The Heal Support Meta in 2024 | Guild Wars 2
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- Hey Guys,
Here is Part 1 of the breakdown of the Guildwars 2 Trinity focusing on the current 2024 meta of Heal Supports. This isnt an absolute as many of the builds i dont directly highlight are good, or are prefered in some areas. the point is to cover some basics about what this role entails and why it is this way. I hope you enjoyed the video and are looking forward to the next part!
Cheers, and thanks for watching
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On one hand the lack of a trinity was a real cool idea and I’m kind of sad they moved away from something that really made the game unique.
On the other hand I’ve always been a heal/tank main in other games, so being able to roll up on my chrono or tempest and literally tank+heal on one character really does fulfill my ideal class fantasy.
I play a lot of supports too. I think it makes for better encounter design personally. It was okay before but.. battle of lions arch with no boon supports was trash in season 1.
Great content!! expecting the followings parts
They're in work! Glad you enjoyed it.
Great video! Never made it to end game content, but if I were to play again, your guides would be a great place to start.
Thanks bro. You should play again it's a pretty fun game lol
Love the "I've had enough of this bullshit" tone lol. i mean it, I really like it and i think it fits your content very well
Thats just the way I talk, but I'm glad you enjoy it! I'm trying to get better each video so the best is still yet to come!
@@SilhouetteGaming1 you're doing great man, honestly. just keep at it cause you got all it takes to be a big creator
This is great, thank you!
You're welcome! Part 2 will be coming soon covering Boon DPS classes.
Interestingly enough IMO the best current 'one build' versatility is Heal Firebrand which you can then swap the gear to Heal Herald. But with the next large balance patch, Heal Chronomancer (swapping gear if needed to Heal Alac Scourge) might start to take over. I like the omnipresence of build versatility nowadays.
I agree. I have an entire video on firebrand being the best "all around" support build. I have seen more chronos popping up in fractals though, and scourge will always be good in raids.
My gripe with quickness herald is that it is the only boon dps choice if you wanna go solo heal for your group since herald is pretty much the only boon dps that can provide perma prot
Yeah so QDPS herald is OP. High af damage, high af boon radius, has access to all important boons 100% uptime with no boon duration. It's an insane build in group comps.
It actually isn't, renegade does far higher dmg. This is after considering the fact that you drop heart piercer for all for one to grant perma prot. There's even a LI Kalla camp build for it.
The only annoying part is that they keep changing the relevance of the classes and that I can't simply main one healer...
I mean.. you can play heal firebrand.
That's how it works in every mmo though
@@MrCarlWaxIt's really not 👀 I've been maining sage in FFXIV the last few years because I prefer it, but I can pick up and play any of the other 3 healers I've leveled in the last decade and they're still just as viable as they were 10 years ago. This goes for the dps classes I play as well. They shouldn't make so many changes to a class that they make it irrelevant.... Other classes can be made more viable without destroying already viable classes 🤦♀️
But wouldn‘t you have to lvl up and get gear for those other classes in FF14 if you haven‘t played them for a while? The heal stat suffix never changed, it‘s always been mainly harriers since path of fire released, maybe with some minstrels slot in if you also have to tank in raids, but that‘s not necessary for armor, just get a couple rings to do the job for you.
It‘s literally only the build that changes and I don‘t know which profession that was able to be played as healer before isn‘t usable anymore.
Druid had a dead phase when they removed the 10-people heal from it, but now it‘s viable again thanks to providing alacrity and we got even more healing options now with warrior berserker and chronomancer as the most recent examples, that didn‘t have any healing viability at all before.
@@pega7550 FFXIV is vertical progression rather than horizonal progression it's true, so every time a new raid is released or a new expansion comes out you need to upgrade your gear(and level each class to whatever the current max level is). But heal armor is heal armor, DPS armor is DPS armor. I don't need 3 different sets of armor because I play 3 different healers unless I'm using one of the few(usually inferior) class specific armor pieces. My point was that SE doesn't nerf their classes to the point that they're no longer a viable choice and if they do they fix it quickly. The dude I was replying to made it seem like it's normal for companies to make classes unviable for the purpose they were designed for and it's really not. You shouldn't be forced to play a chronomancer when you want to play a druid just because the druid has been nerfed and the chronomancer is the better healer(just examples, I'm not actually certain which is the better healer atm, or if there's even a difference between the 2). The only thing that should affect your choice is play style.
clean video, love the effect at 2:00 it's feel great.
Thanks man, to be honest the editing is the longest part, I'm always trying new things and seeing what looks best. I'll be using a similar style on the next video I'm making right now for Part 2. That particular effect was using a lot of key frames on the images to get them to scale and move around smoothly. Once I get the premium version of the software (Soon!) I should be able to do some pretty cool stuff.
Awesome mate. Coming from WoW it was a bit wierd understanding few things here and there. :p This was great.
I'm editing part 2 now, should be up in the next couple of days. It goes over Boon DPS role which is equally important, so check back or subscribe! GW2 is a great game, you made a good choice swapping from WoW.
im going on my second week of chrono heal quick an alac depending and i just did my second 99 an 100 cm and first time qheal let me tell you it was a sh*t show but we got thru it and i will need to watch some vids on them for sure.
Yeah I will definitely highlight HChrono in fractals later down the road since I'm running mesmer on my Z2H acct
Thank you :)
You're welcome!
You put druid in the "okay most places" category, and talk about boon DPS having to cover for something those healers lack. I'd like to hear your thoughts what it is that druid lacks, considering it has the highest healing output in the game, access to insane amounts of ranged healing, provides 25 Might on its own, full uptime of Fury, Swiftness, Prot and Regen, has access to Aegis on low cooldown (especially if you alternate Spirit and pet), has access to on-demand low-cooldown Stability, has the highest CC output out of all healers in the game, and provides a lot of condition cleanse. Is it about not being able to provide 100% Vigor uptime without sacrificing some healing and condi cleanse for it?
It's about the CA resource management. I love druid but how often do you see them in fractal CMs? Like heal spectre is great but it is extremely hard to play, it is often used in HTCM and stuff, does it make it the best healer? Nah because only like 5 people can play it. This isn't a teir list video, I did include it in the Meta because of all the things you mentioned lol.
@@SilhouetteGaming1 Ah, fair. If you include fractals, I can see how you came to this conclusion. CA management is pretty much never a problem in raids, but I can see how it'd be annoying in strikes in duo heal groups since there's no aura damage and you have nothing to heal there... Yeah, okay, if this is about endgame content in general, I agree with you.
I think the video is overall a pretty decent overview, although I don't like your statement that most bosses aggro on highest toughness - if you exclude Statues in W5 (because it's technically not a boss), then you have exactly 9 bosses that aggro based on toughness and 9 bosses that aggro through special action, proximity, or other. And if you add strikes, most of them have proximity tanking too (KO mech, KO first split, Dagda). So "most" is stretching it a little... But it's good for the tank to have toughness regardless of whether it's needed or not, so I guess it's kinda whatever. Listening to your video I just had sudden flashbacks to pugs checking toughness on QtP.
Another thing is that you put tempest and druid as high healing output... That was definitely true for tempest with the old build, before it got alac, but I think nowadays herald and firebrand have much higher healing output than tempest, and I'd maybe even put scourge up there if you count barrier as healing. I don't have exact numbers to prove my point, but I think tempest (assuming we're talking about a build that actually provides alac, might, etc) is one of the lowest healing output healers.
@@ArekiMirai Specific raid wing guides are in the works covering individual bosses, this was more about what to expect from a heal support position in organized group content. i believe even with the alac trait that tempest is still one of the higher healers, but i am definitely least versed in elementalist out of all the classes.
@@SilhouetteGaming1 I'll be looking forward to seeing raid guides, as all existing ones either contain misinformation, are too long, or go into too much detail regarding strats (which are often outdated) when they should just explain how the boss works instead. Hopefully you don't make those same mistakes. Good luck!
Newer to Guild wars,Support (Heals)in other MMO's,How many Healers are in a full raid group? seen A term That im Familiar with "Kite Healer" ,Also Does Race Effect Class ?
race doesn't do anything in GW2, its purely aesthetic, some entry lvl quest lines changes and you can use specific skills based on your race, but they are completely not in use outside very very very specific situations. In full raid (10 ppl) there are usually 2 healers, 1 in each group of 5 players. Kite here is also a thing (not a healer, someone who can sustain their health on their own), check out some raid content such as Qadim the Peerles (3 kites), Dhuum (1 kite)
2 healers in a typical raid group, could be 3 if you wanted overkill. Sometimes healers kite a mechanic, sometimes other classes do. Race has no effect on anything.
Cool Thanks a ton @@SilhouetteGaming1
For fractals you will barely see healers nowdays, mostly because everyone runs alac renegade/quick scrapper then soulbeasts. Take in consideration if you are a new player, the healer role can help and carry on!!
Not sure its such a good idea to promote healers to newer players ^^
If a dps dies or does not know all mechanics by hand then harder fights are not bound to fail
When the healer dies the fight is often over for the whole group 😅
Additionally a support spec is often required to change the builds/skills to adjust to the fights so its even more complicated
Its better to start easy and get into content slower and dps is just better at this ^^
@@Cross_111 oh sure, I wasn't telling to do the healer role, but most that healers are a good bless in early progress. Ofc for a newcomer playing more safe with a pure power/condi build would be better. You're right.
@@NigthSprings yeah healers are a good bless in any case 😊
Love to join in like t1 or2 fractals all the time to help out newcomers 🤗
Its not always fun to do CMs but as kind of established players its always nice to give some good things back ☺️
I see em all the time in off hours.. hell I usually am the healer. But I do CMs
great video which explains the roll well and cements why i simply do not enjoy gw2 pve
It's pretty fun after you get the hang of it. But it's not easy to learn for sure, hence why I'm making these videos!
@SilhouetteGaming1 I'm sure it's fun.
But its totally off the table for me and my friend group of working adults to spend our one to two hours of game time a week learning the complexities of it.
@maggyinahat hey I get it man, I'm a working adult with a wife and a 3 year old. Not hating, just sayin'. Play what you think is fun :)
Which would you guys personally recommend than Herald or Firebrand?
Herald is overall easier- probably better in some cases but If fractals are your primary gamemode firebrand is goat. Herald qdps is easier than qfb as well but in terms of healers I think Herald is better for casual players - great in wing 7 all around, great in most normal mode strikes namely HT. But I think if you learn HFB it really is just capable of doing everything pretty good despite not having an infinite bubble. It was the goat before heal Herald was even viable. So it's up to what you want, you can get a good amount of mileage out of both builds, arguably more out of HFB but at the cost of a significantly higher learning curve.
@@SilhouetteGaming1 thanks man, I appreciate you! Keep up the great content! 🤜🏼🤛🏼
I really hate the boons and staking in this game I really think if they removed the boons and stacking the game would have been bigger that it was supposed to be. Unfortunately, the fanturd vets like it and the ones who didnt like it left and quit.
Having your own damage be so dependant on another player doing their boon uptime correctly is a truly odd mechanic
Are u a healer,dps,or tank ?
Me:yes
Lol what a mess of a game
Remember to stack this healing ability only travels in a cone infront of me 😅.playstyle of keeping up buffs on your party members sorry meant boons'.hard pass
It's definitely not for everyone, but not really as annoying as it sounds. I love playing supports but also play everything so..
Qheal firebrand
Alac crono
soulbeast P dps
the gods
the rest are imposters
**QDPS Herald and Heal Scourge Entered the Chat**
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