Writing banter without chemistry just leads you to the awkward situation where you have a room full of characters and none of them seem to like each other.
The way I see it, chemistry is when putting two characters together gives those characters a chance to a. Grow or b. Reveal something about themselves Again, it's a broad topic, but I'll use your example. Awkward banter would be marvel style humor. We are both firing off witty one liners and insults just because. Engaging banter will reveal or stretch a character. Character A pokes at the other. He does so with a quirked brow and faint smirk. He's usually a straight man, so it's REVEALED he actually does have a sense of humor, one that's brought out by character B. So its REVEALED character B intrigues him It's a good line, but character B doesn't even flinch. With a similarly quirked brow but flattened lips she cooly fires back. Her posture is completely relaxed, slightly turned away. It's REVEALED she smart and secure, just as prepared to "defend" herself, not as personally invested as he is, but still willing to engage Character A pauses. It's a good retort, he can't coast this interaction. He has to stretch and adapt to not "lose" this interaction, and to keep the attention of one who was more aloof than expected. There is challenge he must GROW into You probably felt chemistry even here with things just being boringly explained instead of demonstrated. Good chemistry (easier said than done, and with MANY ways to do it) with cause BOTH characters to be challenged and given OPPORTUNITY to grow BECAUSE of the presence of the other, not just exterior circumstance--taking or rejecting that opportunity are both valid stories And both characters will be given opportunity to REVEAL who they are, again, due to the other and not just circumstance--this person makes them so mad they speak from their heart in anger, or so comfortable they will slowly open up and reveal the truth gently, or they inspire each other in different ways to explore new facets of themselves or try new things.
1. Two sides of the same coin: they have something in common that connects them, then they also have aspects that are opposites 2. Complements: one character's weakness is saved by the other character and vice versa 3. Fight for status: power, witty back and forth banter, etc.
A good pairing requires similar substance, but different styles. It cannot be random, what the two characters have in common and where they differ: they need to be similar in their core, view on life, but different when it comes to acting about it. Different paths to the same objective. Which is also what makes them complementary. The power/wit struggle is part of the process of mutual recognition: they challenge eachother's facade to get to the common ground lying beneath; and back again, forcing the other to acknowledge a different approach to said common ground. So neither really backs out, hence the constant push and pull. Speaking of Deadpool and Wolverine,... I think it's not it. Sorry. They are polar opposites at their core, who coincidentally happen to be in the same predicament and react to it in very similar ways: they are superficially similar and substantially different, which is the worst combination in hell... They are both desperate for purpose and meaning, both get violent when frustrated, both do alcohol/drugs to deal with the past, both avoid talking about what's important...in a coherent scenario, they drag eachother down. As for how deep their difference runs... Wolverine has a strong moral compass, Deadpool doesn't even know of such a thing nor cares. The reason why Wolverine feels like shit is that he's being too hard on himself, he's basically in voluntary exile; Deadpool, au contraire, can't live up to the smallest expectation, but still expects too much from others and that's his problem. This is how they got written in this movie, at least. Nothing in common whatsoever, except for the nasty fashion of dealing with failure. This is why they cannot help eachother, this is why it doesn't feel right.
Even characters who seem to be the same (sokka and aang are a good example) yet maintain good chemistry is because they have differences that fundamentally change the overall character. You cooked with that statement.
@@orionbeckler9163 That's an excellent example, I think people sleep on how good Aang and Sokka's chemistry is too. Sokka takes himself too seriously and is set on structure despite being just a normal guy, and Aang doesn't take himself serious enough and rather live carefree despite being the most powerful bender and important person in their world. They get along pretty well despite that because the way they cope with their problems is with humor.
They mirror each other a lot. Something that usually endlessly pisses people off but can also lead to explosive chemistry and strong friendships or relationships
Plot was super thin though compared to the other two. Perhaps the shallowest plot of all modern superhero movies. It also focused a bit too much on fan service and nostalgia bait in my opinion.
I think you’ve sorely forgotten the best source of fictional chemistry. The comedic best friends where there is ZERO tension and they’re almost EXACTLY the same. This includes Troy and Abed, Bill and Ted, etc. Of course there are small differences but they’re often treated as a single conglomerate of a character
That is true, and those relationships are so fun, but to say that Troy and Abed have zero tension is misleading. Some of Community's best moments come from when Abed and Troy's differences do pop up and cause problems, like the time they had a large pillow fight war because of disagreements on their pillow fort. With that said though, I think a key aspect of these conglomerate relationships is that while they may be the same to each other, they can still be different to other characters...much of the comedy in Community comes from how the others react to Troy and Abed's antics.
They're part of the same whole, but they're not the same. They're the yin to the others yang. They're id and ego. They're beautiful to watch because, individually they can't function, but together they're unstoppable.
Ive read books where the characters that are supposed to have chemistry and just don’t. Writers are the most important. Take the most recent venom movie, tom hardy is acting his ass pff but the writing is just not cutting it.
@kait33 They're important but I wouldnt say the most important. Like OP said, you can have good writing but if the actors aren't vibing then it comes off as clunky and awkward regardless. Both are equally important.
Deadpool & Wolverine was a pretty average movie in a lot of ways imo, but it was unadulterated FUN! Something that is in short supply these days! I totally get why it was so popular
Looking at it as a standalone movie I’d say it almost functions as a fun-bad movie. Looking at it as a meta satire of the recent awful marvel movies, it’s incredible
I am of the firm opinion that a movie doesn’t have to be objectively good to be subjectively fun and enjoyable. Maleficent 2 is a bad film in many respects, but I had a hell of a good time watching it, especially when the friggin PG bloodbath began. While something like writing can be objectively good or bad, fun is a subjective perception, but often one that many people share.
@@nicoleg2544 agreed…and who doesn’t like fun? Nothing wrong with a fun movie who’s sole purpose is to entertain you, if it does that for 2 hours, then it’s done it’s job!
I feel like in terms of structure and overall plot it's average but the actual character writing and comedy is reallly good. The comedy is also a lot better than the other movies cause it makes better use of Deadpool's fourth wall breaking tendencies.
Your movie can be both fun AND competently written. They're not mutually exclusive. These dumb fun movies are a cheap thrill with no real staying power. Marvel movies have nothing to say anymore. I'm not saying everything needs to be some deep commentary on society but a little sincerity would go a long way.
I appreciate this video gives praise to the writing in Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End. It is by no means a perfect movie, but I'm glad more people are starting realize a lot of the clever writing at play in that movie.
A crucial thing is to sometimes allow the actors to adapt the script, change some of the language and actually feel some chemistry without being held at gunpoint by the script. Remember, writing good dialogue is very difficult but in essence its words on a paper and the way the words are said by the actors entire body not just their intonations and vocal ranges dictates how it comes across on camera. Characters can also have great chemistry without saying a single word. I'm still figuring out this kind of universal language that has no words because often times it can be just as impactful as good dialouge.
My absolute favorite dynamic in any media ever is hyper-competent chaos gremlin blasting problems like a sniper using a bazooka & gentle giant always striving for the peaceful option because if they unleash their full power they are terrifying. I call it the "What's the problem? It worked" duo.
Wolverine and Deadpool DEFINITELY do not hate each. Wolverine certainly hates Deadpool but you might not have seen the previous two Deadpools if you think Wade doesn't have a raging hardon for Logan lmao
Yeah they definitely fight, but don't really hate each other. Plus, they know they're both immortal, so they often release their frustrations in ways that would normally kill a person, but that isn't too big a deal to them. Especially by the end of the movie, they end up good friends. Even though 'enemies to lovers' is the more common name for the trope, I'd say it fits more with the 'annoyances to lovers' trope
It's quite the opposite actually- the first two Deadpools illustrate exactly why he hates Wolverine in D&W. He idolizes Logan, but he got The Worst Logan instead, and has to make it work.
I can speak to good chemistry making the writing fun. I've got a couple characters that seem to have written the scenes themselves and I'm more like the guy just documenting what they're saying instead of being the guy who actually came up with it. I'm not quite sure how it happened like that, but I'm very proud of it
Is there a name for this????? For when you feel like the dude looking out the window at this whole story just happening and you're just writing it down as you watch it? I get that too! Is that how it works for everyone? A lot of writing tutorials tell you to make detailed outline and whatnot and i'm here waving my arms at my characters like, "But these ppl are just doing what they want!"
@JhadeSagrav I've felt like it can happen for anyone, if you've got a clear idea of what these characters are like. For me, I have two characters that go on a parallel arc. One is a dragon that doesn't like humans and the other is a human that doesn't like dragons, and circumstances force them to become dragon and rider. The human comes around to it a little quicker and the dragon is more stubborn, but their relationship is very much that of two people who originally can't stand to be around each other, but as time goes on, they come to be friends, but still act like they don't like each other with antics similar to an older and younger sibling. And it's made for some fun moments with the more willing human trying to coax the stubborn dragon out of his shell, while the dragon's growing compassion for the human mostly comes across through him pretending to still be annoyed by his rider. Keeping their personalities mostly in line with their main trait (willingness to change for the human and stubbornness for the dragon) I think is what helps their dialogue write itself because then it's more clear what one's reaction to the other will generally be.
@@JhadeSagrav I almost call it "method writing" (from method acting) only because "incident report writer" doesn't make sense to anyone else 😅 some of us can get into character a little too well and next thing you know they're creatively swearing at you at 11 pm because you need sleep but you absolutely need to write down this stupid dialogue exchange or you'll forget in the morning
Currently feeling this with two characters who are in a very slow burn enemies-to-lovers arc. One is very jaded and the other sarcastic but they're on the same team so they can't actually fight each other and it devolves to verbal barbs so easily which is exactly what I wanted from them. They could argue over anything just to get a rise out of the other and it's so easy to do because of their personalities. They're going to be inseparable 😂
8:03 Fun fact: the words "compliment" and "complement" are two different words. One means to say nice things about someone and the other means to work well with someone or something else in an area that other thing doesn't do well in. Incredibly common misconception and the only reason I know is cause I'm an English nerd, maybe you already knew that, but I think it's interesting at least, one letter difference
i think the ocean’s movies (most specifically the first one) are such great examples of good chemistry and good film dialogue paired together - danny and rusty’s easy exchanges that make it immediately clear how well and how long they’ve known each other, and danny and tess’ dialogue that shows their history and tension so well. and even the brothers bickering feels so natural. it makes the movies easier to watch because while you’re basically getting the bare minimum amount of info from the dialogue, you don’t really need it because of the characters chemistry in delivering that dialogue. i love those movies and i loove analyzing dialogue
I find largely most people fumble with writing or understanding chemistry because they think chemistry looks like characters being "a couple". There's so much emphasis placed on what they look like together that the writing forgets to consider them as individuals each bringing something unique to the interaction. I think the way you illustrated it as just energy moving between two separate entities is the right way to view it. It doesn't much matter what form beyond that the relationship of the characters takes, but if you stop considering them as two (or more) unique units and only see them as one relationship, then there's nowhere for the energy to flow.
There’s something about two characters that utterly despise one another that just make you wanna ship them together. Half of it is that they’re deeply emotionally invested in the other (even if that emotional investment is that one wants to see the other bleed out slowly) Also the “similar but not the same” thing is why the lancer of a group is often shipped with the leader or a hero with the villain, They’re usually foils for each other.
I think when it comes to character chemistry, it's not really a fundamental rule that it has to be opposites to get good chemistry. As mentioned in another comment, Troy and Abed from Community have amazing chemistry with each other, and personality wise they are pretty much identical in that they are both goofy nerds who consistently do nerdy things together. Now they do have tiny differences in how they interact with their nerdy stuff, but one main reason the chemistry works is how in-synch they are, almost like they are sharing two-brain cells. For me personally, I always enjoy the chemistry where two characters are wholesomely so much alike each other that it leads to fun interactions like snappy dialogue exchanges or in an action cartoon maybe sick combo moves.
With Troy and Abed, I think we forget how different their backgrounds are, because they're so in sync. But those opposite backgrounds provide the bedrock for why their friendship is so touching. So just basking in the childlike joy of their love for one another is a pleasure on its own, because we're always unconsciously present with how it nurtures what each character has always lacked on their own.
Rust and Marty from True Detective are great examples of what you talk about in this video. Such great chemistry between two very different people that hate each other but bounce off each other so well.
I wouldn't say they hate each other. They just can't stand each other. Not the same. These are best friends, despite all their resentment. In fact, I think the resentment comes from that more than anything. Even when they stop talking for all those years, I don't think it's out of hate. It's the kind of resentment that comes from love.
Love how you comment on status. The approach and awareness of status in every scene is taught in acting school, so it's definitely something that trained actors, at least, consciously exploit!
I had a feeling you'd showcase Jack Sparrow and Will Turner in some capacity. They bounce off one another so well because on paper, they really shouldn't get along. Their initial lack of respect for each other allowed them to speak more openly and bond in a way that's quite unusual. Jack has a quiet respect for his quartermaster Mr. Gibbs, but he really cares for Will. You'd never see Gibbs argue with Jack, but Will straight up handed Jack over to Davey Jones. Funny how that works. But then if you take Pirates 5, Jack never really warms to Henry, despite him giving Jack the same lip Will Turner did throughout the original trilogy. A lot of credit goes to the actors but there was also a level of playfulness to the writing between Jack and Will in the original trilogy. The dynamic between Jack and Henry in Pirates 5 was just bland. Henry had apathy for Jack, whereas Will would actually treat him like an equal despite their disagreements.
Henry is bland as a character to start with. While Will (though Orlando Bloom is not a terrific actor) has passion and sense of humour and is strongheaded and sometimes smart. You can't have chemistry if your reactants are just too diluted.
My favorite dynamic is Saw Gerrera and Luthen Rael in Andor One is a hard-shelled warrior who listens to no one, and will die fighting to win the small battles The other is a tactical spy who knows that some people have to die to keep the greater cause alive until the war is won
And the moment Saw turned around to become a team player, Luthen told him not to play along. That Saw joining kreeger would be the wrong decision on a strategic level.
Morty is definitively more emotionally intelligent than Rick, and they _do_ have scenes and episodes about that. He's much more in touch with the human element and his own emotions. Scenes like the famous "come watch TV" and the episode in which he turns into a manipulative genious as soon as he gets rid of his toxic insecurity suggest this. The reason Rick doesn't learn from him is because Rick refuses to learn from _anyone_ let alone Morty. That is also kind of the point of the dynamic.
Something I love about Clarice and Hannibal is that it's almost... a power fantasy? Many of us have been in Clarice's position, especially if you're a woman: Men don't take you seriously, you're clever but not quite clever _enough_ ... yet. There's this constant background hum of humiliation. Then you meet someone who despite yourself, you want to impress, but you're always on the back foot because they're older, wiser, better- and then, for a moment, you get a victory. And they concede. You shouldn't crave it, but you do.
Oh, this is brilliant advice, actually! The trying to gain power thing, I mean. So lovely hearing something new after being in the story/movie analysis ytube community for a decade! Well done!!
Hearing "similar values, they might have different personalities and philosophies they live by, fearless disagree on how something should be done, but they both agree it has to be done" and thinking about my boyfriend, my friends, my mom... Damn it makes so much sense
I wish you would start covering animation as well and widen the horizons both you and your audience could explore! One of the most underrated forms of chemistry is platonic chemistry, and with the way Jujutsu Kaisen blew up this year it’s a shame you missed out on talking about Gojo and Geto or Megumi and Nobara. Or even dreamwork’s The Wild Robot- the whole basis of that movie is the softer chemistry between the main character and her surroundings.
I wouldn’t exactly call Gojo and Geto “platonic” lol, I’m not a shipper or anything but it definitely feels like there is an unspoken romantic undertone to their relationship
@@gavo7911 idk I think that’s a very western approach to relationships. Here in the East, friendships are given a lot more importance and depth in media even down to the way our languages work. There isn’t any statement that’s connotes “just friends” in most eastern and Asian languages, like Japanese, and friendships are more often equivocated to soulmates rather than romantic love. The depth of Platonic love is something that is everywhere, of course, but it’s a lot more prominently portrayed and focused on in the east when compared to the west, especially male friendships. Plus (and this is just a personal thing) for me, the intentionality of the writer matters so the fact both Gojo and Geto are canonically straight just confirms what most of us already knew but it doesn’t take away from the relationship at all. In my opinion, and probably the opinion of most eastern people, it adds depth.
Great video man! It’s a concept that is so crucial to making a movie good, but most people think it’s “easy” and just banter like you said. This vid rlly explained it well
See but this is what i want. I want a formula that explains why the trash i wrote is boring and how to fix that. My brain is a trash brain that thinks in math and poetry (i know... send help). I just want a simple, complicated, comprehensive formula that explains how to 'rite gud', ya know??
@@JhadeSagravread your writing out loud to yourself with intent to edit. Say whatever comes to your head while recording. Sometimes doing this you can come up with more natural dialogue rather than being forced. Do it multiple times even.
It's undeniable that the writing is a critical component, but the best writing in the world can't save a film that is just miscast, the actors don't "understand the assignment", or their personalities (natural, or assumed) just don't click. But sometimes, the right actors can make the worst writing watchable.
Kind of like with sports teams. It’s not about just getting all the top stars (not that you’d have the budget for it), but also players who compliment and work well together. And while not really a team sports, F1, it’s been repeatedly shown to never have 2 top talents in one team, because that never goes down well, for the whole team
One of the best chemistry examples are Dandellion and Geralt, but not from the show, rather from the books. It's a classic 'opposites attract', yet they also seem so familiar to each other, their relationship seems natural.
I'd say the most general rule of chemistry is the most general rule of storytelling: everything is in service to evaluating and developing concepts. If stories are about a single question and the characters serve to illustrate the different viewpoints of that question, then chemistry stems from the character's ability to converse with the audience in illustrating and developing an idea. In the case of contrasts, you present two sides to one thought. With similar characters, it's a more magnified examination of which version is best. It really just comes down to how provoking the chemistry is to the audience's interest in the ideas at play.
I'm happy you ised footage of The Nice Guys on this. That duo was fenomanal and I very sad they didn't make a sequel, or just worked together on another project. Them together was really cool.
Another great example from a current series is Kamen Rider Gavv: both of the main Riders are trying to be as cool as they think the other guy is while neither of them realizes they're both dorks. It's a dynamic based on admiration and respect that's not always warranted and it's as hilarious as it is endearing.
My vote for best romantic chemistry is Evie and Rick O'connell from the mummy. Heck even Jonathan as part of their team has great chemistry as they riff off each other. And it's great an actress as Maria Bello is that sequel that doesn't exist thank you very much proves its easier said than done
This is a really good breakdown on chemistry that has friction, but there’s also chemistry that’s just. Butter smooth. Jesse and James, Simon Pegg and Nick Frost. I do agree with your definition though; the fun part of them is the way they yes, and one anothers’ energy
They way I like to describe chemistry in media is like a science project. You've got two people that might not be as reactive to just anything, but TOGETHER, they react a LOT.
The difference between book sherlock and adaptation sherlock I think is the fact that in a book you have a chance to analyze a characters actions in much more depth. Whereas in a movie there is mostly action and maybe commentary that bring the character their personality. So, in order to emphasize the key features of sherlock they had to dile down some others
Seeing this video made me realize that in the story I’m writing, I accidentally made 2 of my main characters (who are best friends) opposites of each other. This whole video has actually made me more confident with writing my story. Let’s just hope that confidence actually allows me to write good
let me cook with a very pretty and handsome introvert who only talks to people when they talk first, and an extroverted character who prefers to be alone but is simply too nice to ignore anyone who looks down or alone.
One other great example you didn’t mention is how quite often in Doctor Who the chemistry between The Doctor & the companion(s) can ultimately be what makes or breaks it (or at least in my personal opinion does anyway). So with the latest series for example if the 15th Doctor & Ruby’s chemistry wasn’t anywhere near as good as I personally thought it was (and no I don’t care if they got on almost “too well”), I wouldn’t have enjoyed it nearly half as much as I did, and when that actually is the case (like I personally found with 13 & her ‘fam’) it really takes away from the overall quality of the episodes (if there even was any to begin with of course) and leaves you feeling a bit cold. Not to mention as well it is lot of times a very similar dynamic to Sherlock & Watson’s like you said (particularly in the Steven Moffat era when he was pretty much writing both shows at the same time) in that The Doctor can sometimes have a real lack of humanity & show just how alien they truly are and it’s up to the companion to both metaphorically AND literally bring them back down to Earth in order to make them see things straight and from a better perspective
In short, as always: More *thematic* conflict. The characters aren’t merely opposites of each other, they take opposing stances on one of the story’s themes. (I emphasise “thematic” for a reason, as most authors these days hear “MOAR CONFLICT” and think it means more pointless b*tching and bickering between characters about trivial things. That, however, is in fact a k*ller of chemistry, since it makes all the characters involved come off as divas.)
Tell me about it. I re-rendered this video 9 times, editing out the section that glitched, but it was like playing wack-a-mole. The same noise kept reappearing somewhere else in the video. I ran out of time in the end and just had to publish with the glitch still in 😥
@@TheCloserLook Considering the RUclips app I am watching on was rewinding to that time with that noise when I clicked the comments section several times preventing me from getting into comments until I paused it there I think that either this isn't your fault or you may have ran into something really crazy that you might want to warn RUclips tech support about so they can handle their end whether it originates from your video or not. Also before you ask if wondering since it might be relavant this is the 1st video I have watched today so I can not one way or another give any idea if this is unique to this video, though if I run into it elsewhere I can come back with an update. Anyways good luck and good video so far that I am going to go finish now and have a nice day/night!
I'm immediately suspicious when someone brings up the candy pair of the blonde-blue eyed bond movie and then promises to tell me how "hannibal and clarisse" of the SILENCE OF THE LAMBS MOVIE has 'superb chemistry' like this is something any audience who has watched it wouldnt know
I like how you pointed out that in original books Sherlock's character was a bit different, more polite and socially capable. But it was actually pretty smart of the movies to make him more rude and out-of-pocket, so that it's Watson who grounds him and takes care of social interactions
I would have liked to see you analyse the chemistry between two women as seeking the upper hand in conversation is a stereotypically male trait and I can't help but wonder if it would be noticeable between two women who have great chemistry
Another really good example of great chemistry in marvel is Matt and frank in daredevil season 2. I seem to always gravitate back towards their roof debate
An example of characters who aren't opposite at all and actually have lots in common yet have great chemistry is Giorno Giovanna and Bruno Bucciarati from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. They share ideals and have endless resolve to finish their mission no matter what comes their way.
Rick O’Connell/Evie Carnahan from the Mummy (the Adventurer and Librarian, the Mummy) complete opposites who love adventure. Darcy and Elizabeth (Pride and Prejudice) complete opposites but have shared values. Kate and Anthony (Bridgerton) not complete opposites but very similar, very similar intensity so the misunderstanding and hiding of authenticity is the conflict.
A pretty good example of Mentor/Mentee chemistry that also works as exposition is Dick Halloran and Danny Torrence in The Shining. The way he talks to Danny, trying to gently but firmly educate a child about something deeply dangerous and cryptic. It's very good.
imo, character chemistry is the most important part of an engaging story. you get both emotional connection and entertainment value, what more do they need?
This is a great video but I can’t stress enough how much it bugged me that you kept saying “Sherlock and Watson” instead of “Holmes and Watson” or “Sherlock and John” 😂
What about frodo and Sam. They have cemetstry. Not the funny kind of legolas and gimli but we still injoy watching them together. They just appear as friends. Just a question. 😊
0:36 Correction: Wolverine hates Deadpool's guts throughout most of the movie. Deadpool is gay for Wolvie and doesn't even try to hide it. (Deadpool's also canonically pansexual in some timelines, iirc)
One of my favorite examples of great chemistry is Takumi and itsuki from Initial D. They are best friends and you can tell. They are polar opposite with one being exited and one not giving a crap about anything. They to tend to be annoyed by each other but they care about each other immensely and throughout the entire show, they were there for each other when it mattered most. One day itsuki bought what he the thought was an AE86 (which is baisically a Corolla) but was actually the inferior AE85. His friends made fun of him, except for Takumi, takumi consoled itsuki saying who cares, it's his own car. And then they went on a joyride in the 85 on the mountain, three street racers made fun of itsuki and his car and Takumi got pissed, and he proceeded to show everyone that the 85 is cool while also humbling thise jerks. Itsuki fell in love with his car that day and ever since then, he would improve as a driver with his 85. Another day Takumi lost his girlfriend, and his engine blew up in the middle of a race. He was distraught and the next day he blew up at itsuki. Itsuki didn't know about what happened and soon found out, and instead of watching a race he really wanted to say, he decides to take his car hang out with Takumi to show that he cares. Not to mention they bounce off of each other very well. If you want to see one the best and most realistic friendships in fiction, Initial D.
Writing banter without chemistry just leads you to the awkward situation where you have a room full of characters and none of them seem to like each other.
That’s very true.
The way I see it, chemistry is when putting two characters together gives those characters a chance to a. Grow or b. Reveal something about themselves
Again, it's a broad topic, but I'll use your example.
Awkward banter would be marvel style humor. We are both firing off witty one liners and insults just because.
Engaging banter will reveal or stretch a character.
Character A pokes at the other. He does so with a quirked brow and faint smirk. He's usually a straight man, so it's REVEALED he actually does have a sense of humor, one that's brought out by character B. So its REVEALED character B intrigues him
It's a good line, but character B doesn't even flinch. With a similarly quirked brow but flattened lips she cooly fires back. Her posture is completely relaxed, slightly turned away. It's REVEALED she smart and secure, just as prepared to "defend" herself, not as personally invested as he is, but still willing to engage
Character A pauses. It's a good retort, he can't coast this interaction. He has to stretch and adapt to not "lose" this interaction, and to keep the attention of one who was more aloof than expected. There is challenge he must GROW into
You probably felt chemistry even here with things just being boringly explained instead of demonstrated.
Good chemistry (easier said than done, and with MANY ways to do it) with cause BOTH characters to be challenged and given OPPORTUNITY to grow BECAUSE of the presence of the other, not just exterior circumstance--taking or rejecting that opportunity are both valid stories
And both characters will be given opportunity to REVEAL who they are, again, due to the other and not just circumstance--this person makes them so mad they speak from their heart in anger, or so comfortable they will slowly open up and reveal the truth gently, or they inspire each other in different ways to explore new facets of themselves or try new things.
Wtf was this! I need to know if you write and if I can read anything that you wrote cause that was incredible!
Fantastic 4
Every single 90s-2000s popular sitcom without exception.
1. Two sides of the same coin: they have something in common that connects them, then they also have aspects that are opposites
2. Complements: one character's weakness is saved by the other character and vice versa
3. Fight for status: power, witty back and forth banter, etc.
The perfect recipe
Zoro and Sanji I think are a great example of all these qualities
A good pairing requires similar substance, but different styles. It cannot be random, what the two characters have in common and where they differ: they need to be similar in their core, view on life, but different when it comes to acting about it. Different paths to the same objective. Which is also what makes them complementary.
The power/wit struggle is part of the process of mutual recognition: they challenge eachother's facade to get to the common ground lying beneath; and back again, forcing the other to acknowledge a different approach to said common ground. So neither really backs out, hence the constant push and pull.
Speaking of Deadpool and Wolverine,... I think it's not it. Sorry.
They are polar opposites at their core, who coincidentally happen to be in the same predicament and react to it in very similar ways: they are superficially similar and substantially different, which is the worst combination in hell...
They are both desperate for purpose and meaning, both get violent when frustrated, both do alcohol/drugs to deal with the past, both avoid talking about what's important...in a coherent scenario, they drag eachother down. As for how deep their difference runs... Wolverine has a strong moral compass, Deadpool doesn't even know of such a thing nor cares. The reason why Wolverine feels like shit is that he's being too hard on himself, he's basically in voluntary exile; Deadpool, au contraire, can't live up to the smallest expectation, but still expects too much from others and that's his problem.
This is how they got written in this movie, at least. Nothing in common whatsoever, except for the nasty fashion of dealing with failure. This is why they cannot help eachother, this is why it doesn't feel right.
*Complements- not compliments
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Chemistry is called chemistry for a reason - you only get a reaction when it’s the right chemicals. And not from the same two.
Even characters who seem to be the same (sokka and aang are a good example) yet maintain good chemistry is because they have differences that fundamentally change the overall character. You cooked with that statement.
❤this.
@@orionbeckler9163 That's an excellent example, I think people sleep on how good Aang and Sokka's chemistry is too. Sokka takes himself too seriously and is set on structure despite being just a normal guy, and Aang doesn't take himself serious enough and rather live carefree despite being the most powerful bender and important person in their world. They get along pretty well despite that because the way they cope with their problems is with humor.
@ exactly, it is truly peak writing, I couldn’t have said it better myself.
hydrogen, nitrogen, fluorine, oxygen, iodine, chlorine, and bromine
so... sometimes! people always find ways to make something work
Both Deadpool & Wolverine has a few things in common.
1. They both are descended from Canada
2. They both have regeneration
3. They both have blades
they both are victims of horrific non-consensual experimentation by the same organization
The kind of Canadians that those of many Canadians wish they could be in this day and age.
@VictorNieves-o3o A lot of the stuff Logan said to Wade in his rant in the car could also be applied to Logan himself.
Probably both self-loathing bastards
They mirror each other a lot. Something that usually endlessly pisses people off but can also lead to explosive chemistry and strong friendships or relationships
I cannot properly express the joy I felt when you mentioned Aziraphale and Crowley
I'm pretty sure they're the reason this video showed up in my algorithm 😅 Just waited for them to appear.
Me too 🤩
Same! I love how they complement each other
ME TOO!!! I was listening to the video in the background but the second I heard Aziraphale's name, it was like a dog's ears flicking up
@@alinachrist8416 they are the yin to each others yang
I watched Deadpool and Wolverine in theatres with a few buddies and it was honestly one of the most fun experiences I’ve had this year
I watched it with my dad, and I had a pretty similar experience
Same here
I saw it 3 times, once with my brother, once on my phone and then with my 2 best friends
If nothing else, they nailed the fun factor.
Plot was super thin though compared to the other two. Perhaps the shallowest plot of all modern superhero movies. It also focused a bit too much on fan service and nostalgia bait in my opinion.
I think you’ve sorely forgotten the best source of fictional chemistry. The comedic best friends where there is ZERO tension and they’re almost EXACTLY the same. This includes Troy and Abed, Bill and Ted, etc. Of course there are small differences but they’re often treated as a single conglomerate of a character
That is true, and those relationships are so fun, but to say that Troy and Abed have zero tension is misleading. Some of Community's best moments come from when Abed and Troy's differences do pop up and cause problems, like the time they had a large pillow fight war because of disagreements on their pillow fort. With that said though, I think a key aspect of these conglomerate relationships is that while they may be the same to each other, they can still be different to other characters...much of the comedy in Community comes from how the others react to Troy and Abed's antics.
There’s also JD and Turk from Scrubs.
Jay and Silent Bob
They're part of the same whole, but they're not the same. They're the yin to the others yang. They're id and ego.
They're beautiful to watch because, individually they can't function, but together they're unstoppable.
robert and rosalind lutece, who are literally the same person from different worlds
I think chemistry comes down to the actors. A writer can write their damndest, but if the actors aren't gelling, there's nothing to be done about it.
Yes, and a good chemistry between the actors can save even poorly written dialogue.
Some ppl write books lol
Ive read books where the characters that are supposed to have chemistry and just don’t. Writers are the most important. Take the most recent venom movie, tom hardy is acting his ass pff but the writing is just not cutting it.
@kait33 They're important but I wouldnt say the most important. Like OP said, you can have good writing but if the actors aren't vibing then it comes off as clunky and awkward regardless. Both are equally important.
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a combination of the most far fetched plot yet the most real interactions
Deadpool & Wolverine was a pretty average movie in a lot of ways imo, but it was unadulterated FUN! Something that is in short supply these days! I totally get why it was so popular
Looking at it as a standalone movie I’d say it almost functions as a fun-bad movie. Looking at it as a meta satire of the recent awful marvel movies, it’s incredible
I am of the firm opinion that a movie doesn’t have to be objectively good to be subjectively fun and enjoyable. Maleficent 2 is a bad film in many respects, but I had a hell of a good time watching it, especially when the friggin PG bloodbath began. While something like writing can be objectively good or bad, fun is a subjective perception, but often one that many people share.
@@nicoleg2544 agreed…and who doesn’t like fun? Nothing wrong with a fun movie who’s sole purpose is to entertain you, if it does that for 2 hours, then it’s done it’s job!
I feel like in terms of structure and overall plot it's average but the actual character writing and comedy is reallly good. The comedy is also a lot better than the other movies cause it makes better use of Deadpool's fourth wall breaking tendencies.
Your movie can be both fun AND competently written. They're not mutually exclusive. These dumb fun movies are a cheap thrill with no real staying power. Marvel movies have nothing to say anymore. I'm not saying everything needs to be some deep commentary on society but a little sincerity would go a long way.
I appreciate this video gives praise to the writing in Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End. It is by no means a perfect movie, but I'm glad more people are starting realize a lot of the clever writing at play in that movie.
The Pirate's trilogy is as good as Lord of The Ring only if they stopped it at just 3 movies
A crucial thing is to sometimes allow the actors to adapt the script, change some of the language and actually feel some chemistry without being held at gunpoint by the script.
Remember, writing good dialogue is very difficult but in essence its words on a paper and the way the words are said by the actors entire body not just their intonations and vocal ranges dictates how it comes across on camera.
Characters can also have great chemistry without saying a single word. I'm still figuring out this kind of universal language that has no words because often times it can be just as impactful as good dialouge.
Good chemistry is so difficult to do right but so easy to love
Best example of CHEMISTRY for me is Death Note, the dynamic between Light and L is a masterpiece of writing
There are a lot of dynamics that are better than Light and L. Their dynamic is very overrated
Zoro and Sanji is peak anime chemistry
@@Nanabebe-m2r I can't stand people like you
Agreed so much on this.
@@Nanabebe-m2r key word "for me." you dont have to comment thinking something is overrated... doesnt mean it isnt good
My absolute favorite dynamic in any media ever is hyper-competent chaos gremlin blasting problems like a sniper using a bazooka & gentle giant always striving for the peaceful option because if they unleash their full power they are terrifying. I call it the "What's the problem? It worked" duo.
Like Rocket and Groot.
@@Laurelin70 Yes!!
Love this trope so much I made it all my characters... i need to change that 😭
@@Taekaleaf Noooo lemme read what you made first T.T
Wolverine and Deadpool DEFINITELY do not hate each. Wolverine certainly hates Deadpool but you might not have seen the previous two Deadpools if you think Wade doesn't have a raging hardon for Logan lmao
I don't understand how people don't get it just from this movie.
Yeah they definitely fight, but don't really hate each other. Plus, they know they're both immortal, so they often release their frustrations in ways that would normally kill a person, but that isn't too big a deal to them. Especially by the end of the movie, they end up good friends. Even though 'enemies to lovers' is the more common name for the trope, I'd say it fits more with the 'annoyances to lovers' trope
It's quite the opposite actually- the first two Deadpools illustrate exactly why he hates Wolverine in D&W. He idolizes Logan, but he got The Worst Logan instead, and has to make it work.
Captain Jack Sparrow & Hector Barbossa's relationship is just amazing yet so unappreciated by most people.
“What arrr you doing?”
“What are you doing?”
“No what ARRRRR you doing?!”
@@kingDowahs Best Frenemies.😄
I can speak to good chemistry making the writing fun. I've got a couple characters that seem to have written the scenes themselves and I'm more like the guy just documenting what they're saying instead of being the guy who actually came up with it. I'm not quite sure how it happened like that, but I'm very proud of it
Is there a name for this????? For when you feel like the dude looking out the window at this whole story just happening and you're just writing it down as you watch it? I get that too! Is that how it works for everyone? A lot of writing tutorials tell you to make detailed outline and whatnot and i'm here waving my arms at my characters like, "But these ppl are just doing what they want!"
@JhadeSagrav I've felt like it can happen for anyone, if you've got a clear idea of what these characters are like. For me, I have two characters that go on a parallel arc. One is a dragon that doesn't like humans and the other is a human that doesn't like dragons, and circumstances force them to become dragon and rider. The human comes around to it a little quicker and the dragon is more stubborn, but their relationship is very much that of two people who originally can't stand to be around each other, but as time goes on, they come to be friends, but still act like they don't like each other with antics similar to an older and younger sibling. And it's made for some fun moments with the more willing human trying to coax the stubborn dragon out of his shell, while the dragon's growing compassion for the human mostly comes across through him pretending to still be annoyed by his rider. Keeping their personalities mostly in line with their main trait (willingness to change for the human and stubbornness for the dragon) I think is what helps their dialogue write itself because then it's more clear what one's reaction to the other will generally be.
@@JhadeSagrav I almost call it "method writing" (from method acting) only because "incident report writer" doesn't make sense to anyone else 😅 some of us can get into character a little too well and next thing you know they're creatively swearing at you at 11 pm because you need sleep but you absolutely need to write down this stupid dialogue exchange or you'll forget in the morning
Currently feeling this with two characters who are in a very slow burn enemies-to-lovers arc. One is very jaded and the other sarcastic but they're on the same team so they can't actually fight each other and it devolves to verbal barbs so easily which is exactly what I wanted from them. They could argue over anything just to get a rise out of the other and it's so easy to do because of their personalities. They're going to be inseparable 😂
8:03 Fun fact: the words "compliment" and "complement" are two different words. One means to say nice things about someone and the other means to work well with someone or something else in an area that other thing doesn't do well in. Incredibly common misconception and the only reason I know is cause I'm an English nerd, maybe you already knew that, but I think it's interesting at least, one letter difference
i think the ocean’s movies (most specifically the first one) are such great examples of good chemistry and good film dialogue paired together - danny and rusty’s easy exchanges that make it immediately clear how well and how long they’ve known each other, and danny and tess’ dialogue that shows their history and tension so well. and even the brothers bickering feels so natural. it makes the movies easier to watch because while you’re basically getting the bare minimum amount of info from the dialogue, you don’t really need it because of the characters chemistry in delivering that dialogue. i love those movies and i loove analyzing dialogue
0:16 I feel like I could go on for a while about everything I love in this scene. Right down to the camera shots.
I find largely most people fumble with writing or understanding chemistry because they think chemistry looks like characters being "a couple". There's so much emphasis placed on what they look like together that the writing forgets to consider them as individuals each bringing something unique to the interaction. I think the way you illustrated it as just energy moving between two separate entities is the right way to view it. It doesn't much matter what form beyond that the relationship of the characters takes, but if you stop considering them as two (or more) unique units and only see them as one relationship, then there's nowhere for the energy to flow.
There’s something about two characters that utterly despise one another that just make you wanna ship them together. Half of it is that they’re deeply emotionally invested in the other (even if that emotional investment is that one wants to see the other bleed out slowly)
Also the “similar but not the same” thing is why the lancer of a group is often shipped with the leader or a hero with the villain, They’re usually foils for each other.
I think when it comes to character chemistry, it's not really a fundamental rule that it has to be opposites to get good chemistry. As mentioned in another comment, Troy and Abed from Community have amazing chemistry with each other, and personality wise they are pretty much identical in that they are both goofy nerds who consistently do nerdy things together. Now they do have tiny differences in how they interact with their nerdy stuff, but one main reason the chemistry works is how in-synch they are, almost like they are sharing two-brain cells. For me personally, I always enjoy the chemistry where two characters are wholesomely so much alike each other that it leads to fun interactions like snappy dialogue exchanges or in an action cartoon maybe sick combo moves.
With Troy and Abed, I think we forget how different their backgrounds are, because they're so in sync. But those opposite backgrounds provide the bedrock for why their friendship is so touching. So just basking in the childlike joy of their love for one another is a pleasure on its own, because we're always unconsciously present with how it nurtures what each character has always lacked on their own.
long time fan of the channel, always a banger video
Thanks!
Rust and Marty from True Detective are great examples of what you talk about in this video. Such great chemistry between two very different people that hate each other but bounce off each other so well.
I wouldn't say they hate each other. They just can't stand each other. Not the same. These are best friends, despite all their resentment. In fact, I think the resentment comes from that more than anything. Even when they stop talking for all those years, I don't think it's out of hate. It's the kind of resentment that comes from love.
Love how you comment on status. The approach and awareness of status in every scene is taught in acting school, so it's definitely something that trained actors, at least, consciously exploit!
I had a feeling you'd showcase Jack Sparrow and Will Turner in some capacity.
They bounce off one another so well because on paper, they really shouldn't get along.
Their initial lack of respect for each other allowed them to speak more openly and bond in a way that's quite unusual.
Jack has a quiet respect for his quartermaster Mr. Gibbs, but he really cares for Will.
You'd never see Gibbs argue with Jack, but Will straight up handed Jack over to Davey Jones. Funny how that works.
But then if you take Pirates 5, Jack never really warms to Henry, despite him giving Jack the same lip Will Turner did throughout the original trilogy.
A lot of credit goes to the actors but there was also a level of playfulness to the writing between Jack and Will in the original trilogy.
The dynamic between Jack and Henry in Pirates 5 was just bland. Henry had apathy for Jack, whereas Will would actually treat him like an equal despite their disagreements.
Pirates 5 shouldn’t exist tbh
Henry is bland as a character to start with. While Will (though Orlando Bloom is not a terrific actor) has passion and sense of humour and is strongheaded and sometimes smart. You can't have chemistry if your reactants are just too diluted.
My favorite dynamic is Saw Gerrera and Luthen Rael in Andor
One is a hard-shelled warrior who listens to no one, and will die fighting to win the small battles
The other is a tactical spy who knows that some people have to die to keep the greater cause alive until the war is won
And the moment Saw turned around to become a team player, Luthen told him not to play along. That Saw joining kreeger would be the wrong decision on a strategic level.
"And Deadpool is explicitly- 7:38 a hero." - The Closer Look
I did not miss the choreography between your script and the on-screen footage here, Mr. Closer Look. 14:38-14:42
Morty is definitively more emotionally intelligent than Rick, and they _do_ have scenes and episodes about that. He's much more in touch with the human element and his own emotions. Scenes like the famous "come watch TV" and the episode in which he turns into a manipulative genious as soon as he gets rid of his toxic insecurity suggest this. The reason Rick doesn't learn from him is because Rick refuses to learn from _anyone_ let alone Morty. That is also kind of the point of the dynamic.
Something I love about Clarice and Hannibal is that it's almost... a power fantasy? Many of us have been in Clarice's position, especially if you're a woman: Men don't take you seriously, you're clever but not quite clever _enough_ ... yet. There's this constant background hum of humiliation. Then you meet someone who despite yourself, you want to impress, but you're always on the back foot because they're older, wiser, better- and then, for a moment, you get a victory. And they concede. You shouldn't crave it, but you do.
Oh, this is brilliant advice, actually! The trying to gain power thing, I mean. So lovely hearing something new after being in the story/movie analysis ytube community for a decade! Well done!!
Deadpool and Wolverine was a breath of fresh air in this cinema Dark age we are in.
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Hearing "similar values, they might have different personalities and philosophies they live by, fearless disagree on how something should be done, but they both agree it has to be done" and thinking about my boyfriend, my friends, my mom... Damn it makes so much sense
I wish you would start covering animation as well and widen the horizons both you and your audience could explore!
One of the most underrated forms of chemistry is platonic chemistry, and with the way Jujutsu Kaisen blew up this year it’s a shame you missed out on talking about Gojo and Geto or Megumi and Nobara.
Or even dreamwork’s The Wild Robot- the whole basis of that movie is the softer chemistry between the main character and her surroundings.
I wouldn’t exactly call Gojo and Geto “platonic” lol, I’m not a shipper or anything but it definitely feels like there is an unspoken romantic undertone to their relationship
@@gavo7911 idk I think that’s a very western approach to relationships.
Here in the East, friendships are given a lot more importance and depth in media even down to the way our languages work.
There isn’t any statement that’s connotes “just friends” in most eastern and Asian languages, like Japanese, and friendships are more often equivocated to soulmates rather than romantic love.
The depth of Platonic love is something that is everywhere, of course, but it’s a lot more prominently portrayed and focused on in the east when compared to the west, especially male friendships.
Plus (and this is just a personal thing) for me, the intentionality of the writer matters so the fact both Gojo and Geto are canonically straight just confirms what most of us already knew but it doesn’t take away from the relationship at all.
In my opinion, and probably the opinion of most eastern people, it adds depth.
Nobara and Yuji are def platonic soulmates too
Great video man! It’s a concept that is so crucial to making a movie good, but most people think it’s “easy” and just banter like you said. This vid rlly explained it well
I love your video essays. Thank you for making another great one.
I would love to see you watch and do an analysis on NBC Hannibal
How to write chemistry? But of course with formulas!
You got me.
The exit is on the right
See but this is what i want. I want a formula that explains why the trash i wrote is boring and how to fix that. My brain is a trash brain that thinks in math and poetry (i know... send help).
I just want a simple, complicated, comprehensive formula that explains how to 'rite gud', ya know??
@@JhadeSagravread your writing out loud to yourself with intent to edit. Say whatever comes to your head while recording. Sometimes doing this you can come up with more natural dialogue rather than being forced. Do it multiple times even.
It's undeniable that the writing is a critical component, but the best writing in the world can't save a film that is just miscast, the actors don't "understand the assignment", or their personalities (natural, or assumed) just don't click. But sometimes, the right actors can make the worst writing watchable.
Kind of like with sports teams. It’s not about just getting all the top stars (not that you’d have the budget for it), but also players who compliment and work well together.
And while not really a team sports, F1, it’s been repeatedly shown to never have 2 top talents in one team, because that never goes down well, for the whole team
One of the best chemistry examples are Dandellion and Geralt, but not from the show, rather from the books. It's a classic 'opposites attract', yet they also seem so familiar to each other, their relationship seems natural.
Character Chemistry
My mind : *RUSH HOUR*
I'd say the most general rule of chemistry is the most general rule of storytelling: everything is in service to evaluating and developing concepts. If stories are about a single question and the characters serve to illustrate the different viewpoints of that question, then chemistry stems from the character's ability to converse with the audience in illustrating and developing an idea. In the case of contrasts, you present two sides to one thought. With similar characters, it's a more magnified examination of which version is best. It really just comes down to how provoking the chemistry is to the audience's interest in the ideas at play.
I'm happy you ised footage of The Nice Guys on this. That duo was fenomanal and I very sad they didn't make a sequel, or just worked together on another project. Them together was really cool.
A perfect example for this video would be se7en. This duo had perfect chemistry and worked together perfectly, while being complete opposites
Another great example from a current series is Kamen Rider Gavv: both of the main Riders are trying to be as cool as they think the other guy is while neither of them realizes they're both dorks. It's a dynamic based on admiration and respect that's not always warranted and it's as hilarious as it is endearing.
Did you call her Lea Sedooku? 12:20
Yeah, I noticed that too. Don't blame Lea for badly written characters. The poor woman is doing the best she can with literally nothing.
So what I'm hearing is enemies to lovers is the best ship dynamic /j
My vote for best romantic chemistry is Evie and Rick O'connell from the mummy. Heck even Jonathan as part of their team has great chemistry as they riff off each other. And it's great an actress as Maria Bello is that sequel that doesn't exist thank you very much proves its easier said than done
"Lea Sudoku" made me spit out my beer laughing.
This is a really good breakdown on chemistry that has friction, but there’s also chemistry that’s just. Butter smooth. Jesse and James, Simon Pegg and Nick Frost. I do agree with your definition though; the fun part of them is the way they yes, and one anothers’ energy
They way I like to describe chemistry in media is like a science project. You've got two people that might not be as reactive to just anything, but TOGETHER, they react a LOT.
What a Surprise, missed your video for long 🥰
In reference to the best example of opposites with a lot in common I think of Samurai Champloo. 2:30
The difference between book sherlock and adaptation sherlock I think is the fact that in a book you have a chance to analyze a characters actions in much more depth. Whereas in a movie there is mostly action and maybe commentary that bring the character their personality. So, in order to emphasize the key features of sherlock they had to dile down some others
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@@triplem5770 Back at it again!
Seeing this video made me realize that in the story I’m writing, I accidentally made 2 of my main characters (who are best friends) opposites of each other. This whole video has actually made me more confident with writing my story. Let’s just hope that confidence actually allows me to write good
This video couldn’t have come at a better time 🕺
this may be the first time i actually wanted to check out nebula; i want to watch that exposition video lol
let me cook with a very pretty and handsome introvert who only talks to people when they talk first, and an extroverted character who prefers to be alone but is simply too nice to ignore anyone who looks down or alone.
One other great example you didn’t mention is how quite often in Doctor Who the chemistry between The Doctor & the companion(s) can ultimately be what makes or breaks it (or at least in my personal opinion does anyway).
So with the latest series for example if the 15th Doctor & Ruby’s chemistry wasn’t anywhere near as good as I personally thought it was (and no I don’t care if they got on almost “too well”), I wouldn’t have enjoyed it nearly half as much as I did, and when that actually is the case (like I personally found with 13 & her ‘fam’) it really takes away from the overall quality of the episodes (if there even was any to begin with of course) and leaves you feeling a bit cold.
Not to mention as well it is lot of times a very similar dynamic to Sherlock & Watson’s like you said (particularly in the Steven Moffat era when he was pretty much writing both shows at the same time) in that The Doctor can sometimes have a real lack of humanity & show just how alien they truly are and it’s up to the companion to both metaphorically AND literally bring them back down to Earth in order to make them see things straight and from a better perspective
The Doctor and Donna had such amazing chemistry. Absolutely perfect chemistry those two had.
Summary: Character chemistry is all about vibes
In short, as always: More *thematic* conflict. The characters aren’t merely opposites of each other, they take opposing stances on one of the story’s themes.
(I emphasise “thematic” for a reason, as most authors these days hear “MOAR CONFLICT” and think it means more pointless b*tching and bickering between characters about trivial things. That, however, is in fact a k*ller of chemistry, since it makes all the characters involved come off as divas.)
Unbearable scratching noise at 7:39 - let me know if I am the only one to hear it
Tell me about it. I re-rendered this video 9 times, editing out the section that glitched, but it was like playing wack-a-mole. The same noise kept reappearing somewhere else in the video.
I ran out of time in the end and just had to publish with the glitch still in 😥
@@TheCloserLook which editing software and version? Maybe it is documented somewhere
@@TheCloserLook Considering the RUclips app I am watching on was rewinding to that time with that noise when I clicked the comments section several times preventing me from getting into comments until I paused it there I think that either this isn't your fault or you may have ran into something really crazy that you might want to warn RUclips tech support about so they can handle their end whether it originates from your video or not.
Also before you ask if wondering since it might be relavant this is the 1st video I have watched today so I can not one way or another give any idea if this is unique to this video, though if I run into it elsewhere I can come back with an update.
Anyways good luck and good video so far that I am going to go finish now and have a nice day/night!
How would you go about writing good chemistry between groups?
i have so much to think about
One of my favourite videos!
Can you break down examples of bad chemistry?
All marvel movies
Is it possible to have chemistry between two characters that don't meet? i.e. a cop investigating a killer. I would love an expansion on the topic!
Patrick Jane and Red John to some extent???
@@lcako1616 Yeah actually, that's a pretty good example!
FINALLY! He uploads
This was awesome! It really helped!
I'm immediately suspicious when someone brings up the candy pair of the blonde-blue eyed bond movie and then promises to tell me how "hannibal and clarisse" of the SILENCE OF THE LAMBS MOVIE has 'superb chemistry' like this is something any audience who has watched it wouldnt know
I like how you pointed out that in original books Sherlock's character was a bit different, more polite and socially capable. But it was actually pretty smart of the movies to make him more rude and out-of-pocket, so that it's Watson who grounds him and takes care of social interactions
This is a wonderful video! Maybe your best in years.
You know who does the best chemistry? Walter White & Jesse
I would have liked to see you analyse the chemistry between two women as seeking the upper hand in conversation is a stereotypically male trait and I can't help but wonder if it would be noticeable between two women who have great chemistry
Could you make a video on Subplots and how to make them work properly in a story? I’m working on a novel and it would definitely help
i find it funny that we coined the term chemestry as that and not phisics as phisics is all about natural energy attraction and repeling XD
Another really good example of great chemistry in marvel is Matt and frank in daredevil season 2. I seem to always gravitate back towards their roof debate
An example of characters who aren't opposite at all and actually have lots in common yet have great chemistry is Giorno Giovanna and Bruno Bucciarati from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. They share ideals and have endless resolve to finish their mission no matter what comes their way.
Ocean’s 11 mentioned is an instant win.
Rick O’Connell/Evie Carnahan from the Mummy (the Adventurer and Librarian, the Mummy) complete opposites who love adventure. Darcy and Elizabeth (Pride and Prejudice) complete opposites but have shared values. Kate and Anthony (Bridgerton) not complete opposites but very similar, very similar intensity so the misunderstanding and hiding of authenticity is the conflict.
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This is just an average dnd moment and I love that.
This is GOLD.
Really great points here! Very nice script!
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Some of the best chemistry ive seen is in castlevania: alucard and the 2 hunters he fights his father dracula with
1:26 love the we need one more scene so much.
Not my accustc ass thinking this video is actually about chemistry 😂❤
A pretty good example of Mentor/Mentee chemistry that also works as exposition is Dick Halloran and Danny Torrence in The Shining. The way he talks to Danny, trying to gently but firmly educate a child about something deeply dangerous and cryptic. It's very good.
imo, character chemistry is the most important part of an engaging story. you get both emotional connection and entertainment value, what more do they need?
omg I'm so happy I hope he was going to do a video on these two 😆😆😆
Yay new closer look :)))
This is a great video but I can’t stress enough how much it bugged me that you kept saying “Sherlock and Watson” instead of “Holmes and Watson” or “Sherlock and John” 😂
Maybe that’s because of how the characters call each other in that film.
What about frodo and Sam. They have cemetstry. Not the funny kind of legolas and gimli but we still injoy watching them together. They just appear as friends. Just a question. 😊
They were literally in the video, just near the end.
0:36 Correction: Wolverine hates Deadpool's guts throughout most of the movie. Deadpool is gay for Wolvie and doesn't even try to hide it. (Deadpool's also canonically pansexual in some timelines, iirc)
The best chemistry on screen are the ones you know can happen in real life no matter the setting
One of my favorite examples of great chemistry is Takumi and itsuki from Initial D. They are best friends and you can tell. They are polar opposite with one being exited and one not giving a crap about anything. They to tend to be annoyed by each other but they care about each other immensely and throughout the entire show, they were there for each other when it mattered most. One day itsuki bought what he the thought was an AE86 (which is baisically a Corolla) but was actually the inferior AE85. His friends made fun of him, except for Takumi, takumi consoled itsuki saying who cares, it's his own car. And then they went on a joyride in the 85 on the mountain, three street racers made fun of itsuki and his car and Takumi got pissed, and he proceeded to show everyone that the 85 is cool while also humbling thise jerks. Itsuki fell in love with his car that day and ever since then, he would improve as a driver with his 85. Another day Takumi lost his girlfriend, and his engine blew up in the middle of a race. He was distraught and the next day he blew up at itsuki. Itsuki didn't know about what happened and soon found out, and instead of watching a race he really wanted to say, he decides to take his car hang out with Takumi to show that he cares.
Not to mention they bounce off of each other very well. If you want to see one the best and most realistic friendships in fiction, Initial D.