agreed. at the same time though any cheater is a piece of shit. and hansen deserves that blow since he's always hitting below the belt on his program. calling people out on irrelevant things. like on guy had a t-shirt on that was affiliated with MIT and he was a math teacher and hansen said, look at that tshirt he's got on, it's typically worn by students who go to MIT, but [predator name] didn't go to MIT he went to a SMALL college in NY.
what the guy forgot to mention in the video is that the woman he was cheating on was 21 years younger then him. Thats where the show credibility could come into question.
***** thats true but Hanson has made the argument in a lot of these cases of asking the men " Cant you find a girl your own age " and with this getting out those words lose credibility.
***** the predators could use the argument that Hanson is no different from them messing around with a woman that's MUCH younger then him and ABC dose not want that plausibility used ageist there star reporter for these investigation.
How many kids would otherwise got hurt without that program ? I still remember the guy that had his trunk full of "kidnapping" materials, with horror. In the end, that show did way more good than harm.
johnmburt1960: Agreed, entertainment value should not be the forefront of anybody's mind. I just want bad people stopped. Do some honest detection, prove if the suspect has criminal intent, bag him. I don't need to see the justice _unfold_ to serve my own hunger. The show felt cringy to me and the only reason these people sought out children was to serve their own urge I doubt they had much control over. I'm aware the States doesn't much help rehabilitate or improve most criminals in any way, but the show need only focus on the capturing, not the luring, or the gloating from the host.
To be fair, adultery was illegal for a long time, and probably still should be. That said, statutory rape is definitely far worse than nefarious consensual sex.
Coupledyeti Vonvanderburg In the USA adultery is still is illegal (usually a misdemeanour with a tiny fine), whereas in Europe it is mostly legalised. On the other hand, sex with a minor is illegal everywhere (except the Muslim world) and even can carry a life sentence.
"Did To Catch a Predator perform a public service, or was it just another ratings-hungry reality series?" It was both. Those two things are not necessarily in conflict.
If anything about this is ratings hungry then they are not doing it for the right reasons to actually solve a problem or heal it has to because you want to not because of money or tv or any other reason other wise your not helping at all.
But the problem is the law where you can't "force" them into the situations but some others say its enticement it depends on the judge and what he/she decides on it.
It wouldn't have if Chris and his crew knew how to manage money. He is in jail for bounced checks used for the show (like high class Hotels etc). If he would have settled down for cheaper Motels and co he might be still in Business with a show / gather money for a 3rd reinstallment. Maybe when he Comes out of jail… but he also is responsible for cyber crime by falseflagging other catch a predator youtuber formats that were not made by him.
At least two people were caught by the show twice. Many of the people who were caught after the show became popular were familiar with the show. Many even suspected that they were being set up. How exactly do you define "Deterrent"?
The problem is that they are not caught doing anything....there was no actual crime because the scenario did not allow for anything illegal...Just because they "thought" they were about to do something illegal doesn't mean its a crime when no underage person was involved.
so you would rather them have sex with children tell they one day if ever get caught.sorry but letting that happen is all kinds of wrong. when you can put an actor that looks like a kid be in a chat room and let the perverts start the chat then let him start talking about sex then the pervert wants to come over.comes inside and the police are waiting sounds much better to me. if your kid was in this Scenario at what point would you call the cops? when you found out an adult was knowingly having chat sex with your little girl?when you find out that the guy hasn't touched her yet but has been talking with her outside after school?well maybe it will take you coming home and finding the guy having sex with your kid or worse yet you come home and your kid is gone? .....the fact is it is not real to me but it is damn sure very real to the guys they step inside that door its game over they broke a few laws. this show might have stopped a murder or rapes of children..thats how this show got started victims and familys of victims started this
We attack the show because of its vigilante justice. They decide who is guilty, that is not how american law works. These men might be pedophiles, but purely being a pedophile is not illegal. Having sex with someone underage is illegal. These men were trying to do something illegal but never did it. In America, for the most part, that means it is not illegal. The show also ruins these men's lives, which is why people sue them. There is a strong argument to be made that it was the adraneline rush of getting a child to agree to have sex with you, which is not illegal, and then going to the house is just a stronger adrenaline rush. These men might have no desire to have sex, but could just like the idea of it, and that is not harmful to someone nor is it illegal.
@Danica Ingrao yeah but it's seen badly by people. Especially from someone making a career out of teaching moral lessons and avoid wrong sexual desires and all
@@JSB-2Z-2K Cheating on your wife is totally different than raping an underage child. Cheating on your wife is breaking a promise. Raping an underage child is raping an underage child
Multibears fan No, dumbass, no. Pizzagate is real, ever read the Podesta e-mails? Russian hacking is a charade to get people's minds off of the pizzagate investigation.. and thanks to many gullible dumbasses it worked!
y'all got something wrong in your head? You just saw the consequences of having a show like this. It was in fact counter productive. All in the name of views and ratings to make money. Hansen is no hero, he just thinks you're enough of a shmuck.
I don't feel bad for them but this isn't the way to do it and most we're setup. How many times do I have to point out about what happened to their families. You cant turn a blind eye just because of them being a predator. I want them put away too but not like this. AGAIN!!!!!!!!!! What do you think happened to their children at school? How about their wives. Lots of cant even get a job. Put them a way but not by plastering their face all over the word so NBC can get a profit.
Grow the fuck up, you spastic. People should be allowed to critize things without being accused of being pedophiles. Just because some might object to the certain way some things are being done or the motives of some reality show, doesn't mean you have to immediately accuse them of being kid rapists, ya fuckin brick brain piece of shit.
You miss the point that some underage boys and girls want to have sex with people they meet online. This TV show did nothing to stop,that because there were no real underage people involved, at all, in anyway.
My guy, i love the show. But the fact you want someone to take a video out shows how insecure you are about your opinion. This video highlighted the other side of the coin beatifully. You getting mad over it and react in a fanboyish way doesn't help its case
This was a fantastic series...these adults had no business talking to children in such an explicit manner, and exposed a very serious issue. I hope that Hansen vs Predator keeps doing more episodes.
Regardless if he cheated on his wife. That was his personal business. Not ours. We were in no way harmed because of his screw up. However, if a predator is in our towns preying on our children then that is our business. Those that claim that they were "set up" or "yeah, spend lots of $ to lock them up" or even that Hansen spent donated $ to do the show ... I think I'd rather see predators caught & put behind bars no matter the $. Are you going to put a price on your kids to keep them safe? There is no telling that if these had not of been decoys, what would have actually happened if they were children. The way that I see it is that at least one child has been saved from a lifetime of mental torment.
The USA is the only non-Islamic/Western Hemispheric country who thinks adultery is of any concern beyond the family circle. It's rooted in this country's obsession with taking religion out of the churches and applying its outmoded standards to secular matters.
Troy Evitt Religion is the only means of just. It’s common sense to NOT CHEAT ON YOUR SPOUSE THAT YOU VOWED TO BE WITH FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE UNTIL DEATH. I didn’t know that they hold these sorts of ceremonies for pedophiles too.
If you want safety you should donate to psychologists trying to solve the problem. It’s like trying to individually squish the fleas on my dog rather than treating it with medicine to get rid of all of them
When married people cheat on their spouses we as a society are harmed by this , because of our apathy, the moral fabric our country was built on is breaking down more every day. We almost have no moral compass. A lot of people have become cheaters, liars and downright disgusting, thieves, and pilagers. And those who have children are teaching this to their kids, inadvertently. Hey but who cares right because it's none of our business......SMDH....
And its Not even Entrapment. If you read the chatlogs it goes like this Decoy: *Builds a MySpace accnt. Puts 13 on age* Pedo: *Barges in outa nowhere* Cool if a 34 yr old Talks to you? Decoy: Sure. Pedo: Do you masturbate? Any hair down their? Decoy: I suppose. Pedo: Dont tell your parents. Oh and are you a cop?
@@geordiezinn7475 what planet do you live on? Its not illegal to have an affair with an ADULT. Cant say that for middle east but in general, its not illegal to cheat on your spouse- its just a grounds for divorce
@@geordiezinn7475 By God's law adultery is going against the law but not by the law of the land so someone can't be thrown in jail for doing it. Comparing something that he did with a woman to child sexual assault is wrong in itself.
I mean so many of the people caught admitted to being scared of literally being on the show. So I'd say it's effective.. even though... they still showed up. I just mean at least it struck fear into predators and possibly prevented some from taking that step and making the drive to the house. Plus it's entertaining as crap to watch lol
stopped them from going to that house, that time. Bless the lord for CH stopping an imaginary child from being abused. Now how about the rest after? have any sympathy for them?
@Brutus Tan But he was a graphic artist of some sort for that network, and he had no direct contact with the young talent used on that network. He probably never even touched anyone underage in real life.
I don’t think Looper took that stance at all. They seemed like they didn’t really take a side either way- they just reported on public opinion. In a pretty unbiased way if you ask me.
nunya baznus I feel kinda funny about the idea of entrapment. Its like saying its OK to do something THAT YOU FULLY UNDERSTAND IS ILLEGAL as long as you were tricked into it by law enforcement or the government... like really? That sounds nutty. Its almost like the idea implies that if anyone was given the opportunity who knew the laws then in the same situation, they'd have sex with underage people. Um... no... I do understand there is a rule against entrapment, I just think its stupid. Maybe there is something I'm missing, but when someone says "hey this is illegal, do not ever do that" and you decide "hey, I'm going to do that thing"... come on...
nunya baznus That's a bullshit example. These guys go into chat rooms looking to fuck children and then go expecting to fuck children. The student in your example goes to hang out with older kids, but that could mean anything.
nunya baznus Well, for one thing, Dateline works WITH the police, so the police are also their doing their job, too. I'm still stuck at the point where people who are getting caught on this show clearly had every intention of fucking children based on overwhelming amounts of evidence, and no amount of going entrapment makes me believe that these guys wouldn't have raped the shit out of little girls and boys if Chris Hansen and the police weren't actually there. People who are not child rapist will NEVER be "entrapped" in these scenarios, period. You can't walk up to a random person who has no interest or a strong aversion to fucking children and then magically convince them to meet a 13 year old girl home alone for sex using some mental voodoo. Every time I think of entrapment, I just think its bullshit. DO NOT DO THINGS THAT ARE ILLEGAL. What part of that is hard to understand?
nunya baznus OK, so just answer this. Why is it that you should be allowed to do something that you know ahead of time is illegal but you have been lured into it? For context, why should you be able to solicit sex with a minor and travel to their house for sex, which is illegal and everyone knows this, but have it thrown out because you were "tricked" into it? Are they really tricked? Maybe I'm missing something but I've thought about this many times and I don't get it.
Totally I mean people really need to see it in the way that it's either a predator gets to a child and traumatises him or her for life and their family, or either even does it for years until he gets caught and kills himself in jail and potentially traumatises multiple children , I do understand that for these people's family it's also tragic either way and I absolutely consider the fact that these people have some sort of disorder and need to get a therapy, but in the end most cases are lost cases ...
Completely agree! tbh I’m pro death penalty for convicted peadophiles ! If they know what they’re doing is wrong and chosen to do it anyway. Instead of handing themselves in to get help (although I don’t believe they can really be rehabilitated.) then in my opinion they should be shot. They are the rot in society. To put it another way. If you had an apple tree and part of it began to decay. Would you let the decay spread and destroy the other apples? No you’d get rid of the rot! End
@synchromorph >I would have stomped you >you're hiding behind a computer screen. Yeah you were either bullied hard or were a bully. Probably both since you talk mad shit to everyone and cry when you get it back.
The whole publicly exposed thing is kinda BS, if they were busted in a normal police sting they'd have to register as a sex offender and that info would be public anyways.
I live in a state where the age of consent is 16 and sex offenders aren't required to publicly announce it and I believe if you go to prison and serve your time it should end there once you get out you shouldn't be put on some list and loss your rights
You are a legend Chris Hansen! You prevented so many predators from potentially causing harm to minors. People don’t realise how much influence this guy had. He saved lives from being ruined
I give him credit in preventing some lives but in the grand scale all that he did was earn lots of dollars in the process. In fact predators seeing the show might refine their methods.
"I know you who are, Chris Hanson. But, I calls you Chris Handsome. I watch your show all the time, so you can go ahead and bring out them cameras and police that's waiting outside. It don't make me no difference. I like you, and I want you. And we can do this the easy way or the hard way. Choice is yours." "I don't think you and I will be doing ANYTHING any kind of way." "...Okay, so I see you choosing the hard way."
Wow, the people commenting below defending or saying that these people committed no crime. What the actual fuck. Intent is intent. If this wasn't a sting operation, who knows who's child could have been raped and/or killed
Let's give a little reality check on your integrity. I think you're aware that most comments refer to these men as "sick fucks", "disgusting" and "deserving to die." No one's actually saying that these "pedoes" haven't committed a crime. The question at hand is, is the motivation of TCaP to protect the public or to gain favors as a t. v. series?
vids2002 that shitty logic goes both ways. If there wasn't a sting operation, who knows if these people would have ever gotten invited to a kids house (the answer is likely no, judging by the amount of reported instances of this unlikely crime fabricated by dateline)
Then you are a fascist who is many times more dangerous and immoral then the men you are talking about. Due process is a seriously important facet of justice, and to allow if you "don't care what methods they used" then you are justifying a fascist police state that has the right to do anything. Good thing we have a constitution to protect us from authoritarian self righteous morons like yourself.
bucket foot-bullshit. those guys were caught dead to rights trying to fuck under aged kids. they put their necks in the noose to satisfy their own perversions. don't blame the people trying to get them off the street and away from kids. you're very foolish if you think they're innocent and i hope your kids never experience what these creeps are capable of. fascism? bullshit. they didn't drag them out in the street and stone them to death (although, that's not a bad idea) they went to jail . you are truly an idiot if you think that.
NO ONE IS DEFENDING PEDOPHILES What people are arguing is that even though they're caught in the act, we can't just go and off someone because of a fucking tv show. The U.S has a thing called due process. Murderers go through it, thieves go through it, and yes surprise surprise PEDOPHILES GO THROUGH DUE PROCESS TOO! I don't get how any sane person can use "The end justifies the means" bullshit. You know who uses that logic? ISIS, you know who else used it? The KKK. I'm not saying what the pedophiles did was right, but what I am saying is that you're worse than the pedophiles for ignoring basic human rights. +zippity Since the pedophiles are at fault for getting caught is it safe to say that it's the minor's fault for getting molested? Serious question because by your logic the answer is yes.
stefano crispi- even you are calling them pedophiles. so you know they're guilty too. think about that. in cases like this-all the justice system does is give them the chance to waste tax payer money, get a slap on the wrist and boom-they're back out there doing it again.please don't twist my words around to suit your misinformed logic. the victims are never to blame. no kid deserves this- no matter how curious they are or lonely or whatever their issue is. they're inexperienced and don't fully understand the danger they put themselves in. you're really ignorant for saying that.and you have a warped mind-please don't speak to me again-i'm not wasting any more words on the likes of a manipulative child rapist supporter.
Attack Helicopter Well in Texas not one of the people caught were charged. All this video pointed out was the issues the show had. It never said it didn't do a good service, just showed stuff people might not have known.
Attack Helicopter Maybe try watching the video next time numbnuts? Taking out pedos is all well and good but the method is slippery as Looper did provide the question of whether entrapment is possible. Should the media really be doing this shit, especially since it lines their pockets based on the ratings? Think about it for more than a second
At the end of the day... Adult men/women who show perversion to underage kids should be exposed. Period. It ain't that hard to understand. Fuck child predators.
I think it was more about how NBC was making money off such dirty business, and their abnormal proximity, for a tv broadcaster, to every step of the process that went into baiting/arresting these people.
"exposed" to whom? The police, sure, but if you are willing to ruin their lives via nationwide broadcast why not stop pretending and just line them up against a wall and shoot them? It would probably be less painful.
You can always tell who the pedophiles are on these types of videos and articles. Can you guess how? "It would probably be less painful." Why would you want it to be less painful??? You do realize that ALL these men think they're arriving at a THIRTEEN YEAR OLD GIRLS house TO HAVE SEX WITH HER, RIGHT??? i don't give a flying fuck about this whiny narrators whiny reasons this show is bad. The only thing that would've pissed me off is if it turned out to all be fake, and that all the men were just actors. Other than that, they all got what they deserved, including the public humiliation. It's not like there was any confusion whatsoever, AT ALL that this was a BABY GIRL that they were talking to about having sex with. The only thing that pissed me off with this show, was that some of the men weren't prosecuted..
Lukands, I've never replied to someone who is a pedo-apologist before, and I'm not going to start now. The reason I'm talking to you is because I think you'd've said the same thing no matter what kind of bad person we were talking about. However, you need to realize that pedophiles can't be "reformed", ever. There's no way to 'fix' them or 'rehab' them or anything else. Normal, grown up men and women are sexually attracted to other grown up men and women. No matter their 'sexuality', whether they're homosexuals or straight, they're sexually attracted to other grown ups. Pedophiles sexuality, (that means who they're sexually attracted to) is CHILDREN. That can't be fixed, and there's no drug or treatment program that can change that. It's the same thing with sociopaths. There's nothing that can be done to fix or rehab them either. The main difference between the two is that PEDOPHILES DON'T HAVE TO ACT ON THEIR SEXUAL URGES, YET THEY CHOOSE TO DO IT ANYWAY KNOWING IT'S WRONG AND THAT THEY'RE DESTROYING YOUNG CHILDREN'S LIVES. And so that's why people feel so strongly that all pedo's that are caught should just be killed. They contribute NOTHING to society except to kill a child's innocence, peace, spirit, soul, mind, trust, and everything good in their little short lives. I'm seriously asking you how you can defend that? How is it that you're more worried for justice for this guy, how are you more worried about his pain than all the little girls he's hurt and will continue to hurt when he gets out of prison? I'm hoping you answer me.
If you want to fix overcrowded prisons than this show isn't where to look. Take a look at Black incarceration and the war on drugs and you'll find actual harmless criminals who have been fucked over long before they were born. Not surprised there's some jackass in here trying to defend the people out trying to abuse children. Sounds like you might be one of them.
This is not "vigilante justice." They do not lure people to a house and beat them, they hand everything over to police. As a former Perverted Justice volunteer myself, the organization is also *incredibly* scrupulous about its evidence procedures, in fact far more careful than many actual law enforcement agencies.
There's always some tryhard edgelord wanting to feel morally superior and hating on pedophiles is like the lowest hanging fruit lol if you're ok with this retarded brand of justice you should move to a country like guatemala or india where they will literally burn you alive on the streets for stealing food from a vendor.
***** "Retarded brand of justice?" You are aware that are cops waiting at the decoy house? To make normal legally binding arrests? All they're doing is documenting people saying incriminating shit, then handing the logs and the pedos over to police. There are no "vigilantes" taking it into their hands to punish anybody.
jimin u got no jams In all seriousness tho the fact that people sympathize with any of these people is so disgusting. I understand these men can't choose what their fetish is, and they can't help how they feel but just because they're into younger children doesn't mean they have to act on those fetishes. They all have an option to seek help and go to therapy, but instead they choose to take advantage of young teens and scar them for life once they realize how wrong it was. Fuck 'em lol why do any of them deserve sympathy
The guy that killed himself did not act on his sexual desires. He did not show up to the house like the other predators, they tracked him down at his house and then he killed himself. There is every reason to believe that that one did not act on his impulses and would not have considering how they gave him a ridiculously easy opportunity to do it and he refused. I find it disgusting how people have no sympathy for a man, who nobody hear knows caused harm to anybody, who killed himself.
@dorothydreams oftornadoes Except that guy in the 2:17 section who committed suicide after the crew just went straight to the guy's house instead of waiting for him to take the situation offline. It should be common knowledge that there are people who say they will do something while online but once they have to physically engage with it offline, reality hits and they don't actually do it. What they did was irresponsible and undermines the show's purpose as a collection of undeniable evidence for successfully prosecuting a methodical pedophile. Why do you think the 3:14 court case was thrown out? They acted too hastily, recklessly, and presumptuously. Didn't get enough evidence? Criminal will get away and learn to be more careful. Others will learn to be less fearful as they aren't thorough enough to win every court case.
@MrLeermeister one of those things is consent and the other is being a cheating lying asshole. no one tricked these kids. they did it of their own free will. and if they just 2-3 years older its suddenly not illegal. how wise are you getting in 2-3 years exactly?
@@dynamo3059 Well that guy who commited suicide was found to have childporn,and dirty sexual chats with younger girls and hanson had an affair with a 30 year old women.I think I know which ones more perverted
Being that young you might think you know everything but you really don't and having some older person trying to groom you n stuff like that is wrong on so many levels. It doesn't matter if a 13 year old agrees to it . Doesn't make it ok . they're still being taken advantage of and thats how most kids go missing
It's always different when you read the chat logs and listen to the phone conversations. There, they aren't some scared poor man being forced to do illegal activities, there they make sure to take precautions, that the decoy really is up for sex, and that grooming and manipulation tactics are really taking place.
I'm so glad I found your comment. I was looking for this in particular. I totally agree with you here! I hadn't seen much of this show to begin with but what I did see... and Ik it's controversial to say this but sometimes I'd find myself feeling a little bad for the guys. That is until I stumbled on a RUclipsr called Dave's Lemonade. He puts up all the chat logs & videos and then analyzes the hell out of both the chats and the sting house videos. It was truly eye opening to read those chat logs and then see the original videos again, yet this time armed with a larger view of what brought these men to the house. I was in disbelief at what I was reading. Some people really are wolves in sheep's clothing. You're right. These guys are definitely not scared poor men... that is until they realise they'd been caught by the very trap they were so cautious to not walk into. I found it a little amusing that they'd ask the decoy to "swear you aren't a cop" or "swear it isn't a setup". Haha! What a strange question to ask. I mean, that's just illogical and generally speaking we should all follow our initial gut feeling and not walk into dangerous situations of any kind. However, having read the chats I had an overall sense of happiness that they managed to push through their fear and turned the volume down on their conscience enough to be caught. These same men should've and easily could've been champions for our youth. Upon hearing their age (some only 12 years old) they could've just said be careful and goodbye. Individually they wouldn't have put a stop to this type of crime against children but they could have made a difference and it would've set an example. I'm glad the transcripts are available.
Negative attention my arse. This show is a justice to all the children out there who are abused by these sick twisted people. There should be more "NAME AND SHAME" shows like this to take these scum off our streets.
While I think it's safe to say we all feel that it is wrong, it does beg the question, that if these "children" are actively looking for sex, how much of a predator are you if the bait comes running to your arms? While I like the idea that children should remain children and keep their innocence as long as possible, not that long ago in human history was the age of consent MUCH lower. It was not considered immoral for a 14 year old to marry and start a family. Not condoning any behavior, but just pointing out some food for thought. What exactly is a predator, what makes it immoral, and are we simply indoctrinated that this is wrong or is it truly wrong?
+namron9797 I think you're absolutely right but sadly can we at least count on adults to act like adults? I figured someone would at least say "this is inappropriate therefore I will no longer engage in any conversion/whatever with you." I don't doubt some teenagers are looking for sex, I'm not surprised since hormones make them go crazy but I think an adult has more common sense
PreyForForgiveness You'd be surprised what people will do when they think no one is looking or will find out. Humans are the most depraved creatures to have walked this planet.
It would be doing more justice for children if they would catch the real sickos, the millionaire & billionaire paedo-sadists who produce child porn and take child see slaves but that'd be too much work and not as profitable of a TV series
1) Someone who would sexually assault anyone, a child in particular should be water boarded every hour on the hour for the rest of their lives. The AMA has even stated it's an incurable condition. Oh and any sexual predator, be it of a child or not is welcome to off themselves any time they wish, trust me, we won't miss ya. 2) It is not entrapment, the same way an officer offering to buy drugs from a dealer isn't. Your not suggesting they commit a crime, your just providing a scenario where they can choose to or not to and then acting accordingly. 3) Criminals need to be exposed, if that drives ratings, I say great, because it just gives them incentive to keep exposing them.
I wouldn't consider it . entrapment. In all of these cases, the person caught was the who initiated the convo, & they had evidence of their plans. One guy even got caught twice.
a day after he got caught & had a court date, in fact. the naked dude turned into the McD's 'I was getting something to eat!' dude. Fucker. They need to play this show on a continuous loop in prisons so the other prisoners see what they look like in case one of them shows up some day...
The main reason why it's not entrapment is because law enforcement doesn't interact with these people until they've already committed a crime. Perverted Justice operated with or without the police or the show. NBC, Perverted Justice, and the police operated in concert with one another for TCAP, but these were never instances of law enforcement enticing anyone to break the law. In the states the show operated in, it was illegal to solicit sex from a minor. These men committed a crime in the privacy of their own homes. Once they ended up on the doorstep of a person they thought was a child, they were basically digging a deeper grave. The police were merely there lying in wait.
I think anyone who exposes a grown man seeking sex w/13-14 year olds off the street is doing God's work period.. Bless all the organizations that do this.
God’s work is not to tempt people into entertaining evil thoughts by posing as an underage girl online looking for sex. This is man’s work to regulate the society he lives in and to create industry and meaning for his life. Let’s not put God’s name on this. Otherwise, you are saying that He approves of tempting people to commit sins, which is not the case: unless of course God and the devil are the same being. Is that what you are saying?
They're individuals. Some of them are monsters, and some of them are sad, confused people that are trying to find their way out. It's not their choice to be like that.
Its obviously their choice to act on those feelings but the feelings themselves weren't chosen. In some instances maybe its "easy pussy" but there's a difference between a guy looking for easy pussy and someone legitimately attracted to younger, maybe prepubescent girls.
even if you've never touched a child, but look at child pornography, your helping to fuel an industry, that does more harm to each and every individual child shown there.
Downloading something for free doesn't harm anyone unless the person who downloaded it is spreading it along. Buying it is actually fueling those industries.
@@Mr.Caligos umm no sites have ads now, are you justifying child pornography just because you dont pay for it? It should disgust anyone wheter it be free or not.
It’s easy to say the show was problematic in 2018 when almost every kid has a phone or tablet, but I think you also have to consider that the show debuted in 2004 during the first generation of young kids who were online and interacting with other people in chat rooms. I’m sure there were MANY people who had no idea how easy it was for their children to talk to complete strangers.
Obviously that's an emotional response. However, death clearly doesn't fit the crime here. Let's be real. And no, I don't condone their behavior. Insult me if you wish.
Well be it as it may, "Fuckhead" (Casey James). Gay people and Pedoes are different as an issue, the same way Blacks and Women and Gays are different. That doesn't mean that social discrimination against them are deserved. I get tired of "scumbag" trite fallacious arguments as yours.
I never defend pedophiles who act on their desires, but I have sympathy for some of them. They are mentally sick and they made horrible choices, they can be helped. Childhood upbringing and trauma might be a real factor in developing pedophilia in adulthood, including children who have been molested themselves. Nobody chooses what they're exposed to as children because they don't know any better and these unlucky ones (might have) happened to lack the protection every child needs at that period of their lives. So while I condemn child molesters, I don't completely lack the ability to understand their behaviors and sympathize with them. I do despise them for doing these things to innocent children but I don't think of them as non-redeemable, you could say. I simply dislike the notion of subjecting judgment and punishment on people irrespective of their past experiences and their ability to 'heal' and integrate normally in society. Give them a chance, and then pass judgment on them, not the other way around. It's this perpetual lack of empathy that makes this issue grow worse and worse with time because people see it in black and white. Kill all the pedophiles and the problem disappears right? Absolutely not. Society the way it is will keep making it harder and harder for these people to seek help and eventually become unable to control their impulses. Treat them like humans, and maybe they will feel like humans and stop acting like monsters.
I didn't find the show entertaining due to its dark subject matter. But I think the shows producers had good intentions. And the criminals definitely needed to be caught.
Is like if someone showed off offering me a joint for free, then I let him in my house but before Im given any weed I get arrested for drug posesion instead.
No, it's more in line with you offering to give a kid some drugs, arrange to meet said kid at his/her home when you know their parents won't be around, then when you arrive you get arrested for trying to give FUCKING DRUGS TO A KID. These people were preying on children, trying to orchestrate some sort of sexual situation with kids. But for the sake of your stupid argument, if having an intention of acquiring marijuana is illegal then regardless of if you got set up by a tv show, you would have still been breaking the law.
Bryan They have convos, digital documentation of their gross intentions too. So what the fuck with this "enticement" shit? The decoys don't initiate, nor do they push. They only respond.
The Murphy, TX residents who were upset were not thinking very clearly. The predators weren't being lured there to come set up shop but to be confronted and arrested for their crimes. That would probably DETER predators from coming to Murphy, TX. After the cases were stupidly thrown out of court that sent the message that Murphy was soft on sexual predators
Entrapment is NEVER "entrapment" if you're guilty! If you're guilty and caught, you're guilty no matter HOW YOU'RE CAUGHT! PERIOD! We need justice for the VICTIMS and NOT the PERPS!!!
Hey, a predator is a predator. Whatever, it only shows one thing a lot of predators lurking around the media, law enforcement etc.thats why there's no support, they killed the show.
Chris actually didn’t actually save any kids’ lives as all the predators he caught was on a setup environment and there was no argument to prove that those predators would’ve actually raped the kids in real life scenarios, that’s why all the cases were dismissed by the court. Courts give verdict only for happened incidents not for incidents which are assumed or more likely to take place !! But , crimes that Chris did were of measurable nature in real life with no setups and there are no reasons they could be justified by his “so-called” good deeds which actually didn’t achieve any real life good for any single kids .
Idk why anyone is arguing that this show is bad. They are exposing rapist and pedos. Honestly if you find this bad you are possibly a predator as well..
I think the legal dispute is they kind of broke the chain of custody for evidence because they are not police themselves or whatever. I mean it's kind of goofy since that means good Samaritans can't stop criminals either or some such if that's the actual reason the cases were thrown out or anything.
As many mistakes as they made in "To Catch A Predator", it definitely spread awareness to citizens and fear among pedophiles. In "Hanson vs Predator" many of the predators were far more hesitant to go because they had watched the show.
The vast majority of child molestation is committed by someone the child knows, usually a family member. All this did was perpetuate the idiotic stereotype that your child will be safe if you keep him away from creepy guys with white vans, and add to it an irrational fear of all interaction over the internet.
+Yonkage , +Matthew Hinchberger +TheProclaimed it does happen. Some girls lie about their age on adult dating sites, it's happened to a friend of mine. Also when I was A young teenager there were always a few girls with boyfriends between 18-35 at 13 yrs old. Almost every school would have a teacher who would date underage girls. It's much harder now for them to get away with it because of the "Over-Hyped" fear.
It didn't used to happen over the internet. Mainly because the internet wasn't so huge 15 or so years ago. I have a stepsister who wound up _marrying_ the bald ugly pedo in her life. (He got her knocked up.) No internet involved. Your analogy doesn't really work. The predator trolling method, to my knowledge, simply involves registering a profile on an adult website with a child's age... or going into chat and saying something to the effect of "i'm 13 lel" Which would more or less equate to said drug sting cop saying to a crowd "excuse me, sirs and madams, would any of you care to partake in some... drugs?"
WTF DID THEY JUST COMPARE CHEATING TO PEDOPHILIA?!!! SERIOUSLY WTF!!! Also how'd they "drop the ball" by not firing him...im just pretty mad they made the comparison of adultery and PEDOPHILIA!!!
This was like the first show to bring awareness to how dangerous online strangers can be and helped a lot in terms of safety AND caught dirtbags in the act....and we are gonna roast it?
NumBxDino :3 Chris actually didn’t actually save any kids’ lives as all the predators he caught was on a setup environment and there was no argument to prove that those predators would’ve actually raped the kids in real life scenarios, that’s why all the cases were dismissed by the court. Courts give verdict only for happened incidents not for incidents which are assumed or more likely to take place !! But , crimes that Chris did were of measurable nature in real life with no setups and there are no reasons they could be justified by his “so-called” good deeds which actually didn’t achieve any real life good for any single kid.
I'm not completely against the show but it was very cheaply and sloppily done. Chris Hansen was not the right man for the job either. He wasn't all that witty and missed a lot of good opportunities to point things out mistakes the predators made. Also, he used the word thunk once too. That word has never even been in my vocabulary once before
I honestly don't care how these predators are caught. They are attempting to commit a crime so despicable, so heinous that even other hardened criminals look down on them and have had a long history of killing them once they are thrown in prison. They are the scum of the earth, and deserve nothing but the harshest punishment possible under law. And honestly, who cares that Chris Hansen cheated on his wife? People cheat all the time. I'm not saying that it's a good thing to cheat on someone, but you certainly can't compare his misdeeds to those of the predators he was trying to catch. I'd watch a new series with him as the host any day.
I understand your perspective, but it's kinda misguided. No matter the nature of a crime, all suspects are entitled to things like a fair trial, freedom from cruel and unusual punishment, and the position of being innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. And most importantly, that the investigation against them remain within the boundaries of due process. It's not meant to protect heinous criminals. It's meant to protect innocent people who are accused of being heinous criminals. Whereby, all suspects, regardless of the crime in question, are entitled to the equal treatment.
Everyone is looking for someone to look down on in order to feel that they're 'not so bad' in comparison. It's human nature, especially when talking about the lowest people on the rung. I don't think it justifies their behavior. We can't help what we are. You can't chose your thoughts before you think them. You can choose whether to act out on them and in our culture it's illegal so they deserve to be punished....but not to be tortured or killed.
I'm sorry, we might disagree, but there is nothing more heinous, disturbing, or digusting than torturing and killing another human being. I wish this show could have been "How to catch a murderer" so that they could have actually saved some lives...
Joanna F. yes it would be nice to wonder why people have a problem with the sexual deviants that prey on 13yr Olds getting rekt..... hmmmmmm It's cause they are one themselves or have family or friends or have taken part themselves in this pedophilia. they can't handle not being the perfect sociopath. so they want to lessen the demonization of such behavior.
Of course they deserve justice. Child molesters are human beings, and so the way we treat them affects society at large. If child molesters are not put on trial then the full extent of their crimes cannot be thoroughly observed. I think the victims of sexual abuse deserve to be heard and THEN supported. Otherwise, you're looking beyond the victim and just releasing your anger out on the molester. Which has it's place, but don't think that simply doing so offers any help to those who suffer with experiences of childhood sexual abuse.
Enticement? I don't think so, you could not entice me to have sex with a minor with anything you had to offer. Damn, I'm 64 and have trouble seeing a 20 year old girl as an adult.
But did anyone really care about catching predators or only did it for the ratings. If ratings were low and no money was rolling in would the people working in the show care about catching predators. That's the point.
@@johnjohno410 well if they weren't making money they wouldn't do the show because they need money to live. Not because they don't like catching those people.
John Johno Does it really matter WHY in this instance? They’re doing a good thing, and not hurting anyone in the process. Who gives a damn if it’s for money.
Nolan if the money wasn't there I wonder would the people in this show go out of their way to still catch them or start a fundraiser to keep the show going to keep catching pedos.
Kieo Feels like they were going after small fish when they should of targeted pedo rings and the more twisted ones interested in infants and small children.
Chris Hansen had an affair with a 30 year old. You can't compare that with trying to have a sexual tryst with a 12 year old. NO COMPARISON.
charlotte graham i agree, charlotte
agreed. at the same time though any cheater is a piece of shit. and hansen deserves that blow since he's always hitting below the belt on his program. calling people out on irrelevant things. like on guy had a t-shirt on that was affiliated with MIT and he was a math teacher and hansen said, look at that tshirt he's got on, it's typically worn by students who go to MIT, but [predator name] didn't go to MIT he went to a SMALL college in NY.
charlotte graham no comparison except for that age difference, jesus
Random Guy
If thats how you feel about your kids thats cool, do you bro.
@Random Guy well aren't you an edge Lord! 😂
I don't care if they did it for money as long as you catch pedophiles ....I dont care about exposing pedophiles . f'em
exactly 👏🏽💯
I swear man...every tv show wants ratings but somehow it was seen as negative. This is the only country that can turn child molesters into victims
no one here or on this show turns "child molesters into victims". STFU and STFD.
learn to write in complete sentences and spell check. I don't know what you're trying to say whereas I got my point across.
if your point is, your a dumb fuck, then yes, your point is made bitch boy
Cheating on your wife is bad , but being a predator is obviously worse. It didn't ruin the shows creditability.
Yeah his personal infidelities don't make him a hypocrite, people act like he hosted "to catch an adulterer".
what the guy forgot to mention in the video is that the woman he was cheating on was 21 years younger then him. Thats where the show credibility could come into question.
***** thats true but Hanson has made the argument in a lot of these cases of asking the men " Cant you find a girl your own age " and with this getting out those words lose credibility.
***** the predators could use the argument that Hanson is no different from them messing around with a woman that's MUCH younger then him and ABC dose not want that plausibility used ageist there star reporter for these investigation.
***** /Facepalm.... you have a one track mind dont you..... No one is defending pedophiles
Chris Hansen in my opinion is a hero. Period.
Factz 💯 I don't feel sorry for these perverted people but they should do shows on predator women
@@NipplesOfDestiny poor soldiers, never been mentioned😒
Mike g did you even watch the video?
@@mikeg5425 lmao?
Don’t cheat on your wife like he did and don’t write bad cheques . That’ll do 👍🏼
I see nothing wrong
Chris Hansen have a seat right over there
Chris Hansen i have some questions for you....
Chris Hansen keep up the great work
Please put down your phone
Well I think you have to see something wrong talking to a girl you think is 13 years old sir
I don't give a shit if it was ratings-centric or sketchy. It was entertaining, and publicly put shitty people on blast, which was awesome.
How many kids would otherwise got hurt without that program ? I still remember the guy that had his trunk full of "kidnapping" materials, with horror.
In the end, that show did way more good than harm.
+Roberth Pilesund
exactly. maybe it made some creep think twice and decide to not go to some ACTUAL kid's house.
Exactly. i liked the show
johnmburt1960 Your point?
johnmburt1960: Agreed, entertainment value should not be the forefront of anybody's mind. I just want bad people stopped. Do some honest detection, prove if the suspect has criminal intent, bag him. I don't need to see the justice _unfold_ to serve my own hunger. The show felt cringy to me and the only reason these people sought out children was to serve their own urge I doubt they had much control over.
I'm aware the States doesn't much help rehabilitate or improve most criminals in any way, but the show need only focus on the capturing, not the luring, or the gloating from the host.
"A segment similar to his own?". A cheating spouse is nowhere near a paedophile crime.
thats just what a cheating spouse would say
TheTenthHead
So explain how being unfaithful to your wife is similar to having sex with children. Note: one is illegal one isn’t.
To be fair, adultery was illegal for a long time, and probably still should be. That said, statutory rape is definitely far worse than nefarious consensual sex.
Coupledyeti Vonvanderburg
In the USA adultery is still is illegal (usually a misdemeanour with a tiny fine), whereas in Europe it is mostly legalised. On the other hand, sex with a minor is illegal everywhere (except the Muslim world) and even can carry a life sentence.
It's not illegal in all states. Only some states.
"Did To Catch a Predator perform a public service, or was it just another ratings-hungry reality series?"
It was both. Those two things are not necessarily in conflict.
Finally, someone with common sense.
I hate people that ask ultimatum questions like that, good comment
Absolutely
yes
If anything about this is ratings hungry then they are not doing it for the right reasons to actually solve a problem or heal it has to because you want to not because of money or tv or any other reason other wise your not helping at all.
YOU TALKING SMACK ABOUT ME?
Lol!
Are the cookies ok?
Try again
Oh no it's Chris Hansen!
Nope.😀
A pedo is a pedo. I don't care If they begged them to come over. Any normal person wouldn't have driven 2 hours to go knock the door of a 12 year old.
LuNaTiC GR they deserve to be punished, but broadcasting it for the world to see and treating the pedos like animals is completely inhumane
Yahtzee you know what else is inhumane? fucking children.
Yahtzee nah, i say expose them all
pedos who act on it are animals.
wtf are you on m8
But the problem is the law where you can't "force" them into the situations but some others say its enticement it depends on the judge and what he/she decides on it.
Looper probably almost walked into one of those houses I bet
lmao
Why don't you take a seat over there?
Says the fucktard with the Ron Jeremy profile pic...get lost, you no-life, lowlife troll !!!
Damn, he went there
And this is coming from Ron Jeremy
This show should have never ended. It was a great deterrent for sickos and super entertaining.
It wouldn't have if Chris and his crew knew how to manage money. He is in jail for bounced checks used for the show (like high class Hotels etc).
If he would have settled down for cheaper Motels and co he might be still in Business with a show / gather money for a 3rd reinstallment.
Maybe when he Comes out of jail… but he also is responsible for cyber crime by falseflagging other catch a predator youtuber formats that were not made by him.
ForumcoldiArchon His charges were dropped
At least two people were caught by the show twice. Many of the people who were caught after the show became popular were familiar with the show. Many even suspected that they were being set up. How exactly do you define "Deterrent"?
Chris Hansen has a pretty interesting show here on RUclips if you're interested. I've been enjoying it.
Predators know better than to walk into houses now
Honestly i just like to see the look on the guys faces when they get caught
+Bill Maze ...does it matter?
Trundeling Porpoise I dunno, but be honest.
+dmed what's wrong with that?
The problem is that they are not caught doing anything....there was no actual crime because the scenario did not allow for anything illegal...Just because they "thought" they were about to do something illegal doesn't mean its a crime when no underage person was involved.
so you would rather them have sex with children tell they one day if ever get caught.sorry but letting that happen is all kinds of wrong. when you can put an actor that looks like a kid be in a chat room and let the perverts start the chat then let him start talking about sex then the pervert wants to come over.comes inside and the police are waiting sounds much better to me. if your kid was in this Scenario at what point would you call the cops? when you found out an adult was knowingly having chat sex with your little girl?when you find out that the guy hasn't touched her yet but has been talking with her outside after school?well maybe it will take you coming home and finding the guy having sex with your kid or worse yet you come home and your kid is gone? .....the fact is it is not real to me but it is damn sure very real to the guys they step inside that door its game over they broke a few laws. this show might have stopped a murder or rapes of children..thats how this show got started victims and familys of victims started this
only in modern America do we attack shows that expose sexual predators.
Trump is the president. It's pretty obvious Americans have no fucking clue.
We attack the show because of its vigilante justice. They decide who is guilty, that is not how american law works. These men might be pedophiles, but purely being a pedophile is not illegal. Having sex with someone underage is illegal. These men were trying to do something illegal but never did it. In America, for the most part, that means it is not illegal. The show also ruins these men's lives, which is why people sue them. There is a strong argument to be made that it was the adraneline rush of getting a child to agree to have sex with you, which is not illegal, and then going to the house is just a stronger adrenaline rush. These men might have no desire to have sex, but could just like the idea of it, and that is not harmful to someone nor is it illegal.
i smell a lawsuit
so attempted murder and attempted robbery is legal?
Trump being president doesnt have anything to do with unconvicted pedophiles.
This show should have aired forever
Agreed
Just like rescue 911
Yea dis show should have aired forever. i wholeheartedly 102% agree! Dis show was dope!!!
Really? Doesn't that mean you want an endless supply of predators?
@@baishihua i dont know if you are aware but there are ALOT of predators out there.
"On a segment similar to his own" is it me or is cheating on your wife for another WOMAN and cheating on your wife for a KID completely different
I was about to comment on that point. You're right; Hanson had an affair. BFD! What, the Network cared about Moral$?!
But it does look bad, as the guy passes like the most moral and law abiding dude and all, then he goes cheating on his wife. Looks kinda awkward.
@Danica Ingrao yeah but it's seen badly by people. Especially from someone making a career out of teaching moral lessons and avoid wrong sexual desires and all
@@JSB-2Z-2K Cheating on your wife is totally different than raping an underage child.
Cheating on your wife is breaking a promise. Raping an underage child is raping an underage child
Not really...Cheaters are SCUM
The guy that killed himself was a district attorney...That's probably why he did it.
Mark Gray pedophiles are everywhere, ESPECIALLY in the higher tiers of society. #PIZZAGATE
Absolutely
Occupy Edge bro saying pizza gate is just like saying Russians hacked the election.
Have you seen how many arrests have been made around the country in the past months?
Multibears fan No, dumbass, no. Pizzagate is real, ever read the Podesta e-mails? Russian hacking is a charade to get people's minds off of the pizzagate investigation.. and thanks to many gullible dumbasses it worked!
Why u tryna dig up dirt on me ;-;
Snake Eyes True
Said no one ever. Nope. Not even close.
No one is denying that women are predators too. Just that there aren't as many as there are male predators
Why Don't you take a seat over there Chris.
Chris is a cheater
Are we supposed to feel sorry for predators? They are removing people that are dangerous for children, good job!
Exactly. Chris is a hero.
y'all got something wrong in your head? You just saw the consequences of having a show like this. It was in fact counter productive. All in the name of views and ratings to make money. Hansen is no hero, he just thinks you're enough of a shmuck.
@@TheDerrickLipschitz Okay predator
@@TheDerrickLipschitz you cant blame Hansen for this. it the choice of the predators. Nobody force them to come. sooo
I don't feel bad for them but this isn't the way to do it and most we're setup. How many times do I have to point out about what happened to their families. You cant turn a blind eye just because of them being a predator. I want them put away too but not like this. AGAIN!!!!!!!!!! What do you think happened to their children at school? How about their wives. Lots of cant even get a job. Put them a way but not by plastering their face all over the word so NBC can get a profit.
"Looper, have a seat."
Right! is this a pedophile defense segment?
😂😂
"What was your plan here tonight? "
@@jyoti61948net 😂😂😂
Jyoti Patil just chill, watch some football
Chris Hansen should start a new series - "To Catch a Predator: Vatican City."
No, then the Pope would be caught and that wouldn't be good for his image.
Bro. This isn't a daily TV series. They only need one person every few weeks.
Big mouth lol
Set the whole city on fire 🤣
Lol..... shit they couldn't keep up
you know what? i dont want this cookie..
but i made it for you special (watches you intently)
I always wondered if those cookies were any good or not
What? No way.
me too
No,please...have a seat,lol
Sounds like all the complaints are coming from people afraid they'll be exposed next lol
Justin Graves no the show just sucks
Grow the fuck up, you spastic. People should be allowed to critize things without being accused of being pedophiles. Just because some might object to the certain way some things are being done or the motives of some reality show, doesn't mean you have to immediately accuse them of being kid rapists, ya fuckin brick brain piece of shit.
Haha a lot of predictors on this comment 😂😂😂
Yep
You miss the point that some underage boys and girls want to have sex with people they meet online. This TV show did nothing to stop,that because there were no real underage people involved, at all, in anyway.
Toss this whole video out, your points are wack. Chris Hansen did a movement on Internet safety for young girls/boys and the public
My guy, i love the show. But the fact you want someone to take a video out shows how insecure you are about your opinion. This video highlighted the other side of the coin beatifully. You getting mad over it and react in a fanboyish way doesn't help its case
Have a seat over there plz 👉🏻
If you don’t want to be shown as a child predator on television, don’t be a child predator.
That show was funny. Him reading their chats, them bringing weird shit, and the cops tackling the shit out of them lol.
Chris : Did you say " I can't wait to tongue that little butthole like a Hershey kiss ? "
Pedophile : * awkwardly * yea
The best episodes were the first ones where the pedophiles think they can just walk out and go home.
Rob Lena yes! Hanson always makes it seem they are free to go and "he won't stop them" lol
This shit made me bust out laughing.
the first ones they actually DID get to walk out and go home. Before they got the police involved.
Yeah Looper, I don't think people agree with you on this one.
There not trying to make anyone agree or disagree with anything there discussing the reason tcap got cancelled .
Nick Bruno I always thought this show had something unethical about it
@Nick Bruno The sheer fact that with the right amount of money you can bend the rules makes your argument irrational.
No one is clean
@@user-vm9sz6l02q Stay away from children
You DO NOT diss my boy Chris Hansen you hear me?
exactly!
Your profile pic fits this comment
The way i see it Chris Handsome you got two choices, we can do this the easy way or we can do it the hard way.
i dont wanna be on camera, dawg!
+10000 for the Boondocks reference
>=) thx guys
i likes you and I wants you
Oh okay, I see you choosin' the hard way.
This was a fantastic series...these adults had no business talking to children in such an explicit manner, and exposed a very serious issue. I hope that Hansen vs Predator keeps doing more episodes.
They had no business talking to someone that young period.
Regardless if he cheated on his wife. That was his personal business. Not ours. We were in no way harmed because of his screw up.
However, if a predator is in our towns preying on our children then that is our business.
Those that claim that they were "set up" or "yeah, spend lots of $ to lock them up" or even that Hansen spent donated $ to do the show ... I think I'd rather see predators caught & put behind bars no matter the $.
Are you going to put a price on your kids to keep them safe?
There is no telling that if these had not of been decoys, what would have actually happened if they were children.
The way that I see it is that at least one child has been saved from a lifetime of mental torment.
The USA is the only non-Islamic/Western Hemispheric country who thinks adultery is of any concern beyond the family circle. It's rooted in this country's obsession with taking religion out of the churches and applying its outmoded standards to secular matters.
Troy Evitt Religion is the only means of just. It’s common sense to NOT CHEAT ON YOUR SPOUSE THAT YOU VOWED TO BE WITH FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE UNTIL DEATH. I didn’t know that they hold these sorts of ceremonies for pedophiles too.
If you want safety you should donate to psychologists trying to solve the problem. It’s like trying to individually squish the fleas on my dog rather than treating it with medicine to get rid of all of them
Ramadan Steve wow never thought of it that way.
When married people cheat on their spouses we as a society are harmed by this , because of our apathy, the moral fabric our country was built on is breaking down more every day. We almost have no moral compass. A lot of people have become cheaters, liars and downright disgusting, thieves, and pilagers. And those who have children are teaching this to their kids, inadvertently. Hey but who cares right because it's none of our business......SMDH....
aannnd I’m done with this channel...
Chris got caught with a beautiful lady,ok cheating on his Wife,but that's nothing like those perverts,he be nabbing.I like Chris.
And its Not even Entrapment. If you read the chatlogs it goes like this
Decoy: *Builds a MySpace accnt. Puts 13 on age*
Pedo: *Barges in outa nowhere* Cool if a 34 yr old Talks to you?
Decoy: Sure.
Pedo: Do you masturbate? Any hair down their?
Decoy: I suppose.
Pedo: Dont tell your parents. Oh and are you a cop?
@Jeremy Gavilan you wouldn't say this if the majority of the people caught were Black.
Jeremy Gavilan but they do try to take advantage of kids
Ah ha, I bet Chris got caught on Cheaters! This was his revenge. Lol
Jeremy Gavilan you’re stupid bro they deserve it for trying to entice a minor
Alot of pedophiles admitted of being so scared to be caught in that show. So It was working and minimizing crimes against innocent children 👍
Most importantly, that show help shed light on the danger of online sexual predators and catfishes
@@romelo1201 this generation has no childhood. Why a kid is on social media anyway?
True datt
They were scared because their lives got ruined.
There is nothing similar about having a relationship with a woman and having a relationship with a child. You have to be kidding me.
Both are illegal, both are immoral.
Neither one is comparable to one another
@@geordiezinn7475 what planet do you live on? Its not illegal to have an affair with an ADULT. Cant say that for middle east but in general, its not illegal to cheat on your spouse- its just a grounds for divorce
@@rize-ikuza actually in Some American States it's illegal.
@@geordiezinn7475 By God's law adultery is going against the law but not by the law of the land so someone can't be thrown in jail for doing it. Comparing something that he did with a woman to child sexual assault is wrong in itself.
I mean so many of the people caught admitted to being scared of literally being on the show. So I'd say it's effective.. even though... they still showed up. I just mean at least it struck fear into predators and possibly prevented some from taking that step and making the drive to the house. Plus it's entertaining as crap to watch lol
@CriticalThinkerZ no offense but the fact they actually showed up to the house in the first place is reason enough for them to get heat for it
stopped them from going to that house, that time. Bless the lord for CH stopping an imaginary child from being abused. Now how about the rest after? have any sympathy for them?
Chris Hanson is a legend respect bro
INDEED
Looper like: "We dont like To Catch a Predator because it exposes predators, and our entertainment industry's full of them."
Yet almost no one actually caught in these stings was in that industry.
@@wylier Unfortunately. It's a shame so many get away with it.
Bill Clinton and Donald Trump have flown to Epstein’s chomo island
@Brutus Tan But he was a graphic artist of some sort for that network, and he had no direct contact with the young talent used on that network. He probably never even touched anyone underage in real life.
I don’t think Looper took that stance at all. They seemed like they didn’t really take a side either way- they just reported on public opinion. In a pretty unbiased way if you ask me.
1. Don't go meet underage kids over the internet for sex.
Easy steps for no ending up on the show.
nunya baznus I feel kinda funny about the idea of entrapment. Its like saying its OK to do something THAT YOU FULLY UNDERSTAND IS ILLEGAL as long as you were tricked into it by law enforcement or the government... like really? That sounds nutty. Its almost like the idea implies that if anyone was given the opportunity who knew the laws then in the same situation, they'd have sex with underage people. Um... no... I do understand there is a rule against entrapment, I just think its stupid. Maybe there is something I'm missing, but when someone says "hey this is illegal, do not ever do that" and you decide "hey, I'm going to do that thing"... come on...
entrapment??? oh god quit protecting them with the excuses.
nunya baznus That's a bullshit example. These guys go into chat rooms looking to fuck children and then go expecting to fuck children. The student in your example goes to hang out with older kids, but that could mean anything.
nunya baznus Well, for one thing, Dateline works WITH the police, so the police are also their doing their job, too. I'm still stuck at the point where people who are getting caught on this show clearly had every intention of fucking children based on overwhelming amounts of evidence, and no amount of going entrapment makes me believe that these guys wouldn't have raped the shit out of little girls and boys if Chris Hansen and the police weren't actually there. People who are not child rapist will NEVER be "entrapped" in these scenarios, period. You can't walk up to a random person who has no interest or a strong aversion to fucking children and then magically convince them to meet a 13 year old girl home alone for sex using some mental voodoo. Every time I think of entrapment, I just think its bullshit. DO NOT DO THINGS THAT ARE ILLEGAL. What part of that is hard to understand?
nunya baznus OK, so just answer this. Why is it that you should be allowed to do something that you know ahead of time is illegal but you have been lured into it? For context, why should you be able to solicit sex with a minor and travel to their house for sex, which is illegal and everyone knows this, but have it thrown out because you were "tricked" into it? Are they really tricked? Maybe I'm missing something but I've thought about this many times and I don't get it.
"To Catch a Predator caused a suicide of a predator."
*G O O D ! ! !*
@Karmacoma issa loss for me bc i couldn't be the one to kill him
Totally I mean people really need to see it in the way that it's either a predator gets to a child and traumatises him or her for life and their family, or either even does it for years until he gets caught and kills himself in jail and potentially traumatises multiple children , I do understand that for these people's family it's also tragic either way and I absolutely consider the fact that these people have some sort of disorder and need to get a therapy, but in the end most cases are lost cases ...
Completely agree! tbh I’m pro death penalty for convicted peadophiles ! If they know what they’re doing is wrong and chosen to do it anyway. Instead of handing themselves in to get help (although I don’t believe they can really be rehabilitated.) then in my opinion they should be shot. They are the rot in society. To put it another way. If you had an apple tree and part of it began to decay. Would you let the decay spread and destroy the other apples? No you’d get rid of the rot! End
w7lves what episode was it
@@hughballs idk lel
I think you’re defending the predators by bashing Cris Hansen. Give your head a shake
synchromorph not at all, he’s name is Scott as in MICHAEL SCOTT
So if I help track down predators, no one can bash me without defending them as well... sounds like a master plan.
@synchromorph +1
@synchromorph r/im15andthisisdeep. We get it, you hate your parents and you get bullied a lot in school.
@synchromorph >I would have stomped you >you're hiding behind a computer screen. Yeah you were either bullied hard or were a bully. Probably both since you talk mad shit to everyone and cry when you get it back.
The whole publicly exposed thing is kinda BS, if they were busted in a normal police sting they'd have to register as a sex offender and that info would be public anyways.
kyle Benjamin EXACTLY!
I live in a state where the age of consent is 16 and sex offenders aren't required to publicly announce it and I believe if you go to prison and serve your time it should end there once you get out you shouldn't be put on some list and loss your rights
kyle Benjamin kinda weird that they're working hand in hand with the police tho 🤔 so your point is invalid
kyle Benjamin Most of these guys were well aware that they could be met by Chris Hansen but they showed up anyway
But this causes a legal problem as it can cause bias in people who are chosen to be part of a jury
Brilliant show. They need to start airing more episodes.
They have. The latest episode aired last night.
I totally agree...
The new season started about a month ago. It was funded by kick-starter. It's called "Hansen vs Predator".
yeah its a segment on a show called crime watch daily that he hosts
Did you even watch the video? It mentions both Hanson vs Predator and Crime Watch Daily.
You are a legend Chris Hansen! You prevented so many predators from potentially causing harm to minors. People don’t realise how much influence this guy had. He saved lives from being ruined
Yeah, fake lives. Lol
Haha good one. But you know what I mean.
Exactly, he prevented nothing. It was all an elaborate trap with fabricated "13 year olds."
I give him credit in preventing some lives but in the grand scale all that he did was earn lots of dollars in the process. In fact predators seeing the show might refine their methods.
Bori Slav bet you talk to 13 year olds
take a seat...take a seat right over there
we could do this the easy way or the hard way, the choice is yours.
I came here looking for booty
hey im just finishing up my laundry real quick i made some cookies and lemonade go ahead i will out in second....hahaha
Howard Anthony
uh hhhhmmmmm take your time.
"I know you who are, Chris Hanson. But, I calls you Chris Handsome. I watch your show all the time, so you can go ahead and bring out them cameras and police that's waiting outside. It don't make me no difference. I like you, and I want you. And we can do this the easy way or the hard way. Choice is yours."
"I don't think you and I will be doing ANYTHING any kind of way."
"...Okay, so I see you choosing the hard way."
“Did to Catch a Predator perform a public service, or was it just another ratings- hungry reality series?”
These aren’t mutually exclusive concepts.
Technically no, but the word "just" implies that.
Wow, the people commenting below defending or saying that these people committed no crime. What the actual fuck. Intent is intent. If this wasn't a sting operation, who knows who's child could have been raped and/or killed
Let's give a little reality check on your integrity.
I think you're aware that most comments refer to these men as "sick fucks", "disgusting" and "deserving to die."
No one's actually saying that these "pedoes" haven't committed a crime.
The question at hand is, is the motivation of TCaP to protect the public or to gain favors as a t. v. series?
vids2002 that shitty logic goes both ways. If there wasn't a sting operation, who knows if these people would have ever gotten invited to a kids house (the answer is likely no, judging by the amount of reported instances of this unlikely crime fabricated by dateline)
They are sick fucks, disgusting, and deserve to die.
As paraded the 1950's homophobic bigots.
See how easy that was?
The crime was the entrapment by the pigs.
Service or ratings?
Yes, and yes.
So what?
If you're a predator you don't get privacy
Laura Hales i mean, innocent until proven guilty?
Ken M if he shows intent... then NO
I too hate the constitution and rule of law. We should have the right to lynch them for mere allegations too.
Andrew Hooper ??
what about Snow Leopards? nobody knew they existed until a few years ago.
The suicide was in Texas where it is illegal to have sexual chats with presumed minors, regardless if they meet or not.
What I think of to catch a predator??? I think it's friggin awesome!!'
Lps Renegade u said it
*thought
Yep. It is good they catch such people
So yeah.
To catch a predator: Priest edition, this would give Chris enough materiel to work with for the next 3 decades.
If he went after teachers he'd have enough until the end of time
The show was a service. Every one of those men name, shamed and charged was a predator. I don't care what methods they used to get them.
Then you are a fascist who is many times more dangerous and immoral then the men you are talking about. Due process is a seriously important facet of justice, and to allow if you "don't care what methods they used" then you are justifying a fascist police state that has the right to do anything. Good thing we have a constitution to protect us from authoritarian self righteous morons like yourself.
You sound like you're defending the predators lmao
bucket foot-bullshit. those guys were caught dead to rights trying to fuck under aged kids. they put their necks in the noose to satisfy their own perversions. don't blame the people trying to get them off the street and away from kids. you're very foolish if you think they're innocent and i hope your kids never experience what these creeps are capable of. fascism? bullshit. they didn't drag them out in the street and stone them to death (although, that's not a bad idea) they went to jail . you are truly an idiot if you think that.
NO ONE IS DEFENDING PEDOPHILES
What people are arguing is that even though they're caught in the act, we can't just go and off someone because of a fucking tv show. The U.S has a thing called due process. Murderers go through it, thieves go through it, and yes surprise surprise PEDOPHILES GO THROUGH DUE PROCESS TOO! I don't get how any sane person can use "The end justifies the means" bullshit. You know who uses that logic? ISIS, you know who else used it? The KKK.
I'm not saying what the pedophiles did was right, but what I am saying is that you're worse than the pedophiles for ignoring basic human rights.
+zippity
Since the pedophiles are at fault for getting caught is it safe to say that it's the minor's fault for getting molested? Serious question because by your logic the answer is yes.
stefano crispi- even you are calling them pedophiles. so you know they're guilty too. think about that. in cases like this-all the justice system does is give them the chance to waste tax payer money, get a slap on the wrist and boom-they're back out there doing it again.please don't twist my words around to suit your misinformed logic. the victims are never to blame. no kid deserves this- no matter how curious they are or lonely or whatever their issue is. they're inexperienced and don't fully understand the danger they put themselves in. you're really ignorant for saying that.and you have a warped mind-please don't speak to me again-i'm not wasting any more words on the likes of a manipulative child rapist supporter.
So taking out predators is now controversial? What is wrong with people nowadays?
Attack Helicopter Well in Texas not one of the people caught were charged. All this video pointed out was the issues the show had. It never said it didn't do a good service, just showed stuff people might not have known.
Attack Helicopter
Maybe try watching the video next time numbnuts?
Taking out pedos is all well and good but the method is slippery as Looper did provide the question of whether entrapment is possible.
Should the media really be doing this shit, especially since it lines their pockets based on the ratings?
Think about it for more than a second
At the end of the day... Adult men/women who show perversion to underage kids should be exposed. Period. It ain't that hard to understand. Fuck child predators.
My nigga
I think it was more about how NBC was making money off such dirty business, and their abnormal proximity, for a tv broadcaster, to every step of the process that went into baiting/arresting these people.
"exposed" to whom? The police, sure, but if you are willing to ruin their lives via nationwide broadcast why not stop pretending and just line them up against a wall and shoot them? It would probably be less painful.
You can always tell who the pedophiles are on these types of videos and articles. Can you guess how?
"It would probably be less painful." Why would you want it to be less painful??? You do realize that ALL these men think they're arriving at a THIRTEEN YEAR OLD GIRLS house TO HAVE SEX WITH HER, RIGHT??? i don't give a flying fuck about this whiny narrators whiny reasons this show is bad. The only thing that would've pissed me off is if it turned out to all be fake, and that all the men were just actors. Other than that, they all got what they deserved, including the public humiliation. It's not like there was any confusion whatsoever, AT ALL that this was a BABY GIRL that they were talking to about having sex with. The only thing that pissed me off with this show, was that some of the men weren't prosecuted..
Lukands, I've never replied to someone who is a pedo-apologist before, and I'm not going to start now. The reason I'm talking to you is because I think you'd've said the same thing no matter what kind of bad person we were talking about. However, you need to realize that pedophiles can't be "reformed", ever. There's no way to 'fix' them or 'rehab' them or anything else. Normal, grown up men and women are sexually attracted to other grown up men and women. No matter their 'sexuality', whether they're homosexuals or straight, they're sexually attracted to other grown ups. Pedophiles sexuality, (that means who they're sexually attracted to) is CHILDREN. That can't be fixed, and there's no drug or treatment program that can change that. It's the same thing with sociopaths. There's nothing that can be done to fix or rehab them either. The main difference between the two is that PEDOPHILES DON'T HAVE TO ACT ON THEIR SEXUAL URGES, YET THEY CHOOSE TO DO IT ANYWAY KNOWING IT'S WRONG AND THAT THEY'RE DESTROYING YOUNG CHILDREN'S LIVES.
And so that's why people feel so strongly that all pedo's that are caught should just be killed. They contribute NOTHING to society except to kill a child's innocence, peace, spirit, soul, mind, trust, and everything good in their little short lives. I'm seriously asking you how you can defend that? How is it that you're more worried for justice for this guy, how are you more worried about his pain than all the little girls he's hurt and will continue to hurt when he gets out of prison? I'm hoping you answer me.
"NBC is only obsessed with getting ratings"
-- CBS host looking for ratings
I thought the same thing. Dude was probably thinking “why didn’t i think of this first?”
Terrible video. I don't care how these men were caught. They were caught. That's all that matters.
harmless? pedophiles? do you hear yourself ?
If you want to fix overcrowded prisons than this show isn't where to look. Take a look at Black incarceration and the war on drugs and you'll find actual harmless criminals who have been fucked over long before they were born. Not surprised there's some jackass in here trying to defend the people out trying to abuse children. Sounds like you might be one of them.
This is not "vigilante justice." They do not lure people to a house and beat them, they hand everything over to police. As a former Perverted Justice volunteer myself, the organization is also *incredibly* scrupulous about its evidence procedures, in fact far more careful than many actual law enforcement agencies.
There's always some tryhard edgelord wanting to feel morally superior and hating on pedophiles is like the lowest hanging fruit lol if you're ok with this retarded brand of justice you should move to a country like guatemala or india where they will literally burn you alive on the streets for stealing food from a vendor.
***** "Retarded brand of justice?" You are aware that are cops waiting at the decoy house? To make normal legally binding arrests? All they're doing is documenting people saying incriminating shit, then handing the logs and the pedos over to police. There are no "vigilantes" taking it into their hands to punish anybody.
Predator becomes prey. That's just the natural order of things. Chris Hansen is higher up on the food chain than these guys.
Little Lynkx those caught on the show should only be on a chain gain for life.
True
why did yall put in the story about the dude killing himself like we're supposed to feel bad for him tf
jimin's tiny hands not to be that guy but wonhae manhi manhi manhi
2813308004 jones ok lol
jimin u got no jams
In all seriousness tho the fact that people sympathize with any of these people is so disgusting. I understand these men can't choose what their fetish is, and they can't help how they feel but just because they're into younger children doesn't mean they have to act on those fetishes. They all have an option to seek help and go to therapy, but instead they choose to take advantage of young teens and scar them for life once they realize how wrong it was.
Fuck 'em lol why do any of them deserve sympathy
pedophilia isnt a fetish but yeah i agree otherwise
The guy that killed himself did not act on his sexual desires. He did not show up to the house like the other predators, they tracked him down at his house and then he killed himself. There is every reason to believe that that one did not act on his impulses and would not have considering how they gave him a ridiculously easy opportunity to do it and he refused. I find it disgusting how people have no sympathy for a man, who nobody hear knows caused harm to anybody, who killed himself.
read some of the chat logs then say entrapment....
Exactly. All she says is "if you want."
plus the predators approach the decoys themselves!!! entrapment my ass
@dorothydreams oftornadoes Except that guy in the 2:17 section who committed suicide after the crew just went straight to the guy's house instead of waiting for him to take the situation offline.
It should be common knowledge that there are people who say they will do something while online but once they have to physically engage with it offline, reality hits and they don't actually do it.
What they did was irresponsible and undermines the show's purpose as a collection of undeniable evidence for successfully prosecuting a methodical pedophile.
Why do you think the 3:14 court case was thrown out? They acted too hastily, recklessly, and presumptuously. Didn't get enough evidence? Criminal will get away and learn to be more careful. Others will learn to be less fearful as they aren't thorough enough to win every court case.
@@LC-cp5lz You do realise the dude at 2:17 had already broken the law, right? His conversation online was already enough to arrest him.
Almost all of em are showing obvious signs of grooming too
perverts committing suicide? sounds pretty good to me!!
define pervert. hansen is out there lusting after other women when he's married. seems pretty perverted to me.
@MrLeermeister one of those things is consent and the other is being a cheating lying asshole. no one tricked these kids. they did it of their own free will. and if they just 2-3 years older its suddenly not illegal. how wise are you getting in 2-3 years exactly?
@@dynamo3059 Well that guy who commited suicide was found to have childporn,and dirty sexual chats with younger girls and hanson had an affair with a 30 year old women.I think I know which ones more perverted
Being that young you might think you know everything but you really don't and having some older person trying to groom you n stuff like that is wrong on so many levels. It doesn't matter if a 13 year old agrees to it . Doesn't make it ok . they're still being taken advantage of and thats how most kids go missing
Perverts not being perverts sounds even better
It's always different when you read the chat logs and listen to the phone conversations. There, they aren't some scared poor man being forced to do illegal activities, there they make sure to take precautions, that the decoy really is up for sex, and that grooming and manipulation tactics are really taking place.
I'm so glad I found your comment. I was looking for this in particular. I totally agree with you here! I hadn't seen much of this show to begin with but what I did see... and Ik it's controversial to say this but sometimes I'd find myself feeling a little bad for the guys. That is until I stumbled on a RUclipsr called Dave's Lemonade. He puts up all the chat logs & videos and then analyzes the hell out of both the chats and the sting house videos.
It was truly eye opening to read those chat logs and then see the original videos again, yet this time armed with a larger view of what brought these men to the house. I was in disbelief at what I was reading. Some people really are wolves in sheep's clothing.
You're right. These guys are definitely not scared poor men... that is until they realise they'd been caught by the very trap they were so cautious to not walk into.
I found it a little amusing that they'd ask the decoy to "swear you aren't a cop" or "swear it isn't a setup". Haha! What a strange question to ask. I mean, that's just illogical and generally speaking we should all follow our initial gut feeling and not walk into dangerous situations of any kind. However, having read the chats I had an overall sense of happiness that they managed to push through their fear and turned the volume down on their conscience enough to be caught.
These same men should've and easily could've been champions for our youth. Upon hearing their age (some only 12 years old) they could've just said be careful and goodbye. Individually they wouldn't have put a stop to this type of crime against children but they could have made a difference and it would've set an example. I'm glad the transcripts are available.
Negative attention my arse. This show is a justice to all the children out there who are abused by these sick twisted people. There should be more "NAME AND SHAME" shows like this to take these scum off our streets.
While I think it's safe to say we all feel that it is wrong, it does beg the question, that if these "children" are actively looking for sex, how much of a predator are you if the bait comes running to your arms?
While I like the idea that children should remain children and keep their innocence as long as possible, not that long ago in human history was the age of consent MUCH lower. It was not considered immoral for a 14 year old to marry and start a family. Not condoning any behavior, but just pointing out some food for thought. What exactly is a predator, what makes it immoral, and are we simply indoctrinated that this is wrong or is it truly wrong?
+Namron9797 I hear you mate, so true :)
+namron9797 I think you're absolutely right but sadly can we at least count on adults to act like adults? I figured someone would at least say "this is inappropriate therefore I will no longer engage in any conversion/whatever with you." I don't doubt some teenagers are looking for sex, I'm not surprised since hormones make them go crazy but I think an adult has more common sense
PreyForForgiveness
You'd be surprised what people will do when they think no one is looking or will find out. Humans are the most depraved creatures to have walked this planet.
It would be doing more justice for children if they would catch the real sickos, the millionaire & billionaire paedo-sadists who produce child porn and take child see slaves but that'd be too much work and not as profitable of a TV series
1) Someone who would sexually assault anyone, a child in particular should be water boarded every hour on the hour for the rest of their lives. The AMA has even stated it's an incurable condition. Oh and any sexual predator, be it of a child or not is welcome to off themselves any time they wish, trust me, we won't miss ya.
2) It is not entrapment, the same way an officer offering to buy drugs from a dealer isn't. Your not suggesting they commit a crime, your just providing a scenario where they can choose to or not to and then acting accordingly.
3) Criminals need to be exposed, if that drives ratings, I say great, because it just gives them incentive to keep exposing them.
It may not be curable but there are some people who have changed in a sense.
Thats not good enough when your dealign with filth like this.
Lochen Dude They aren't being charged with talking dirty to a minor, they're being charged with Intent to have sex with a minor
I wouldn't consider it . entrapment. In all of these cases, the person caught was the who initiated the convo, & they had evidence of their plans. One guy even got caught twice.
a day after he got caught & had a court date, in fact. the naked dude turned into the McD's 'I was getting something to eat!' dude. Fucker. They need to play this show on a continuous loop in prisons so the other prisoners see what they look like in case one of them shows up some day...
I suppose that's how it began but I'm really suspicious of how it went about later.. like did they begin enticing people when the inflow subsided?
The main reason why it's not entrapment is because law enforcement doesn't interact with these people until they've already committed a crime.
Perverted Justice operated with or without the police or the show. NBC, Perverted Justice, and the police operated in concert with one another for TCAP, but these were never instances of law enforcement enticing anyone to break the law. In the states the show operated in, it was illegal to solicit sex from a minor. These men committed a crime in the privacy of their own homes. Once they ended up on the doorstep of a person they thought was a child, they were basically digging a deeper grave. The police were merely there lying in wait.
"Two words: Roleplaying Chatroom"
@@kajiko88 Which one?
Sounds like pedos protecting pedos.
exactly
Whether it was a ratings thing or not, it exposed, shamed and put away pigs of society
I think anyone who exposes a grown man seeking sex w/13-14 year olds off the street is doing God's work period.. Bless all the organizations that do this.
God’s work is not to tempt people into entertaining evil thoughts by posing as an underage girl online looking for sex. This is man’s work to regulate the society he lives in and to create industry and meaning for his life. Let’s not put God’s name on this. Otherwise, you are saying that He approves of tempting people to commit sins, which is not the case: unless of course God and the devil are the same being. Is that what you are saying?
Read the bible you fool grown men in the bible were having sex with minors. The church is full of pedos
Todd Johnson God hates hypocrites!
Lance Stone And you are an absolute fool! Care to share book, chapter and verse, you ignorant reprobate?
Bludgeoned Records Amen!
"I feel sorry for these child molesters." - No One Ever
They're individuals. Some of them are monsters, and some of them are sad, confused people that are trying to find their way out. It's not their choice to be like that.
Its not pedophiles' choice to be attracted to younger people specifically. That's what I was getting at
Its obviously their choice to act on those feelings but the feelings themselves weren't chosen. In some instances maybe its "easy pussy" but there's a difference between a guy looking for easy pussy and someone legitimately attracted to younger, maybe prepubescent girls.
The original comment was talking about pedophiles
The comment was about child molesters tho
even if you've never touched a child, but look at child pornography, your helping to fuel an industry, that does more harm to each and every individual child shown there.
What industry??
... the child pornography industry?
Downloading something for free doesn't harm anyone unless the person who downloaded it is spreading it along. Buying it is actually fueling those industries.
Jacques Aubin the child pornography industry you utter moron
@@Mr.Caligos umm no sites have ads now, are you justifying child pornography just because you dont pay for it? It should disgust anyone wheter it be free or not.
What ??? Why would anyone have a problem with this show, they were doing a civil service.
Because it's utterly exploitative?
A show like that would certainly never fly in Europe.
im glad hes back at it again.
jake resides Google?
Pranks on a fourth grade teacher
"Why don't you have a seat right there.'
It’s easy to say the show was problematic in 2018 when almost every kid has a phone or tablet, but I think you also have to consider that the show debuted in 2004 during the first generation of young kids who were online and interacting with other people in chat rooms. I’m sure there were MANY people who had no idea how easy it was for their children to talk to complete strangers.
Chris is awesome, does a great job.
death penalty guarantees no repeat offending
Death penalty just increases the amount of dead kids
Obviously that's an emotional response. However, death clearly doesn't fit the crime here. Let's be real. And no, I don't condone their behavior. Insult me if you wish.
I wonder if people would have the same hostility towards women who do that to kids.
Warfighter Eternal no fuckhead, its nothing like being gay.
Well be it as it may, "Fuckhead" (Casey James). Gay people and Pedoes are different as an issue, the same way Blacks and Women and Gays are different. That doesn't mean that social discrimination against them are deserved.
I get tired of "scumbag" trite fallacious arguments as yours.
Any empathy driving the criticism made in this video fails to comprehend the extent of the depravity and sadism involved in pedophilia
so eloquently written. Love it
I never defend pedophiles who act on their desires, but I have sympathy for some of them. They are mentally sick and they made horrible choices, they can be helped. Childhood upbringing and trauma might be a real factor in developing pedophilia in adulthood, including children who have been molested themselves. Nobody chooses what they're exposed to as children because they don't know any better and these unlucky ones (might have) happened to lack the protection every child needs at that period of their lives.
So while I condemn child molesters, I don't completely lack the ability to understand their behaviors and sympathize with them. I do despise them for doing these things to innocent children but I don't think of them as non-redeemable, you could say. I simply dislike the notion of subjecting judgment and punishment on people irrespective of their past experiences and their ability to 'heal' and integrate normally in society. Give them a chance, and then pass judgment on them, not the other way around. It's this perpetual lack of empathy that makes this issue grow worse and worse with time because people see it in black and white. Kill all the pedophiles and the problem disappears right? Absolutely not. Society the way it is will keep making it harder and harder for these people to seek help and eventually become unable to control their impulses. Treat them like humans, and maybe they will feel like humans and stop acting like monsters.
I didn't find the show entertaining due to its dark subject matter. But I think the shows producers had good intentions. And the criminals definitely needed to be caught.
Is like if someone showed off offering me a joint for free, then I let him in my house but before Im given any weed I get arrested for drug posesion instead.
No, it's more in line with you offering to give a kid some drugs, arrange to meet said kid at his/her home when you know their parents won't be around, then when you arrive you get arrested for trying to give FUCKING DRUGS TO A KID.
These people were preying on children, trying to orchestrate some sort of sexual situation with kids.
But for the sake of your stupid argument, if having an intention of acquiring marijuana is illegal then regardless of if you got set up by a tv show, you would have still been breaking the law.
Bryan They have convos, digital documentation of their gross intentions too. So what the fuck with this "enticement" shit? The decoys don't initiate, nor do they push. They only respond.
Christian_Country_Boy I love Jesus Christ! I love Jesus Christ
Quinn Ingrassia How so?
If Chris Hansen came up with the concept, then he's a genius.
The Murphy, TX residents who were upset were not thinking very clearly. The predators weren't being lured there to come set up shop but to be confronted and arrested for their crimes. That would probably DETER predators from coming to Murphy, TX. After the cases were stupidly thrown out of court that sent the message that Murphy was soft on sexual predators
Florin Sivu d
You can't blame them. I wouldn't want them near a school
Javier Smith it's sad I'm from Texas
michael sic
The judge who through the case out was probably a predator
Entrapment is NEVER "entrapment" if you're guilty! If you're guilty and caught, you're guilty no matter HOW YOU'RE CAUGHT! PERIOD! We need justice for the VICTIMS and NOT the PERPS!!!
Anything you say can and will be used against you.
Hansen is a hero
Amen.
Hansen was accused of rape and possession of heroin.
He's only the damn host. Perverted Justice and the police did all the actual work.
Erik Hanger hence the word “accused”
Hey, a predator is a predator. Whatever, it only shows one thing a lot of predators lurking around the media, law enforcement etc.thats why there's no support, they killed the show.
the forces behind the pedophilia ring is huge and powerful. they'd do anything to stop any breaking of the chain
@synchromorph Lol quit pretending to be an intellectual, its embarassing.
Chris actually didn’t actually save any kids’ lives as all the predators he caught was on a setup environment and there was no argument to prove that those predators would’ve actually raped the kids in real life scenarios, that’s why all the cases were dismissed by the court. Courts give verdict only for happened incidents not for incidents which are assumed or more likely to take place !!
But , crimes that Chris did were of measurable nature in real life with no setups and there are no reasons they could be justified by his “so-called” good deeds which actually didn’t achieve any real life good for any single kids .
@@jerry6830 I take it you haven’t read the chat logs
Kyle Miller I take it you haven’t read the full article about this show .it has published only the ones where the people have pleaded guilty
Idk why anyone is arguing that this show is bad. They are exposing rapist and pedos. Honestly if you find this bad you are possibly a predator as well..
King maybe you are
Have you never defended anyone but yourself or the groups you belong to?
Stupid thing to say.
Russell Allen not a wet dreamer if the predator had already knew that the victim is underage and he he already brought a condom to the house.
I think the legal dispute is they kind of broke the chain of custody for evidence because they are not police themselves or whatever. I mean it's kind of goofy since that means good Samaritans can't stop criminals either or some such if that's the actual reason the cases were thrown out or anything.
To catch a predator should be on prime time, everyday, forever.
[Breathing heavily] Uh uh uh... I agree!
As many mistakes as they made in "To Catch A Predator", it definitely spread awareness to citizens and fear among pedophiles. In "Hanson vs Predator" many of the predators were far more hesitant to go because they had watched the show.
The vast majority of child molestation is committed by someone the child knows, usually a family member. All this did was perpetuate the idiotic stereotype that your child will be safe if you keep him away from creepy guys with white vans, and add to it an irrational fear of all interaction over the internet.
Matthew Hinchberger does not happen? That is wrong
+Yonkage , +Matthew Hinchberger +TheProclaimed it does happen. Some girls lie about their age on adult dating sites, it's happened to a friend of mine. Also when I was A young teenager there were always a few girls with boyfriends between 18-35 at 13 yrs old. Almost every school would have a teacher who would date underage girls. It's much harder now for them to get away with it because of the "Over-Hyped" fear.
It didn't used to happen over the internet. Mainly because the internet wasn't so huge 15 or so years ago.
I have a stepsister who wound up _marrying_ the bald ugly pedo in her life. (He got her knocked up.) No internet involved.
Your analogy doesn't really work. The predator trolling method, to my knowledge, simply involves registering a profile on an adult website with a child's age... or going into chat and saying something to the effect of "i'm 13 lel"
Which would more or less equate to said drug sting cop saying to a crowd "excuse me, sirs and madams, would any of you care to partake in some... drugs?"
Is this some kind of setup or something?
You know what.. i don't want this cookie anymore
this comment is cute, built good
WTF DID THEY JUST COMPARE CHEATING TO PEDOPHILIA?!!!
SERIOUSLY WTF!!!
Also how'd they "drop the ball" by not firing him...im just pretty mad they made the comparison of adultery and PEDOPHILIA!!!
Who cares about cheating . Marriage is bullshit anyways screw that torture
RinascitaVita Yeeeeeees because only liberals can be morons.
This was like the first show to bring awareness to how dangerous online strangers can be and helped a lot in terms of safety AND caught dirtbags in the act....and we are gonna roast it?
Did they just equate Chris Hansen cheating on his wife to sex with a minor?
A fucking slime ball is a slime ball.
Chris Hansen is a legend, whoever doesnt like the show are just predators or future predators themselves
NumBxDino :3 Chris actually didn’t actually save any kids’ lives as all the predators he caught was on a setup environment and there was no argument to prove that those predators would’ve actually raped the kids in real life scenarios, that’s why all the cases were dismissed by the court. Courts give verdict only for happened incidents not for incidents which are assumed or more likely to take place !!
But , crimes that Chris did were of measurable nature in real life with no setups and there are no reasons they could be justified by his “so-called” good deeds which actually didn’t achieve any real life good for any single kid.
Jerry TCAP saves future children from being targeted by those same men. And most predators were convicted not dismissed. A very ignorant comment
NumBxDino :3 lol😂😂😂
Tyrell Lopez they were dismissed as per NBC as the show used entrapment- other than who pleaded guilty .
Tyrell Lopez Future ? Really ? - Do you think courts press charges against crimes which are assumed to happen in future ?
Who is ignorant now !!!
Chris Hansen is a HERO!!!
dvon1097 damn RIGHT
You're saying that a man who cheated on his wife is a fucking hero?
Bass really i never herd of that wow!
I'm not completely against the show but it was very cheaply and sloppily done. Chris Hansen was not the right man for the job either. He wasn't all that witty and missed a lot of good opportunities to point things out mistakes the predators made. Also, he used the word thunk once too. That word has never even been in my vocabulary once before
stfu aspie.
I honestly don't care how these predators are caught. They are attempting to commit a crime so despicable, so heinous that even other hardened criminals look down on them and have had a long history of killing them once they are thrown in prison. They are the scum of the earth, and deserve nothing but the harshest punishment possible under law. And honestly, who cares that Chris Hansen cheated on his wife? People cheat all the time. I'm not saying that it's a good thing to cheat on someone, but you certainly can't compare his misdeeds to those of the predators he was trying to catch. I'd watch a new series with him as the host any day.
I understand your perspective, but it's kinda misguided. No matter the nature of a crime, all suspects are entitled to things like a fair trial, freedom from cruel and unusual punishment, and the position of being innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. And most importantly, that the investigation against them remain within the boundaries of due process.
It's not meant to protect heinous criminals. It's meant to protect innocent people who are accused of being heinous criminals. Whereby, all suspects, regardless of the crime in question, are entitled to the equal treatment.
Everyone is looking for someone to look down on in order to feel that they're 'not so bad' in comparison. It's human nature, especially when talking about the lowest people on the rung. I don't think it justifies their behavior. We can't help what we are. You can't chose your thoughts before you think them. You can choose whether to act out on them and in our culture it's illegal so they deserve to be punished....but not to be tortured or killed.
I'm sorry, we might disagree, but there is nothing more heinous, disturbing, or digusting than torturing and killing another human being. I wish this show could have been "How to catch a murderer" so that they could have actually saved some lives...
@@pleromicpastry5445 I’m into killing people but don’t attack me because “I can’t help who I am”
who gives a shit? One of the best shows ever!
Joanna F. fr
Alyosha Autist too skinny for my taste, eww
Joanna F. yes it would be nice to wonder why people have a problem with the sexual deviants that prey on 13yr Olds getting rekt..... hmmmmmm It's cause they are one themselves or have family or friends or have taken part themselves in this pedophilia. they can't handle not being the perfect sociopath. so they want to lessen the demonization of such behavior.
If it ended with predators being arrested idgaf if they were operating with little to no journalistic integrity.
Pedophiles deserve justice? They don't.
Ricardo Martinez they deserve death
I'm so glad that you'll never fall into a pile of torches and pitchforks.
Of course they deserve justice. Child molesters are human beings, and so the way we treat them affects society at large. If child molesters are not put on trial then the full extent of their crimes cannot be thoroughly observed. I think the victims of sexual abuse deserve to be heard and THEN supported. Otherwise, you're looking beyond the victim and just releasing your anger out on the molester. Which has it's place, but don't think that simply doing so offers any help to those who suffer with experiences of childhood sexual abuse.
Justice.. With the Warrior.
Nick Costley You're confusing justice with due process.
Enticement? I don't think so, you could not entice me to have sex with a minor with anything you had to offer. Damn, I'm 64 and have trouble seeing a 20 year old girl as an adult.
Agreed. I'm 28 and have trouble seeing 20 yr olds as adults too.
I'm a 20 year old girl I'm having trouble seeing 20 year old men as adults.
*****
Yes Man!
What?? what state is that?
Well it wouldn't be Saudi Arabia, muslims marry children all the time.
Why wouldn’t it want to be ratings hungry?!? It was a good show for a good reason.
But did anyone really care about catching predators or only did it for the ratings. If ratings were low and no money was rolling in would the people working in the show care about catching predators. That's the point.
@@johnjohno410 well if they weren't making money they wouldn't do the show because they need money to live. Not because they don't like catching those people.
John Johno Does it really matter WHY in this instance? They’re doing a good thing, and not hurting anyone in the process. Who gives a damn if it’s for money.
Nolan if the money wasn't there I wonder would the people in this show go out of their way to still catch them or start a fundraiser to keep the show going to keep catching pedos.
Kieo Feels like they were going after small fish when they should of targeted pedo rings and the more twisted ones interested in infants and small children.
Chris Hansen is a legend, a true servant of the public. This purile and sad attempt to defame him is filth.
Nope. Try again!
i get giddy as hell just hearing about hansen vs predator.
Ha ha, nice one sir.
JJDBaca no.....no....no....no
heh heh heh. You guys are great.
DeadPool Junior. Then why did it stop at five episode
You get gidy and the predator gets gigity