if you break the chain, it does NOT affect your shiny Pokemon chances. It just resets the poke's levels. The chance stays at 1/512(1/200 with shiny charm.)
What you said about the chain reseting after 100 encounters is correct. I've tried for shiny taillow twice. The first time, I went for 130+ encounters and never realized it had reset.
+DragonWarrior989 Does this mean that repels don't really matter (even though they are pretty useful) and you can run away from the poke, or am I wrong?
Thanks for the tutorial, I mostly Masuda method or radar in X for my shinies but I've been meaning to try DexNav'ing and horde hunting. Funny enough I finally got a shiny Zubat via horde hunting while I was watching your video!
Thanks a bunch man. I saw this last night, and tried this a bit. Then I woke up tried for 20 minutes and a shiny numel. :D stoked! Will be trying again for something else in a bit
Thank you for this excellent tutorial. I could not find a single informative guide that explained do's and don'ts. With these exact 9 steps, I was able to catch my 1st shiny tailow (shiny beldum does not count). Will now try to catch other pokemon that I want for my party of 6! Thank you for this. Subbed!
Shiny hunter here as well, was glad they had this of the Pokeradar in XY (I suck on that method - but actually a bit good in DPPt).. thanks for this video.. Im still in my main storyline for AS and would try this once Im done with the game :D
I found 2 shiny ralts (15 ~20 ralts until find each one) using the tips you said on the video, thanks man, this method really works (and I don't even have the Shiny Charm) :D
1- You are simply adorable! 2- I am starting a chain for vulpix and eevee, thanks to you and this awesome detailed video. 3- Shiny Hype :D I soooo wanna add you as a friend :)
Thanks for this tutorial! I got a shiny zebstrika in 13 encounters WITHOUT the shiny charm!!!!! (Remembered to get it after I found the shiny) It woke me up fully cuz it was like five in the morning!
i was doing this from the start of the video following the instructions and i then encountered a shiny ralts at chain 16 and i havent even finished watching the whole vid yet;;; this works so well i almost got a heart attack;;; also the levels don't reset to the normal levels of the pokemon found in that area if you encounter a shiny :) thanks again for this tutorial! i've filled like 8 boxes of ralts already hahah
0w0b It seems as though finding a shiny allows you to continue your chain. You don't have to catch the poke to continue, just defeat it. Congrats on the Ralts! Glad I could help =]
aDrive aaa i meant the 8 boxes of ralts are from masuda method// i've been doing it for a week lol seems i forgot to mention this out of excitement;; lmao
aDrive! Thanks so much!! I caught a shiny slakoth and a shiny misdreavus using this! I just caught the shiny misdreavus! The misdreavus took 257 encounters, and the slakoth took about 200!
Oh, boy. Been scrambling for something to do in ORAS now that I've got my main team lvl 100 and found all the important items and whatnot. Gonna be the patron saint of wonder trading shinies that I don't want to use.
as you rightly said, the higher the research level of a certain Pokémon species, the higher the basic shiny rate (for example, based on serebii data, with a research level of 200 and the shiny charm, the shiny rate is approximately 1/300). Therefore, if I do my Shiny hunting session starting from the search level of 200 and after 200 encounters I don't find it, it may be a good strategy to do a soft reset before starting a new shiny hunting session to avoid wasting objects such as repels and leppa berries?
I'm chaining for a shiny vulpix on top of Mount Pyre. I'm using dexnav to chain but when i encounter different vulpix, the levels are inconsistent. For example, one would be level 29, then the next encounter would be level 32. I don't know if this is a problem or if I'm doing something wrong?
Literally two minutes ago I was about to start chaining for a shiny Zorua, I realized I was low on repels so I started heading towards the PokeMart in Oldale Town... I encounter a shiny Zigzagoon on my way there! I caught it and then went to go get the repels anyway because I was still wanted a shiny Zorua. I go back and start chaining for Zorua... CHAIN OF TWO SHINY ZORUA!!!!!! FTW!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friend Code - 3626 - 0853 - 9054 Name - Jonny ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I was playing Pokemon Y trying to do horde encounters on zubat in the cave by the pokemon day care kept encountering axew and whismur took a break then I go to victory road hopefully trying to find zubat or golbat horde, I run into two hordes of floatzel the run into one horde of geodude in the right corner there it was shiny geodude but no zubat gonna try again today but in Omega Ruby. :D
I love dexnav shiny hunting. My first shiny hunted with that method was a shiny Pikachu from safari zone in AS. it took me 223 encounters. I also had encountered a shiny ralts before. It was somewhere around 400 encounters, but it teleported. Next time, I Used my Trapinch which had the ability called arena trap to keep the ralts in battle and got my shiny female ralts around 950 dexnav encounters.
@adrive ive been watching your streams and youve been saying that the chain doesnt matter, its just the encounters. Does that only work for cave hunting or do the encounters matter for dex nav grass hunting
I found Shiny Poocheyna while also running into other pokemon (didn't use repel) and just running away from other poocheyna's (didn't defeat or catch them) and I left the route so many times. So it's not necessary to use repels, defeat or catch them or stay on the route.
Do no get foul by this video. There is no such thing like shiny chaining with the dexnav. No matter how many pokemon you've encountered, the odds will be the same. It's a 1/512 every encounter, chaining does not exist.
I got a 129 with none, and my search level was 316 by the end of it. Inclined to think the same, the few people reporting "successes" on guides they read/watched are just the few lucky sods who got them randomly.
I think so too, I mean if the rate would go up I would have had a lot of shiny ralts already, I tried this several times already. I think it's more chance to get one than from random encounters, but that it doesn't go up with each successful encounter through the Dexnav. Today I am trying again, I'll let you know if it was a succes or if it failed again.
+aDrive Hey aDrive! I've recently started chaining to try to find shinies that I want in ORAS. I've noticed that after 100 encounters that the levels reset to the original route levels. i.e. after 100 encounters with Poochyena on Route 101 it goes from being level 30 back to level 2. Does this mean my chain has broken or is it still viable?
TheBeastPokeBaller PP-O-Power or I use TMs to teach my pokes new moves and then delete them. Ex. teach poke Facade, us all PP, delete Facade for Aerial Ace, and repeat
I'm here in 2022 tryina figure out how to dex nav bc I've never done it before. I also just got my Shiny Treecko from soft resetting finally got it after 1200 resets thankfully wasn't over odds and it's Adamant Nature too of all things. Definitely making it a physical attacker if that wasn't already obvious I love my Treecko so much lol.
@aDrive, how will I know the Pokemon I'm shiny hunting (in this case Vulpix on Mt. Pyre) is shiny? Will it appear on the overworld shiny or in battle only?
I'm trying this for a shiny ralts I was at a chain of 15 then all the sudden it says "It couldn't be found nearby. Try looking in a different spot!" And it stopped working when I tried too chain again what's up with that 😕
Ty, couldn't have done it without your guide to build off of. Two things I wanted to ask if you don't mind that I picked up after doing some more chaining today. Does catching lower the chance compared to battling? Ones where I've caught have takem longer to spawn a shiny then ones where I have not. I wanted a second opinion on that and also do battle ending moves break the chain? (ie Teleport, Roar, Whirlwind, etc) I haven't tried chaining Tropius or Abra, so I haven't been able to test that.
When I was chaining for a shiny shoroomish I did all the steps and somehow my game just broke my chain is there a reason for that does it mean the game is glitchy
2 questions aDrive...Do u already have the Shiny Charm when you caught those 7 shiny Pokemon?...And, which shiny took the biggest chain and search level?
Are you using a shiny charm? I don't have one even though I have both Alpha Saphire and Omega Ruby, shiny charm is to much work. I always end around 80 encounters, should I be continuing? I've caught 4 shiny feebas, a shiny remoraid, and a lucky shiny oddish through horde hunting, dex nag ain't working. Any tips please. Thanks I really respect your opinion.
Just to clarify for people who are coming here for advice, this tutorial is outdated. Chaining with the DexNav does NOT affect shiny odds. The DexNav has fixed shiny odds irrespective of a chain. The only thing a chain does is make it easier to find the Pokemon and makes the Pokemon you find have better stats. In conclusion, breaking your DexNav chain means nothing. Don't get upset. You can still easily get that shiny.
it's unfortunate that there is so much bad info out there, I know none of it is malicious, it's just outdated as you said. still, I recently just got the ambition to play Alpha Sapphire and realized I had been shiny hunting all wrong lol. as for having fixed odds, has anyone found what those odds are, or is it just random? I've had good luck with hordes and fishing so far and I think I read 1/512 with shiny charm but statistics are a little over my head lol :)
Noob Dungeon I think it has roughly the same odds as the friend safari although I could be wrong. But it seems the average number of DexNav encounters till a shiny appears is around the early 200s.
+Bilbo Baggins yeah that sounds about right. with hordes I generally use sweet scent until I hit 200 / 250 and then I'll begin using the dexnav in hopes of getting a better quality pokemon. Just now I did that and got a Spinda with 3 stars potential after switching from using sweet scent. I am interested in messing around in the friend safari for sure, I just finished Y and have only been there once to see what pokes my friends had, but I've seen a lot of videos and pics of shiny pokemon come from friends safari! :)
If you're still interested in this comment conversation, what is the best method of getting the shiny; chaining to more or less ensure you get a 3 star potential shiny or running from each dexnav encounter? It kinda seems slower to run from the encounters than to continue chaining, since after running you would need to recharge the detector mode and rinse and repeat.
stevegoesrogue It is better and faster to chain. That's why people do it. Another piece of advice is to increase the search level (horde encounters are a good way to do that) as the search level apparently affects the shiny odds.
aDrive tK Your method is actually well excuse me for being blunt here... but its complete horseshit lol. You really only read this after this was posted onto www.serebii.net/omegarubyalphasapphire/dexnav.shtml and you get an even lower chance of a shiny...
Jerimiah Heter How can you make a claim like that? I actually found out the leveling aspect through Rekcana, another streamer, before Serebii posted their dexnav information (or at least before I saw it.) Clicking this link now was the first time I saw Serebiis page on it. Get a clue
Malevolent Entity Amen! People spend too much time focusing on what other do rather than trying it for themselves. I know Serebii is a reputable site, I use it for everything, but the Dexnav works to get shinies, 100%. Whether or not the probability of a shiny is like Chain Fishing (where the % changes each encounter or each 5 etc.) or it's like Pokeradar (where it changes after a set # of encounters) or like Friend Safari (where regardless of the chain, it's a higher chance), the proof is in the videos. I continue to find shinies and upload them. Believe me, I don't have unlimited time to chain, I do it maybe 3-4 times a week for 2-4 hours each time
I managed to catch a shiny magnemite after a chain of about 15 but a search level of 35. The dexnav probably does raise the rate, but it seems hard to keep a chain with many of the pokemon in ORAS. Are there any other "safe" chaining areas other than the route with chatot on it?
Any area is safe. Don't worry if your "search" says nothing can be found. Simply walk around slowly until another pokemon pops up, faint it(even if it isn't the one you're searching for) and then search again. Your chain stays intact.
So if the Dex finds another pokémon while you're looking for another pokémon it doesn't break the chain? Sometimes I walk away from the grass before to 'search' with the dex but while I'm going away the dex finds another pokémon... Does it break the chain?
So now that it's known chaining isn't actually a thing I want to know if I'm hunting right. I am next to a path of grass and using dexnav to find a certain pokemon. When I find it I encounter it. If it's not shiny I repeat. Am I doing it right? Cause I've done it over four hundred times now and I'm getting kinda discouraged.
I know that feel. I just hit 432 encounters for Ponyta, still no shiny. The game raised my expectations because I managed to catch a shiny Ralts after only a chain 42 (before I found out chains were a myth).
Nate Zawadzki Good luck! I got a standard but high IV Absol and she is just adorable in Pokemon-amie not to mention shes a fucking BEAST. Crits everywhere!
Got a shiny on my first attempt, though it was the most tedious thing I've ever done in pokemon at a chain of 274, but at least it worked! I chained swablu at route 114 and search level was around 340~350 by the time I was done.
i've been experimenting with this theory and i think i've discovered something (feel free to input and tell me if im wrong) I believe this way of "chaining" does work but as your chain gets higher, you have less time to creep up on the pokemon. If you do not creep up on the pokemon in a certain amount of time it will say "it ran away" and it will break your chain, but maybe thats just me.
aDrive my dear dear friend, I was looking for a meditite but a bronzor appeared so I went to ko it but it ran away when I was 1 square above it, does this break my chain
Got a shiny wurmple with this method. 3 attempts. First chain broke at 57, second broke at 132 and on third chain got shiny. Chain was only 15 search lvl 219. No shiny charm and only 1 gym badge. So this either does affect shiny encounter rates or I got very very lucky. Will be going for another to try and confirm which it was. Maybe taillow.
i either have really bad luck or my game is broken. have chained ponytas, rufflets, and absols all with over 300 search level, and their level reset twice because my chain kept breaking their level limit, and never a shiny, aldoe i did get a buttload of life orbs from absol
Several Questions that I'm still confused about... 1. How do I activate the "dexnav" feature? 2. I'm interested in obtaining a Hidden Ability (Adaptablity Corphish), how will chaining help me do this?
Just touch the DexNav on DS' second screen. It's the menu with a red background with a pokeball stencil and a pikachu on the sides. When you have it selected, it shows a rough map of the area with the pokemon you've caught over it (if you've seen the pokemon but didnt caught it, it'll show a silhouette). Everytime you encounter the pokemon you get one "search level". The more search levels you have, the more information the DexNav will give to you about the pokemon it has found. One of the information it shows is the pokemon's ability. When it's a hidden ability, it will have an exclamation point above the ability.
I found a shiny Ralts on my 45th chain but I ran into almost 400 of them beforehand. I also had three battle phases to bring it down to low HP and I finally caught it. Thing was it also had teleport so I shit my pants a little bit. So lucky...
I'm really bad with DexNav chaining. So many times I took too long tonget to the Pokémon and it ran away. So many times I've accidentily ran and scared away the Pokémon. So many times.....
leaving the route has no effect as i was chaining skarmory and went to go heal up and my chan was still the same also i saved and turn my 2ds off then on and the chain was still there too
So I'm just curious about this I'm doing this method but inside Mt. Pyre cause I want a shiny Duskull so my question is if the pokemon runs away since you were too slow will the chain break? If so then Duskull is gonna be one giant pain in my behind to get.
Spectroid5 Try chaining it outside of Mt Pyre in the grass. On the way up to the top. I did Shuppet up there and got Wingull, but I think Duskull works there too. That way it won't move!
I'm currently on a chain of 330 Skarmory and pretty sure I haven't broken it as the levels and stuff have been following accordingly. And still no shiny. So either I'm doing this wrong, it doesn't work, or I'm having really bad luck. =/
I think this might be something as well, I accidentally scared away my chained Numel by running at it too fast. When I found another Numel my chain was gone. So that will also end your chain from the research I've done.
Does anyone know: When he says the level increases by one every sixth encounter, does he mean each encounter that is a multiple of six (6,12,18,24...) or each encounter that is after the fifth/+10 (6,11,16,21...)?
Christopher Bly Say you start with Lotad at lv 5. On your 5th Lotad (or 5th pokemon in the Dexnav) it'll be Lv15. The 6th Pokemon will be level 6. The 10th Pokemon will be lv 16. The 11th Pokemon will be lv 7. Follow?
What am I doing wrong? Every time i search for the Pokemon that I want (yes, I have caught it) it just says that "It couldn't be found nearby, try looking in a different spot!" I don't understand, do I need to reach a certain point in the game to actually have them appear?
Deadinthehed Not finding a pokemon is not a big deal, just encounter the next pokemon with the sneaking technique. I just posted a video of me finding Shiny Wingull. Watch that for an idea of what I mean =]
aDrive tK Let me try to explain better, I did a pretty poor job. What I meant was that I can't even find a Pokemon to START the chain. I'm looking for Roselia over in route 117, and I can't get any Pokemon to show up at all. I tried 2 other routes later and both of them worked fine. I noticed that on those other 2 routes that I had the bronze catching medal, so I went back to route 117 and caught more and got the bronze, and it worked... Kind of. I was able to start a chain, but after KOing the Pokemon, I can't get the search to work for Roselia, no matter how many other Pokemon I KO by finding them by sneaking. It appears to work fine on other routes, but for whatever reason I'm having trouble with Roselia (or any other Pokemon for that matter) on route 117. Any ideas?
aDrive can i save and turn off the game, then restart the game? Is my shiny chain still working? It's because I do not have so much time for these 200+ chains in a row.
if you break the chain, it does NOT affect your shiny Pokemon chances. It just resets the poke's levels. The chance stays at 1/512(1/200 with shiny charm.)
What you said about the chain reseting after 100 encounters is correct. I've tried for shiny taillow twice. The first time, I went for 130+ encounters and never realized it had reset.
Just letting you guys know that it's confirmed at this point that chains don't affect shiny odds :)
+DragonWarrior989 Does this mean that repels don't really matter (even though they are pretty useful) and you can run away from the poke, or am I wrong?
+DragonWarrior989 Also, this means that every counter has a set % to be shiny, right?
Vraquilox HD yes, you're right about the repels and yes it has a set % that's only affected by the shiny charm
So i can just encounter a pokemon and runaway? (Ik im 1 year late >.
TheGrassySceptile Yep!
Thanks to this, I caught my first DexNAV shiny! Many thanks for posting this,
Thanks for the tutorial, I mostly Masuda method or radar in X for my shinies but I've been meaning to try DexNav'ing and horde hunting. Funny enough I finally got a shiny Zubat via horde hunting while I was watching your video!
Thanks a bunch man. I saw this last night, and tried this a bit. Then I woke up tried for 20 minutes and a shiny numel. :D stoked! Will be trying again for something else in a bit
Found a shiny ralts - uses teleport :(
I will pray for you man
THX!! I will remember to bring a taunter XD
use a high level crobat with mean look and keep throwing ultra balls at it
I feel ya man lvl 19 shiny abra uses telaport
Bruh xD
This guide helped me understand dexnav chaining but I kept messing up the chain lol! I'll keep trying!
Thank you for this excellent tutorial. I could not find a single informative guide that explained do's and don'ts. With these exact 9 steps, I was able to catch my 1st shiny tailow (shiny beldum does not count). Will now try to catch other pokemon that I want for my party of 6! Thank you for this. Subbed!
DeathReaper461 Congrats, so happy for you!
Shiny hunter here as well, was glad they had this of the Pokeradar in XY (I suck on that method - but actually a bit good in DPPt).. thanks for this video.. Im still in my main storyline for AS and would try this once Im done with the game :D
It's April 2023!! We're still here!
Thank you sooooo much!!! I found my very first shiny thanks to you!!! It was a Poochyena!
Very helpful! I like how you reply to the comments even with so many views :)
I found 2 shiny ralts (15 ~20 ralts until find each one) using the tips you said on the video, thanks man, this method really works (and I don't even have the Shiny Charm) :D
tytytytyty! Shiny taillow is all miiine! I've always wanted one and partly this is thanks to u bud! Subscribed!
1- You are simply adorable!
2- I am starting a chain for vulpix and eevee, thanks to you and this awesome detailed video.
3- Shiny Hype :D I soooo wanna add you as a friend :)
Thanks for this tutorial! I got a shiny zebstrika in 13 encounters WITHOUT the shiny charm!!!!! (Remembered to get it after I found the shiny) It woke me up fully cuz it was like five in the morning!
5:04 the chatots ability was big pecks loll
And at 6:04
i was doing this from the start of the video following the instructions and i then encountered a shiny ralts at chain 16 and i havent even finished watching the whole vid yet;;; this works so well i almost got a heart attack;;; also the levels don't reset to the normal levels of the pokemon found in that area if you encounter a shiny :)
thanks again for this tutorial! i've filled like 8 boxes of ralts already hahah
0w0b It seems as though finding a shiny allows you to continue your chain. You don't have to catch the poke to continue, just defeat it. Congrats on the Ralts! Glad I could help =]
aDrive aaa i meant the 8 boxes of ralts are from masuda method// i've been doing it for a week lol
seems i forgot to mention this out of excitement;; lmao
It works! Got Poochyena a few days ago, and ZigZagoon within 15 chains today.
Thanks for the guide. I got myself a shiny ralts after a chain of 85. (first a broken chain of 175 with no shiny)
Bram Roskam Nice! Keep it up =]
Awesome tutorial man! This helps a lot! :D
thanks, that is the best shiny hunting tutorial I've seen!
Thank you for the tutorial because of this I was able to get a shiny swablu and zigzagoon
A little late to the Dexnav hype, but this video was helpful!
Using this guide I was able to find my very first shiny which is a Shiny Kakuna in 22 tries!(That luck tho)
Thank you so much aDrive :)
aDrive! Thanks so much!! I caught a shiny slakoth and a shiny misdreavus using this! I just caught the shiny misdreavus! The misdreavus took 257 encounters, and the slakoth took about 200!
Oh, boy. Been scrambling for something to do in ORAS now that I've got my main team lvl 100 and found all the important items and whatnot.
Gonna be the patron saint of wonder trading shinies that I don't want to use.
as you rightly said, the higher the research level of a certain Pokémon species, the higher the basic shiny rate (for example, based on serebii data, with a research level of 200 and the shiny charm, the shiny rate is approximately 1/300). Therefore, if I do my Shiny hunting session starting from the search level of 200 and after 200 encounters I don't find it, it may be a good strategy to do a soft reset before starting a new shiny hunting session to avoid wasting objects such as repels and leppa berries?
What to do if all your Pokemon’s don’t have any moves left? Cuz number 5 says: don’t leave the route so you can’t heal at a pokecenter right?
thank you its helps a lot and i was confused until i found this thanks
I say this video explains perfectly of the other side on how to dexnav. While meanroller and Me have studying the dexnav shiny odds part.
I'm chaining for a shiny vulpix on top of Mount Pyre. I'm using dexnav to chain but when i encounter different vulpix, the levels are inconsistent. For example, one would be level 29, then the next encounter would be level 32. I don't know if this is a problem or if I'm doing something wrong?
Literally two minutes ago I was about to start chaining for a shiny Zorua, I realized I was low on repels so I started heading towards the PokeMart in Oldale Town... I encounter a shiny Zigzagoon on my way there! I caught it and then went to go get the repels anyway because I was still wanted a shiny Zorua. I go back and start chaining for Zorua... CHAIN OF TWO SHINY ZORUA!!!!!! FTW!!!!
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i got my zig today
Good job! Best of luck for future shinies!
Jonny Bloom My friend code is 1478 8324 2741
I was playing Pokemon Y trying to do horde encounters on zubat in the cave by the pokemon day care kept encountering axew and whismur took a break then I go to victory road hopefully trying to find zubat or golbat horde, I run into two hordes of floatzel the run into one horde of geodude in the right corner there it was shiny geodude but no zubat gonna try again today but in Omega Ruby. :D
I love dexnav shiny hunting. My first shiny hunted with that method was a shiny Pikachu from safari zone in AS. it took me 223 encounters. I also had encountered a shiny ralts before. It was somewhere around 400 encounters, but it teleported. Next time, I Used my Trapinch which had the ability called arena trap to keep the ralts in battle and got my shiny female ralts around 950 dexnav encounters.
Does the Chain Break, if I'm too slow?
Yep
There is no chain
@adrive ive been watching your streams and youve been saying that the chain doesnt matter, its just the encounters. Does that only work for cave hunting or do the encounters matter for dex nav grass hunting
I found Shiny Poocheyna while also running into other pokemon (didn't use repel) and just running away from other poocheyna's (didn't defeat or catch them) and I left the route so many times. So it's not necessary to use repels, defeat or catch them or stay on the route.
MultiSporeCREATOR that was probably just luck. these rules are for chaining
Aww, I understand the method better now. Im chaining for a Minccino right now.
Thx for the awesome tutorial, wish I had Alpha Sapphire to test this.
Okay, I’m at 650+ encounters (Top right number in dexnav app) for trapinch and still no shiny! What am I doing wrong?!
Do no get foul by this video. There is no such thing like shiny chaining with the dexnav. No matter how many pokemon you've encountered, the odds will be the same.
It's a 1/512 every encounter, chaining does not exist.
yeah I just found out
you're wrong, but ok
Prove me wrong.
+NurginAce no he isn't, the video made mistakes
But there still is a chain because the Pokemon's level increase by 1 level every 6th encounter and it increases 10 levels every 5th encounter.
My chain just broke at 150 no shiny ralts, Starting to think the shiny rate does go up but not with each encounter like with the pokeradar.
I got a 129 with none, and my search level was 316 by the end of it.
Inclined to think the same, the few people reporting "successes" on guides they read/watched are just the few lucky sods who got them randomly.
I think so too, I mean if the rate would go up I would have had a lot of shiny ralts already, I tried this several times already. I think it's more chance to get one than from random encounters, but that it doesn't go up with each successful encounter through the Dexnav. Today I am trying again, I'll let you know if it was a succes or if it failed again.
Nekkowe
Attempt 2: 145 chain no shinies....
Hands on most frustrating method ever.
Nekkowe He's gotten 5 shinies doing this. That's some amazing luck, even with the shiny charm.
Maybe I should get my shiny charm first before trying this at all..
+aDrive Hey aDrive! I've recently started chaining to try to find shinies that I want in ORAS. I've noticed that after 100 encounters that the levels reset to the original route levels. i.e. after 100 encounters with Poochyena on Route 101 it goes from being level 30 back to level 2. Does this mean my chain has broken or is it still viable?
what if you run out of pp on your lead pokemon and u are out of berries and ethers???
TheBeastPokeBaller PP-O-Power or I use TMs to teach my pokes new moves and then delete them. Ex. teach poke Facade, us all PP, delete Facade for Aerial Ace, and repeat
wow, thanks!
I'm here in 2022 tryina figure out how to dex nav bc I've never done it before. I also just got my Shiny Treecko from soft resetting finally got it after 1200 resets thankfully wasn't over odds and it's Adamant Nature too of all things. Definitely making it a physical attacker if that wasn't already obvious I love my Treecko so much lol.
@aDrive, how will I know the Pokemon I'm shiny hunting (in this case Vulpix on Mt. Pyre) is shiny? Will it appear on the overworld shiny or in battle only?
I'm trying this for a shiny ralts I was at a chain of 15 then all the sudden it says "It couldn't be found nearby. Try looking in a different spot!" And it stopped working when I tried too chain again what's up with that 😕
Shiny Zorua at 15. ^^ Works, thanks man.
TaintedTerror NICE!
Ty, couldn't have done it without your guide to build off of.
Two things I wanted to ask if you don't mind that I picked up after doing some more chaining today. Does catching lower the chance compared to battling? Ones where I've caught have takem longer to spawn a shiny then ones where I have not. I wanted a second opinion on that and also do battle ending moves break the chain? (ie Teleport, Roar, Whirlwind, etc) I haven't tried chaining Tropius or Abra, so I haven't been able to test that.
I finally played through all generations from Gen 1 to 8
Question, is the game making it up when the DexNav says "Unable to find the Pokemon nearby"
When I was chaining for a shiny shoroomish I did all the steps and somehow my game just broke my chain is there a reason for that does it mean the game is glitchy
2 questions aDrive...Do u already have the Shiny Charm when you caught those 7 shiny Pokemon?...And, which shiny took the biggest chain and search level?
He never answered 😩
@@agamelegend9441 He never did 😂
Does the Pokémon running away break the chain? Cuz that's happened to me a few times.
Are you using a shiny charm? I don't have one even though I have both Alpha Saphire and Omega Ruby, shiny charm is to much work. I always end around 80 encounters, should I be continuing? I've caught 4 shiny feebas, a shiny remoraid, and a lucky shiny oddish through horde hunting, dex nag ain't working. Any tips please. Thanks I really respect your opinion.
Just to clarify for people who are coming here for advice, this tutorial is outdated.
Chaining with the DexNav does NOT affect shiny odds. The DexNav has fixed shiny odds irrespective of a chain. The only thing a chain does is make it easier to find the Pokemon and makes the Pokemon you find have better stats.
In conclusion, breaking your DexNav chain means nothing. Don't get upset. You can still easily get that shiny.
it's unfortunate that there is so much bad info out there, I know none of it is malicious, it's just outdated as you said. still, I recently just got the ambition to play Alpha Sapphire and realized I had been shiny hunting all wrong lol. as for having fixed odds, has anyone found what those odds are, or is it just random? I've had good luck with hordes and fishing so far and I think I read 1/512 with shiny charm but statistics are a little over my head lol :)
Noob Dungeon I think it has roughly the same odds as the friend safari although I could be wrong. But it seems the average number of DexNav encounters till a shiny appears is around the early 200s.
+Bilbo Baggins yeah that sounds about right. with hordes I generally use sweet scent until I hit 200 / 250 and then I'll begin using the dexnav in hopes of getting a better quality pokemon. Just now I did that and got a Spinda with 3 stars potential after switching from using sweet scent. I am interested in messing around in the friend safari for sure, I just finished Y and have only been there once to see what pokes my friends had, but I've seen a lot of videos and pics of shiny pokemon come from friends safari! :)
If you're still interested in this comment conversation, what is the best method of getting the shiny; chaining to more or less ensure you get a 3 star potential shiny or running from each dexnav encounter? It kinda seems slower to run from the encounters than to continue chaining, since after running you would need to recharge the detector mode and rinse and repeat.
stevegoesrogue It is better and faster to chain. That's why people do it. Another piece of advice is to increase the search level (horde encounters are a good way to do that) as the search level apparently affects the shiny odds.
This helps a lot thanks so much u rock bro
Im too late, if i use pokecenter my chain breaks?
is the tutorial poochyena dexnav shiny huntable?
omfg THERE ARE NO CHAINING CONFIRMED ON THE DEXAV. ITS A SOLID 1/200 ISH CHANCE
how about shiny charm?
yeah that works
PokeFan74 channel
I know this is 2 years later, but how have you come across this theory/sum-up?
I also posted this on a video from TheJustinFlynn, but is there anything official released that confirms this?
There won't be. Just people trying it and possibly someone hacking the game data to see if it shows any info
ProfessorWess I found 3 shinies with this method today, 5 total now. I'm 100% positive with my methods you'll have an increased Shiny chance.
aDrive tK
Your method is actually well excuse me for being blunt here... but its complete horseshit lol. You really only read this after this was posted onto www.serebii.net/omegarubyalphasapphire/dexnav.shtml and you get an even lower chance of a shiny...
Jerimiah Heter How can you make a claim like that? I actually found out the leveling aspect through Rekcana, another streamer, before Serebii posted their dexnav information (or at least before I saw it.) Clicking this link now was the first time I saw Serebiis page on it. Get a clue
Malevolent Entity Amen! People spend too much time focusing on what other do rather than trying it for themselves. I know Serebii is a reputable site, I use it for everything, but the Dexnav works to get shinies, 100%. Whether or not the probability of a shiny is like Chain Fishing (where the % changes each encounter or each 5 etc.) or it's like Pokeradar (where it changes after a set # of encounters) or like Friend Safari (where regardless of the chain, it's a higher chance), the proof is in the videos. I continue to find shinies and upload them. Believe me, I don't have unlimited time to chain, I do it maybe 3-4 times a week for 2-4 hours each time
Thanks for the help ADr1V3!
Thanks for this. I've gotten to a couple chains of 150, but no shiny.Maybe I'm just unlucky, but I'll keep trying!
Chain breaks after 100
Darn. I thought that was only the levels resetting, not the chain, but I guess that makes sense.
I've heard that it breaks but who knows for sure
Chris Khan It actually looks like the chain continues but just resets levels to 0 to avoid overleveling the pokemon
aDrive tK Ok I'm kinda of mad now because I have been resetting my chain at 100 lol good job on your shinys though
I managed to catch a shiny magnemite after a chain of about 15 but a search level of 35. The dexnav probably does raise the rate, but it seems hard to keep a chain with many of the pokemon in ORAS. Are there any other "safe" chaining areas other than the route with chatot on it?
Any area is safe. Don't worry if your "search" says nothing can be found. Simply walk around slowly until another pokemon pops up, faint it(even if it isn't the one you're searching for) and then search again. Your chain stays intact.
So if the Dex finds another pokémon while you're looking for another pokémon it doesn't break the chain?
Sometimes I walk away from the grass before to 'search' with the dex but while I'm going away the dex finds another pokémon... Does it break the chain?
Cloud Whisperer Nope, does not. I just posted a vid of me finding Shiny Wingull proving your chain continues and Shinies can happen
So now that it's known chaining isn't actually a thing I want to know if I'm hunting right.
I am next to a path of grass and using dexnav to find a certain pokemon. When I find it I encounter it. If it's not shiny I repeat. Am I doing it right? Cause I've done it over four hundred times now and I'm getting kinda discouraged.
I know that feel. I just hit 432 encounters for Ponyta, still no shiny. The game raised my expectations because I managed to catch a shiny Ralts after only a chain 42 (before I found out chains were a myth).
LockeRobster Lol as long as I know I'm still doing it right. I'm hunting for a Shiny Absol
Nate Zawadzki Good luck! I got a standard but high IV Absol and she is just adorable in Pokemon-amie not to mention shes a fucking BEAST. Crits everywhere!
LockeRobster Nice! I'm a bit of a noob so I'm not really familiar with IVs and stuff
Ronan Telford Wow.
Got a shiny on my first attempt, though it was the most tedious thing I've ever done in pokemon at a chain of 274, but at least it worked! I chained swablu at route 114 and search level was around 340~350 by the time I was done.
Manny Toppings Sounds about right. Congrats Manny!
i've been experimenting with this theory and i think i've discovered something (feel free to input and tell me if im wrong) I believe this way of "chaining" does work but as your chain gets higher, you have less time to creep up on the pokemon. If you do not creep up on the pokemon in a certain amount of time it will say "it ran away" and it will break your chain, but maybe thats just me.
I haven't noticed any issues with the amount of time to creep. I chained over 500 encounters today and never broke the chain once.
Does exiting the dexnav break the chain?
aDrive my dear dear friend, I was looking for a meditite but a bronzor appeared so I went to ko it but it ran away when I was 1 square above it, does this break my chain
Would getting online to use a PP O power break the chain?
do you have to get a lot of pp restores because i always run out of it?
Got a shiny wurmple with this method.
3 attempts. First chain broke at 57, second broke at 132 and on third chain got shiny. Chain was only 15 search lvl 219.
No shiny charm and only 1 gym badge. So this either does affect shiny encounter rates or I got very very lucky. Will be going for another to try and confirm which it was. Maybe taillow.
everglaves I'm 100% sure this affects shiny rates. I've had too much success for it not to haha
@aDrive got the shiny Taillow today. Two shinies in two hunting sessions so I agree this is legit. No way am I that luck
Does snapping, burning and eating your 3ds break the chain?
Good question
does search level matter as iv tried the sweet scent methord and now the zubays search level is 999
Does switching the lead Pokemon break your chain? Because when I run out of pp I just switch
Chad Conrad Thats fine
Ok thanks
+aDrive I have better luck with horde shinies
+Kaitlin Bragman i found must of my shiny from the dexnev hunting
+aDrive shiny numel better run because here I come
Does closing ur 3ds break ur chain because I closed it at 25 to get out of the car (it was raining)
i either have really bad luck or my game is broken. have chained ponytas, rufflets, and absols all with over 300 search level, and their level reset twice because my chain kept breaking their level limit, and never a shiny, aldoe i did get a buttload of life orbs from absol
So when the lvl restarts is chain broken
does restoring pp in battle break the chain?
Thank you so much
I can get my shiny numel now
Sooooo... if I get my chain to something like 97 can I just go for REs?
Do you have the shiny charm??
I got my first chain shiny and its eevee my dream shiny when I was watching this!
Several Questions that I'm still confused about...
1. How do I activate the "dexnav" feature?
2. I'm interested in obtaining a Hidden Ability (Adaptablity Corphish), how will chaining help me do this?
Just touch the DexNav on DS' second screen. It's the menu with a red background with a pokeball stencil and a pikachu on the sides. When you have it selected, it shows a rough map of the area with the pokemon you've caught over it (if you've seen the pokemon but didnt caught it, it'll show a silhouette). Everytime you encounter the pokemon you get one "search level". The more search levels you have, the more information the DexNav will give to you about the pokemon it has found. One of the information it shows is the pokemon's ability. When it's a hidden ability, it will have an exclamation point above the ability.
I found a shiny Ralts on my 45th chain but I ran into almost 400 of them beforehand. I also had three battle phases to bring it down to low HP and I finally caught it. Thing was it also had teleport so I shit my pants a little bit. So lucky...
Does it have to be in the same grass area
I'm really bad with DexNav chaining. So many times I took too long tonget to the Pokémon and it ran away. So many times I've accidentily ran and scared away the Pokémon. So many times.....
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leaving the route has no effect as i was chaining skarmory and went to go heal up and my chan was still the same also i saved and turn my 2ds off then on and the chain was still there too
Does putting ur game on sleep mess up ur chain?
What is the route u are on?
Shiny charm effect it?
So I'm just curious about this I'm doing this method but inside Mt. Pyre cause I want a shiny Duskull so my question is if the pokemon runs away since you were too slow will the chain break? If so then Duskull is gonna be one giant pain in my behind to get.
Spectroid5 Try chaining it outside of Mt Pyre in the grass. On the way up to the top. I did Shuppet up there and got Wingull, but I think Duskull works there too. That way it won't move!
I'm currently on a chain of 330 Skarmory and pretty sure I haven't broken it as the levels and stuff have been following accordingly. And still no shiny. So either I'm doing this wrong, it doesn't work, or I'm having really bad luck. =/
I think this might be something as well, I accidentally scared away my chained Numel by running at it too fast. When I found another Numel my chain was gone. So that will also end your chain from the research I've done.
what is this normal i got it to level 12 batteled then it went to lv 3
Does anyone know: When he says the level increases by one every sixth encounter, does he mean each encounter that is a multiple of six (6,12,18,24...) or each encounter that is after the fifth/+10 (6,11,16,21...)?
Christopher Bly Say you start with Lotad at lv 5. On your 5th Lotad (or 5th pokemon in the Dexnav) it'll be Lv15. The 6th Pokemon will be level 6. The 10th Pokemon will be lv 16. The 11th Pokemon will be lv 7. Follow?
What am I doing wrong? Every time i search for the Pokemon that I want (yes, I have caught it) it just says that "It couldn't be found nearby, try looking in a different spot!"
I don't understand, do I need to reach a certain point in the game to actually have them appear?
Deadinthehed Not finding a pokemon is not a big deal, just encounter the next pokemon with the sneaking technique. I just posted a video of me finding Shiny Wingull. Watch that for an idea of what I mean =]
aDrive tK Let me try to explain better, I did a pretty poor job. What I meant was that I can't even find a Pokemon to START the chain. I'm looking for Roselia over in route 117, and I can't get any Pokemon to show up at all. I tried 2 other routes later and both of them worked fine. I noticed that on those other 2 routes that I had the bronze catching medal, so I went back to route 117 and caught more and got the bronze, and it worked... Kind of. I was able to start a chain, but after KOing the Pokemon, I can't get the search to work for Roselia, no matter how many other Pokemon I KO by finding them by sneaking. It appears to work fine on other routes, but for whatever reason I'm having trouble with Roselia (or any other Pokemon for that matter) on route 117. Any ideas?
Thanks got a shiny skarmory thanks to you :)
aDrive can i save and turn off the game, then restart the game? Is my shiny chain still working? It's because I do not have so much time for these 200+ chains in a row.
No the chain breaks