*This video is a broad overview of the different character classes in Diablo IV. Not going to bother with Tier List rankings because I think at this point its a waste of time. We could only play to lv 25 in the beta and everything is subject to change. Instead I chose to focus on a broad overview and talk about the pros and cons of each character class. Hopefully you guys enjoy the video. Later on in the week I will be posting a final impressions video* Twitch: www.twitch.tv/dbrunski125 Discord: discord.gg/xy3EynP Twitter: twitter.com/dbrunski125
Some important insights regarding druid: 1) We didnt get to play with druid class specialization, where you can pick up to 5 (!) strong passive bonuses (like 3% max hp heal every crit with shapeshift skills). 2) Druid is the only class who has crushing blow, devs just took it out for beta. Everyone here surely knows how OP crushing blow is, and if its druid only.... 3) Druid offers more than triple of build diversity than other classes, since he has most talents to choose from and his legendaries are craaaaaaazy specific. 4) MANY things in beta were bugged for druid, making him feeling weaker - raven pets stopped attacking after some time, talents that increase spirit cost but also buff damage only increase the spirit cost without actually buffing damage. 5) Druid is the "synergy" class. Once you are able to combine spells and talents, he becomes very good, but makes him weak early on. Barb has more legendary slots. Necro is least dependant on gear. Rogue is doing nice moaning and wheezing noises. Sorc has most flavour and ability to persue very specific build or playstyle. We simply experienced only the worst druid has to offer, but we cant judge him based on that.
I don’t want builds to depend on affixes or certain effects just to be relevant. When you were talking about Druid/barb needing good gear it just reminded me of d2 how enigma is needed for every build to even semi compete
DB, always a pleasure! I levelled a Barbarian to 25 during the closed beta & only really struggled vs the boss at the level 25 stronghold. I ran out of time in the beta so I didn’t actually have time to get some better gear, I had him almost beat a couple times. Resource / skill management felt good to me on him but I didn’t mess about with build to much either as I didn’t have time due to work. Open beta a levelled a Druid to 25 with some good legendary items. It feels like the generation of Spirit needs a good buff, I didn’t take the passive skill that gave up to 30% increase as points were so limited. I also find the fact some skills also have cool downs (which to me at base need shortening) a bit of an odd mix. One of the other to me is better for a class. I made a werewolf build & had the werewolf companions that spread rabies. Went all in on poison & it worked quite nicely, didn’t struggle against anything really but the TTK on some elites was in sane, more so then say Den Mother. One dungeon with goat men must’ve taken me 25 mins to clear & the pack of elites took me 10 or so mins to kill. Crazy. I did level & Necro to 20 also with a corpse explosion build so I’ve seen two side of the coin playing two melee builds & I have to say it was such a shift in experience. Was literally taking me a quarter of the time to clear the same content. I still want to play as a Druid, I want to play a shape shifting build. Kind of glad the overwhelming opinion is that it needs tweaking & they’ll do so before launch. Two things that I found just from a skill usages in general. 1) it feels like you’re really hamstrung on the skill bar. If you want an ult in your rotation it should be on say R2+L2 or right thumb stick (playing Xbox) to free up a single use button. 2) Generally speaking I didn’t think any ults were worth loosing an active skill slot for. Due to the really long cool down & they just seemed not worth it in general. Call of the ancients felt poor as did the werewolf one for Druid too was even worse.
I was able to 25 all the classes too between the two beta tests. The barbarian was my favorite, but I struggle to find anyone that built one the same way I did. A few were close, but I think people tried to pigeonhole the abilities into the previous two games. I also managed to get the Butcher to drop his axe for the barb, I was shocked to see a unique in the beta.
I think that’s why it’s too early to call for nerfs or buffs especially with barb people could’ve just skilled it wrong. But I will say being melee for boss fights is more of a struggle than casters due to the lack of potion drops and no life on hit early etc
I found druids gen to be slightly low, but it smoothed out very quickly by specing into the 30% increased gen node, and ran blood howl with the increased attack speed. Ran the ranged storm basic, and it does require actual positional gameplay but id be full spirit in 2-4 basics. It felt rewarding to use up to for basics also after getting the legendary that scales a core skill dmg after doing a few basics.
The druid build that I had a blast with and noticed some great synergies was Stormstrike, Lightning Storm, Wolf Companion, Blood Howl, Earthen Bulwark and Hurricane. The blood howl was a instant 20% heal + IAS which helped slightly with spirit generation. Earthen bulwark was a nice unstoppable to pop when needed and a huge barrier. Between those two i literally forgot about using potions except for some boss encounters. Outside of that the Stormstrike applied vulnerable in an AoE fashion which worked nicely with lightning storms nice AoE damage. Hurricanes slow and Lightning strikes immovable worked nicely with the wolf companions ability to apply increased damage to crowd controlled enemies let me 1 shot most elites. I used this build from the get go and nuked packs of mob packs with ease and it worked nicely with bosses barely while barely using potions.
Setting aside the serious issue of resource generation of the Druid, damage on basic attacks feels low. Significantly so in contrast to Rogue/Necro/Sorc.
So many people went corpse explosion, I got some bone spear gear and had 6k crits with my necro, one shoting elite mobs, it was nuts, can’t wait for the may 12 beta now, gonna try the chain lightning sorc, even with the nerf it looks fun
Bone necro w/ low level corpse explosion was awesome for boss damage and clear speed. Did world boss too and it took some time to figure out on necro but definitely doable and high dps.
There was a build problem with Necromancer. You could get an aspect that would make it so your Blood Mist (turn immune for 3 sec) skill would detonate all nearby corpses, and reduce bloodmist's cooldown for each corpse detonated, by up to 3 seconds if put on a 2h weapon. This combined with corpse-generating skills and skill-upgrades would make you able to chain-cast blood mist and be perma-immune. Besides, it had no cast time on detonating the corpses, so it could literally blow up 20 corpses instantly and obliterate anything.
I leveled two melee rogues to 25. It would be difficult to say which skills I prefer because both playthroughs were a blast. Both felt fairly strong compared to Druid and Barb. On par with Sorc. Faster to kill stuff than my Necro builds, but I chugged a lot of potions too. Necro is strong, but slow, and most people consider speed and strength to be the same thing. I'll probably start with a Necro but always also have a melee Rogue. Rogue was just too much fun.
Twisting Blades + Shadow Imbue Rogue was both very strong (just behind necro and sorc imo for their power during what we saw) and also the most fun I had during the beta.
I didn't get much time with Necro, had to go out of town for training at the end of last week and spent most of the weekend travelling back. But I agree with the Necro. CE brings the shock/awe factor and I loved it, but bosses were a bit meh without corpse generation. Sorcerer was a blast, I will probably main that or Necro on launch. Barbarian felt underwhelming to me, but I have a LOT to learn about optimization in this game as the itemization is a more like D3 than D2(at least that's my understanding, don't @ me, people!!!) Excited to see how the game goes on launch!!!! See y'all in Sanctuary!
Gotta be honest, one of my favorite builds was the lightning Druid. You had to bounce between resource builder, and lightning, which was a bit of an issue with distance between packs… but I enjoyed it a lot. I’ll probably start Druid in hopes late game builds/affixes for legendary helps lightning uptime
I loved it as well! I found the legendary ring that lets tornadoes seek and switched to wind after. It was really good. I like wind shear to build resources and proc vulnerable but lightning storm felt SO good.
@@casualgamingdad2424 I wish they would lengthen the time it stays active at maximum bolts, 5 seconds made it feel rushed. But if they did 7-10 seconds it would be a blast 🤤 hoping late game legendary items help that!
@@mvurnakesable I believe there will be a legendary that does that. It might be the copium I’ve been smoking lately but an extra few seconds would be SICK!
Have to say after trying them all that I agree with pretty much all of your feedback. I leveled the Druid the most. I was the most excited about it having played at Blizzcon in 2019 and despite it being a bit weaker at first I enjoyed it so much. It has a lot of build diversity as you pointed out and I felt once you find some appropriate items that it starts to really shine. I’ll probably be starting with the Druid but I found all the classes to be fun. I’m so glad the melee for Druid has cleave. The bear feels tanky and the wolf with shred literally shreds.
Yup well said iam a barbarian main through and through, but i enjoyed the druid so much im cerrain i will be starting druid on release. They really captured the essence of the druid the storm skills are my favorite in the game
First legendary I found for Necro was dagger that makes corpse explosion every time I touch corpse as blood mist (skill that turns you into blood mist and you are immune). Then I also somehow got (don't remember if that was legendary or skill upgrade) cooldown reduce on blood mist every time corpse explosion blows up or something. Then also got legendary that cancel movement penalty on blood mist and blood mist to leave one corpse per sec on the ground With all those I was able to be pretty much in blood mist form all the time (so immune to everything) doing sometimes 10 corpse explosions in one sec. Every time I have seen big group of mobs ahead I was smiling :)
Can’t say I’m impressed. Still reminds me of Diablo 3: Ressource generation, Skills on 1-4, same class “features” like infinite CE on necro. I know it is done to avoid the D2 gameplay “everything into vitality”, but there was a way to do it differently. I think they should more go back to D2 mechanics and gameplay: PvP, powerful rune words, gothic atmosphere. But maybe I am wrong and this game is really gonna be great
This is a great video. People need to remember this is an overview of what he played and his experiences. What DB said about each class is accurate so good job on that! In my experience, the melee rogue is the best overall class. It does more dps than a sorc, less than a necro but it has way more maneuverability and it's not a potato playstyle like the necro. Everyone's going to have their own preferences but I think most of us can agree that launch is going to be super fun!
For the Rouge, use either Flurry or Twisting Blades with the appropriate aspect that boosts the skill. Combined this with Shadow Imbue and Rouge is super strong.
It is going to be a more difficult levelling experience at launch since they really upped the amount of legendary drops in the beta so the item dependent classes will be even harder! But at the same time the barbarian will probably be OP late game due to having more weapon slots for more additional aspects than any other class! Also the druid may really pick up in power once we have access to those spirit boons as well that not many people seem to be considering... I'm overall quite happy with the game. It had some bugs and issues in the beta but it was overall quite fun and fresh after playing many hours in D3 and thousands of hours in D2! June can't come quick enough!
Leveled a Wizard and Rogue, both were super fun. Looking forward to the release as the end game content is going to be a surprise. The problem with the beta is lvl 25 is a small glimpse at the overall game. Just like any other Diablo leveling up is 1% of the game then 99% of the real content is the end game grind for paragon / the best gear. I'm impressed with the glimpse of the 1% we've seen but am very interested in what the actual end game will feel like.
I played only Druid and Sorceress, so I'll comment only on them two. First, let me say that the thing I like the most about games of whatever sort is building the characters and finding the different synergies between their skills and items. So, the Sorc is very powerful, that's obvious to anyone. She'll probably get nerfed across the board. What I liked the most about the class is the Unique Mechanic, which is deceptively simple and quite ingenious. It is often build defining, or could otherwise simply allow for unique twists on the build you're making. Frost Nova seems like the strongest and most versatile Enchantment to me, which you can slot in any build whatsoever (even only as an Enchantment), especially with the Vulnerable upgrade. What I didn't like is the Key Passives, which are all quite strict and are not suitable for hybrid builds. Aside from only the DR Lightning one (and only half of its effect), and the Shatter one if used with Frost Nova. As for the Druid, its biggest (or possibly only) problem is expressed in NUMBERS. Either the cooldowns are too long, or the damage is too low. Mainly the damage is too low. Bump up the damage just enough to improve the leveling experience and everything will be perfect. Another thing that might be perceived as a problem is resource generation, but maybe it fits in the "NUMBERS" category too. Some passive regeneration, or just increased generation from Basic skills will fix it. Some items and other effects might make it better in the late game, but it is still kinda annoying to watch Sorcerers get from 0 to 100% Mana in 2sec while kiting and doing nothing. The thing I agree with you is that Druid is gonna be gear-dependent. From what I have seen (which I'm unsure if all of it's official info), the items are what will define the build of a Druid. The Unique mechanic is rather boring and just complements the character. But the items are going to be what mixes things up and allows for unique hybrid takes along with the Key Passives. I'm already having enormous fun making different builds for the Druid and Sorceress, even if there's a chance they'll not be available after launch due to whatever changes.
chain lightning is the best , besides anything necro. and rogue is overall a good class. your comment about sorc spells feeling the same was a little weird because i feel the opposite, i thought everything felt different.
Yeah, you missed out on a lot of aspects that makes the rogue actually really powerful. I personally felt that the rogue was overpowered through my experience playing the rogue. I found myself running in the middle of packs of enemies, and blowing them all to hell in like two moves
I entirely agree that we are spending way too much time fixated on the Balance for the beta. Numbers tweeks can be done in half an hour and completely turn balance on its head. I think its way more informative to talk about how each playstyle feels and if there are a variety of build options for doing different types of content. Personally, despite being arguably the strongest in beta, I felt the sorc lacked interest as the entire class boiled down to Light, Cold, or fire, and pretty clear build paths beyond that, where the two new classes (druid and necro) had entirely different feels depending on how you chose to build them out. Now that is a subjective opinion, but its a comparison that seems lost in a lot of discussion about DPS or clear speed, and I'm glad you eluded to it.
while I do think balance is a crucial part of gameplay, I'm not too opposed to some classes having a somewhat harder time than others getting through stuff. I played the druid through the open beta and while it was definitely generally weaker than other classes, I still had a blast with the genuine difficulty of each boss that I encountered - every boss was memorable because I had to actually try to win. On the other hand, the sorcerer is the classic starter character where the game comes easy to them, and I think a basic and powerful class like that existing is good for speedrunners and just those new to the franchise that want to dip their toes in without a significant challenge. I do wish the Druid could better compare to other classes but at the same time it's neat having a playstyle that puts your ARPG expertise to the test.
I had an absolute blast with Necro and the sorcerer was fun but agree on the spells offered. They all looked visually cool but wasn’t really offering a different play style just like oh here is a different spell to kill. Totally agree about the sorc thoughts. Its either i’m playing necro or sorc during launch and one or the other after the first season begins. I may skip seasons altogether but will try it if it offers something unique.
Rogue > Barb > Nec > Sorc > Druid. Rogue is highly mobile, tons of damage, and is comfy. The only class I've seen solo Ashava. Barbarian's rough start keep it 2nd place but Upheaval is insane and there's vids of Upheaval crits doing up to 359k damage Necro is easy to play. You got your summons and this is free and they can hard carry. Lots of sustain with blood and free damage with corpse explosion. Sorc is mobile with lots of CDR and shielding options. Chain lightning is goated. Teleport is goated. Frost Nova is goated. Druid is Druid.
I'm just a casual player but I played a lot over the past two weekends. I enjoyed playing Necro the most, it was fun without being too easy for me. Rogue was challenging, but in a fun way. Sorc felt a little too easy and I lost interest at about lvl 15. Both Barb and Druid were challenging and boring for me, so I gave those up at about lvl 15 as well. I'm definitely looking forward to the game launch in a couple of months.
I ended up with a similar lunge/ww barb and leap, super fun after doing a ww barb during ladder season 2 in d2r. Druid felt horrible on some of the story bosses as a werebear, hopefully it's smoother to play in the full game.
I felt that the ranged rouge attacks hit harder than the melee ones on different rouge playthroughs. The sound design on all of it is stellar tho, shots have that good UMPH to them.
I think that Druid’s Spirit should generate by itself. Then he will be fine. He just need some gear and get his special’s, that we didn’t have access to in the beta. With the same D2 wind druid build. I cleared everything faster than my Hydra Sorceress. But the aspect: Tornado seeks out 4-8 is needed.
I actually didn't find the Druids Sp gen to be that bad. I weaved basics into my rot of abs. There was a noticeable struggle with certain bosses in sustain. I found the necro's power to be about even with the glaring negatives in mobility and corpse sustain. I had to choose between corpse Explo or summon when my minions fell to bosses (all the time, even with the Master perk) as both abs consumed the corpse. The Rogue and Barb just steamrolled over bosses, no challenge there, and sorc was really squishy and weak on alot of the bosses with adds(Spider boss).
I played a pure earth druid (except I had wind shear for the penetrating resource generation) and it was a slog. Kinda fun tho. Oh and on my necro I had the scythe skeletal warriors with the option to have them slice off corpses, plus 3 ranks in the corpse generation passive, and I always had tons of fresh corpses in boss fights. FYI.
There were several legendaries that fundamentally improved the druid. For example, I found one that gave me 25 life (or fortify) every time I switched to a human form. When you combined bear and earth, it was quite powerful since you would get damage bonuses and stun/immobilise bonuses from being fortified. Before this legendary, the druid class felt extremely derpy where none of the skills really tied well into other skills even when they were in the same "category". From this, I feel like that some of the legendary effects should be just class skills that you can put points into. The existing effects are just plain meh and have little to no impact.
I played rogue with the vulnerable, basic skill, and flurry and the healing on it was pretty crazy and I did pretty good damage as well. It seemed like it was harder for a flurry build to have the infinite energy that the flying knives build could have, which was even better, but requires legendary item(s). I think that low level, Rob was one of the only characters that is better in melee than ranged. It was still slower than a sorcerer but it was comparable
i had the pulverize skill with a werewolf generator skill. i had no spirit issues. it didnt feel that way. i also used hurrican to get vulnerable for enemies. my legendaries was 45% faster attack speed on a neck for basic skills. on a ring for every XX amount i heal i gained 15 spirit. these 2 in combination helped a lot with the spirit generation. i had 2 legendaries for pulverize. it was so much fun. one made it into a mix of upheavel and hammer of the ancient and the other let it stay like an earthquake from the barb. when i had 10 stacks for overpower it did 2 hits for 1k-1,2k dmg. but the melees felt not balanced compared to the casters. i hated this in d2 and it feels similar here. every caster is just superior and you need to have gear as melee to compete... nice... hello diablo 2.5
I think a good point you touched on is that we only played to lvl 25. In D2 it's normal that some characters are stronger for early leveling - e.g. Pala fire aura or Trapsin, and then some characters are stronger in late game - Barb, Sorc. So I think it's ok if the lvls 1-25 do not feel the same for all characters. We need to see the rest 🙂
I feel inclined to disagree. Maybe it's tolerable, but it's only ok for players who know the franchise. It would definitely be better for new players if the starting experience for all classes was equally fun.
I only had time to play the druid to level 20. I loved the options available for builds. It definitely felt weak until I had some legendaries. One major con for me is not staying in werebear or werewolf form for longer periods. I wanna be a cool wolf or bear running around not a sumo wrestler
I liked the barb a lot, I did a frenzy barb and just used 2 skills, never thought of liking the barb to be honest :D . Can't wait to see more of the legendary affixes, I found a cool one on my second char the druid which turned my wolves into werewolves which was pretty cool ^^
5:15 Regarding the comment "sorceress has no unique play style". Perhaps many of them are similar, but I went a high crit chain lightning/crackling energy build that worked best in melee range of enemies. The build didn't feel as good as some of the hydra based builds seemed to be, but it felt unique in my opinion.
I found the necro fine VS ashava. I did die a couple of times. I think mostly because I wasn't paying enough attention. But also you did need to pay more attention due to only having the one dodge you had to anticipate attacks more
I only played Necro/Sorc but Necro just felt so much more powerful, and I wasn't even using the bloody mist legendary power. My sorc did okay, but the necro minions reeeeally carry the necro at least 1-25.
I enjoyed druid, barb and rogue, my least favorite when the necro and sorc because they are too stupidly easy, there is D3 for this. I would hope that they go the other direction and slow down these two classes as I really enjoy the slower leveling process. IMO. The other issues is that this was only to lvl 25 and there is so much more to be discovered.
once the full version comes out what drops you get and sparseness will tell the tale. i love the barb class, but felt i had to look for someone else's' builds and that didn't make him mine.
My pulverize druid didnt have problem with normal mobs but then i felt i was slow killing elites and bosses. But pulverize was very good AoE move. In my list druid still gets 3th spot for me, as interesting chars to play. And definatly wanna try build up some kind of druid build around pulverize.
i agree with u on the mage thing .what thay should do is make every element do something different like in D2 or hellgate london like slow/heal hp/stun/DvH/dot/spread/weekn/drain sp/knock bak/knock down/pull in/ & so on...... & what's up with gems not doing elements effects?
I played all 5 classes to level 25, i would agree with all of this, i did find the Barbarian a little boring until level 10, but maybe it was just the build i decided on…
Same here, I already know from listening to endgame beta testers that resource generation will not be a problem later on and you will be able to spam your main skills at will.
People really need to hold onto their panties. This was a lvl 25 beta where not every class has access to the same stuff. Barb and druid had neither of their specials. Not only that, their trees appeared to be geared towards higher levels. Their skills were ok, but there is tons of amp damage on the trees. At first, I thought cataclysm was pretty terrible. There is a whole tree on the other side that boosts lightning and that skill. There just want enough points to put into them. The other skills were strong early. Not only that cataclysm was constantly hitting ashava for damage because she was in the screen the whole time. The barb bleed build will be pretty op with the 100% bleed damage and blood explosions capstone. You just didn't get points to put into it.
Both earth druid and shapeshifting are very tanky. Earth druid has mobility issues and lacks of EOE. Shapeshifting seemed a little weak to me in terms of damage output, but I didn't get the chance to equip it properly.
I found the Druid the most fun to play. Loved the variety of skills and the flavor of them all. I agree with you it does feel less powerful than sorc, but so did all the other classes. I hope they nerf sorc a bit rather than buff the others -- I think the game could use a little higher difficulty in general.
100% agree. The games difficulty felt about right with Barbarian and Druid. Trash mobs were still trash, but more encounters seemed prolonged and interesting. I felt I had very little engagement playing Necro and even Sorcerer and the game was too trivial.
This is a meme right? The other classes should be brought UP to Sorcs level, nobody should be nerfed wtf the goal is to have powerful feeing characters….
I Agree with you, I also think the leveling curve it's too fast, in lvl 25 you almost know all skills and probably in lvl 35 you already spend most of importants skill points of your build already, don't know what we're gonna do the rest of the 65 leves (besides paragon boards). Should be slow down make you feel some effort to get that last skill
It's fast because the legendary drop rates were increased by 3x for the beta, thus the early power creep was obviously amplified...leveling with a lot less legendaries will be much slower.
Storm/Landslide Druid is really solid for all the haters out there. Is the start a bit slower? It definitely is but lots of games start slow (D2, WoW classic). Arc lash for sorcs is an OP starter and then necros having skeletons right out of the gate was just silly
I didn't like the effectiveness of corpse explosion at all. Maybe the damage will not scale so well later in the game, but I doubt It. It just made almost completely irrelevant to test the other skills. It doesn't make any sense that the tiniest of enemies can produce a corpse that detonates with no resourse cost whatsoever. No mana or cooldown! You just procede to chain CE and that's a wrap. Meanwhile any melee is being completely miserable trying to attack and manage resources. I don't know If it need chance, but I would make so that certain enemies didn't drop corpse large enough, or even give the corpses classes like"small-medium-large" and scale the damage based on the size. I see that a lot of people loved necro, but for me it felt too "cheap".
That barbarian game play hurts me. All those" immune! " constantly popping up and the conduit shrine, I really wish the conduit shrine had died with D3. Just an utterly ridiculous thing. I'm not a fan of a bunch of cooldowns and resource generator/spender builds/mechanics. I found a lot of my skill choices when leveling were based on if it has a long cooldown choose something else. I do admit that the Necro was really fun to play though. The Reaper class of skeleton summons spawned corpses when attacking enemies, that's what I used on bosses and in general. Having no resource cost felt kind of busted for corpse explosion, but I'm not sure how I'd change it. I'm scared they'll slap another cool down into the game for "balance". Didn't get anyone to 25 besides the necro; I was already tired of having to follow npcs around and wait to talk to them in the position I was allowed to talk to them in then hit escape to skip dialogue or cutscenes. I got the gist of the game, the break in pace and combat of how the story is implemented put me off wanting to get them all to 25.
Zoo druid is OP as you know what :D 3 companions 25k damage each :D Tornado druid is also fine :D We just need to figure out how everything works and it needs more time. I'm sure if the full game comes out we will be okay.
Necro on Ashava is fine...just stay close to Ashava...boots with 2 evade charges work well...i think the devs purposely limit the agility of the necro, can't have everything...having tanks, massive aoe and also movement mobility?
i loved spamming blood mist ovsly that wont make into final game but i hope they keep the corpse explosion to all corpses close to you mechanic from the legendary power and just remove the immune on bloodmist. i think blood mist would still be good with out it and that's the only real way to fix it outside changing the corpse exp mechanic. if you just remove the cd reduction from the legendary power you will still be able to reduce it to zero with blood surge overpower 2 seconds plus points into blood mist 14 cd ish and cool down reduction you will still be able to reduce it to zero so yeah hope they fix this in a reasonable way that doesn't totally destroy the corpse exp mechanic it was fun just being immune while doing it haha is questionable haha
@@Dbrunski125 Yea that's why I don't want to follow into the hype of any of these click bait build vids or saying this game is going to be too easy, when they have a perfect geared out level 25 against 1:1 monsters... All i know is when i went to fight the strong hold and they had +2 or +3 levels they were significantly harder even with gear. So going to go with the wait and see for any real critique or review of D4 after release. I enjoyed what I've played so far. Thank you for the content and hope to see more on the druid, had to wait for an entire sequel from D2 to even play it again, lol. Crossing fingers for feral late game!
My problem with druid is the leveling experience. If you tell me that crappy, slow and weak leveling is intended then the game has a problem because most people won't willingly get themselves a class that give them a shit leveling experience. Not to mention, the gear addict that seems to be the druid after the devs said something along the lines of "characters won't be as gear dependant as in D3"; seems to me druid didn't get the memo.
*This video is a broad overview of the different character classes in Diablo IV. Not going to bother with Tier List rankings because I think at this point its a waste of time. We could only play to lv 25 in the beta and everything is subject to change. Instead I chose to focus on a broad overview and talk about the pros and cons of each character class. Hopefully you guys enjoy the video. Later on in the week I will be posting a final impressions video*
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Some important insights regarding druid: 1) We didnt get to play with druid class specialization, where you can pick up to 5 (!) strong passive bonuses (like 3% max hp heal every crit with shapeshift skills). 2) Druid is the only class who has crushing blow, devs just took it out for beta. Everyone here surely knows how OP crushing blow is, and if its druid only.... 3) Druid offers more than triple of build diversity than other classes, since he has most talents to choose from and his legendaries are craaaaaaazy specific. 4) MANY things in beta were bugged for druid, making him feeling weaker - raven pets stopped attacking after some time, talents that increase spirit cost but also buff damage only increase the spirit cost without actually buffing damage. 5) Druid is the "synergy" class. Once you are able to combine spells and talents, he becomes very good, but makes him weak early on. Barb has more legendary slots. Necro is least dependant on gear. Rogue is doing nice moaning and wheezing noises. Sorc has most flavour and ability to persue very specific build or playstyle. We simply experienced only the worst druid has to offer, but we cant judge him based on that.
I don’t want builds to depend on affixes or certain effects just to be relevant. When you were talking about Druid/barb needing good gear it just reminded me of d2 how enigma is needed for every build to even semi compete
Always value your inputs. This makes me want to play the Druid more.
DB, always a pleasure!
I levelled a Barbarian to 25 during the closed beta & only really struggled vs the boss at the level 25 stronghold. I ran out of time in the beta so I didn’t actually have time to get some better gear, I had him almost beat a couple times. Resource / skill management felt good to me on him but I didn’t mess about with build to much either as I didn’t have time due to work.
Open beta a levelled a Druid to 25 with some good legendary items. It feels like the generation of Spirit needs a good buff, I didn’t take the passive skill that gave up to 30% increase as points were so limited. I also find the fact some skills also have cool downs (which to me at base need shortening) a bit of an odd mix. One of the other to me is better for a class.
I made a werewolf build & had the werewolf companions that spread rabies. Went all in on poison & it worked quite nicely, didn’t struggle against anything really but the TTK on some elites was in sane, more so then say Den Mother. One dungeon with goat men must’ve taken me 25 mins to clear & the pack of elites took me 10 or so mins to kill. Crazy.
I did level & Necro to 20 also with a corpse explosion build so I’ve seen two side of the coin playing two melee builds & I have to say it was such a shift in experience. Was literally taking me a quarter of the time to clear the same content.
I still want to play as a Druid, I want to play a shape shifting build. Kind of glad the overwhelming opinion is that it needs tweaking & they’ll do so before launch.
Two things that I found just from a skill usages in general.
1) it feels like you’re really hamstrung on the skill bar. If you want an ult in your rotation it should be on say R2+L2 or right thumb stick (playing Xbox) to free up a single use button.
2) Generally speaking I didn’t think any ults were worth loosing an active skill slot for. Due to the really long cool down & they just seemed not worth it in general. Call of the ancients felt poor as did the werewolf one for Druid too was even worse.
We need a stats bar for the Necro summons, I had no idea what bonuses or stats they had at all time
I would like a number of how many summons I have first hard to tell when fighting
@@Storm-gt3kg There's an indicator that shows the number of summons you have already. It turns green when you have max summons for that type.
I was able to 25 all the classes too between the two beta tests. The barbarian was my favorite, but I struggle to find anyone that built one the same way I did. A few were close, but I think people tried to pigeonhole the abilities into the previous two games.
I also managed to get the Butcher to drop his axe for the barb, I was shocked to see a unique in the beta.
Uniques had +300% drop chance in beta
I think that’s why it’s too early to call for nerfs or buffs especially with barb people could’ve just skilled it wrong. But I will say being melee for boss fights is more of a struggle than casters due to the lack of potion drops and no life on hit early etc
I found druids gen to be slightly low, but it smoothed out very quickly by specing into the 30% increased gen node, and ran blood howl with the increased attack speed. Ran the ranged storm basic, and it does require actual positional gameplay but id be full spirit in 2-4 basics. It felt rewarding to use up to for basics also after getting the legendary that scales a core skill dmg after doing a few basics.
close combat rogue felt amazing 4 me
The druid build that I had a blast with and noticed some great synergies was Stormstrike, Lightning Storm, Wolf Companion, Blood Howl, Earthen Bulwark and Hurricane. The blood howl was a instant 20% heal + IAS which helped slightly with spirit generation. Earthen bulwark was a nice unstoppable to pop when needed and a huge barrier. Between those two i literally forgot about using potions except for some boss encounters. Outside of that the Stormstrike applied vulnerable in an AoE fashion which worked nicely with lightning storms nice AoE damage. Hurricanes slow and Lightning strikes immovable worked nicely with the wolf companions ability to apply increased damage to crowd controlled enemies let me 1 shot most elites. I used this build from the get go and nuked packs of mob packs with ease and it worked nicely with bosses barely while barely using potions.
Setting aside the serious issue of resource generation of the Druid, damage on basic attacks feels low. Significantly so in contrast to Rogue/Necro/Sorc.
Agreed
My favorite class was melee twisting blades/ shadow imbued Rogue. Loved dashing through enemies too.
Is fun
Twisting blades is probably the best boss killer skill in game.
Did u guys have the legendary for it 🔥
So many people went corpse explosion, I got some bone spear gear and had 6k crits with my necro, one shoting elite mobs, it was nuts, can’t wait for the may 12 beta now, gonna try the chain lightning sorc, even with the nerf it looks fun
Bone necro w/ low level corpse explosion was awesome for boss damage and clear speed. Did world boss too and it took some time to figure out on necro but definitely doable and high dps.
That bone spirit oneshot most elites/bosses for me
There was a build problem with Necromancer. You could get an aspect that would make it so your Blood Mist (turn immune for 3 sec) skill would detonate all nearby corpses, and reduce bloodmist's cooldown for each corpse detonated, by up to 3 seconds if put on a 2h weapon. This combined with corpse-generating skills and skill-upgrades would make you able to chain-cast blood mist and be perma-immune. Besides, it had no cast time on detonating the corpses, so it could literally blow up 20 corpses instantly and obliterate anything.
I leveled two melee rogues to 25. It would be difficult to say which skills I prefer because both playthroughs were a blast. Both felt fairly strong compared to Druid and Barb. On par with Sorc. Faster to kill stuff than my Necro builds, but I chugged a lot of potions too. Necro is strong, but slow, and most people consider speed and strength to be the same thing. I'll probably start with a Necro but always also have a melee Rogue. Rogue was just too much fun.
Twisting Blades + Shadow Imbue Rogue was both very strong (just behind necro and sorc imo for their power during what we saw) and also the most fun I had during the beta.
I didn't get much time with Necro, had to go out of town for training at the end of last week and spent most of the weekend travelling back. But I agree with the Necro. CE brings the shock/awe factor and I loved it, but bosses were a bit meh without corpse generation. Sorcerer was a blast, I will probably main that or Necro on launch. Barbarian felt underwhelming to me, but I have a LOT to learn about optimization in this game as the itemization is a more like D3 than D2(at least that's my understanding, don't @ me, people!!!) Excited to see how the game goes on launch!!!! See y'all in Sanctuary!
Gotta be honest, one of my favorite builds was the lightning Druid. You had to bounce between resource builder, and lightning, which was a bit of an issue with distance between packs… but I enjoyed it a lot.
I’ll probably start Druid in hopes late game builds/affixes for legendary helps lightning uptime
I loved it as well! I found the legendary ring that lets tornadoes seek and switched to wind after. It was really good. I like wind shear to build resources and proc vulnerable but lightning storm felt SO good.
@@casualgamingdad2424 I wish they would lengthen the time it stays active at maximum bolts, 5 seconds made it feel rushed. But if they did 7-10 seconds it would be a blast 🤤 hoping late game legendary items help that!
@@mvurnakesable I believe there will be a legendary that does that. It might be the copium I’ve been smoking lately but an extra few seconds would be SICK!
Have to say after trying them all that I agree with pretty much all of your feedback. I leveled the Druid the most. I was the most excited about it having played at Blizzcon in 2019 and despite it being a bit weaker at first I enjoyed it so much. It has a lot of build diversity as you pointed out and I felt once you find some appropriate items that it starts to really shine. I’ll probably be starting with the Druid but I found all the classes to be fun. I’m so glad the melee for Druid has cleave. The bear feels tanky and the wolf with shred literally shreds.
Yup well said iam a barbarian main through and through, but i enjoyed the druid so much im cerrain i will be starting druid on release. They really captured the essence of the druid the storm skills are my favorite in the game
@@Bricks3374 storm skills felt SO good
@@casualgamingdad2424 right?!?!?
It makes sense, each character was a little different in D2 as well. Going through Act 1 for the first time was easier with certain classes vs others
First legendary I found for Necro was dagger that makes corpse explosion every time I touch corpse as blood mist (skill that turns you into blood mist and you are immune). Then I also somehow got (don't remember if that was legendary or skill upgrade) cooldown reduce on blood mist every time corpse explosion blows up or something. Then also got legendary that cancel movement penalty on blood mist and blood mist to leave one corpse per sec on the ground With all those I was able to be pretty much in blood mist form all the time (so immune to everything) doing sometimes 10 corpse explosions in one sec. Every time I have seen big group of mobs ahead I was smiling :)
Can’t say I’m impressed.
Still reminds me of Diablo 3: Ressource generation, Skills on 1-4, same class “features” like infinite CE on necro.
I know it is done to avoid the D2 gameplay “everything into vitality”, but there was a way to do it differently.
I think they should more go back to D2 mechanics and gameplay: PvP, powerful rune words, gothic atmosphere.
But maybe I am wrong and this game is really gonna be great
Fire sorc using hydra and fireball enchant means you can sit back and enjoy the fireworks. Easiest build, even on the harder difficulty.
This is a great video. People need to remember this is an overview of what he played and his experiences. What DB said about each class is accurate so good job on that! In my experience, the melee rogue is the best overall class. It does more dps than a sorc, less than a necro but it has way more maneuverability and it's not a potato playstyle like the necro. Everyone's going to have their own preferences but I think most of us can agree that launch is going to be super fun!
For the Rouge, use either Flurry or Twisting Blades with the appropriate aspect that boosts the skill. Combined this with Shadow Imbue and Rouge is super strong.
agree, also poison trao is very good
trap*
penetrating shot w/ shadow imbue makes mobs go BOOM!!
One of the things I really enjoyed in d2 was the economy/trading. What are your thoughts on how d4's economy will be like?
It is going to be a more difficult levelling experience at launch since they really upped the amount of legendary drops in the beta so the item dependent classes will be even harder! But at the same time the barbarian will probably be OP late game due to having more weapon slots for more additional aspects than any other class! Also the druid may really pick up in power once we have access to those spirit boons as well that not many people seem to be considering... I'm overall quite happy with the game. It had some bugs and issues in the beta but it was overall quite fun and fresh after playing many hours in D3 and thousands of hours in D2! June can't come quick enough!
Leveled a Wizard and Rogue, both were super fun. Looking forward to the release as the end game content is going to be a surprise. The problem with the beta is lvl 25 is a small glimpse at the overall game. Just like any other Diablo leveling up is 1% of the game then 99% of the real content is the end game grind for paragon / the best gear. I'm impressed with the glimpse of the 1% we've seen but am very interested in what the actual end game will feel like.
I played only Druid and Sorceress, so I'll comment only on them two.
First, let me say that the thing I like the most about games of whatever sort is building the characters and finding the different synergies between their skills and items.
So, the Sorc is very powerful, that's obvious to anyone. She'll probably get nerfed across the board.
What I liked the most about the class is the Unique Mechanic, which is deceptively simple and quite ingenious.
It is often build defining, or could otherwise simply allow for unique twists on the build you're making.
Frost Nova seems like the strongest and most versatile Enchantment to me, which you can slot in any build whatsoever (even only as an Enchantment), especially with the Vulnerable upgrade.
What I didn't like is the Key Passives, which are all quite strict and are not suitable for hybrid builds. Aside from only the DR Lightning one (and only half of its effect), and the Shatter one if used with Frost Nova.
As for the Druid, its biggest (or possibly only) problem is expressed in NUMBERS. Either the cooldowns are too long, or the damage is too low. Mainly the damage is too low. Bump up the damage just enough to improve the leveling experience and everything will be perfect.
Another thing that might be perceived as a problem is resource generation, but maybe it fits in the "NUMBERS" category too. Some passive regeneration, or just increased generation from Basic skills will fix it. Some items and other effects might make it better in the late game, but it is still kinda annoying to watch Sorcerers get from 0 to 100% Mana in 2sec while kiting and doing nothing.
The thing I agree with you is that Druid is gonna be gear-dependent.
From what I have seen (which I'm unsure if all of it's official info), the items are what will define the build of a Druid.
The Unique mechanic is rather boring and just complements the character.
But the items are going to be what mixes things up and allows for unique hybrid takes along with the Key Passives.
I'm already having enormous fun making different builds for the Druid and Sorceress, even if there's a chance they'll not be available after launch due to whatever changes.
chain lightning is the best , besides anything necro. and rogue is overall a good class. your comment about sorc spells feeling the same was a little weird because i feel the opposite, i thought everything felt different.
Yeah, you missed out on a lot of aspects that makes the rogue actually really powerful. I personally felt that the rogue was overpowered through my experience playing the rogue. I found myself running in the middle of packs of enemies, and blowing them all to hell in like two moves
I entirely agree that we are spending way too much time fixated on the Balance for the beta. Numbers tweeks can be done in half an hour and completely turn balance on its head. I think its way more informative to talk about how each playstyle feels and if there are a variety of build options for doing different types of content.
Personally, despite being arguably the strongest in beta, I felt the sorc lacked interest as the entire class boiled down to Light, Cold, or fire, and pretty clear build paths beyond that, where the two new classes (druid and necro) had entirely different feels depending on how you chose to build them out. Now that is a subjective opinion, but its a comparison that seems lost in a lot of discussion about DPS or clear speed, and I'm glad you eluded to it.
while I do think balance is a crucial part of gameplay, I'm not too opposed to some classes having a somewhat harder time than others getting through stuff. I played the druid through the open beta and while it was definitely generally weaker than other classes, I still had a blast with the genuine difficulty of each boss that I encountered - every boss was memorable because I had to actually try to win. On the other hand, the sorcerer is the classic starter character where the game comes easy to them, and I think a basic and powerful class like that existing is good for speedrunners and just those new to the franchise that want to dip their toes in without a significant challenge. I do wish the Druid could better compare to other classes but at the same time it's neat having a playstyle that puts your ARPG expertise to the test.
I had an absolute blast with Necro and the sorcerer was fun but agree on the spells offered. They all looked visually cool but wasn’t really offering a different play style just like oh here is a different spell to kill. Totally agree about the sorc thoughts. Its either i’m playing necro or sorc during launch and one or the other after the first season begins. I may skip seasons altogether but will try it if it offers something unique.
The Necromancers skeletons are too strong. You can just go AFK at an event and the skeletons will farm exp for you 😂
He only likes to play OP classes without challanges
@@80Mrblueeyes Thats obviously going to and should get nerphed when released, you can just relax with your fake news.
Rogue > Barb > Nec > Sorc > Druid.
Rogue is highly mobile, tons of damage, and is comfy. The only class I've seen solo Ashava.
Barbarian's rough start keep it 2nd place but Upheaval is insane and there's vids of Upheaval crits doing up to 359k damage
Necro is easy to play. You got your summons and this is free and they can hard carry. Lots of sustain with blood and free damage with corpse explosion.
Sorc is mobile with lots of CDR and shielding options. Chain lightning is goated. Teleport is goated. Frost Nova is goated.
Druid is Druid.
I'm just a casual player but I played a lot over the past two weekends. I enjoyed playing Necro the most, it was fun without being too easy for me. Rogue was challenging, but in a fun way. Sorc felt a little too easy and I lost interest at about lvl 15. Both Barb and Druid were challenging and boring for me, so I gave those up at about lvl 15 as well. I'm definitely looking forward to the game launch in a couple of months.
I ended up with a similar lunge/ww barb and leap, super fun after doing a ww barb during ladder season 2 in d2r. Druid felt horrible on some of the story bosses as a werebear, hopefully it's smoother to play in the full game.
I felt that the ranged rouge attacks hit harder than the melee ones on different rouge playthroughs. The sound design on all of it is stellar tho, shots have that good UMPH to them.
First. AWESOME VID! GLAD U UPLOADED A REVIEW FOR THOSE CLASSES!! GG
I found building around barrage and vulnerable effective as a ranged rogue. But let's be honest, barrage is essentially a melee skill.
I think that Druid’s Spirit should generate by itself.
Then he will be fine. He just need some gear and get his special’s, that we didn’t have access to in the beta.
With the same D2 wind druid build. I cleared everything faster than my Hydra Sorceress.
But the aspect: Tornado seeks out 4-8 is needed.
I think a good way to lessen the spirit dependency for druid would be for howl to make it so you do not consume spirit for 10 secs
I actually didn't find the Druids Sp gen to be that bad. I weaved basics into my rot of abs. There was a noticeable struggle with certain bosses in sustain. I found the necro's power to be about even with the glaring negatives in mobility and corpse sustain. I had to choose between corpse Explo or summon when my minions fell to bosses (all the time, even with the Master perk) as both abs consumed the corpse. The Rogue and Barb just steamrolled over bosses, no challenge there, and sorc was really squishy and weak on alot of the bosses with adds(Spider boss).
I played a pure earth druid (except I had wind shear for the penetrating resource generation) and it was a slog. Kinda fun tho. Oh and on my necro I had the scythe skeletal warriors with the option to have them slice off corpses, plus 3 ranks in the corpse generation passive, and I always had tons of fresh corpses in boss fights. FYI.
There were several legendaries that fundamentally improved the druid. For example, I found one that gave me 25 life (or fortify) every time I switched to a human form. When you combined bear and earth, it was quite powerful since you would get damage bonuses and stun/immobilise bonuses from being fortified. Before this legendary, the druid class felt extremely derpy where none of the skills really tied well into other skills even when they were in the same "category".
From this, I feel like that some of the legendary effects should be just class skills that you can put points into. The existing effects are just plain meh and have little to no impact.
I played rogue with the vulnerable, basic skill, and flurry and the healing on it was pretty crazy and I did pretty good damage as well. It seemed like it was harder for a flurry build to have the infinite energy that the flying knives build could have, which was even better, but requires legendary item(s).
I think that low level, Rob was one of the only characters that is better in melee than ranged.
It was still slower than a sorcerer but it was comparable
I didn't play sorc but I played a melee based rogue and rolled everything. Definitely three strongest class I played.
Druid is def under powered early game. I wonder when he gets to act 2 will that special tree boost him up a lot more
i had the pulverize skill with a werewolf generator skill.
i had no spirit issues. it didnt feel that way. i also used hurrican to get vulnerable for enemies.
my legendaries was 45% faster attack speed on a neck for basic skills.
on a ring for every XX amount i heal i gained 15 spirit. these 2 in combination helped a lot with the spirit generation.
i had 2 legendaries for pulverize. it was so much fun. one made it into a mix of upheavel and hammer of the ancient and the other let it stay like an earthquake from the barb.
when i had 10 stacks for overpower it did 2 hits for 1k-1,2k dmg.
but the melees felt not balanced compared to the casters. i hated this in d2
and it feels similar here. every caster is just superior and you need to have gear as melee to compete... nice... hello diablo 2.5
I think a good point you touched on is that we only played to lvl 25. In D2 it's normal that some characters are stronger for early leveling - e.g. Pala fire aura or Trapsin, and then some characters are stronger in late game - Barb, Sorc.
So I think it's ok if the lvls 1-25 do not feel the same for all characters. We need to see the rest 🙂
I feel inclined to disagree. Maybe it's tolerable, but it's only ok for players who know the franchise. It would definitely be better for new players if the starting experience for all classes was equally fun.
I only had time to play the druid to level 20. I loved the options available for builds. It definitely felt weak until I had some legendaries. One major con for me is not staying in werebear or werewolf form for longer periods. I wanna be a cool wolf or bear running around not a sumo wrestler
There has been leaks of equipment with "your true form is werebear", another with "is werewolf".
I'm starting Necro. That CE build is siiiick
I liked the barb a lot, I did a frenzy barb and just used 2 skills, never thought of liking the barb to be honest :D . Can't wait to see more of the legendary affixes, I found a cool one on my second char the druid which turned my wolves into werewolves which was pretty cool ^^
Thanks
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Regarding the comment "sorceress has no unique play style".
Perhaps many of them are similar, but I went a high crit chain lightning/crackling energy build that worked best in melee range of enemies. The build didn't feel as good as some of the hydra based builds seemed to be, but it felt unique in my opinion.
I found the necro fine VS ashava. I did die a couple of times. I think mostly because I wasn't paying enough attention. But also you did need to pay more attention due to only having the one dodge you had to anticipate attacks more
Awesome break down idk what skills u used for the barb but I felt it lacked damage
I only played Necro/Sorc but Necro just felt so much more powerful, and I wasn't even using the bloody mist legendary power. My sorc did okay, but the necro minions reeeeally carry the necro at least 1-25.
I enjoyed druid, barb and rogue, my least favorite when the necro and sorc because they are too stupidly easy, there is D3 for this. I would hope that they go the other direction and slow down these two classes as I really enjoy the slower leveling process. IMO. The other issues is that this was only to lvl 25 and there is so much more to be discovered.
once the full version comes out what drops you get and sparseness will tell the tale. i love the barb class, but felt i had to look for someone else's' builds and that didn't make him mine.
My pulverize druid didnt have problem with normal mobs but then i felt i was slow killing elites and bosses. But pulverize was very good AoE move. In my list druid still gets 3th spot for me, as interesting chars to play. And definatly wanna try build up some kind of druid build around pulverize.
i agree with u on the mage thing .what thay should do is make every element do something different like in D2 or hellgate london like slow/heal hp/stun/DvH/dot/spread/weekn/drain sp/knock bak/knock down/pull in/ & so on...... & what's up with gems not doing elements effects?
I played all 5 classes to level 25, i would agree with all of this, i did find the Barbarian a little boring until level 10, but maybe it was just the build i decided on…
Druid works so well with necro your mega tank with ton of buffs for the necro units.
Necro was the funnest to play for me. Sorc was meh, but did have the wide screen exploit
I played range rogue and dominated. Penetrate/rapid fire/dash/shadow imbue/camouflage/rain of arrows.
Hey great video! Keep up the good work on the channel. Oops, wrong window. I meant to say that to someone else, sorry.
I'll be starting Druid at launch, I found it very tanky and I KNOW their going to buff this class alot. I feel later on this build will for sure shine
Same here, I already know from listening to endgame beta testers that resource generation will not be a problem later on and you will be able to spam your main skills at will.
People really need to hold onto their panties. This was a lvl 25 beta where not every class has access to the same stuff. Barb and druid had neither of their specials. Not only that, their trees appeared to be geared towards higher levels. Their skills were ok, but there is tons of amp damage on the trees. At first, I thought cataclysm was pretty terrible. There is a whole tree on the other side that boosts lightning and that skill. There just want enough points to put into them. The other skills were strong early. Not only that cataclysm was constantly hitting ashava for damage because she was in the screen the whole time. The barb bleed build will be pretty op with the 100% bleed damage and blood explosions capstone. You just didn't get points to put into it.
Both earth druid and shapeshifting are very tanky.
Earth druid has mobility issues and lacks of EOE.
Shapeshifting seemed a little weak to me in terms of damage output, but I didn't get the chance to equip it properly.
I found the Druid the most fun to play. Loved the variety of skills and the flavor of them all. I agree with you it does feel less powerful than sorc, but so did all the other classes. I hope they nerf sorc a bit rather than buff the others -- I think the game could use a little higher difficulty in general.
100% agree. The games difficulty felt about right with Barbarian and Druid. Trash mobs were still trash, but more encounters seemed prolonged and interesting. I felt I had very little engagement playing Necro and even Sorcerer and the game was too trivial.
This is a meme right? The other classes should be brought UP to Sorcs level, nobody should be nerfed wtf the goal is to have powerful feeing characters….
@@whitepanther5657 Characters don't need to feel powerful at level 10.
Exactly, I had much more fun playing druid when the necromancer simply because he was more challanging
@@whitepanther5657 Games can be too easy. For example, Diablo 3.
I can't wait for release!
Bonemancer has massive boss dps. Just shotgun those teeth and spam bone spirit off cd which is a crazy nuke.
I Agree with you, I also think the leveling curve it's too fast, in lvl 25 you almost know all skills and probably in lvl 35 you already spend most of importants skill points of your build already, don't know what we're gonna do the rest of the 65 leves (besides paragon boards). Should be slow down make you feel some effort to get that last skill
It's fast because the legendary drop rates were increased by 3x for the beta, thus the early power creep was obviously amplified...leveling with a lot less legendaries will be much slower.
Storm/Landslide Druid is really solid for all the haters out there. Is the start a bit slower? It definitely is but lots of games start slow (D2, WoW classic). Arc lash for sorcs is an OP starter and then necros having skeletons right out of the gate was just silly
I didn't like the effectiveness of corpse explosion at all. Maybe the damage will not scale so well later in the game, but I doubt It. It just made almost completely irrelevant to test the other skills. It doesn't make any sense that the tiniest of enemies can produce a corpse that detonates with no resourse cost whatsoever. No mana or cooldown! You just procede to chain CE and that's a wrap. Meanwhile any melee is being completely miserable trying to attack and manage resources. I don't know If it need chance, but I would make so that certain enemies didn't drop corpse large enough, or even give the corpses classes like"small-medium-large" and scale the damage based on the size. I see that a lot of people loved necro, but for me it felt too "cheap".
That barbarian game play hurts me. All those" immune! " constantly popping up and the conduit shrine, I really wish the conduit shrine had died with D3. Just an utterly ridiculous thing. I'm not a fan of a bunch of cooldowns and resource generator/spender builds/mechanics. I found a lot of my skill choices when leveling were based on if it has a long cooldown choose something else. I do admit that the Necro was really fun to play though. The Reaper class of skeleton summons spawned corpses when attacking enemies, that's what I used on bosses and in general. Having no resource cost felt kind of busted for corpse explosion, but I'm not sure how I'd change it. I'm scared they'll slap another cool down into the game for "balance".
Didn't get anyone to 25 besides the necro; I was already tired of having to follow npcs around and wait to talk to them in the position I was allowed to talk to them in then hit escape to skip dialogue or cutscenes. I got the gist of the game, the break in pace and combat of how the story is implemented put me off wanting to get them all to 25.
Stupid question: when using a sorc, should I use a spell for both right and left mouse button or should I keep one for melee?
barb was fun i but i do fill like u r forced to use lung in the start & i made a buff bard so i had to room on my bar for other stuff :(
Me wanna make necro
32 k crit with druid is pretty good, most people didn't know how to play him.
Zoo druid is OP as you know what :D 3 companions 25k damage each :D
Tornado druid is also fine :D
We just need to figure out how everything works and it needs more time.
I'm sure if the full game comes out we will be okay.
Necro on Ashava is fine...just stay close to Ashava...boots with 2 evade charges work well...i think the devs purposely limit the agility of the necro, can't have everything...having tanks, massive aoe and also movement mobility?
Epic intro you got with your name 😃👌
I'd say you can't tell yet. Necro has always been strong earlygame.
So you can say yes, as a starter he's op until lvl 25. But that's it.
Wait, night shift? I have been watching Dbrunbski for a long time now. Is he a nurse?
i dont want my druid to depend on item affixes like resource cost reduction tho
What happened to mana potions?
i loved spamming blood mist ovsly that wont make into final game but i hope they keep the corpse explosion to all corpses close to you mechanic from the legendary power and just remove the immune on bloodmist. i think blood mist would still be good with out it and that's the only real way to fix it outside changing the corpse exp mechanic. if you just remove the cd reduction from the legendary power you will still be able to reduce it to zero with blood surge overpower 2 seconds plus points into blood mist 14 cd ish and cool down reduction you will still be able to reduce it to zero so yeah hope they fix this in a reasonable way that doesn't totally destroy the corpse exp mechanic it was fun just being immune while doing it haha is questionable haha
Leveled a Wizard, necro and barb, first 2 were strong and fun, barb was lacking
rogue fun to & i feel like way more servivelbal then a barb:( thow. its not good wen a rogue can face tank better then a barb
so druid will be worth? I was testing it with few builds, tornado cost a lot... wonder.. and still necro will be so OPP?
Has anyone said whether or not theres gonna be mercenaries in D4?
Poisen druid is insane 🧙♂️ and the self healing is good to
Maybe I missed this, the level 15 druid quest we couldn't reach in the beta. Would this be the power spike we're hoping to bridge the gap?
potentially we don't know
@@Dbrunski125 Yea that's why I don't want to follow into the hype of any of these click bait build vids or saying this game is going to be too easy, when they have a perfect geared out level 25 against 1:1 monsters... All i know is when i went to fight the strong hold and they had +2 or +3 levels they were significantly harder even with gear.
So going to go with the wait and see for any real critique or review of D4 after release. I enjoyed what I've played so far.
Thank you for the content and hope to see more on the druid, had to wait for an entire sequel from D2 to even play it again, lol. Crossing fingers for feral late game!
I can’t wait for this game
My problem with druid is the leveling experience. If you tell me that crappy, slow and weak leveling is intended then the game has a problem because most people won't willingly get themselves a class that give them a shit leveling experience. Not to mention, the gear addict that seems to be the druid after the devs said something along the lines of "characters won't be as gear dependant as in D3"; seems to me druid didn't get the memo.
Night shift? What does debrunski do for work?
Hot take druids going to be Op End Game
its real, Barb and Druid both scale harder with gear so while they are slow to get rolling they are going to be a freight train in endgame.
no the barb is OP. they get to carry like 4 weapons and have all the affects and stats apply to whatever weapon theyre carrying.