Travel luggage tip: get one of those travel luggage scales - they take up very little space, weigh ~100g, have 100g accuracy and with them you can max out your weight allowance every time.
Francis please! Don't use pitcher pumps for the right side of the magma. just raise the setup by one tile and the magma will flow from the right to the left so your pump can pupm it out.
That would work well for a lot of the magma but unfortunately the viscosity won't allow all of it to be pumped out, at least I don't think so. He would ultimately have to use pitcher pumps to transport the remaining magma. But you're right.. he should've gone that route xD good catch!
After the magma pressure has gone down, you could make a hole at the top and pump the lava from above. You would need to lower down the pump when the magma level drops, but it would also allow using multiple pumps.
The problem is magma viscosity. I mean if you look at the setup now the magma is not pushing up out of the bottom of the spike despite the pressure, it will be the same the other side. I did some playing around on a test map and could not figure out how to get it to work on the right, wait can you rotate pumps?
@@FrancisJohnYT - No pump rotating in vanilla. There's building rotation mods but I don't know if they're compatible with spaced out, a lot of mods don't work anymore.
Radbolt engine will be nerf in the next update, range lowered from 24 to 20, max radbolt capacity from 4800 to 4000, also, all rocket will consume 1 hexagon when launch and landing. but petroleum and hydrogen engine will get a buff of range 6 --> 9 and 9 --> 16 respectively. This nerf to Radbolt engines, will make more difficult get radbolts on early game. Also, they will add a broadcast transmitter, to send logic signal to another asteroid (and spacefarer), but only have 5 hexagon of range on star map. don't know if the range will be the same in asteroids. Edit: also they will add a new necreation building, like a telephone, dupes can talk with others dupes in long distances and get a morale bonus.
hexagon is the bestagon. Also there is gonna be a new recreational building which is a 1x2 smaller than the water cooler so it is great for great halls in rockets.
Wait, does this mean you could set up a full network of automated satellites? Like, you send out a basic solar panel and battery rocket with the basic module, and then just have a receiver that will just extend the range?
Oooh. The broadcast transmitter sounds sweet. Intergalactic automation! You could even build a telegraph with it, sending messages between planets. The home planet could have lots of status indicators (similar to the battery meter) showing the status of all the other planets (e.g. water depth on the water planet).
IDEA!!! use the under-magma rocket to fly niobium back to the main plannet and cool it in the water purifier. It gives something for the rocket to transport plus it keeps the water purifier hot. As always, thanks the the great video it's good to have you back.
so good that you are back, i was bored out of my mind. finally some good content again. i hope you had a nice holiday. welcome back. greets from germany
Instead of liquid cargo tanks, how about building an infinite liquid storage *inside* the rocket? One spacefarer module for dupes and another for magma. Or if feeling dangerous, fit them both in one (needs a vacuum or good insulation). 😁
@@FrancisJohnYT That's the question. Normally you'd build a pump inside an infinite liquid storage, but magma is too hot for that. 🤔 Maybe door automation could be used to let out small amounts of magma at a time.
Only 200 cigarettes is the same as in Norway, though those 10 liters of whiskey is about 8,5 liters more than our (hard liquer) alcohol allowance. Had to be Ireland, ye 🤣
Idk if I have this information correct but I think they are adding a "telephone" for dupes to increase morale. You know those that have been out there for too long lol
to be honest, I totally expected the liquid ports to overhead or melt if you pump magma into it - didn't even test it. But the best part about the new liquid ports on spacefarer modules is, that you can build a infinite magma storage inside a spacefarer module. I would NOT recommend to abandon that Ship with infinite storage in space tho!!!
Nice to hear "youuuu're back" That Niobium Volcano might also be used to re-melt igneus rock from the home planet into magma, with another magma pump delivering it back to the rocket.
13:30 I recommend connecting yourself to the output of steam pump instead of opening the box and using bottle emptiers. I do that in 2 ways, either have water storage above the drop point and deconstruct it so bottled water goes inside, and just a tiny amount goes through the pipe to heat up that bottle. I personally keep tons of steam in place, hot enough that if they turn to water, it will over pressurize and explode the box, but while it's a gas, it makes temperature absurdly stable and easy to control. Such tiny ammounts of steam, the best way to deal with them is cold temp shift plate, and water pump. anything that exchange heat can stop them, so random plate and insulated tiles at bottom can stop that from spreading. to pump right side, use 3 door automation to move magma to left side, and move whole thing 1 tile higher. IMHO overbuilt, you have niobium and tungsten at this point, make thermium pump and submerge it in magma.
Damn Francis I feel this video you wanted to showcase what happens in these situations so other players can learn lol. There are other methods to pump magma but the easiest in my opinion is the same way you filter out oxygen in your rocket spacefarer module. Prime a small amount of visco gel into a Liquid Valve. This way it pops out the magma while constantly dropping visco on the liquid pump. Also 34:54 idk if you noticed but if you completely drain all the water on the water planet, Oxygen will escape through the airflow tiles.
Might be good to put an alarm on the water planet, to remind about replacing the airflow tiles with regular tiles when the water pressure is low enough.
Though about the powerless filter but if 10kg of visco gel goes by 1g will escape. So you would need two filters to be sure. I decided to bite the bullet and pay the power to ensure nothing went wrong. I'll worry about the water planet later, when the water gets low enough I want to put a diamond roof on the place.
@@FrancisJohnYTIf you properly make a mechanical filter (ie counter flow) the 1g left from a full packet will get grabbed by the next 1g packet in the filter loop. Over time this will slowly grow in size but you'd need to maintain more than even 90% saturation on the line so it's not even remotely a concern for this system.
As always Francis, a fabulous episode! Welcome back, you were missed! Sounds like it was worth it for the Whiskey alone, though I fear it'll encourage more of these "holidays" 😅
there should be a rocket module about the size of a solar panel or 2 called "Life Support" which has a small tank for food water oxygen etc. maybe less pipe madness in the cockpits then
Francis! Here is an idea. Once your magma levels on the left are low enough, go under the rocket and start another bore hole into the magma on the right side, merging the two pipelines. Double the capacity of magma, instead of running half-empty pipes to the rocket; drain in twice the speed!
Dont really need that atmo checkpoint on the magma rocket if you dont mind just manually telling the dupe to equip its suit before it leaves. Then you can put the hand sanitizer station there
very interesting as always, the magma pump trick is a little too glitchy to my taste, but i won't pretend i don't use some glitches here and there like build/deconstruct to delete heat, and the setup looks good thanks for your videos !
You don`t need to drill another hole to pump magma. Just move pump and filter 1 tile higher and remove air tile in the bottom on the right to let magma in. Of course you should do it after magma on the left is gone. There will be some magma left in the end, but most of it should be gone.
You can't draw from the right and get right to the bottom, but you can move the apparatus up a bit and let the right side come up from underneath. That would make it so you've only got three tiles deep of magma remaining.
You've got a couple free tiles in the liquid cargo rocket, if you wanted to make his life a little better, you could put a mini gas pump to eject oxygen once it hits a certain pressure with an atmo sensor
They have enough moral boosts they can handle the busted ear drums. Also we have no way of generating power on the rocket it relies on getting power when landed.
You could avoid the heat loss on the pumped magma by using radiant pipe instead of insulated once you're past your cooling loop. The radiant will very quickly equalise its temp and cant transfer any heat away while it's in a vacuum.
That's a good plan but you do have to prep it by limiting the early magma to 1kg to stop it breaking in the pipes. Their was a suggestion to limit the rockets second storage to a few hundred kg below max. Then when the rocket is full turn off the pump and increase the storage again to clear the pipes.
@@FrancisJohnYT I never encountered any pipe breakage issues when i used radiant for a steam pipe to a rocket (the insulated ones were breaking constantly). The radiants warmed up so fast they drew almost no temp from their contents. Though I have to say, I've not tried it with magma, so I might be missing some difference in fluid pipe mechanics.
It looks at a glance like at least 28-32 trips, discounting the magma to keep your base hidden, and the water you've used looks to be about a tenth. So 90million calories at the end, round up to 100 for sanity.
Hi Francis! I just made a design for pumping magma from the right side and uploaded the video on my channel. I have kept it simple to build and it doesn't delete any magma. At least it didn't in 20 cycles of testing. Take a look and see what you can optimize, though I have optimized it as much as possible after a redesign.
Silly idea: Use a spacefarer module to build a portable steam turbine/aquatuner combo, then use the liquid I/O ports to exchange cooling fluid with the spacefarer module :D Portable cooling solution :D Edit: Just tried it myself and it worked! You can even use part of the interior hull as heat exchanger, so you can have a closed loop with super coolant and exchange heat with whatever fluid you like to :D
I know it’s totally not practical or really possible but ima wee bit sad the planet core transport rocket isn’t the evil layer launch pad haha love the content best oni series I’ve seen by far
I did want to do that but the neutronium from the volcano is blocking the space where you would put the liquid input. I toyed with the idea of moving the whole silo down three tiles so the liquid loader would fit but decided against it in the end.
30:06 You can seal for gases too, you can put an insulated tile on the corner insted of airflow tile. For the left put an insulated tile between ladder and airflow tile
Niobum volcanoes spew out ridiculous amounts of niobum per second. I think it's faster than 5kg/s. It only erupts every 10 days, so just make sure you have a large enough buffer. Also it's less viscous than magma, so you cant use the normal blade technique you use with magma cause the pressure will push it up into the tile where the pump is. Just be careful, or you might end up with rock gas all over the place. I totally heard that from a friend and didnt experience anything like that myself :)
Looking at the numbers it forms tiles at about 30kg, the volcano emits 316kg per second!! and emits for 70 seconds. that is about 22 tons of liquid metal in 70 seconds, this is going to be interesting.
Hey Francis, i've been to lazy to try, but do you think it's possible to melt the rocket interior? Then expand the inside of it as far as the screen allows? Edit: I just tried it and it works! that would be an interesting project idea.
While I can't say that Francis John doesn't use any exploits, (powerless gas filter trick in hab rockets, lava pump, diagonal build, diagonal radbolt etc.) he does tend to keep it to a minimum. Rocket space being limited can make the game more fun as something to design around, so I don't think he ever would use an exploit to sidestep something like that.
I tend to try and avoid exploits, though I have definitely stretched that rule to breaking more than once. I don't break open rockets as it removes some of the challenge and it is fun to figure out how to design a rocket with limited space. If you remove the walls you remove the challenge.
Pastel de nata with Cinnamon for breakfast every morning. Might not be the most healthy thing but we were on holidays and we really enjoyed ourselves. Also we ate out a lot at the "time out" market, tourist central I know but we were total chalk white tourists.
34:02 raise the whole setup by 1 so magma meets at the bottem sure you will have 1 line of magma that the pump wont reach but that can be delt with latter
You need a digital handheld luggage scale to check your bags. I bought one several years ago for less than $10 and it is great for making sure my luggage is right at the weight limit.
@12:38 actually the emergency prio isn't the way to do that... best is to pause, tell the eng to "move to", same place (it interrupts the task - in this case building the plate), cancel the insultate tile, reissue the same command, prio 9 on the insulated tile, unpause. The engineer starts buidling the tile. The emergency prio grabs one dup - possibly the worse with 0 construction attrib - possibly at the other side of the base or inside a rocket. Also why not use steam as the gas to cool down the viscogel?
True, but I think he's working with all of his high-construction dupes since that was the goal with the rocket interior design. All of the dupes on the magma planet have good construction already.
Steam is fine as a coolant but 1kg/tile and that pipe was about what a total of 100kg? that's just 10 pipe sections of water.. I guess he could've just done that but the steam in the ambient area I don't think was enough to fill 1kg throughout the entire pipe section. Also yeah, the 10 priority is very weird... it does have to bring materials to build it so that makes it even harder. But you're right for real emergencies I use 9 lol. Actually you know what works WELL but NO ONE uses? The emergency button near the speed controls.. that ! box.. you click that and the dupes do what they do but forced. Maybe a 9 priority with that button will make it smoother.
My first instinct was to use the steam to fill the cooling loop but then I realized that long sections of the pipe were well below 100C and not insulated. So if I dumped the steam into it the steam would end up liquifying in the pipes and breaking them. If we were willing to repair the damage we most likely could have gotten it to work eventually.
@@FrancisJohnYT Well, you literally ended up pumping grams of steam anyway. Under 100g breaking isn't a problem. You could have gotten rid of the steam and pre-heated the pipe in one go, just by using a valve. Or at least that was my 1st instict. :) Anyway, glad it turned out well.
@@michaelsotomayor5001 The problem with emergency priorities is that they select the 1st available dup which is not the best idea. It's always better the you choose the dup. With move you stop the task they are doing (this way they are free as soon as you unpause), prio 9 makes sure they perform the task.
So, maybe you can set one of the magma tanks to say 26 tons. Then when they're full, you can turn off the pump and reset that tank to hold 27 again, just to keep the pipes empty while you're emptying the rocket.
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It's all in vacuum, so the magma shouldn't cool when sitting in the pipes?
Keep your dupes in their suits in the rockets, don't bother with a checkpoint, when they gasp for air they don't use any oxygen, or output any CO2, I've been using it for my drilling rockets and research, it does eat into productivity but if they're just sitting up there, you're not wasting any resources trying to delete the carbon dioxide. Other than that I have nothing to add, excellent work sir
this really makes me wonder if eventually he will be to make a system to heat the rocks all over again because he's all out of magma. don't even know if you can do that hehehe
You could melt rocks using the heat from a metal refinery but you would need lots of metal to refine. So it's possible but not really necessary we can always switch to normal filtration.
I was like a kid in a candy store, they did not have shopping baskets so someone followed me around and took the bottles I picked back to the sales counter. Was a little weird but so much fun as they had a massive selection.
My estimate for the bristle berry calorie potential of Watato is about 153.6 million calories, or 192 million if cooked into gristle berries. You probably won't want to do that though, given the estimated 96000 individual cooking jobs unless you want to print up a dedicated chef crew. At your present rate of bristleberry growth, the total time it would take to completely drain the ocean is estimated to be 367 cycles which you are already some cycles into. This is based on an assumed average water mass of 1200 KG per tile.
It seems like the exuberant crops in your base are ridiculously more efficient in terms of raw production. I don't know if there are any pips on the resource patches on the space maps, but if there aren't any then there's no option to do wild farming for extra tree feed unless you start on a forest map or one of the spaced out maps. Even if wild farming isn't an option... that's a lot of geysers in your maps overall.
We can convert the farmers to cooks after the farming is done. Given enough time they will become very very good at cooking :) Also their are several large bottles of water scattered around the bottom of the ocean. At least 50 tons so it might skew the numbers a bit.
Francis John, you keep wanting to make secret bases. Have you considered playing Evil Genius 2? It's all about creating a secret base, and conquering the world with your agents!
Any time where you don't have to worry about anything for a whole week is a great week. Took me a whole day to turn the brain back on afterwards, was so relaxing.
steam would freeze in the pipes. however, only if you run at temps that are within 10 C or so of the freeze point. if you're running at 150 C from the aquatuner chamber, that length should work just fine.
I was going to post a comment about how in the US we're only allowed 100ml on a plane, but then I found out there's no limit on amount of alcohol you can bring in on checked luggage. I'm wondering if an oak barrel can be checked...
Francis, there's a mod "Supress Notifications" that makes these notifications such as the cooking station saying is laking resources or the panels you put inside the rockets that keeps that gigantic red alert saying is not power all disappear if you go there and select it to disappear, I think it keeps the game more imersive and nice to look at, maybe you can check it out :)
I have not attempted to use it since the switch to spaced out, the game is still pretty unstable and I'm trying to keep the mods to only the essential ones, like the tea station :) But in all seriousness every time the game crashes it used to lose the settings and I would have to go around silencing everything again so I gave up doing it.
I toyed with the idea of hooking up an automation wire to the pump and the rocket so it stopped the pump and launched the rocket. But We are going to end up with extra magma in the pipes and even with insulation I'm pretty sure we are going to get breaks while we wait for the rockets to get back. Also I want to get reminded to go back and check to see how much progress we are making.
Welcome back. I'd ask if you shopped for GPUs while on holiday, but we both know the answer. Also, most of the Americans in your audience are confused by this "vacation," concept. Those who aren't take their vacation, generally, between Thanksgiving (end of November) and New Year's. Basically, work 11 months, take one off. But better than half of that is spent dealing with family holidays and prepping for the return to their normal drudgery (assuming their contract doesn't end during that period.) I know people who haven't had a vacation since the 1980s. They're not workaholics, they'll just get put on their org's shit list if they take any time off (or they work somewhere that doesn't offer vacation days at all, of which the latter seems most common.) To share along with your note about customs difficulties, yesterday I had a librarian at a research facility try to have me arrested/expelled by what was likely federal officers. Everything went well enough in the end (wasn't expelled, wasn't arrested) but I imagine you had the easier time.
Would it be a good idea to send the water in your MASIVE water tank over to Water World to top that up. And in doing so it keeps the hidden farm, well, hidden :-)
Cant really build a living area on the magma planet just yet and the rocket silo can't fit the liquid loader beside it. Will have to make a bit of room first before we can do anything else substantial.
Soo ahh, on the fish planet, how long has that conveyer shoot and rails been on "planning" without actually being build? Cause I think I saw them a few episodes ago too.
Francis, why don't you set the automation to the rocket platform and launch the rocket as soon as it's full? You don't need to always click in the "Crew" button, just set Odin to the crew and he'll go automatically to the rocket when you launch it
I gotta say I wonder why you never use the steam turbine's wastewater pipe to also inject the initial water into the steam room, because with that you could skip using bottle emptiers and avoid situations like the steam flash in this episode
Um... I usually have nothing to offer you, because you are quite a bit more experienced in this game... BUT there is an easy way to avoid your boiling water situation at 12:28 especially when you are already in a vacuum... you should close up the steam box and then pipe your water to the turbine outflow... I often use this to load the steam boxes with water if they are already a vacuum.
I dont really get why you do that double liquid bridge thingy. You can just put one bridge onto an existing line and puit the sensor on the pipe egment in the middle of the bridge. liquids will allways flow through the bridge first, so as soon as that backs up it will flow past the bridge and hit the sensor. You then get your automation signal. once the pipe is cleared again it will just flow out first thing because it will have priority over the bridge. It doesnt really save place or ressources but it looks way less messy and is easier to understand for newer people than using double bridges
Travel luggage tip: get one of those travel luggage scales - they take up very little space, weigh ~100g, have 100g accuracy and with them you can max out your weight allowance every time.
I like your thinking, next time I will do that.
Francis please!
Don't use pitcher pumps for the right side of the magma.
just raise the setup by one tile and the magma will flow from the right to the left so your pump can pupm it out.
That would work well for a lot of the magma but unfortunately the viscosity won't allow all of it to be pumped out, at least I don't think so. He would ultimately have to use pitcher pumps to transport the remaining magma. But you're right.. he should've gone that route xD good catch!
After the magma pressure has gone down, you could make a hole at the top and pump the lava from above. You would need to lower down the pump when the magma level drops, but it would also allow using multiple pumps.
The problem is magma viscosity. I mean if you look at the setup now the magma is not pushing up out of the bottom of the spike despite the pressure, it will be the same the other side. I did some playing around on a test map and could not figure out how to get it to work on the right, wait can you rotate pumps?
@@FrancisJohnYT - No pump rotating in vanilla. There's building rotation mods but I don't know if they're compatible with spaced out, a lot of mods don't work anymore.
@@FrancisJohnYT I thought of the same thing too,and i thought of using the blueprint tool to copy and flip the entire setup.
Radbolt engine will be nerf in the next update, range lowered from 24 to 20, max radbolt capacity from 4800 to 4000, also, all rocket will consume 1 hexagon when launch and landing. but petroleum and hydrogen engine will get a buff of range 6 --> 9 and 9 --> 16 respectively. This nerf to Radbolt engines, will make more difficult get radbolts on early game.
Also, they will add a broadcast transmitter, to send logic signal to another asteroid (and spacefarer), but only have 5 hexagon of range on star map. don't know if the range will be the same in asteroids.
Edit: also they will add a new necreation building, like a telephone, dupes can talk with others dupes in long distances and get a morale bonus.
hexagon is the bestagon.
Also there is gonna be a new recreational building which is a 1x2 smaller than the water cooler so it is great for great halls in rockets.
Wait, does this mean you could set up a full network of automated satellites? Like, you send out a basic solar panel and battery rocket with the basic module, and then just have a receiver that will just extend the range?
Oooh. The broadcast transmitter sounds sweet. Intergalactic automation! You could even build a telegraph with it, sending messages between planets. The home planet could have lots of status indicators (similar to the battery meter) showing the status of all the other planets (e.g. water depth on the water planet).
will they add like a command center so dupes in one asteroid can chat with another dupe in another asteroid? maybe giving research skill or recreation
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A recreation building for dupes, talking with other dupes for long distances
been liking FJ's inevitable "evil mastermind" turn of the last several episodes
Ohhhh, I really do have to build a base that is entirely inside rocket modules.
IDEA!!! use the under-magma rocket to fly niobium back to the main plannet and cool it in the water purifier. It gives something for the rocket to transport plus it keeps the water purifier hot. As always, thanks the the great video it's good to have you back.
Oh I like that idea. I just have to figure out how to automate it and it will be the end game project to be the cherry on top.
Hahaha loved the fate of Odin now in the hands of the “S.S. Farewell” rocket (Adeus in Portuguese)
Interessante, mas "Adeos" na verdade é uma referência a um satélite lançado pela NASDA em 96. It's a pretty cool coincidence though.
so good that you are back, i was bored out of my mind. finally some good content again. i hope you had a nice holiday. welcome back. greets from germany
I was the same at the beginning but filled the void with GreezyHammer's insane tutorials. There was way more to this game than I thought.
Was nice to turn off the brain for a bit, though I did miss my gaming fix just a little bit.
You could try playing ONI, if you are bored.
Nothing like a good old francis john oni episode after a long day at school
Instead of liquid cargo tanks, how about building an infinite liquid storage *inside* the rocket? One spacefarer module for dupes and another for magma. Or if feeling dangerous, fit them both in one (needs a vacuum or good insulation). 😁
Oh that is very dangerous, I suppose it would make it a lot easier to stockpile the stuff, just not sure how you would get it out again safely.
@@FrancisJohnYT A very fast dupe with good deconstruction skills
@@FrancisJohnYT since when is safety high on your list of concerns?
@@FrancisJohnYT That's the question. Normally you'd build a pump inside an infinite liquid storage, but magma is too hot for that. 🤔 Maybe door automation could be used to let out small amounts of magma at a time.
rocket interiors dont melt anymore right? so you could just let it free after you set up the pump
Of course Ireland allows suitcases full of whiskey. XD
Only 200 cigarettes is the same as in Norway, though those 10 liters of whiskey is about 8,5 liters more than our (hard liquer) alcohol allowance. Had to be Ireland, ye 🤣
Someone bringing whiskey to Ireland? What next? Russia imports vodka?
It’s enshrined in Irish law.
I do feel like the 90 Litres of wine allowance is a bit much though. I mean can you imagine the size of the suitcase required?
I always feel a little sad for the dupes that get left behnd by themselves. Does anyone visit them, write them? Do they get forgotten by the colony?
Write? to who? I'm not sure the dupes you are referring to ever existed.
Idk if I have this information correct but I think they are adding a "telephone" for dupes to increase morale. You know those that have been out there for too long lol
They get visited by Jean every 3 cicles to talk about the latest achivments of the Colony and how good they are working (:
11:55, respect for playing this out and solving the issue. That would've been one of the quickest "load last saves" of my life.
to be honest, I totally expected the liquid ports to overhead or melt if you pump magma into it - didn't even test it.
But the best part about the new liquid ports on spacefarer modules is, that you can build a infinite magma storage inside a spacefarer module.
I would NOT recommend to abandon that Ship with infinite storage in space tho!!!
Nice to hear "youuuu're back"
That Niobium Volcano might also be used to re-melt igneus rock from the home planet into magma, with another magma pump delivering it back to the rocket.
Pumping it back home sounds like it just might be silly enough for us to try.
13:30 I recommend connecting yourself to the output of steam pump instead of opening the box and using bottle emptiers.
I do that in 2 ways, either have water storage above the drop point and deconstruct it so bottled water goes inside, and just a tiny amount goes through the pipe to heat up that bottle. I personally keep tons of steam in place, hot enough that if they turn to water, it will over pressurize and explode the box, but while it's a gas, it makes temperature absurdly stable and easy to control.
Such tiny ammounts of steam, the best way to deal with them is cold temp shift plate, and water pump.
anything that exchange heat can stop them, so random plate and insulated tiles at bottom can stop that from spreading.
to pump right side, use 3 door automation to move magma to left side, and move whole thing 1 tile higher.
IMHO overbuilt, you have niobium and tungsten at this point, make thermium pump and submerge it in magma.
Damn Francis I feel this video you wanted to showcase what happens in these situations so other players can learn lol. There are other methods to pump magma but the easiest in my opinion is the same way you filter out oxygen in your rocket spacefarer module. Prime a small amount of visco gel into a Liquid Valve. This way it pops out the magma while constantly dropping visco on the liquid pump. Also 34:54 idk if you noticed but if you completely drain all the water on the water planet, Oxygen will escape through the airflow tiles.
Might be good to put an alarm on the water planet, to remind about replacing the airflow tiles with regular tiles when the water pressure is low enough.
It'll be hundreds of cycles, but he can set up an automation notification message.
Though about the powerless filter but if 10kg of visco gel goes by 1g will escape. So you would need two filters to be sure. I decided to bite the bullet and pay the power to ensure nothing went wrong. I'll worry about the water planet later, when the water gets low enough I want to put a diamond roof on the place.
@@FrancisJohnYTIf you properly make a mechanical filter (ie counter flow) the 1g left from a full packet will get grabbed by the next 1g packet in the filter loop. Over time this will slowly grow in size but you'd need to maintain more than even 90% saturation on the line so it's not even remotely a concern for this system.
man i love FJ, not having the full 10 liters is his only regret haha
I hope you had an excellent holiday! Thanks for the two "clip show" videos while you were gone, they were very entertaining.
First real holiday in a couple of years, felt really good. I'm feeling pretty lucky right about now.
Glad to hear you had a holiday for a change. Sounds like you were sorely in need!
As always Francis, a fabulous episode! Welcome back, you were missed! Sounds like it was worth it for the Whiskey alone, though I fear it'll encourage more of these "holidays" 😅
Was just nice to get away from the same old same old for a while. The cheap whisky was a massive bonus though.
when i used to work in japan, id pack my things in the small tote, then put it inside the medium tote. on the way back, small tote was full of sake.
there should be a rocket module about the size of a solar panel or 2 called "Life Support" which has a small tank for food water oxygen etc.
maybe less pipe madness in the cockpits then
Francis! Here is an idea. Once your magma levels on the left are low enough, go under the rocket and start another bore hole into the magma on the right side, merging the two pipelines. Double the capacity of magma, instead of running half-empty pipes to the rocket; drain in twice the speed!
May have to do that, just got a couple of side projects to take care of first.
Dont really need that atmo checkpoint on the magma rocket if you dont mind just manually telling the dupe to equip its suit before it leaves. Then you can put the hand sanitizer station there
I remember when I build a pump like that, that you can get the setup up 1 tile and pump from both sides, if the pressure is low it will not go up
very interesting as always, the magma pump trick is a little too glitchy to my taste, but i won't pretend i don't use some glitches here and there like build/deconstruct to delete heat, and the setup looks good
thanks for your videos !
Ooooh yeah, the joys of dealing with magma! :D
You don`t need to drill another hole to pump magma. Just move pump and filter 1 tile higher and remove air tile in the bottom on the right to let magma in. Of course you should do it after magma on the left is gone. There will be some magma left in the end, but most of it should be gone.
pumping out liquid magma to re-purpose it for other uses. my mind is blown
You can't draw from the right and get right to the bottom, but you can move the apparatus up a bit and let the right side come up from underneath. That would make it so you've only got three tiles deep of magma remaining.
You've got a couple free tiles in the liquid cargo rocket, if you wanted to make his life a little better, you could put a mini gas pump to eject oxygen once it hits a certain pressure with an atmo sensor
They have enough moral boosts they can handle the busted ear drums. Also we have no way of generating power on the rocket it relies on getting power when landed.
I'm thinking for this planet, you need a monument mod that turns it into Gandalf going "I have no memory of this place"
Consider it done :)
Just set up a rocket to send you whiskey on 18 day intervals. You will need to find the whiskey asteroid first...
You could avoid the heat loss on the pumped magma by using radiant pipe instead of insulated once you're past your cooling loop. The radiant will very quickly equalise its temp and cant transfer any heat away while it's in a vacuum.
That's a good plan but you do have to prep it by limiting the early magma to 1kg to stop it breaking in the pipes. Their was a suggestion to limit the rockets second storage to a few hundred kg below max. Then when the rocket is full turn off the pump and increase the storage again to clear the pipes.
@@FrancisJohnYT I never encountered any pipe breakage issues when i used radiant for a steam pipe to a rocket (the insulated ones were breaking constantly). The radiants warmed up so fast they drew almost no temp from their contents. Though I have to say, I've not tried it with magma, so I might be missing some difference in fluid pipe mechanics.
It looks at a glance like at least 28-32 trips, discounting the magma to keep your base hidden, and the water you've used looks to be about a tenth. So 90million calories at the end, round up to 100 for sanity.
I'm pretty sure sanity left the building a while back. The fun bit will be figuring out how much cooking it will take when the harvesting is done.
Hi Francis! I just made a design for pumping magma from the right side and uploaded the video on my channel. I have kept it simple to build and it doesn't delete any magma. At least it didn't in 20 cycles of testing. Take a look and see what you can optimize, though I have optimized it as much as possible after a redesign.
Silly idea:
Use a spacefarer module to build a portable steam turbine/aquatuner combo, then use the liquid I/O ports to exchange cooling fluid with the spacefarer module :D
Portable cooling solution :D
Edit:
Just tried it myself and it worked!
You can even use part of the interior hull as heat exchanger, so you can have a closed loop with super coolant and exchange heat with whatever fluid you like to :D
I like that idea, maybe at some point we can do a playthrough where everything is built entirely inside rockets.
I know it’s totally not practical or really possible but ima wee bit sad the planet core transport rocket isn’t the evil layer launch pad haha love the content best oni series I’ve seen by far
I did want to do that but the neutronium from the volcano is blocking the space where you would put the liquid input. I toyed with the idea of moving the whole silo down three tiles so the liquid loader would fit but decided against it in the end.
Liquid hot magma.
Welcome back!
glad you came back! and Great that you enjoyed your holiday! and I have a reason to crack open a couple of beer bottles. Yaaaaaaay
30:06 You can seal for gases too, you can put an insulated tile on the corner insted of airflow tile. For the left put an insulated tile between ladder and airflow tile
Sending a green signal to a rocket platform will queue up the pilot to get in and launch it. Easy peasy automation
Welcome back!! Hope you enjoyed your holiday and uh.... good luck!!
I did! That whiskey store was a candy shop for me.
For draining the right side of the pool, you could move your entire magma pump setup 1 or 2 tiles up and maybe door pump it underneath the gap.
That could work but would need to move the whole setup. Would be faster than using pitcher pumps but require more brain power :)
Niobum volcanoes spew out ridiculous amounts of niobum per second. I think it's faster than 5kg/s. It only erupts every 10 days, so just make sure you have a large enough buffer. Also it's less viscous than magma, so you cant use the normal blade technique you use with magma cause the pressure will push it up into the tile where the pump is.
Just be careful, or you might end up with rock gas all over the place. I totally heard that from a friend and didnt experience anything like that myself :)
Looking at the numbers it forms tiles at about 30kg, the volcano emits 316kg per second!! and emits for 70 seconds.
that is about 22 tons of liquid metal in 70 seconds, this is going to be interesting.
Any thoughts on what monument you're going to add to Toastido? You could run a community poll if you need help.
Hey Francis, i've been to lazy to try, but do you think it's possible to melt the rocket interior? Then expand the inside of it as far as the screen allows? Edit: I just tried it and it works! that would be an interesting project idea.
Melting the inside.... Thought that was fixed long ago, along with the deconstruct-thing. Hmmmmm, new project noted
While I can't say that Francis John doesn't use any exploits, (powerless gas filter trick in hab rockets, lava pump, diagonal build, diagonal radbolt etc.) he does tend to keep it to a minimum. Rocket space being limited can make the game more fun as something to design around, so I don't think he ever would use an exploit to sidestep something like that.
I tend to try and avoid exploits, though I have definitely stretched that rule to breaking more than once. I don't break open rockets as it removes some of the challenge and it is fun to figure out how to design a rocket with limited space. If you remove the walls you remove the challenge.
brothgar after found out this:
uhh klei i think i broke the game again
Glad you enjoyed your vacations in my country. Hope you liked the cuisine.
Pastel de nata with Cinnamon for breakfast every morning. Might not be the most healthy thing but we were on holidays and we really enjoyed ourselves. Also we ate out a lot at the "time out" market, tourist central I know but we were total chalk white tourists.
@@FrancisJohnYT Uff, really piling on those calories I see. Hope it was a good rest.
AAAAh, nice that you enjoyed your vacation. I was in Budapest last 3 Days and it was awesome, you gotta check it out! :-)
I'm looking at the prices of food and drink and it does look like a bargain. Though I think the girlfriend would prefer somewhere with some beaches :)
@@FrancisJohnYT you really bring sand to the beach with you? 😂😂😂 Just Kidding. I am sure, she'll like it too, because lots of shopping possible!
2 evil genius bases in and Francis already has a dupe slave he keeps in a rocket :) didn't take long for the evil to show itself
Only missing a small painting of Akhu in that ship interior 🤣
@@salemprompthous3820 ok if thats not a mod then somebody needs to make that a mod :)
The three words I look forward to hearing during the week "And, we're back."
34:02 raise the whole setup by 1 so magma meets at the bottem sure you will have 1 line of magma that the pump wont reach but that can be delt with latter
No need to fit sink in there, you can use Han sanitizer (it was narrowed to 1x3)
You need a digital handheld luggage scale to check your bags. I bought one several years ago for less than $10 and it is great for making sure my luggage is right at the weight limit.
21:34 A reminder of the carefree days when not every single tile needed to be crammed with utility.
have a whisky for me man glad you had a good vacation :D
Consider it done, I need to do a channel update to show all the shiny bottles I got.
@12:38 actually the emergency prio isn't the way to do that... best is to pause, tell the eng to "move to", same place (it interrupts the task - in this case building the plate), cancel the insultate tile, reissue the same command, prio 9 on the insulated tile, unpause. The engineer starts buidling the tile.
The emergency prio grabs one dup - possibly the worse with 0 construction attrib - possibly at the other side of the base or inside a rocket.
Also why not use steam as the gas to cool down the viscogel?
True, but I think he's working with all of his high-construction dupes since that was the goal with the rocket interior design. All of the dupes on the magma planet have good construction already.
Steam is fine as a coolant but 1kg/tile and that pipe was about what a total of 100kg? that's just 10 pipe sections of water.. I guess he could've just done that but the steam in the ambient area I don't think was enough to fill 1kg throughout the entire pipe section. Also yeah, the 10 priority is very weird... it does have to bring materials to build it so that makes it even harder. But you're right for real emergencies I use 9 lol. Actually you know what works WELL but NO ONE uses? The emergency button near the speed controls.. that ! box.. you click that and the dupes do what they do but forced. Maybe a 9 priority with that button will make it smoother.
My first instinct was to use the steam to fill the cooling loop but then I realized that long sections of the pipe were well below 100C and not insulated. So if I dumped the steam into it the steam would end up liquifying in the pipes and breaking them. If we were willing to repair the damage we most likely could have gotten it to work eventually.
@@FrancisJohnYT Well, you literally ended up pumping grams of steam anyway. Under 100g breaking isn't a problem. You could have gotten rid of the steam and pre-heated the pipe in one go, just by using a valve. Or at least that was my 1st instict. :) Anyway, glad it turned out well.
@@michaelsotomayor5001 The problem with emergency priorities is that they select the 1st available dup which is not the best idea. It's always better the you choose the dup. With move you stop the task they are doing (this way they are free as soon as you unpause), prio 9 makes sure they perform the task.
under arrest
for space crimes
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You could use the ladder bed for Odin, it would fit in the rocket.
You have no idea how fast I get on this app when I see you post a video lol
So many close calls this episode, I'm slightly disappointed you didn't have to do some drastic things to save the planetoid.
So, maybe you can set one of the magma tanks to say 26 tons. Then when they're full, you can turn off the pump and reset that tank to hold 27 again, just to keep the pipes empty while you're emptying the rocket.
It's all in vacuum, so the magma shouldn't cool when sitting in the pipes?
Oh that is a good idea I'm stealing that. The pipes may be in vacuum but the pipes themselves will soak heat from the magma.
FYI, tempshift plates don't exchange heat with other tempshift tiles immediately adjacent.
Keep your dupes in their suits in the rockets, don't bother with a checkpoint, when they gasp for air they don't use any oxygen, or output any CO2, I've been using it for my drilling rockets and research, it does eat into productivity but if they're just sitting up there, you're not wasting any resources trying to delete the carbon dioxide.
Other than that I have nothing to add, excellent work sir
you can use an oxygn mask, it is cheaper than a suit don't require skill, and works with the same bug~
@@poijnve3912 I just find the suits easier as everyone is in suits for the whole day anyway once they leave the base
the mess table in the small rocket is useless since the toilet prevents the rocket from being a mess hall
Was thinking that, just not sure what to put in it's place, actually a hand wash station would be an idea as it would stop food poisoning.
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this really makes me wonder if eventually he will be to make a system to heat the rocks all over again because he's all out of magma. don't even know if you can do that hehehe
You could melt rocks using the heat from a metal refinery but you would need lots of metal to refine. So it's possible but not really necessary we can always switch to normal filtration.
38:37 Well that's where our patreon subscription money is going
I was like a kid in a candy store, they did not have shopping baskets so someone followed me around and took the bottles I picked back to the sales counter. Was a little weird but so much fun as they had a massive selection.
My estimate for the bristle berry calorie potential of Watato is about 153.6 million calories, or 192 million if cooked into gristle berries. You probably won't want to do that though, given the estimated 96000 individual cooking jobs unless you want to print up a dedicated chef crew. At your present rate of bristleberry growth, the total time it would take to completely drain the ocean is estimated to be 367 cycles which you are already some cycles into. This is based on an assumed average water mass of 1200 KG per tile.
It seems like the exuberant crops in your base are ridiculously more efficient in terms of raw production. I don't know if there are any pips on the resource patches on the space maps, but if there aren't any then there's no option to do wild farming for extra tree feed unless you start on a forest map or one of the spaced out maps. Even if wild farming isn't an option... that's a lot of geysers in your maps overall.
We can convert the farmers to cooks after the farming is done. Given enough time they will become very very good at cooking :) Also their are several large bottles of water scattered around the bottom of the ocean. At least 50 tons so it might skew the numbers a bit.
Francis John, you keep wanting to make secret bases. Have you considered playing Evil Genius 2? It's all about creating a secret base, and conquering the world with your agents!
Maybe a quick look is in order. I saw all the hype when it came out.
@@FrancisJohnYT It's a very vapid game with shallow, annoying mechanics. I personally would recommend against playing it.
@@ChristianAkacro so true...
I think it's great that Odin has to get into an atmo suit to use the toilet.
I turned off the atmo dock after I realized that, can turn it back on again if we need to get out.
@@FrancisJohnYT It's too hilarious not to let him put on the suit every time he has to pee
I guess 75 million when the water planet is drained pre cook
if you placed the magma pump up by one tile you would only have to deal with a one tile deep pool of magma
Btw, I didn't manage to open ONI yet to star the state machine for the magma silo project. I'll still do it tho, in 2 weeks probably.
The magma pump is not actually sealed, the walls are airflow tiles
I'll stick in some insulated tiles and we should get an air tight seal in case of visco gel issues.
hope You enjoyed your vacay
Any time where you don't have to worry about anything for a whole week is a great week. Took me a whole day to turn the brain back on afterwards, was so relaxing.
steam would freeze in the pipes. however, only if you run at temps that are within 10 C or so of the freeze point. if you're running at 150 C from the aquatuner chamber, that length should work just fine.
I was going to post a comment about how in the US we're only allowed 100ml on a plane, but then I found out there's no limit on amount of alcohol you can bring in on checked luggage.
I'm wondering if an oak barrel can be checked...
I like your thinking
Francis, there's a mod "Supress Notifications" that makes these notifications such as the cooking station saying is laking resources or the panels you put inside the rockets that keeps that gigantic red alert saying is not power all disappear if you go there and select it to disappear, I think it keeps the game more imersive and nice to look at, maybe you can check it out :)
He has used it before, no spaced out support
@@CN-yb5gn Well I'm playing in Spaced Out and mine works perfectly o.o
@@anna-tt6nc huh. idk then, but yeah, he’s used it before
I have not attempted to use it since the switch to spaced out, the game is still pretty unstable and I'm trying to keep the mods to only the essential ones, like the tea station :)
But in all seriousness every time the game crashes it used to lose the settings and I would have to go around silencing everything again so I gave up doing it.
Men, do an infinite wiskey storage inside your bag its so easy. :D
It's the weight that got me I was worried I was going to go over my allowance. Came in 3 kg under that was at least two more bottles.
Draining entire oceans, stealing planet cores... At this rate these dupes will invade other savefiles and become a type 3 civillization.
Perhaps even invade a RimWorld.
Could you also have that sensor shut off your magma pump?
Or is that too much effort for too little gain?
I toyed with the idea of hooking up an automation wire to the pump and the rocket so it stopped the pump and launched the rocket. But We are going to end up with extra magma in the pipes and even with insulation I'm pretty sure we are going to get breaks while we wait for the rockets to get back. Also I want to get reminded to go back and check to see how much progress we are making.
Welcome back.
I'd ask if you shopped for GPUs while on holiday, but we both know the answer.
Also, most of the Americans in your audience are confused by this "vacation," concept. Those who aren't take their vacation, generally, between Thanksgiving (end of November) and New Year's. Basically, work 11 months, take one off. But better than half of that is spent dealing with family holidays and prepping for the return to their normal drudgery (assuming their contract doesn't end during that period.)
I know people who haven't had a vacation since the 1980s. They're not workaholics, they'll just get put on their org's shit list if they take any time off (or they work somewhere that doesn't offer vacation days at all, of which the latter seems most common.)
To share along with your note about customs difficulties, yesterday I had a librarian at a research facility try to have me arrested/expelled by what was likely federal officers. Everything went well enough in the end (wasn't expelled, wasn't arrested) but I imagine you had the easier time.
I must say I prefer the Irish approach towards work and holidays, some times you just need a break. It's supposed to be work to live not live to work.
The only thing that's missing is a FJ statue on this lair.
YESSSSSS
Would it be a good idea to send the water in your MASIVE water tank over to Water World to top that up. And in doing so it keeps the hidden farm, well, hidden :-)
I'm kinda hoping to flood the home map to about 60% water content. But I'll settle for 40% if the computer gets to slow.
Next time your on holiday, take old clothes, donate the old clothes to a local charity. Leaving more space for Whiskey!
I like your thinking, that is outside the box thinking right there :)
WHY !!
but... WHY !
i know....
BUT WHY !!!!!
FJ is back!
what about giving the dupe in magma rocket a homebase below the solar panel? isn't there enough room for one dupe?
Cant really build a living area on the magma planet just yet and the rocket silo can't fit the liquid loader beside it. Will have to make a bit of room first before we can do anything else substantial.
Soo ahh, on the fish planet, how long has that conveyer shoot and rails been on "planning" without actually being build? Cause I think I saw them a few episodes ago too.
I did not leave a work crew to finish it, going to have to send a work crew to do it at some point but things got in the way.
A foolish duplicant miner, wielding a magic drill gun thing (what is that tool called?)
35:40 Uhm...that's KILO calories, so that would be 8.9 BILLION calories.
couldnt you just move the whole magma pump setup up one tile so the right side can run underneath into it
Could God create an Aquatuner Setup so efficient it cools the aquatuner?
10L?! Good god gotta love import regulations
Don't worry you can also bring 90 Litres of wine, though to be honest I don't think I have enough suit case space for that.
@@FrancisJohnYT clearly you need a wine box the size of a suitcase!
39:19, u can move 1 block everything up
Would have been funnier to shoot hot magma at other planets
Despicable me 2 now they stole the core
Francis, why don't you set the automation to the rocket platform and launch the rocket as soon as it's full? You don't need to always click in the "Crew" button, just set Odin to the crew and he'll go automatically to the rocket when you launch it
The launch on full thing does not seem to be a thing anymore, I presume it's because you now send empty rockets to fields to harvest resources.
I see... That sucks =/
I gotta say I wonder why you never use the steam turbine's wastewater pipe to also inject the initial water into the steam room, because with that you could skip using bottle emptiers and avoid situations like the steam flash in this episode
Um... I usually have nothing to offer you, because you are quite a bit more experienced in this game... BUT there is an easy way to avoid your boiling water situation at 12:28 especially when you are already in a vacuum... you should close up the steam box and then pipe your water to the turbine outflow... I often use this to load the steam boxes with water if they are already a vacuum.
Nevermind... I just caught up to where you did just that... Um why didn't you just start that way?
I know right. I forgot about the abyssalite bug, would have been smarter to just pipe it in from the start or replace the abyssalite first.
I dont really get why you do that double liquid bridge thingy. You can just put one bridge onto an existing line and puit the sensor on the pipe egment in the middle of the bridge. liquids will allways flow through the bridge first, so as soon as that backs up it will flow past the bridge and hit the sensor. You then get your automation signal. once the pipe is cleared again it will just flow out first thing because it will have priority over the bridge. It doesnt really save place or ressources but it looks way less messy and is easier to understand for newer people than using double bridges
Every other liquid packet that goes through the bridge will go backwards and back into the bridge, that is why
If you put a bridge on a straight pipe it causes back flow last I checked, hence the double bridge design.