Delboy's Garage, Harley Davidson Fork Oil Change !
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
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I always enjoy your video's and decided to change the fork oil on my 2003 FXSTB. It turns out that the caps are under no tension! The springs are both retained by a nut in the tube (41 mm factory type). So it is very easy to remove the caps (with or without lifting the front wheel) and the oil drain screws at the bottom, let it sit for a while and put the drainplugs in again. I then searched for the correct amount of oil and it was 356 ml.
Another great video Del and Penny, I think this one will be getting a lot of hits for years to come, helping people demystify fork oil changes. I know I would not be without my vacuum pumps, they save so much time. Penny and you have a great week. Cheers
Thanks buddy, we hope so too... if we're lucky this one will become one fo the long term 6-figure videos of the future... most videos we do are for 'enteraintment', some have a little info in too that people can benefit from, but videos like this, we hope, will become the future reference source for people... have a great week yourself, ride safe, D&Px
Hey Brit !, and Missy,
Yes, A Simple, not over done, Approach.
Thank You.
Very Appreciated.
Normal Application of a Great Working Video.
The Vacuum Removal Technique was a nice touch too, Man !
Hope you're all well, after the Weap-nized Cv19, b.s. shenanigans.
...just curious as how politics affected your lives/side of the pond.
"Take
NO TXIC SHOTS !"
Well,
Thanks again.
Your channel is what I've been missing my entire life
Never thought about using the hand transfer pump! Awesome and simple ! Great video.
I loved how you showed us two ways of doing this.
Sweet, 3 years on and your vid is still helping
Thanks , good times
Glad to help
Super useful sir THANK YOU very much
Always welcome !
Tell you what mate - I almost didn’t click on your video but after watching it I’m going to order a little vac pump and do the fork oil on my 09 FXDL. Top presentation, editing, no bullshit. Cheers mate! Mitch - Bowral, NSW, Australia.
Glad that my Wide Glide has drain plugs at the bottom of the fork tubes. Ridiculous if they've stopped putting those in.
Thank you! I'm coming up on 50k miles and I haven't done this yet so now I'm a little nervous about how bad my bike has needed it.
I love your videos. You make it easy to understand and leave me confident that I can do this without too many issues.
"Just resting after a long squawk."🤣
haha Python always gets my attention, long live the Python...! And don't sweat it on the service, 10k or 50k, or even 100k, it's the same set of procedures with the same results! Cardboard box?? You were lucky...
Thanks for the video, and I absolutely like to hear other people's accent. Yours and whoever was helping you with the video.
This has been a really valuable video. I never thought of changing the fork oil on my 5yr old Breakout on its 15k service (coming up) but when i saw the state if that oil at 13k...that task when straight on my to do list. Sealey pump and head socket ordered. Thanks mate!
Most welcome Mike, glad to help.. Fork oil is always the most overlooked on all bikes.. have fun with it and enjoy the journey !
You can make markings on the container for the pump so you measure how much came out. Thank you for the lesson.
Another satisfying job to do at home. Save money and the satisfaction of a job well done. That fork oil was well past it's sell by date.
NEVER GOES BAD(if not open), its NOT milk!
Great job! Just giving my penny: you don't need to spend money with the suction pump. Just buy a bigger hose which one side touch the bottom of the fork and another side goes into a basin bellow the bottom level of the fork. Then, you just need to suck with a cheap manual pump and let the gravity works! For sure both methods (except the first one) work in the same way letting a little bit of old oil inside. Also, I'm not so comfortable with this measurement method once it could shows a erroneous read in case the fork was already at the incorrect level before due to leaks or anything else. So, I think it's better to follow the specs amount. Btw, thanks for the lesson.
That's awesome. I should be good because I put new Forks in about 2 years ago. But I'm going to definitely buy that manual vacuum extractor. You and Penny have a wonderful week and Ride safely.
Hi Paul, yes indeed, it's a great little device, it'll save you a lot of grief... you can use it for sucking fluid out of anything, even non-automotive, and they're cheap as chips - link underneath !
After doing the work necessary to drain the oil it makes sense to flush them. Put in the new oil, pump the fork several times, and drain again. You'll get a lot more junk out that way and have a cleaner start.
Thanks!
Love this dude. Installing progressive springs on the '13 fxdwg today. Its always been a bit daunting to me but, you make it look simple.
Thanks Mike, i hope the install goes well and you find the upgrade much better than before.. Ride sdafe mate and thanks for watching.
now then delboy, before i go on love all your videos and respect the way you spanner, just returned back to biking and treated meself to a 2008 dyna superglide shes mint with only 7000 dry british miles, always loved doing my own repair and upkeep but only small job was to stiffen forks and after watching this vid i got meself a vacume pump and went to graft, after both fork legs only gave me 480ml /cc each ( the book said about 780 cc) i decided to remove legs and turn upside down and hey presto the remaining oil was there, after inspection :MY fault: i found the suction tube didnt pass the OROFICE down into lower fork leg, so in summary brill vid but to anyone doing the oil change make sure you pick the bones out of all vids you watch and always always have a good service manual present.
please keep up the good work and keep smiling
ben
p.s used smith and allen 15wt ,much better now not so much bounce and less dive.
61 years young using our lasses computer so its Mr b not miss g
Thanks for the feedback Mr B, and congratulations on the new Harley, welcome back to the fold. ! it's easy to get the hose tube stuck before it gets all the way down, easy fix is to hold it up against the side of the fork leg on the outside, and measure the point it reaches the bottom.. then the marker reaches the top of the leg when the hose reaches the bottom.. or just up-end it like you did, both ways work.. ride safe and enjoy your new bike. Del.
Yeah , love the cherryaid very satisfying ..
That vacuum tank we both use is so handy..i used my 6l one to drain my fuel before i did phosphoric acid in my tank ..it was a risk at ruining the seals but it stood up fine ...in fact i use it for all fluids...bloody great kit...👍☮❤😁
Ayup Springy, I've a 6L one as well and it was great for emptying the toilet cistern when I got a leaky ballcock.. must be me age dear!
Outstanding thanks
Great video Delboy, very helpful tip with the pump.....Cheers.
Ok Del, I use a plastic fish tank hand vacuum pump that I bought from "Pets at Home" for a fiver. It does the job fine, you can use it for emptying the fuel tank too.
Another brilliant video from Del ! With the amount of money you've saved me over time , i may even get you and Penny a cup of tea and a bun if i ever bump into you . Thank you Delboy !!
Thanks for your kind words, it's great that the videos are able to help you... tea and a bun accepted lol
The intro is awesome .
Thanks for sharing Sir‼️👍👍❤️❤️🤠
You are very welcome
Love your videos. I find them very educational and easy to follow. I was curious, My HD has two different screws that can be use to remove the fork oil. With one of the screw located on the bottom side of the fork it makes it very easy to drain out the fluid. The other screw, the islocated at the bottom of the fork but the axel cap must be removed in one side. I truly do not understand why HD did not use them on these models. By the way, the forks used on my bike are Japanese (Showa) and the bleeding pan screw part # 45858-77. Sadly, I had to come up with a better screw than HD offers. I used a M8 -1.25 x 10 Button Head Cap Screw in SS.
Thanks again for taking the time and educating us with your skills.
Another great instructional video Del, always make it look easy.
Thanks Dave, much appreciated !
spring cleaning video, great content as always, keep up the good work
Thanks Steve..
thanks very much i got a 1987 hearitage an i will do mine soon thanks.
Most welcome Fred, glad it helped.
Or you forks may have a drain screw. Great content well executed as ever Del.
Ah yes, god bless the drain screw! Just remember to do it with the fork caps ON, otherwise it takes hours to pump out and just goes foamy, but collapsing the fork with the caps on acts like a ram and forces the oil out!
Delboy thanks for the help keep it up
Any time, thanks for watching buddy.
Thank you Del, great video
wow what a clear explanation ☺️ .. great bright spring 😉 hihi
Thank you! 😃
Nice job and tips, might come in handy sometime. Got my bike last night, an 08' Kawi ER6f, opened her up for a sec or two on the dual carriageway, blimey she's fast :)
Hi mate, good to hear you've got yourself a bike, the sunshine's out, so enjoy some miles on it while you can - ride safe mate !
Thanks Del. I will have to look at my forks to see what they are. Great video.
You're welcome Kirk, happy to help if you get stuck mate...
good video...ty for sharing
ty for caring on my wreck. have not had an incident since. in fact have saved many accidents in advance because of defense. i ride mostly with others in a group
ps: love the shirts
Hi Bob, great to hear from you, and good call, riding in a group can be safer in some ways, as long as the group is organised.. take care and ride safe my friend.. have a great week.. D&Px
Great video! Really learned alot! Thanks so much!
Thank you
You're welcome
Good condensed time frame !
Can work on my motorcycle with confidence.Thank you from Philadelphia.
Awsome just done my brake fluid ..this will be next thanks to you👍
Thanks mate, Good luck with it.
Pefect job. I like your way to work. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Andy.
ive seen so much variation in oil levels from the factory, some over full some under full. I always pull the forks off a do a complete disassembly as there is always gunk in the bottom. Hope your well guys.!
Hi Andrew, that is indeed the correct and proper way to do it, but removing and stripping forks is beyond many people and daunting for most, specially cartridge forks that need special tools.. and you are right, some oil levels have been known to vary... but you can still check the quantity with your manual, and measure what you get out to see if you have got it all..if you'r worried about any sediment, then turn them upside down and let them drain, maybe even flush some oil in and out a few times. and then adjust the level if needed.. thanks for watching mate.. have a good day. Del.
Exactly my thought about the level, ty guys
Delboy, you make great videos. Thank you so much for creating these videos. I have learned so much and i personally wanted to thank you!
Thank you so much Edward, thats very kind of you.
Double thanks for that video Del. I just changed my fork oil having been inspired by watching this morning. The old oil was black and thick and smelly. Its a 30 year old Transalp, so goodness knows when it was changed last. With new oil in the bike feels much better...less fork dive. I don't get that, since even old oil can't be compressible, unless there wasn't enough in.
Anyhoo, thanks again, and keep up the great vids. All the best to you and Penny.
Ps...I made a bit of mess...you make it look so easy 😆
Hi Robin, They probably feel better because the new oil has some body to it.. after years of being mushed through the damper rod hols the oil looses it viscosity and becomes like water.. its job is to pass through the holes and for the force needed to slow down the bounce...but once the oil become watery it gushes through the holes with less force, hence it feels more spongy.. always good to do it every two years along with your brake fluid if you can buddy..!! glad the video helped you.. keep in touch aye.. Del.
As usual, very confidence inspiring stuff, Del. At that price, I'd be a sucker not to buy a sucker!
Cheers! 👍
haha see what you did there mate, thank you for your support!
Your channel is excellent so Thankyou. I don't think your missus gets enough credit for doing a perfect job on the camera tho. Thanks Lady😊
Thank you so much for recognising what goes on behind the scenes, it sure is a lot of work!😊
Yet another great Dellboy Vid! 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you! 👍
Great video , no bs just straight at it 👍
Cheer Kirk, glad you enjoyed it buddy.
Thanks ever so much for doing these videos
I recently purchased a 2012 HD softail CVO convertible
With only 19k miles
With almost no history for service
You’ve become my most watched RUclipsr
😎
Thanks Shawn, glad the videos can help you, and thank you for your support.
Good work Del 👍🏻
Thank you Aiden, appreciated...
Great vlog for the Softail series 👍👍👍😎
Thanks Geoff, works on a Softail too! Hope you're feeling better too...D&Px
Another nice wee 'how to' Del mate, so it's been added to the playlist. Off for a walk around Portland now with Eliza after landing yesterday. Awrabest mate. Al. 😉❤🤘
Thanks buddy, look forward to seeing you in the week!
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Thank you for sharing!
Easy job . Morning penny
Great video, Del!
Great job del nice one always great tips thanks colin
great video love the suck thing save taking fork out and put a spring your step lol
Good job 👏 if I want to replace the lower fork to chrome stile ? Is te same process?
Great video buddy, that old oil was minging, god knows what it would be like after 50000 miles, cheers Stu
Sure thing Stu, it's such a 5min job, I truly don't know why they just don't tuck it in to the major service which is every 10k, specially seeing as Harley well know that most of their bikes will never cover 50k in their lifetime!
Excellent video, thanks!
nicely done,all the best.
Good video. Thanks.
I stumbled across your videos and i think it was the quickest that i subscribed to a channel. they are so awesome; they make me want to be British. lol i found a 1997 heritage that was sadly wasting away in my landlord's barn. You cover everything that i need to do in this entire series, and it's greatly appreciated. i apologize if i missed it, but any idea what size socket the forks take? ive ordered a manual, but it hasn't arrived yet. keep up the good work!
Hi Jamey, thank you so much for your kind words and welcome aboard! I'm glad the videos can help you with your project and wish you well with it, so but I don't remember the size of the fork cap off hand, it's 10pm at night here and I'm not near my garage, or a manual, but it's all in the service manual when it arrives! Take care and enjoy your project, Del
In the manual it say two different amount of oil one for carteidge and different amount for the other
Always cool material!!! 🤘😉
Cool time saving gadgets 😎👊
Too right... use it for all sorts !
My Fat Bob takes 26.5oz in each leg! I would have to buy four of those little HD bottles. Think I'll try Maxima Vtwin 20.
Thank you so much for this video. Do you have any more Dyna Switchback Fld maintenance videos?
Most welcome, we have many Harley videos in the play lists, many on Dyna's that will cover most jobs..
Great video as always Del, pump ordered and will check the quantity I remove against the service manual to make sure its all out as best it can be.
You and Penny are so helpful and I have gained more and more confidence to work on my own bike, having a better understanding of the methods involved takes away the doubt.
Take care both of you
Thanks Mark, glad the video could give you some insight and help make things easier. Good luck with it and have fun with the job.. Take care and have a good weekend too.. D&Px
Good video👍
The King's English is kinda hard to follow but good video
Hi can you show how to fix a harley softtail 2013 with fuel injection, possible vaccum leak running lean , rough idle after start up, cures causes and how to fix please ,regards Derek
Hey man , Your a wealth of Info for my 99 heritage 1340cc - 80ci EVO Thanks
Most welcome sir.. Glad to help!
Nice one. I think Wemoto will have a run on those pumps...I just ordered one 😀!
Glad to hear it mate, much appreciated
The fork oil on my FLD was replaced at the 10K mile service when the bike was about 4 years old...
That's more like it, can't understand why they recommend 50k miles?!
Step One on my FLHRCI is to remove the headlamp housing!
Great video and brilliant idea with the pump. One question.....did you drop the wheel back on the floor before putting the top caps back on.... wouldn't that put the spring under tension and make it harder to get back on....or did I miss watch that part? Is it easy to get the non cartridge type caps back on and tight? (I know...that's more than one question!). Any advice greatly received....this video has given me the confidence to try my own now, thanks.
Cartridge forks aren't under pressure like regular forks are, the spring is held between the cap and the damper rod with a separate fastener, so you can put the wheel on the ground and still do the cap up!
So for the non cartridge fork (the R/H grip side on the bike shown) do you put the cap back on with the wheel still in the air and do you need a special tool or not? Thanks.
You mentioned milage of 50,000. You stated how our harley's are low milage. This I agree with as in 2010 when I bought the Road King I checked out some of the Harleys for sale in some of the big main dealers in the US where they consider a 2 or 3 year old bike with between 20,000 and 25,000 as low milage, therefore their recommendation for a change of oil at 50,000 or 5 years.
I think it's a different dynamic there, being a bigger country with bigger distances and with everything spread out, but even still I think 2yrs is more than enough for the molecular structure to get broken down being forced through the damper rods thousands of times every ride... try it for yourself mate, it always makes a difference to the handling when you freshen up the fork oil , so that has to be worth it !
I don't make myself clear but I meant to agree with you, I generally change fluids evert 2 years should the milage be high or low it costs little money and an afternoon. NOT INCLUDING ENGINE OIL AS THIS DEPENDS ON MILAGE. In caps to highlight to others because engine oil as you know is important. What I was highlighting is what these guys do in milage and probably why HD state this. 25000 miles Its a lot of corners and bumps or should I say smooth straights in heir case.
I got your vibe there brother, and your agreement, I think you're right... it's a big country and it makes total sense that if they reckon on 25k in a year, then 50 is 2yrs and that's bang on the periodical time it should be changed, I think your policy is perfect, change them fluids as often as you can, you can hardly change oil too often can you lol... (obviously running in period not withstanding because it's important to let the engine run in before you change the oil).. if race bikes get fresh oil and an engine re-build every race, than that's certainly a benchmark to lead by .. I think the old saying goes here, too much is never enough ! Take care my friend and enjoy your weekend...
cool. Can you use the same trick to suck brake fluid through the caliper bleed nipple?
Possibly, i guess you'd need a tight seal on the tube.. not tried it myself.
Good vid but you skipped on how awkward it can be getting that cap back on the non cartridge leg 😆👍
another outstanding video del just makes everything so simple m8 cheers again iain
Thanks Ian, Much appreciated mate.
Why not reassemble and replace the cap with the fork fully extended, the reverse of the removal?
Hey Delboy, you mentioned in the video that if you dont have a cartridge tube you dont have to pull the fork out, so does that mean if you do have a cartridge that you do have to pull the fork out?
Yes!, if you have a (cartridge) you will have to (remove) the fork. Only (non) cartridge forks can be done without removing the forks.
I put heavy duty fork oil to remove the spongy feeling of my Electra Glide personal choice
I'd love you to do a video on how to carry an extra lid. Got a bandit n and had a tricky time this morning . Hope all is well with you and penny my friend
solo......F.. the bitch!! ride with the boys!! outlaw style!
I was thinking about this method, and wanted to know if there were any downsides with this method. Good thing I have conventional forks on my bike.
Thank you for another informative lesson. 👍🏻
(P) Great job guys! easy with the right tools. I have a small oil pump which connects to the dip stick tube on my old Smart car as they don’t have a sump plug! 👍🏻
That's cool buddy, I didn't know that about the Smart cars, I've got a similar one for my van, I guess the fact a manfacturer designed it it shows it's a perfectly sensible praactice.. cheers buddy!
good vid, thanks.
Thanks Terry!
Thank you for the video/videos. I have a 02 Dyna FXDWG wideglide I would rather use the pump, no brainer in difficulty part to me the pump is easier! Question please Will the suction hose get past the spring on the first one you did. Left side or do I just remove it? And it just slides out correct? Thank you I work on cars and learning bikes. Thanks again
If you can just lift the spring out of the way then yes, it's a good idea because you can wipe it dry and it's less internal junk for the oil to cling to, so you get more out...
@@Moonfleet41 Hello sir what brand is that pump pls so I can find one Thank you
Awesome video. Does the 2019 Street Glide have two conventional forks or is one a cartridge?
I have to answer with 'I don't know' I'm afraid, as I never opened mine up, but it will be in the spec sheet for your bike so check with your dealer and they'll be able to confirm... it probably is the same as this one, but check to be sure!
Its The same For a softail Custom 2008? There is a grinding noise that I hear when I go over stones, and since 2008 the fluid has not been changed. Thanks.
Well any motorcycle will start to show problems if the fork oil hasn't been changed in 15 years ! so do that first at least, then see how it is !
I have always found forks a bit of a taboo, so thanks good video........
You're most welcome my friend, always drop us a line if you ever need any advice aye..
Merci super info! where to by pump!
Good job done Del. btw do the forks fit into conventional triple trees, with pinchbolts, as they seemed to come out so easy. The Switchback is such a nice bike.
They certainly do my friend, I wanted to keep the video focused so, perhaps, over edited that just a little... they are, indeed, conventional pinch bolts in convential yokes, that chrome cover is just a shroud that covers them up, and there are holes in the back of it to access the head of the pinch bolts... then you can just free up all the furniture below the fork, caliper, mudguard and axle etc., then undo the pinch bolts and slip the leg out... thanks for your kind words, the Switchback is a fabulous bike, the last of the Dynas!
Great viewing del sadly i do not own a harley but entertaining non the less.
gotta get one, before you die!