What are you talking about? It is widely considered one of their best, if people don't rank it first they rank it second. It's widely reported by important black metal musicians that it's the greatest black metal album of all time.That's like saying Master Of Puppets is underrated. It fucking isn't, everyone loves it. Why do people always call albums that are heiled as the greatest of all time underrated as if there some overlooked diamond in the ruff?
Hammerheart and Twilight are more different than you think. Hammerheart has lots of super heavy riffs going in and it has a much thicker atmosphere. Twilight is softer, more melodic and more progressive. It has more cleans, acoustic guitars, etc. It's also very spiritual and metaphysical sounding, where Hammerheart is straightforward viking metal.
Also Twilight has thicker and much better production, better execution in general. They’re equally my favourite Bathory albums, but the Hyborean - Conan the Barbarian - Thorgal- 70’s & 80’s Fantasy mood of Twilight just gives it the winning edge for me.
Exactly. Totg is better but I love shores in flames guitar lead it is the most epic lead ever. His guitar weeps like a baby and then conquers the world!
Not really, the upspeak used in the narration is so annoying ? Learn how to speak ? The question mark after every bloody sentence in the narration is so annoying ? Geez ? Give it a rest ? You see how annoying it is ?
Hammerheart is straight forward with the heavy riffs, rough singing, references to norse mythology, and has a more thicker atmosphere or ambience while Twilight of the Gods is more softer, bittersweet as if you're riding into battle for the last time, and introduces acoustic guitars which I love. Both albums are amazing in my opinion especially Hammerheart which is how I got introduced to black metal.
I enjoyed the video. As a long time Bathory fan I appreciate it. I first heard Requiem in '95 when I was 15 years old. Quorthon was doing interviews and promoting for Octagon (the Metal Maniacs interview is what sold me), so I took a chance and ordered Requiem and loved it. It blew me away. Within 6 months I had all of their albums, some shirts, finding any info about Quorthon/Bathory, and spreading the word about them to any who would listen. Been my favorite band since, and was devastated when he died. Also, for their 20th anniversay (March 2003) I had the Bathory logo tattooed across my back. I could go on, but I'll stop.
I had that SAME ISSUE of METAL MANIACS and read that Interview your talking about!! The INTERVIEWER was a Complete ASS TO HIM!! kept giving him crap about how "Cheap" the recordings sounded.....what a FOOL!!!
Hammerheart (the song) is based off of the planet's suite "Jupiter" by Holtz, the same suite that has the movement "Mars" that inspired both Geezer and Tony to create the riff for the song "Black Sabbath", the first metal song!
1 sign of the black mark. 2 bathory 3 blood fire death. 4 Norland 1. . 5 blood on ice 6 destroyer 7 Norland 2. 8 twlight 9 hammerheart 10 the two thrashers take your pick
THE TRUE: 1- BLOOD FIRE DEATH 2- THE RETURN...... 3- UNDER THE SIGN OF THE BLACK MARK 4- BATHORY 5- HAMMERHEART 6- TWILIGHT OF THE GODS 7- BLOOD ON ICE 8- REQUIEM 9- OCTAGON
King Quorthon is uniqe...we never have another like him..all albums from Bathory is awesome and masterpiece..but Hammerheart will be forever No.1..with this album he created Viking Metal for future bands...So...BIG RESPECT FOR YOU...OUR KING..LIVE FOREVER...IN VALHALLA...
Bathory finally clicked with me when i randomly listened to Hammerheart, and now im enjoying the earlier stuff a lot more now. Looking forward to listening to his later stuff. Enjoyed this video - thanks
The Return is still my favourite Bathory album, and I honestly consider that one the first true black metal record. It has all the good shit that would show up on Under The Sign with better songs. Totally brutal and bleak.
i just found your awesome channel and been hooked for hours ! i cant say i'm agree with everything you say but your videos are so fucking cool ! please make a retrospective for Dark Funeral ! that would be awesome.Thanks.
I remember my buddy and I going to the import record store back in the 80’s. He bought a copy of the first Bathory album. A rare album nowadays. He had the first issue run. Think there was only a few hundred made. He turned Christian about 10 years ago and sold the album for like 300$. I wonder what it’s worth today. Had I known I would have bought it myself. Epic times with that album.
I definately appreciate bands doing experiments with their albums. Its hard for us fans to get into some of them considering our taste at the time of what we expect but when bands do a broad spectrum of metal albums its good to eventually go back to depending on what you want to listen to at the time
Amazing, thank you for sharing. I’ve only grown to love Quorthorn more because of this. Learned a lot too! I gotta say, I like his thrash too haha. Cheers. You know what Requiem sounds like, A LOT, is Deicide. I think they took some inspiration. The really bass and drum heavy recording.
Bathory actually never had a drummer or a bass player, Kothaar, Vvornth and all other credited musicians were all walk-ons, Quorthon did it all by himself. All the albums after Blood Fire Death are clearly done with a drum machine (this is especially detectable on Hammerheart, where the drum rolls in the individual tracks always reapeat themselves in exactly the same way), while I think in the first 4 albums he played drums himself.
@@MMasterDE I know quorthon did everything. But he had people like Jonas Akerland(excuse the terrible spelling.) Who was his drummer. Plus I know there are other members. But its just a idea.
Nordland was originally one album, which was split into two when Quorthon realised that the resulting album would be over two hours long, there were no plans for Nordland III and IV as both albums were release in a few months (plus no version of Nordland I had The Winds of Mayhem Outro) “Yeah, it was a big thing and it was great fun to do it, and it wasn’t till we came down to the studio that we realized we have material for more than two hours. So we had to split it up.” He goes on to say that he would rather do something that’s not Nordland next: “now we have the freedom to do basically what we want even though seventy percent of our audience wants us to do if not “Nordland III” so at least something in a similar vein. But we have to mind the rest of our audience as well. They’re the ones who like to have razorblades up their ass and drink goat’s blood and cut their arms and things like that, and I get very bored doing the same stuff for twelve months in a row. So I’d very, very much like to go back and do something that’s more close to the first three albums than the last two. ” Source: Headbanging Lumberjacks: An Interview With Bathory's Quorthon - DRUNK IN A GRAVEYARD
jonas akerlund (the film director) Used to be their Drummer, however, if I recall right, that was before the first album. also, as ive heard, after the release of "the return" quorthon got witchhunter of sodom for tour rehearsals but they didnt get along for longer than like 2 weeks or so.... too sad.
@@DownFallNetWork Jonas is a joke in the true scene. He barely knew Quorthon. Worked on like 2 studio tracks and moved on to pop music. Most could not stand him. Many protested against him making "that" movie. Varg especially refused to help him and spoke out to stop it. Jonas spitefully rewrote that Varg character for his movie to be the most unlike the real.person. It states in the beginning of the movie "based on truth and lies". Where it is should say "predominantly lies". Very little truth in that movie. Things which can easily be taken from main facts from the book. He just Hollywooded it all up. Proving that Jonas was not the one that should have made that movie. Truly hope someone qualified will step up and tell the true the way it should be. Someone that is able to capture the essence to show what it was really all about and how it truly was.
You'll think this is strange, but, my favorite is Twilight of the Gods! The first one I heard was The Return, which, as a little boy, it scared the shit out of me. :D
I've been listening to Metal since NWOBHM and the pigeonholing (or file-) thinking didn't exist then and is still totally superfluous today. Much more important is what you feel about the music. For example, when I listen to the album 'Under The Sign...' I feel darkness, trepidation, but also great joy and reassurance. The category (in today's thinking) doesn't matter at all.
@@DownFallNetWork From Quorthon himself : Talking about Sign Of The Black Mark Quorthon: Well, it was a step in one direction or another, but, I mean, it was about that time when I started to listen to basically only classical music, so I learned how to arrange music, not just, you know, playing 365 beats per minute for three and a half minutes the entire album through. Uhm, it was a different song: we copied the rhythms thing, I mean, the rhythm beat from Manowar, cause the drummer who was at the band at the time was a big Manowar fan, and he introduced that way of playing for me, you know, that (sings) “doo-doo-dah-duh”, 3/6th , or whatever it’s called. So, it was different, you know, compared to the stuff we’ve done before, but I mean, we had slower-arranged songs even on the first album, “Raise the Dead”, and stuff. Quorthon: Everything, everything, just fucking everything. It’s lousiest piece of shit metal album that ever been recorded and released. I just hate it, I mean, maybe it’s an emotional thing, but I don’t know where that’d come from, but it’s just crap! I mean, listen to my guitars, listen to the guy who is playing the drums, Per at the time, listen to my vocals, for Christ sake-it’s just silly! I mean, even the first album has a lot more sincere about it, than the third one. It was, like, you know, we had said “hello” with the first one, then with the second one, we were, like, the cocksuckers of Satan, and with the third one, all of a sudden, it was: “Wow, we’re a band, we’re actually making albums!” It didn’t sorta like, the coin didn’t go down the slot until about the third time, or the third album, and by that time we sorta like, you remember the way it was in the mid 80s, Motley Crue and W.A.S.P., and everything, you were supposed to drink pink champagne fuck all the old ladies in the ladies room, and all of that stuff, it was the party days. So we lost track; personally I think, nothing of that album is worthwhile. Quorthon: Chris came up to Stockholm early ’86: the reason was, we have been offered by Combat Records to join a tour across United States together with Destruction, Possessed, and Celtic Frost, during the summer of 86, or something like that, and all of a sudden, I realized that the guy who was playing drums in Bathory at the time, I wasn’t sure he was gonna be in it or not: also he did the army, which is in Sweden voluntary, but he was in the army. And the guy who was playing the bass was out of the picture even a year before that: I was playing the bass on the last album. So I said: “I need a good drummer, I bass player I can always find,” so I got in touch with the drummer from Artillery, a Danish band, you ever heard of …? Quorthon: Uh, when we started in February of 1983, it was me playing guitar; I wasn’t even singing in those days, I mean, we had lyrics to the songs, but we didn’t have any microphones, or, you know, vocal PA systems, so that we could sing in our rehearsal place. We had one guitar amplifier, one bass amplifier, one bass, a shitty drum kit, and a guitar-and that was it. It was me, and two guys -a drummer and a bass player--the bass players name was Fredrick, and the drummer’s name was Jonas, and then me, and we stayed together for just about exactly one year. I gave the guys the boot the week after we had recorded the compilation “Scandinavian Metal Attack” tracks, cause they wanted us to go, you know, more Judas Priest and Iron Maiden type of stuff, and I said: “No, we have this sound now. I mean, this is our thing. No one in Stockholm sounds like that”--which only proves how narrow our horizon was. You know, “nobody in Stockholm sounds like this.” And an the same time, all of those…{…several seconds of tape are lost due to auto reverse-ed.… } …There has been altogether 3 or 4 drummers, depending on what you mean by the drummer of the band: he might have been, you know, in the band during the rehearsal time...I know for a fact that since 1986 there’s only two people ever involved in Bathory for the past 11 years-two people only, and So I do think there was a real drummer playing in the first 3-4 records. Strange because he actually hated playing Black Metal, I guess.
you got how they did the cover for under the sign completely wrong. They actually had a friend who worked in the Swedish Royal Ballet who had this crazy mountain scene as one of their props for one of their productions - so they actually went in with their body builder friend and took a picture with him on the prop. if you want contact me for Quorthorn's biography which gives so many insights into his early years and album production although some of it comes across as horse shit
I’m 53 tears old and got into black/death/speed/thrash etc in the early to mid 80”s. Celtic Frost May not be classified as black metal (Morbid Tales was a fucking classic) but Mercyful Fate and Venom were. You have to remember that there was nothing to compare it to. This was the START of it all. When I was a teen and started listening to this I was amazed because I never heard anything like this. Yes- I started with Kiss (saw them in 1979 when I was 8 years old at Madison square garden) and Iron Maiden, oozy, dio, Motley Crue, Ratt etc but immediately fell in love with this extreme music. You really had to live through that time period to know and feel how it really was when this style of music emerged. The 80,s WAS HANDS DOWN THE BEST ERA TO LISTEN to ALL METAL. You are comparing bathory to the recent black metal bands and saying that they don’t sound black metal but i don’t know why you are comparing them to today’s black metal when absolutely NONE of these newer bands were around then. Unless you are a mind reader and around in the 80”s and said “these bands don’t sound like black metal because in the mid 90”s or whenever in the future REAL black metal is coming that will be darker, faster, more raw, etc than these 80’s, then you can’t say that they are not black metal. They definitely WERE black metal.
Kothaar and Vvornth are two names given to any session player that helped him. The session bass player had the name Kothaar and the drummer was called Vvornth. It's just to say "hey, someone actually played bass and drums"
@@DownFallNetWork I am pretty sure that he actually had people playing for him. They were people not even involved with black metal that wanted nothing to do with it, just Quorthon's friends. At least that's how it's said pretty much everywhere.
@@DownFallNetWork Dont know how much drum machines he used,Theres a inteview with Börje Forsberg on the tube where hes saying Quorthon played the drums himself so yea Bathory was a one man band.
Totally agree about the timeline thing, first wave black metal was basically just Bathory, at best you could argue Mayhem was involved in the first wave, possibly demo era Thorns, but Bathory had established it at that point. Quarthon just went another direction when Mayhem, Thorns, and what followed came around.
Awesome retrospective, but there is one thing to note. Quorthon lied when he said he wasn't a fan of, or influenced by Venom. He later sort of confessed to this in an interview right before the release of Hammerheart, saying that he was influenced by "a certain Newcastle band". It really shows, Born For Burning is a straight up rip off of Venom's Don't Burn the Witch, for exanple.
You're telling me that a man who wrote a song "In Conspiracy With Satan" might have been lying when he said he was never influenced by Venom (who wrote "In League With Satan")? Never!
@Radle Grebdron There was a lot out there. People i knew said it. Last names on buisness licences and such matched up. Boss was like 22 years older. He called him son in public often. All just added up no matter how he tried to twist things for his mystique, which really died off a lot beyond the 80s for most. Even so, just going back 15 years even to 04 after Quorthon died. There were a lot of interviews with Bjorn "Boss" Forsberg, Quorthons father. Full reveal of his real name, sister and side projects Etc were out. Some just seem to get it all later then others i guess...
Yes, Gustav Holst is a classical composer who made a music piece for every planet in our solar system. The music from Hammerheart is a part of Jupiter.
Thank you thank you thank you.... Under the Sign of the Black Mark was the first black metal album. Full Stop. People can say all they want but it comes down to WHAT DO YOU HEAR. That album is not only the greatest BM of all time but one of the greatest of all time period. Darkthrones Blaze in the Northern Sky is the next successor. JUST LISTEN.
DownFall NetWork Darkthrone for example has a lot of influence from Celtic Frost and Hellhammer, just listen To their albuns, start with a Blaze in the northern sky... The list of bands from the 2nd wave that covered Celtic Frost and Hellhammer songs is also huge..
I beg to differ. The main influence on the second wave is unequivocally Mayhem. They have spawned myriads of followers, gave black metal the unique ethos and elitism. Before Dead and all the lovely, infamous events, it was just first wave - proto black, very few called it black metal back then. The main influence on the identity of the original second wave bands like Darkthrone, Emperor or Immortal was actually Euronymous and his douchebag elitist rules, especially kill all death metal which turned Norwegian death metal bands named above into black metal. Musically, also Burzum and Thorns played a big influence on the second wave of black metal.
How’s that coming along? As Venom influenced Bathory, then Slayer, doing theirs first would help the continuity flow better...especially for younger fans looking into the history.
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Varg mentioned many times that War was a tribute to Bathory.
Trey Charles such a massive tribute somehow it gave him writers block and drove him to rip off that riff am I right?
D R not even Jewish bud
@@thisisnotmyrealname6990 bruh it was tribute and cover at the same time
@@thisisnotmyrealname6990 Got problems with jews? 🤔
@@Mitchery no
The Return is their most underrated album. That one is up there as one of their best for sure
What are you talking about? It is widely considered one of their best, if people don't rank it first they rank it second. It's widely reported by important black metal musicians that it's the greatest black metal album of all time.That's like saying Master Of Puppets is underrated. It fucking isn't, everyone loves it. Why do people always call albums that are heiled as the greatest of all time underrated as if there some overlooked diamond in the ruff?
Blood Fire Death and The Return..... are the two best, then Under The Sign.......
@@vladimirbathory1125 ikr, people talk shit about anything. should never read yt comments
Yes I agree. It’s the darkest one. Pure black metal. Atmosphere is terrifying and it works
my favorite is Blood Fire Death
Quorthon, have a nice time in Valhalla. Odin is proud of you!
Hammerheart and Twilight are more different than you think. Hammerheart has lots of super heavy riffs going in and it has a much thicker atmosphere. Twilight is softer, more melodic and more progressive. It has more cleans, acoustic guitars, etc. It's also very spiritual and metaphysical sounding, where Hammerheart is straightforward viking metal.
true
Yeah and Twilight is better
@@DownFallNetWork Personally I hate the term Viking metal. Most us Pagans prefer Pagan Metal just to be more accurate.
Also Twilight has thicker and much better production, better execution in general. They’re equally my favourite Bathory albums, but the Hyborean - Conan the Barbarian - Thorgal- 70’s & 80’s Fantasy mood of Twilight just gives it the winning edge for me.
Exactly. Totg is better but I love shores in flames guitar lead it is the most epic lead ever. His guitar weeps like a baby and then conquers the world!
The Lake is also my favorite song from Blood on Ice. It's amazing. One of my favorite songs ever.
Mine is the woodwoman
Mines nordland
My favorite as well. It is so epic.
A friend and I made a music video for The Lake for one of his college courses
no band's sound evolved more than Bathory...RIP Quorthon, a true genius and legend!
The videos on this channel are so underrated
Not really, the upspeak used in the narration is so annoying ? Learn how to speak ? The question mark after every bloody sentence in the narration is so annoying ? Geez ? Give it a rest ? You see how annoying it is ?
Call from the Grave is the first Bathory song I ever heard
GTA? O.o
My first introduction to Bathory was the track 'Equimanthorn' which appeared on the soundtrack for the movie 'Gummo'.
First one I heard was 13 Candles
First song I heard from them, that was Blood Fire Death.
Yes, DJ Max Cavalera introduced us 😅@@sergiotuberquia9484
When I first listened to Bathory's "Blood Fire Death" I was immediately brought into the sound. Love every minute of it.
Amazing band, everybody has to accept that Quorthon makes several masterpieces of music. He nailed that and creates a revolutionary kind of music.
Hammerheart is straight forward with the heavy riffs, rough singing, references to norse mythology, and has a more thicker atmosphere or ambience while Twilight of the Gods is more softer, bittersweet as if you're riding into battle for the last time, and introduces acoustic guitars which I love. Both albums are amazing in my opinion especially Hammerheart which is how I got introduced to black metal.
The best black metal band ever
I enjoyed the video. As a long time Bathory fan I appreciate it. I first heard Requiem in '95 when I was 15 years old. Quorthon was doing interviews and promoting for Octagon (the Metal Maniacs interview is what sold me), so I took a chance and ordered Requiem and loved it. It blew me away. Within 6 months I had all of their albums, some shirts, finding any info about Quorthon/Bathory, and spreading the word about them to any who would listen. Been my favorite band since, and was devastated when he died. Also, for their 20th anniversay (March 2003) I had the Bathory logo tattooed across my back. I could go on, but I'll stop.
thanks man, make sure to check out more of our episodes
I had that SAME ISSUE of METAL MANIACS and read that Interview your talking about!! The INTERVIEWER was a Complete ASS TO HIM!! kept giving him crap about how "Cheap" the recordings sounded.....what a FOOL!!!
Was Quorthon racist?
@@kevinscott59 Nope, he wasn't, but people like Varg is...
@@Mitchery
Thank you.
I'm black and I've been listening to Bathory for some years.
I know about Varg's sociopathic ass.
The first Bathory song I heard was Possessed.
That was in 86/87.
Been a fan ever since.
Nice video man.
How did I just discover this channel. You sir is a fucking legend
when I was real young, and would see a bathory album, I thought it said bathord.
what a great story bro
BATLORD
He seemed cool to his fans. Bathory my fave black metal
Bathory has 3 straight black metal banging albums its hard to choose the best one.Hammerhart and Twilight of the gods are masterpeices.
I’m with you enter the eternal fire was my first i listened to by them and it is still my favorite song
Wow, such a great retrospective! Love it, thanks for sharing
Great video, may Quorthons soul rest in peace
I can imagine cartman singing Viking metal now
Hammerheart (the song) is based off of the planet's suite "Jupiter" by Holtz, the same suite that has the movement "Mars" that inspired both Geezer and Tony to create the riff for the song "Black Sabbath", the first metal song!
Good insight
There's something primal about Bathory that takes it to the top.
1 sign of the black mark. 2 bathory 3 blood fire death. 4 Norland 1. . 5 blood on ice 6 destroyer 7 Norland 2. 8 twlight 9 hammerheart 10 the two thrashers take your pick
mate, the spacing is horrible...
The return.. 😳
THE TRUE:
1- BLOOD FIRE DEATH
2- THE RETURN......
3- UNDER THE SIGN OF THE BLACK MARK
4- BATHORY
5- HAMMERHEART
6- TWILIGHT OF THE GODS
7- BLOOD ON ICE
8- REQUIEM
9- OCTAGON
@@thomasedwardlawrence9775 Im gonna care bout that for 5 secs.....I'm done
@@holysmoke8439 ...
Blood fire death is the best BM song. Just on top
King Quorthon is uniqe...we never have another like him..all albums from Bathory is awesome and masterpiece..but Hammerheart will be forever No.1..with this album he created Viking Metal for future bands...So...BIG RESPECT FOR YOU...OUR KING..LIVE FOREVER...IN VALHALLA...
your videos are so fucking great you deserve more subs
“not neccessarily a good musician”
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My favorite Black Metal band
Great video man. Really intriguing to watch.
Bathory finally clicked with me when i randomly listened to Hammerheart, and now im enjoying the earlier stuff a lot more now. Looking forward to listening to his later stuff. Enjoyed this video - thanks
The Return is still my favourite Bathory album, and I honestly consider that one the first true black metal record. It has all the good shit that would show up on Under The Sign with better songs. Totally brutal and bleak.
Blood on Ice is nice. I have been listening the past weeks.
i just found your awesome channel and been hooked for hours ! i cant say i'm agree with everything you say but your videos are so fucking cool ! please make a retrospective for Dark Funeral ! that would be awesome.Thanks.
The first 3 Bathory albums are the best metal albums that can ever exist.
Bullshit
I remember my buddy and I going to the import record store back in the 80’s. He bought a copy of the first Bathory album. A rare album nowadays. He had the first issue run. Think there was only a few hundred made. He turned Christian about 10 years ago and sold the album for like 300$. I wonder what it’s worth today. Had I known I would have bought it myself. Epic times with that album.
1700 to 2000
The rite of darness on the return i think is erie as hell.Love that track.Ecspecially when the demon voice comes in in the middle..
for all those who died, is like the call from the grave version of blood fire death imo
There might be better albums, but Blood, Fire, Death was my first Bathory album, and will always have the top spot in my heart
I definately appreciate bands doing experiments with their albums. Its hard for us fans to get into some of them considering our taste at the time of what we expect but when bands do a broad spectrum of metal albums its good to eventually go back to depending on what you want to listen to at the time
What? 33 something is aweosme! I love that one. I honestly love Octagon. It's one of my least favorite Bathory albums, but I love all of them.
The drummer directed that black metal parody movie Lords of Chaos
I love the rite of darkness but everyone his opinion ^^
Amazing, thank you for sharing. I’ve only grown to love Quorthorn more because of this. Learned a lot too! I gotta say, I like his thrash too haha. Cheers.
You know what Requiem sounds like, A LOT, is Deicide. I think they took some inspiration. The really bass and drum heavy recording.
I remember buying the very first Bathory album back in 84. Totally badass.
The song Hammerheart is based on the main motif of Gustav Holst's Jupiter the Bringer of Jollity
Burzum wasn't "their". Burzum is/was one person.
Bathory actually never had a drummer or a bass player, Kothaar, Vvornth and all other credited musicians were all walk-ons, Quorthon did it all by himself. All the albums after Blood Fire Death are clearly done with a drum machine (this is especially detectable on Hammerheart, where the drum rolls in the individual tracks always reapeat themselves in exactly the same way), while I think in the first 4 albums he played drums himself.
Blood Fire Death is drum machine also... the first 3 were real drums
under the sign of the black mark has a very static drum machine. no human plays like that@@realdeathmetallives9756
Awesome retrospectives. Subbed. Surprised this channel isn't bigger.
I wonder if there's unfinished demos of Nordland III out there somewhere
It could be possible. Unless anyone who knew quorthon, his dad, or even the band members. Might have the recordings
@@liamearly4883 Band members? :D
@@MMasterDE I know quorthon did everything. But he had people like Jonas Akerland(excuse the terrible spelling.) Who was his drummer. Plus I know there are other members. But its just a idea.
@@liamearly4883 It's actually more likely his dad, or sister would have something like that.
Nordland was originally one album, which was split into two when Quorthon realised that the resulting album would be over two hours long, there were no plans for Nordland III and IV as both albums were release in a few months (plus no version of Nordland I had The Winds of Mayhem Outro)
“Yeah, it was a big thing and it was great fun to do it, and it wasn’t till we came down to the studio that we realized we have material for more than two hours. So we had to split it up.”
He goes on to say that he would rather do something that’s not Nordland next:
“now we have the freedom to do basically what we want even though seventy percent of our audience wants us to do if not “Nordland III” so at least something in a similar vein. But we have to mind the rest of our audience as well. They’re the ones who like to have razorblades up their ass and drink goat’s blood and cut their arms and things like that, and I get very bored doing the same stuff for twelve months in a row. So I’d very, very much like to go back and do something that’s more close to the first three albums than the last two. ”
Source:
Headbanging Lumberjacks: An Interview With Bathory's Quorthon - DRUNK IN A GRAVEYARD
Amazing video! I stopped doing my homework just to watch it
always fail your classes kiddies :)
Superb review! I agree with pretty much everything you've said here. Well done! Thank you. Long Live Bathory! \M/
The funny thing is: before I watched this video, I came to the same conclusion on golden walls of heaven that you did, it sounds like hell awaits.
Bathory forever ❤️
jonas akerlund (the film director) Used to be their Drummer, however, if I recall right, that was before the first album. also, as ive heard, after the release of "the return" quorthon got witchhunter of sodom for tour rehearsals but they didnt get along for longer than like 2 weeks or so.... too sad.
oliver bitchfynder Jonas is making that movie adaptation of that one book about mayhem right?
DownFall indeed... (just googled it)
@@DownFallNetWork Jonas is a joke in the true scene. He barely knew Quorthon. Worked on like 2 studio tracks and moved on to pop music. Most could not stand him.
Many protested against him making "that" movie. Varg especially refused to help him and spoke out to stop it. Jonas spitefully rewrote that Varg character for his movie to be the most unlike the real.person.
It states in the beginning of the movie "based on truth and lies". Where it is should say "predominantly lies". Very little truth in that movie. Things which can easily be taken from main facts from the book. He just Hollywooded it all up. Proving that Jonas was not the one that should have made that movie.
Truly hope someone qualified will step up and tell the true the way it should be. Someone that is able to capture the essence to show what it was really all about and how it truly was.
@@hmpz36911 maybe it was that norway / swedish feud haha
Sodom drummer left because of chernobyl
Love the images of his visit to Lisbon 😁 Those were the days!
You'll think this is strange, but, my favorite is Twilight of the Gods! The first one I heard was The Return, which, as a little boy, it scared the shit out of me. :D
Both are masterpieces
Ring of Gold is one of the most beautiful songs I’ve ever listened to
How can this guy only have almost 2k subs? He needs way more.
nah theuy suck
Checkout my bathory reverse
Blood on Ice is about the most epic thing every recorded. . .
Viking Era: Hammerheart >>>Nordland (I & II) >>>Blood On Ice >>>> Twilight of the Gods
The Loner the first 3 songs on Twilight are classics wdym
@@theloner6063 🤣🤣🤣
Without Venom, no Bathory
Ok.
I've been listening to Metal since NWOBHM and the pigeonholing (or file-) thinking didn't exist then and is still totally superfluous today. Much more important is what you feel about the music. For example, when I listen to the album 'Under The Sign...' I feel darkness, trepidation, but also great joy and reassurance. The category (in today's thinking) doesn't matter at all.
He did have people playing instruments on the first 4 records, from what I seen in a interview. Saw the musicians in a interview.
those were plants
@@DownFallNetWork From Quorthon himself : Talking about Sign Of The Black Mark
Quorthon: Well, it was a step in one direction or another, but, I mean, it was about that time when I started to listen to basically only classical music, so I learned how to arrange music, not just, you know, playing 365 beats per minute for three and a half minutes the entire album through. Uhm, it was a different song: we copied the rhythms thing, I mean, the rhythm beat from Manowar, cause the drummer who was at the band at the time was a big Manowar fan, and he introduced that way of playing for me, you know, that (sings) “doo-doo-dah-duh”, 3/6th , or whatever it’s called. So, it was different, you know, compared to the stuff we’ve done before, but I mean, we had slower-arranged songs even on the first album, “Raise the Dead”, and stuff.
Quorthon: Everything, everything, just fucking everything. It’s lousiest piece of shit metal album that ever been recorded and released. I just hate it, I mean, maybe it’s an emotional thing, but I don’t know where that’d come from, but it’s just crap! I mean, listen to my guitars, listen to the guy who is playing the drums, Per at the time, listen to my vocals, for Christ sake-it’s just silly! I mean, even the first album has a lot more sincere about it, than the third one. It was, like, you know, we had said “hello” with the first one, then with the second one, we were, like, the cocksuckers of Satan, and with the third one, all of a sudden, it was: “Wow, we’re a band, we’re actually making albums!” It didn’t sorta like, the coin didn’t go down the slot until about the third time, or the third album, and by that time we sorta like, you remember the way it was in the mid 80s, Motley Crue and W.A.S.P., and everything, you were supposed to drink pink champagne fuck all the old ladies in the ladies room, and all of that stuff, it was the party days. So we lost track; personally I think, nothing of that album is worthwhile.
Quorthon: Chris came up to Stockholm early ’86: the reason was, we have
been offered by Combat Records to join a tour across United States
together with Destruction, Possessed, and Celtic Frost, during the
summer of 86, or something like that, and all of a sudden, I realized
that the guy who was playing drums in Bathory at the time, I wasn’t sure
he was gonna be in it or not: also he did the army, which is in Sweden
voluntary, but he was in the army. And the guy who was playing the bass
was out of the picture even a year before that: I was playing the bass
on the last album. So I said: “I need a good drummer, I bass player I
can always find,” so I got in touch with the drummer from Artillery, a
Danish band, you ever heard of …?
Quorthon: Uh, when we started in February of 1983, it was me playing
guitar; I wasn’t even singing in those days, I mean, we had lyrics to
the songs, but we didn’t have any microphones, or, you know, vocal PA
systems, so that we could sing in our rehearsal place. We had one guitar
amplifier, one bass amplifier, one bass, a shitty drum kit, and a
guitar-and that was it. It was me, and two guys -a drummer and a bass
player--the bass players name was Fredrick, and the drummer’s name was
Jonas, and then me, and we stayed together for just about exactly one
year. I gave the guys the boot the week after we had recorded the
compilation “Scandinavian Metal Attack” tracks, cause they wanted us to
go, you know, more Judas Priest and Iron Maiden type of stuff, and I
said: “No, we have this sound now. I mean, this is our thing. No one in
Stockholm sounds like that”--which only proves how narrow our horizon
was. You know, “nobody in Stockholm sounds like this.” And an the same
time, all of those…{…several seconds of tape are lost due to auto
reverse-ed.… } …There has been altogether 3 or 4 drummers, depending on
what you mean by the drummer of the band: he might have been, you know,
in the band during the rehearsal time...I know for a fact that since
1986 there’s only two people ever involved in Bathory for the past 11
years-two people only, and
So I do think there was a real drummer playing in the first 3-4 records. Strange because he actually hated playing Black Metal, I guess.
Death and ressurection of å northern son is my fav too! 🤗
Nothing like lighting some scented candles and drawing up a nice bathory
You put a lot of work in it, respekt
I love the group
you got how they did the cover for under the sign completely wrong. They actually had a friend who worked in the Swedish Royal Ballet who had this crazy mountain scene as one of their props for one of their productions - so they actually went in with their body builder friend and took a picture with him on the prop. if you want contact me for Quorthorn's biography which gives so many insights into his early years and album production although some of it comes across as horse shit
thanks for the info, i cant take anything that guy says as seriously, he was either a compulsive liar or a total troll
Great video, I agree with everything except for "nordland 2 is better than 1"
'Satanic Rites' of Hellhammer sounded more like let's say Darkthrone than the debut of Bathory, which is quit a Venom copy.
I’m 53 tears old and got into black/death/speed/thrash etc in the early to mid 80”s. Celtic Frost May not be classified as black metal (Morbid Tales was a fucking classic) but Mercyful Fate and Venom were. You have to remember that there was nothing to compare it to. This was the START of it all. When I was a teen and started listening to this I was amazed because I never heard anything like this. Yes- I started with Kiss (saw them in 1979 when I was 8 years old at Madison square garden) and Iron Maiden, oozy, dio, Motley Crue, Ratt etc but immediately fell in love with this extreme music. You really had to live through that time period to know and feel how it really was when this style of music emerged. The 80,s WAS HANDS DOWN THE BEST ERA TO LISTEN to ALL METAL. You are comparing bathory to the recent black metal bands and saying that they don’t sound black metal but i don’t know why you are comparing them to today’s black metal when absolutely NONE of these newer bands were around then. Unless you are a mind reader and around in the 80”s and said “these bands don’t sound like black metal because in the mid 90”s or whenever in the future REAL black metal is coming that will be darker, faster, more raw, etc than these 80’s, then you can’t say that they are not black metal. They definitely WERE black metal.
I still listen to all of the bands you listed here, no joke. Until a few years ago I wouldn't have known most of them.
Bathory rules above all no doubt about it
33 something. Hell yeah.
After watching this, all I hear is Eric Cartman singing Quorthon's tunes.
Screw you guys, I'm going home.
Oh come on man! Destroyer of Worlds is SO GOOD!!
Kothaar and Vvornth are two names given to any session player that helped him. The session bass player had the name Kothaar and the drummer was called Vvornth. It's just to say "hey, someone actually played bass and drums"
Ashkandi oooooor quorthon played it all himself and had a drum machine
@@DownFallNetWork I am pretty sure that he actually had people playing for him. They were people not even involved with black metal that wanted nothing to do with it, just Quorthon's friends. At least that's how it's said pretty much everywhere.
@@DownFallNetWork Dont know how much drum machines he used,Theres a inteview with Börje Forsberg on the tube where hes saying Quorthon played the drums himself so yea Bathory was a one man band.
Celtic Frost, Venom, Mercyful Fate and Hellhammer, early Running Wild
Absolutely .... branded and exiled ...ahhhhhhggggghhhhhhh
Totally agree about the timeline thing, first wave black metal was basically just Bathory, at best you could argue Mayhem was involved in the first wave, possibly demo era Thorns, but Bathory had established it at that point. Quarthon just went another direction when Mayhem, Thorns, and what followed came around.
Maybe consider covering Electric Wizard, my favorites!!!!!!
fantastic doccie none of the less
thanks you
Awesome retrospective, but there is one thing to note. Quorthon lied when he said he wasn't a fan of, or influenced by Venom. He later sort of confessed to this in an interview right before the release of Hammerheart, saying that he was influenced by "a certain Newcastle band".
It really shows, Born For Burning is a straight up rip off of Venom's Don't Burn the Witch, for exanple.
You're telling me that a man who wrote a song "In Conspiracy With Satan" might have been lying when he said he was never influenced by Venom (who wrote "In League With Satan")? Never!
just thanks a lot dude !!!!!
@Radle Grebdron I knew Boss was his father for twenty years
@Radle Grebdron I don't remember, it was 20 years ago lol
@Radle Grebdron There was a lot out there. People i knew said it. Last names on buisness licences and such matched up. Boss was like 22 years older. He called him son in public often. All just added up no matter how he tried to twist things for his mystique, which really died off a lot beyond the 80s for most.
Even so, just going back 15 years even to 04 after Quorthon died. There were a lot of interviews with Bjorn "Boss" Forsberg, Quorthons father. Full reveal of his real name, sister and side projects Etc were out.
Some just seem to get it all later then others i guess...
33 something is sick. The chorus is wild and disgusting. Love it.
Quarthon looks like he's in the band Cinderella!!! Tom Keifer...is that you??? LMFAO!!
"Hammerheart" is clearly Jupiter from Holst's planet suite and not "some folk type song".
And Jupiter = Thor. Interesting.
Yes, Gustav Holst is a classical composer who made a music piece for every planet in our solar system. The music from Hammerheart is a part of Jupiter.
The return
Weird cus In Conspiracy With Satan is one of my favs
Blood Fire Death... 10/10 every song is a classic Outstanding Shit 💥
Thank you thank you thank you.... Under the Sign of the Black Mark was the first black metal album. Full Stop. People can say all they want but it comes down to WHAT DO YOU HEAR. That album is not only the greatest BM of all time but one of the greatest of all time period.
Darkthrones Blaze in the Northern Sky is the next successor. JUST LISTEN.
The Return.....
Quorthon predicted Mayhem
When is Venom and Celtic frost coming?
War was a tribute according to Varg
Re: Nordland, I think it's about iced and mountainous snowdrifts.
For me Bathory and Celtic Frost are the originators and main influence for the entire 2nd wave of Black Metal
Everyone wacks their kack to Celtic Frost and Hellhammer being the influence to black metal but i don't hear it.
DownFall NetWork Darkthrone for example has a lot of influence from Celtic Frost and Hellhammer, just listen To their albuns, start with a Blaze in the northern sky... The list of bands from the 2nd wave that covered Celtic Frost and Hellhammer songs is also huge..
Alexander Teixeira Moreira darkthone is a Celtic cover band
U got your waves mixed up
I beg to differ. The main influence on the second wave is unequivocally Mayhem. They have spawned myriads of followers, gave black metal the unique ethos and elitism. Before Dead and all the lovely, infamous events, it was just first wave - proto black, very few called it black metal back then. The main influence on the identity of the original second wave bands like Darkthrone, Emperor or Immortal was actually Euronymous and his douchebag elitist rules, especially kill all death metal which turned Norwegian death metal bands named above into black metal. Musically, also Burzum and Thorns played a big influence on the second wave of black metal.
Burzum is a one-man project and Varg didn't rip off anything, "War" is his homage to Bathory.
Most of the things that go wrong in my life I blame on Euronymous
The concept of Blood on ice is Odin is training some other god the champion of the gods!
Equimanthooooorn Equimanthoooorn Equimanthooooorn
Dont Like Rite of Darkness? Crazy i think that is like the best song
you should still do a video on venom
We will eventually
@@DownFallNetWork Eventually? Should it not be first? One would figure start with the first...
How’s that coming along?
As Venom influenced Bathory, then Slayer, doing theirs first would help the continuity flow better...especially for younger fans looking into the history.
Amazing how guy went from satan to Sabaton