What are the BEST Electronics Side Cutters?
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- What are the best and best value electronics side cutters?
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Hakko are the best value: amzn.to/3bOMRID
Lindstrom 8140 amzn.to/3nR53nI
Lindstrom 3 set: amzn.to/3NYpZ6W
Knipex flush cutters: amzn.to/3nR53nI
Larger Knipex 70 20 125 amzn.to/3uC4i5L
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Piergiacomi is the OEM for Hakko. I buy them directly instead of buying rebranded Hakko and paying the premium. They are made in Italy
Yup, was already wondering as my Piergiacomi TRE-03-NB looked exactly like it but just in yellow/black color scheme. Which are currently on sale at my local electronics shop for 7,50 euro.
I can vouch for all of the Knipex tools. For some of the side / flush cutters you can get hardened blades.
They also have those special cutters for THT stuff, those that leave a small nib and bend it.
Interestingly, a lot of the Knipex precision pliers and cutters are actually made by Schmitz.
i was issued Lindstrom cutters when I started in Olivetti in 1986 - still got them.
I have the same Lindstrom cutters - amazing. Still working great since 1989!
One of the classics missing from your collection is Erem, Swiss made, now owned by Weller. Prices are new are eye-watering, I just found one online that is $303 USD. I have a few, they are built very nicely.
his "no-name" blue pair looks a lot like an erem and is probably one ;)
@@hal__9000__ Yes. I died a little inside when he called them that. They're my "good" cutters.
Yeah he pulled Erems out and called them no namers LOL I died laughing. Million times better than the Lindstroms… 0:56
@PrimeHiFi much better and it's obvious just holding them in your hand. Also Lindstrom doesn't even make anything in Sweden.
Hakko is just rebranded Piergiacomi, which may be cheaper or easier to find locally, they also make different sizes and ESD versions.
And they look exactly like the ones from Wiha, same colour as well.
Do they pass the toe nail clipping test?
Don't know, I know use my Victorinox MiniChamp
I routinely use Knipex 78 61 125 (similar to those shown, but 64HRC tool steel). That's what I clip my nails with lol. And my 3yo's as well for that matter.
Got 2 pairs of Lindstrom 3601's and a pair of 3511's since the mid 80's. Still going strong. Still my #1 cutters for PCB and small cable work.
Yes. The yellow Lindstrom are on he best. They do work great for finger and toenails too.
The best tweezers are the Swiss 00.
Xcelite 170M with the blue handles are good if you luck out and get one that has been machined properly. Buy a few, use the best ones for fine work and the worst for abusive cutting
If you want durability, look for tungsten blade cutters, like Aven -- they're intended for medical/dental cutting of stainless and titanium wire and small pins
Yep! Got 2 pairs of Lindstroms, about 25 years old and they are the best! I have a variety of dikes - Diamalloy (and knockoff), Klein (which I've) used since 1966. and some heavy duty ones for cutting steel
mine must be 25 years too... has out lasted all the other ones.
Knipex is the GoTo Brand for all kind of Pliers IMHO. But they seem to be insanly expensive outside Germany, 2-3 times more than here.
I really like my Xuron cutters and pliers, specifically the LX and the 9100, but I also don't know if I could vigorously defend why you should get those over a different brand so... take that resounding endorsement as you will.
I stand by my Wiha cutters. Rock solid. Those Lindstrom ones look great though.
I use Knipex as shown here, but 64HRC type father than INOX. Last about a year or two, but that's probably because i often can't be bothered yo reach for crappy cutters to cut heavier stuff.
I am using a "Belzer" Side Cutter since 30 Years, precise and always sharp as in old days
I have had a pair of Lindstron 8160 side cutters for over 35 years. Quite simply there is nothing better than Lindstrom.
Yep, Lindstrom! I got my first pair working at GTV, lasted about 15 years without any wear to be seen until they were stolen. Bought another pair and they are just the same. They are actually really cheap when you look at how long they last, and yeah, pretty sure I have cut some bad shit with those. Good for nails as well.
You know your real recommendation for the new player was kinda buried in there - whatever decent cutters you get, make sure you have a bunch of the $1 cheapies for cutting 'sh!t'
I have some Lindstrom cutters that are about 40 years old - I use them regularly and they are still perfect
Using Weller Erem TX series with carbide cutting surfaces. They are super-sharp and great for fine electronics work and never going to dull cutting copper and components pins. Don't try cutting steel stuff with them, carbide is brittle ;-). Beware the price, $200+ USD.
The original Swiss ones are ridiculously hard.
I will second Lindstrom, I wait for offers on ebay, surplus stock, sell offs etc, can be half price or less. Also Knipex, excellent. I like their cut off capture type. It holds the snipped off lead, so if working inside equipment it dosn't fly off to never to be found land, waiting to short something out! Also, Engineer tools of Japan, excellent and very good price.
I've been using the same Lindstrom since 2001
I got those Lindstrom sidecutters from my work practice program at an elektronic manufacturing company. Best ive ever had.
This is my favorite eevblog video to date simply cuz I relate too much to this video and a video i been waiting for. Dave, please do a shoot out
funny as soon as you showed those lindstrom cutters i had to go look at the ones that i found in a car park many years ago as they looked very much the same and guess what they are lindstrom, never realised they were that expensive.
If you're looking for the top of the grade in American-made ones there is Excelta.
My 170M Xcelite cutters, have been good for a long time.
I've had my Crescents for 45+ years! Tens of thousands of cuts. Still hunky dory.
Lindstrom FTW. I prefer the Lindstrom Rx 8150 - more space age looking and have adjustable "bio-spring". Made like a bandit 10 years ago and scored them for $13USD each and all were great condition (because they are Lindstrom)! Wiha all the way for electrical work.
First thing tended to do with lindstroms was remove the springs. I found it easier and got better control by learning to hook my fingers and thumb around the handles.
We have Bacho as well, but we use them to cut of bolts.
Very timely video. Wife recently damaged my 40 year old 'Dick Smith' purchased cutters when cutting some stalks off a set of earrings. No idea what brand they were as the printing has long worn off the handles.
i've broken 2 pairs of lindstroms - one was 35 years old, well used, and the other about 10 years, NOS. So yeah they're not as tough as you''d hope, but I still love using them
Looks like B+D Enterprises sells the Hakko CHP-170 ones on eBay for a similar ~$8 price. Going to order a pair as this seems a legit dealer for Hakko.
"I've cut some serious shit with these" Epic! Paused the video and hit the Subscribe button 😆👍
Fujiya? I have been a fan of these for ages.
I have about 10 pairs of Linstrom around in the shop. Love them; you can break them easily if you use them for a job they are not intended for.
Back in the 1980s lindstrom did flush cutters, not seen them recently. I’m now on my third pair of lindstroms in around 40 years, lost one jaw entirely on the first pair mid 90s, and the very end of the second pair (still used on my desk) maybe a decade ago, the third pair I lost for a few days recently and was about to buy a new pair and they turned up down the side of the sofa. Their long nose pliers are nice too.
Piergiacomi PG-TRE03NB Flush Cut Side Cutter 138mm
£6.49
Next from @Project Farm: Side Cutter shootout!
Seems like something the Project Farm channel should find out.
ENGINEER NS04 Japan made. Really strong steel! Around 20€ on Amazon
Erem tools are best IMO. And Knipex for bigger cutters. Tried almost everything including Tronex, Lindstrom, Hakko and some cheaper nonames
The blue ‘no name’ looks like a Erem the name are around the screw.
I have two pairs of those Knipex Super Knips. Have lasted me a few years ago far, but I'm not cutting every single day.
Can recommend though. There's a model (if not all of them) that comes with a lead catcher that prevents THT leads from flying off across the room/into your eyes.
I have a set of Hakko nippy cutters. Like any tool, if you use it for its intended purpose, they will serve you well..
I have probably 8 or 9 Lindstrom side cutters. They have really good jaws but the end of the rubber handle breaks off. I some Hakko aswel. They good but the spring jams up. But I just clean them and a bit silicone spray and they mint again.
I have a pair of Lindstroms. Got a funny Txxxxxa branding on them though!
Have the Knipex one. Ordered the Piergiacomi as a cheaper alternative.
Xuron cutters deserve a mention I think. Very reasonably priced, Made in the USA, and they have served me very well.
I have several lindstrom cutter probably 10 years old all blunt now. Personal I just buy cheap cutters and replace them every few months. I agree rather have 5 hakko cutters.
Love my Swanstroms. I buy used flush cutters a lot from eBay. $150+ carbide for $30 if ypu watch.
My wiring guys swear by Lindstroms.
FYI not all Lindstrom cutters are top quality now. Many many years ago all cutters Lindstrom made were amazing. But at some point they decided to make excessive money off their brandname and opened some cheaper factories to make cutters. You can still get the good quality Lindstroms you just have to be careful what type you get and where they were made. Definitely avoid the blue ones at all costs. Usually the price will tell you which type it is, but not always.
I have two pairs of yellow Lindstrom that are 15+ years old and still going great, but the blue set we got at work were shit.
Yep, the yellow ones are great, got 3 of those that are years old. Got a set of the white handled ones from donkeys years back somewhere still. They still work pretty well but the handle plastic rotted somehow.
I am now off the expensive flush cutters train.
There's a pack of 5 of the Hakko jobbies for 35 bucks and like... I'm just gonna lose them or be dead before they all fail.
I buy the Hakko from Amazon in bulk and just sprinkle them around home and the lab at work.
My Lindstroms are 50 years old!
I've got a nice pair of CK flush cutters which have lasted me years so far. Knipex is my go to for the larger stuff too.
I still have a set of CK that have hardly seen any use in many years since I discovered lindstrom
Great video, I have never heard of the Lindstrom cutters but that one lasting 20 years is amazing, also seems like still a great deal if you calculate it over that whole time. Well maybe they don't make them like they used to as you said, since mikeseletricstuff wasn't too fond of them. I have the regular Knipex ones, well-made tool of course but the blades don't seem to be amazingly durable, still good. Comment by "ToshMatik" mentions they are also available with hardened blades
Lindstrom are a firm favorite of mine. I have 4 pairs for different gauge electronics stuff the oldest pair being 40 years old. The trick to making them last that long is not to abuse them, and don't leave them out on the bench for some "engineer" to use to undo a nut or screw😊. I have a set of specialist cable cutters for mains and video cable initial cut to length... Cannot remember the make offhand but they do a good job also if you don't abuse them or leave them lying around for "engineers" to use as bolt cutters.
Pity Fiskars do not make side cutters, I have some scissors type things for cutting that plastic Chinese puzzle type of stuff, and also some gardening stuff with blades. You often get what you pay for or as my old workmate used to say "buy cheap buy twice".
@@gerrylast Oh wow, I had completely forgotten about this video and these Lindstrom cutters again. So they really must be that good!
I agree, the main thing to keep any of them in good shape is to not get impatient, and not go over their cutting capacity. I think I can learn that! I'm just a hobbyist, so haven't had issues with people stealing them away :)
Have a nice pair of big side cutters too that I like, as you said for rough cutting to length almost any cable. If you always have both, I think you can't fail.
I'm seeing more and more of the Fiskars stuff, looks like they've been making scissors etc. for a very long time..
But most importantly next time I need new flush cutters, I have to remember Lindstrom. Thank you again for reminding me!
"Buy cheap, buy twice" -> for sure, it might take a while to learn, but if you do you're better off.
I'm content with my Kobalt side cutters, they were found on the ground.
Big Marvel non flush fan here Dave, absolute crack up with the price check; Haven't heard that in years.
Linstrom is my go to too. I've had my 125mm (RS No. 614-766) for over 20 years too, although mine look a lot worse than yours Dave! 🤣
For non-electronics I have an 8" Klein Tools side cutter. It has worked very well, and even have taken some abuse by cutting through nails (3.5" nails). For electronics I have a few cheapies, they work just fine and I don't abuse them.
Try the Dremel with a cutting wheel for nails. Like a knife through butter
Swiss made Erem cutters are the absolute best.
Knipex 78 61 125
Sweden seems to have set the standard for quality tools in the 21st century. If you can afford the outlay, you'll rarely be disappointed. That said, on my desk right now is also Hakko CHP-170, and a generic Husky-branded set from the local home improvement store. The latter had all its fancy plating flake off, but still works a treat. The Hakko set says on the handle it's rated for 1.3 mm (diameter?) wire as its max, so I just use the generic Husky for anything big.
Lindstrom are awesome yes
We used in our shop Plato since the early 80’s and Excellite before that. They were both great up through the late 90’s then they changed and they began wearing out within a year. We are a relatively high volume through hole manufacturer. We then switched over to the red CHP 170 cutters and they are about the same but cheap enough that we just toss them out. It seems the old ones we could re grind once but not anymore. The fancy ones only last as long as you don’t do something stupid and then they wear just as fast. If you baby them they will last, but if you baby cheap ones they last too!
Excellent do those video cable strippers that cut the outer insulation, the braid and the dialectic all at the same time in just a couple of twists. Well worth the money for those that do it professionally.
I did the BigClive and got a bag of the cheapest ones so I don't use my good Knipex ones for crap
I have lindstroms i have been using for 40 years
The qualities of steel varies out the world. India and Pakistan tends to not have the best quality for blades, people don't for instance recommend straight razors from there for that reason. So its a combination of the metal, construction when it comes to tools.
Hi Dave, wrong link for the Lindstrom 8140, it's the same link as the Knipex.
CK Sensoplus for me.
any mention to good micro cutters for SMD work?
Beware of the carbide edged cutters that actually are dental wire cutters. They are neat and shiny but the shape of the head is not right for getting into tight places. Other than that slight inconvenience the carbide dental cutters last forever.
Maybe Xcellite smell was their strategy?
I got some excelta ones at a runout sale on eBay cheap. Didn't know who the company was but they looked alright. They've lasted me ages and I wish I bought more because they are actually quite expensive. For $10-15 they were a bargain.
My favorite pair is the Tronex 7812 ESD safe cutters. About $70 US, made here in the US. They will easily cut a human hair. I’ve had them for several years now.
True about the Xcelite smell. I have a set going back to when I was in high school, back in the mid 1960s. The tools are still in great shape, even though I’ve been using them regularly since I bought them back then. But the overpowering smell is still going great as well, unfortunately. I bought a set of socket wrenches from them a few years ago, on the same design concept. Also great tools, same great smell, though not quite as overpowering. Fortunately, their other tools don’t have those cases, and so don’t smell.
Lindströms are great, running for 10 years with 4 years of assembly line work 9-12h a day! Just don't overload the jaws, even a diamond will break clean off eventually.
The best one is the one I find first.
Hey, I use Knipex 78 06 125 for electronics and 70 02 160 for heavier stuff (cutting solid core wires etc.). While they've seen quite a lot of use and scuffs are clearly visible, they're still great.
BTW, I'm missing your shootout videos, feel free to make some if you want :)
Had some good ones in the past that looked like Knipex and were very good, bought from local electronics store. Broke them at some point and for a while used some worthless Chinese ones. You can't cut steel legs with them, chips immediately. Now using Knipex, expensive, but well worth it. I'm so used to flush cutters, don't want to use anything else. Erem looks like the ultimate for your collection, but can't afford them as hobbyist.
I have multiple cutters by Knipex, e.g. the smaller bolt cutters (71 12 200). Best tool ever for cutting large diameter cable, small things of steel, screws, bolts and stuff. Highly recommended.
The Hakko were a great value, they used to only be $4 at $8 I'd say it's just decent value, because you can still get the cheap chinese cutters for as little as $2 and they're more than good enough for destroying things while keeping the hakko or something nicer just for clipping leads or cutting small wires.
I've got the same yellow no name side cutters as you, had them over 20 years. From either dicksmiths, Tandy I think.
Knipex all the way
Knipex are the best
Lindström or Knipex..
Bergeon or Lindstrom.
I’ll give you a tip, Lindstrom cutters DON’T like any attempts to cut even tiny steel brads, like even 1mm diameter, tiny wire brads. 🙄 How do I know, ..from experience..! 😢 My Lindstrom cutters, now, have a 2mm V shaped air-gap, in their jaws, thanks to me trying to use them to flush-cut a tiny, damn Brad. 😢😢😢
Jewelers have pliers and side cutters for every weird ass position you could possibly imagine, and where damage will cost you/your custy thousands of dollars.
If you use your side cutters for nothing but electronics, even a cheap Chinese pair will last a long time. They cost next to nothing as well. This isn't a tool I would put a huge amount of thought into unless you are a tool nerd.
Also, if you develop even the most minor amount of machinist chops you can just sharpen up the tips yourself on a cheap pair.
Non-flush cutters are ok I guess, but you simply can't strip insulation reliably with them like you can with side cutters - that's my no.1 use of side cutters after lead trimming.
Have you heard of "cable strippers" professionals have been using them for years.
Yamata is best
i just use old nail clippers to cut leads on through-hole stuff!
...ive been meaning to get some sidecutters..but not payin 120$ thats for sure!
You know you can get end cutters at a reasonable price if you mainly use lindstrom side cutters but need to cut down a few posts on a wire wrap board and want a flush cut? Remember though that using bad cutters will burr the ends over and the wrap gun tip will struggle to seat properly for rework
Inferior cutters can actually fracture solder joints that can cause future failures in electronic assemblies.
The crappiest ones are the excelite baby blue ones lol
I like my knipex, my hakko ones are junk
and for value, the harbor freight ones are like $4 and take a lot of abuse
It’s strom in lindstrom. Not lindstron with an n more but an M. Still stron/g like a tree. Lindstrom built the Gripens, put the Gs in them, just like the Germans put the Ks in them Knipex.
Vomit handle .... lol
Lindstrom sold out a long time ago they dont make anything in sweden anymore so if you fall for it based on the brand name, you are a fool. Erem actually makes cutters and pliers in Switzerland and the quality is superior to Lindstrom anyway.