I Can't STAND "Short-Form" Content

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @thiagomanno_c
    @thiagomanno_c 2 года назад +5582

    - Gets 1 million views
    - +$0,12

    • @shadowsun9537
      @shadowsun9537 2 года назад +108

      Le Monet

    • @user-wv8lu3yx4z
      @user-wv8lu3yx4z 2 года назад +73

      :LaughAtThisUser:

    • @Maukiki
      @Maukiki 2 года назад +67

      Fart sfx

    • @Ambiverted
      @Ambiverted 2 года назад +41

      Stonks

    • @PABLO-dw5xs
      @PABLO-dw5xs 2 года назад +53

      please dont say (edit: thx for heart and pin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) you are gonna ruin the whole joke

  • @Shyguymask
    @Shyguymask 2 года назад +2176

    4:03 I mean this is starting to apply to a number of "medium-form" RUclips channels as well. You can look up YT growth "guides" and practically all of them boil down to "Stall the video for more watch time" and "Don't use accurate titles/thumbnails or even use cards because they give the answer the viewers want more quickly". It's sad.

    • @josephkeen7224
      @josephkeen7224 2 года назад +97

      Those “guides” have actually almost made me not want to make videos, thankfully I still plan to once some life stuff is done with.

    • @Panklne
      @Panklne 2 года назад +25

      @The Real Princess Daddy get out

    • @lucianoantoniourionavargas2932
      @lucianoantoniourionavargas2932 2 года назад +12

      Well you know what shyguymask64?!?
      Ratio + didn’t ask + your mom
      NOW GET THE HELL OUTTA HERE

    • @AFunkyFella
      @AFunkyFella 2 года назад +63

      Those guides are a bunch of bullshit. the advice they give is laughably untrue. There's a difference between "going viral" and actual success through social media.
      Besides, why would you trust a "guru" who knows "the secrets of YT" when most of the time, they barely have 50k subs??

    • @sponsoredbywalmart
      @sponsoredbywalmart 2 года назад +21

      @@lucianoantoniourionavargas2932 what

  • @Ani
    @Ani 2 года назад +687

    i saw this post the other day where someone had stitched a tiktok of a man pouring like, a gallon of maple syrup on his pancakes for a quick gag with this stupidly haunting dialogue - something that referenced the physical irony of scrubbing that syrup of the floor 10 seconds afterwards as if worshipping some sort of unloving god. haunting shit, your point about popularity being the goal nowadays reminded me of that pretty heavily.

    • @Xegit
      @Xegit 2 года назад +24

      Tiktok and shorts always make me feel like a piece of garbage.

    • @recitationtohear
      @recitationtohear 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/MyFhsmJ5wzc/видео.html
      Yes..

    • @betin731
      @betin731 2 года назад

      link?

    • @Mexikirb
      @Mexikirb 2 года назад

      I need a link dude.

    • @InsomniaDaydreamer
      @InsomniaDaydreamer 2 года назад +12

      @@recitationtohear Bro quit advertising yourself in reply sections.

  • @skyxclouds3765
    @skyxclouds3765 2 года назад +24

    I think something that makes a BIG diference between "shorts" format and normal videos format is how you watch the things.
    In normal videos on youtube, you can at least CHOOSE what to consume.
    You search what you want to see, you can see what the video is gonna be from watching the thumbnail and title, you are the one who decide which videos are gonna play in your screen, having an oportunity to watch things of quality.
    But with "shorts" format, the algorithm is the one who decides what you're gonna look at.
    Sure, you can choose the first short you're gonna see, but the moment you swip the short the algorithm is the one who takes the control.
    You don't know what you're gonna look at until it plays itself, you could stuck watching a lot of shorts about things you don't like because the algorithm is the one who decide, not you.
    And most of the time you just see popular things, not things you like. And most of the time, those popular things are lazy and low quality things like some attractive person doing a simple dance.
    And the shorts format makes you feel that you should keep swiping, even if you only find trash.
    It makes you think that "oh, if i keep scroling i will find something good", thing that doesn't happen with normal videos, thats why its so addicting.
    I used to have tiktok and always had that problem.
    And let me tell you something, the "for you" sistem sucks anyway.
    Every time i tried to make the algorithm show me tiktoks about things i like it would for a while, but then it would show me things im not interested at all with music i really hate and people doing unfunny/dumb stuff just because its popular.
    Even when i block that content and the app tells me "ok, we will stop showing you things like these", it still doing it!
    Well, sorry for writting too much, i just wanted to vent because i also really dislike the "tiktok" format (mostly because it makes my phone stop working lol), good video man.

    • @steel_gnome
      @steel_gnome Месяц назад

      This. the youtube homepage that you could scroll trough is still okay, like fuck yeah i want to watch some 25min video of a Pakistani man building a motorbike from scrap, but the fact that when you (or then its js me idk if it happens to other people ;-;) click youtube on my phone, the first thing that pops up is the shorts page. And anyone could just subconsciously scroll through that for like 30min and then realizing that you had to watch a tutorial on how to tune a guitar, even tho theres nothing to blame on the consumer, its just how the brain works. Making a multi-million dollar business based purely on short dopamine release isnt fair imo
      Hope you get what im sayin english isnt my first language lol

  • @Muffin_1645
    @Muffin_1645 2 года назад +32

    I cannot express how much I agree with you, man. FINALLY a creator that expresses this stuff and doesn't make the same clickbait short stuff. Instead people like money and popularity, instead of actually making stuff that they themselves and their fans will actually enjoy by exposing them to real content. You're a legend, man.

  • @FelixSR
    @FelixSR 2 года назад +1714

    I don't understand why RUclips tries to copy everything that's popular, instead of just building on top of the stuff that made this site great in the first place...

    • @recitationtohear
      @recitationtohear 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/MyFhsmJ5wzc/видео.html
      Finally it came

    • @Sirzhenshinzxc7199
      @Sirzhenshinzxc7199 2 года назад +4

      Cuz TikTok is better than RUclips cry about it 🤣

    • @Adumbshiba
      @Adumbshiba 2 года назад +202

      @@Sirzhenshinzxc7199 definetly not the fanbase or community. Neither the quality have you seen that mic quality most of the time

    • @cosmicmeatball375
      @cosmicmeatball375 2 года назад +138

      @@Sirzhenshinzxc7199 tiktok and youtube itself shouldn't be compared in my opinion, just the shorts feature

    • @Sirzhenshinzxc7199
      @Sirzhenshinzxc7199 2 года назад +6

      @@Adumbshiba nah people saying TikTok suck cuz they just jealous of TikTok have more people using it

  • @Baguetteling
    @Baguetteling 2 года назад +2008

    i usually find myself sad when i scroll through random youtube content, but this video makes me feel great. have a good day FoeKoe :)

    • @niveditasrinivasan7070
      @niveditasrinivasan7070 2 года назад +15

      @I JUST NEED 285 SUBS noone cares stfu

    • @yourbroskijack
      @yourbroskijack 2 года назад +4

      Becareful on RUclips broski

    • @sillyfegart5455
      @sillyfegart5455 2 года назад +1

      @The Real Princess Daddy aids

    • @Error_code6
      @Error_code6 2 года назад +1

      Same for me but in reverse

    • @extrapathos
      @extrapathos 2 года назад +5

      Same, I can only focus on a few video topics/themes a day before I start feeling depressed.

  • @bingusbingusreal
    @bingusbingusreal 2 года назад +780

    Its always cool to see the still thumbnail art into a short animation to give it more life

    • @Maukiki
      @Maukiki 2 года назад +9

      @@tinpot_ Oh dAMNIT

    • @enejsjskskakshsnaksjdjs9879
      @enejsjskskakshsnaksjdjs9879 2 года назад +23

      @The Real Princess Daddy fatherless behavior

    • @moj1782
      @moj1782 2 года назад

      @The Real Princess Daddy fatherless behavior

    • @Sam_The_Game_Dev
      @Sam_The_Game_Dev 2 года назад

      @The Real Princess Daddy fatherless behavior

    • @laggyhedge
      @laggyhedge 2 года назад

      @the real princess daddy fatherless behavior

  • @soraeatsredtireyummyyummy9603
    @soraeatsredtireyummyyummy9603 2 года назад +191

    You know what, I'm going to say something controversial. The Vine community would've been as bad as the others if it was still around

    • @deadchanel1298
      @deadchanel1298 2 года назад +22

      Finally someone says it

    • @Epicboy099
      @Epicboy099 2 года назад +39

      Just like that one line:
      You either be like vine and die being a hero, or be like tiktok and live long enough to see yourself become the villain of the story.

    • @facebookuser1653
      @facebookuser1653 2 года назад +12

      To be fair, people are doing this because of tiktok's algorithm. I think things would be very different if vine is still as popular and tiktok never existed

    • @Epicboy099
      @Epicboy099 2 года назад +10

      @@facebookuser1653 moral of the story:
      You can be like vine and die a hero
      Or be like tiktok and live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

    • @Thot_Patrol_USA
      @Thot_Patrol_USA 2 года назад +3

      vine was only 7 seconds so how could it even last longer than it did

  • @PossiblyAxolotl
    @PossiblyAxolotl 2 года назад +16

    I don’t like when it’s just a repost of a crappy TikTok on RUclips, or even most crappy TikToks, I like when people put genuine effort into their shorts. I personally try to put as much work as I would into a full video into a short when I do them which I wish I saw more people do

  • @turtleguy4109
    @turtleguy4109 2 года назад +481

    Content on the internet is now either shorter than a minute or longer than an hour. I think you can figure out which one usually has more "passion" as you put it.

    • @djdee6386
      @djdee6386 2 года назад +26

      man you really got 2 annoying spam accounts.

    • @turtleguy4109
      @turtleguy4109 2 года назад +19

      @@djdee6386 2 annoying spam account SO FAR!

    • @syton3634
      @syton3634 2 года назад +25

      Foekoe has bots now? Ripppp

    • @Extremezotako
      @Extremezotako 2 года назад +3

      Yeah

    • @BEANSBEANSBEANS404
      @BEANSBEANSBEANS404 2 года назад +10

      It depends
      If it's " *insert popular thing* for 10 Hours" then
      I'm at a loss of words what the fuck am I doing here

  • @johntheechidna1050
    @johntheechidna1050 2 года назад +366

    you aren't the only one that feels this way foekoe. i try my hardest to make the best content i can, only to see other small creators get a rise in undeserved fame through little to no work by making shorts that just say " make me popular" i really hope quality content comes back, and that these shorts will die down.

    • @Maukiki
      @Maukiki 2 года назад +6

      I dont think they will

    • @Tiny_bigninja
      @Tiny_bigninja 2 года назад +5

      yeah, its so shitty that youtube has got to this point

    • @kamilozo776
      @kamilozo776 2 года назад +4

      Yeah i wanted some subs So i started making few videos but it was no use sadly

    • @unobtainable12
      @unobtainable12 2 года назад +9

      @The Real Princess Daddy 😀👉🚪

    • @skydub7844
      @skydub7844 2 года назад +6

      I want to try to make shorts but then I realised putting a towel over my head to look like a girl kinda looks dumb lol

  • @12345abxdefghijk
    @12345abxdefghijk 2 года назад +213

    I can’t help but agree with this. Flicking through a bunch of shorts just feels like I just cut a chunk of my brain out and melted it down to mush. I know that watching videos as a whole isn’t much better, but at least some videos have something to take away from it.

    • @jeremiahbennett3004
      @jeremiahbennett3004 2 года назад +18

      yeah, i feel like i snapped out of hypnosis when i exit watching shorts.

    • @nintendo_penguin3133
      @nintendo_penguin3133 2 года назад +5

      I deleted youtube mobile for this very reason

    • @facebookuser1653
      @facebookuser1653 2 года назад +1

      It's like scrolling through rule34. You just cannot stop until you're bored or something distract you and making you snap out of it

    • @siamahamed2354
      @siamahamed2354 Год назад

      Block it

  • @Florescentia02
    @Florescentia02 2 года назад +28

    I'm the same way as you. Laying in bed scrolling through shorts for literal hours losing sleep and feeling awful, unable to put it down. Wish there was a way to disable shorts somehow

    • @IAmMarriedToTurkey
      @IAmMarriedToTurkey Год назад +6

      1. Go to the Shorts tab.
      2. Click on the three dots in the corner of one of the shorts.
      3. Click "Not interested."
      4. Keep doing this until the tab is completley gone.
      This method worked for me when i tried to get rid of it and it is super easy. I only to remove two tabs of addicting content until it was completley gone.
      Hope it helps!

    • @CDJAM-webm
      @CDJAM-webm Год назад

      RUclips revanced has an option to completely turn off the shorts shelf and kind of break the shorts part of youtube if you want that.....

  • @Zpakulski1
    @Zpakulski1 2 года назад +2

    Foekoe is the best RUclipsr. I remember scrolling through shorts until i saw this, this is actually good.

  • @j4mbsy
    @j4mbsy 2 года назад +534

    man, i always felt im the only person who hates short content and doesnt consume it, good to know im not alone

    • @the_legendary_fire
      @the_legendary_fire 2 года назад +74

      I am the only person in my class who doesn't have tik tok or uses yt shorts purely because I know that it obliterates your attention span and I love rt game's long form content way too much to go the opposite direction

    • @apersoniguess_
      @apersoniguess_ 2 года назад +5

      I mean if it’s not the shorts themselves it’s probably videos under 5 minutes which is still rather short

    • @Ibbys_space
      @Ibbys_space 2 года назад +8

      you are very much far from alone lmao

    • @n4utiius162
      @n4utiius162 2 года назад

      I watch, although I still hate it

    • @MarxistMogger
      @MarxistMogger 2 года назад +4

      I’m the only person my age I know who doesn’t watch it or really use any social media except discord or RUclips but I don’t think they are social media

  • @UnfamiliarEyes
    @UnfamiliarEyes 2 года назад +455

    What sucks for me is that I totally agree with you, but I can’t stop consuming this content because it’s so easy. I want to play more video games or make art, but I’m so unmotivated, and this content is just so addicting! Great video, dude.

    • @ProvenScroll
      @ProvenScroll 2 года назад +34

      I'm so glad I've kept away from this content for so long, it seems so toxic

    • @Gis_Animations
      @Gis_Animations 2 года назад +9

      I feel the same way as you. I hope you can get better soon :)

    • @odanh6020
      @odanh6020 2 года назад +12

      I don't like shorts,but I'm also addicted at the same time :(

    • @brandonlego
      @brandonlego 2 года назад +1

      I feel the same way too

    • @KickyBuddy
      @KickyBuddy 2 года назад +1

      SAMEEEEE!!!

  • @VeraVemaVena
    @VeraVemaVena 2 года назад +113

    Remember when creators actually tried to make their content unique instead of copying everyone else with a few tiny modifications? Feels like forever ago at this point.

    • @TheAshton2000
      @TheAshton2000 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, sadly

    • @pixelartistperson4977
      @pixelartistperson4977 2 года назад

      I miss the good ol days of youtube

    • @taniamaragomesgomes1912
      @taniamaragomesgomes1912 2 года назад

      No,almost everthing i saw in the "good" old days were atleast 'alot similiar' 💀

    • @VeraVemaVena
      @VeraVemaVena 2 года назад

      @@taniamaragomesgomes1912 sounds like you just watch the same stuff over and over again

    • @andruspolanco6935
      @andruspolanco6935 2 года назад +1

      @@VeraVemaVena gameplay channels are copies of each other technically like "oh this person recorded a gameplay and commented on it with his voice and face,I'm gonna do it too" and everybody copied the same way.

  • @Ubdedman
    @Ubdedman 2 года назад +4

    every time i get off a youtube short binge i think "i could've been doing work or gaming. i just forgot what i was watching faster than i could forget the best dream of my life after waking up."

  • @alanavalos6645
    @alanavalos6645 2 года назад +6

    Y know, you do inspire and remind me that I should try to make a genuine passion of content if I ever have time, and not join the pile of trash and crappy pranks

  • @FulsomeFrog
    @FulsomeFrog 2 года назад +94

    Honestly I am both surprised and glad I avoided getting involved in tiktok and RUclips shorts because of how it seems most people around me are obsessed with TikTok and hearing about this cycle people get locked into, it’s just shocking to see this all happen and not be in it myself.

    • @TheAshton2000
      @TheAshton2000 2 года назад +11

      Yeah, my friends are constantly like you should get TikTok, but as soon as TikTok came around I despised it and made a promise to never get TikTok, and I do not regret it lol

    • @pixelartistperson4977
      @pixelartistperson4977 2 года назад +8

      @@TheAshton2000 Tiktok just sucks with all of the trends and crap... i know its already been said a ton but yeah good call

    • @charlestonianbuilder344
      @charlestonianbuilder344 2 года назад +1

      and its inescapable, you may not have the app but its on other platforms aswell

    • @Meshguy
      @Meshguy 2 года назад +2

      You know… some people are so addicted to shorts that when I try to convince them to quit, they lash out at me. They write in ALL CAPS and swear at me in every single sentence. It is like trying to convince a flat earther that the earth is round.

    • @cupkin4850
      @cupkin4850 2 года назад +1

      @@Meshguy What kind of people are you friends with

  • @dred_dreamr
    @dred_dreamr 2 года назад +249

    > hates short form content
    > video is 5 minutes
    Jokes aside, I completely agree Foekoe... I honestly wish there was a way I could just turn of RUclips shorts because I always end up saving a video to watch later, then when I actually have time to watch it I just get sucked into meaningless content for hours and it makes me feel weird afterwards. I will always love your content man, I appreciate the passion you put into your work.

    • @deadchanel1298
      @deadchanel1298 2 года назад +18

      5 minutes is not a short time

    • @luigigaming2717
      @luigigaming2717 2 года назад +4

      There is a way to completely get rid of them just go to the browser version of youtube and it's completely gone although the browser version is kinda shit beacuse it's ment for computers not your phone

    • @Overdrive-_-
      @Overdrive-_- 2 года назад +14

      5 minutes isnt what u call short
      Short is like 1 min or less

    • @ashleycd6487
      @ashleycd6487 2 года назад +1

      @@Overdrive-_- a short is like 20 seconds long maximum

    • @jerecakes1
      @jerecakes1 2 года назад +1

      tbf, 5 minutes is on the shorter side relative to what you can see on this site

  • @viktorgrezu7874
    @viktorgrezu7874 2 года назад +170

    I wish this trend of "short-formed" content is just like any of trend and dies down, because it's sad seeing the level that people go down to to get temporary popularity on the internet. Not only does it motivate creators to make worse content but it also has an effect on the viewers. It's nice to see some people who are against it.

    • @maybeyes2753
      @maybeyes2753 2 года назад +3

      Unfortunately, it will take a long time

    • @mreel6823
      @mreel6823 2 года назад +4

      I do agree that the cringe will die down soon although my prediction is that in about 5 to 10ish years the government in England (where I live in) will ban all short vid cringe-milking platforms due to how much crime is happening due to people milking the algorithms to take advantage of new people to watch they’re cringe

    • @viktorgrezu7874
      @viktorgrezu7874 2 года назад +1

      @@mreel6823 very cringe

    • @siamahamed2354
      @siamahamed2354 Год назад

      ​@@mreel6823damm

  • @stargazingsongs
    @stargazingsongs 2 года назад +2

    deleting tiktok was unironically the best thing i’ve done for my mental health in years

  • @iKiwed
    @iKiwed 2 года назад +2

    Nicely done video. I want to point the "sad" moment from my viewpoint. I have made content creation like animation for about 2-3 years. A lovely moment with a lot of earned experience with programs like Vegas Pro, Clip Studio etc.
    At the middle of my career I noticed a strong, impassible sense of nausea and, yeah, sadness from the oppressing RUclips guidelines, which retroactively tells you to remake your most famous video with the trend of the moment to maintain the fanbase through their algorithm.
    This is why we see a lot of Poppy Playtime or FNAF in the style of Minecraft. I don't consider these videos bad, they just follow the average appeal. What scares me the most is the creator's passion stamina.
    Yeah, you earn money if you do a they ask, for sure.
    But the gap between your ideas and the RUclips requirements for success gets bigger and bigger until you are forced the just... Recycle.
    And if you are a content creator this is a bad thing for your creativeness, because content creators are artists, and artists have to express their design. If your mean to create art is extremely barebones like nowadays on RUclips, you either do like people do on TikTok or just quit, because these mediums are not for (all the) content creators.
    I definitely miss the old days for the fact that you didn't have to worry of these things. Now you do, and content creation isn't the same anymore.

  • @slimepixel
    @slimepixel 2 года назад +72

    I actually learned this myself from watching too much youtube.
    I stopped looking at hype or clickbaity stuff because it didn't give me anything in return making me feel feelings of :
    -Non-productivity
    -Dumbnes
    -And overall emptiness.
    Which made me reevaluate whats trully important to me
    And from then on from time to time I tried to unsubscribe from people whose content didnt brought anything worth to my life
    Thanks to that im more causious of what im watching.
    Tiktok basicly throws it all out of a window and does not let me control all of that
    I hope i got the message out clearly.

    • @aceeonyt57
      @aceeonyt57 2 года назад +1

      Hmm me too but in a early age

    • @kapcapkapcap6104
      @kapcapkapcap6104 2 года назад +5

      Me too. Honestly unsubscribing won't work, youtube will still post more addictive things in your feed. The best you can do is just to not use it.

    • @ictogon
      @ictogon 2 года назад +1

      Dumbnes

    • @HowBigistheMap
      @HowBigistheMap 2 года назад

      So true

  • @BU-FL
    @BU-FL 2 года назад +129

    I feel genuinely uncomfortable watching TikToks and RUclips shorts. They make me feel like I'm wasting my time on this planet yet I go back to them at least once a day. There has been Soo many times where I have had a good video idea but I'm too lazy to do it. TikTok is slowly seeping into everyone's lives. I mean my friends will blast them into the mic when we are waiting to load into a game. They suck. Also watch Funke and Scott the Woz they are amazing

    • @dragonslayer7724
      @dragonslayer7724 2 года назад +4

      They both appeared in 1:18, alongside some other RUclipsrs I recognize, like Internet Historian, Alan Becker, Emplemon, Dolan Dark, Uncle Dane, and a few others I was too lazy to name.

    • @shalvei_
      @shalvei_ 2 года назад +2

      @@dragonslayer7724 that's why they've mentioned them.

    • @matildec.4202
      @matildec.4202 2 года назад

      @@dragonslayer7724 i like how 3 of them are tf2 tubers, that says a lot about our society

  • @bobakakorb4822
    @bobakakorb4822 2 года назад +78

    The older i get, the more relatable foekoe gets.
    But for real i thought i was the only one who wasted time on shorts and dumb shit.

  • @Jontohil2
    @Jontohil2 2 года назад +1

    As someone who loves to create, it really sticks out to me when someone actually made something that THEY wanted to make. And it also painfully sticks out when they make something just to be popular or some other boring motive. Look at the comments in this video, the pinned comment is a silly joke and the other hearted one is like that because Foekoe read through it, found it to be an interesting addition to the discussion, and decided to heart it because it adds to his own video.
    One thing that really bugs me about "Short-form" content is that it's a massive example of quantity over quality. I'd much prefer longer videos that have a central theme or idea instead of getting a seizure from tons of half-baked ones that cram it into a single minute.
    The only "Short-form" stuff I like on RUclips is stuff that's not trying to pass itself off as 'content', like shitposts, since they're just a silly low effort idea someone had and wanted to share.

  • @glenn87104
    @glenn87104 2 года назад +90

    Foekoe you are not small but you're so honest no sponsors its nice to see that there are still really good content creators you're up there with videogamedunkey pyronical high quality content keep going i supported my favorite youtuber done

    • @VeraVemaVena
      @VeraVemaVena 2 года назад +16

      Sponsors aren't all that bad, you gotta make some extra money somehow. If you're talking about those RUclipsrs who have every video sponsored by Raid Shadow Legends and other sewage sludge games then go ahead.

    • @glenn87104
      @glenn87104 2 года назад +1

      @@VeraVemaVena yeah its fine but it can be annoying if foekoe makes a shorter video he criticised raid so he probably wont get a sponsor im obsessed with foekoe every video watched twice to 20times lol

    • @abandonedchannel1010
      @abandonedchannel1010 2 года назад +1

      @@VeraVemaVena but as viewers hate sponsors, i still prefer patreon and merchandising for funding the channel.

  • @Abaw
    @Abaw 2 года назад +132

    I honestly think the worst part about these type of short videos is how they're addictive to the point where they ruin our attention spans making us want short videos more than normal ones
    I may sound like a boomer here but I'm seriously worried about future generations

    • @austinwang1298
      @austinwang1298 2 года назад +15

      the average attention span is 12 seconds thanks to ads.

    • @pixelartistperson4977
      @pixelartistperson4977 2 года назад +11

      im also worried about future generations i bet there attention spans will be so bad eventually that schools will have to do some funky stuff to make the lesson more engaging to the point where they'll barley learn anything.

    • @teehee42069
      @teehee42069 2 года назад +12

      All of my friends who consume tiktok and other short form content have bad attention spans. I love them a lot but my god I cannot stand it when they start watching tiktok out of nowhere while we're talking.

    • @rxedisnolongercake
      @rxedisnolongercake 2 года назад +1

      @@teehee42069 I relate to that too, when I try calling one of my friends they dont even pay attention to me, unless their mother is around them or something.

    • @kenos911
      @kenos911 2 года назад +2

      The attention span problem was brought up since the days of 4chan, I did my due diligence and most studies I can find see no link between using social media and attention spans

  • @kaak12ijdewiojfcojsdfio
    @kaak12ijdewiojfcojsdfio 2 года назад +40

    i feel exactly the same about short form content, it's so addicting and so uninteresting at the same time, it's mind numbing really. the only shorts i don't regret watching are styropyro and nile red's but even those feel lacking compared to even their shorter videos

  • @Abn3zer
    @Abn3zer 2 года назад +1

    This is exactly why i watch you, one of the rare people who show true passion with their videos and content. thanks for everything you do foe

  • @boostiostio5980
    @boostiostio5980 2 года назад

    personally i have tiktok and i get sucked into watching shorts pretty commonly
    but it doesn't really affect my mood, it just makes me spend like an hour and a half in my bed
    and i do miss the passion youtube had as well. i haven't watched youtube ever since 2005 (because i wasn't alive back then)
    but i also grew up on this platform in a sort of way and i miss the fun stuff, and people who actually cared about making banger videos
    so i kind of agree with this video, keep up the good work foekoe! you are one of the last few people who put passion and love into your videos and i appreciate it!

  • @azzybutonYT
    @azzybutonYT 2 года назад +48

    Yeah I pretty much agree. The evolution from vine to TikTok is really bizarre. It just turned from funny talented people doing something funny and creative, to how can I make this guy stay on my platform longer? Like there are still cool people out there but the trash screams louder

    • @oliverjade6998
      @oliverjade6998 2 года назад +2

      bill wurtz was the best guy on vine

  • @terrarianender
    @terrarianender 2 года назад +39

    As a content creator, I always try to avoid jumping on meme or content bandwagons, because to me it just feels like I'm getting undeserved views and likes for something I put very little effort into.
    There's a certain feeling of satisfaction I get after pouring hours of work and passion into a video edit and seeing it get even just 100 views. I wouldn't get that same feeling seeing a short-form shitpost I spent maybe 10 minutes editing get a million views.

    • @petermen_2005
      @petermen_2005 2 года назад +3

      I have the same thought as you, man. As a content creator also, it is VERY satisfying on a video you have passion on. It's kinda like the same feeling as finishing all of your homework. It feels awarding and makes me feel happy about myself :)

    • @deadchanel1298
      @deadchanel1298 2 года назад +2

      As a shitty meme RUclipsr (Who's 99%of its content is just stolen) , i rarerly jump on trends because of that

    • @shinygoldenpotion1587
      @shinygoldenpotion1587 Год назад

      I have the same thought too as if I posted the same content in like 2013 i would have 300 subs by now or even more but thanks to shorts and short attention spans my vids arent exactly given their propers, even when I do something creative or put effort into something

  • @NorthEevee
    @NorthEevee 2 года назад +52

    One nice thing that came out of Tik-Tok's focus on short-form videos was people on RUclips focusing more on longer content, like documentaries such.
    One lad that is pretty much the king of long-form - and blew up in popularity last year - was a guy named Wendigoon. I know I shouldn't be shilling a lad here, but he makes some good stuff.

  • @lucasoliveira5579
    @lucasoliveira5579 2 года назад +1

    I remember going on my phone and just watching youtube videos and then I just see youtube shorts and I tap on the screen and never stop watching it. It was just too addicting for me great video Foekoe

  • @Cake_Animations
    @Cake_Animations 2 года назад +1

    I understand how you feel, I had people commenting on my channel saying "your animations would get more popular if u put them in shorts" and I always have to tell them that I'm not animating to be popular, I'm doing it because it's my passion it's something I enjoy I don't care about money or attention

  • @stefanandrejevic2570
    @stefanandrejevic2570 2 года назад +22

    I'm so glad I was around the golden era of RUclips, and it's very sad seeing newer generations thinking Tiktok is the best thing to ever exist and not knowing what they missed out on

    • @lumpstergash2380
      @lumpstergash2380 2 года назад

      This will be the "good old days" to them too and saying in ten years this exact same thing, with a youtuber like this guy talking about how annoying the new features are

    • @lumpstergash2380
      @lumpstergash2380 2 года назад

      But instead, it's the golden days of TikTok. Before tiktok gets even worse somehow.

  • @Dabs_All_Ovar
    @Dabs_All_Ovar 2 года назад +33

    Ironic how there's a "create" youtube short button on the video.
    Great vid as always 👍

    • @wojerd
      @wojerd 2 года назад +9

      i hate that because that basically means you can straight up steal someone's content for a bit and then be like "this is mine! make me popular now!!!" its like the same energy as tracing stuff and then passing it off that you made it like goddamn why.

    • @MyHandleIsAplaceholder
      @MyHandleIsAplaceholder 2 года назад

      @@wojerd the internet is about stealing stuff unless it's copyrighted

    • @wojerd
      @wojerd 2 года назад

      @@MyHandleIsAplaceholder i get that but youtube made that only for capital gain

  • @Sapphire_Eye
    @Sapphire_Eye 2 года назад +25

    The only shorts i endorse are Voice Actors voicing shitposts

  • @jebcoe
    @jebcoe 2 года назад +1

    sometimes i find a gem in shorts, but mostly i hate it because it made a lot of videos automatically into shorts and its stupid

  • @theblueone6848
    @theblueone6848 2 года назад +14

    As someone who attempting to pursue streaming as a career, shorts content is a pretty good way to kick it off due to its algorithm, and it requires less patience than youtube. Since videos get viral pretty much randomly and often, it's a good starting point before branching out into more long term options such as RUclips or Twitch.
    Edit: I do agree that most shorts content is very lazy though, and there's also a massive content theft problem on tiktok and probably other platforms too. It is a shame to see lazy content get so many views, but I have seen a lot of people with a genuine passion for tiktok.

    • @Thunderblock7889
      @Thunderblock7889 Год назад

      Tiktok and short are not good. They need to be deleted. Shorts are not content. And for the record tiktok is poison.

  • @Architect1
    @Architect1 2 года назад +11

    If you study content creation for long enough, you’ll find that the passionate ones are the ones who have the most longevity and trust from the audience. If you lack passion and effort, it’s noticeable. Chasing numbers is largely arbitrary

  • @dukman9904
    @dukman9904 2 года назад +58

    I feel the same way with this short content. i'd rather watch a 10 minute video than a 60 second one and most of the good shorts creators have long videos on another channel.

    • @cardboardking577
      @cardboardking577 2 года назад +1

      @The Real Princess Daddy What is up with troll bots and Markiplier

    • @SurmenianSoldier
      @SurmenianSoldier 2 года назад +1

      @@cardboardking577 popular man = more attention

    • @cardboardking577
      @cardboardking577 2 года назад +1

      @@SurmenianSoldier they could use mrbeast tho. Far more kids that would attack the troll= more attention, more subs that the reply is about= more attention, universally loved = more attention.

    • @CM-di1oz
      @CM-di1oz 2 года назад

      Id go one step further and say I’d prefer monthly well made 30 minute videos to daily 10 minute uploads

    • @dukman9904
      @dukman9904 2 года назад

      @@CM-di1oz yes i agree

  • @Ty3005
    @Ty3005 2 года назад +11

    1:43 I am so glad he showed these as an example to his point.

    • @mr.eggawott8372
      @mr.eggawott8372 2 года назад +4

      I’ve seen those shitposts everywhere on youtube and they’re the bane of my existence

  • @SimpleFlips
    @SimpleFlips 2 года назад +9

    omgggg

  • @sear9993
    @sear9993 2 года назад +2

    I wish someone would make a hacked version of RUclips where it just completely blocks RUclips shorts. A while ago, I decided that I wouldn't watch shorts anymore, but I still click on one when I see it and then I instantly get sucked into a loop of scrolling. I think that when it gets to the point where someone has to literally make the conscious decision to not use a certain feature, that feature is a bad one. I'm glad that I'm not the only person with this opinion.

  • @jitterbug3545
    @jitterbug3545 2 года назад +9

    So glad someone is talking about this. Anytime I fall into a bottomless pit of 30 second videos I feel my brain melting into goo; but man it's sadly addicting. Hoping this will just be a corner or phase of the internet, not it's future. Love your videos so much, they make my day 😊 (also loved the infinite gameplay :D)

  • @thecrimsonaxe6037
    @thecrimsonaxe6037 2 года назад +5

    Dude this is so accurate! The algorithms aren't designed with your happiness in mind, they're just designed to keep you hooked forever and ever. It just wastes your time and ruins your attention span.

  • @coralcrowglow
    @coralcrowglow 2 года назад +9

    Just wanted to mention one of the rare examples of a high quality channel that focuses on shorts and takes advantage of the medium:
    ANDYLAND is great and has created some brilliant animations that take advantage of the looping nature of shorts!

  • @monkers9890
    @monkers9890 2 года назад +1

    are we gonna talk about how nice the thumbnail looks, godamn foekoe you really outdid yourself with this one.

  • @etac774
    @etac774 2 года назад +1

    I somehow managed to stop watching shorts by just watching longer content and creators from my childhood, I can actually scroll past shorts without caring at all. It's surprising really helped with my health and I have more time to do homework and go camping. It's WAY nicer than youtube shorts.

  • @hugohickman7694
    @hugohickman7694 2 года назад +10

    2:14 It's not bigger than google
    The search you are using as a base uses the number of requests for access to main servers for information. The tiktok code is poorly optimized asking for multiple times access to the servers unnecessarily inflating this number.

  • @sharknana7221
    @sharknana7221 2 года назад +13

    although I do agree with the mental health problems of short form content I will say that these tiktoks and "shorts" are a great for starting a community and just starting to make videos because for new people it can be scary paralyzing even and habing shorter videos can help with that problem

    • @0vtz
      @0vtz 2 года назад

      ya mean having

    • @MatchaCutie14
      @MatchaCutie14 2 года назад +7

      They're great for artists I'd say. Like there are A LOT of them there that produce great artwork.

  • @CarloBiava05
    @CarloBiava05 2 года назад +5

    2:08 common misconception, tiktok actually just pings its domain more often, it isn't actually more visited or popular

    • @sky92301
      @sky92301 2 года назад

      Ikr what is this list based on anyway

  • @ddd9482
    @ddd9482 2 года назад +2

    1:31 That's a word I haven't heard in a good time, for the time I've been consuming content I haven't seen passion in the majorities of videos I think that content creation is suppose to inspired others instead of making them feel sad because they don't have the popularity or just feel nothing about the content besides a simple wow or giggle, longer videos that have passion make you feel something, extreme happiness or excitement that's something that I wish I could see more often out of short videos.

  • @MorNloR
    @MorNloR 2 года назад +1

    i might sound crazy but there is a lot of videos in yt shorts that have a lot of passion and hard work on it that is actually funny

  • @dillmen101
    @dillmen101 2 года назад +6

    the thing about youtube Shorts is that there really easy to get into the algorithm and most shorts and very low effort and easy to make, it’s basically easy to get views and attention with such low effort content

  • @YesingtonYes
    @YesingtonYes 2 года назад +9

    RUclipsrs back then: how can I extend my video to 10 / 8 minutes
    RUclipsrs now: how can I compress all of my videos and ideas to less then a minute

  • @EldiniTheGenie
    @EldiniTheGenie 2 года назад +82

    Shorts is just where the cringe side of RUclips takes refuge in

    • @romemaster
      @romemaster 2 года назад +14

      And people who left tik tok

    • @VeraVemaVena
      @VeraVemaVena 2 года назад +13

      @The Real Princess Daddy People really see a tragedy involving someone/something and go "I bet making fun of this will get me attention!"
      Well congrats, you got it. Just keep in mind that attention and clout are different things, and you're not getting any of the latter.

    • @cattail789
      @cattail789 2 года назад +5

      @The Real Princess Daddy people like you are terrible.

    • @Junistheog
      @Junistheog 2 года назад

      @@romemaster atleast theres some good "tiktok content creator" that goes here to make better content

    • @spooktspeek
      @spooktspeek 2 года назад +3

      i dont want my short videos to be labelled as shorts, but youtube does it automatically. god dammit let me have my short videos in peace

  • @Rowlet7897
    @Rowlet7897 2 года назад +1

    I love that you mentioned shank mods in your favorite creators!

  • @margon9181
    @margon9181 2 года назад +5

    At this point I only watch videos that are up to or over an hour long, because the creator can actually iron out their arguments rather than spitballing them and not explaining anything.

  • @blanper724
    @blanper724 2 года назад +4

    3:45 I feel really identified with this, you are just procastinating watching shorts and you can feel the low-quality content, even when you are cringing about all of the garbage you are consuming you just can't stop scrolling, they are definetly really adicting.

  • @armans-t5d
    @armans-t5d 2 года назад +6

    The worst part is that shorts get more views than normal videos

  • @GoniMineCraft
    @GoniMineCraft 2 года назад +7

    I remember back in the day my parents would prevent me from watching Nick a CN because they were "a bad influence" and how "old stuff good new stuff bad". And based on this video, in a way, a similar thing is happening to us as well. Not saying that "our parent were right all along" and stuff, just you know, we can't agree with everything.
    BTW hot take: Vine was never that great.

    • @TheAshton2000
      @TheAshton2000 2 года назад +1

      I feel like the difference with vine if you are comparing it to TikTok is that for vine, at least of what I saw it was just people who had fun ideas for videos, and it seemed to be the majority unless I am wrong, since I was a kid(still am lol) when vine was around, but still, I feel like vine is at least better then Tiktok

    • @deadchanel1298
      @deadchanel1298 2 года назад

      Bruh same.
      Also vine is only remembered because a lot of People Like me used it as Kids.

  • @namesvanilla5479
    @namesvanilla5479 2 года назад +1

    I also feel horrible jumping down the shorts rabbit hole. Yesterday I watched a 6 hour Game Grumps video and loved every second of it, so it just goes to show how little I care for short form content.

  • @Popslushy
    @Popslushy 2 года назад +1

    After a while of scrolling through shorts I feel sick because it’s just so dumb but you don’t realize it after watching all of it

  • @codexstudios
    @codexstudios 2 года назад +9

    I enjoy long-form content a LOT more, either as background noise or my primary focus. It just feels like it has more substance.
    There is high-quality short-form content out there (marioinatophat makes great payday memes), but it's way harder to find than the cookie cutter garbage. Also, screw that vertical aspect ratio.

    • @Sasha-zw9ss
      @Sasha-zw9ss 2 года назад +1

      As someone with a dumbphone who browses almost exclusively from desktop... Fuck vertical videos!

  • @joedou7glas200
    @joedou7glas200 2 года назад +13

    Honestly, From the pile of crap shorts are, The good ones you find are REALLY GOOD.

    • @romemaster
      @romemaster 2 года назад +1

      The 1%

    • @Row_of_E
      @Row_of_E 2 года назад +1

      GabeSweats?

    • @ryanp7546
      @ryanp7546 2 года назад

      @@Row_of_E what about red nile

  • @iwantedtobethatanomaly2270
    @iwantedtobethatanomaly2270 2 года назад +2

    The thing that annoys me is when channels post the same short video like 50+ times on their channel and just farm views.

  • @YaboiTombuto
    @YaboiTombuto 2 года назад

    I've been trying to avoid this kind of content but I too could not escape it, and have gotten sucked into it. But it's also gotten me to really appreciate good quality youtubers that I really enjoy watching and you're one of the people I like the most on this platform. Keep making the content you love, because I'm sure I'm not alone when I say that watching a good long video like this or like other videos you've done will for ever be more entertaining and more rewarding than seeing these shorts that are now overtaking everything else.

  • @jadearo9397
    @jadearo9397 2 года назад +5

    It’s like the playlist of instant regret all over again

  • @jorcornel558
    @jorcornel558 2 года назад +15

    I absolutely despise Tiktok. I think its one of the absolute biggest downfalls of our generation. It just teaches kids that being popular and doing cool dances over music is fuffiling, and its leading to this massive brain drain on kids. I remember seeing this artist on tiktok that painted photo-realistic paintings. It was amazing, but he barely gets any followers. Instead the most famous person on tiktok is a girl who does funny things with overlayed music. It just makes me depressed man.

  • @kotomishione
    @kotomishione 2 года назад +13

    accidentally clicked notif while doing something on blender but sure, i'll watch it

  • @wolfytronic
    @wolfytronic 2 года назад +1

    Worst part is the kids in my school don't even watch the videos themselves, they just scroll through endlessly. I actually hate TikTok because of this, it is literally feasting on our attention span

  • @skeletonking2501
    @skeletonking2501 2 года назад +2

    It feels like most social media in general is intended to make you binged and hooked for an unhealthy amount of time.

  • @webberinternetpolice6431
    @webberinternetpolice6431 2 года назад +3

    I am so glad that I never started watching shorts and avoided then like the plague because this stuff has been going way to far into people's heads

  • @dimitricandeiracistaro4543
    @dimitricandeiracistaro4543 2 года назад +4

    Everyday, I believe more and more that humanity has salvation and the outcasts of society truly don't matter in the grand scheme of things, smart people like you will make a true diference

  • @us_is_we9263
    @us_is_we9263 2 года назад +20

    Yeah I really don’t like shorts, but I think the new “react meta” on twitch is much much worst. It’s a complete spit in the face to the creators of the shows and content creators who spend time and passion on making good content, it’s lazy and takes no effort whatsoever.

  • @djdelicious2034
    @djdelicious2034 2 года назад +2

    I woke up, watched this video agreeing wholeheartedly, then immediately afterward got sucked into the RUclips shorts for two hours. The irony.
    Now I'm two hours behind schedule. What a cruel world.

  • @leoultimaupgraded9914
    @leoultimaupgraded9914 2 года назад

    I like your takes on short form content, they’ve given me a new perspective

  • @arbitraryinsomnia828
    @arbitraryinsomnia828 2 года назад +5

    I’m glad foekoe is the one of the only youtubers that admits that The RUclips algorithm is terrible

    • @modables
      @modables 2 года назад

      ??? that's every fucking youtuber

  • @beensjamin
    @beensjamin 2 года назад +3

    RUclips Shorts shits all over RUclips. Instead of rewarding people who make original content, it rewards those who copy and paste videos off of TikTok.

  • @somewildseal
    @somewildseal 2 года назад +18

    I never really understood the "Short form content is addicting" thing since I get bored of them after no kidding like 2 minutes if I'm in a patient mood. I can however watch a documentary about some random ass subject for like 5 hours straight. I guess I should be happy that I can't give less of a shit about shorts, but for those that do get addicted I heard it sucks. Get better ShitTok and RUclips Shits (yes I know cringe names stfu ok)

    • @deadchanel1298
      @deadchanel1298 2 года назад +1

      Bruh same.
      The only thing that prevents me from binge-watching long videos is School and personal crap im not gonna say online

  • @engineergaming2010
    @engineergaming2010 2 года назад

    I love your videos man. This is a situation that needs some more light on it. Good to see you’re saying something

  • @ShOwOba
    @ShOwOba 2 года назад +1

    God, the downward spiral reference is perfect for this...

  • @Detah_
    @Detah_ 2 года назад +7

    shorts content proves our attention spans are rotting away

  • @freddy4603
    @freddy4603 2 года назад +6

    I can't believe I became a boomer even before I hit my 20s. Truth is, we are out of touch, tiktok is disgusting, until you realise it's because we're no longer part of the new trends. The same "miserable" point could be said about binging let's plays instead of playing the game, or playing an addicting game instead reading something, or reading something instead of actually doing anything fun irl, or doing meaningless crap instead of accomplishing fulfilling goals.
    To each their own level of what disgusts you.

  • @alexlovesyouvt34
    @alexlovesyouvt34 2 года назад +7

    Emperor Lemon has been one of the longest running creators since RUclipss creation. Massive respect to him for standing this long, and makes good shit over the longest time despite how youtube turned into over the years

    • @buddygettingnutty8351
      @buddygettingnutty8351 2 года назад +4

      Not to mention a big turn around, went from making shitty YTP videos to making informative well edited videos.

    • @petermen_2005
      @petermen_2005 2 года назад +3

      @@buddygettingnutty8351 I actually love his YTP videos back then. The editing quality sucks, but man does it have a lot of good jokes here on out.

    • @deadchanel1298
      @deadchanel1298 2 года назад

      @@buddygettingnutty8351 his ytps were fine tbh

    • @emirkara8660
      @emirkara8660 2 года назад

      Don’t forget Alan becker my man is still standing out and making Minecraft less bad

  • @cononsberg6919
    @cononsberg6919 2 года назад +1

    I just realized that one inherent problem with most social media is that when you interact with something (i.e. a video, a post, anything that you have to interact with to see the full thing) you're gonna see more of that because you interacted with it, and most of us know that. And, it's been getting to the point where we stop looking at things that deserve to be looked at because yeah, it's good, but I don't feel like having my recommendations flooded with it right now.
    This could actually be solved fairly easily by adding an option to say "hey, I want to see more of this kind of stuff" (I'm not talking about a like button here, that makes it quantifiable and therefore would be used as a reward for the individual creator of the content. They should be two different things)
    At least, I think that would kind of work. It would be better than just flooding my recommended with stupid videos because I was curious and watched that other stupid video for three seconds longer :l

  • @shurikenshrunken005
    @shurikenshrunken005 Год назад +1

    RUclips just cares about money now.
    The reason i still use RUclips is to watch game tutorials, free to play games (i dont wanna spend $80 on a game right now) and that's all!
    Short form videos are:
    -addicting
    -low quality
    -repetitve
    -inappropriate

  • @daviddavidsson6243
    @daviddavidsson6243 2 года назад +3

    Totaly agree with everything in this video

  • @zulol
    @zulol 2 года назад +4

    all of the kid friendly attention grabbing bs on this platform really leaves most of the smaller creators like myself hopeless. ive been doing the best content i can slowly improving over time. no matter how hard i try to make the vid as entertaining as i can it always gets like 70 views in the first 2 weeks and then it goes up to like 200 in the next months. i refuse to make constant shorts instead of long passionate videos bc i think its a really scummy way to get an audience.

  • @loraleesherman
    @loraleesherman 2 года назад +4

    3:22 there extremely god dam addicting well I think not but you have and I know that

  • @lutriss
    @lutriss 2 года назад +1

    Short form content can be good when you're not looking to be invested in something yet want to be entertained, but when taking in large amounts is when the feeling of sadness and laziness kicks in.

  • @whitish1968
    @whitish1968 2 года назад +1

    I do agree. I absolutely hate the "shorts" and the "clips" channels. I literally see a dude with and among us profile picture and a roblox smiling face slapped on to it get 100+ views on a very short video that is rendered correctly, he used to be at like 13 subscribers, i haven't checked in on him in a while

  • @domdude491
    @domdude491 2 года назад +8

    It feels like it was made to be the most addiciting thing and 70% is the same

  • @catastoph2939
    @catastoph2939 2 года назад +4

    Watching RUclips go from cool, weird, and funny videos to the trash heap it is now, just reinforces the idea that the more people geting into something the more shite that something will become.
    We need to purge the kids off this site so they stop bloating shitty youtubers, it's really sad lmao