Agreed. But the clickbait gets the clicks. This was a great conversation about the topic in a condensed form. But that won't get people to click on it. You clicked on it to see her 'destroy' the male feminist. As did I. Don't blame the player, blame the game.
he hears the answers, but he didn't listen to them. In one ear, out the other. His whole world view was shattered, and it won't change his opinions for a moment.
Yeah, he wasn't willing to lie or manipulate to give false weight to his discussion points. That's a young man who can learn but when you're surrounded by messaging on all forms of social media (TV drama shows like Eastenders/Coronation Street, morning talk shows) that tries to make you feel you're part of a problem, I can see why it's difficult for some to escape it. Especially in this time with the internet in our pocket and everyone tuning in to potential propaganda material, all day, every day. The spine of society will break when there's no strength to support it.
My personal experience with this is I've worked since highschool as a bluecollar worker, 10 years of an aircraft mechanic and 3 years working as a supply tech to support a base wide fleet. I make decent money with no college degree but have worked my ass off to still not hit 6 figures. My wife on the other hand got her master's in business and is now getting over 100k before her 30's. It's not about gender it's completely based on choices and mindset.
Love how she wasn’t condescending to him and he handled himself in a respectful manner. It would be a better world if more discussions could go this way
@@Devin3Anthologie Absolutely agree. He was outgunned in this discussion, but handled himself very respectfully. I actually was impressed by him that way. Even with all the nonsensical arguments.
@Jenelle Lee They said the study was lazy not him. They apologized when cutting him off. He didn't offer any truth, what do you even mean by that? You may not have liked what they said, but they were stating FACT.
@Jenelle Lee So you still believe that there is this gap? Really?? Either you are afraid to read anything about it, or you obviously were not encumbered by an overwhelming amount of education. And if you paid for your education, I strongly recommend asking for a refund, because you have no idea how statistical data is organized and studied. I'm here because I was fed it on my algorithm, and I was curious as to how some people still believe the gap study BS, which has been debunked many MANY times. Again, they said that the STUDY was LAZY not HIM. Which it is. Do you consider yourself a modern day feminist? Because feminism in this day and age is about a useful as Stephen Hawkins with a dead battery.
Let's see... we have Charlie Kirk and Candence Owens on the same state. Right away you know this will be a discussion filled with LIES. Charlie gets things started when he claims the wage gap does not exist. and then Candence says it does but that women want it that way. What a bunch of RIGHTIE IDIOT BS.
@@aitconcept6041No, I think the beauty in my country is that we're homogenous and we only have our own race, and our nation is our tribe. Diversity is not a strength, unity is a strength. Societies don't fare well when they don't share common mentality and values. Men are drawn to femininity in women, women are drawn to masculinity in men. It's that simple, I don't know what's wrong with you all westerners that can't seem to understand such basic, simple reality. Why does this need to be discussed so extensively? Everyone and their mother knows what draws men to women and vice versa.
Really like the way the guy asking the questions wasn’t getting triggered and was just probing for information even if he didn’t agree with the answers, this is how we should all behave, we are not going to agree with each other all the time but it’s really important to be able to communicate in a decent and respectful way.
That was actually done in textile mills in Scotland. As the looms became more sophisticated, the patterns being woven became more intricate and the fact that women generally have smaller hands made them more desirable workers. Plus, the women could legally be paid less. This policy worked out pretty terribly for families: unemployed depressed men at home, infants not adequately nourished because their mothers worked all day.
It depends what kind of job needs to be done. Women are great in many things but when it comes to engineering and design men in general often are more creative.
Exactly the question I ask Enabler which never has an answer coming back. If the so called wage gap was really a thing. If companies could legit get away with paying women 20% less for the same job you wouldn't see a single unemployed women in the country. Companies would obviously view it as a monetary penalty to hire a man and we ALL know that making money is the main driving factor for companies.
As a girl majoring in computer science, I can tell you that the gender pay gap is not real. I am literally the only girl (CS major) out of 50 men graduating this spring. Women typically just don't choose these higher paying jobs, which is fine.
Computer science is lacking more females, in mine we graduated 3 ladies out of 50.. and most times I have been the only females in my teams at work.. I'm proud of my achievements but I get even more excited when a new female joins the engineering team at work..
@@mgn3618 it’s not „lacking”. It’s just that we should encourage more female IT specialists, because women can have a different opinion on some subject and in the end it might make the things we make more customer-friendly, for example
@@Infectd i, as a programmer myself, am actively trying to convince some of my female friends to pursue this line of work. Even if not strictly as a programmer, then at least on the creative level
Candace Owens is absolutely brilliant. I agree with everything she said. But society is trying to destroy it. Don’t let them. Thank you Candace for talking logically and beautifully. 😊
As a woman with an engineering degree, I COMPLETELY agree with Charlie and Candace. Women absolutely have different interests than men, typically. There’s nothing wrong with that. I don’t want forced equity of representation in my field of women and men because that means we will be working with less-capable people. Interest is a real factor in this discussion and people should be left to make that decision. Don’t force equity, let equality do what it does!
Just anecdotally, I knew a couple of women who studied engineering but they were a tiny percentage of the class and the guys weren't really listening to them. One ended up transferring, the other got a placement but the others just kept saying "it's because you're a girl" (nope her marks were top of the class). Is that something that happens when you studied, or were those guys just assholes making it difficult?
I’m a woman with no kids. My coworkers with kids take off a lot of time for their kids. They get sick etc. I make way more money than my coworkers...they are all good moms and that is their priority. You can’t have it both ways.
There is a pastor, voddie baucham that has said many times in his sermons that you can't have it both ways. He said he once met a couple of college students that believed they could be doctors and lawyers and moms on top of that. It's like people don't stop and do the math lol.
Jade, you're telling it like it is. I've seen women take off several years to raise young kids, and then when they re-enter the workforce 3-4, 5 years later, her coworkers that have been working that entire time with raises are obviously making more than she is. It's illogical and completely unfair for liberals to now classify this woman as " someone doing the same job as her male counterparts for less pay". What a crock.
Jade that is the great lie told by the feminists is that you can be a company CEO "and" mom of the year at the same time. Now I'm sure there are a few super women out there that can actually do that but that is NOT your normal outcome. Odds are much greater that it turns out exactly as you are describing. You make your choices in life and live with those choices not sit on the side lines bitching about how you want to have your cake and eat it too.
I love how professional and respectful the guy was that came up. Takes balls, poise, and compassion to do it the way he did. His mind will change eventually as he lives more life.
My hubs lost his job when our son was only a month old and it wasn’t until another 7 months until he found another job. So he stayed home with the baby while I went back to work full time. It was unbelievably hard on both of us. I wanted to be home with my baby and he wanted to feel like he was providing for the family. We struggled every day to make it work because it’s what we HAD to do but when we have the option to choose, I choose to stay at home and he was back at work getting over time every week. And I regret nothing. We are so much happier now that we are in roles that suit us as a man and woman. Some behaviors and inclinations are 110% biologically ingrained and to deny that is to deny who you are which will lead you into a life of misery or unfulfillment.
As a stay-at-home mom with a breadwinner husband, I can't imagine that. I'd be miserable - not to mention not making nearly enough money to support a household, as I'm "uneducated" and mostly unskilled. I love being able to stay home with our kids! And it's very weird that to a lot of people, that makes me a misogynist... xD
Anybody who claims to be a good parent, will put their own comfort and dreams second to their children's. It is almost always best for the child to be raised with a mother in the house and a father who teaches them that going to work everyday is a good thing.
This is an amazing panel. I am not eloquent enough or educated enough to take part, but this totally resonates with how I feel and belief. You can’t argue nature and logic.
I don’t think he was DESTROYED, though I know y’all love a good title. He looked genuinely open to dialogue and said thank you. I think this was a good conversation imo
this was one the better people to debate to ,because he was actually willing to listen to and not just shout and scream and say random big words like "PATRIARCHY", he had his own thoughts and meant to be a meaningful way, agreeing or not is a different thing but he was very polite and respectful
the correct meaning of the word argument. I watched one yesterday and I'm sorry but the woke arsehole just didn't like phrasing but agreed the argument was the truth ...
@@paulmorgan8254 i don't usually watch debates but I'm glad the platforms are there for people to raise questions and see other sides. This headline 'destroyed' is just to get clicks.
@@daviesdavies538 I don't know, I would say destroyed was quite accurate. They proved him wrong with factual evidence and examples, they changed his way of thinking for at least a split second, and even had him agreeing with a number of things they were saying. The only thing that didn't happen was everyone involved didn't get aggressive ( not that it's needed), but the word destroyed would imply some kind of aggressive demolition of someone in this case.
@@atedinahalf6288 ffs I never said destroying HIM, I said destroying his argument. The amount of people who you have to explain this too😫😫. I swear people see the word destroy and automatically just think it's relating to a personal attack on someone.
When I met my wife she was earning £35,000 in a privately funded biomedical engineering laboratory. She hated the office politics, long hours and stressful deadlines. A few years later when she was offered £43,000 to head a department, she declined and instead took a non-managerial job in an NHS funded hospital with set hours, for HALF THE SALARY, because she wanted us to start a family and not wait any longer. I now out-earn her by almost 80% because I stayed in the same job, work long, unsociable hours and overtime. We 're both perfectly happy and I can guarantee you, if someone turned around and told my wife she needs to go back to her stressful job 'to even out the gender wage gap' she'd tell them to fuck right off and that raising our son is far more important to her, and part of doing that correctly, is NOT being mentally and physically exhausted and miserable at work. My wife has a PhD in her field and told me when we first started getting serious, that if I ever make enough money to support us as a family with children, she'd happily quit her career to raise our kids and take care of the household. I used to be a feminist, until I met my wife ;-)
Let's not say that this man was destroyed, let's commend him for being reasonable and trying to actually debate a subject. Though he did get schooled and probably learned something or changed some of his opinions. We need more of this.
No when you are told the facts that completely demolish your narrative and you STILL stick to your narrative that isn't what I call being "reasonable". More like being sycophantic.
Couldn't agree more @ Pat C , that's the some conservatives ,that's if they are actually conservative or just white supremacist groups disguised as conservative infiltrating the conservatarians and true patriot values . If we don't contend with these group of people internally they will paint the picture of conservatives as dictatorial powers hungry religious fanatics .
Exactly. If a women with Master's in "gender studies" complain about pay gap with compare to a man with Master's in organic chemistry, that's called stupidity. You simply can't compare price of orange and potato. 😅
@@pixietwitch *Well, the only solution is to dismantle and burn down the Lexus dealership so we can reach full equity! Because its not fair that other people have one and I dont!* *"Every Lexus every town tear the building to the ground."* *-[Im kidding RUclips & NSA, this is just a joke]-* 😄
This is very well worded and something I myself have explained to people when they bring this "issue" up. People are very quick to read a tag line or hear one bit of data and run with it, without investigating or simply reading a bit more. Love this video.
We need more discourse exactly like this. There were moments where you see the guy get fidgety in disagreement or maybe not understanding where Candace and the rest were coming from, but you can tell he was generally interested in what they had to say and wanted to possibly learn from their answer
this is my guess and its that feminazis are mainly man haters and very self obsessed meaning they think they are always correct so they therefore project their opinions onto other women thinking because they are the same biologically therefore it must bean they are similar ethically
@@gregdunn401 There's a word for that, and that is narcissistic. A narcissistic person thinks they are always right, and will never admit they are wrong. It's always someone else's fault.
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I love Candance Owens. I have my first child and I'm so glad to see how my wife takes care of my son. I see how we complement each other and how my dear son needs a father and a mother. There's no substitute for that, and there's nothing better than that.
I love how she describes our relationships as a yin and yang... it is so true. It's why as a man I married a woman, and I choose to spend nearly all my time with her. I have a purpose to support and love her, to protect and provide. She equally is able to care for me, and provide a nurturing environment, filled with love. Am I better then her, absolutely not!! We are equal but we are different. When you bring us together though we are capable of so much more then if we were alone.
I'm teaching my daughter that she can achieve whatever she wants to achieve through her own dedication and hard work. She doesn't need to be constrained by this gender pay gap nonsense. This is something weak minded people use to excuse their own inadequacy. They drift through school, get some low-skilled job that pays nothing much, and then complain that society is to blame. People need to take responsibility for their own choices.
Girls in school actually grade higher in all subjects in all years now.. I really hope you’re aware of how misogynistic this world is and actually give your daughter the guidance she needs and not just acting like some cool red puller male. I have been paid less than a man for doing the exact same job. It truely exists.
I think the drifting through school thing is likely not true, tonnes of girls doing much better then boys in schools at least when I was in school but it just comes down to what women choose to do after school that might affect the pay gap so I agree there.
@@XxxX-wx3er I hope you realize how misandrist this world is. There’s a reason the girls grade higher in all subjects. I had teachers that told me that girls were smarter than boys and that boys were stronger. Then she would say the girls could be as strong as boys. I have been paid less for doing the same job as a woman. I hope you raise your children to not be misogynists or misandrists. You should listen to what Candace was saying again.
@@XxxX-wx3er not in any western country would you have been paid less than a man for doing the same job unless you did it to a) a lower standard, b) did less work, c) worked less hours or d) had been in post less time because in the uk had the equal pay act of 1970 and something similar before that, the US had the fair labour standards act which was put to bill in 63 and the various eu countries varied between the 60s and 90s. all these laws made it illegal for 2 people to be paid different for doing the same job working the same hours and working to the same standards with the same qualifications. also FYI if it was legal for women to be paid 20% less than men to do the same job there would not be a single man hired in place of a woman its basic business and profit margins
Outstanding job you guys. You stayed firm and made it very clear what is important and has always been important in human history. These things are key to our survival.
When I was in college, I was studying environmental sciences, and I received a grant (quite a decent amount of money) just for being a woman in science! Pay gap isn't real, simple. You get paid for the job you do, not your gender.
@@keithshaw2269 I didn't end up going into the field I studied. All I can tell you is what we were told, and the pay was equal for women and men. BUT in the course itself, there were more opportunities for women (it was environmental sciences, 4 years, with engineering math) and incentives for women to continue within the program versus what they gave men. Women would receive credits and grants to buy different items, more advanced items for the course, but the men would not. Very unfair.
@@RJ1999x I'm in university and I'm barely holding on to my last shreds of sanity. I definitely get it LOL. The lies and propaganda professors tell is even worse than people know, we just can't leak any of it due to legal red tape around lecture content.
@@RJ1999x Apologies in advance for my long spiel here. To answer briefly: psychology; counselling psychology. I've taken more neuroscience courses out of pure interest, so I think I have a unique perspective for someone in my position. In my opinion, the entire field of psychology in every part of the West is scientifically compromised and is largely about politics and social justice. Hell, my sighted career actually lists having a social justice orientation as a prerequisite for accreditation. I try to speak out online because there's not much else I can do. For example, my professors are no longer teaching cognitive sex differences properly (i.e., they just tell you to read your textbook and won't talk on it). I found this clip interesting because it really highlights that war going on in the field on the topic. We KNOW cognitive sex differences are strongly supported--the convincing research is widely available--but people try to hide it. The entire subfield of evolutionary psychology is under attack by insidious political actors for similar reasons. What bothers me most though is the political discrimination. Ideology is put not only before the science, but before the patient. So much so that I believe our field is now unable to properly treat conservative/republican clients who need talk therapy. At least on the whole, good individual therapists still make it through. Very unethical stuff going on in general.
There was a study years ago, the question asked was " If your family was around the campfire and a wolf pops up, what would you do? The women said they would grab the children and run. The men said, grab a log from the fire and stand your ground."
I wish people were as respectful as that gentleman asking questions. What a great discussion without yelling screaming or name calling. Just people having a discussion.
He doesn't realize it but towards the end, he is asking do you think it's desirable to give people freedom or tiranically decide for them with quotas by gender. Great conversation.
@@edenbreckhouse except those that try it are treated like shit. People should be able to do any job they are capable of doing and getting paid the same for doing it. Should a male nurse make less money than a female nurse since nursing is a traditionally female occupation?
@@cathyyoung3285 "People should be able to do any job they are capable of doing and getting paid the same for doing it." Yes. And they do. That's the ENTIRE point of the video.
I worked in a large dental office that was equally mixed male and female employees. What I observed was the women who had children complained at the end of the night when asked to stay for over time, but the men with children accepted the overtime without complaint. Both wanted to provide for their families, but both did so in different ways. The mother's said they needed to be home to provide for the children, the men wanted to stay at work longer to bring more money to provide for their family's.
@@drnastyful Sorry to be curt but you appear to be the one who would say "Why aren't you earning more money as it's hard to live on your wage and when that person works overtime etc or works 2 jobs you would say" Why do you spend so much time away from the family. You do not care about us only money". Nothing will satisfy you as you always want something else/more etc. But in reality if there was actually a gender pay gap of the % which was stated NO man would have a job anywhere. Every employer would have an entire workforce of women. Which company will pay up to 19% extra to a man when he could pay 19% less to a woman and get the same work done. Just shows you the pay gap is agenda not factually driven.
I wouldn’t consider that complaining. I don’t have children but I’m still not working overtime. I have other priorities and interest outside of work. Companies love to make employees feel indebted even though the employees have fulfilled their work obligations.
I love the presence of mind of the speakers. Beautiful. I'm a man, a combat veteran, and retired first responder, 26 years. I so fondly recall my ER conversations with the lady nurses, in all the hospitals I''ve showed up in, during the course of duty. We were all on the same page, We got it. We are different, as men and women, and it's a good thing. Back then, working, It was, if your house is on fire, or under attack, I'm coming in to protect you, with strength and speed. Later on, if I make it through but have a scrape, you will patch me up in the ER. Celebrate innate gifts. Men at their best are protectors. Women at their best are nurturers, AND protectors.
Do you think maybe it’s because females are socialised differently from a young age? Also why are caring roles lower paid? We applaud nurses, why won’t be pay them properly? Teaching is a very important job, why is that not a higher paid? They are not easy jobs.
@@squatchie3074 Because they're easier degrees. If they want to get paid more, become a professor or a doctor or a pharmacist. Yes, nurses, teachers etc. work hard and are essential, but you can't argue that they are easier to achieve. Brick layers work hard, should we pay them 6 figures? That's your logic.
The crazy part about this is that this myth has been known for 50 years and yet some people still believe it. It's honestly more foolish to believe in than a flat earth at this point.
There are people in this world who think that getting a simple hand x-ray to check for a fracture will give them cancer from radiation poisoning and decay and they will die a horrible death and they say no to the doctor. Of course some people will believe this myth lol.
I appreciate this guy having the backbone to walk up and have the discussion. I see him trying to argue to try and change the instinctual actions that men and women tend to take. It seems this guy, probably from being "educated", can't bring himself to accept those biological drives as an ok thing. This is why he is arguing that we should attempt to force a change against that biological drive. Problem is, if you force that, you will inevitably make people unhappy on a large scale. Men will, generally, not feel fulfilled or challenged as much as a pre-school teacher, and women will feel they are missing out on being able to nurture if they are forced in to a world of numbers, statistics, and spreadsheets. Key word being "forced".
Couldn't agree more with the last statement Candice made about women and children. At 20 with my first child I was a complete IDIOT, my wife (18 years old) was like an old pro. She was amazing!!
On one hand I want to give Candance props, but on the other hand all she had to do is speak obvious common sense to highlight a reality that we’ve all understood for centuries! Only over the last 10 years or so has such confusion polluted our culture
You should give her props, and in a day and age where most people get their information from social media, to a lot of people it’s not obvious and sense is not a common thing.
I think it's been going on since the 70s and 80s but it's just gotten much worse in the last ten years. It might have started getting a little better in the 90s though. My impression was that it didn't feel like such a taboo to care for the home and kids full time (for those who could afford to have one income). I think it was more of a taboo in the 70s and 80s, but that's just my impression. I remember when I was a child in the 70s my mom started feeling like she wasn't as valuable a person not having a job outside the home (I mean she told me that later, when I was older), because the whole feminism thing was making her feel that way. But really, a lot of people have meaningless menial jobs, or are involved in the corporate ladder when they could be teaching and loving their kids more and making the home a comfortable place to be. I never got married or had kids, but the latter, as a woman, sounds better to me.
It is also a skill to present your arguments in a life conversation in a structured factual way that not everyone can do even if the stance is common sense.
There’s hope for this young man. He wasn’t entitled or disrespectful. Seemed like a solid dude. Articulate and receptive. Willing to admit certain things that contradict his views. Respect.
@@jansmitowiczauthor78 That literally proves women are different from men. She used facts with anecdotes and feelings. The guy on the left I think Charlie something used more facts.
Hahahahahaha. Her answer is basically well girls just like fashion I have an anecdote to support this. You must be insane to think that is facts and logic. I bet you did not even research the gender pay gap once (and yes there is a difference between adjusted and unadjusted gender pay back and one does have to consider all the statistically relevant factors, but a small percentage of worse payment for women remains), but you believe every stupid thing Candice simply claims. Guys like you really are the "critical thinkers" the world needs.
She used anecdotes, but there are countless studies that support what she says. She desperately needs to learn the studies behind this if she wants to speak with any authority. David Buss's research and his introductory textbook on evolutionary psychology is a great start toward understanding male and female cognitive differences. They exist scientifically and cross-culturally. Undeniable evidence for things pointing toward male hunting and female gathering specialties (mental rotation tasks, etc.) and women being better nurturers (being able to understand infant expressions and needs much better than men). Ignore anyone who says that it's false, there is 0 support for cognitive sex differences NOT existing. Don't trust Candace fully either, she doesn't understand the research on more than a second-hand, abstract level. But the research itself is undeniable in its strength, and social constructivism (believing that most differences between people are due to environment) is a dying paradigm in the field of psychology. People are just clinging to it for political ideology reasons.
It’s not about “shutting people down” ffs 🤦♂️ That’s no way to get people to listen. We don’t overcome extremism and stupidity by being extreme and stupid. I don’t think this guy even said he was a male feminist and he took everything on-board that was being said. It’s almost like he just wanted to hear their take on things. It was a good interaction and he wasn’t resistant or snarky because he probably agreed with them
As a woman, I am more incline to care for all kids even though I am good in engineering and math. Most of my female friends are not interested in math and engineering. Even though I am love engineering, I still see more men at work are more into it than me. They spend extra time after work learning more different things while I tend to want to spend time with my kids once I get home.
That's me as a man. I would've loved to be a stay-at-home dad. Though being a man, I felt obligated to have summer jobs and second jobs and eventually into school admin to make more money for my fam. Strong sense of the gatherer mentality but feel the most comfy with my compassionate/empathetic side.
That's what I always found completely evident: the differences in interests. In any engineering class, the few female students are usually better students during the first year or two, but during breaks you'll see the boys talking about all kind of things related to that career but not necessarily the topics that they're seeing in class at the moment, just because they're passionate about it. You'll never find a group of women having a technical talk about some engineering or science entirely out of interest.
I am a stay at home dad. I am retired Army and have health issues that are preventing me from working. My wife and I have switched roles recently and it's hard on both of us. I could work 20 hour days multiple times a week and besides fatigue it was pretty easy. My kids spend most of the day at school and it's a struggle for me to do these easy task at home, the house keeping task. My wife works part time and it rough for her at work, but then she comes home and whips out the house keeping task with what seems like no effort. Men and women are not the same, no matter how much it's pushed. We are creating some confused young adults.
"it's better if the man just leaves and let the woman take care of the child because it's like she's has a second child". Lol actually burst out laughing at that
As a female working in Real estate, I didn’t not get paid different to men in real estate. When I moved into finance, I was not paid less than male colleagues in finance. When I climbed the corporate hierarchy, I earns more than many men That didn’t work as hard. What gender pay gap? Unless you mean I should take offence at Elon Musk, earning more than me, I mean that is just wrong right? Or are you saying that everyone, regardless of their choices, intellect and efforts they exert, there should be a standardised pay… no ifs or buts. Wow … do you even believe in a communist society where the state assign labour and wages, there isn’t a political or social class structure where people are ‘assigned’ more than others? You reap what you sow and you live by the choices you make in life. Equal opportunity is real, and it is here. If you want equal outcome, think about that for a moment, when everyone is equally poor, what then?
I spent a lot of time working in the ex USSR, that's not how communisms works. Put simply some people are a lot more equal than others, and they benefit a lot more as well.
Sophie don't kid yourself on the insanity of the left as far as pay inequality goes. They actually said this inflation explosion we are going through is a "good" thing because it lowered pay inequality. Yeah by making people MORE poor. This is their end goal is to be financially like the communists. A ton of dirt poor people and a few elites.
@@aussietruckphotosandmodels8510 I can only be glad I never lived in a communist country, but from my readings of China after their civil war, the communist party did assign people to their ‘forever jobs’ … of course the party members assumed governing roles and those that were close to the party got better jobs than others. State directed or state owned entities did come with wages set by the state. I’m not sure which part of my statement was incorrect, perhaps it’s not the only truth.. Vietnamese, USSR, North Korea would each have their differences but essentially it is the people vs the people in power.
I worked on engine assembly line on mahindra tractors. We have 1200 work force on the line. Only one girl out of 1200 workers worked on engine leakage detection station which was fully automated. No manual labor required.
From my personal experience, this is true. My wife originally wanted to be a pediatrician. She was about to go to medical school. She actually chose instead to be a stay at home mother to our children. She wasn’t forced in any way. The pregnancy wasn’t an accident. It was her choice and I supported it. Women have the right to choose their career path. Simple as that
Unfortunately, not exactly but sort of. Their alternative is to force companies and departments in the public sector to hire women regardless if they're fit for the job or not. Lots of instances where employers were forced to accommodate women, for instance a fire department that had to lower the bar on the physical admission test, just so that a woman could pass it so that they would be allowed to hire her, or women working in constructions (a really tough industry even for the men) not being able to keep up with their male colleagues, resulting in the men picking up the slack. It's stupid and desgusting.
I adore this conversation and while I agree with the panel … I am proud of the gentleman asking the questions…disagreeing but respectful and LISTENED! Both parties listened. Lovely exchange
I don't agree with the man, but I think he's really brave. It seems to me that English isn't his first language, and he was confident enough to argue a complicated topic in English in front of a crowd of people.
but he still went in to a battle unprepared......these four people live by facts, and facts will sink or save.....everything else was fine....a debate is a war of facts....he did not have any to change the my mind.....
I agree. Now I cant stand liberals and democrats but sometimes I have to remind myself that these people are controlled by the media and just dont know.. Any time they google any information to research they get democrat news for the first 20-30 links shown.. Just test this by typing trump in on google or youtube and find nonstop negative links on him which are all democrat. Trumps livestreams would have 100mill+ views on right side broadcasting networks channel and if you type "Trump" on youtube you get all hit videos on him by democrats and probably wont even find those rallies till you type it in. This guy isnt the dress wearing crazy liberal where facts mean nothing.. He can "Learn" and change imo atleast I hope.
@@JonSmith-cx7gr he is not a moron. He was articulate and respectful but ignorant. Ignorance does not make you stupid, it merely limits the conclusions you can derive from the data you have. He did a cursory search and received poor information which naturally led him to a conclusion contrary to the truth. The panel educated him and he was willing to listen, question, and interact with them. That is not a moron. People CAN look at the same data and draw different conclusions. It is even possible for BOTH conclusions to be correct to some degree. Stop calling people who simply have a different opinion "morons" when they show they are willing to actually respectfully debate.
When I was a university student, my girlfriend lived in a sorority house. Every single woman in her house was majoring in fashion and merchandising, education, nursing, sociology, family development, hospitality management services, etc. One woman in her whole house majored in wildlife biology and she became a Vet. Lol. Go figure. They all were dying to get married too.
there was destruction there, everyone was very respectful all the way around. I loved the dude that asked the questions, his mind wasn't closed off, he presented his argument, compared their rebuttal to the information he had, and absorbed new information. I wish more people were like him when talking.
When I was a senior nurse, we male nurses tended to do all the heavy lifting [as a lot of the females where either lazy/faked bad backs or where pregnant] and repairing equipment etc. The pregnant one's [their choice] would be off for nearly a year [also with sickness before the event too] and I [we] had to cover their shifts a lot of the time. When they came back, they had priority over me [us] for holidays [when to take them], when they have just been off for a year [as they were still entitled to their leave] and I had worked over my hours to cover for the ward! So glad I left that profession [after 26 years] and went into transport, now retired.
Men and women have all sorts of advantages and disadvantages in every area of life but I’d never want to switch out and pretend to be a woman no matter how much time off it would get me
That’s everywhere where’s there’s heavy lifting to my understanding. Now I don’t recommend lifting more than you can or even attempting but women get away with not really doing any lifting Then wanna argue you down about this and that knowing they are getting the same pay for less work.
Pretty funny that when Candace destroyed his wage gap myth and then said the word "BIOLOGICALLY" Pepe Le Pue was guaranteed to be triggered into another failed debate with her. Hilarious
@@portobelloedinburgh8891 did she. With the when I was in college all the girls were doing fashion is hardly what you would call a well researched debunk. The funny thing I saw was the grifter kirk say it doesn't exist the owens say oh I get a better answer we say it does exist but we will undermine it. Shouldn't kirk have pushed his argument more or are they all in on the grift? They can't both be right.
@@tonyclifton2230 if you didn't already know the wage gap is a falsehood myth then..... She's squashed this topic about 1000 times with facts so I'm sure she's gotten tired of using facts with clueless ppl who hate hearing facts & stats and resorted to using a more simple approach. Sadly neither of you comprehended that one either.
@@portobelloedinburgh8891 candice and facts do not correlate very well. So your point is she is tired in using facts in her speech so she dumbed it down for us dumb dumbs. Remember when she was working on degree 180 rejoicing in the downfall of the tea party and their crazy antics. I know it was a whole 6 years ago. Was she using facts then or is this a new thing with the facts. For her and kirk this is all a grift.
I liked that the questioner wasn't absolutely RIGID in his beliefs as so many are. He was perhaps somewhat reluctant to accept some points yet he displayed a willingness and openness to listen with civility and respect. Pretty refreshing after seeing so many of these videos.
It was refreshing….but then you read the hateful comments from threatened little beta males who attack him cos he represents the part of themselves they despise 😂😂😂. He looks to me as though he actually agreed with them 👏
She was right over all (if her sources are true), except when she say « its a biological issue », because a lot of our center of interest dont forcely come only from biology, they also come from social construction in education
The ending was the best....sometimes moms get beat up by everyone but we need to pat ourselves on the back! We do know how to take care of things, when our kids are sick, everything....hell even help the men find their wallets and keys....yin and yang of our relationship is beautiful
Absolutely. I don't know what I would do without my wife. She fills in everything that I'm lacking and I fill in everything she is lacking. Made by God for each, when you obey God in a spousal relationship, it's a beautiful thing. I've been married 18 years and I can't wait to spend the rest of my life with her. I know my kids see that too. I feel there is no man who loves a woman more than I love my wife and she matches my love for her with her love for me.
True that. As a man I know my own strengths working under high pressure in my industry but I can't help marvel when a woman innately knows how to crack the code when it comes to sorting out a home or managing kid shenanigans.
@@Iron-Bridge women are amazing when they are allowed to be women. Same goes for men. Being retired is nice, but at my age, I feel incomplete not working, especially since I had been working full time since 14. I'm sure my wife feels the same not being home. I know not everyone is the same, but for us we have fulfilled the traditional roles as man a woman because that is who we are. Be you and let me be me. These progressives are so hypocritical.
“Do you think society should be like this?” Yes. I believe we should have a society where men and women get to pursue their individual interests. The alternative is forcing people into things they don’t want and don’t gravitate toward. What we see, as mentioned in the Scandinavian counties is that when you minimize external forces such as social or financial pressures to go a certain path, the biological differences maximize and become dominant. This is where the left trips on itself. As this guy was willing to acknowledge, when pushed they will agree there is some biological input. They will reasonably claim it is minor. But what they fail to grasp is that when you eliminate everything else, the major, or only, effect is the biological.
I enjoy these conversations. As a person with a Master's Degree in the Finance area, I keep finding one statistic missing from all of these discussions and likely has been missed (either purposefully or accidentally) that would DRAMATICALLY alter the narratives: of the wages earned, who is in direct benefit and/or control of that wage, regardless of who earned it? This is looked at in Sales and Marketing as this matters around the idea of disposable income (statistics of who purchases the majority of goods and services used by disposable income). Women in America, regardless of who earns the wage, are in the highest direct benefit and/or control of all wages earned when you include alimony and child support and wages men earn in a marriage that has the direct benefit and/or control of the wife. The figures of this would put American women in direct benefit and control of over 80% of all wages earned after taxes (taxes alone would be around 20% of wages earned), regardless of who earns the wage. Estimates would be more accurate if these types of statistics were more readily available. The women who get nothing from their ex's and baby-fathers are by far the exception and not the rule. Start looking at who the CONSUMER is in this discussion, not the producer of the wage. That will clear up a lot of confusion. Just food for thought.
As someone who holds your masters in finance, do you think the US government will ever be able to bring back the gold standard? Or back our dollar with a commodity? Figured I'd pick you brain if that's okay
@@1-501Infantry i'm not OP, but i'm pursuing a bachelor's in finance, so i'll try to answer your question as best as i can. going back to a gold standard would pose several issues, which makes it undesirable for most world leaders. in order to revert back to the gold standard, all liabilities would have to be repaid in hard cash or negotiated. this can be done, as it has been done in the past by other nations, but it was never done by a welfare state such as the United States nor by a nation with such a large national debt. i'll just say that it could happen, but we are certainly not financially sound enough yet.
@@1-501Infantry this may sound odd, but I think we are headed in to realm of block chain currency. This may work better for us if the block chains can be based on emerging energy technologies that re likely more green and can take over for fossil fuel in the future when that is no longer an option for global commercial use. Just my two cents based on the next 30 years and what might happen in that time
Exactly. Which would be horrifically inefficient. We would have women struggling to carry people out of burning buildings, and tall, powerful, testosterone filled men teaching Kindergarten class. Lovely.
@@justinmadrid8712 It amazes me that people cannot look at history where communist governments have tried to force jobs and see how badly it turned out. Like when the Chinese decided to dictate that farmers should go work in steel and iron mills while taking other people who weren't farmers and making them farmers. This combined with some shoddy farming practices and bad governance led to the Great Chinese Famine. That cost the lives of somewhere between like 10 to 55 million Chinese lives.
My wife worked for a finance company, and I was a lorry driver, she earned a lot more than me. I worked 50 to 60 hours a week, she worked 37 hours a week.
I am grateful that this nice young guy is willing to sit through this and to greet the opposite argument with respect and even good humor. I wish discussions could always be so sensible. Also: Candace just rocks 😉
The problem is that he thinks money is the most important measurement of success. So everyone should aspire to have more money and if you have less you are somehow a failure. If we forced all women to go into STEM, and 90% of them were well-off but miserable, would that be a fair society? In my dumb youth I also thought more women should study engineering. Then I realized that I could've studied it, but I don't want to be an engineer. As a rule we value different things. If a woman wants to be an engineer and is capable of doing it, all power to her. Even with the argument that teachers should be paid more - maybe they should, but their jobs have other perks that money can't buy. I think we should realize that there is balance to everything and money isn't te only measurement we should use to see if a society is "just".
The reason why a wealth gap is problematic isn't because of a measure of success, but because we live in a system where money creates opportunity so if we have women having less wealth than men, they have less opportunity and power than men
Excellent points by Candace and Charlie. I just wish they would reference these studies properly in the 'More Info' sections, so people can go and read the cited reports for themselves.
I'm in love with these two women. They know how to think for themselves, can formulate an argument, and still be respectful. That is a beautiful thing.
This is how discussion should be ,ask questions ,agree or disagree respectfully and This was not destroying it was just telling the facts the way they are.
I will be 47 years old this year. I've been a professional software engineer since I was 18. In 29 years in the field, would anyone like to guess how many female software engineers I've worked with? 0. A big, fat, goose egg. They do exist, so I'm told, but they're rare. Not because woman are bad at it, nor because anyone is telling they can't or shouldn't. I don't know the reason why, other than to say that their interests lie elsewhere. The IT field has been begging for more women for years, and I think a few more are entering the field these days, but they're still few and far between. I don't understand what's so wrong with women typically not wanting to join these fields. Stop trying to guilt women into doing things they don't want to do.
Notice how he mentioned " there are definitely studies" without mentioning the study,yet, as soon as the panel say it is not true,he wants to know, what study? they do not practise what they preach.
Check out David Buss's work and his introductory text on evolutionary psychology. Countless strong, cross-cultural studies support the existence of cognitive sex differences, such as hunting/gathering specialties (e.g., mental rotation tasks) and women as better nurturers (e.g., how women are shown to be better at reading and understanding infant emotions and needs than men). There is 0 scientific support for cognitive sex differences NOT existing, beyond the theoretical level.
he did try to say the names of the studies. He gone one of them out. How can you fault this guy for not saying enough when 4 people are debating him at the exact same time?
exactly.....the old liberal standby is to never include details on their bullshit claims, but then to demand you produce chapter and verse on the spot of your claims.
@@pineappleparty1624 first, he didn't have to ask a question, it was his choice, and he knew he was addressing the whole panel. Second, I imagine when you are one of these panelists and you hear this libtard parroting all of the liberal myths that have all been debunked, it's hard to stay quiet.
The guy is French, I can tell by his accent (being born in France too) and in France there is that notion that you let the other speak so you can hear what his arguments are, even if you completely disagree with him or her.
I love Candice's poetic description... About the symbiosis of men and women! It is so true! We should Rejoice in our differences! And not be forced to be the same bland androgynous nobody...
I'm not trying to be judgmental so please don't take what I say the wrong way, but I think it's sad that society is discussing about the most natural things and that somehow accepting things that are innate to human beings is worthy of praise by other people. I really do and I'm by no means singling you out or trying to disrespecting you or your wife.
I've been driving a truck for over 36 years and have never seen a company that had two pay scales, one for male drivers and one for female. The difference isn't because of sex. It's because of things like the job, experience and ability, as stated in the video.
this was one the better people to debate to ,because he was actually willing to listen to and not just shout and scream and say random big words like"PATRIARCHY", he had his own thoughts and meant to be a meaningful way
I will say, much respect to the male feminist for remaining respectful and also open to hearing and considering other opinions. Good questions from him and good answers from the board.
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Candace didn't destroy him, she taught him, in the gentlest way. No screaming, shouting. This is proper discourse.
Agreed. But the clickbait gets the clicks. This was a great conversation about the topic in a condensed form. But that won't get people to click on it. You clicked on it to see her 'destroy' the male feminist. As did I. Don't blame the player, blame the game.
Destroyed his argument would be more accurate.
@@DrtyFck i clicked on and was scratching my head as to where did she destroy him. It was a respectful discussion, no screaming and hollering.
I preferred Candice’s response compared to the man on to her far right. He was quite rude to the man standing asking questions
he is a nice educated guy from a single parent house looking how his mom working hard so it must be a gender gap
I don't agree with him, but he speaks respectfully and listens to the answers. If only more people were like him in that respect.
He's an idiot. Polite or otherwise.
He wasnt American, thats why.
Both sides responded with respect. More of it.
@@oliphauntsneverlie6227 yeah, pure idiot, really annoyin tho
he hears the answers, but he didn't listen to them. In one ear, out the other. His whole world view was shattered, and it won't change his opinions for a moment.
The young man was polite and not at all aggressive. Now, that kind of a debate I can respect.
That is all his soy talking.
Yeah, he wasn't willing to lie or manipulate to give false weight to his discussion points. That's a young man who can learn but when you're surrounded by messaging on all forms of social media (TV drama shows like Eastenders/Coronation Street, morning talk shows) that tries to make you feel you're part of a problem, I can see why it's difficult for some to escape it. Especially in this time with the internet in our pocket and everyone tuning in to potential propaganda material, all day, every day.
The spine of society will break when there's no strength to support it.
My personal experience with this is I've worked since highschool as a bluecollar worker, 10 years of an aircraft mechanic and 3 years working as a supply tech to support a base wide fleet. I make decent money with no college degree but have worked my ass off to still not hit 6 figures. My wife on the other hand got her master's in business and is now getting over 100k before her 30's. It's not about gender it's completely based on choices and mindset.
...and biology
@@blahblahblah9092 biology drives interest as these panelists have said
Love how she wasn’t condescending to him and he handled himself in a respectful manner. It would be a better world if more discussions could go this way
Right?! I do enjoy a good discussion. People just don't want to agree to disagree nowadays.
@@Devin3Anthologie Absolutely agree. He was outgunned in this discussion, but handled himself very respectfully. I actually was impressed by him that way. Even with all the nonsensical arguments.
I was going to comment on his great behavior, but you said it all for me. 👍
@Jenelle Lee They said the study was lazy not him. They apologized when cutting him off. He didn't offer any truth, what do you even mean by that? You may not have liked what they said, but they were stating FACT.
@Jenelle Lee So you still believe that there is this gap? Really?? Either you are afraid to read anything about it, or you obviously were not encumbered by an overwhelming amount of education. And if you paid for your education, I strongly recommend asking for a refund, because you have no idea how statistical data is organized and studied. I'm here because I was fed it on my algorithm, and I was curious as to how some people still believe the gap study BS, which has been debunked many MANY times. Again, they said that the STUDY was LAZY not HIM. Which it is. Do you consider yourself a modern day feminist? Because feminism in this day and age is about a useful as Stephen Hawkins with a dead battery.
I love how Candace stated at the end how the differences are beautiful, and we need stop trying to destroy it.
Let's see... we have Charlie Kirk and Candence Owens on the same state. Right away you know this will be a discussion filled with LIES. Charlie gets things started when he claims the wage gap does not exist. and then Candence says it does but that women want it that way. What a bunch of RIGHTIE IDIOT BS.
Agreed. I wish there was an equal bit on what’s beautiful with masculinity too. We need BOTH genders I loved this
The besuty is in our differences.. gender, color, tribe, ethnicity..e.t.c
@@aitconcept6041No, I think the beauty in my country is that we're homogenous and we only have our own race, and our nation is our tribe.
Diversity is not a strength, unity is a strength. Societies don't fare well when they don't share common mentality and values.
Men are drawn to femininity in women, women are drawn to masculinity in men. It's that simple, I don't know what's wrong with you all westerners that can't seem to understand such basic, simple reality. Why does this need to be discussed so extensively? Everyone and their mother knows what draws men to women and vice versa.
Really like the way the guy asking the questions wasn’t getting triggered and was just probing for information even if he didn’t agree with the answers, this is how we should all behave, we are not going to agree with each other all the time but it’s really important to be able to communicate in a decent and respectful way.
Finally someone that listened to their side of the debate while actually offering good points
If companies could pay women less than men for the SAME work, they would hire almost no men..
That was actually done in textile mills in Scotland. As the looms became more sophisticated, the patterns being woven became more intricate and the fact that women generally have smaller hands made them more desirable workers. Plus, the women could legally be paid less. This policy worked out pretty terribly for families: unemployed depressed men at home, infants not adequately nourished because their mothers worked all day.
It depends what kind of job needs to be done. Women are great in many things but when it comes to engineering and design men in general often are more creative.
Exactly the question I ask Enabler which never has an answer coming back. If the so called wage gap was really a thing. If companies could legit get away with paying women 20% less for the same job you wouldn't see a single unemployed women in the country. Companies would obviously view it as a monetary penalty to hire a man and we ALL know that making money is the main driving factor for companies.
@@Stubbies2003 This one right here. You start hiring on cup size and fire every last make on staff to make more money.
@@jennifereason1884 why could the women legally be paid less?
As a girl majoring in computer science, I can tell you that the gender pay gap is not real. I am literally the only girl (CS major) out of 50 men graduating this spring. Women typically just don't choose these higher paying jobs, which is fine.
Computer science is lacking more females, in mine we graduated 3 ladies out of 50.. and most times I have been the only females in my teams at work.. I'm proud of my achievements but I get even more excited when a new female joins the engineering team at work..
@@mgn3618 it’s not „lacking”. It’s just that we should encourage more female IT specialists, because women can have a different opinion on some subject and in the end it might make the things we make more customer-friendly, for example
@@XX-si6wz yeah, we should
@@XX-si6wz encouraging something at a social level is world's different than expecting a bunch of politicians to make rules and laws to force it
@@Infectd i, as a programmer myself, am actively trying to convince some of my female friends to pursue this line of work. Even if not strictly as a programmer, then at least on the creative level
Candace Owens is absolutely brilliant. I agree with everything she said. But society is trying to destroy it. Don’t let them. Thank you Candace for talking logically and beautifully. 😊
He didn't destroy him, and he was a very respectable young man
As a woman with an engineering degree, I COMPLETELY agree with Charlie and Candace. Women absolutely have different interests than men, typically. There’s nothing wrong with that. I don’t want forced equity of representation in my field of women and men because that means we will be working with less-capable people. Interest is a real factor in this discussion and people should be left to make that decision. Don’t force equity, let equality do what it does!
Still cool that you are doing engineering. :)
What kind of engineering are you doing?
How much do you make and what state are you in
We can find out if you are getting paid the same and prove that they are lying or not. I should ask when you got hired
Just anecdotally, I knew a couple of women who studied engineering but they were a tiny percentage of the class and the guys weren't really listening to them. One ended up transferring, the other got a placement but the others just kept saying "it's because you're a girl" (nope her marks were top of the class). Is that something that happens when you studied, or were those guys just assholes making it difficult?
I’m a woman with no kids. My coworkers with kids take off a lot of time for their kids. They get sick etc. I make way more money than my coworkers...they are all good moms and that is their priority. You can’t have it both ways.
There is a pastor, voddie baucham that has said many times in his sermons that you can't have it both ways. He said he once met a couple of college students that believed they could be doctors and lawyers and moms on top of that. It's like people don't stop and do the math lol.
Jade, you're telling it like it is. I've seen women take off several years to raise young kids, and then when they re-enter the workforce 3-4, 5 years later, her coworkers that have been working that entire time with raises are obviously making more than she is. It's illogical and completely unfair for liberals to now classify this woman as " someone doing the same job as her male counterparts for less pay". What a crock.
We've had whole generations of young girls being told "You can have it all!" when that's simply not the case.
Jade that is the great lie told by the feminists is that you can be a company CEO "and" mom of the year at the same time. Now I'm sure there are a few super women out there that can actually do that but that is NOT your normal outcome. Odds are much greater that it turns out exactly as you are describing. You make your choices in life and live with those choices not sit on the side lines bitching about how you want to have your cake and eat it too.
True. Same story here.
Video discussions such as this should be played on every college campus and discussed as a matter of academic course.
I love how professional and respectful the guy was that came up. Takes balls, poise, and compassion to do it the way he did. His mind will change eventually as he lives more life.
My hubs lost his job when our son was only a month old and it wasn’t until another 7 months until he found another job. So he stayed home with the baby while I went back to work full time. It was unbelievably hard on both of us. I wanted to be home with my baby and he wanted to feel like he was providing for the family. We struggled every day to make it work because it’s what we HAD to do but when we have the option to choose, I choose to stay at home and he was back at work getting over time every week. And I regret nothing. We are so much happier now that we are in roles that suit us as a man and woman. Some behaviors and inclinations are 110% biologically ingrained and to deny that is to deny who you are which will lead you into a life of misery or unfulfillment.
Bless you and your husband.
As a stay-at-home mom with a breadwinner husband, I can't imagine that. I'd be miserable - not to mention not making nearly enough money to support a household, as I'm "uneducated" and mostly unskilled. I love being able to stay home with our kids! And it's very weird that to a lot of people, that makes me a misogynist... xD
@@evage99 or people say we are brainwashed, sometimes even controlled by our husbands. lol.
Beautifully said. I’d have given my left arm to have gotten to stay home at LEAST a year...😞 But nope. Yay, modern society. 😑
Anybody who claims to be a good parent, will put their own comfort and dreams second to their children's. It is almost always best for the child to be raised with a mother in the house and a father who teaches them that going to work everyday is a good thing.
He seemed like a decent young man that had just been told what to believe for so long, he never questioned it
And the poor guy is destined to go home still believing in "social constructs" and stuff.
Kevin B.....ie, he was brainwashed.
Yep, his world beliefs were turned upside down, he just didn't know
Sounds like my brother who attended bible school
"They're a weak lot in Europe." -Margaret Thatcher
This is an amazing panel. I am not eloquent enough or educated enough to take part, but this totally resonates with how I feel and belief. You can’t argue nature and logic.
I don’t think he was DESTROYED, though I know y’all love a good title. He looked genuinely open to dialogue and said thank you. I think this was a good conversation imo
this was one the better people to debate to ,because he was actually willing to listen to and not just shout and scream and say random big words like "PATRIARCHY", he had his own thoughts and meant to be a meaningful way, agreeing or not is a different thing but he was very polite and respectful
@@avi_innit Agree 💯
No one will click and watch if they say they had a healthy and respectful debate.
I dont think anybody got "destroyed". This was a orderly and intelligent debate being done in a respectful way. We need more debates like this.
the correct meaning of the word argument. I watched one yesterday and I'm sorry but the woke arsehole just didn't like phrasing but agreed the argument was the truth ...
@@paulmorgan8254 i don't usually watch debates but I'm glad the platforms are there for people to raise questions and see other sides. This headline 'destroyed' is just to get clicks.
@@daviesdavies538 I don't know, I would say destroyed was quite accurate. They proved him wrong with factual evidence and examples, they changed his way of thinking for at least a split second, and even had him agreeing with a number of things they were saying. The only thing that didn't happen was everyone involved didn't get aggressive ( not that it's needed), but the word destroyed would imply some kind of aggressive demolition of someone in this case.
@@michaeljones4504 That's not destroying him, she's teaching him.
We all had to wake up at one point.
@@atedinahalf6288 ffs I never said destroying HIM, I said destroying his argument. The amount of people who you have to explain this too😫😫. I swear people see the word destroy and automatically just think it's relating to a personal attack on someone.
When I met my wife she was earning £35,000 in a privately funded biomedical engineering laboratory. She hated the office politics, long hours and stressful deadlines. A few years later when she was offered £43,000 to head a department, she declined and instead took a non-managerial job in an NHS funded hospital with set hours, for HALF THE SALARY, because she wanted us to start a family and not wait any longer.
I now out-earn her by almost 80% because I stayed in the same job, work long, unsociable hours and overtime. We 're both perfectly happy and I can guarantee you, if someone turned around and told my wife she needs to go back to her stressful job 'to even out the gender wage gap' she'd tell them to fuck right off and that raising our son is far more important to her, and part of doing that correctly, is NOT being mentally and physically exhausted and miserable at work.
My wife has a PhD in her field and told me when we first started getting serious, that if I ever make enough money to support us as a family with children, she'd happily quit her career to raise our kids and take care of the household.
I used to be a feminist, until I met my wife ;-)
wow you are a average couple indeed and btw if divorce comes around the corner be happy about your 80% higher salary than her .......
John Smith, great anecdotal recounting of your story, and congrats on getting yourself a great wife!
@@ronyeahright9536 in Foot and Stones........
@@jurgschupbach3059 what part of "we're both perfectly happy" did you miss?
@@dave19328 clairvoyant future bravo do you Voodoo?
They utterly dismantled his entire worldview. Beautiful.
The person who was asking the questions was wonderful. Open for discussion not arguing and hollering..great discussion
Let's not say that this man was destroyed, let's commend him for being reasonable and trying to actually debate a subject. Though he did get schooled and probably learned something or changed some of his opinions. We need more of this.
Definitely. Other people aren’t so respectful. They just try to win by shouting and interrupting.
Indeed! The click bait title was not called for.
No when you are told the facts that completely demolish your narrative and you STILL stick to your narrative that isn't what I call being "reasonable". More like being sycophantic.
The world needs feminist men about as much as it needs Biden to be in charge of the largest military force on the planet.
Couldn't agree more @ Pat C , that's the some conservatives ,that's if they are actually conservative or just white supremacist groups disguised as conservative infiltrating the conservatarians and true patriot values . If we don't contend with these group of people internally they will paint the picture of conservatives as dictatorial powers hungry religious fanatics .
Exactly. If a women with Master's in "gender studies" complain about pay gap with compare to a man with Master's in organic chemistry, that's called stupidity. You simply can't compare price of orange and potato. 😅
More like comparing the prices of an orange and a Lexus.
@@pixietwitch *"But I want you to be forced to sell me the Lexus for the same price as an Orange!"*
@@levelwithz3779 I know! It just isn't fair that a Lexus costs so much more than an orange!
"orange and potato." Is that a Trump/Biden comparison? :)
@@pixietwitch *Well, the only solution is to dismantle and burn down the Lexus dealership so we can reach full equity! Because its not fair that other people have one and I dont!*
*"Every Lexus every town tear the building to the ground."*
*-[Im kidding RUclips & NSA, this is just a joke]-* 😄
This is very well worded and something I myself have explained to people when they bring this "issue" up. People are very quick to read a tag line or hear one bit of data and run with it, without investigating or simply reading a bit more. Love this video.
We need more discourse exactly like this. There were moments where you see the guy get fidgety in disagreement or maybe not understanding where Candace and the rest were coming from, but you can tell he was generally interested in what they had to say and wanted to possibly learn from their answer
Why do “feminists” not understand that the difference between men and women is what makes them attracted to each other?
this is my guess and its that feminazis are mainly man haters and very self obsessed meaning they think they are always correct so they therefore project their opinions onto other women thinking because they are the same biologically therefore it must bean they are similar ethically
@@gregdunn401 There's a word for that, and that is narcissistic. A narcissistic person thinks they are always right, and will never admit they are wrong. It's always someone else's fault.
I love Candance Owens. I have my first child and I'm so glad to see how my wife takes care of my son. I see how we complement each other and how my dear son needs a father and a mother. There's no substitute for that, and there's nothing better than that.
Candice is a beautiful woman, intellectually, spiritually, and physically. We need more like her as a role model for young women to look up to.
Title is a grabber. This was a better exchange of ideas than most. Cheers.
I love how she describes our relationships as a yin and yang... it is so true. It's why as a man I married a woman, and I choose to spend nearly all my time with her. I have a purpose to support and love her, to protect and provide. She equally is able to care for me, and provide a nurturing environment, filled with love. Am I better then her, absolutely not!! We are equal but we are different. When you bring us together though we are capable of so much more then if we were alone.
Don’t worry, millions of us agree with you. In fact, I really appreciate your description.
I love your description 👏👏👏🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
@@tlb2970 thank you, I came up with it on the fly, but just true feelings!
Equal but different.
2+2=4. These people want everyone to be 2s
3+1=4 different and still equal.
@@Zamiroh please disregard my second reply, I totally lost it, thinking of something else sorry
I'm teaching my daughter that she can achieve whatever she wants to achieve through her own dedication and hard work. She doesn't need to be constrained by this gender pay gap nonsense. This is something weak minded people use to excuse their own inadequacy. They drift through school, get some low-skilled job that pays nothing much, and then complain that society is to blame. People need to take responsibility for their own choices.
You couldn't have said it better you nailed it. I agree
Girls in school actually grade higher in all subjects in all years now.. I really hope you’re aware of how misogynistic this world is and actually give your daughter the guidance she needs and not just acting like some cool red puller male. I have been paid less than a man for doing the exact same job. It truely exists.
I think the drifting through school thing is likely not true, tonnes of girls doing much better then boys in schools at least when I was in school but it just comes down to what women choose to do after school that might affect the pay gap so I agree there.
@@XxxX-wx3er I hope you realize how misandrist this world is. There’s a reason the girls grade higher in all subjects. I had teachers that told me that girls were smarter than boys and that boys were stronger. Then she would say the girls could be as strong as boys. I have been paid less for doing the same job as a woman. I hope you raise your children to not be misogynists or misandrists. You should listen to what Candace was saying again.
@@XxxX-wx3er not in any western country would you have been paid less than a man for doing the same job unless you did it to a) a lower standard, b) did less work, c) worked less hours or d) had been in post less time
because in the uk had the equal pay act of 1970 and something similar before that, the US had the fair labour standards act which was put to bill in 63 and the various eu countries varied between the 60s and 90s.
all these laws made it illegal for 2 people to be paid different for doing the same job working the same hours and working to the same standards with the same qualifications.
also FYI if it was legal for women to be paid 20% less than men to do the same job there would not be a single man hired in place of a woman its basic business and profit margins
Outstanding job you guys. You stayed firm and made it very clear what is important and has always been important in human history. These things are key to our survival.
Our society needs more women like Candace!
Why do you have a Croatian emblem mate?
@@ararune3734 It's Moravian
When I was in college, I was studying environmental sciences, and I received a grant (quite a decent amount of money) just for being a woman in science! Pay gap isn't real, simple. You get paid for the job you do, not your gender.
But you did get paid extra for being a woman, tho.
@@keithshaw2269 I didn't end up going into the field I studied. All I can tell you is what we were told, and the pay was equal for women and men. BUT in the course itself, there were more opportunities for women (it was environmental sciences, 4 years, with engineering math) and incentives for women to continue within the program versus what they gave men. Women would receive credits and grants to buy different items, more advanced items for the course, but the men would not. Very unfair.
@@tinyandtattooed nice to see you recognize that.
I don't think she destroyed him, and I don't think he's a feminist, he's just over educated in BS
Over educated in BS, undereducated on the topic of cognitive sex difference research. He seems like a reasonable man though.
@@NightTimeDay I agree, this is what college does to good kids
@@RJ1999x I'm in university and I'm barely holding on to my last shreds of sanity. I definitely get it LOL. The lies and propaganda professors tell is even worse than people know, we just can't leak any of it due to legal red tape around lecture content.
@@NightTimeDay can I ask what you're going for, your end goal?
@@RJ1999x Apologies in advance for my long spiel here. To answer briefly: psychology; counselling psychology. I've taken more neuroscience courses out of pure interest, so I think I have a unique perspective for someone in my position. In my opinion, the entire field of psychology in every part of the West is scientifically compromised and is largely about politics and social justice. Hell, my sighted career actually lists having a social justice orientation as a prerequisite for accreditation. I try to speak out online because there's not much else I can do. For example, my professors are no longer teaching cognitive sex differences properly (i.e., they just tell you to read your textbook and won't talk on it). I found this clip interesting because it really highlights that war going on in the field on the topic. We KNOW cognitive sex differences are strongly supported--the convincing research is widely available--but people try to hide it. The entire subfield of evolutionary psychology is under attack by insidious political actors for similar reasons.
What bothers me most though is the political discrimination. Ideology is put not only before the science, but before the patient. So much so that I believe our field is now unable to properly treat conservative/republican clients who need talk therapy. At least on the whole, good individual therapists still make it through. Very unethical stuff going on in general.
There was a study years ago, the question asked was " If your family was around the campfire and a wolf pops up, what would you do? The women said they would grab the children and run. The men said, grab a log from the fire and stand your ground."
I wish people were as respectful as that gentleman asking questions. What a great discussion without yelling screaming or name calling. Just people having a discussion.
He doesn't realize it but towards the end, he is asking do you think it's desirable to give people freedom or tiranically decide for them with quotas by gender.
Great conversation.
I think we should use force - I'd love to see 50% women on building sites and other hard jobs. After all, they want equality right?
@@edenbreckhouse nah, I want my housing structure to not collapse after 6 months 😂
@@edenbreckhouse except those that try it are treated like shit. People should be able to do any job they are capable of doing and getting paid the same for doing it. Should a male nurse make less money than a female nurse since nursing is a traditionally female occupation?
@@cathyyoung3285 "People should be able to do any job they are capable of doing and getting paid the same for doing it." Yes. And they do. That's the ENTIRE point of the video.
The left leans towards communism.. to make everyone "equal". When in reality people are just diffrent.
I worked in a large dental office that was equally mixed male and female employees. What I observed was the women who had children complained at the end of the night when asked to stay for over time, but the men with children accepted the overtime without complaint. Both wanted to provide for their families, but both did so in different ways. The mother's said they needed to be home to provide for the children, the men wanted to stay at work longer to bring more money to provide for their family's.
Great point!
The guys also just wanted to avoid their family let’s be real
@@drnastyful Sorry to be curt but you appear to be the one who would say "Why aren't you earning more money as it's hard to live on your wage and when that person works overtime etc or works 2 jobs you would say" Why do you spend so much time away from the family. You do not care about us only money". Nothing will satisfy you as you always want something else/more etc.
But in reality if there was actually a gender pay gap of the % which was stated NO man would have a job anywhere. Every employer would have an entire workforce of women. Which company will pay up to 19% extra to a man when he could pay 19% less to a woman and get the same work done. Just shows you the pay gap is agenda not factually driven.
@@saintsone7877 well that was a rollercoaster to read
I wouldn’t consider that complaining. I don’t have children but I’m still not working overtime. I have other priorities and interest outside of work. Companies love to make employees feel indebted even though the employees have fulfilled their work obligations.
I love the presence of mind of the speakers. Beautiful. I'm a man, a combat veteran, and retired first responder, 26 years. I so fondly recall my ER conversations with the lady nurses, in all the hospitals I''ve showed up in, during the course of duty. We were all on the same page, We got it. We are different, as men and women, and it's a good thing. Back then, working, It was, if your house is on fire, or under attack, I'm coming in to protect you, with strength and speed. Later on, if I make it through but have a scrape, you will patch me up in the ER. Celebrate innate gifts. Men at their best are protectors. Women at their best are nurturers, AND protectors.
This is the type of discussion that is more desirable than "destroying" your opponent.
It's very surprising that modern feminist just ignore the fact that college doesn't control what courses they choose to take
Ha ha ha Exactly !!!!
Do you think maybe it’s because females are socialised differently from a young age? Also why are caring roles lower paid? We applaud nurses, why won’t be pay them properly? Teaching is a very important job, why is that not a higher paid? They are not easy jobs.
Women can do everything a man can do. Including making their own decisions.
@@squatchie3074 Because they're easier degrees. If they want to get paid more, become a professor or a doctor or a pharmacist. Yes, nurses, teachers etc. work hard and are essential, but you can't argue that they are easier to achieve. Brick layers work hard, should we pay them 6 figures? That's your logic.
@@squatchie3074They are not easy jobs, you’re right. But there’s no money in it, you can’t invest in education, at least not at the lower levels.
The crazy part about this is that this myth has been known for 50 years and yet some people still believe it. It's honestly more foolish to believe in than a flat earth at this point.
There are people in this world who think that getting a simple hand x-ray to check for a fracture will give them cancer from radiation poisoning and decay and they will die a horrible death and they say no to the doctor.
Of course some people will believe this myth lol.
I appreciate this guy having the backbone to walk up and have the discussion. I see him trying to argue to try and change the instinctual actions that men and women tend to take. It seems this guy, probably from being "educated", can't bring himself to accept those biological drives as an ok thing. This is why he is arguing that we should attempt to force a change against that biological drive. Problem is, if you force that, you will inevitably make people unhappy on a large scale. Men will, generally, not feel fulfilled or challenged as much as a pre-school teacher, and women will feel they are missing out on being able to nurture if they are forced in to a world of numbers, statistics, and spreadsheets. Key word being "forced".
Couldn't agree more with the last statement Candice made about women and children. At 20 with my first child I was a complete IDIOT, my wife (18 years old) was like an old pro. She was amazing!!
On one hand I want to give Candance props, but on the other hand all she had to do is speak obvious common sense to highlight a reality that we’ve all understood for centuries!
Only over the last 10 years or so has such confusion polluted our culture
You should give her props, and in a day and age where most people get their information from social media, to a lot of people it’s not obvious and sense is not a common thing.
I think it's been going on since the 70s and 80s but it's just gotten much worse in the last ten years. It might have started getting a little better in the 90s though. My impression was that it didn't feel like such a taboo to care for the home and kids full time (for those who could afford to have one income). I think it was more of a taboo in the 70s and 80s, but that's just my impression. I remember when I was a child in the 70s my mom started feeling like she wasn't as valuable a person not having a job outside the home (I mean she told me that later, when I was older), because the whole feminism thing was making her feel that way. But really, a lot of people have meaningless menial jobs, or are involved in the corporate ladder when they could be teaching and loving their kids more and making the home a comfortable place to be. I never got married or had kids, but the latter, as a woman, sounds better to me.
I think u just gave her props on both hand
It is also a skill to present your arguments in a life conversation in a structured factual way that not everyone can do even if the stance is common sense.
Stick with your instinct, candace owens deserve no props. She's a manipulative charlatan
She’s right. I once analyzed payroll for an engineering firm. Female engineers made the same as male engineers, but 95% of the engineers were men.
There’s hope for this young man. He wasn’t entitled or disrespectful. Seemed like a solid dude. Articulate and receptive. Willing to admit certain things that contradict his views. Respect.
Once again, Candice shuts them down with facts and logic...
You mean anecdotes and feelings? She literally pulled a "This is the truth, just trust me it is!" 😂
@@jansmitowiczauthor78 That literally proves women are different from men. She used facts with anecdotes and feelings. The guy on the left I think Charlie something used more facts.
Hahahahahaha. Her answer is basically well girls just like fashion I have an anecdote to support this. You must be insane to think that is facts and logic. I bet you did not even research the gender pay gap once (and yes there is a difference between adjusted and unadjusted gender pay back and one does have to consider all the statistically relevant factors, but a small percentage of worse payment for women remains), but you believe every stupid thing Candice simply claims. Guys like you really are the "critical thinkers" the world needs.
She used anecdotes, but there are countless studies that support what she says. She desperately needs to learn the studies behind this if she wants to speak with any authority. David Buss's research and his introductory textbook on evolutionary psychology is a great start toward understanding male and female cognitive differences. They exist scientifically and cross-culturally. Undeniable evidence for things pointing toward male hunting and female gathering specialties (mental rotation tasks, etc.) and women being better nurturers (being able to understand infant expressions and needs much better than men). Ignore anyone who says that it's false, there is 0 support for cognitive sex differences NOT existing. Don't trust Candace fully either, she doesn't understand the research on more than a second-hand, abstract level. But the research itself is undeniable in its strength, and social constructivism (believing that most differences between people are due to environment) is a dying paradigm in the field of psychology. People are just clinging to it for political ideology reasons.
It’s not about “shutting people down” ffs 🤦♂️ That’s no way to get people to listen.
We don’t overcome extremism and stupidity by being extreme and stupid.
I don’t think this guy even said he was a male feminist and he took everything on-board that was being said. It’s almost like he just wanted to hear their take on things. It was a good interaction and he wasn’t resistant or snarky because he probably agreed with them
As a woman, I am more incline to care for all kids even though I am good in engineering and math. Most of my female friends are not interested in math and engineering. Even though I am love engineering, I still see more men at work are more into it than me. They spend extra time after work learning more different things while I tend to want to spend time with my kids once I get home.
That's me as a man. I would've loved to be a stay-at-home dad. Though being a man, I felt obligated to have summer jobs and second jobs and eventually into school admin to make more money for my fam. Strong sense of the gatherer mentality but feel the most comfy with my compassionate/empathetic side.
That's what I always found completely evident: the differences in interests. In any engineering class, the few female students are usually better students during the first year or two, but during breaks you'll see the boys talking about all kind of things related to that career but not necessarily the topics that they're seeing in class at the moment, just because they're passionate about it. You'll never find a group of women having a technical talk about some engineering or science entirely out of interest.
I am a stay at home dad. I am retired Army and have health issues that are preventing me from working. My wife and I have switched roles recently and it's hard on both of us. I could work 20 hour days multiple times a week and besides fatigue it was pretty easy. My kids spend most of the day at school and it's a struggle for me to do these easy task at home, the house keeping task. My wife works part time and it rough for her at work, but then she comes home and whips out the house keeping task with what seems like no effort. Men and women are not the same, no matter how much it's pushed. We are creating some confused young adults.
@@ChristianPaulson-Music what youre explaining is not not being a man, in my opinion its very masculine.
Women don't have the same pressures. They aren't expected to have to do it all.
"it's better if the man just leaves and let the woman take care of the child because it's like she's has a second child". Lol actually burst out laughing at that
This panel is great. God bless you and keep you!
As a female working in Real estate, I didn’t not get paid different to men in real estate. When I moved into finance, I was not paid less than male colleagues in finance. When I climbed the corporate hierarchy, I earns more than many men That didn’t work as hard. What gender pay gap? Unless you mean I should take offence at Elon Musk, earning more than me, I mean that is just wrong right? Or are you saying that everyone, regardless of their choices, intellect and efforts they exert, there should be a standardised pay… no ifs or buts. Wow … do you even believe in a communist society where the state assign labour and wages, there isn’t a political or social class structure where people are ‘assigned’ more than others? You reap what you sow and you live by the choices you make in life. Equal opportunity is real, and it is here. If you want equal outcome, think about that for a moment, when everyone is equally poor, what then?
I spent a lot of time working in the ex USSR, that's not how communisms works. Put simply some people are a lot more equal than others, and they benefit a lot more as well.
@@aussietruckphotosandmodels8510 That is called corruption, one of the many reasons communism will always fail.
Sophie don't kid yourself on the insanity of the left as far as pay inequality goes. They actually said this inflation explosion we are going through is a "good" thing because it lowered pay inequality. Yeah by making people MORE poor. This is their end goal is to be financially like the communists. A ton of dirt poor people and a few elites.
@@aussietruckphotosandmodels8510 I can only be glad I never lived in a communist country, but from my readings of China after their civil war, the communist party did assign people to their ‘forever jobs’ … of course the party members assumed governing roles and those that were close to the party got better jobs than others. State directed or state owned entities did come with wages set by the state. I’m not sure which part of my statement was incorrect, perhaps it’s not the only truth.. Vietnamese, USSR, North Korea would each have their differences but essentially it is the people vs the people in power.
He's a bad example for males. That man has never worked a hard day in his life.
His blood type is soy.
bit of a stretch there saying male.
Exactly
That's unfair to say that, he's worked hard at being woke.
I'm not LGBT but I would say that if a man could actually become women that would the route
I worked on engine assembly line on mahindra tractors. We have 1200 work force on the line. Only one girl out of 1200 workers worked on engine leakage detection station which was fully automated. No manual labor required.
From my personal experience, this is true. My wife originally wanted to be a pediatrician. She was about to go to medical school. She actually chose instead to be a stay at home mother to our children. She wasn’t forced in any way. The pregnancy wasn’t an accident. It was her choice and I supported it. Women have the right to choose their career path. Simple as that
"do you think this is desirable for society..." what's the alternative? Forcing people to work in jobs they don't want?
Unfortunately, not exactly but sort of. Their alternative is to force companies and departments in the public sector to hire women regardless if they're fit for the job or not. Lots of instances where employers were forced to accommodate women, for instance a fire department that had to lower the bar on the physical admission test, just so that a woman could pass it so that they would be allowed to hire her, or women working in constructions (a really tough industry even for the men) not being able to keep up with their male colleagues, resulting in the men picking up the slack. It's stupid and desgusting.
I love Candace Owens. She's a credit to her race - the Human race.
It’s unfortunate she associates herself with Charlie Kirk, he’s annoying
Yes and no. She’s good sometimes.. but not this time.
@Juan Vazques I think that was just his weird way of saying he was proud of his beautiful daughter..
I love this comment
@Juan Vazques dang. That's rude, dude.
The one woman with the printed shirt is genuinely nice to the man and his question
I adore this conversation and while I agree with the panel … I am proud of the gentleman asking the questions…disagreeing but respectful and LISTENED! Both parties listened. Lovely exchange
I don't agree with the man, but I think he's really brave. It seems to me that English isn't his first language, and he was confident enough to argue a complicated topic in English in front of a crowd of people.
He didn't stand a chance in any language 😕
but he still went in to a battle unprepared......these four people live by facts, and facts will sink or save.....everything else was fine....a debate is a war of facts....he did not have any to change the my mind.....
Well he is clearly a moron I think it is being very generous to attribute 'being really brave' to a moron simply for being a moron.
I agree. Now I cant stand liberals and democrats but sometimes I have to remind myself that these people are controlled by the media and just dont know.. Any time they google any information to research they get democrat news for the first 20-30 links shown.. Just test this by typing trump in on google or youtube and find nonstop negative links on him which are all democrat. Trumps livestreams would have 100mill+ views on right side broadcasting networks channel and if you type "Trump" on youtube you get all hit videos on him by democrats and probably wont even find those rallies till you type it in. This guy isnt the dress wearing crazy liberal where facts mean nothing.. He can "Learn" and change imo atleast I hope.
@@JonSmith-cx7gr he is not a moron. He was articulate and respectful but ignorant. Ignorance does not make you stupid, it merely limits the conclusions you can derive from the data you have. He did a cursory search and received poor information which naturally led him to a conclusion contrary to the truth. The panel educated him and he was willing to listen, question, and interact with them. That is not a moron. People CAN look at the same data and draw different conclusions. It is even possible for BOTH conclusions to be correct to some degree. Stop calling people who simply have a different opinion "morons" when they show they are willing to actually respectfully debate.
When I was a university student, my girlfriend lived in a sorority house. Every single woman in her house was majoring in fashion and merchandising, education, nursing, sociology, family development, hospitality management services, etc. One woman in her whole house majored in wildlife biology and she became a Vet. Lol. Go figure. They all were dying to get married too.
Beautifully said Candice! Momma Bears are so important in teaching how to love and care for others. God BLESS Mom's around the world!
there was destruction there, everyone was very respectful all the way around. I loved the dude that asked the questions, his mind wasn't closed off, he presented his argument, compared their rebuttal to the information he had, and absorbed new information. I wish more people were like him when talking.
When I was a senior nurse, we male nurses tended to do all the heavy lifting [as a lot of the females where either lazy/faked bad backs or where pregnant] and repairing equipment etc.
The pregnant one's [their choice] would be off for nearly a year [also with sickness before the event too] and I [we] had to cover their shifts a lot of the time. When they came back, they had priority over me [us] for holidays [when to take them], when they have just been off for a year [as they were still entitled to their leave] and I had worked over my hours to cover for the ward! So glad I left that profession [after 26 years] and went into transport, now retired.
Men and women have all sorts of advantages and disadvantages in every area of life but I’d never want to switch out and pretend to be a woman no matter how much time off it would get me
That’s everywhere where’s there’s heavy lifting to my understanding.
Now I don’t recommend lifting more than you can or even attempting but women get away with not really doing any lifting
Then wanna argue you down about this and that knowing they are getting the same pay for less work.
Damn that sucks..I'm working on finishing my prerequisites for nursing school. Is there any pluses? Lol
Anglo Saxon, you're telling it like it is man.
@@shinske3564 ....yeah, you get to work with some nice T and A all day
Candace you are wise beyond your years. May the Lord keep you strong.
Pretty funny that when Candace destroyed his wage gap myth and then said the word "BIOLOGICALLY" Pepe Le Pue was guaranteed to be triggered into another failed debate with her. Hilarious
@@portobelloedinburgh8891 did she. With the when I was in college all the girls were doing fashion is hardly what you would call a well researched debunk. The funny thing I saw was the grifter kirk say it doesn't exist the owens say oh I get a better answer we say it does exist but we will undermine it. Shouldn't kirk have pushed his argument more or are they all in on the grift? They can't both be right.
@@tonyclifton2230 if you didn't already know the wage gap is a falsehood myth then..... She's squashed this topic about 1000 times with facts so I'm sure she's gotten tired of using facts with clueless ppl who hate hearing facts & stats and resorted to using a more simple approach. Sadly neither of you comprehended that one either.
@@portobelloedinburgh8891 candice and facts do not correlate very well. So your point is she is tired in using facts in her speech so she dumbed it down for us dumb dumbs. Remember when she was working on degree 180 rejoicing in the downfall of the tea party and their crazy antics. I know it was a whole 6 years ago. Was she using facts then or is this a new thing with the facts. For her and kirk this is all a grift.
She is highly anointed and favored by God but not many people recognize that only us that are moving with the Holy Spirit.
I'm so happy there are voices like Candace Owens out there.
I liked that the questioner wasn't absolutely RIGID in his beliefs as so many are. He was perhaps somewhat reluctant to accept some points yet he displayed a willingness and openness to listen with civility and respect. Pretty refreshing after seeing so many of these videos.
You mean he wasn't completely stupid and lacking in common sense?
It was refreshing….but then you read the hateful comments from threatened little beta males who attack him cos he represents the part of themselves they despise 😂😂😂.
He looks to me as though he actually agreed with them 👏
Really? Yes he was rigid. Is all you guys think about is so-called civility? Sheesh.
She was right over all (if her sources are true), except when she say « its a biological issue », because a lot of our center of interest dont forcely come only from biology, they also come from social construction in education
The ending was the best....sometimes moms get beat up by everyone but we need to pat ourselves on the back! We do know how to take care of things, when our kids are sick, everything....hell even help the men find their wallets and keys....yin and yang of our relationship is beautiful
Absolutely. I don't know what I would do without my wife. She fills in everything that I'm lacking and I fill in everything she is lacking. Made by God for each, when you obey God in a spousal relationship, it's a beautiful thing. I've been married 18 years and I can't wait to spend the rest of my life with her. I know my kids see that too. I feel there is no man who loves a woman more than I love my wife and she matches my love for her with her love for me.
True that. As a man I know my own strengths working under high pressure in my industry but I can't help marvel when a woman innately knows how to crack the code when it comes to sorting out a home or managing kid shenanigans.
@@Iron-Bridge women are amazing when they are allowed to be women. Same goes for men. Being retired is nice, but at my age, I feel incomplete not working, especially since I had been working full time since 14. I'm sure my wife feels the same not being home. I know not everyone is the same, but for us we have fulfilled the traditional roles as man a woman because that is who we are. Be you and let me be me. These progressives are so hypocritical.
Civil discussion with great points, love to see these type of questions
This should broadcasted on national television throughout the world
Idiot left extremists still wouldn't listen and say they're all misogynist.
“Do you think society should be like this?”
Yes. I believe we should have a society where men and women get to pursue their individual interests. The alternative is forcing people into things they don’t want and don’t gravitate toward.
What we see, as mentioned in the Scandinavian counties is that when you minimize external forces such as social or financial pressures to go a certain path, the biological differences maximize and become dominant.
This is where the left trips on itself. As this guy was willing to acknowledge, when pushed they will agree there is some biological input. They will reasonably claim it is minor. But what they fail to grasp is that when you eliminate everything else, the major, or only, effect is the biological.
How do you know, those are biological differences, not cultural?
Yo yo yo. You actually sat down, took your time and typed an essay bro 🤣🤣
@@triessolution7574 dude…. It’s a comment section and people are trying to have deep meaningful discussions about a serious topic…
@@mateuszdabrowski7497 they explained in the video
@@triessolution7574 And?
I enjoy these conversations. As a person with a Master's Degree in the Finance area, I keep finding one statistic missing from all of these discussions and likely has been missed (either purposefully or accidentally) that would DRAMATICALLY alter the narratives: of the wages earned, who is in direct benefit and/or control of that wage, regardless of who earned it? This is looked at in Sales and Marketing as this matters around the idea of disposable income (statistics of who purchases the majority of goods and services used by disposable income). Women in America, regardless of who earns the wage, are in the highest direct benefit and/or control of all wages earned when you include alimony and child support and wages men earn in a marriage that has the direct benefit and/or control of the wife. The figures of this would put American women in direct benefit and control of over 80% of all wages earned after taxes (taxes alone would be around 20% of wages earned), regardless of who earns the wage. Estimates would be more accurate if these types of statistics were more readily available. The women who get nothing from their ex's and baby-fathers are by far the exception and not the rule. Start looking at who the CONSUMER is in this discussion, not the producer of the wage. That will clear up a lot of confusion. Just food for thought.
As someone who holds your masters in finance, do you think the US government will ever be able to bring back the gold standard? Or back our dollar with a commodity? Figured I'd pick you brain if that's okay
I'd never looked at it from that angle before. Thanks for the insight.
Good point, thanks for sharing
@@1-501Infantry i'm not OP, but i'm pursuing a bachelor's in finance, so i'll try to answer your question as best as i can. going back to a gold standard would pose several issues, which makes it undesirable for most world leaders. in order to revert back to the gold standard, all liabilities would have to be repaid in hard cash or negotiated. this can be done, as it has been done in the past by other nations, but it was never done by a welfare state such as the United States nor by a nation with such a large national debt. i'll just say that it could happen, but we are certainly not financially sound enough yet.
@@1-501Infantry this may sound odd, but I think we are headed in to realm of block chain currency. This may work better for us if the block chains can be based on emerging energy technologies that re likely more green and can take over for fossil fuel in the future when that is no longer an option for global commercial use. Just my two cents based on the next 30 years and what might happen in that time
Now this is a good example of debate and discussion.
When Candace points out that men don't know what to do with children, I felt like someone just explained to me something I've always known.
What he appears to be proposing, is that government should dictate to people, what courses they should take, and what jobs they should do.
Exactly. Which would be horrifically inefficient. We would have women struggling to carry people out of burning buildings, and tall, powerful, testosterone filled men teaching Kindergarten class. Lovely.
@@justinmadrid8712 The latter I wouldn't care about, the former...not so much!
@@justinmadrid8712 It amazes me that people cannot look at history where communist governments have tried to force jobs and see how badly it turned out. Like when the Chinese decided to dictate that farmers should go work in steel and iron mills while taking other people who weren't farmers and making them farmers. This combined with some shoddy farming practices and bad governance led to the Great Chinese Famine. That cost the lives of somewhere between like 10 to 55 million Chinese lives.
@@justinmadrid8712 didn't Arnold Schwarzenegger make a movie about that?
My goodness, I've never heard more reasonable ad logical points in my life. Pure facts.
.Never..? 💀💀💀💀
My wife worked for a finance company, and I was a lorry driver, she earned a lot more than me. I worked 50 to 60 hours a week, she worked 37 hours a week.
I am grateful that this nice young guy is willing to sit through this and to greet the opposite argument with respect and even good humor. I wish discussions could always be so sensible. Also: Candace just rocks 😉
The problem is that he thinks money is the most important measurement of success. So everyone should aspire to have more money and if you have less you are somehow a failure. If we forced all women to go into STEM, and 90% of them were well-off but miserable, would that be a fair society?
In my dumb youth I also thought more women should study engineering. Then I realized that I could've studied it, but I don't want to be an engineer. As a rule we value different things. If a woman wants to be an engineer and is capable of doing it, all power to her.
Even with the argument that teachers should be paid more - maybe they should, but their jobs have other perks that money can't buy. I think we should realize that there is balance to everything and money isn't te only measurement we should use to see if a society is "just".
The reason why a wealth gap is problematic isn't because of a measure of success, but because we live in a system where money creates opportunity so if we have women having less wealth than men, they have less opportunity and power than men
Wow these four people are actually giving me hope for the younger generation "BRAVO"
this is more of a civil conversation, he was respectful, they were respectful
Excellent points by Candace and Charlie. I just wish they would reference these studies properly in the 'More Info' sections, so people can go and read the cited reports for themselves.
I'm in love with these two women. They know how to think for themselves, can formulate an argument, and still be respectful. That is a beautiful thing.
It can be really hard these days to convince some people that women and men are different.
Just because people are different doesn't mean they shouldn't be equal
This is how discussion should be ,ask questions ,agree or disagree respectfully and This was not destroying it was just telling the facts the way they are.
I will be 47 years old this year. I've been a professional software engineer since I was 18. In 29 years in the field, would anyone like to guess how many female software engineers I've worked with? 0. A big, fat, goose egg. They do exist, so I'm told, but they're rare. Not because woman are bad at it, nor because anyone is telling they can't or shouldn't. I don't know the reason why, other than to say that their interests lie elsewhere.
The IT field has been begging for more women for years, and I think a few more are entering the field these days, but they're still few and far between. I don't understand what's so wrong with women typically not wanting to join these fields.
Stop trying to guilt women into doing things they don't want to do.
Notice how he mentioned " there are definitely studies" without mentioning the study,yet, as soon as the panel say it is not true,he wants to know, what study? they do not practise what they preach.
Check out David Buss's work and his introductory text on evolutionary psychology. Countless strong, cross-cultural studies support the existence of cognitive sex differences, such as hunting/gathering specialties (e.g., mental rotation tasks) and women as better nurturers (e.g., how women are shown to be better at reading and understanding infant emotions and needs than men). There is 0 scientific support for cognitive sex differences NOT existing, beyond the theoretical level.
he did try to say the names of the studies. He gone one of them out. How can you fault this guy for not saying enough when 4 people are debating him at the exact same time?
exactly.....the old liberal standby is to never include details on their bullshit claims, but then to demand you produce chapter and verse on the spot of your claims.
@@pineappleparty1624 first, he didn't have to ask a question, it was his choice, and he knew he was addressing the whole panel. Second, I imagine when you are one of these panelists and you hear this libtard parroting all of the liberal myths that have all been debunked, it's hard to stay quiet.
@@pineappleparty1624 He sounds French so most likely a brain-washed post modernist.
The guy is French, I can tell by his accent (being born in France too) and in France there is that notion that you let the other speak so you can hear what his arguments are, even if you completely disagree with him or her.
Well France did lose 2 consecutive world wars, and would be speaking German now if it weren't for US's help.
@@canfindaname
I totally agree.
Being Jewish and living in Jerusalem, I'll support the US before I do France (maybe not Biden tho 🤪)
Thank you. Someone with common sense instead of mob mentality. The comments here are shameful.
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Not to say the guy isn't a fucking idiot, but at least his got manners and is willing to listen and that is to his credit.
@@davidmeir9348 Exactly. With that much he can change and is likely not the violent criminal type of leftist.
I love Candice's poetic description... About the symbiosis of men and women! It is so true!
We should Rejoice in our differences!
And not be forced to be the same bland androgynous nobody...
She is so real. God, I pray that many more like these fine young educated minds can come about to bring a positive change.
Thx for this… my wife and I have been talking about this for a long time and we have been saying this for 15 years or more way before we got married…
then u got a good wife keep her =)
Lucky guy 😔 there’s too many radical feminist out here. It’s nice if you want a quickie though .
@@terrencelee9366 Incel wishes.
I'm not trying to be judgmental so please don't take what I say the wrong way, but I think it's sad that society is discussing about the most natural things and that somehow accepting things that are innate to human beings is worthy of praise by other people. I really do and I'm by no means singling you out or trying to disrespecting you or your wife.
Props to the guy asking the question. It seemed he really was just searching for knowledge. He cited that which he knew and had a productive dialogue.
I've been driving a truck for over 36 years and have never seen a company that had two pay scales, one for male drivers and one for female. The difference isn't because of sex. It's because of things like the job, experience and ability, as stated in the video.
Good for you! The world needs to be more aware of how reliant we are on truck drivers.
this was one the better people to debate to ,because he was actually willing to listen to and not just shout and scream and say random big words like"PATRIARCHY", he had his own thoughts and meant to be a meaningful way
That guy is SO programmed to believe that men and women are the same and it's only the patriarchy that wants to say they are different.
They are not the same but they do deserve equality of opportunity
I will say, much respect to the male feminist for remaining respectful and also open to hearing and considering other opinions. Good questions from him and good answers from the board.