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But bars on top of your roof that way you can shoot through it to kill the vultures (birds) like lay the bars downward on top of the roof. I do like the base tho
@@branchcore Oh my god seriously. I was giving him a suggestion bc he was saying that it was kind of hard to fight the birds from the roof. I didn't say I didn't like his builds I was giving a different way to fight the birds. Get over yourself and take in what people are trying to say in a positive way and not in a negative way.
You have quickly become a favorite of mine. Not many take the time to interact with their community as you do. And your videos are family friendly so I can watch when kids are around. Keep up the awesome work.
This base design is so nice and simple. I got 500 stone building blocks as a Tier 2 Quest reward and was able to build this in about 15 mins right before horde night. I did, however, use a pole as the walkway the zombies use to try and avoid pileups.
Pole works well, I actively do want a bit of piling up on this base though for the melee glancing blows mechanic, basically i can stab or swing into a crowd of a few zombies and damage them all. Great for clubs and sledges for knockdown, and nice for knives for bleeding. If I was going to use my bow on horde night or if I was going to do a penetrator sniper build, I would want that thinned horde so I can keep them all single file as those weapons have no real spread so it's either hit 1, or in the case of the penetrator sniper build hit 5 with 1 bullet but they have to be single file.
Just made it past my first horde night with vastly fewer weapons than I should have had, due to much failure questing. Still breezed through it without any risk at all. Excellent design, thank you!
Just started my first playthrough of warrior as i'm still newish to 7 days to die. This base will definitely help my ass on the first few weeks. Alpha 20 seems amazing so far good shit Prebuilt
Just a couple of ideas for this base. Using shapes, if you go into Construction > Security Grate Centered you can use it to replace the blocks you used for the catwalk. These blocks still have full strength, but are much thinner, making zombies fall off easier, and preventing them from stacking during hordes more than one at a time. As for those side stairs, if you look under Decor > Trellis (either square or diagonal, as long as it's climbable) you can put these on the sides of the staircase (not the actual stairs, just the solid blocks). Zombies will climb these rather than hitting the blocks, reducing or completely eliminating damage to those blocks in case of pathing issues.
This hoard base is stoopid awesome! Rolling up on my 7th blood moon with the following upgrades: Entire structure is now concrete Rear platform is enclosed with a ladder and hatch leading to the roof Campfire, storage container and generator bank inside enclosed platform Blade traps near ground on either side and the front of main pillar Blade traps on either side of catwalk just before entrance Blade trap above entrance to keep them from stacking Hella mines behind the main pillar with a pit full of iron spikes directly under the platform And a two deep bed of iron spikes on either side of the catwalk leading up to the blade traps as they tend to catch loot bags giving me an opportunity to run out and grab a few on occasion. Only concern with the upcoming Blood Moon is the fact that a couple of my blade traps were damaged to under 500 HP by the end of the last BM. But structurally, this baby's sound! Thanks so much!
I have one suggestion for the ceiling portion of the base. Put the square blocks on either end like you did but, instead of the square blocks in the middle use bars. It's an easy way to get at vultures if any show up.
Been playing since A15. Never built a horde base, just found and small building made of concrete and worked the horde from the roof in different ways. This looks interesting and super easy, so I will try it out. Thanks
I watched your 7 tips video and made this base two days ago, I made the one with iron bars on the catwalk and just finished day 14 horde without a scratch! I'll upgrade it like in the video and it should be way better! Thanks my buddy
I like the step by step instruction without going god mode or creative mode. Many thanks. Plus I subscribed mainly because of the accent mixed with the friendly tone much like Cap00.
not a bad base. I think i'll build one similar tonight. only thing i'd change is i'd put down "poles" to make the top narrower and let them fall down easier....other than that. pretty good.
I suggest using bars, instead of full blocks, for the roof. That way, if you get any vultures, you can shoot them. Also, since this is a20, the zombies will crawl over the hatches. You need to have something to block them. I use door frame tops.
I know that I'm super late, but I discovered something with this build. You can make it another tile wider, maybe even 3, for little extra cost. Double the lanes and maybe make them a tad longer, and then into the later game just add electric fences. Later game you can just upgrade it to as much steel as possible and you can last a long long time with such a simple build. It doesn't break pathing, so horde nights won't get boring. Great xp grinder every 7 days in game.
Two tips, On the front, just above the door, if you put upside down ramps, they can't stack up. And if you leave the top as bars, you can shoot any vultures. That keeps you in your hallway.
a few things: 1. make the roof bars, then you can shoot vultures 2. I made something similar to this. The stairs were bigger, had a landing and were a full stair pyramid, no issues with zombies getting stuck 3. Instead of a corridor, 3x3 room with bars on the front. Gives you room to throw down a dart trap to shoot right down the bridge, and put a junkie on the side. Leave out the middle bar and you can melee through it while stepping left or right to shoot. You can double up the bars for extra protection 4. the whole key to these kinds of bases is the raised bridge so that zombies can't pile up and attack your front blocks all at once. People who try to fight through a hatch on the ground leave 3 blocks wide in front of the door (the ground) and that allows much faster damage on your defenses. 5. Also electrical fences. Electrical fences across the bridge can make this base last a long long time. You can just sit there popping head shots while they jam up there.
I made a base similar to this but with a longer walkway for the zombies and a pit with metal spike traps and ramps for them to slowly make their way out of the pits. I also put two side platforms on the walkway with hammer guns so that the zombies get knocked into the pit. There is some maintenance though - sometimes have to fill in holes made by exploding zombies, replace the spike traps, etc.
i make the exact same horde base, with the only change i would make is that the path once the zombies get up those stairs, i would build a small bridge block so that when the zombies run towards me, 1 hit will ragdoll them over the edge
you can't anymore... vultures in blood moons flies faster then you and slow you down poking on you; maybe with the 4x4 you can do it. I did the same with bycicle and stamina regen perks and stuff tho in A18.
@@TheIceThorn dang really? I played this on a multiplayer server a few years ago. Maybe it’s been updated since then but that sucks xD there goes my escape route I’ve been planning on using haha
@@dream__soda7900 yeah, in A18 it worked fine in SP too. In MP, depending on how many players you may not need to run. Too many players and the zombies stands still...
I've built that base as well now, though I prefer centered half blocks for the catwalk, so zombies slip up easier (though I guess it's more for looks than effect, really). Also, Maybe use plates or sheets or what they're called at the edges of your stairs, just to smooth out the bump you have from digging plus placing a block. Works wonders as well when you have a door into your base that you like to drive through with vehicles, by the way.
I don't watch many videos on this game, but, in my experience if you spawn in a small town, there is a small power station, it is all concrete with a broken wall, and a small basement. IF, you can buy 250 concrete and get something like 1k cobble. u knock down the 500 health concrete blocks in the hole in the wall, the door and some of the interior crap, u'll figure it out when you place your internal bocks. I basically layer the internal walls with wood or cobble bars, i fill the hole with 1 layer of concrete bars. I personally use some horizontal bars in the middle so i can eventually repair when i have 2 layers thick. so u have concrete external walls, filled with 1 layer of coble all around except the horizontal., so the zombies rush that horizontal bar. I personally try to buy pipe bombs, u can make it easily through night 7 in this. and with some more concrete it's very cheap to get a 3 deep concrete wall, with 2 deep concrete bars where the zombies attack. i just hurl pipe bombs and can very easily kill all the zombies on a horde night for many weeks. if I move to a bigger city i just build a similar base with concrete and steel, and have made it to night 70 without dying on the hardest setting with i think 24 zombie waves or something. Sadly that building isn't available in big towns or medium towns from my experience. i hope that made some sort of sense lol
Just building and upgrading a basic base from wood frames to cobblestone with a grated fence is enough to max out the engineering perk to craft steel without finding any schematics. FYI, I mean a sheltered fighting area with an underground section with plenty of space to put down crafting stations and storage. Building is great for XP gain.
Re destroy area mechanic. I found that giving them something other than your base to destroy, it this case pillars of two blocks on top of each other set around the fall zone can work. The zoms attack those and not your base, they are cheaper than iron and stronger than wood. But don't hurt the zoms of course.
i had problems with this base design. there were to many zombies on stairs so others werent able to get up here with stairs so they were breaking blocks btw u can use bars on the celling to shot birds
I made that on top of an existing bridge. Blocked the other approaches and left just the direct path. Wood spikes on outer walls and it got me through night 21 on default settings - so far.
It's better in A20 to make the foundations of this kind of base with back to back bars shape frames. The zombies will bash at the blocks more than the bars.
Good design. I tend to try and find an already existing building 3 or more stories tall. Do some slight mods to it and hope for the best for a few in game weeks. As I'm staying there I can slowly be building the actual base I'm wanting to use.
Some tips for building this base 1) Using centered security grates (from the construction tab of the shape helper) can help avoid zombie pileups and usually only have you dealing with one or two at a time. 2) Security grates can be used for the roof in the corridor base can be used to counter vulures. (You probably knew this but other people might want to try this)
Yep and yep, one thing I don't know is if the security grates wreck the zombie AI in the same way that bars used to, do they path through the corridor alright?
@IzPrebuilt they usually treat centered ones as a normal block for the catwalk but I have no idea about the plate ones. I kinda just took the idea from watching Guns, Nerds, and Steel. May be able to use one of the other options for vultures.
@@stillton1 I'll test it out next time I build this base, although I do stand by the old, walk out the back door and shoot the vulture trick, it has not failed me yet lmaooo
Very nice, very well instructed. Thank you very kindly. My advice is, ues three ROUND pillars to support the upper part of the corridor. Why? Because zombies will go around a round pillar. Round pillars are not easy for zombies the hit straight forward. Zombies tend to go around a pillar especially when they are in full run mode on a blood moon.
This is a variation on the design I use. You can cut some of the costs and make 100% of the blocks reachable to upgrade if you do some things slightly differently (I have held vrs. a nearly GS 150 horde w/ this design without issue; without doing any repairing during the fight, which can improve it's longevity by a lot). To start, off with, it's fine to have the foundation of the corridor only 1 block wide as long as you're at least 4 blocks off the ground (from experience, being only 3 will lead to some zombies wanting to beat their way to the block your standing on instead of coming up the stairs to the kill zone). You can put the stairs leading right to the corridor, no reason to have a walkway they can fall off of (and possibly enter into destroy mode from that). Make the stairway 3 blocks wide (and the middle part of the foundation of said stairway hollow, no blocks, because it doesn't need to be filled in and you cannot reach the interior to upgrade it later; still have stairs flush with the others in the middle though). The set of stairs that will set against the corridor entrance should have corner stairs for the sides to encourage the zombies to funnel into the corridor. Do not put a hatch in the first block of the corridor (if you do and have it open towards the entrance, zombies can attack it from the side where you can't easily shoot them plus this negates the intended funneling effect of the design). Start at 1 block past the entrance block. You can make this corridor up to 30 hatches deep without pathing issues for the zombies (trying to for 40+ may lead to it not working, better if you need more than 30 to make an identical copy next to the first 1, but facing the opposite way, so you can bail and just run into the 2nd one when the first one runs out of hatches; you can obviously make more than 2 of these if for some reason you need more than 60 hatches to last the night just continue inverting which side the entrance is so as you bail from one you can enter the next 1 quickly; I've never needed more than 30 hatches myself, and those were still iron!). Lastly, for the back of the design, extend the foundation 1 block past the corridor end, and have the back of the corridor open (this is how you can bail in the event that you run out of hatches), I extend the top level of the foundation (which you stand on while using this base) 2 blocks out instead of 1 to give more room so you can actually use the last hatch and be just out of reach of the zombies (this space is also helpful when you need to clear the birds). The corridor should be walled in like shown, except the ceiling only need to be 1-block thick (I've never had the birds manage to breach my ceiling, even when I've left a dozen of them attacking it while dealing with all of the zombies first). I don't recommend trying to use bars instead for the ceiling because while this would allow you to shoot at the birds without going to the back of the base (or out the front if it's safe), this would also allow radiated birds to spitball you 24/7...not a fun time. I've never had them try to dig until this base either, so digging out the topsoil to start the foundation is unneeded.
For the first kill box i would suggest instead of having multiple hatch just use 2 one like you used and the other are reversed and put a 1 or 2 block hole there so when they break the second hatch which will cover the hole when we turn it offtbey just fall into the hole buying more time, as it take time for them to one by one jump over if they can
If you can get the zombies "out" of the destroy area mechanic via spike/trap damage, i reckon a rotating blade trap at the bottom of the bridge will do the same aswell? EDIT: Oh nvm, that's why the walkway/bridge has been extended to 2 more blocks, to accommodate a blade trap, answered my own question. Upon further testing of this base with some of my little own tweaks (Extended the corridor to 4 more iron hatch's, And the entire base has been upgraded from the ground up to concrete) and was able to survive the day 21 horde no problem, if you see a cop, crouch and stay out of sight behind the hatch's to avoid his vomit's. Interestingly some of the zombies go immediately into destroy area mode when they approach from the back of the base toward the stairs, the zombies will take a whack at the corridor main structure then proceed to walk to the stairs. i have placed a single file line of spikes around the rear of the base to combat some of the destroy area issue, the concrete was more than adequate for the job so if the zombies got through the spikes near the rear of the base, it was no problem. This base testing was done on my own SMP with Scavenger difficulty. AI block damage at 50%, Zombies per horde was set at the standard 8 per wave. I will try vault hatch's with forged steel upgrades to the main structure of the base to see how the base will fare with the added upgrades.
I like this design its a good basis on which you can expand. Thing is though (and keep in mind I'm a novice player in 7days), I opted to built a simple 5x5 bunker base in the ground floor reception area of DiShong Tower with an iron hatch on the roof and 1 layer of wooden spikes on the walls, recently upgraded to concrete.... I'm now approaching Day 70 solo with normal settings on A20 plus I get the benefit of loot stage bonus being in the wasteland biome and tier5 poi. So I get why you'd want to make a more elaborate or interesting base for gameplay reasons, but if you just want a cheap base that will take you at least 10 horde nights in I'm not seeing a better cheaper option in all honesty.
To make your base a bit more user-friendly, I recommend making the ceiling just wood/cobble bars so you can shoot the vultures through them instead of having to leave the front unmanned while you deal with the birds.
@@trinityghoul549 The bars stop most of it, but if you do end up standing in some, it doesn't do a whole lot of damage. You won't be (or shouldn't be) getting hit by zombied while manning the front, so the birds should be your only source of incoming damage. I don't recall seeing them for at least the first horde or two, so you should be okay. It may be worth checking your vendors to find a shotgun/smg turret in the first week, as that makes the vultures trivial to deal with 👍
I'm really appreciating your content, and look forward to more. A few questions... You did a similar design on your beginner's guide. I'm curious why you went with the full block bridge on this, instead of the half, and replaced the iron bars with hatches. I actually never used the bars myself, a hatch had worked just fine for me, and was nice to be able to enter from that side. Also, you used full stairs all the way up. I've seen some folks use single blocks that they have to jump up, which slows things down a little so I can grab a breather. Thoughts there?
I use a full block bridge on this because I am now more aware of that "destroy area mechanic" so I actually want a bit less falling down in this early stage where all I have to stop the damage is the spike. I would also kind of prefer a little bit of piling up at the doorway so I can do some glancing damage with my knives, in the beginner's guide I was using a bow so I was leaning towards trying to thin out zombies to a single line. I use stairs because you actively want the zombies to get up the stairs faster and into your melee range but you need to do it such a way that there is a steady flowing stream rather than big clumps, the last thing I want is bunching up on the stairs, and then half the zombies get enraged and start smacking the stairs, and then the stairs fail and then they start just beating the walls and foundations because they can't reach me and destroy the whole base. Note: that last scenario probably won't happen, but it's likely enough and easy enough to avoid that I just work around it automatically. You need to add distance (catwalk) to slow it down, you need to have enough room for the zombies to flow but not so much that they can swarm (the 1 wide nature of the catwalk) and you need to make sure that the zombies can get back to the top as easily as possible (the very easily accessed stairs) and you need to keep killing or knocking over the zombies. It's like a well-oiled machine you don't want clots making stuff get backed up because then things start to break.
@@IzPrebuilt Thanks for the detailed reply! I'm a pretty new player, so always helps to understand mechanics I'm less aware of. I tried your Fort build, which was impressive, and am dabbling with an int/agi build just for something different. But this base seems solid for just about anything in the first many weeks.
@@DraconisNocturne If you ever have any questions about this game, Prebuilt is the man to ask. He is a walking encyclopedia of the game and, despite complaining on stream of his viewers ;) is a really nice guy that will go out of his way to give you detailed info like he did. The man is obsessed with the color red though. My goal is to get some blue in there somewhere lol
Could someone explain the vault door mechanic he was talking about at the end where they do or don’t attack the vault door? I’m pretty new to the game still. This guide was awesome I’m just confused on that part!
Pretty much the basic bones of most of my bases... I like to add a horizontally placed door in front of my fighting area so I can dump the zombies if I need a minute to heal, repair and reload. I like INT builds so I normally have a robotic sledge by day 14. This style of base will work for as long as you want to upgrade building materials and add traps and turrets. Honestly when I see people having bad horde nights online, its never because they stuck to a basic , simple design like this.
I’m actually more interested in seeing what your next space design will be for later in the game you can pretty much build literally anything in the beginning of the game and it be completely fine for like four weeks
Is there any way to get corner stairs on Xbox? I can’t hold R to get all of the options, and rotating the block with the triggers doesn’t get the same effect for the corner stairs.
I built something similar I had them walk up the stairs then I put a turn into it so a sledgehammer would hit the opposite side of the demo button along with a couple blocks on the main ramp leading to my shooting area I used it from my first horde night till that character had full kit lvl 6 gear basically a L shape
but HOW do you pull out the ladder once the zombies pile up and the top one starts climbing it? There are so many zombies running around on the ground you can't just easily hop off your base to land on the ground, turn around, remove the ladder, then jump back up.
It's if you have a exploder go off near it it won't keep it from getting damaged but the cushion from the dirt should keep it from completely collapsing after one
Also been my favourite early game base with a usually just upgraded and larger design for the later game. I'm curious if you anyone knowledgeable on the matter, can zombies spawn on player placed blocks. Trying to design a larger base and curious. I've heard that they can't somewhere in the ether but can't seem to confirm it.
Nice base and video. I always use this kind of design early game. But why do you need to craft both wooden and iron hatches, then place and upgrade the wooden hatches to iron, when you could directly place the iron hatches first? Similarly, why not craft cobblestone blocks and place those directly instead of placing wooden blocks and upgrading them, which uses extra wood?
If you're in the horde base itself no but the bigger concern would be the structure integrity you'd need some more pillars planted so it doesn't collapse
So, I was just about to hop on my game, horde night imminent, when I watched this and realized my horde base could be a LOT better, and learned why to upgrade blocks instead of crafting cobblestone blocks. Long story short, I'm going to fire up a new world lol. Curious about using iron bars in the roof to handle vultures?
Iron bars used to break zombie AI so using them on the roof of bases like this was considered premium grade parisian cheese (meaning I couldn't make a video about them lmao) because zombies would stand still after the first layer of hatches, However I have no idea if this strategy works anymore, or if the new zombie ducking makes them do weird things under bars, but in theory yes, bars or similar blocks will give you access to the sky and the ability to shoot vultures.
@@madmommy On one of my playthroughs in alpha 20, I used bars on the roof of a similar base design and everything went well. I just had an expanded corridor base basically with room inside to walk around and put up electric fence posts on either side of the walkway and a junkie at the side. Works wonders.
Yah, so they ate through the ceiling and crept over the trapdoors. I had to abandon the base after maybe an hour and a half (in-game time). Does the design not support Insane difficulty, could that be it?
6:47 - "You'll also need about 4 iron hatches as well" I didn't catch where you actually used any iron hatches. Did I miss that part (I thought you just upgraded the 4 wooden ones with materials), or can I ignore that part? Edit: I'm new, I didn't realize that iron hatches were used to upgrade wooden hatches.
Wooden doors and wooden hatches both require their iron counterparts as a higher upgrade, and iron doors and iron hatches require their vault counterparts afterwards
@@g3synth205 No problem! This game is difficult to learn because it's not well documented, but youtubers such as Saven's World, Guns Nerds and Steel, and IzPrebuilt are all very reliable sources of information
This type of horde base will last into the late game, when it is properly upgraded. The basic simplicity of it is why it is considered a classic. A very simple way to deal with birds, is to use bars instead of blocks for the center portion of the roof, you can then shoot them. All the best. Cheers.
Really good video! I'm new to this game and looked at a few tutorials and I see alot of people use metal bars. Is there a reason not to use them or is it just preference?
You built it incorrectly then because I've tested this base dozens of times and I used in ep 7 and it went fine, and i'm about to use it again in ep 14 and again it went fine.
@@IzPrebuilt only difference is I may have built mine one block higher( have to go back and check, but not sure if that makes a difference) realized afterward you’re not on console , maybe the AI is different
@@kevinsaun6362 hey I’m on console too and I had the same issue u had …I really wanted then to come toward me like in this vid but they just went to my corridor instead
Wait a sec, about a third of the way into the video and I just realized why not place a blade trap also in front of the stairs so they wouldn’t be able to over climb each other? Might work 😅
Could you not just simply change the middle row of roof blocks to bars and have a simple cobblestone 'skylight' that you can shoot through for vultures?
How do you about the same exact building funny enough but instead of just doing the blocks from the ramp to the hallway I use these half spheres and I use them because sometimes the zombies have slip off of it so it slows them down a little bit and instead of building stairs all the way up I just put stairs in the bottom and then the last three blocks I just leave them as blocks so they have to jump up which slows them down even more in the gap in between the ramp in your hallway I haven’t six long and this is because if I ever get a generator or blade traps or I mean both of them I can put blade traps down there so if they slip off the blade traps kill them can’t even put a whole bunch of spike traps down there if you really wanted to but that’s a lot of XP it’s up to you
Sorry about the crunchy audio, teething issues with the new mic.
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The audio is ok, Very nice and entertaining tutorial. Keep up the good work!
I loved this!
But bars on top of your roof that way you can shoot through it to kill the vultures (birds) like lay the bars downward on top of the roof. I do like the base tho
@@mortal1501 you do it your way. This is his way, if ya dont like it sucks for you!
@@branchcore Oh my god seriously. I was giving him a suggestion bc he was saying that it was kind of hard to fight the birds from the roof. I didn't say I didn't like his builds I was giving a different way to fight the birds. Get over yourself and take in what people are trying to say in a positive way and not in a negative way.
You have quickly become a favorite of mine. Not many take the time to interact with their community as you do. And your videos are family friendly so I can watch when kids are around. Keep up the awesome work.
This base design is so nice and simple. I got 500 stone building blocks as a Tier 2 Quest reward and was able to build this in about 15 mins right before horde night. I did, however, use a pole as the walkway the zombies use to try and avoid pileups.
Pole works well, I actively do want a bit of piling up on this base though for the melee glancing blows mechanic, basically i can stab or swing into a crowd of a few zombies and damage them all. Great for clubs and sledges for knockdown, and nice for knives for bleeding.
If I was going to use my bow on horde night or if I was going to do a penetrator sniper build, I would want that thinned horde so I can keep them all single file as those weapons have no real spread so it's either hit 1, or in the case of the penetrator sniper build hit 5 with 1 bullet but they have to be single file.
Just made it past my first horde night with vastly fewer weapons than I should have had, due to much failure questing. Still breezed through it without any risk at all. Excellent design, thank you!
Just started my first playthrough of warrior as i'm still newish to 7 days to die. This base will definitely help my ass on the first few weeks. Alpha 20 seems amazing so far good shit Prebuilt
I use this design 100% of the time for the first horde base :)
Just a couple of ideas for this base. Using shapes, if you go into Construction > Security Grate Centered you can use it to replace the blocks you used for the catwalk. These blocks still have full strength, but are much thinner, making zombies fall off easier, and preventing them from stacking during hordes more than one at a time.
As for those side stairs, if you look under Decor > Trellis (either square or diagonal, as long as it's climbable) you can put these on the sides of the staircase (not the actual stairs, just the solid blocks). Zombies will climb these rather than hitting the blocks, reducing or completely eliminating damage to those blocks in case of pathing issues.
This hoard base is stoopid awesome!
Rolling up on my 7th blood moon with the following upgrades:
Entire structure is now concrete
Rear platform is enclosed with a ladder and hatch leading to the roof
Campfire, storage container and generator bank inside enclosed platform
Blade traps near ground on either side and the front of main pillar
Blade traps on either side of catwalk just before entrance
Blade trap above entrance to keep them from stacking
Hella mines behind the main pillar with a pit full of iron spikes directly under the platform
And a two deep bed of iron spikes on either side of the catwalk leading up to the blade traps as they tend to catch loot bags giving me an opportunity to run out and grab a few on occasion.
Only concern with the upcoming Blood Moon is the fact that a couple of my blade traps were damaged to under 500 HP by the end of the last BM. But structurally, this baby's sound!
Thanks so much!
I have one suggestion for the ceiling portion of the base. Put the square blocks on either end like you did but, instead of the square blocks in the middle use bars. It's an easy way to get at vultures if any show up.
My first ever horde in about 90 minutes. I'm going to use this design. Thanks for the vid.
Good luck man, how did it go?
@@alank3174 worked like a charm. I then started playing ark again and have only managed to get as far as day 12.
@@gogzy606 thanks for the update man!
I just used this designed. It worked like a charm, with a sledge and shotgun.
Been playing since A15. Never built a horde base, just found and small building made of concrete and worked the horde from the roof in different ways.
This looks interesting and super easy, so I will try it out. Thanks
I watched your 7 tips video and made this base two days ago, I made the one with iron bars on the catwalk and just finished day 14 horde without a scratch! I'll upgrade it like in the video and it should be way better! Thanks my buddy
Effective base which I use regularly. I add a hole in the ceiling which I cover with iron bars so I can shoot the vultures when I’m inside.
I absolutely love this horde base design! used it before and I 100% agree easy and awesome!
Just made this masterpiece !! Works perfect and its great for some extra XP in the earlie game. Good Video great job!
"I cannot count to 5, you heard it here first." That made me blow coffee out my nose. Thanks man, lmao
I like the step by step instruction without going god mode or creative mode.
Many thanks.
Plus I subscribed mainly because of the accent mixed with the friendly tone much like Cap00.
not a bad base. I think i'll build one similar tonight. only thing i'd change is i'd put down "poles" to make the top narrower and let them fall down easier....other than that. pretty good.
I suggest using bars, instead of full blocks, for the roof. That way, if you get any vultures, you can shoot them.
Also, since this is a20, the zombies will crawl over the hatches. You need to have something to block them. I use door frame tops.
I know that I'm super late, but I discovered something with this build. You can make it another tile wider, maybe even 3, for little extra cost. Double the lanes and maybe make them a tad longer, and then into the later game just add electric fences. Later game you can just upgrade it to as much steel as possible and you can last a long long time with such a simple build. It doesn't break pathing, so horde nights won't get boring. Great xp grinder every 7 days in game.
Two tips, On the front, just above the door, if you put upside down ramps, they can't stack up. And if you leave the top as bars, you can shoot any vultures. That keeps you in your hallway.
a few things:
1. make the roof bars, then you can shoot vultures
2. I made something similar to this. The stairs were bigger, had a landing and were a full stair pyramid, no issues with zombies getting stuck
3. Instead of a corridor, 3x3 room with bars on the front. Gives you room to throw down a dart trap to shoot right down the bridge, and put a junkie on the side. Leave out the middle bar and you can melee through it while stepping left or right to shoot. You can double up the bars for extra protection
4. the whole key to these kinds of bases is the raised bridge so that zombies can't pile up and attack your front blocks all at once. People who try to fight through a hatch on the ground leave 3 blocks wide in front of the door (the ground) and that allows much faster damage on your defenses.
5. Also electrical fences. Electrical fences across the bridge can make this base last a long long time. You can just sit there popping head shots while they jam up there.
I made a base similar to this but with a longer walkway for the zombies and a pit with metal spike traps and ramps for them to slowly make their way out of the pits. I also put two side platforms on the walkway with hammer guns so that the zombies get knocked into the pit. There is some maintenance though - sometimes have to fill in holes made by exploding zombies, replace the spike traps, etc.
i make the exact same horde base, with the only change i would make is that the path once the zombies get up those stairs, i would build a small bridge block so that when the zombies run towards me, 1 hit will ragdoll them over the edge
Sometimes I skip the Horde Night and just ride around on the motorcycle. It feels really bad ass, so long as you don't run out of fuel.
you can't anymore... vultures in blood moons flies faster then you and slow you down poking on you; maybe with the 4x4 you can do it.
I did the same with bycicle and stamina regen perks and stuff tho in A18.
@@TheIceThorn dang really? I played this on a multiplayer server a few years ago. Maybe it’s been updated since then but that sucks xD there goes my escape route I’ve been planning on using haha
@@dream__soda7900 yeah, in A18 it worked fine in SP too.
In MP, depending on how many players you may not need to run.
Too many players and the zombies stands still...
I've built that base as well now, though I prefer centered half blocks for the catwalk, so zombies slip up easier (though I guess it's more for looks than effect, really). Also, Maybe use plates or sheets or what they're called at the edges of your stairs, just to smooth out the bump you have from digging plus placing a block. Works wonders as well when you have a door into your base that you like to drive through with vehicles, by the way.
I don't watch many videos on this game, but, in my experience if you spawn in a small town, there is a small power station, it is all concrete with a broken wall, and a small basement. IF, you can buy 250 concrete and get something like 1k cobble. u knock down the 500 health concrete blocks in the hole in the wall, the door and some of the interior crap, u'll figure it out when you place your internal bocks. I basically layer the internal walls with wood or cobble bars, i fill the hole with 1 layer of concrete bars. I personally use some horizontal bars in the middle so i can eventually repair when i have 2 layers thick. so u have concrete external walls, filled with 1 layer of coble all around except the horizontal., so the zombies rush that horizontal bar. I personally try to buy pipe bombs, u can make it easily through night 7 in this. and with some more concrete it's very cheap to get a 3 deep concrete wall, with 2 deep concrete bars where the zombies attack. i just hurl pipe bombs and can very easily kill all the zombies on a horde night for many weeks. if I move to a bigger city i just build a similar base with concrete and steel, and have made it to night 70 without dying on the hardest setting with i think 24 zombie waves or something. Sadly that building isn't available in big towns or medium towns from my experience. i hope that made some sort of sense lol
Just building and upgrading a basic base from wood frames to cobblestone with a grated fence is enough to max out the engineering perk to craft steel without finding any schematics. FYI, I mean a sheltered fighting area with an underground section with plenty of space to put down crafting stations and storage. Building is great for XP gain.
Re destroy area mechanic.
I found that giving them something other than your base to destroy, it this case pillars of two blocks on top of each other set around the fall zone can work. The zoms attack those and not your base, they are cheaper than iron and stronger than wood. But don't hurt the zoms of course.
I usually add one more hatch just outside the hall facing the opposite direction so they open with the hatch doors together.
Watching the series a bit later BUT I'm loving it.
i had problems with this base design. there were to many zombies on stairs so others werent able to get up here with stairs so they were breaking blocks
btw u can use bars on the celling to shot birds
I made that on top of an existing bridge. Blocked the other approaches and left just the direct path. Wood spikes on outer walls and it got me through night 21 on default settings - so far.
It's better in A20 to make the foundations of this kind of base with back to back bars shape frames. The zombies will bash at the blocks more than the bars.
I wonder if anyone else will side with me when I say this, the sped up parts during the upgrading with the hammer has a nice quick beat 🤯
Good design. I tend to try and find an already existing building 3 or more stories tall. Do some slight mods to it and hope for the best for a few in game weeks. As I'm staying there I can slowly be building the actual base I'm wanting to use.
I watched jawoodle do the hatch hallway base a long time ago. I really like seeing it still in use. Great video thanks!
Some tips for building this base
1) Using centered security grates (from the construction tab of the shape helper) can help avoid zombie pileups and usually only have you dealing with one or two at a time.
2) Security grates can be used for the roof in the corridor base can be used to counter vulures.
(You probably knew this but other people might want to try this)
Yep and yep, one thing I don't know is if the security grates wreck the zombie AI in the same way that bars used to, do they path through the corridor alright?
@IzPrebuilt they usually treat centered ones as a normal block for the catwalk but I have no idea about the plate ones. I kinda just took the idea from watching Guns, Nerds, and Steel.
May be able to use one of the other options for vultures.
@@stillton1 I'll test it out next time I build this base, although I do stand by the old, walk out the back door and shoot the vulture trick, it has not failed me yet lmaooo
@@IzPrebuilt yeah vultures are just a pain in the ass... Sometimes
Very nice, very well instructed. Thank you very kindly. My advice is, ues three ROUND pillars to support the upper part of the corridor. Why? Because zombies will go around a round pillar. Round pillars are not easy for zombies the hit straight forward. Zombies tend to go around a pillar especially when they are in full run mode on a blood moon.
I like to use either spikes on the roof for vultures, or make it bars so I can shoot them
This is a variation on the design I use. You can cut some of the costs and make 100% of the blocks reachable to upgrade if you do some things slightly differently (I have held vrs. a nearly GS 150 horde w/ this design without issue; without doing any repairing during the fight, which can improve it's longevity by a lot).
To start, off with, it's fine to have the foundation of the corridor only 1 block wide as long as you're at least 4 blocks off the ground (from experience, being only 3 will lead to some zombies wanting to beat their way to the block your standing on instead of coming up the stairs to the kill zone). You can put the stairs leading right to the corridor, no reason to have a walkway they can fall off of (and possibly enter into destroy mode from that). Make the stairway 3 blocks wide (and the middle part of the foundation of said stairway hollow, no blocks, because it doesn't need to be filled in and you cannot reach the interior to upgrade it later; still have stairs flush with the others in the middle though). The set of stairs that will set against the corridor entrance should have corner stairs for the sides to encourage the zombies to funnel into the corridor. Do not put a hatch in the first block of the corridor (if you do and have it open towards the entrance, zombies can attack it from the side where you can't easily shoot them plus this negates the intended funneling effect of the design). Start at 1 block past the entrance block. You can make this corridor up to 30 hatches deep without pathing issues for the zombies (trying to for 40+ may lead to it not working, better if you need more than 30 to make an identical copy next to the first 1, but facing the opposite way, so you can bail and just run into the 2nd one when the first one runs out of hatches; you can obviously make more than 2 of these if for some reason you need more than 60 hatches to last the night just continue inverting which side the entrance is so as you bail from one you can enter the next 1 quickly; I've never needed more than 30 hatches myself, and those were still iron!). Lastly, for the back of the design, extend the foundation 1 block past the corridor end, and have the back of the corridor open (this is how you can bail in the event that you run out of hatches), I extend the top level of the foundation (which you stand on while using this base) 2 blocks out instead of 1 to give more room so you can actually use the last hatch and be just out of reach of the zombies (this space is also helpful when you need to clear the birds). The corridor should be walled in like shown, except the ceiling only need to be 1-block thick (I've never had the birds manage to breach my ceiling, even when I've left a dozen of them attacking it while dealing with all of the zombies first). I don't recommend trying to use bars instead for the ceiling because while this would allow you to shoot at the birds without going to the back of the base (or out the front if it's safe), this would also allow radiated birds to spitball you 24/7...not a fun time. I've never had them try to dig until this base either, so digging out the topsoil to start the foundation is unneeded.
For the first kill box i would suggest instead of having multiple hatch just use 2 one like you used and the other are reversed and put a 1 or 2 block hole there so when they break the second hatch which will cover the hole when we turn it offtbey just fall into the hole buying more time, as it take time for them to one by one jump over if they can
You can use the roof of a POI for extra suport on the back.
They tend to crawl now if they start to stack, I'm going to test with an additional row of blocks above the doorway to see if that minimizes that.
If you can get the zombies "out" of the destroy area mechanic via spike/trap damage, i reckon a rotating blade trap at the bottom of the bridge will do the same aswell?
EDIT: Oh nvm, that's why the walkway/bridge has been extended to 2 more blocks, to accommodate a blade trap, answered my own question.
Upon further testing of this base with some of my little own tweaks
(Extended the corridor to 4 more iron hatch's, And the entire base has been upgraded from the ground up to concrete)
and was able to survive the day 21 horde no problem, if you see a cop, crouch and stay out of sight behind the hatch's to avoid his vomit's.
Interestingly some of the zombies go immediately into destroy area mode when they approach from the back of the base toward the stairs, the zombies will take a whack at the corridor main structure then proceed to walk to the stairs.
i have placed a single file line of spikes around the rear of the base to combat some of the destroy area issue, the concrete was more than adequate for the job so if the zombies got through the spikes near the rear of the base, it was no problem.
This base testing was done on my own SMP with Scavenger difficulty. AI block damage at 50%, Zombies per horde was set at the standard 8 per wave.
I will try vault hatch's with forged steel upgrades to the main structure of the base to see how the base will fare with the added upgrades.
OMG, I never thought of a simple row of spikes as a vulture defense! 😳
I like this design its a good basis on which you can expand. Thing is though (and keep in mind I'm a novice player in 7days), I opted to built a simple 5x5 bunker base in the ground floor reception area of DiShong Tower with an iron hatch on the roof and 1 layer of wooden spikes on the walls, recently upgraded to concrete.... I'm now approaching Day 70 solo with normal settings on A20 plus I get the benefit of loot stage bonus being in the wasteland biome and tier5 poi. So I get why you'd want to make a more elaborate or interesting base for gameplay reasons, but if you just want a cheap base that will take you at least 10 horde nights in I'm not seeing a better cheaper option in all honesty.
Nice man
To make your base a bit more user-friendly, I recommend making the ceiling just wood/cobble bars so you can shoot the vultures through them instead of having to leave the front unmanned while you deal with the birds.
them u have to watch out for puking vultures
@@trinityghoul549 The bars stop most of it, but if you do end up standing in some, it doesn't do a whole lot of damage. You won't be (or shouldn't be) getting hit by zombied while manning the front, so the birds should be your only source of incoming damage. I don't recall seeing them for at least the first horde or two, so you should be okay. It may be worth checking your vendors to find a shotgun/smg turret in the first week, as that makes the vultures trivial to deal with 👍
I'm really appreciating your content, and look forward to more. A few questions... You did a similar design on your beginner's guide. I'm curious why you went with the full block bridge on this, instead of the half, and replaced the iron bars with hatches. I actually never used the bars myself, a hatch had worked just fine for me, and was nice to be able to enter from that side. Also, you used full stairs all the way up. I've seen some folks use single blocks that they have to jump up, which slows things down a little so I can grab a breather. Thoughts there?
I use a full block bridge on this because I am now more aware of that "destroy area mechanic" so I actually want a bit less falling down in this early stage where all I have to stop the damage is the spike. I would also kind of prefer a little bit of piling up at the doorway so I can do some glancing damage with my knives, in the beginner's guide I was using a bow so I was leaning towards trying to thin out zombies to a single line.
I use stairs because you actively want the zombies to get up the stairs faster and into your melee range but you need to do it such a way that there is a steady flowing stream rather than big clumps, the last thing I want is bunching up on the stairs, and then half the zombies get enraged and start smacking the stairs, and then the stairs fail and then they start just beating the walls and foundations because they can't reach me and destroy the whole base.
Note: that last scenario probably won't happen, but it's likely enough and easy enough to avoid that I just work around it automatically.
You need to add distance (catwalk) to slow it down, you need to have enough room for the zombies to flow but not so much that they can swarm (the 1 wide nature of the catwalk) and you need to make sure that the zombies can get back to the top as easily as possible (the very easily accessed stairs) and you need to keep killing or knocking over the zombies.
It's like a well-oiled machine you don't want clots making stuff get backed up because then things start to break.
@@IzPrebuilt Thanks for the detailed reply! I'm a pretty new player, so always helps to understand mechanics I'm less aware of. I tried your Fort build, which was impressive, and am dabbling with an int/agi build just for something different. But this base seems solid for just about anything in the first many weeks.
@@DraconisNocturne If you ever have any questions about this game, Prebuilt is the man to ask. He is a walking encyclopedia of the game and, despite complaining on stream of his viewers ;) is a really nice guy that will go out of his way to give you detailed info like he did. The man is obsessed with the color red though. My goal is to get some blue in there somewhere lol
@@Lorri. He seems exceptionally knowledgeable, and is very clear with explaining. Plus not a rambler like a lot of channels. :)
Idk if it has been said but you can double the hatches up by turning them towards each other
Could someone explain the vault door mechanic he was talking about at the end where they do or don’t attack the vault door? I’m pretty new to the game still. This guide was awesome I’m just confused on that part!
Pretty much the basic bones of most of my bases...
I like to add a horizontally placed door in front of my fighting area so I can dump the zombies if I need a minute to heal, repair and reload. I like INT builds so I normally have a robotic sledge by day 14. This style of base will work for as long as you want to upgrade building materials and add traps and turrets.
Honestly when I see people having bad horde nights online, its never because they stuck to a basic , simple design like this.
I’m actually more interested in seeing what your next space design will be for later in the game you can pretty much build literally anything in the beginning of the game and it be completely fine for like four weeks
Looks good! Subscribed 👍
Love all your vids man very informative keep up the good work 👌
I make something similiar with bars on top for easy shooting of vultures.
I did a similar thing, but my roof is iron bars so I can just look up and shoot vultures. It’s lasted me into day 80+ on insane/sprint
Is there any way to get corner stairs on Xbox? I can’t hold R to get all of the options, and rotating the block with the triggers doesn’t get the same effect for the corner stairs.
Its awesome base to beginning. ;) Thanks. :) ( sorry for bad english )
Spike damage stopping zombies railing on the base? Thank you, Sir, this one was news to me.
Shift+R pulls up the block selection screen without having to use the wheel. Saves a couple seconds.
I know I just don't use it
Better if you use thin pole for the bridge instead if a full block👍 so they stay in line one by one
So why dig a hole for the first block? does it give added protection the the base or is it for resources?
I built something similar I had them walk up the stairs then I put a turn into it so a sledgehammer would hit the opposite side of the demo button along with a couple blocks on the main ramp leading to my shooting area I used it from my first horde night till that character had full kit lvl 6 gear basically a L shape
but HOW do you pull out the ladder once the zombies pile up and the top one starts climbing it? There are so many zombies running around on the ground you can't just easily hop off your base to land on the ground, turn around, remove the ladder, then jump back up.
this is awesome we got base building with clay digging
Can i ask why do you build it one row into the ground? whats the benefit?
Thanks
It's if you have a exploder go off near it it won't keep it from getting damaged but the cushion from the dirt should keep it from completely collapsing after one
When i upgrade it to concrete do i want to keep the hatches the same level?
i really hope you are gonna make a video on that "big" horde base too!
why do you 1 deep dig into the ground and put cobble down there?
If a zombie gets shocked by the electric fence and falls, still taking dmg from the shock, that should take them out of dertucto mode too, right?
Also been my favourite early game base with a usually just upgraded and larger design for the later game.
I'm curious if you anyone knowledgeable on the matter, can zombies spawn on player placed blocks. Trying to design a larger base and curious. I've heard that they can't somewhere in the ether but can't seem to confirm it.
Do you have a tutorial base design for a mid or late game horde?
how did u open the shapes menu?
press r while holding frame :)
similar to JaWoodles Hatch base :) i like it!
Does he have a video upgrading this for later days or is it a lost cause later on?
Nice base and video. I always use this kind of design early game. But why do you need to craft both wooden and iron hatches, then place and upgrade the wooden hatches to iron, when you could directly place the iron hatches first? Similarly, why not craft cobblestone blocks and place those directly instead of placing wooden blocks and upgrading them, which uses extra wood?
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why do plates in the ceiling hender the base? i currently use a tunnel hatch base and have bars in the ceiling but now am questioning it lol
It makes them go all ducking mode if they actually get inside
is the destroy block mechanic still in the game
Loved the video
zombie can stand on each other so that ladder is a danger potential...still a good video
what if i upgraded my hatches to iron (1k tp) will the zombies go for it in the first horde night?
Can you build a mini base on top or would it mess up the pathing
If you're in the horde base itself no but the bigger concern would be the structure integrity you'd need some more pillars planted so it doesn't collapse
So, I was just about to hop on my game, horde night imminent, when I watched this and realized my horde base could be a LOT better, and learned why to upgrade blocks instead of crafting cobblestone blocks. Long story short, I'm going to fire up a new world lol. Curious about using iron bars in the roof to handle vultures?
Iron bars used to break zombie AI so using them on the roof of bases like this was considered premium grade parisian cheese (meaning I couldn't make a video about them lmao) because zombies would stand still after the first layer of hatches, However I have no idea if this strategy works anymore, or if the new zombie ducking makes them do weird things under bars, but in theory yes, bars or similar blocks will give you access to the sky and the ability to shoot vultures.
@@IzPrebuilt hmm. Not sure if I want to be a guinea pig for that!
@@madmommy If I test it soon I'll let you know lmao.
@@madmommy On one of my playthroughs in alpha 20, I used bars on the roof of a similar base design and everything went well. I just had an expanded corridor base basically with room inside to walk around and put up electric fence posts on either side of the walkway and a junkie at the side. Works wonders.
Yah, so they ate through the ceiling and crept over the trapdoors. I had to abandon the base after maybe an hour and a half (in-game time). Does the design not support Insane difficulty, could that be it?
6:47 - "You'll also need about 4 iron hatches as well"
I didn't catch where you actually used any iron hatches. Did I miss that part (I thought you just upgraded the 4 wooden ones with materials), or can I ignore that part?
Edit: I'm new, I didn't realize that iron hatches were used to upgrade wooden hatches.
Wooden doors and wooden hatches both require their iron counterparts as a higher upgrade, and iron doors and iron hatches require their vault counterparts afterwards
@@WillFordStudios I didn't yet know that about the doors. Thanks!
@@g3synth205 No problem! This game is difficult to learn because it's not well documented, but youtubers such as Saven's World, Guns Nerds and Steel, and IzPrebuilt are all very reliable sources of information
This type of horde base will last into the late game, when it is properly upgraded. The basic simplicity of it is why it is considered a classic.
A very simple way to deal with birds, is to use bars instead of blocks for the center portion of the roof, you can then shoot them.
All the best.
Cheers.
It lacks the gunfighter and creative spirit, but I guess that is a necessary sacrifice when it comes to not dying.
Really good video! I'm new to this game and looked at a few tutorials and I see alot of people use metal bars. Is there a reason not to use them or is it just preference?
Mainly preference it's just a solid block to put down to shoot through which we have plenty of options for that now
Even easier is to incorporate the corridor into an existing structure.
So cool thanks!
I remember when this game was alpha 16 how it has changed
I tried this design and 99% don’t go near the stairs , they just gather around the bottom near the opposite end where u r and bash at the structure ?
You built it incorrectly then because I've tested this base dozens of times and I used in ep 7 and it went fine, and i'm about to use it again in ep 14 and again it went fine.
@@IzPrebuilt only difference is I may have built mine one block higher( have to go back and check, but not sure if that makes a difference) realized afterward you’re not on console , maybe the AI is different
@@kevinsaun6362 Given that console hasn't been updated in 5 years, yes the ai is different. You'll need to look up specifically "console" horde bases.
@@kevinsaun6362 hey I’m on console too and I had the same issue u had …I really wanted then to come toward me like in this vid but they just went to my corridor instead
Wait a sec, about a third of the way into the video and I just realized why not place a blade trap also in front of the stairs so they wouldn’t be able to over climb each other? Might work 😅
Just finished the video seems legit 😁👌
can this only be done in the desert?
no its works fine outside of it
@@diseasedworm9209 aight thank you
@@screwzyy8368 it works great for me in the forest
Could you not just simply change the middle row of roof blocks to bars and have a simple cobblestone 'skylight' that you can shoot through for vultures?
How do you about the same exact building funny enough but instead of just doing the blocks from the ramp to the hallway I use these half spheres and I use them because sometimes the zombies have slip off of it so it slows them down a little bit and instead of building stairs all the way up I just put stairs in the bottom and then the last three blocks I just leave them as blocks so they have to jump up which slows them down even more in the gap in between the ramp in your hallway I haven’t six long and this is because if I ever get a generator or blade traps or I mean both of them I can put blade traps down there so if they slip off the blade traps kill them can’t even put a whole bunch of spike traps down there if you really wanted to but that’s a lot of XP it’s up to you
how to get a shovel???
go to the crafting tab and search "shovel" and then craft one
Tried and true!