What If Marth Betrays Sheena in Fire Emblem 12 Lunatic Reverse? [TOP 10 ANIME BETRAYALS]

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024

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  • @CollectorTogami
    @CollectorTogami  7 лет назад +203

    To clarify, Sheena and Samson are unable to attack the Gra troops themselves, as the option to do so will not show up.

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 7 лет назад +1

      Collector Togami
      What Chapter is this?

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 7 лет назад +1

      Collector Togami
      What Chapter is this?

    • @Majo_Ellen
      @Majo_Ellen 7 лет назад +15

      In the SNES version she can kill her troops for EXP! >W>

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 6 лет назад +8

      +Rui ルイ
      I won't even attempt a Betrayal at all.
      If I did, heads will roll.

    • @endeavorrattata7839
      @endeavorrattata7839 6 лет назад +2

      But then in Book 2 of Fe3 (Yes that means fe12 is the remake of Fe3 Book 2) Sheema and Samson can attack Gra units themselves.

  • @SpikeOriundo
    @SpikeOriundo 7 лет назад +408

    Trust broke
    Understandable have a nice day

  • @indigoasis
    @indigoasis 7 лет назад +288

    "Sire, to keep fighting like this is pointless."
    Well said, Jagen. Well said.

    • @CollectorTogami
      @CollectorTogami  7 лет назад +24

      AlmondJuice I was wondering how long until someone picked up on that lmao

  • @SWad250
    @SWad250 7 лет назад +258

    "Trust broke" is my favorite thing about this What If.

  • @Omperor
    @Omperor 6 лет назад +88

    Prince "If You're a Dragon, Get In the Corpse Wagon" Marth
    Prince "Paint the Town Red With Reds" Marth
    Prince "Better Dead Than Red" Marth
    Prince "Only Blue Lives Matter" Marth
    Prince "A Crime It Is Not, To Slay a Thot" Marth
    Prince "You Can't Spell Grave Without Gra" Marth

  • @ryangallagher9723
    @ryangallagher9723 3 года назад +32

    fun fact: if you trade sheena the lightsphere before killing a gra soldier, it won't drop if you kill her, meaning you will be literally incapable of inflicting damage on hardin, and thus incapable of getting either the good or bad ending. fe12 wanted to add in a cute little detail and ended up making room for a game-breaking softlock. sure, it's so specific that you've only got yourself to blame if you do it, but the point is that it's possible.

  • @D.Dragon
    @D.Dragon 7 лет назад +162

    Roses are red,
    Enemy units are too,
    So when they joined,
    They didn't have privileges of being blue.

    • @CollectorTogami
      @CollectorTogami  7 лет назад +13

      Douglas Dragon I can't help but admire your dedication to do this in multiple videos

    • @D.Dragon
      @D.Dragon 7 лет назад +7

      'Multiple'? I think I've been doing it in hundreds of videos now.

    • @CollectorTogami
      @CollectorTogami  7 лет назад +6

      amazing

    • @Itnotfunny
      @Itnotfunny 6 лет назад +1

      Douglas Dragon nah the god of betrayal is Kain from ff4

    • @everettwatsonrazorearcwolf6553
      @everettwatsonrazorearcwolf6553 2 года назад

      @@Itnotfunny facts

  • @SorenArcwind
    @SorenArcwind 7 лет назад +52

    "Oh, don't get mad, Sheema. We can revive that generic soldier with the Aum staff."

    • @ryangallagher9723
      @ryangallagher9723 3 года назад +5

      You actually can't. Even if that soldier was playable, you wouldn't be able to revive him, because in Lunatic Reverse, the Aum staff is unobtainable due to requiring the Warp staff, which was replaced with a Fortify staff in the higher difficulty setting. You can't just use the Thief staff to open the chest in Chapter 23 containing it, because there's an enemy dark mage standing on top of the chest, preventing it from being obtained without first warping a unit in to kill them. You also can't kill them from a distance with 3-10 range weapons, since the game's only siege tomes (Meteor and Swarm) are enemy-exclusive and there are no playable ballisticians. FE12's idea of difficulty is taking the player's toys away from them. You can't get the second Hammerne staff in the same chapter for the same reason. (Lunatic and Lunatic Reverse also remove the Silence staff and the Silver Card, FYI.)

  • @mauvedragontiddies9244
    @mauvedragontiddies9244 7 лет назад +95

    Takumi: "I AM BETRAYAL!"
    Marth: "Hold my beer."

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 7 лет назад

      Der Slendy
      Look at this dude!
      Hahahahahaha!
      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

  • @eltrashcan6486
    @eltrashcan6486 7 лет назад +72

    The best part is when "Trust" broke.

  • @TheMadRedHatter
    @TheMadRedHatter 7 лет назад +182

    Move aside, Takumi. Marth is the new betrayal.

    • @cucosuzu
      @cucosuzu 7 лет назад +9

      Doctor Anime New betray my ass

    • @dancingfuriously
      @dancingfuriously 7 лет назад +17

      Takumi Of Hoshido I'm the classic betrayal, so, please...

    • @Tonypikmin
      @Tonypikmin 7 лет назад +4

      Prince Lyon Nuh, huh. Hardin is.

    • @dancingfuriously
      @dancingfuriously 7 лет назад +3

      Tonyair awww, don't spoil my precious moment.
      It's true, though.

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 6 лет назад +1

      Prince Lyon
      Hah!

  • @Afuwall
    @Afuwall 7 лет назад +114

    Rip Trust

  • @DrewPicklesTheDark
    @DrewPicklesTheDark 4 года назад +11

    Ironic since in FE3 the best way to train Sheema is to give her the star orb and have her kill her own troops.

  • @oussama7132
    @oussama7132 7 лет назад +34

    *TRUST MACHINE BROKE*

    • @rosevans
      @rosevans 7 лет назад +3

      *UNDERSTANDABLE, HAVE A NICE DAY.*

  • @DrewPicklesTheDark
    @DrewPicklesTheDark 6 лет назад +7

    Sucks Sheema is so bad in this one. In FE3 you could give her the star orb, kill all her own troops, then solo the army in the next chapter and end up maxing every stat. Also "Trust broke" was priceless.

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool 7 лет назад +42

    What if you get abel killed before he and est betray you

    • @SurfingKyogreNL
      @SurfingKyogreNL 7 лет назад +5

      I don't think you meet him before that point

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool 7 лет назад

      SurfingKyogre but can you kill them. I just want to see mystery of thr embelm more

    • @genericanimepicture3559
      @genericanimepicture3559 6 лет назад

      ivanbluecool NANI??!!

  • @nicharris7880
    @nicharris7880 7 лет назад +19

    *Insert obligatory "I AM BETRAYAL" comment*

  • @hypertane
    @hypertane 7 лет назад +26

    "Trust broke"

  • @OmegaCKL
    @OmegaCKL 6 лет назад +13

    I like how on top of this, Arran was the one to kill.

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 5 лет назад +3

      Arran : Your orders, sire?
      Jagen : Dammit Marth!

    • @5577Step
      @5577Step 3 года назад +1

      Kris: *Fights the urge to laugh*

    • @MapleHero120
      @MapleHero120 3 года назад

      Because Arran and Samson actually knows each other?

  • @kaga2788
    @kaga2788 7 лет назад +43

    Is that Sigurd? 0:32

    • @indigoasis
      @indigoasis 7 лет назад +1

      Kaga 27 hah looks like it, but that's Samson.

    • @domc8089
      @domc8089 7 лет назад +1

      GM go fuck yourself

    • @kaga2788
      @kaga2788 7 лет назад +12

      Uncle Owain Gm?

    • @yes1667
      @yes1667 6 лет назад +2

      Uncle Owain Nigga what

  • @simondupuis8372
    @simondupuis8372 7 лет назад +21

    But what happens if you attack a gra soldier and they kill you ( since they attack first on lunatic reverse?) would marth's team become red??

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 7 лет назад +4

      Simon-Pierre Dupuis
      You musn't engage the Gra Soldiers in battle at all costs if you wanted Sheema to fight at your cause.

    • @dmas7749
      @dmas7749 6 лет назад +4

      22 Atk with a forged Silver Lance and 3 Speed...it'd take more effort to get killed by them than to kill them.

    • @ChillstoneBlakeBlast
      @ChillstoneBlakeBlast 6 лет назад +1

      They killed in self defense

  • @nykita427
    @nykita427 7 лет назад +6

    I replayed the game just to see this dialogue
    I wasn't able to find it on the Internet for some reason

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 7 лет назад

      Nikita Krivko
      Fire Emblem 12 is the only Nintendo DS Game that is not released overseas, sadly. But the only video in youtube about that game is "this".

  • @joshuapotter5940
    @joshuapotter5940 7 лет назад +5

    I talked with him on discord with broken trust. he liked the quotes i made.
    Said quotes:
    Betrayl...betrayl...I AM BETRAYL.
    Let me give you one final lesson. Know one thing, and people betray each other. It's a fact of life. -James McCloud, F-Zero: The legend of Falcon.

    • @Mario2980
      @Mario2980 7 лет назад

      Joshua Potter Even if there's no connection despite Nintendo putting so much bullshit with that excuse, that would pretty much sum up Pigma betraying the team...

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool 7 лет назад +11

    What if naya dies if sirius cant save her or what if sirius dies.

    • @HenT8991
      @HenT8991 7 лет назад +7

      The bishops if you dont recruit them will be hostile to you and when you have to fight Medeus and you bring his health to zero he will devour one of the four bishops to regain his health. Or you kill them before trying to kill Medeus.

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool 7 лет назад +1

      soullordT8 I know that. I just never risk it. I meant if it has any special support. Anyways thanks

  • @kirimusse
    @kirimusse 2 года назад +3

    So, they could code this, but they couldn't code Navarre not attacking women while being an enemy?

  • @hiropisku1078
    @hiropisku1078 7 лет назад +2

    After breaking Trust, Arran would soon get a weapon from Marth called "Betrayal"

  • @Joshua-tv6jq
    @Joshua-tv6jq 7 лет назад +12

    Coulda made it worse by gaining a level lol

  • @ziggymcdougal
    @ziggymcdougal 7 лет назад +3

    RIP Samson and highest speed base in B2

  • @zeroaragaki4570
    @zeroaragaki4570 6 лет назад +4

    top 10- wait what? its already in the title

    • @CollectorTogami
      @CollectorTogami  6 лет назад +3

      I am sufficiently self aware of my shitposting

    • @zeroaragaki4570
      @zeroaragaki4570 6 лет назад +3

      +Collector Togami i see you're a man of culture as well

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool 7 лет назад +4

    SAMSON WOOOOO

  • @mauvedragontiddies9244
    @mauvedragontiddies9244 7 лет назад +1

    At least she wasn't a green unit.

  • @AnjnShan
    @AnjnShan 4 года назад

    I appreciate the dedication to the meme. You forged a weapon named trust and got it down to low enough health just to break it. Evil. Chaotic evil.
    and Marth's 69 XP sealed it.

  • @brenscott5416
    @brenscott5416 2 года назад

    That lag bro, big oof

  • @thomaskitsune
    @thomaskitsune 3 года назад

    Samson looks like Sigurd.

  • @grottosstuff
    @grottosstuff 7 лет назад +2

    Tacomeat is jealous

    • @Mario2980
      @Mario2980 7 лет назад

      Some Guy at the Soupermarket Hmm, that's an odd name for a pineapple...

  • @5577Step
    @5577Step 4 года назад

    "Trust nobody". *Inserts Dorcas quote here*

  • @applelaw8741
    @applelaw8741 7 лет назад +1

    Rip trust

  • @nutterbutter9404
    @nutterbutter9404 7 лет назад

    "Trust broke"

  • @eldiegollador7271
    @eldiegollador7271 7 лет назад +4

    D I S G U S T I N G

  • @sanguinecalamus191
    @sanguinecalamus191 7 лет назад

    Looks like they decided that they missed red.

  • @UnlimitedMrX
    @UnlimitedMrX 7 лет назад

    I didn't know Sigurd was in this game

  • @endeavorrattata7839
    @endeavorrattata7839 6 лет назад

    In my country Trust is a condom brand. There are you happy?

  • @arcadium3459
    @arcadium3459 7 лет назад +1

    "Trust broke!"
    ...Was this intentional?

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 7 лет назад +6

      C.B. Hylton
      Yes,because the Name of the Spear is edited.

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 5 лет назад

      @Zxylo 5
      Oh hello there!

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 5 лет назад

      @Zxylo 5
      Could I ask you a favor?

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 5 лет назад

      @Zxylo 5
      Its not much of an issue but my phone is rebooted and my Fire Emblem Statistical Data is scattered throughout the RUclips(still mostly Fire Emblem Content).
      You should collect all these data and bring and post them here at this video.
      Including the datum about MY OWN STATS too.
      I'll give you a Master Crown to promote into a Gold Knight after.
      Its right here :
      👑

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 5 лет назад

      @Zxylo 5
      Just help me try to recover them all.
      This is a Year-Long Sidequest so you can do it anytime.
      Just find a conversation with me trying to Silver-tongue a random person into becoming a Fire Emblem Unit.

  • @SethJV
    @SethJV 6 лет назад

    This game was really ugly, man.

  • @anibalvaldebenito8810
    @anibalvaldebenito8810 7 лет назад

    Is the audio that bad on the game??

  • @MrJuan3034
    @MrJuan3034 7 лет назад

    I love you collector togami

  • @zephyfoxy
    @zephyfoxy 6 лет назад

    why is it so laggy

  • @teeloffel8588
    @teeloffel8588 6 лет назад

    what if you seize right after you betrayed her?

  • @jason200912
    @jason200912 6 лет назад

    i felt her pain.

  • @piojoaquinlopez8881
    @piojoaquinlopez8881 6 лет назад

    What does reverse lunatic mean?

    • @CollectorTogami
      @CollectorTogami  6 лет назад +1

      Lunatic is the hardest regular difficulty mode. Lunatic Reverse is when the AI always gets the first move even during the player phase. It's the same as Lunatic+

  • @KaiAlter
    @KaiAlter 7 лет назад

    What happened?

  • @torri776
    @torri776 2 года назад

    This is NOT an anime betrayal. It feels very REAL.
    As my favorite Fire Emblem, and the last of the good entries, I will explain why I adore this scene (that I had not seen previously, ironically). It only makes me like this DS masterpiece even more, because just think of Sheema's perspective! With only a few lines of dialogue from both Sheema and Samson, you can sense the building distrust, and it's very relatable.
    The feelings of betrayal are among the strongest feelings any human being can ever experience, and the way it's handled here is PERFECT.

  • @dankwatermelon1504
    @dankwatermelon1504 7 лет назад

    What system is this for? Anyone

    • @thelssekai3266
      @thelssekai3266 7 лет назад

      obitrizzle Nintendo DS, but it is a Japanese exclusive, so either emulation or an English patch are necessary to play in English.

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 7 лет назад

      Thels Sekai
      How do I play this one again?

    • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
      @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 7 лет назад

      Thels Sekai
      I can now play this game in English. No consequences! No limits! Only glory!

  • @mikeh5328
    @mikeh5328 6 лет назад

    You could of at least put a spoiler warning on the video title

  • @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
    @xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 6 лет назад

    I just can't believe that you killed the Heir of Gra and also a Waifu.