All Blacks Coach Scott Robertson Makes MASS Changes for Second Argentina Rugby Test
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has rung the changes for the second rugby test against Argentina in the Rugby Championship, being played at Auckland's Eden Park on Saturday evening. Four changes have been made to the starting side XV [15], and one notable alteration to the bench with former captain Sam Cane being included.
It's Only Sport host Martin Devlin runs through audio cuts of Robertson at the team naming press conference, before discussing a variety of selection-based topics with producer Lachlan Waugh, such as whether Will Jordan should be picked at fullback or on the wing and if Cane deserves a start.
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Get rid of TJ . He's far too slow in his pass delivery.
Razor out of his depth. He is not the man for the job. Bring us Jamie Joseph Vern cotter
he's leaving at the end of the year as well
TJ also helping the opposition up off the ground at the end of plays also destroys the killer instinct of the team imo. Why are you wasting your energy helping them up
@@reppingeason yeh he is a nice guy and thats the problem. We need serious players not social workers.
Had one loss and y’all lose your minds lol… Give this group a whole season see where we are.
You listen too much to Razor. He doesn't care how often we lose, just that we don't worry about it. "Don't expect too much from the team this year" he said. Sorry, but if that's his attitude then he shouldn't have got the position.
@@markreilly105you guys were baying for Foster's blood and couldn't wait for Robinson. You get what you ask for.
@wot4922 Not me wot. I didn't want Robertson this time either. Foster made some mistakes but learnt from them. Here's hoping Razor does too
Ratima starting. Beauden 10. Jordan 15. ALB 13. Sevu and Clarke wings. Dmac utility bench.
Brilliant! Amen
Dont know how they cant see this line up....😢😢
Yehaa, I'm not alone!! The definition of stupidity is doing the same experiment over and over again and expecting a different result each time!
As a Bok supporter we need a strong AB side to make us stronger. You always had the best win record against all other nations. Hope Scott can get them back to the All Blacks of old!!
I am a crusaders fan born and raised. I love Razor, but I never thought he would do what so many failed All Blacks coaches have done before, which play players out of position. It never ever works in the long term
Me too. Why isn't he playing Will at fullback. They even said that was what he was picked as.
It's crazy to judge the allblacks on last weeks loss. This team just lost a world cup by one point. A few lapses in judgement in one game doesnt sum up a season.
Not so long ago when the previous coaching crew lost a game...
Yeah bruv that's a good attitude 👍but if u dont win nz will be ruthless to vent anger we're a stroppy bunch 😠
How else you suppose to judge them bruh?
they lost a team who lost the france b team
Huh, so you guys just lost hy one point... In what dimension are you jumping in and out from
Bok-Fan : love listening 2u'r analysis,, Much respect 2 A.B hweva credit ms b gvn 2 Arg performance,, Saturday is sumwt 2a final,, Scott MUST deliver 2his supporters
Once Scott Barrett is fit. I don't see Tupou Vai in the 23. Im not a fan of TJ, but can I see why the coaches picked him. The argies are making the breakdown messy, and the younger halfbacks don’t have enough experience to deal with that. However, once Cam roigard is fit. He's straight to number 1 halfback as far as I'm concerned. By then the other 2 halfbacks should've had enough time in the system to back him up. TJ wouldn't be in the picture by then as far as I'm concerned. I still believe it to be early days. Crusaders under Robertson were often slow starters. You can't throw a coach in and try to implement a change of styles, and have it all clicking. I like the outside changes for this week. One thing we haven't had is straight out gas in our wingers. With rieko, jordan and Caleb who can bend the line with his size. I think things should be better
You're right but there's 'not clicking' then there's 'losing to arg at home'. It's not panic stations yet cos the AB's really had that game won but failed to close out. If they lose this weekend tho or even just scrape past then...
100% agreed
@@HighBoss Yep, some nice balanced stuff here lads. It gets tiring reading some of the extreme angles, from one end to the other 😅
@HighBoss I wasn't expecting Argies to cause us problems. I thought the ref was letting the argies have two fellas going for the steel even when one arrived after a ruck had already formed, which is illegal. However, we let Argentina off the hook twice after scoring with loose passing, and just dumb clearing of the ball in our half. This was caused by Argentina pressure as well, and we weren't aggressive enough in the clean out. There shouldn't be any complacency this week. I would like to see a bit more mongrel at the right time. Argentina are emotional people, and getting them angry would probably be not a bad thing.
@@justinwillson3424 Throughout the whole game I thought it was a mistake not going to the corner enough. With all due respect, with an emotionally led team like Argentina, I believe it would have been much easier to snuff out their belief and confidence had we of just stuck to our guns and pushed all in for tries from the start. In saying that I'd much rather lose knowing we had a good crack and were repelled as opposed to losing because we weren't daring enough.
Why is there no scrutiny on Jordie??
Cos whenever the ball goes wide and it feels like somethings on, people see it die with Rieko, not Jordie. Honestly 13 is so hard to play under rush defence pressure I dont think its all his fault. At the same time weve seen enough of Rieko by now to know what he offers so I wouldnt mind seeing some others in the role like Proctor. Need to see them face down a rush defence tho. The easy hit outs against fiji and the like dont tell us anything.
Because just like damien and Sam cane he's a protected species!!! They only ever have criticism for player like Reiko and caleb
Because they are obsessed with Rieko......
@@HighBoss I wouldn't even mind putting Reiko at 14 if Jordan goes 15. But he's just no center is he.
Need bodie 10 alb 2nd five Proctor 13 will jordon 15 try Reiko at 14 ratima 9
south africa said their standards had gone up after joining the URC and playing regular matches against Leinster munster edinburgh glasgow, and playing in the old heinekin european cup. Sounds reasonable. NZ has to have a longer term viewpoint to build a bigger base of players and push up game standards. Super rugby just doent look like it right now unless its revamped again. Need thinking caps on. The visit of SA will be a good indicator.
World Club Rugby, 10 from southern hemisphere, 10 from northern hemisphere. More rugby for us all. I agree man, our standards right now in superrugby are the aussies and well, we see how they are going internationally.
Quite right. Razor has the look of a man under severe pressure and not many answers to tough questions. NZ players are just not getting the prep they need to be number 1 again soon.
The issue is super is only a couple months long. European rugby is starting again soon.
@@mindingyourownbe Why would the north do that? super viewing figures are awful. its wont make money for the north
The SA thing is overstated. Their teams were frequently a joke and hadn´t seriously challenged the top rankings for years, and many of their bast players played in Europe anyway. The move up north has brought them more money, and as result they´re able to retain more of their better playing talent. Additionally they enjoy massive depth as a result of their player base, the largest of any rugby nation, and the ability to pick from every corner of the Globe for their national team. Their absence from Super Rugby hasn´t made the competition any stronger, but it´s not like they were a serious force for most of the time they were involved. Outside of a few good years in the late 00´s early 10´s, it´s been quite the opposite in fact.
TJ is slow and inaccurate and D-Mac is erratic and inaccurate with his kicking and defence. Eden Park aura to be broken.
Only one that's gonna be broken on Saturday is you buddy 🫵I'll have a beer 🍺 for you tho.
Slackbladder to the list of not up to its
@@itistrue101 Can't understand why you pick 1 6 in your squad and give up on him after 2 games. Razor thinks playing a 7 there will make up for it. When Blackadder gets injured we have to start again. Why didn't he try someone like the Maori All Black 6. Suafoa. He is big and might make a big impact. Couldn't be worse than who we are using.
You're clueless if you think dmac is inaccurate with kicking
@@markreilly105slackbladder reminds Razor of himself when he was a player (lots of heart and tries hard) and both undersized and dominated by stronger, faster more athletic players.
I think Razor is a good coach and will find his feet at Test level. It's just that he just isn't clear when communicating with the media, that's not his thing but unfortunately the gig demands it. I just hope a win and statement performance happens this weekend and everyone can settle down so we can to South Africa with some sort of optimism.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I agree he is a good coach but unfortunately selection and media are not his thing.
@@markreilly105 Yeah, the whole selection thing has become a complete mystery. I'm surprised at what is happening.
Razor is a successful club coach with no experience at international level and it shows. All the Razor fan boys will no doubt spring to his defence though.
@@bokudesu3280 Have to start somewhere and yeah, he has his supporters which is fair enough, you can't do more than win with what is front of you. There's something not right for sure but we have to be honest and realize we just don't always have the best players in the world anymore. How many of this current AB setup would make a world team? It was interesting that before the Test season started Mils Muliaina thought winning 9 games would be ok and that's what we would do. I thought that was too low at the time, now I'm not so sure.
Razor's fall back position is coach of the Aussie breakdance team
Tj is a trap to our side...
Raygun!
very good
That’s too harsh.
Art of War says, where ever you go, you'll always be there.
It’s Rieko defense, ALB was caught out of position multiple times in the first game, yet all media punters praise him. 🤦♂️. Jordy should be the one being questioned. Rieko consistently doing his core jobs well
I agree. The only thing Jordie does is give it to a player who is in a position worse than he's in.
True. Razor might be regretting picking alb over rieko
Bring in DuPlessis Karifi..Dalton is a good super rugby player that fails to replicate on international level.
Kirifi doesn’t even get picked for the Canes. The Kirifi and Plumber fan boys are laughable.
Kirifi could be selected but only as a forward/back option so that we may match the South African Bomb squad
@@Kiwi_Haydn Du Plesis is way better than Casper the Ghost Papali'i!
Hard for a seven who keeps going backwards as our forwards can't dominate. Rather have Lakai than Kirifi, Get rid of Blackadder, Dalton can play 6 or 7. Sotutu for Jacobsen, He plays 6 or 8 and gives another option other than Finau. Maybe even Cameron Suafoa from the Māori All Blacks. He can play 6, lock, or 8
@@markreilly105 I quite like your selection of Suafoa - lineout option, aggressive ball carrier and physically a big tall player!
I would stay with Finau because in his test debut against the Wallabies he showed what he can do!
Jacobsen and Blackadder should be removed because they are lightweight power loosies and as for Papali'i another ghost in the field - you can't see him!
All Blacks were destroyed in boardrooms. Super Rugby without SA is not super rugby
Exactly!
You wish. You're too dumb to know real reason
Yeah, we're loving it in Europe
Foster will be loving all this negativity. I'm guilty of dissing him for all the crap records he put on the team, but what I saw last weekend was weak as phuk man. The coach can't kick the ball between the posts, win line outs and hold on to the damn ball. Play the right players coach.
We let the best coach go to Australia, which is probably good for Southern Hemisphere rugby in the longer run.
Foster will hate the fact we are losing. He is loyal to NZ Rugby. Razor is a great coach but great coaches aren't always good selectors.. Hope he gets better.
@@markreilly105 Yeah he has to get better. Just saying the whole of NZ has been hating on Foster and hyped up for Razor, at least this shows the World and for Foster that maybe he wasn't the root cause.
Beauden played great and he was the only glimmer of hope in that backline over the weekend.
scott robinson's body language is showing extreme signs of distress
Razor looks shocked. 😂 He thought Test Rugby is Super Rugby.
Bullshit, he's just fine - 3 from 4, I'm picking his lesson is learnt. One disallowed try cost us the game (fair call on the forward pass), and two stupid passes,
Hell of an assumption that Razor can't tell the difference between Test and club rugby. Sounds more like you're projecting a bit of your bias.
Argentina will come out Saturday onto Eden Park & play 80mins of Rugby, for the All Blacks its not all about what is infront of them. Its being aware of whats around you. Dont be ridged flat or too open, be loose, ready & Unpredictable.
@@dbellnzbell6 Sorry but your dreaming if you think it was the passes and the missed try that cost us that game. Razor is a Good coach. Unfortunately he isn't a good selector. Sorry 3 from 4? Lets get real. England Test one - should have lost but didn't. That's ok it happens sometimes. We will get better. England 2 still pretty lucky. What did we learn, plenty, what did they change, nothing. Can't count Fiji, They forgot they were playing that day and didn't turn up. We weren't that flash. Last week we collapsed. Started ok, got to 20 - 8 then we went home. You learn from your wins and your losses but nothing has changed. Argentina by 5 unless the coaches and players are finally on the same page then All Blacks by 15.
i am starting to see that we have a very good Super Rugby All Blacks but not a very good All Black Test team.
Maybe ppl should let him to find his best team
Total AB run metres last week was 286, if we exclude Ardie's numbers all the other forwards managed 68 metres in total and broke 1 tackle - our forwards are underperforming.
I swear it feels as though our pack are constantly sitting ducks for opposition defences.
Yup. Id have to agree. It wasn't Foster fault. We just don't have the players of the quality of past players like Retallick, whitelock, Read, Kino, Maccaw, DC, A Smith, C Smith, B Smith, Nonu, We have a decent front row and our outside backs would preform better because the talent inside is giving them the platform to work their magic. Ardie Savea is the only NZ player that would make a world 15. In the past we would have 6or7 players in that team.
Sorry to burst your bubble but Ardie wouldn't make a world 15 currently. He's not the player he was last year.
@@markreilly105 you know what. Id actually have to agree. Because as amazing as he is. I don't think he's the best number 8 in the world. He could be the best number 7. But because he never actually plays in the position he really should be. I think there are better 7s then him. So yeah at the moment id say no ABs would make it into a world 15. Maybe will Jordan, but that's only going on his past form.
After that pass he wouldn't make it
Whoever the main host is (old man) needs to give respect to the other junior host. Continually talking over him as he's actually making decent points rather than just senselessly rambling
Razor is out of his depth and doesn't instill confidence
Early in the first Argentina game. You see an Argentinian player attack TJs leg. And TJ almost walked completely away from game play. You saw him walk off the camera span im sure. Probably threw him off a bit given his injury history. The issue wasn't just TJs box kicks. The structure of our forwards at the breakdown were too average against the Argentinians. They were ripping through to charge down TJ like it's ski season. So it's up to this week to make it work.
TJ never been AB 1st choice, not sure why he now is in the twilight of his career
TJs in becoz he had an awsum super rugby comp until he came up against my chiefs in the semi
@@ManaBlack208 He has been a finisher for the All Blacks all his international career so he should do that job. He was very good in Super Rugby but as we are finding out, this is test match rugby.
@markreilly105 Oh yeah but he's in his twilight years now not a spring chicken anymore he's leaving too next year 👋
What a strange question. Because there's no one else rn.
Building for the future and for WCs.. Just like SA. Makes sense, but there will be loses along the way, just like SA had in the past.
Cantabs promised us that he was the next big thing-a messiah. But so far, it feels like he’s been more cautious in taking bold actions than Fozzie ever was.
Your a hard man it's only 4 games in impatient prick
The South africans are waiting at ellis park and Capetown to absolutely give us a record thumping
Oh, we are waiting. But I'm not seeing any record thumpings.
The only thing more dangerous than facing an All Black side, is facing an All Black side who are wounded.
I think you will find they are in Perth at the moment
true .... "54 - 0"
We might be waiting for the AB’s but will never underestimate them ! Too much respect 🫡
In one month , other beast if no .. bye bye razor
I remember how AB fans were saying how invincible the ABs will be once Razor is coach, well...he has his work cut out.
He surely has. I was one of those people saying once razor comes in we will be unbeatable. Well I was wrong!
The fact that Scott Robertson had "Not" come thru the ranks to Intern with the All Blacks Coaching staff under the tutorship or mentoring of a Past coach to begin with. Puts him at a disadvantage, Rugby NZ took the gamble & this is what they have.
That's right. Promised him the job back when Fozzie took over and now look. Super Rugby Coach rather than proven International coaches. Now one of them will help beat us in Sth Africa. Wonderful.
The issue the AB's will have is trying to keep composed and not get frantic and force plays. I heard an interview years ago with Petter Solberg about driving and he said typically the harder you push the slower you go, the key is to try and be as smooth as possible.
The All Blacks depth in Play Making is unfortunately not as deep as their depth in Players.
The tight five is where it's at, ABs are lacking a bit of depth in the engine room with injuries to key personnel, notably Scott Barrett and Patrick Tuipulotu so Tupou Vaea is next in line with an opportunity to gain more development in that area most certain, Tamaiti is a great addition and the forwards and their coaching staff would've done the reviews , what, where, and why things went pear shaped in that first, noted everything accordingly and ready to deliver redemption....
Jordan at fullback, Caleb and Reiko on the wings, Proctor and Jordie in midfield, Beauden first five, Cortez starting 9, D.Mac bench utility....
and none of that will fix the forwards.
Yep. Trouble brewing. We hear about the exodus of greats last year, but I think the reality is that it actually happened after 2015. We’re still assuming and hoping good at Super means good at Test level. That’s coming under a lot of scrutiny. The group speak coming out of the ABs coaching group is not vaguely reflected in the performances after four games. What ABs team in 1996, 2003, 2010, 2015 looked as bad as this after four games in a season?
They also seem to believe that players who didn't perform when they were first in the All Blacks haven't changed.
TJ was never a starting 9, he is slow, inaccurate, indecisive and is leaving NZ why would you start him when you have superior players in the wings and they need to gain experience, if we can't start them against Argentina we certainly can't start them against the Springboxs, Ireland or anybody else. If they want to persevere with McKenzie the partnership from the Chiefs at 9 and 10 against Argentina would have been the time. Personally if they want to continue with Beauden start him at 10, Jordie at second who hasn't had a decent game since the new team was named, perhaps as a result of the slow, indecisive and inaccuracy at half back, which is affecting McKenzie and on it goes down the line. Keeping Barret at 12, I would have ALB at 13, Reiko at 14, WJ and 15 and Clarke at 11. In the forwards we have no go forward, pun intended. We need another bigger lock to partner Darry, a big 8 as in Sotutu, keep Papali'i at 7 although Sam Cane is awesome but is leaving, and Ardie at 6. Blackadder tries hard but is too small to carry the ball effectively and gives away to many penalties.
Sounds good but I would keep Reiko at 13 and put ALB at 12. 9, 10, 12, chiefs players and ALB is a distributer so he will put Reiko in space to use his pace and power. Telea at 14. I'd put Ardie on the bench for his impact and experience. Maybe Finau or Suafoa from the Māori All Blacks at 6, Walker-Leawere at 4 until Tuipoloto or Barrett get back
Razor looks like me when the boss asks how we are going to improve performance.
When did you ever defend Foster?!
He mentioned maybe it wasn’t Fozzies fault yet he was bashing him constantly. This guy is so disingenuous
RIGHT ON the money, RIEKO is scamming the all blacks, he hasn't delivered shit. Coaster AB
Razor is clearly out of his depth ! He has not international experience and we see it in his choices.
He is not prepared for the job . He has not good assistant ( holland McDonald).
If he loses the fortress , he will feel the bashing very hard on him.
Jamie Joseph vern cotter have the international experience for the job ‘
So it wasn´t all just Fozzie´s fault huh? Who´d have thunk it...
TJ please no
I can't agree with any of the nonsense about Beauden not being a fullback. Will Jordan doesn’t have the kicking game to be an international 15, and we won't win a lot of games without a tactical kicking game from that position. Leave Will on the wing to chase kicks and score tries-he’s our best winger! I agree with Rieko, though ALB didn’t exactly make a strong case last week-his performance was worse than any of Rieko’s so far. Cane should definitely start; his leadership is crucial, especially with these young forwards starting. And let’s not forget, we’re playing with our 3rd, 4th, and 5th choice locks at the moment.
Ardie should be 7, Samipeni Finau to provide the whack that was so missing last week and give a shot to another young up and coming No 8, Sotutu would have first dibs, Brayden Iose, Wallace Sititi have also been impressive lately, Sam Cane remains a bench impact option....
Win Pumas 🇦🇷 were celebrating the entire week.🥳 If the All Blacks don't win on Saturday, the NZRU needs to rope in Wayne Smith to assist Razor.
I reckon Caleb should wear the 12 Jersey like his Dad. Ma'a played wing then mid field so did Tana.
Razor looks very uncomfortable
So True, Mr Devlin!
I agree with every word
Are these the actual questions that were asked at the press conference ?
TJ and Ricko in ??? Players out of position again ??? ALB played great why not pair him with Proctor and put Jordan at full back, Rikco back to the wing with Clarke, drop all the assistants
ALB didn’t play well sorry..too many mistakes..forward pass and out of position, he missed tackles also.
@@rosswilliams2303 I don't know why everyone says he played well. If he is in I think ALB should be 12 with Reiko 13 and put Procter on the bench. (They have to get him some experience while they can). Telea at wing, Jordan 15 and Beauden on the bench with TJ.
@@markreilly105 hey i do like ALB he’s a solid player no doubt. But that game wasn’t one of his best.
Marty put Caleb Clark as a centre! A bit like Nonu. He will be fantastic there!
All Blacks will lose this match game 2 against the Pumas if TJP starts.. he has done his time, nevermind jumping on the emotional comeback wagon.. plus his ball distribution is just way too slow and shouldn't be in the team full stop! Cortez Ratima should be the starter with D'Mac_ Hello? If not then where the bloody hell is Christie.. he'd be the safer bet than TJP?
Yep and if he starts against SA we are really gonna get a hiding
Dance now, Dance now!! Baila ahora, baila ahora!!
Scot Robertson needs to be brave. Preeure on all black coaches is immense. Razor is already in survival mode and that isnt great. Watching rugby for over 20 years gives you a feel for coaching ability. Its an unpleasant feeling to realise that after seven titles that razor is not a Rassie like visionary coach. Even Jason Ryan hasnt had an impact on the forwards that we thought he would. That tells you that the change last year was all due to Joe Schmidt
Im shocked NZ have picked this Razor guy. He acts like a mumbling homeless man. Weird guy
I don't watch Super Rugby, so when people talked up how great a coach Razor was I just had to take their word. But based on his tenure so far, I think he's terrible
Remember that last game at twickers when we drew with England, we could of won but tj box kicked the ball away 😡
You guys down under... don't have any common sense, your selections and coaches is just not good enough , your rugby has gone backwards since the world cup!!!
where is Shannon Frizzell?
Yeah i say all the time. Hes gone overseas😞
croc rolling someone
Seriously where is he?
@@Zion-Bear bro he’s playing overseas contract. I think its Japan from my bad memory.🤣
Martin, you are absolutely correct, our forwards are very weak, Cody Taylor and Scott Barrett are just average.
Because International sides are placing a huge emphasis on Power Up Front, an area the AB's dominated, we now see the AB"s being matched, when you lose dominance in one area of the game there can be a breakdown in others. Its not weakness you see, its the perception of thinking your eyes are deceiving you. The AB's are good, but we are now witnessing a vast improvement from international sides.
ab supporter from here in western australia this team will win on saturday remember the engine room of the allblacks is in rebuild. moúnga, barrett along d mac did function well against the rush d and not when the forwards were not winning good go forward ball. this coaching group has very little test match experience. this not super rugby,.joe schmidt, tony brown stu cron all over seas. from 2004 till 2023 we have had coaches and assistants with overseas experience. very much looking forward to saturday..
Savage! 😂
Is it fair to say our backline defensively is average which is why they interchange players constantly and causes chaos, because no one really knows where they should be after an opposition line break.
What really gets me is they change the same players. Could it be the problem is with the ones they don't change?
You play Martin 😂
This analysis is BANG ON!!!!
Imagine having nz supporters and media 😢
Bugger that
Yep we are a sad bunch😅
@elhefe808 I'm a kiwi and I feel embarrassed at how the country treats our players
@@shizzerla me too
Why wasn’t the AB’s doing any pick and drive tactics? The forwards done nothing and looked soft out there. This is the least Intimidating forward pack I’ve ever seen NZ have
The flat line defense in rugby is hurting the abs...tmo is taken out the fine lines ...the centre's role to set up wingers has changed...D Mac is a concern
lol we gotta support Razor and his coaching staff now, can't do him like they did Fozzie. Players are World class though. I'd pick more or less the same team, just add in Samipeni and Perofeta at 6 and 10 respectively.
Hold on guys is Razor not the magic thing if not who else.
Change All Black's mindset first and remove complacency or will again suffer humiliation..
Jordie isnt up to scratch as a 12. He needs to go back to fullback. Hes completely hampering our team at 12.
Ioane as a 13 is defensively quite brilliant. Put ALB inside Ioane at 12 and Ioane will look a whole lot better. Thats my 2 cence.
Totally agree. ALB has the footwork and the pass to put Ioane in gaps to use his pace and power. Best defensive center we have. Please put Procter on the bench and give him experience against tier 1 teams. He will get eaten up by the boks if they play him against them. We still haven't seen him and the bench is the best place for him.
Will Jordan at Fullback...reality check on this one. The guy has scored 30 plus tries for the All Blacks in 30 test matches playing on the wing. One try per game (roughly) what other player in world rugby gives you that return on the wing....No one.
TJ is now in the Finlay Christie Locker Of Slow Halfbacks. Should never be starting, and Ratima and Roigard are the future. Rueben Love at 10, bring him in there now with RWC 2027 as the motivation and see how he goes. If that doesnt work, Harry Plummer slots in, he is the Kiwi version of Handre Pollard. Send Jordie Barrett to Leinster now, and lets see Caleb Clarke and Billy Proctor in the centers. If you want to match the Aki´s and De Allende´s of this world we need pace, and size in at No 12. Beaudy, DMAC and Hotham on the bench and there you have it.
Argentina to win DM having another shocker
Any half back would look slow going backwards.
ABs going backwards with ball in hand is not good enough. Play wingers at wing, fullbacks at fullback and fly halves at fly half. Specialists playing in their Specialist positions
Aaron Smith was never slow. Cam Roigard is needed. But Ratima might do the job for now with Finlay off the bench. Or vice versa. Best we have atm.
When then backline stops to wait for the halfback you know he's slow. Are you from Wellington or did you watch a different game to the rest of us.
But the boy can dance.. 😂😂😂😂😂🎉
Well we did make the final of the World Cup last year and the truth is the rest of the world has caught up
Bring back the tri nations or SA in super rugby. You only become the best by playing the best.
Super rugby and allblack tactics are to blame not the players
Start selecting overseas based players
Ruben Love is a key missing piece for me. Razor has wasted a huge opportunity to blood him by putting Tele'a on the bench. In a bounce-back game where we'll likely trounce the Argies, this would have been a massive chance to inject some fresh talent into the backline. Proctor albeit against Fiji really spiced things up for change before Jordie - in typical fashion - came on and killed the backline flow. I don't care how well the Jordie and Rieko experiment ran before this year. The fact of the matter is, at least optically, that pairing doesn't appear to be conducive to the type of rugby ABs fans love and expect.
No, it needs ALB at 12 with Reiko 13.
@@markreilly105 i would like to see that pairing however Jordie is undeservingly untouchable at 12. I don't think ALB gets enough credit at 12 albeit spending most of his time at 13.
Argentina forwards are going to run Tamaiti Williams into the ground with sheer power, strength and game fitness. The weakness that is D-Mac and Jordie Barrett will be exposed. Super Rugby without the Springbok is a corroding schooling platform for the development of our international players. A possible answer is to take our skills, explosive power, speed of thought and execution and engineer a style that beats power players from the North and the Bokke. Oh wait, we already did that during the reign of McCaw.
2-0 Argentina 😂
And bye bye razor
is it me or does Scott robertson seem at a loss when responding to questions? like I would like to see more confidence out of what he says rather than watered down explanations. it's not to say that the boys are bad or this or that but yeah he seems to fumble n explanations. You would think a guy with such pedigree would stand more firm, like Steve Hansen would do.
Winning twice in NZ is difficult. Only Ireland has done it this century.
I was going to say that the Boks did it back in 2009, when we did a rare whitewash. But I quickly did a Google and saw that was one win in Waikato and two in South Africa.
BUT before the Waikato game in 2009, our last game in New Zealand was the infamous Dunedin game where we won 30-28, one that I rate as highly as any world cup.
So I guess that kind of counts? Maybe?
And you say all players should be in NZ playing Sjoer Rugby. What's your answer then if no offshore players? What's your solution?
Maybe Razor doesnt have free reign to explore his options as we all think he does.....maybe there is interference from the powers above....who knows....this team selection is worrying as hell...😮
Need to lose Tj at 9 and tell ANY replacement to STOP KICKING THE BALL AWAY!!!!
If you have the ball,you control the game.
What is the point of winning hard earned ball,,for someone at the first opportunity to kick it away????
AB has to play as a team I mean team work play smart not hard good luck ab
whoever puts jordan on th wing is a numskulll. which sounds like justin marshall. so ok u want rece whos a snail compared to our fastest back in jordan /. if Jordan was on th right wing last week he would have scored that try where rece was too slow.
Yeah they look overcoached to me...great point...let them play..
30 yrs Eden Park All Black stronghold is about to be taken away by the Pumas this weekend.. super rugby coaching staff will realise international rugby is way beyond them, if so I wonder if heads will fall? NZRU Mark Robinson's got too much 'Chick Ching' on his mind.
Except he didn't hire Razor, the Board did and he's not on it.
Should be Bye bye to any players going end of year now , focus on the future & growing the team through to the next World Cup. Huge question marks on Damien Mackenzie…..hope he surprises us but to date has never stepped up to test level starter quality, great sub with 20 to go with opposition defence tiring.
If this team doesn’t show signs of consistent improvement on the field then just maybe the coaching staff under Robertson need reviewing?……other than Jason Ryan I have concerns with the balance of coaching staffs ability at this level.
Not one team in the top 5 is unbeaten in this years window. Even the boks have dropped one at home. Stop panicking. Its embarrassing. 3 wins 1 loss. Its better than most.
I get it .
For the hype that was created by NZ Rugby . The 4 games that they played were pretty meh
Even in technical play isn’t great . So questions need to be asked
That’s not the issue - the issue, we can’t select a team of great players in their specialist positions….. Ireland, Wales and others make better use of the ABs cast-offs in their specialist positions than we do with the base talent FFS
@@tims5129 last time we played ireland we won. Enough said. They won one series once by one game lol
@@reabetswekhiba7551 back to bush with you little man. Abs to win rugby championship again
@@Edgycoo you really could . But it’s looking shaky for your guys
hard times dont last.. only tough people laugh.. the meme lol
Razor has shown nothing so far. This team is Ian Fosters team which he inherited. You have the world's fastest winger as a centre. A world class fullback and a try scoring machine at that as a winger. A lethal full back in broken play as a first five. A openside flanker who with enough mongrel to attack each and every breakdown thus becoming a true jakal playing at 8. This is beyond absurd.
Not really, this is life under "The Messiah". Don't blame Foster. It's not his team and he didn't have McKenzie as a 10 long term, just the odd game. Best 10 we have currently is Plummer or Miller. Maybe Perofetta.
No clear selection policy or combination development, too reliant on players whom aren't going to make the next cup.
Razor cant talk boys.. Realy listen to him...
Blackadder would not make any top 6 side. Our backrow is unbalanced, Ardie should be 7. Bring on big guys at 6 & 8 or guys that can bust that advantage line. We leaked 38 points, whats this both sides of the ball, when we leak 38 points. We want to play like Auckland bust up the middle then this minimises what we need for the 2nd side of the ball.
8 Sotutu 6 Finau or the Māori All Black Suafoa.
How the hell is perenara still in there????
These coaches don't know wat they want wat the fuk they're doing TJ was a snail last week ratima needed to come in but no he's not wtf?,razors scared to make too many changes,if they play shit they're out simple
@@ManaBlack208i would have Cortez starting over TJ any game from now on. To many errors. Timings out. Kicks predictable.
@rosswilliams2303 Yeah bro don't know wat their problem is if they're playing shit replace them they may need a break fuk sake