IMAX 1570 DUNE PART TWO & standard 70mm + HMV Oxford Street and FOPP Covent Garden
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- This is a preview of the DUNE PART TWO 15/70 IMAX print at the BFI IMAX which,as I type, I still want to get up to see before all the screenings are over. It's a blow-up from a 4K digital video master so I'm not expecting OPPENHEIMER quality but it was shot with about an hour of 1.43:1 aspect ratio so it should still be quite a special IMAX viewing experience. A new 4K digital video projector was in the process of being installed by Michael Ford at the time of my visit and we also take a look at the dual gauge 70mm/35mm Century projector which I hope will be in use for the 2025 BFI FIlm On Film Festival which was such a success as an inaugural event at the Southbank in 2023.
The Prince Charles Cinema just off Leicester Square in the West End of London has one of the standard 70mm prints of DUNE PART TWO and they are still screening that at the time of typing. There are also opportunities to see it as a double bill with a 4K video projection of the first DUNE film from 2021. Also showing is David Lynch's original DUNE film as a 4K projection.
No trip to London would be complete without a visit to HMV on Oxford Street and also to FOPP just off Cambridge Circus so both these great physical media stores are included as well as the purchases I made in each.
So this video is quite a pot pourri of all things cinema and home cinema and I hope you find it enjoyable. 
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Just ended a 4 week backpacking trip in Cornwall but before I came back to Canada ( via Gatwick) I shot into the Oxford street HMV and spent some $$$ , I did not know about FOPP
but maybe that’s a good thing 🤣
Thanks for your amazing content btw!!!
I hope the weather was good in Cornwall. It can be consistently wet for long periods but I think it got some good weather while you were there. Amazing place. Well done for getting into HMV. Next time you're over you'll have FOPP to look forward to as well.
John.
great! i love cinema projector
Finally got to see the 15/70 print yesterday Marco. Hopefully a review video coming soon but may decide to wait for the 4K disc and include the whole thing in one upload.
John.
Thank you for putting this video out. I always learn a lot from your videos and enjoy getting to see what the stores are like across the pond. Thank you again!
You're welcome Tom and thank you. John.
What a nice built of the illuminated IMAX 70mmm 35mm Frame-Box on your Wall, well done! :-) Cheers John
I think that little lightbox only cost me £30.50 on eBay Michael. No other bidders which was a bit of a surprise.
John.
I was lucky enough to catch Dune Part Two in standard 70mm at the Irish Film Institute. The natural soft visuals, grain and warm colours were a treat to experience on the big screen. Very different to IMAX with Laser, and the 4K disc does not disappoint.
I'm pleased to know that you managed to enjoy this in 70mm Graham. Coincidentally, I've just put a review of the 4K disc together having just watched it on Saturday evening. That should be live in the next couple of hours.
Got to go now, currently running some very nice 35mm trailers!
John.
good video you say big formats helping bring people back to cinema box office numbers paint a different story
Overall that's right due to the ridiculously short window between cinema and streaming release. However in large screen premium formats there has been an increase in audiences. The IMAX Corporation last year celebrated its highest grossing year of all time. Oppenheimer made 20% of its nearly billion dollar box office from IMAX screenings, which is unprecedented. More IMAX cameras and cinemas are to be built, and this seems to be cinema's USP going forward. Films need to be events to draw people to cinemas. Oppenheimer, Barbie and Dune Part Two have shown this to be the case.
Thank you David. You summed the situation up better than I ever could have done. I can't see how smaller, poorly attended local cinemas can hope to regenerate their audiences by reintroducing film but myself and a few others do have something up our sleeves. We're hoping to detail the basics of it at Film Is Fabulous at the Hereford Courtyard on 1st June. A low cost option to offer something different to a telephone or flat screen telly is what is required. Something that can work with all forms of projection.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 thanks John. I don't blame general audiences for staying home as they save money and time and with a decent system the quality difference is not noticable to an average viewer. And the film industry harmed themselves by reducing time from cinema release to streaming to just 6 weeks! I honestly think as a whole they need to go back to a longer time between. Your proposal sounds very interesting. I look forward to hearing more at the time or just after. 35mm can also be used as a draw for audiences, for its unique atmospheric qualities. Perhaps a good way to beat the malaise at so-so digital presentations. I also think printing Digitally shot films to a film print is a good measure. And there have been very effective examples. Even the Digitally shot Marvel film Doctor Strange 2 got a 35mm print made of it!
both make some good points cost is an issue for example for the price of one imax screening i can get one month of odeon limitless
@@chrisburns7979 There's IMAX and there's IMAX Chris. When it comes to the video projection versions it's possible some Odeons might give superior imagery if they have Dolby Vision capability. But the enormous screens of even the faux IMAX houses takes some beating. Masking and curtains would be nice but the engineering and cost of the really huge screens such as the BFI IMAX make it prohibitive. Keeping something so massive reliable would be a concern too.
John.
Really pleased you've seen it now, John, I was hoping you would. Good to see it on 70mm but hope you can see it on IMAX 70mm (i'm sure BFI IMAX will keep bringing it out as with Oppenheimer and Interstellar). I saw it at Waterloo and the addition of the film grain (not noticable in the Digital IMAX screening) adds an interesting effect to the desert in that it mimics sand grains! The constant movement of these adds a spark of reality as film grain does, but also makes it more like being there as you can imagine thats the sand particles in the air! Not disruptive, more it gives you a feel of what you're seeing is real!
We're seeing it on Monday David and very much looking forward to it. There's been a lot going on lately that has meant we haven't been able to get to the BFI IMAX when they've been showing it... until this Monday. John.
@@moviecollector5920 it's good that we have the BFI acting as a library of cinema screenings. Certainly the sold out screenings of this and other IMAX 70mm showings means there is a following that will turn out. The BFI's own Film On Film project has also been good with this, with their commitment to restrike prints of a certain amount of classic films every year. The Prince Charles is also a haven of this, as are the assorted cinemas around the country that as often as possible run Film prints.
Those film projector shots always take me back to when I was threading up 35mm at the theater!
You should track one down for home. Not an IMAX though!!! Then again, that would make for some interesting MyFireVideos on your channel. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I would love that!😂
I’m so freaking happy I saw this on 70/15 I even made sure to not see it before I saw it this way! I do hope to see more of these prints out there and even more directors film in the format. Just a fun side note apparently for ghostbusters frozen empire there were a limited number of 35mm prints in LA I wish I could’ve seen it that way.
I didn't know any 35mm prints had been struck for the recent Ghostbusters film. That appears to be further encouraging news that the film and cinema industry is waking up. There just might be life in the old dog after all.
John.
I hope so as well. With film being shot that’s never completely gone away, I mean even films like both Wonder Woman movies, a quiet place part two and the fall guy were shot either mostly or in part on film with digital where necessary. But as far as projection is concerned I do hope to see a trend up for film.
Watched this movie three times at the cinema. IMAX with Laser GT 1.43:1 (The Ronson Theatre) and 1.90:1 (Cineworld, Leicester Square) and Dolby Cinema. Enjoyed it every time. 😎
Thank you John.
I wonder which movie will be printed on 15/70 next?
@@boredtech £64,000 question, right there!
There could be another before the end of this year but it will be another 4K digital video blow-up if it does happen. Can't remember the proposed title right now.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 - Dune: Prophecy?
Great video, John! very happy to see you back up in the booths again. I still haven't seen how the 1570 prints of dune 2 look, but I'm not getting my hopes up. perhaps if it's playing while I'm near the Melbourne IMAX I may try see it then. I still haven't even seen it entirely. I plan to watch it with my dad when we are both free. Looking forward to it!
Having a a nice cup of tea on this Friday evening in Au. Hope you're doing well
Cheers,
Clark
Funnily enough Clark, I'm just having a nice cup of tea on this lovely Friday morning.
I don't expect too much of a 4K blow-up to 15/70 but I'm appreciative that it's been done, particularly given the expense. I hope it's proving as big a success at the other 11 cinemas around the world with a print as it is at the BFI IMAX. I also hope that other film makers are being given the budget to start shooting with film again now that it's been proven that it's how people want to see a movie. I suppose a big problem will now be that there aren't enough technicians with the experience and ability to shoot with film.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 You're exactly right, John. There was in fact a list of upcoming features that will have sequences shot in 1570 and the number was rather substantial, I recall around 10 new titles I believe. Great to see more people finally appreciating film. The upcoming "Joker 2 Folie A Duex" will be having 70mm prints made in both 5 perf and IMAX. So it is certainly having an upbringing!
Cheers
@@ClarkTeddles Aha, the Joker sequel is the one that is being proposed will have ten 15/70 prints struck for ten lucky genuine IMAX houses around the world. But I hadn't heard any of the other news which is tremendous. Well done OPPENHEIMER!
John.
One from the Heart disc is amazing. The new cut makes far better sense and the 4K picture quality is simply beyond stunning
I'm looking forward to watching it Klaus. I'd never even heard of the film as far as I can remember so it should be a bit of a treat to see a Francis Coppola that will be entirely new to me.
John.
Glad to hear such positive response! I'm really intrigued to hear movie collector's opinion, One From the Heart is a real treat in sound and vision.
@@danrobbinsart We took a peak at it on Wednesday evening and it looks very nice Dan. An extra surprise is that Harry Dean Stanton is in it too. John.
salut merci pour cette belle vdèo sur le film bien toujour
merci Alain. Nous regardons peut-être ce thriller de science-fiction français ce soir, 'Night Of The Hunted'. John.
A very interesting video, John. Always learning something new and enjoying your comments.
Have a nice day.
Thank you Juanjo. We have some good weather here currently so it looks like it will be another nice day. I hope you're enjoying good weather too... but of course you are!
John.
I’m always impressed seeing your videos of that projection room at the IMAX cinema. I read Frank Herbert’s Dune books but I could never get very enthused by them so not a film for me.
I didn't ever find the Dune books particularly enthralling either Stephen but I always suspected that was because I loved the Asimov Foundation series of books and Frank Herbert's series didn't match up to those in my opinion. How on earth Foundation could ever be successfully carried over to films remains to be seen but I'm not sure Dune has so far. However, the attempt with the first of these two new films was a valiant attempt and I think it's worth me supporting the second film given the effort and expense that's been put into producing standard 70mm and 15/70 IMAX prints.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yes I much preferred the Asimov Foundation series too.
Fantastic video John
I am planning go to London in few weeks. I will go to HMV shop new Oxford Street. And other dvd shop you mentioned. I used go to shopping for videos and dvds and records in 1980s .In those days there were lot shops HMV virgin mega store and tower records forbidden planet . I have pre ordered Dune part 2 on 4k . All the best John
Forbidden Planet is just a little way further up Shaftesbury Avenue from FOPP so don't forget to take a look at all the film books in the lower ground. There's a sale area in a corner if you turn left at the bottom of the stairs and then left again. Some real bargains there usually. Have a great time. And if there's a chance to see a 15/70 at the BFI IMAX or the Ronson Theatre in the Science Museum during your trip then grab it.
John.
Thank you John for the information. I appreciate it . 👍🙂
Hi John! Thank you for all this marvellous information and footage put in this video - hope we manage to see Dune part 2 at the BFI IMAX; it’s seems quite exciting! P.S. It was a pleasure to meet you at FOPP ~ Benjamin & Carla
It was lovely to meet the two of you Benjamin and Carla. I'm going to try to take a look at the current scheduled screenings of DUNE PART TWO sometime tomorrow and see if we can make on work. Maybe you'll both be able to get a day off and join us so I'll email if I manage to find the time to get it all booked up. Back two rows are best and when tickets are around £25 for the cheapest seats a few pounds more is worth it for the added comfort.
John.
Some great pickups John... enjoy 👍
Thank you Roy. We've taken peaks at Night of the Hunted and One From The Heart and the image quality of both looks good with 'Hunted' looking surprisingly good.
John.
Glad you got one from the heart it has a fairytale quality and a great soundtrack by Tom waits and crystal gayle
Crystal Gayle... now there's a beautiful lady with an equally beautiful voice who I haven't heard in a long time. I'll look forward to One From The Heart even more now. John.
Nice video, I always enjoy seeing what you buy and your tours around the projection booths! I recently managed to get a seat for the 15/70 Dune 2 at the BFI and it was an interesting presentation. As you suspect, definitely not native IMAX film quality, but the scale and impact were impressive. I think I spotted three different aspect ratios in use. Trouble is, I was flanked by two huge popcorn buckets who managed to scrape their buckets noisily throughout the entire running time, which really ruined it for me. Actually quite impressive how audible they were given the volume of the movie. I know cinemas need food sales to stay in business, but noisy eaters just spoil the experience for me and put me off going again for a while. I wonder how much more they'd have to charge for a no-food screening? Anyway, as for the presentation again, I think I preferred the Cineworld IMAX in Leicester Square for this movie. Hoping to catch a few films for the 25th anniversary of the BFI IMAX, but again already anxious about the popcorn. Yours, grumpily!
I know exactly what you mean Gordon. But despite a few noisy eaters around us yesterday we managed to finally see the film at the BFI IMAX. I don't know if the 70mm blow-up treatment works as well from 4K video as it does from 35mm but I do appreciate that it's been done. At least it looked like e genuine film and that's all any of us could wish for really. However, the trailer of Furiosa looked impressive from that massive laser lamp digital video projector so I suspect I'd prefer some movies done one way and others through the blow-up treatment. With each of the 12 prints of DUNE PART TWO apparently costing around £45K to produce such an effort has to be supported.
Sadly, I can't go into The Empire any longer. I think I'd be too upset as I loved it in there and can't bear the thought of seeing that beautiful auditorium chopped up. Nothing lasts forever sadly.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I'm glad you got to see it, and agree, it did have more of a film look to it - as you'd hope! I agree about the old Empire, I have so many happy memories of it when I used to visit a lot in the 90's. I even remember my favourite seat in the middle of row CC so you would see over the heads of anyone walking past! To a lesser extent, I also miss the old Warner screen almost nextdoor before it was also chopped up. I adored their THX trailers and saw so many classics on both screens. I was really upset when they sub-divided the Empire, but I have to say while it misses the huge auditorium aspect, it is still one of my favourite screens for digital IMAX formats. The seats at the BFI are too small for long films! I'm also fond of the new Odeon West End Dolby screen, with its deep underground location being a secret weapon against phones! That's my favourite for 2.35:1. Sadly the main Odeon LS has out-priced me. I used to love that front row at the top!
@@cameralabs It's become increasingly obvious to me that cinema is in terminal decline Gordon. OPPENHEIMER does seem to have pointed a way forward but I do think something more is required and it has to be minimal cost but something that can't be easily replicated at home and certainly not on a telephone. The answer can be found in the past just like it can with almost everything. There's nothing new under the sun. I was upset when the Leicester Square Theatre was chopped up and become the Odeon West End so I don't think I'll ever expect it being a miniature bunker. The two THX auditoriums in the Warner West End were wonderful. The Odeon still is wonderful but it's lost its cinema seating in an effort to remain viable. The screen in there doesn't seem to be quite as wide any longer though. We also used to sit at the back of the first section of balcony seating which was the best place to see a film in there. Now you have to sit near the front but unfortunately in a bloody armchair! However, it seems like the unlimited Odeon monthly pass for £17.50 does include this great cinema so it could be worth you looking into that as you've stayed in London. We abandoned our home town when the congestion taxing started as I value freedom and didn't like the look of how the road taxing would inevitably end up.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I hear you! If you've not visited the Dolby Screen at Odeon West End though, I really would recommend just one movie to see what a really dedicated new cinema can do as the picture, sound and seating work really well together, rather than a chopped-up or repurposed space. But I know it can be hard if you have fond memories of an older venue. I still don't forgive OLS for putting in those recliners upstairs! And yes, you're right, OLS is on the unlimited pass, but when I tried it for a few months I wasn't able to go often enough to make it work. I live in Brighton now, but if I were still in London, I'd definitely do it!
@@moviecollector5920 PS - just bagged Dunkirk tickets which I've not yet seen in 15/70. Hope to bump into you at some point in the future!
John, didn't know 'One from the Heart' existed! Where have you been. It's probably Coppola's most theatrical movie and certainly the production of which is a prelude to the modern digital cinema era. Do a full review please, I'd love to hear your first impressions.
Yes, where have I been Siddique? It amazes me that I've missed so many great films down the years. In my defence I have been in stressful work roles and for the past - almost 20 - years I've been self-employed and working stupid hours seven days a week. It's nice not to be doing those 80+ hours a week now but that's only because the pandemic killed every aspect of our business. But it's wonderful to be seeing some great films from the past for the first time in the wonderful quality now being provided by 4K home video discs. Who ever would have thunk it?
If I like One From The Heart I probably will do a review video. I don't suppose it will be a popular video but if it's interesting to make it then who cares?
John.
Hi John, well I finally went to see Dune 2 in iMAX in Melbourne. The last 1570 screening they are showing. WOW amazing film and looked awesome! I have pre ordered my 4K disc.....Just disappointed to hear that it won't have iMax ratio shots on the disk and only 2:20 through out.
Don't tell me Melbourne are giving up on 15/70 just as it's making a worldwide comeback. Melbourne is the last IMAX house in Australia so that would be terrible news.
We're finally going to see the film on Monday. Being as it's full of 1.43:1 it makes for an even more special cinematic adventure and given that the home video release won't have any of that makes it even better still. It won't matter much with the 4K disc though as the whole thing was shot with the intention of missing nothing vital outside of the 2.40:1 frame size. It's just to add impact in an IMAX house, including the faux IMAX houses.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Hey John, sorry I meant it was the last screening of Dune 2 in 15/70. Definitely not stopping screening other films in this format.
@@Malcolm-McIntyre Aha! I should have twigged that Malcolm. Thank you for the correction. John.
I bought the Aliens 4k recently. I've not watched it properly but I did put it in to see how it looked. The quality does look very good and you can still see the grain structure. It doesn't look overly smooth like the Terminator 2 4K, at least from what I saw.
I was worried after hearing something about an AI upscale.
The only thing I noticed that didn't quite look right was the Fox logo at the very beginning.
It looked flat and the outline stood out a bit too much.
But then seeing a few early scenes of the film, everything looked fine.
Don't take any notice of any of us doing reviews (and possibly getting it wrong) because the only thing that matters is what you think. I don't think Aliens was ever the best looking film but when you see what has been done with American Graffiti from particularly low origins, then it should be possible to make higher quality films such as Aliens look very good indeed. True Lies has issues but overall I thought it was the best of all the home video options we looked at. Trevor from Double Bill Movies felt that he preferred the Blu-ray which I can understand.
I'll probably get the Aliens disc when it's a little cheaper but I doubt I'll ever watch the whole thing as nothing is going to supplant my Super 8 film print.
John.
Love it when you go behind the scenes into the nitty-gritty of cinema. If you had your choice, where do you prefer to sit in the cinema: front row, up close, mid-way, at the back? Of course it depends on the size of the screen, the cinema, and likely the quality of your peripheral vision, but do you like to be enveloped, comfy, or a birds eye view? Have there been any studies on this?
I thought I'd already answered you Mubai but in case it went missing... I've tended to either be right at the front or right at the back. At The Empire we always preferred row R which was directly as you entered the auditorium so had a walkway behind it down to the front section of seats or back to the steeply raked section behind. The important thing with row R was that there was no one directly behind to kick the back of your seat.
John.
Greetings from a very cold Santiago de Chile. I recently receive my 4K version of "One From the Heart" and here in America is only a disc set. I expect to watch it soon. I love "The Outsiders" and I have it in Blu-Ray and 4K, but none of them compare to your incredible copy loaded with extras. I know that there are some rights issue that explain the lack of material between the US and UK editions, but that is the downside of being a collector in Latin America. Same thing with the movies. Although some art houses are projecting old movies in 35mm, our Imax theaters are only digital and they don't have the style and experience quality that you can find in Britain. Although we have digital projection in few theaters, they focused mainly in recent films many of the dubbed in spanish because according to some polls the chilean audience hate subtitles. And these is one of the reasons why I prefered to invest in 4K or BR which are the best alternative to enjoy a movie you love the way you want. Adiós, amigo.
We watched that French film 'The Night Of The Hunted' last night Gaspargh and apart from one or two too many sex scenes I think we both very much enjoyed it. It has English subtitles and I wouldn't have wanted to see it any other way. But then, we're all film enthusiasts on here and want to see the original versions of movies irrespective of where they've been made and the spoken language. Occasionally I find I have to import a 4K disc simply because it is not released over here but I can't do it very often owing to the cost. I dare say that would be even worse in Chile. And now that I mention Chile, we watched out PAL LaserDisc of 'Alive' (1992 I think) a couple of weeks ago. We hadn't spun it in years and what a great film that one is. Surely that's a fabulous film that should be selected for a new 4K release.
John.
Hi there always enjoy your videos love movies action my favorite genre keep up the good work
Evening Michael. We re-watched our NTSC LaserDisc of BREAKDOWN a few nights ago. I think that was 1997 and if you haven't seen it, it's an action movie with everything you could ever wish for including fine acting and great suspense. John.
@@moviecollector5920 yes Kurt Russell good movie enjoyed it
@@michaelrayner7451 We just watched the LaserDisc of Executive Decision this evening. Another terrific Kurt Russell action adventure. Great fun even if it is a lot of nonsense. Action films were better in those days but there have been some exceptions in recent years.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 agreed mission impossible and john wick movies just fantastic anyway nice talking to you
I really enjoyed the Caine film. As to Night Of The Hunted. I've been a Jean Rollin fan ever since I saw Fascination and have had all his films on VHS, many on VCD, DVD, Blu ray and I'm really pleased to see that he is being released on 4k, uncut and restored with original french dialogue and improved subtitles. They are an acquired taste but I love the poetic, dreamlike nature of his films. I can recommend Fascination, The Iron Rose and Two Orphan Vampires. There is a lot of nudity in them but it is all done in the best possible French taste (mostly). Don't expect a traditional narrative and just let them wash over you. I love his films.
Morning Chris. I've just read the 80 page book that comes with The Night of the Hunted 4K and I found it all so interesting. It was probably obvious to most but I now understand why gratuitous sex scenes have historically been chucked into so many movies in the past. We had a look at the image quality the other evening and it looks beautiful.
John.
Got to see this is all formats and loved 70mm
I have Odeon limitless card that's why I can see so many films
If I was still living in the West End of London I'd have that Odeon card too. It seems like an incredible deal.
John.
yes it is great you pay 3 pound extra for Imax and all other platforms
2D screens are free
You get discounts on restaurant and food in the cinema
One day I went to the cinema and stayed all day and watched one film after another that was the day I was waiting for force awakens to come out
The cinema in London Odeon no me very well
I always say the cinema is my comfort zone 😂
One movie I have seen recently was back to black the Amy Winehouse film
made me cry as she's what people say an idol to me 😏
@@xix94 I used to almost live in the major cinemas in Leicester Square. That was during the mid 1990's. Towards the end of the 90's the image quality across cinema in general started to decline and with few exceptions today it has never recovered. The big driver initially seems to have been the advent of computer special effects animation. This almost forced film makers to use Super 35 rather than full frame anamorphic 35mm and the inevitable decline in quality that resulted. Then it turned out that some films, such as The Matrix, were subjected to unfinished computer effects and it was so obvious to me whereas hardly anyone else seemed to notice. I started going to the cinema less and less and then in 2006 I almost gave up altogether. The last film I saw at The Empire was Prometheus and it looked awful compared to the superlative quality we consistently had in this once great cinema previously. I'm careful about cinema visits today and tend to restrict them to when I know a film print is being screened. But seeing how good Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes looks in the BFI IMAX rather entices me to give video projection in cinemas another try.
John.
Thank You
You're welcome Robert. John.
One From The Heart was featured on the wonderful BBC2 series American Wave in the early 90s along with Dinner and Rumblefish. So been waiting for this release for a while. Hopefully the price will drop. The Great Escaper is excellent. Love the peek into the Waterloo IMAX again!
Morning Robert. There was one scene in The Great Escaper which had the worst banding issue I've ever seen on a disc. It might be an aberration of the 4K player unsuccessfully upscaling the image but I've not come across anything the like of it before. Still a great film though and didn't spoil my enjoyment one jot, just a surprise to see such an awful digital artifact on screen.
We had a look at the image quality of One From The Heart and it gave a very good impression despite only looking at a few seconds here and there. A nice surprise to see Harry Dean Stanton in it though.
John.
Another great video John, thank you it really does inspire me to expand my collection.
BTW I always enjoy your updates about what's happening at the BFI, who manufactures the amazing projectors? They must be at the cutting edge of film technology and would be extremely interesting.
Thanks again.
Mark
Thank you Mark. I can't remember who manufactured those fabulous, giant IMAX GT projectors but the answer must surely be on the web somewhere. Finding it will probably be the issue though. IMAX Corporation design them but I expect they get someone like Philips Kinoton to manufacture. 15/70 certainly is the cutting edge of cinema and has been since just before 1970 so it's been quite a long period to be at the top. However good video projection may become in the future it's just not as exciting. How on earth those IMAX film projectors don't explode or implode when they're chucking that enormous gauge through at 24 frames per second is one of the world's great mysteries. An engineering marvel.
John.
Thanks John, that's helpful..
Great video as always John, just started to watch close encounters of the 3rd kind on 4k and then it'll be The Others on 4k. Got both from hmv 2 for 30 sale.
Coincidentally we just had another look at The Others a few nights ago Dark. This was because my mother was here for a while and she could not remember ever seeing the film despite Alejandro Amenabar actually staying in my parents flat while he was trying to get everything in place to make The Others. He was in London and flew to New York to see Messrs. Cruise and Kidman and thought Ms Kidman was lovely. I've never met her but agree with his sentiments!
John.
Hi John! Havn't seen dune pt 2 yet but still planning on seeing it in cinemas. Did watch the 1st one again on 4k it looks fantastic. Off this evening to see Mad Max at cinemas and curious did you hear about a new Superman film being shot in Imax film? Hope you have a great weekend congrats on your trip to London Hmv etc sooo jealous as you know haha cheers D in BC!!
Maybe you should fly over Dave and we'll all go to see Dune Part Two at the IMAX. I think they have a few more screenings scheduled so I might finally try to get organized later today.
I hadn't heard about a new Superman film being shot in genuine IMAX. That would be a good news story for the cinema industry as a whole as it would confirm that people have woken up to the reasons for OPPENHEIMER's success and are trying to continue the success with other productions. There is the chance of another movie shot on digital video being blown up to 15/70 later this year but I can't recall any more than that right now so can't suggest the possible title.
John.
Interesting as always- would recommend you pick up Aliens. It’s a film that I also know very well, but watching the 4K really drew me back into the experience of the film again, just like when I first saw it.
Would really appreciate a review of One From The Heart. Only ever saw it on a small cinema screen back when it came out so it would be good the hear your thoughts on this 4k edition.
BTW, I loved The Great Escaper. Terrific performances and the movie is not shy of addressing some tough and moving issues.
Afternoon David. We watched The Great Escaper on Wednesday evening and both loved it. It's quite difficult not to shed a tear or two. What a wonderful film. We then had a peak at two of the 4K discs we brought home, One From The Heart and Night of the Hunted and both look good but we didn't look at very much. With regards to Aliens, I have two copies of it on Super 8 film and I can't imagine watching it any other way unless someone donates a 35mm print sometime. It's the same for me with Alien because although I did review that disc as an excuse to doing a rather extensive RUclips video all about the film I didn't watch it all as I didn't feel that I needed to. Maybe Aliens is one I'll have a look at when it's not £25 which seems like a lot to pay for something I'll never watch all the way through. I've been getting variable reports about it but my opinion is that irrespective of any modern technology that's applied to a film, if the end result looks good then who cares? I'd like it if the Super 8 prints were better but it wasn't possible given the technology available in 1989 when the Super 8 rights were negotiated, 16mm reduction negative supplied and first prints struck. It's wonderful to be able to see it on film though.
John.
The Great Escaper is a lovely film. Caine is great but Glenda Jackson gives a powerhouse performance. I reviewed it on my channel a few months ago and it’s a thoroughly good watch.
I couldn’t get the Blu-ray on Amazon and bought it in person at HMV in Liverpool, which is another good shop. Best wishes, Dave
Please try to put the url in for your review on here Dave and I'll enjoy taking a look at it. We watched it last nigh. Did you spot the banding in one dark scene which was probably the worst I've ever seen? I suppose it was a fault at the time of shooting so nothing could be done afterwards but it does devalue the Blu-ray. A great film though. I feel like writing to Mr. Caine to tell him how much I enjoyed it.
John.
Thanks for the quick video. The Hitman sequel does contain profanity but I let it wash over me.The underlying plot is just as much fun as the orginal at least to me. The amount cleavage on display is also impressive. The power of browsing cannot be underestimated and has resulted in me spending money on impulse on unknown to me titles. Its very difficult to properly browse on Amazon. They provide a fixed mumber of items per page I give up after about 10 pages of several hundred. E bay much better for this. Much better is the operation to replace discs. HMV online 3 weeks.HMV shop instant with choice of refund or replacement.Saw the BFI release of Wages Of Fear in York HMV no idea it was available now considering purchase!!! Again John many thanks for the channel and the updates
I too saw the Wages of Fear 4K release Mike so will also probably have to purchase that one at some point. I've only ever seen it once and that was actually at the BFI's National Film Theatre many years ago. As for shopping on-line, I too get bored with it but during the worst of the Covid fiasco I did have to stick with looking at the pages of the HMV shop as there wasn't very often any alternative. I don't use Amazon for anything and eBay can be frustrating when the same titles appear in the search results over and over again. There's nothing better - or more dangerous! - than actually browsing shelves in a shop.
John.
I'm pretty sure the entirety of DUNE PART 2 was shot 1.43:1 for IMAX. Whereas PART ONE only contained an hour of IMAX shots.
Also, interesting fact about ONE FROM THE HEART you may not know: It bankrupted Francis Ford Coppolla. On a technical level, it was an even more ambitious project than APOCALYPSE NOW was, albeit not as difficult to film.
If it didn't do well then that explains why it never crossed my path I suppose. Looking forward to it now though so thank you for the information.
It will be good if the whole of the Dune sequel is 1.43:1. I hope the image quality is somewhat better than the first film though which looks a little lacklustre on both my 4K video projectors. Some cinemas were better than others too though so it's all a little variable.
John.
Ah jean rollin.... Many of his vampire films are very atmospheric but dont make a lick of sense. Back in the day i used to go to eurofest all nighters at the everyman cinema. One occasion it was jean rollin night, they showed one of his films with 2 reels in the wrong order causing much hilarity when a main character died in the first few minutes only to intantly reappear.
When I saw Diamonds Are Forever in 1970 a couple of the reels were in the wrong order. As it was all fairly incomprehensible to me back then anyway it didn't make a lot of difference.
By the way, I had a look at a few scenes from Night of the Hunted last night and it gave a very, very good impression. Quite a nice surprise.
John.
Hello John, I have not heard of Fopp before. Interestingly enough I was looking online today for any new mainstream DVD releases. It appears nothing new is coming out on DVD anymore? This is a shame. I have bought a couple of films on Amazon, but it's most annoying, that one can only play them back via Amazon. The last 2 DVD's I was able to buy were Barbie and Oppenheimer. Michael's projection room is amazing, he is such a professional and always puts on a first class show. An excellent Vlog as always. Thank you very much. Take care. Spoolbox
Good evening Fred. I think there are three FOPP shops left in Britain now. They are subsidiaries of HMV but smaller shops packed with physical media and little else besides other than perhaps some books but not many.
The solution to your DVD problem is to get a standard Blu-ray player which probably start at less than fifty smackers these days. Any Blu-ray player will work with older equipment even if it means an investment in a little gizmo box to adapt an HDMI to the previous audio and video outputs. It's all pretty cheap now.
Michael might be the most experienced projectionist still working full time in the UK today. He may well be one of the most experienced in the world. And to think you captured him more than 20 years ago plying his trade in his previous cinema. The history of cinema you captured during what has turned out to be the end of the heyday of cinema as we once knew it is so valuable today. My wife and I enjoy each one of your RUclips videos together and the recent longer video of the Hastings Odeon was simply wonderful.
John.
Always subscribed and liked, John.
Dune was printed to film to soften the sand and likely to help blend the cgi which was I’m assuming rendered in 2k. Genius decision. But in my opinion the final grade must be done digitally and projected digitally. Film projection is fun, but nothing compared to a good laser projector. Also, I can’t stand all of that imax headroom. If it isn’t framed for imax, why bother?
We finally saw the 15/70 print yesterday Cody and there is quite a lot of 1.43:1 framing in it so it appears that it was filmed that way as there was no perceptible degradation in image quality during those sequences. In fact, a couple of times I'd say the image quality was better when it went to 1.43:1. I haven't seen the video projection to compare it against but it had the distinctive look of film about it which I did not get from the 4K disc of the first part a couple of years ago. The sound was pretty good too... to say the least!
John.
Great to hear re: installation of new 4K-non imax projector. I have been waiting for this due to finding films with a 1.85:1 or 1.78:1 AR had sub par brightness during recent visits. Can I ask when was this footage shot? Judging by the brightness of the Rolex sponsor ad (which afaik is always projected off the non-imax digital projector) it didn’t seem like it had been installed and was up and running yet on a recent visit
I shot it on Monday Tom. The new projector is too bright just like my home video projector with a laser lamp but just like mine the laser can be reined down to 50% so all will be well and you won't need sunglasses to watch anything projected with it.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 excellent cheers John!
The first movie I saw as a boy was "THE BLACK SHIELD OF FALWORTH" a movie that is on blu-ray..hope for a 4k version. Tony Curtis and wife Janet Leigh, with a great supporting cast..Have you seen this movie in your youth like Me? or do You have the disc also..I love cinema also and Your video's..
I probably have seen it Bill but when I was very young and on a television broadcast. I always enjoyed those sort of films. I shall keep a lookout for the Blu-ray now that you've told me about it.
John.
John will you be giving the new 4K of Once Upon a Time in the West a look? Appreciate Leone's Westerns likely not your cup of tea but the reviews are as mixed/ alarming as those for the True Lies 4K. Its one of my favourite films and I hate to see such classics get problematic releases.
I have Once Upon A Time In The West on Blu-ray Ian and as I recall, that's pretty darned good. So if you have any concerns about the 4K then maybe give the old Blu-ray a look first if you don't have it already. True Lies isn't as bad as some are saying but I can understand the disappointment. If it were one of my favourite films I'd be disappointed but as much as I like it I don't find it that repeatable. Put some work into re-configuring video projector or telly and True Lies actually looks rather good. We think the slightly waxy facial shots are like that because the focus was slightly soft and so the technology used couldn't fully correct it. In the end, I felt the 4K was better than the previous Blu-ray release but Trevor preferred the grainy look of the Blu-ray.
John.
Hej John i Hope you Will review outsiders. Good video.
I might go back to it one day Benjamin but at the time I didn't find I was enthused enough with it to do a video. I suppose so many other RUclips review videos had shown that pack that there was little point in me doing much the same thing. John.
I noticed you blu ray of the pacific on the shelf and wondered if you’d watched that or band of brothers recently ?
I ask because I recently re-watched both in anticipation of masters of the air. I’d always thought they’d had the best audio I’d ever heard but that was with my old 5.1 set up. I now have a 5.1.2 atmos set up and even after seeing most of the really great 4k discs for audio) I have to say that these 2 series are still standouts for audio in my book….better than any atmos tracks. They are soooo involving and you’d think they were brand new atmos tracks if you didn’t know.
Would love to hear your thoughts if you get around to watching a few scenes!
We only watched the Blu-rays of THE PACIFIC a few months back and this was because I found it in a local charity shop for £3. We've had the DVD version for years. The sound on many older tracks is better than the over the top multi-channel of today but even matrixed Dolby Stereo is often better than 5.1. I think it's down to the watering down of the overall sound due to more and more channels being added whereas we used to get full range sound around us from all four matrixed channels. THE PACIFIC has to be one of the best series of all time. BAND OF BROTHERS probably isn't far behind it either.
John.
Interesting that you found the pacific better than BoB! They’re both amazing but I prefer BoB and two of the most amazing series ever. I’ve yet to watch masters of the air
@@TomGur147 Both are excellent but I found the realism of the battles in The Pacific so convincing. With the THX pumping out the bass as the shells and bullets hit it makes me feel like I'm there. The Battle of Bastoyne in Band of Brothers is similar. John.
@@moviecollector5920 yes John I think the pacific was slightly ahead for the sound, as we’ve both said it is simply amazing and puts you right in the middle of it all!
As for overall story/coherence it’s BoB for me
I only hope we get Master of the air on 4k Blu Ray but I highly highly doubt Apple will release it 🥲
All the best. Tom
Hello John, forgive me if you have already answered this question before, but out of interest, what would an Imax projector cost and how much are the IMAX prints? Thanks.
I don't have answers for you there Michael. I've heard a few estimates of the cost of an OPPENHEIMER IMAX print and they've been as high as into the hundreds of thousands. I can't believe it could be that high though otherwise the 29 prints would have added millions to the total cost of the film's release. Just 12 prints of DUNE PART TWO would have been prohibitive but for a genuine IMAX house to be able to advertise IMAX 70mm then following the success of OPPENHEIMER these genuine houses are almost guaranteed a full house at every screening for months.
John.
A 70mm print of Oppenheimer cost about 60,000 American dollars to make.
@@Ms.Fowlbwahhh Thank you Ms Fowlwahhh. That's about £45K in our money and although still prohibitively expensive it's not as bad as some were suggesting. Nowhere near as bad thankfully. John.
@@moviecollector5920 thank you John. Hopefully as we see from your posts most of the IMAX houses sell out when they screen blockbusters. This will help to keep the investments going with new venues in more major cities in the UK and one day Ireland too.
@@Ms.Fowlbwahhh thank you.
I've wondered about that new version of ONE FROM THE HEART. I saw it when it premiered and it was a terrible flop for Coppola. He spent so much money trying to capture the old MGM musical vibe and it just didn't work. The Tom Waits music is an acquired taste. I never knew anyone who liked this movie very much. It was lovely to look at but totally forgettable. I plan on checking out the new 4K since it's been so many years since I've seen it.
We had a look at a couple of scenes last night to check the image quality which looks nice but best of all, Harry Dean Stanton is in it so that's an unexpected bonus. The aspect ratio is 1.37:1 too so I've been working on the side masking today to see if I can get it all the way in to envelop the image. Looking forward to watching it. Let's hope you find it better today than you did as a whippersnapper!
John.
They're not changing the name, to The King Charles?
You never know Grant. John.
Good to know the passion lives on through IMAX. It's just a pity that we don't have any stories worthy of the film stock. God knows why so many people have gone nuts for these _Dune_ movies. I don't see them breaking the mould. On the contrary, it's the same bland slop we've been served for nearly two decades.
I can understand what you're saying as I didn't think very highly of the first Dune a couple of years ago. However, I did take a second look at it a few months ago in preparation for seeing the second film and I finally did that on Monday. It's somewhat more impressive on a huge screen and with the sound through one of the best systems in the country. I now find that I've rather got into it all and am quite enthusiastic to see the new film on 4K disc at home. I wonder how it will stand up to what I just saw.
There are some good films still being made it's just some of them - many perhaps - are lost in the crowd. And with hardly anyone going to cinemas today it's not like we tend to discuss the latest flick with colleagues at work or friends and family.
John.
WB learned the wrong lesson from Oppenheimer’s success. If Dune was shot and finished digitally why show it on film?
You might be jumping to the wrong conclusion there Rashid because I've been told (might be wrong of course) that the 4K video master is printed to the film stock prior to the addition of the faux film grain. That would mean the raw video then gets totally natural, genuine random grain to make it the best available image quality we are able to see. If we can get to one of the 12 genuine IMAX houses with a 15/70 print of course.
John.
Very interesting stuff as always. The Hitman's wife's bodyguard is a film that became unwatchable for me; way too much profanity. Just way too much. I remember seeing an interview with Salma Hayek in which the interviewer asked if all the profanity they used was in the script, or did they ad-lib. When something like that comes up in an interview, you know it was overdone.
Effing hell Timothy, that probably means it will drive wifey and I nuts too. What a shame because the first film was great fun. John.
What’s the point of transferring a digitally shot movie onto film? It’s cheating lol. Might as well just add a filter at that point
I suppose the same could be said for all the 35mm to 70mm blow-ups we used to enjoy but they always looked so much better. I've been told (although I can't guarantee this is 100% correct) that the 15/70 prints have been struck from the raw 4K video master file prior to all the faux film grain being added to make the video projections look like film. This should guarantee the best possible quality along with genuine random film grain that only film can provide. So it ain't all quite as it might seem at first glance... probably!
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yeah but 35mm is film. Blowing it up is another story. Dune was shot digitally.
@@thischannelisdeleted It's the same thing. The goal is to produce the best possible image quality and that is to be applauded. We've finally booked to get into the IMAX to see it.
John.
@@thischannelisdeletedhaving seen a few films shot Digitally and printed to film it actually works. The film element gives it the look and feel of film experiences I had in the 90's. I've also compared to 4K screenings and you can see the difference.
@@davidjames579 I’m sure it adds something to the experience, I’m sure it looks cool, but it’s inauthentic. It’s cheating lol. No different than doing any other post production work. It’s basically a filter at this point. A very good filter but still a filter.