Light inspires me to become more intelligent. And even to marry someone as smart as him. I somehow have the tendency to get stuck with dumb people and it's so unfulfilling.
While it’s admirable to be this smart, these people have a lot of shortcomings in relationships. Usually extremely intelligent people are arrogant, lack desire for committed relationships, have social skill issues and difficulties relating to the average person. Not to mention, usually smart people will hang around birds of a feather and want someone or something that can challenge them intellectually, you being able to check that box is definitely a question. It’s great that you’d like to marry someone smart but someone to this degree can be trouble for all sorts of reasons. The anime’s depiction of what intelligence is somewhat exaggerated and then also characters are written to be extremely personable. These sorta people are extremely far n few between irl, and truthfully someone that would resemble either Light or L and have their head on straight would be almost unprecedented.
Some people are very gifted as Light is, but for most ordinary people it's a matter of practice and proper studying. Most of us can have great potential if we apply ourselves. That being said, intelligence can be a curse without wisdom. It's one thing to know how, it's another thing to know why. Make sure that if you're doing something, that it's worth your time in the first place. It's most likely that you know you're choosing dumb people, you're just not realizing it as soon as you'd like to know. There are certain qualities that are more attractive to people at first glance and in today's society most people tend to pick based on that. Make sure you get to know the person first before getting in too deep. Stupid qualities can seem more attractive at first glance compared to intelligent qualities.
@@vis4violence I can agree with most of this actually, but funnily enough I remember reading a study some time ago that the lower the IQ of a person was, the more arrogant or more likely to be arrogant they were as they heavily overestimated their abilities and thought they were smarter than they actually were. Smarter people do actually have more trouble getting into relationships for a couple of reasons, some which you mentioned. They tend to be more cautious and more picky about who they choose, which can be both a good and bad thing depending on the qualities they're looking for, but they also tend to be more awkward and have trouble interacting as you said and that's usually because there are less smart people than their are dumb ones.
@@clueanalysis2596 ty for the words! I agree with you too and I have seen that study too! It’s honestly really interesting because you can definitely find people at both sides of the spectrum. Those who are arrogant and smart and those who THINK they hold a candle but fall short. Unfortunately you are absolutely correct on the above comment about how society usually chooses the more attractive person to solve the relationship equation, not realizing that their is something that lies deeper in said person. (In lights case a serial/mass murderer) Look at people like Epstein. Smart as all get out, completely outsmarted the owner or ceo or wtv of Victoria’s Secret and manipulated him out of his money. While in financial kahoots with Harvard from the money and position he was in. What did he do with his smarts? Well… uhh.. fill in the blanks. I really like your point on how you definitely need to get to know a person before assuming their qualities as well and really ties in well with my previous point of questioning whether or not OP would even be a good candidate for the person they admire.
@ It's a matter of thinking logically over being emotional. Yes, you want to feel love for a person, but love isn't enough to qualify being in a relationship with this person. You also have to have respect and reasonable boundaries. A balanced relationship where both partners do things not because the other wants them to but because they want to do it for them. If one side is just all about getting and not giving, it's not going to work. Yes, you can want certain things from your partner, but you also got to realize that they want things from you too, but you also have to be willing to want to do these things. If that person isn't reciprocating the value you bring, it's a one sided relationship.
Well I have many reasons and basis to why the feat isn't just not underrated it's actually pretty stupid. Read the Manga because Raye wouldn't even continue investigating him after that day, and Light himself actually DID know that. So despite that, he did all this which led Naomi to him and pretty much almost got him exposed with just lucky break being that he met her by luck and heard she had info about Kira by luck. It was also by luck that he even was able to persuade her, too. Not only did it not help him, it did in fact confirm L that one of the people shadowed by the 12 agents IS Kira and even got it down to a few households one of which was Light Yagami's. I can give more arguments to you if you have discord as I have scans too
yes but light was purposefully trying to let L get close so he could kill him and take his place. Knowing there would be no way to convict him due to the Death Note being beyond human comprehension. Light could never truly become "God" of his new world if he didn't also get personal power over society, and even the UN listens to L so it worked out perfect, except when he trusted others.
I don't recall Light mentioning he knew Raye would stop following him. I'm sure either way Light would assume he would though. That being said, if he knew or not, Light's goal wasn't to avoid suspicion entirely, it was to get close to L, and killing the FBI agents was part of the steps he took to do this as the intention was dwindle L's resources and force people to mistrust him, which in the end Light accomplished this. Light meeting Naomi was lucky but her sharing info on Kira and Light tricking her into revealing her ID and killing her aren't necessarily the same thing as luck. If you wanted to, luck can be applied to everything, but what luck really is is chance or probability. The things Light did to get Naomi to reveal the information that she knew about Kira and eventually giving up her ID actually have decent chances of happening as Light also shared information about Kira, encouraging her to also share, and her revealing her ID at the end because Light offered her a solution to the one thing she wanted. It did actually help him in some ways but he absolutely had better ways of going about it that would've been less risky and would've prevented less suspicion while also getting closer to L. I'll consider making a discord sometime in the future, but for now do you think you could just site the page number and chapter?
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This plan Relied on the death note too much.And TBH but your points are valid.Manga had Slightly more details. Anyways Can you Rank them in planning: Lelouch,Light, Akiyama
Well nice analysis and Agreed with the points.Even though I would say this plan relied on using the death note capabilities such as Setting the time of death when killer was gonna enter the bus do all the Stuff
Of course the death note was involved, I'm just saying, Light also needed to time and control his interactions himself because those weren't written in the death note.
I think that you are wrong Light wrote everything about how this guy is gonna die in the death note so the only thing he has to plan is how much it is gonna take him to know the name of the FBI agent
That would still mean he'd have to time his conversation and interactions with people in order to make sure that the criminal still died at that specific time. Light would have to make sure he got the FBI agents ID within a certain amount of time in order to time when he drops the death note scrap so the criminal sees Ryuk.
@@clueanalysis2596 even without me proving all this wrong the whole plan is just so horrendous that it gave a huge disadvantage and made it much worse for Light anyway..
@@N-Ice_ Well, for here, why don't you just try to prove me wrong, since in another comment you're already explaining why you think the plan was horrible.
Aww man. It's been such a long time since I've seen a Clue Analysis video. I'm happy you're still making them. That being said, I think you're kinda stretching here. I mean, you're basically saying that Light perfectly anticipated the exact amount of time it would take for everyone involved to do anything, which I don't think is the case. Light's comment on the perfectly planned timing is likely just because he probably wrote the exact time the hijacker needs to die, because that would be all he needed to influence him into hijacking that very specific bus on that time and route for his plan to work. And he's just confirming to himself that the time correlates with what he wrote. I believe that's all he meant because being able to perfect anticipate the exact amount of time it would take for Raye and the hijacker to make their actions right down to the second would be... well, impossible really...
I'm going to try and make some more this year. I was very busy last year but I should have some more time this year. I could be stretching it. I doubt the creator thought of the implications of Light saying this line. "I mean, you're basically saying that Light perfectly anticipated the exact amount of time it would take for everyone involved to do anything" Yes, this is what I am saying. I think the fact he pointed this out does imply he anticipated the amount of time it would take to do all this, otherwise Light would've just written down something like "dies from a car accident after getting off the bus". The fact that he did specify a certain time means that Light predicted to some extent the length in which all this would take. Think about it, if a certain time is specified and anything went wrong so that the criminal couldn't be killed in traffic, he wouldn't have died that way. So Light would have to have anticipated most of this. We know he had control over the criminal but there was no certain way of getting the FBI agents ID, the indication of a specified time shows that Light had an idea of what would happen and how long it would take to time this whole event. It's a bit of a stretch realistically speaking and I doubt the creator was thinking about the implications of this, but the fact remains that if Light did specify a certain time of death it would mean he'd also have to control the outside variables not written in the death note otherwise there'd be no certain way to make sure the criminal died at exactly 11:45 on the dot.
@@clueanalysis2596 well, like I said, it could be that he specified the time because he needs to makes sure the hijacker gets on the same bus he's on, and since buses run on routes at particular times, he had to use the time of day to guide the hijacker onto the right one (although this means he'd have to assume the bus is running on time but that shouldn't make too much of a difference unless there's a huge traffic pile up, but in that case, the hijacker would just have a heart attack and he'd just need to come up with a new plan). After that, he could have just come up with a rough estimate for how long it would take for the events to unfold in between the bus's arrival to the hijacker's stop and his death. I think of like this: Light memorises the bus timetable and what time the bus would reach each of its stops, plus maybe the frequency of the buses that visit those stops, although that probably isn't as important. He'd then need to fit together the times between himself and his date and tailer getting on with the hijacker getting on at a later stop, and then coming up with a rough estimate for how long it would take for Raye to reveal his identity and then dropping the paper on the floor, initiating the hijacker's death. So, yeah, he'd need to write down the time of death for the hijacker based on an estimate for how long it would take for the ordeal to unfold within a reasonable time of the bus's arrival to the hijacker's death but, whilwould have guessed how long it might take but I didn't think he precisely predicted the timing of everything perfectly, just a rough estimate that allows plenty of time. Keep in mind, Light could theoretically cause the hijackers' death at any point by dropping the paper so he could come up with whatever time he wanted within reason. That's just how I see it, though.
@@l.pricetag.5207 Light did specify a certain time for the bus jacker to get on as well but that's reasonable. Light doesn't need to specify a certain time of death, just the cause and events leading up to it. Light specified a specific time because he was testing the death note in it's specifications, but because he specified a certain time for the criminal to die at it would he'd have also done all this " Light memorises the bus timetable and what time the bus would reach each of its stops, plus maybe the frequency of the buses that visit those stops, although that probably isn't as important. He'd then need to fit together the times between himself and his date and tailer getting on with the hijacker getting on at a later stop, and then coming up with a rough estimate for how long it would take for Raye to reveal his identity and then dropping the paper on the floor, initiating the hijacker's death" as you said yourself.
@clueanalysis2596 I think he would need to specify a time of death probably to make sure the hijacker doesn't die before he can get Raye's name. (I suppose because he can affectively initiate the time of death at any point he chooses by dropping the paper that he probably wouldn't need to, but maybe he was just being thorough. Imagine if the hijacker just collapsed and died from a heart attack because he took too long to drop the paper. Boy, he would've been in trouble then... so I think he probably would’ve had to specify in the notebook both the time of his arrival and death based on a rough estimate of how long it might take.
@ As you said with Light "he can affectively initiate the time of death at any point he chooses by dropping the paper that he probably wouldn't need to" so he wouldn't need to specify a time of death if the cause of death is specified to happen a certain way. Light already tested the death notes limitations to prepare for this point, so there's no reason he'd assume the bus jacker would just die if he took too long to drop the paper when Light knows he can kill people as long as it's before the time they were originally supposed to die at. But regardless of this, a time was specified, so the actions taken also had to be precise. "so I think he probably would’ve had to specify in the notebook both the time of his arrival and death based on a rough estimate of how long it might take" Precisely what I'm saying, Light estimated the actions taken as to time this situation to end at this specific time. In other words, Light had control over more than just the bus jacker, but the people he was conversing with as well.
It was a smart play, but I really don't like how Light learning to control people before they die felt more specific to this scene instead of the overall narrative. There had only been implications but with this scene it appears the Death Note can somewhat control people who's names are not written to make the death happen (The car that hit the bus jacker had to be somewhat controlled by the Death Note or fate to make this work). I wish they went deeper and Light used it more often as i believe the only rule was that the death can't lead to other deaths that weren't written (Which would also be interesting to explore, such as if a plane Pilots name was written would they not die if they are mid flight? due to the collateral of the passengers?).
I was going to say that was also weird, I mean what if there wasn't a car behind them, how would he have had die? I guess Light picked this bus route because he knew it was a busy road, that's the best explanation I can think of. As for the plane pilot scenario you used, because his death would lead to more than the intended, i.e. all the passengers names aren't written in the death note and therefore the death note doesn't think they're intended to die, the pilot would either die of a heart attack before the flight or after he landed the flight as to not kill the other passengers not written in the death note.
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Light inspires me to become more intelligent. And even to marry someone as smart as him. I somehow have the tendency to get stuck with dumb people and it's so unfulfilling.
While it’s admirable to be this smart, these people have a lot of shortcomings in relationships. Usually extremely intelligent people are arrogant, lack desire for committed relationships, have social skill issues and difficulties relating to the average person.
Not to mention, usually smart people will hang around birds of a feather and want someone or something that can challenge them intellectually, you being able to check that box is definitely a question.
It’s great that you’d like to marry someone smart but someone to this degree can be trouble for all sorts of reasons.
The anime’s depiction of what intelligence is somewhat exaggerated and then also characters are written to be extremely personable.
These sorta people are extremely far n few between irl, and truthfully someone that would resemble either Light or L and have their head on straight would be almost unprecedented.
Some people are very gifted as Light is, but for most ordinary people it's a matter of practice and proper studying. Most of us can have great potential if we apply ourselves. That being said, intelligence can be a curse without wisdom. It's one thing to know how, it's another thing to know why. Make sure that if you're doing something, that it's worth your time in the first place. It's most likely that you know you're choosing dumb people, you're just not realizing it as soon as you'd like to know. There are certain qualities that are more attractive to people at first glance and in today's society most people tend to pick based on that. Make sure you get to know the person first before getting in too deep. Stupid qualities can seem more attractive at first glance compared to intelligent qualities.
@@vis4violence I can agree with most of this actually, but funnily enough I remember reading a study some time ago that the lower the IQ of a person was, the more arrogant or more likely to be arrogant they were as they heavily overestimated their abilities and thought they were smarter than they actually were. Smarter people do actually have more trouble getting into relationships for a couple of reasons, some which you mentioned. They tend to be more cautious and more picky about who they choose, which can be both a good and bad thing depending on the qualities they're looking for, but they also tend to be more awkward and have trouble interacting as you said and that's usually because there are less smart people than their are dumb ones.
@@clueanalysis2596 ty for the words! I agree with you too and I have seen that study too! It’s honestly really interesting because you can definitely find people at both sides of the spectrum.
Those who are arrogant and smart and those who THINK they hold a candle but fall short.
Unfortunately you are absolutely correct on the above comment about how society usually chooses the more attractive person to solve the relationship equation, not realizing that their is something that lies deeper in said person. (In lights case a serial/mass murderer)
Look at people like Epstein. Smart as all get out, completely outsmarted the owner or ceo or wtv of Victoria’s Secret and manipulated him out of his money. While in financial kahoots with Harvard from the money and position he was in. What did he do with his smarts? Well… uhh.. fill in the blanks.
I really like your point on how you definitely need to get to know a person before assuming their qualities as well and really ties in well with my previous point of questioning whether or not OP would even be a good candidate for the person they admire.
@ It's a matter of thinking logically over being emotional. Yes, you want to feel love for a person, but love isn't enough to qualify being in a relationship with this person. You also have to have respect and reasonable boundaries. A balanced relationship where both partners do things not because the other wants them to but because they want to do it for them. If one side is just all about getting and not giving, it's not going to work. Yes, you can want certain things from your partner, but you also got to realize that they want things from you too, but you also have to be willing to want to do these things. If that person isn't reciprocating the value you bring, it's a one sided relationship.
Well I have many reasons and basis to why the feat isn't just not underrated it's actually pretty stupid. Read the Manga because Raye wouldn't even continue investigating him after that day, and Light himself actually DID know that. So despite that, he did all this which led Naomi to him and pretty much almost got him exposed with just lucky break being that he met her by luck and heard she had info about Kira by luck. It was also by luck that he even was able to persuade her, too.
Not only did it not help him, it did in fact confirm L that one of the people shadowed by the 12 agents IS Kira and even got it down to a few households one of which was Light Yagami's. I can give more arguments to you if you have discord as I have scans too
yes but light was purposefully trying to let L get close so he could kill him and take his place. Knowing there would be no way to convict him due to the Death Note being beyond human comprehension. Light could never truly become "God" of his new world if he didn't also get personal power over society, and even the UN listens to L so it worked out perfect, except when he trusted others.
I don't recall Light mentioning he knew Raye would stop following him. I'm sure either way Light would assume he would though. That being said, if he knew or not, Light's goal wasn't to avoid suspicion entirely, it was to get close to L, and killing the FBI agents was part of the steps he took to do this as the intention was dwindle L's resources and force people to mistrust him, which in the end Light accomplished this. Light meeting Naomi was lucky but her sharing info on Kira and Light tricking her into revealing her ID and killing her aren't necessarily the same thing as luck. If you wanted to, luck can be applied to everything, but what luck really is is chance or probability. The things Light did to get Naomi to reveal the information that she knew about Kira and eventually giving up her ID actually have decent chances of happening as Light also shared information about Kira, encouraging her to also share, and her revealing her ID at the end because Light offered her a solution to the one thing she wanted.
It did actually help him in some ways but he absolutely had better ways of going about it that would've been less risky and would've prevented less suspicion while also getting closer to L.
I'll consider making a discord sometime in the future, but for now do you think you could just site the page number and chapter?
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This plan Relied on the death note too much.And TBH but your points are valid.Manga had Slightly more details.
Anyways Can you Rank them in planning:
Lelouch,Light, Akiyama
Bruh Lelouch and Light wins against Akiyama in planning
@@CrypticBlazekeeper69Agreed.But want to know his opinion
Well nice analysis and Agreed with the points.Even though I would say this plan relied on using the death note capabilities such as Setting the time of death when killer was gonna enter the bus do all the Stuff
Of course the death note was involved, I'm just saying, Light also needed to time and control his interactions himself because those weren't written in the death note.
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I think that you are wrong
Light wrote everything about how this guy is gonna die in the death note so the only thing he has to plan is how much it is gonna take him to know the name of the FBI agent
That would still mean he'd have to time his conversation and interactions with people in order to make sure that the criminal still died at that specific time. Light would have to make sure he got the FBI agents ID within a certain amount of time in order to time when he drops the death note scrap so the criminal sees Ryuk.
@@clueanalysis2596 even without me proving all this wrong the whole plan is just so horrendous that it gave a huge disadvantage and made it much worse for Light anyway..
@@N-Ice_ Well, for here, why don't you just try to prove me wrong, since in another comment you're already explaining why you think the plan was horrible.
Aww man. It's been such a long time since I've seen a Clue Analysis video. I'm happy you're still making them.
That being said, I think you're kinda stretching here. I mean, you're basically saying that Light perfectly anticipated the exact amount of time it would take for everyone involved to do anything, which I don't think is the case. Light's comment on the perfectly planned timing is likely just because he probably wrote the exact time the hijacker needs to die, because that would be all he needed to influence him into hijacking that very specific bus on that time and route for his plan to work. And he's just confirming to himself that the time correlates with what he wrote. I believe that's all he meant because being able to perfect anticipate the exact amount of time it would take for Raye and the hijacker to make their actions right down to the second would be... well, impossible really...
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I could be stretching it. I doubt the creator thought of the implications of Light saying this line. "I mean, you're basically saying that Light perfectly anticipated the exact amount of time it would take for everyone involved to do anything" Yes, this is what I am saying. I think the fact he pointed this out does imply he anticipated the amount of time it would take to do all this, otherwise Light would've just written down something like "dies from a car accident after getting off the bus". The fact that he did specify a certain time means that Light predicted to some extent the length in which all this would take. Think about it, if a certain time is specified and anything went wrong so that the criminal couldn't be killed in traffic, he wouldn't have died that way. So Light would have to have anticipated most of this. We know he had control over the criminal but there was no certain way of getting the FBI agents ID, the indication of a specified time shows that Light had an idea of what would happen and how long it would take to time this whole event.
It's a bit of a stretch realistically speaking and I doubt the creator was thinking about the implications of this, but the fact remains that if Light did specify a certain time of death it would mean he'd also have to control the outside variables not written in the death note otherwise there'd be no certain way to make sure the criminal died at exactly 11:45 on the dot.
@@clueanalysis2596 well, like I said, it could be that he specified the time because he needs to makes sure the hijacker gets on the same bus he's on, and since buses run on routes at particular times, he had to use the time of day to guide the hijacker onto the right one (although this means he'd have to assume the bus is running on time but that shouldn't make too much of a difference unless there's a huge traffic pile up, but in that case, the hijacker would just have a heart attack and he'd just need to come up with a new plan). After that, he could have just come up with a rough estimate for how long it would take for the events to unfold in between the bus's arrival to the hijacker's stop and his death.
I think of like this: Light memorises the bus timetable and what time the bus would reach each of its stops, plus maybe the frequency of the buses that visit those stops, although that probably isn't as important. He'd then need to fit together the times between himself and his date and tailer getting on with the hijacker getting on at a later stop, and then coming up with a rough estimate for how long it would take for Raye to reveal his identity and then dropping the paper on the floor, initiating the hijacker's death. So, yeah, he'd need to write down the time of death for the hijacker based on an estimate for how long it would take for the ordeal to unfold within a reasonable time of the bus's arrival to the hijacker's death but, whilwould have guessed how long it might take but I didn't think he precisely predicted the timing of everything perfectly, just a rough estimate that allows plenty of time. Keep in mind, Light could theoretically cause the hijackers' death at any point by dropping the paper so he could come up with whatever time he wanted within reason. That's just how I see it, though.
@@l.pricetag.5207 Light did specify a certain time for the bus jacker to get on as well but that's reasonable. Light doesn't need to specify a certain time of death, just the cause and events leading up to it. Light specified a specific time because he was testing the death note in it's specifications, but because he specified a certain time for the criminal to die at it would he'd have also done all this " Light memorises the bus timetable and what time the bus would reach each of its stops, plus maybe the frequency of the buses that visit those stops, although that probably isn't as important. He'd then need to fit together the times between himself and his date and tailer getting on with the hijacker getting on at a later stop, and then coming up with a rough estimate for how long it would take for Raye to reveal his identity and then dropping the paper on the floor, initiating the hijacker's death" as you said yourself.
@clueanalysis2596 I think he would need to specify a time of death probably to make sure the hijacker doesn't die before he can get Raye's name. (I suppose because he can affectively initiate the time of death at any point he chooses by dropping the paper that he probably wouldn't need to, but maybe he was just being thorough. Imagine if the hijacker just collapsed and died from a heart attack because he took too long to drop the paper. Boy, he would've been in trouble then... so I think he probably would’ve had to specify in the notebook both the time of his arrival and death based on a rough estimate of how long it might take.
@ As you said with Light "he can affectively initiate the time of death at any point he chooses by dropping the paper that he probably wouldn't need to" so he wouldn't need to specify a time of death if the cause of death is specified to happen a certain way. Light already tested the death notes limitations to prepare for this point, so there's no reason he'd assume the bus jacker would just die if he took too long to drop the paper when Light knows he can kill people as long as it's before the time they were originally supposed to die at. But regardless of this, a time was specified, so the actions taken also had to be precise. "so I think he probably would’ve had to specify in the notebook both the time of his arrival and death based on a rough estimate of how long it might take" Precisely what I'm saying, Light estimated the actions taken as to time this situation to end at this specific time. In other words, Light had control over more than just the bus jacker, but the people he was conversing with as well.
It was a smart play, but I really don't like how Light learning to control people before they die felt more specific to this scene instead of the overall narrative. There had only been implications but with this scene it appears the Death Note can somewhat control people who's names are not written to make the death happen (The car that hit the bus jacker had to be somewhat controlled by the Death Note or fate to make this work). I wish they went deeper and Light used it more often as i believe the only rule was that the death can't lead to other deaths that weren't written (Which would also be interesting to explore, such as if a plane Pilots name was written would they not die if they are mid flight? due to the collateral of the passengers?).
I was going to say that was also weird, I mean what if there wasn't a car behind them, how would he have had die? I guess Light picked this bus route because he knew it was a busy road, that's the best explanation I can think of.
As for the plane pilot scenario you used, because his death would lead to more than the intended, i.e. all the passengers names aren't written in the death note and therefore the death note doesn't think they're intended to die, the pilot would either die of a heart attack before the flight or after he landed the flight as to not kill the other passengers not written in the death note.
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