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For me it also looked like sorc was much easier to pull and AoE everyone fast. But single target was also significant. Hydra + chain lightning bouncing between you and boss was working like a charm even without legendary items!
Hydra & Chain lightning were awesome together. I mainly played as a Rogue and then switched to Sorcerer late in the beta and didn't get to level it very far. I couldn't believe how much more powerful it felt than the rogue mainly using these two skills.
@@gregkleinfall1901 I set up a basic skill build, focusing on topaz and other legendaries to boost basic skill damage and melted everything with it. Had nearly 800 attack power and kept up energy for other skills. It was actually super fun
I've got nothing but love for other Diablo creators on RUclips, but this tight and succinct video style is by far my favourite. I much prefer this over a 30 minute unplanned excerpt from a VOD. I always enjoy your content. My build ended up focusing on Frost Nova, Ice Shards, Frost Armor, Chain Lightning, and Ice Bolt. Chain lightning, especially with the dungeon reward - restore 25 mana when chain lightning bounces off of you, was both a massive aoe crowd clear and mana generator. Frost nova + ice bolt allowed for potent CC and a way to generate frozen/vulnerable, and Ice Shards absolutely shredded single targets. The upgrade granting vulnerability if all 5 shards hit 1 target was really reliable to pull off, and I was taking out most elites in a couple of seconds at most. IFrost armor felt okay, but its upgrades meshed rather nicely with the other frost skills. I initially played around with a high crit chance (about 20%) lightning build focused on picking up crackling energy for additional passive AOE, but I felt its damage to be really weak. It was already a significant investment of gear and skills to maximize the chances of dropping a charge, and for it to do very little was a poor return on that investment. Fire was overall disappointing. Creatures move really quickly in D4 compared to D2, and the lack of CC / burst (fire is mainly DoT oriented now) made it feel like the weakest option. Only exception was the Hydra, but the rest of the fire skills felt lackluster. Really enjoyed the Sorceress!
Thank you so much for having a great in depth guide on this class. Can’t wait to share this video to help my friends. Being able to see the ability live is a blessing.
If you like Hydra, I recommend trying out the Frost Nova enchantment. It makes your conjured spells have a 20% chance on hit to cast Frost Nova on the target. I cast Hydra and Lightning Spear, and it essentially immediately freezes all enemies on screen, and then continues to wail on them while I sit back and spam chain lightning. Felt like cheating!
It really comes down to how well can a build kill bosses. It seems clearing trash/elites is pretty easy for several builds but they aren't always that good at killing bosses. The problem with nova is it's basically useless against bosses and so there is probably a better option.
I don’t know guys… am I weird when I say I don’t like the logic of this? I mean how can a fiery hydra proc freeze on the target? Maybe I’m old fashioned but I’m not impressed. It doesn’t make sense to me.
I liked using Arc Lash as a mobility skill. That extra move speed combined with teleport really helped speed things up especially when backtracking dungeons. Perhaps it may be less useful when mounts are available.
bro! I first leveled my Sorc as Frost Nova/Blizzard/Hydra to 25. then respec and went to trial and erro Lightning sorc and OMG. I am doing the same, Arc Lash as well at the beginning. I am now building the most insane build with Arc Lash but with Glinting arc lash. Extreme Speed Run into a dungeon and killing Boss HIGH DPS/TANK within minutes. freaking OP.
With an item you can use 2 hydras. Chain lighting crits alot and let's your hydra crit. Frost nova gives you mana back and fire shield heals you. Making the sorcerer tanky and you don't have to use mana generators. Very efficient class imo.
Hydra OP!!!!! Loved the play style, I used Ice Shield rather than the Flame, but I can see both being viable. Hopeful for the game, just hope that it doesn't get too repetitive on the same dungeon layout etc.
Arc Lash is the second strongest ability sorc has (THE strongest is the lighting ultimate used with arc lash). I made melee sorc this beta after trying out all other options and my power level went through the roof. I was able to survive the world boss fight as melee wizard without retreating and being on top of the boss lashing and lashing all the time. It just needs a little imagination, but i focused on shield generation, stuns, passives and all 4 defensive spells.
@@Fastwinstondoom putting arc lash as enchantment skill stuns everything around you, all other skills we use are cooldowns, in mastery section is passive that damages by shock dmg everytime you stun, add cooldown reduction, barrier generation, basic skill buffs into the mix. Every skill you use is defensive which also nukes everything around you. When i pop all at once including the ultimate, i melted the last boss in matter of seconds.
Agreed, arc lash seems slept on. I was surprised how much it carried me when i had no mana for chain lightning. Also very surprised how tanky the sorc is. Iseriously face tanked at least 90% of the beta. Also for some reason i hardly had to deal with much cc as compared to the barb. As the barb i got feared, smoked bombed, frozen, petrified, slowed, knocked down, stunned, the whole nine yards. Maybe at higher levels sorcs will be less tanky. I did not even spec for teleport when i realized i did not need it to get out of trouble, until the world boss that is. Still early beta but looking forward to trying out the rest of the classes.
How did you edit your Sorcerer Enchantments? I don't know if it was a beta glitch but I couldn't add enchantments even thought I completed the Sorcerer's dungeon and reached level 25
4 cd's with spamming iceblade is nuts. Same is ice shards with 2 frost novas and enchantment for iceblade with piercing from items. Sorc was defintely the most powerfull of the three, but Rogue was also a lot of fun!
Frost nova x ice shards enchantment is nuts. U instantly freeze all the enemies and ice shards shoots every one of them and destroys them all. Even better if u can get the ice shard legendary aspect that makes ice shards pierce enemies. Also using frost bolt with the node that makes them explode when they die is good.
I made a sick build that used ice shards, frost nova and barriers. Thefe was alot of legendary support for this style. I could teleport into a pact of monsters, tele gave me a barrier from a passive i had, then i would cast frost nova, everything would freeze and be vulnerable. I took ice shards enchantment so whenever enemies are frozen an ice shard hits them. I was teleporting into enemies, poping frost nova, freezing them abd the generated ice shards was killing the whole pact within a few seconds. It felt like clearing trash in D3. Build got better with legendaries that gave you a second frost nova charge, frozen enemies take more damage and lots of barrier synergy legendaries. This was not as good of a boss killer but it stomped trash almost instantly
For some reason, I found Blizzard a bit underwhelming, didn't chill or damage enough imo. Also, the Ice Shards gameplay just clicked with me and I would generally prefer spending all my mana on that rather than Blizzard. I also put Shards on my Enchantment slot (makes it fly automatically towards frozen enemies), which made a pretty monstrous combo with Frost Nova and the passive that grants a chance to freeze on any hit.
Naturally, sorc is a glass cannon, but I thought the spells lacked a satisfying element to them. After leveling sorc, melee rogue felt a million times better.
Arc lash creates crackles. Picking up crackles gives you passive AOE. Can pick up or store up to 10-12 crackles. High number can kill minions and some bosses outright and gives mana on hit regen.
i like arc lash becuase it had some cool additions to make it stronger like double swipe and with crit and stuff its not bad and it ends up swiping really fast with IAS and its cool to have that one skill that kinda feels like a melee skill with the sorc...also it good when all the monsters run up on you anyway. secondly, ice armor is better than flame shield because ice armor is a **barrier** and theres a lot of affixes that give you better dmg and beneifts when barriers are active so that mulitplys your dmg by a lot and thats actually a pretty big deal with their mechanics. i used chain lightning and hydra and it was just the most OP thing for sorc. you are right about not having crap for skills to mess with any of the other random skills other than the main points...they arent the type of skills you wanna use that early on until level 30-40. For the enchantment skill i used teleport becuase it allows you to move a lot more with teleport when you can only run around, it turns your evade into teleport and you wanna find a piece of gear that gives you one or two more evade charges.
I loved playing the sorc. I went FOrb/Hydra/Frost Nova/Blizz/Inferno and it was very strong and fun to play. Freeze everyone, pop a hydra, inferno for large groups.
I feel like for every character they should add like a “Legend Masters” seperated from the skill tree and have 3-5 areas where you put a point to a certain mastery depending on your build. Like a sorc would have less mana consumption used for every skill mastery, higher damage on elemental attacks, etc etc. Barbs would have greater life or physical damage, faster movements or attack speed. I think they need to add to the skill tree, synergies or something too, seems to simplistic. I get the paragons later will help add to leveling but with each level we aren’t doing very much to the character itself.
I got mine to damage level 602 and had dual hydra's both with a 4th head. Felt super powerful. 1729 armor and 573 health. Had a stun and self healed over time. Felt like a god most of the time. Had level 5 hydras and fire ball. Glass cannon 3 points into it.
Thanks for that overview! I really liked CL, but there is a lot of potential here, and lots of different skills to use. Not like D2 where its your cookie cutter builds and roll with it. I think this will lend itself to very fun an diverse game play.
Not sure how I feel about sorceress enchantments. They're basically an autocast and turns the sorc into an uninteractive, two-bit character. Probably does wonders for people with accessibility issues tho.
Thanks for video MrDubrunski , quick fun fact if you see a state and there is yellow circle in front of it on World map you just use emote help and it will give you protection bonus :)
From the Basic Skills, I liked Spark a lot, cause it can give crit chance, but Frost Bolt is also quite universal with the Chill. From the Core Skills, I agree that Chain Lightning is probably the best, although I like Ice Shards too very much. From the Defensive ones, all seem really good, but I agree again that Flame Shield is a bit above the rest. If you put it as an Enchantment with it Healing upgrade, it is straight OP, because such an auto save from death skill in D3 has 120s cooldown, not 20. From the Conjuration node, I liked Lightning Spear, but I think Ice Blades is the best for now. With its Enchantment synergies, you can summon A LOT of swords at a time. Like, have Ice Blades with the CDR upgrade, have Frost Nova with the Vulnerable upgrade and 2 other Defensive skills on choice, and then add my personal favorite - Spark + Unstable Currents. It will summon 3 or 4 Ice Blades upon activation and it will through all the Lightning spells for free with Spark. The Mastery node seemed boring and underwhelming for me, but if I have to choose it will probably be Blizzard. Unstable Currents has got to be my favorite Ultimate, but the other's are surely more universal. And for the Passives at the end, correct me if I'm wrong, but: 1. You can't reach them on Beta? I didn't play that much and reached only lvl 24, but I'm fairly sure I needed more than 1 skill point to reach the Passives node. 2. You are unable to choose more than one passive from that node. when you hover over one, the others get crossed out. Anyway, all of them seem cool, although they all favor single element usage. Vyr's Mastery seemed interesting as it might enable some Melee Mage archetype with Arc Lash :)
Sorc was the only one in the first beta with an AOE right out of the gate making it a very fast starter. Arc lash remained effective even at 25. Chain Lightning was available too early. It was so good and then using it with hydra and having the frozen orb enchantment was just OP at Veteran Difficulty
Among many many other things, its important to note you can swap out your enchantment for free and during combat. Good players will swap out their enchantment during a boss fight
Ice blades was op because of its passives that reduced the cooldown of all your skills when you use a cooldown, which basically allowed people to have perma uptime on flame shield and ice shiled.
Hmm... the skill tree is a pseudo skill tree actually. The system is actually the D3 type. But with more layers of options. I think the real tree is what you'll create on the paragon boards and this being very uniform should be them making sure they have a controllable way of balancing all the combinations in the end game. And adding new systems in later expansions.
Could be that I'm just not used to looking at D4's gameplay, but my initial feel is that the viewpoint seems a little too close to the character, seems like it should be just a little further back to see more of what's around you.
I enjoyed it, but after my 4th character the static campaign really was getting rough to go through. I wish they would have added RNG to the locations where you need to walk. They also have to somehow cut down with all the clicking and dialog imo.
naaa its fine, you won't do that 4 times every two days, it's because it is the beta and you fast level and repeat on purpose also you don't need to do the main quest to level, i got to 25 on two chars without even touching the main quest, and you have the whole world when it releases
I played a chain lightening Sorc on my first run, god it was dull. Switched to a bow rogue on the second which was much more fun to play. Will try the nec on Friday and hoping for something a bit more interesting as a caster. Jury is still out as far as I’m concerned but will see on the actual launch of the game.
Great video! Would love to see that for every class. D4 is amazing and I’m really looking forward for end game builds, I’m really glad that they make that all of your skills on the bar to be used in one full rotation , It has been really boring to spam nova or blizzard over and over again like the current builds in D2
I'll prob have time to make 1 for the druid and necro next week I didnt get enough play time on rogue and didn't even touch the barb to really cover them properly
Damn i forgot my grain of salt at home :< So far i loved the rogue gameplay over sorceress, and barb seems weeker than the ranged classess, sort of a thing they took from d2 eh? :D Then again it's still beta, lvl 25. Thanks for the overiew.
He says “I didn’t really like Arc Lash” but check his clips. He’s using it in all of the gameplay footage. It’s unreal. Looks like necro and Druid also get AOE to start but imo sorc will be the best starter character
that was once I hat good gear and was max beta level. plus it was just some b roll footage I quickly recorded. when I was starting out point and shoot felt stronger but again that was just my personal experience.
@@Dbrunski125 not hating on the preference, just calling it like I see it :) I thought melee sorc was good especially in comparison to barb/rogue who’s AOE is much weaker and is just so gear dependent
OMG, thank you for illustrating what the spells look like. Lots of people just talking and describing the skills, like wtf is wrong with these people?!
I never realized this but with having your ultimate ability on your ui ability bar that you essentially have 5 skills to work with instead of our usual 6. This is actually a bigger deal than it seems on paper.
Sorc is absolutely OP. It's actually kinda imbalanced. She does great in both AoE and single target damage, has high survivability (which should be her weakness!) and has the best escape with teleport, which is on a 8 second cooldown, but you can put teleport in the enchantment slot and your evade gets replaced by teleport. 2 charges, each on 14 sec cooldown, so you can technically use teleport every 5 seconds or so, which is INCREDIBLY powerful in my opinion. Rogue was what I wanted to play on live, but after trying the sorc, i'm not so sure anymore. Absolutely love the Rogue looks and playstyle, but it's underwhelming, at least early on. I loved the dagger rogue, with the flurry + shadow imbue, clears waves amazingly well. It struggles with bosses, however. Oppositely, bow rogue struggles with AoE a bit, but does relatively okay with bosses, ofc, not as good as a sorc. And Barb is just a distant 3rd I got barb to level 20 only, because I just couldn't suffer any longer. Definitely not my class, nor my play style, will not play barb again anytime soon. Looking forward to Necro and how broken that will be. So in the end, on line, the choice for me will come down to Necro or Sorc as a first character and maybe Rogue second, once I figure out the game some more and get some better gear. Overall my impression is mostly positive from the beta!
I played sorc first and looooved it. I ultimately went a crit build with hydra,CL, spark, flame shield and tele. Absolutely decimated. Then i tried out rogue and I didnt like it at first UNTIL I came up with a super mobile impale build with twisting blades, dash, shadowstep, shadow imbuement and concealment for the energy regen. That literally obliterated everything because Impale has a ton of CDR on it. Whenever you get low just sit in stealth for for seconds and you open strong adding vulnerability (Found out you can use imbuements while stealthed which was super cool too)
OP at levels 1-25... maybe sure. Barb is by far and away the best at level 50-100, with 30+ million Upheaval crits, one-shotting world bosses and pvp. I would say #2 behind barb is Bone Spirit Necro. Basically any skill that utilized max resource / damage per resource spent gear will dominate in content.
@@RafaelW8 Let just say I know a guy who's brother's, nephew's, cousin's, former roommate had a few level 100's in other betas. Zero copium and nothing is going to get fixed in 2.5 months, they'll probably do a balance before the first season. There are so many variables to this game that any balance would be a nightmare to do.
Imo rogue with impale and the right legendary was definitely the meta on the beta, can't say that will play out in the end but barbarian felt incredibly weak and sorc just couldn't keep up with the rogue dps solo especially and with the right gear rogue also beat out sorc in aoe.
Surprised you didn't talk about staking Inferno(w/ center pull and no mana cost on meteor). That combo made anything other than ashiva a cake walk 🤣. Inferno +8 rapid fire meteors is just about any dungeon boss could take. Ooh add "26% movement speed for 1 second on crit hit" as broken for flame sorc since the Hydra counts each head as its own crit chance entity. Each encounter was basically inferno>meteor>Hydra>run around +26 move speed until regain 🤷
I don't think you need a build to play this game at all. Anything would work, the only time when I feel like using a different skill is that I just get tired using the same skill because it doesn't look visually appealing anymore. All in all there is no need to spend time to show a good build, at the end of the day all of them will work lol. You just use the skill that looks cool. This game is very causal play, nothing is intricate.
I was surprised how much I liked the sorc, the class was always a bit effeminate for me but the sound and animations are nice and I was able to make mine look like a witch doctor so that was cool.
Reports from the closed beta indicate that the barb indeed does catch up whereas the Sorc is much better earlier. How true that is on release remains to be seen.
Charged bolts felt like crap, chain lightning pretty good, frozen orb and blizzard meh, didn't try fireball or hydra but heard hydra was very good and fireball with enchantment as well.
This is the problem i have with Blizzard, they keep adding cool looking skills but nobody is really gonna use them 'coz it doesn't make sense to use it on a caster; so we all are basically forced to keep using the same stoopid skills from 20 years algo...
They really need to work on balance. I love d2r but if you make anything but a sorc on ladder start you are just doing it in the name of extra challenge
The game gives me this strange feeling that it's be relesed years to late. The quality now is what lost arc Trailers years ago were used to be. Hopefully they add runes and runewords. Otherwise it's just the generic lootrun. Runewords gave d2 so mich opportunites besides of mfing. I guess the game will be just an annoying lootbox killing with limited possibilities. Just my 2 Cents...
runewords were added with expansion, and synergies much later with patch 1.10. Original D2 had only normal quality legendaries like Goldskin, The Patriarch etc. Endgame in original D2 was looking for god roll rares.
Ya i was really disappointed with incinerate too. The damage was $hit and your out of mana and then running around waiting for mana to regen.. I realize I'm not game designer and unless there is some gear modifiers in late game this skill is going to end up a wasted skill slot for a brand new game... And that's pathetic!!!! And WOW why the f$+k are we dealing with cooldowns again. Ultimate skills ya i get that, but resource and cooldown management is not playing a game..
Wow, a blizzard title and sorc is the strongest class in the game? Now thats a new one *cough*. That being said, a lot of sorc feeling strong in D4 is because most of the boss mechanics we've seen really favor ranged classes.
Sorceress is the strongest character in Diablo IV so far imo. Do you agree?
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What about the thorn barb, he does around 4k crit against single enemies
The old saying is : It's a Blizzard game Sorc must be op.
HAHAHAHAHA
For me it also looked like sorc was much easier to pull and AoE everyone fast. But single target was also significant. Hydra + chain lightning bouncing between you and boss was working like a charm even without legendary items!
Hydra & Chain lightning were awesome together. I mainly played as a Rogue and then switched to Sorcerer late in the beta and didn't get to level it very far. I couldn't believe how much more powerful it felt than the rogue mainly using these two skills.
@@gregkleinfall1901 I set up a basic skill build, focusing on topaz and other legendaries to boost basic skill damage and melted everything with it. Had nearly 800 attack power and kept up energy for other skills. It was actually super fun
I've got nothing but love for other Diablo creators on RUclips, but this tight and succinct video style is by far my favourite. I much prefer this over a 30 minute unplanned excerpt from a VOD. I always enjoy your content.
My build ended up focusing on Frost Nova, Ice Shards, Frost Armor, Chain Lightning, and Ice Bolt. Chain lightning, especially with the dungeon reward - restore 25 mana when chain lightning bounces off of you, was both a massive aoe crowd clear and mana generator. Frost nova + ice bolt allowed for potent CC and a way to generate frozen/vulnerable, and Ice Shards absolutely shredded single targets. The upgrade granting vulnerability if all 5 shards hit 1 target was really reliable to pull off, and I was taking out most elites in a couple of seconds at most. IFrost armor felt okay, but its upgrades meshed rather nicely with the other frost skills.
I initially played around with a high crit chance (about 20%) lightning build focused on picking up crackling energy for additional passive AOE, but I felt its damage to be really weak. It was already a significant investment of gear and skills to maximize the chances of dropping a charge, and for it to do very little was a poor return on that investment.
Fire was overall disappointing. Creatures move really quickly in D4 compared to D2, and the lack of CC / burst (fire is mainly DoT oriented now) made it feel like the weakest option. Only exception was the Hydra, but the rest of the fire skills felt lackluster.
Really enjoyed the Sorceress!
Thank you so much for having a great in depth guide on this class. Can’t wait to share this video to help my friends. Being able to see the ability live is a blessing.
If you like Hydra, I recommend trying out the Frost Nova enchantment. It makes your conjured spells have a 20% chance on hit to cast Frost Nova on the target. I cast Hydra and Lightning Spear, and it essentially immediately freezes all enemies on screen, and then continues to wail on them while I sit back and spam chain lightning. Felt like cheating!
this is the exact build i was using too, it was insane
It really comes down to how well can a build kill bosses. It seems clearing trash/elites is pretty easy for several builds but they aren't always that good at killing bosses. The problem with nova is it's basically useless against bosses and so there is probably a better option.
I don’t know guys… am I weird when I say I don’t like the logic of this? I mean how can a fiery hydra proc freeze on the target? Maybe I’m old fashioned but I’m not impressed. It doesn’t make sense to me.
I liked using Arc Lash as a mobility skill. That extra move speed combined with teleport really helped speed things up especially when backtracking dungeons. Perhaps it may be less useful when mounts are available.
bro! I first leveled my Sorc as Frost Nova/Blizzard/Hydra to 25. then respec and went to trial and erro Lightning sorc and OMG. I am doing the same, Arc Lash as well at the beginning. I am now building the most insane build with Arc Lash but with Glinting arc lash. Extreme Speed Run into a dungeon and killing Boss HIGH DPS/TANK within minutes. freaking OP.
With an item you can use 2 hydras. Chain lighting crits alot and let's your hydra crit. Frost nova gives you mana back and fire shield heals you. Making the sorcerer tanky and you don't have to use mana generators. Very efficient class imo.
There's also a gear trait that adds 26% move speed for 1 sec(6stack) for each crit hit. With 2 four head hydras you're never losing that 26%bonus 🤣.
Hydra is def getting nerfed. Most likely they will limit the distance you can summon it and how far away you can get from it.
@@XxIcedecknightxX bite your tongue. Blizzard lives the finger wigglers.
I don't think there was even 1 thing here I disagreed with. Nailed it.👍
Great video I can't wait to play blizz sorc! Dbrunski's favorite build!
Hydra OP!!!!! Loved the play style, I used Ice Shield rather than the Flame, but I can see both being viable. Hopeful for the game, just hope that it doesn't get too repetitive on the same dungeon layout etc.
Great video big D! Loving the new outro graphics too.
so do the skills synergize like in D2? or can i have some skills lightning and some fire? Or if you start picking fire you need to stay with it?
Arc Lash is the second strongest ability sorc has (THE strongest is the lighting ultimate used with arc lash). I made melee sorc this beta after trying out all other options and my power level went through the roof. I was able to survive the world boss fight as melee wizard without retreating and being on top of the boss lashing and lashing all the time. It just needs a little imagination, but i focused on shield generation, stuns, passives and all 4 defensive spells.
That sounds like an awesomely fun build, gonna give it a go when I can play again :D
@@Fastwinstondoom putting arc lash as enchantment skill stuns everything around you, all other skills we use are cooldowns, in mastery section is passive that damages by shock dmg everytime you stun, add cooldown reduction, barrier generation, basic skill buffs into the mix. Every skill you use is defensive which also nukes everything around you. When i pop all at once including the ultimate, i melted the last boss in matter of seconds.
Agreed, arc lash seems slept on. I was surprised how much it carried me when i had no mana for chain lightning. Also very surprised how tanky the sorc is. Iseriously face tanked at least 90% of the beta. Also for some reason i hardly had to deal with much cc as compared to the barb. As the barb i got feared, smoked bombed, frozen, petrified, slowed, knocked down, stunned, the whole nine yards. Maybe at higher levels sorcs will be less tanky. I did not even spec for teleport when i realized i did not need it to get out of trouble, until the world boss that is. Still early beta but looking forward to trying out the rest of the classes.
I'll revisit arc lash in the future thanks for the suggestions
Great video. I hope you will do similar videos for the other classes and show the skills as you did here.
Thanks for the detailed break down on the skills. Sorc lookin really good.
How did you edit your Sorcerer Enchantments? I don't know if it was a beta glitch but I couldn't add enchantments even thought I completed the Sorcerer's dungeon and reached level 25
4 cd's with spamming iceblade is nuts. Same is ice shards with 2 frost novas and enchantment for iceblade with piercing from items. Sorc was defintely the most powerfull of the three, but Rogue was also a lot of fun!
Frost nova x ice shards enchantment is nuts. U instantly freeze all the enemies and ice shards shoots every one of them and destroys them all. Even better if u can get the ice shard legendary aspect that makes ice shards pierce enemies. Also using frost bolt with the node that makes them explode when they die is good.
Loving the D4 content! refreshing to see a positive take on the game. A lot of D2 content creators are painting this game in a bad light.
I made a sick build that used ice shards, frost nova and barriers. Thefe was alot of legendary support for this style. I could teleport into a pact of monsters, tele gave me a barrier from a passive i had, then i would cast frost nova, everything would freeze and be vulnerable. I took ice shards enchantment so whenever enemies are frozen an ice shard hits them. I was teleporting into enemies, poping frost nova, freezing them abd the generated ice shards was killing the whole pact within a few seconds. It felt like clearing trash in D3. Build got better with legendaries that gave you a second frost nova charge, frozen enemies take more damage and lots of barrier synergy legendaries. This was not as good of a boss killer but it stomped trash almost instantly
For some reason, I found Blizzard a bit underwhelming, didn't chill or damage enough imo. Also, the Ice Shards gameplay just clicked with me and I would generally prefer spending all my mana on that rather than Blizzard. I also put Shards on my Enchantment slot (makes it fly automatically towards frozen enemies), which made a pretty monstrous combo with Frost Nova and the passive that grants a chance to freeze on any hit.
Naturally, sorc is a glass cannon, but I thought the spells lacked a satisfying element to them. After leveling sorc, melee rogue felt a million times better.
It's not a glass canon... its a fkn tank.
@Tom Bateman It won't be as you go up higher, everyone's a tank on normal early levels, lol.
@@VileVamp There's a difference when the sorc is literally unkillable.. by spamming shield cooldowns. Nothin glass about it
Side note: you can precharge Arc Lash to 9 so when you get in melee range and have to use it then you get an instant stun
Arc lash creates crackles. Picking up crackles gives you passive AOE. Can pick up or store up to 10-12 crackles. High number can kill minions and some bosses outright and gives mana on hit regen.
i like arc lash becuase it had some cool additions to make it stronger like double swipe and with crit and stuff its not bad and it ends up swiping really fast with IAS and its cool to have that one skill that kinda feels like a melee skill with the sorc...also it good when all the monsters run up on you anyway. secondly, ice armor is better than flame shield because ice armor is a **barrier** and theres a lot of affixes that give you better dmg and beneifts when barriers are active so that mulitplys your dmg by a lot and thats actually a pretty big deal with their mechanics. i used chain lightning and hydra and it was just the most OP thing for sorc. you are right about not having crap for skills to mess with any of the other random skills other than the main points...they arent the type of skills you wanna use that early on until level 30-40. For the enchantment skill i used teleport becuase it allows you to move a lot more with teleport when you can only run around, it turns your evade into teleport and you wanna find a piece of gear that gives you one or two more evade charges.
I loved playing the sorc. I went FOrb/Hydra/Frost Nova/Blizz/Inferno and it was very strong and fun to play. Freeze everyone, pop a hydra, inferno for large groups.
I feel like for every character they should add like a “Legend Masters” seperated from the skill tree and have 3-5 areas where you put a point to a certain mastery depending on your build. Like a sorc would have less mana consumption used for every skill mastery, higher damage on elemental attacks, etc etc. Barbs would have greater life or physical damage, faster movements or attack speed. I think they need to add to the skill tree, synergies or something too, seems to simplistic. I get the paragons later will help add to leveling but with each level we aren’t doing very much to the character itself.
Frost shield is strong af in the right build leading to perma uptime of the shield. (ie. the ice blades build).
I got mine to damage level 602 and had dual hydra's both with a 4th head. Felt super powerful. 1729 armor and 573 health. Had a stun and self healed over time. Felt like a god most of the time. Had level 5 hydras and fire ball. Glass cannon 3 points into it.
Thanks for that overview! I really liked CL, but there is a lot of potential here, and lots of different skills to use. Not like D2 where its your cookie cutter builds and roll with it. I think this will lend itself to very fun an diverse game play.
Not sure how I feel about sorceress enchantments. They're basically an autocast and turns the sorc into an uninteractive, two-bit character. Probably does wonders for people with accessibility issues tho.
Thanks for video MrDubrunski , quick fun fact if you see a state and there is yellow circle in front of it on World map you just use emote help and it will give you protection bonus :)
From the Basic Skills, I liked Spark a lot, cause it can give crit chance, but Frost Bolt is also quite universal with the Chill.
From the Core Skills, I agree that Chain Lightning is probably the best, although I like Ice Shards too very much.
From the Defensive ones, all seem really good, but I agree again that Flame Shield is a bit above the rest. If you put it as an Enchantment with it Healing upgrade, it is straight OP, because such an auto save from death skill in D3 has 120s cooldown, not 20.
From the Conjuration node, I liked Lightning Spear, but I think Ice Blades is the best for now. With its Enchantment synergies, you can summon A LOT of swords at a time. Like, have Ice Blades with the CDR upgrade, have Frost Nova with the Vulnerable upgrade and 2 other Defensive skills on choice, and then add my personal favorite - Spark + Unstable Currents. It will summon 3 or 4 Ice Blades upon activation and it will through all the Lightning spells for free with Spark.
The Mastery node seemed boring and underwhelming for me, but if I have to choose it will probably be Blizzard.
Unstable Currents has got to be my favorite Ultimate, but the other's are surely more universal.
And for the Passives at the end, correct me if I'm wrong, but:
1. You can't reach them on Beta? I didn't play that much and reached only lvl 24, but I'm fairly sure I needed more than 1 skill point to reach the Passives node.
2. You are unable to choose more than one passive from that node. when you hover over one, the others get crossed out.
Anyway, all of them seem cool, although they all favor single element usage. Vyr's Mastery seemed interesting as it might enable some Melee Mage archetype with Arc Lash :)
Sorc was the only one in the first beta with an AOE right out of the gate making it a very fast starter. Arc lash remained effective even at 25. Chain Lightning was available too early. It was so good and then using it with hydra and having the frozen orb enchantment was just OP at Veteran Difficulty
To be honest , Rogue is also very close on the dagger build. But I keep thinking we only see act 1
Among many many other things, its important to note you can swap out your enchantment for free and during combat. Good players will swap out their enchantment during a boss fight
Ice blades was op because of its passives that reduced the cooldown of all your skills when you use a cooldown, which basically allowed people to have perma uptime on flame shield and ice shiled.
Hmm... the skill tree is a pseudo skill tree actually. The system is actually the D3 type. But with more layers of options. I think the real tree is what you'll create on the paragon boards and this being very uniform should be them making sure they have a controllable way of balancing all the combinations in the end game. And adding new systems in later expansions.
Could be that I'm just not used to looking at D4's gameplay, but my initial feel is that the viewpoint seems a little too close to the character, seems like it should be just a little further back to see more of what's around you.
I enjoyed it, but after my 4th character the static campaign really was getting rough to go through. I wish they would have added RNG to the locations where you need to walk. They also have to somehow cut down with all the clicking and dialog imo.
After exploring Kyovashad you can roam freely basically instead of just following the story ;)
naaa its fine, you won't do that 4 times every two days, it's because it is the beta and you fast level and repeat on purpose
also you don't need to do the main quest to level, i got to 25 on two chars without even touching the main quest, and you have the whole world when it releases
I could not be less excited for a game. damn.
Should all classes be this powerful? Or should sorceress be reigned down?
Hydra with Fire Ball enchantment would blow screens up: OP early game farming.
Glad to see the animation of the sorceress looks badass with a staff, because, I saw another video wielding a wand and that looked comically stupid
Is nice to have some options and try it. Im rly waiting for druid now.
I played a chain lightening Sorc on my first run, god it was dull. Switched to a bow rogue on the second which was much more fun to play. Will try the nec on Friday and hoping for something a bit more interesting as a caster. Jury is still out as far as I’m concerned but will see on the actual launch of the game.
Waiting 3months, it’s going to be a complete surprise to me even the start of the game
i actually went with arc lash, because im used to confrontational combat. and it isnt too bad i guess granted after using my ult
Holy shit I played like 12 hours and had no idea about enchanting skills
I started w arc lash and it’s dope
Watupp homie
Great video! Would love to see that for every class. D4 is amazing and I’m really looking forward for end game builds, I’m really glad that they make that all of your skills on the bar to be used in one full rotation , It has been really boring to spam nova or blizzard over and over again like the current builds in D2
I'll prob have time to make 1 for the druid and necro next week I didnt get enough play time on rogue and didn't even touch the barb to really cover them properly
Damn i forgot my grain of salt at home :<
So far i loved the rogue gameplay over sorceress, and barb seems weeker than the ranged classess, sort of a thing they took from d2 eh? :D
Then again it's still beta, lvl 25. Thanks for the overiew.
He says “I didn’t really like Arc Lash” but check his clips. He’s using it in all of the gameplay footage. It’s unreal. Looks like necro and Druid also get AOE to start but imo sorc will be the best starter character
that was once I hat good gear and was max beta level. plus it was just some b roll footage I quickly recorded. when I was starting out point and shoot felt stronger but again that was just my personal experience.
@@Dbrunski125 not hating on the preference, just calling it like I see it :) I thought melee sorc was good especially in comparison to barb/rogue who’s AOE is much weaker and is just so gear dependent
I don't care if it's super strong or not, I'm going Fire everything. Looks like so much fun
3 months from now?
OMG, thank you for illustrating what the spells look like. Lots of people just talking and describing the skills, like wtf is wrong with these people?!
Ice blades prob getting a nerf. The skill itself isn’t broken but the cdr abuse you can do with it is. Can be unkillable and spam frost novas.
Gonna be my main for sure unless the necro turns out great. Hydra sorc OP
Iceblade spam build felt ridiculously powerful and tanky.
Apocalypse sorc in d1. Blizzard sorc in d2. Firebird wizard in d3. Hydra sorc in d4. Let's go
Nova+Enchant+Fireball/Meteor >>>>>>>> Blizzard in D2 Endgame.
I never realized this but with having your ultimate ability on your ui ability bar that you essentially have 5 skills to work with instead of our usual 6. This is actually a bigger deal than it seems on paper.
Did you also never realize that having a defensive skill on there too only leaves you with 4 skills to work with?
@@zea1023 thats literally a basic ability to work with so nice try
Sorc is absolutely OP. It's actually kinda imbalanced. She does great in both AoE and single target damage, has high survivability (which should be her weakness!) and has the best escape with teleport, which is on a 8 second cooldown, but you can put teleport in the enchantment slot and your evade gets replaced by teleport. 2 charges, each on 14 sec cooldown, so you can technically use teleport every 5 seconds or so, which is INCREDIBLY powerful in my opinion.
Rogue was what I wanted to play on live, but after trying the sorc, i'm not so sure anymore. Absolutely love the Rogue looks and playstyle, but it's underwhelming, at least early on. I loved the dagger rogue, with the flurry + shadow imbue, clears waves amazingly well. It struggles with bosses, however. Oppositely, bow rogue struggles with AoE a bit, but does relatively okay with bosses, ofc, not as good as a sorc.
And Barb is just a distant 3rd I got barb to level 20 only, because I just couldn't suffer any longer. Definitely not my class, nor my play style, will not play barb again anytime soon.
Looking forward to Necro and how broken that will be. So in the end, on line, the choice for me will come down to Necro or Sorc as a first character and maybe Rogue second, once I figure out the game some more and get some better gear.
Overall my impression is mostly positive from the beta!
I played sorc first and looooved it. I ultimately went a crit build with hydra,CL, spark, flame shield and tele. Absolutely decimated. Then i tried out rogue and I didnt like it at first UNTIL I came up with a super mobile impale build with twisting blades, dash, shadowstep, shadow imbuement and concealment for the energy regen. That literally obliterated everything because Impale has a ton of CDR on it. Whenever you get low just sit in stealth for for seconds and you open strong adding vulnerability
(Found out you can use imbuements while stealthed which was super cool too)
OP at levels 1-25... maybe sure. Barb is by far and away the best at level 50-100, with 30+ million Upheaval crits, one-shotting world bosses and pvp. I would say #2 behind barb is Bone Spirit Necro. Basically any skill that utilized max resource / damage per resource spent gear will dominate in content.
@@SyndicateGT1 "barb is by far the best levels 50-100" how do you know that? No offense, but sounds like pure copium to me.
@@RafaelW8 Let just say I know a guy who's brother's, nephew's, cousin's, former roommate had a few level 100's in other betas. Zero copium and nothing is going to get fixed in 2.5 months, they'll probably do a balance before the first season. There are so many variables to this game that any balance would be a nightmare to do.
Excited for your D4 content, DB!
Imo rogue with impale and the right legendary was definitely the meta on the beta, can't say that will play out in the end but barbarian felt incredibly weak and sorc just couldn't keep up with the rogue dps solo especially and with the right gear rogue also beat out sorc in aoe.
Surprised you didn't talk about staking Inferno(w/ center pull and no mana cost on meteor). That combo made anything other than ashiva a cake walk 🤣. Inferno +8 rapid fire meteors is just about any dungeon boss could take. Ooh add "26% movement speed for 1 second on crit hit" as broken for flame sorc since the Hydra counts each head as its own crit chance entity. Each encounter was basically inferno>meteor>Hydra>run around +26 move speed until regain 🤷
Never been a fan of the cooldown system. If I have the mana let me spam it. Yes I want it to be D2 sorry not sorry
For the first weeks of the game, there will be a plague of sorcerers 😂😂😂
In a game made by Blizzard, the class that casts Blizzard must be the OP one of course!
I don't think you need a build to play this game at all. Anything would work, the only time when I feel like using a different skill is that I just get tired using the same skill because it doesn't look visually appealing anymore. All in all there is no need to spend time to show a good build, at the end of the day all of them will work lol. You just use the skill that looks cool. This game is very causal play, nothing is intricate.
Brief overview!?! The video is titled complete d4 sorc skills. Which is it db?
Just yanking your chain. Love your content.
I was surprised how much I liked the sorc, the class was always a bit effeminate for me but the sound and animations are nice and I was able to make mine look like a witch doctor so that was cool.
I really hope barbarian will be much stronger in later lvls
Reports from the closed beta indicate that the barb indeed does catch up whereas the Sorc is much better earlier. How true that is on release remains to be seen.
Charged bolts felt like crap, chain lightning pretty good, frozen orb and blizzard meh, didn't try fireball or hydra but heard hydra was very good and fireball with enchantment as well.
For me it was Frozen Orb for aoe and Hydra
For some reason i feel like all characters have to few spells... for some reaso i expected a bit more
This is the problem i have with Blizzard, they keep adding cool looking skills but nobody is really gonna use them 'coz it doesn't make sense to use it on a caster; so we all are basically forced to keep using the same stoopid skills from 20 years algo...
People forget how weak sorc was for a very long period of seasons in D3.
The Rogue is better than the Sorcerer😛
But on a more serious note, good preso on the sorc skills :)
Yeah,.. in special by Lightning path,.. very powerful,..
Sad that fire effects look not as good as those of D2R
Why can't they figure out how to make melee as powerful as casters.
I guess you didn't play dual dagger DH then? Better starting build
Inferno is very Voldemort in style imo lol
My first class was barb. I will say the sorc is stronger, but I did enjoy playing the barb class more almost for the challenge
They really need to work on balance. I love d2r but if you make anything but a sorc on ladder start you are just doing it in the name of extra challenge
@@RumblesBettrBS you are just too lazy to use other things like teleport 😂
Not a single spell that looks exciting to use, charged bolt and frozen orb was the biggest disappointments tbh
I love sorc classs
Fireball in enchantment is really strong. Like AoE strong.
They will nerf her damage it’s completely op in comparison to other classes
Sorceress is the strongest class (after Paladin) in Diablo 2, why not in Diablo 4? By my math, she should be twice as strong =)
how can you call this garbage a tree? what tree? its a straight line with some nodes on it
The game gives me this strange feeling that it's be relesed years to late. The quality now is what lost arc Trailers years ago were used to be. Hopefully they add runes and runewords. Otherwise it's just the generic lootrun. Runewords gave d2 so mich opportunites besides of mfing. I guess the game will be just an annoying lootbox killing with limited possibilities. Just my 2 Cents...
runewords were added with expansion, and synergies much later with patch 1.10. Original D2 had only normal quality legendaries like Goldskin, The Patriarch etc. Endgame in original D2 was looking for god roll rares.
My og character!
They will nerf her for good.
I personally didn’t like the game to be too easy with the sorceress.Barbarian gameplay was the best for me.
Frost Bolt, Fireball, Hydra, Inferno, Ice Armor and Teleport
Fireball Enchanted.
Boom boom lulz.
Ya i was really disappointed with incinerate too. The damage was $hit and your out of mana and then running around waiting for mana to regen.. I realize I'm not game designer and unless there is some gear modifiers in late game this skill is going to end up a wasted skill slot for a brand new game... And that's pathetic!!!! And WOW why the f$+k are we dealing with cooldowns again. Ultimate skills ya i get that, but resource and cooldown management is not playing a game..
Kind of a wasted opportunity to use 90% of the d2r skills in d4
Wow, a blizzard title and sorc is the strongest class in the game? Now thats a new one *cough*.
That being said, a lot of sorc feeling strong in D4 is because most of the boss mechanics we've seen really favor ranged classes.
It's Sorcerer. The word sorcerer is used for both genders. Sorceress isn't.