BMW M2 Competition vs. Porsche Macan GTS. Would you swap your sports car for an SUV?!
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* I HAVE NOT SOLD THE M2 COMPETITION* Like I've said in the beginning, it's a hypothetical question...
So what car would you replace your sports car with, if you HAD to sell it? Comment below & thanks for watching!
I have tried both the current version of the Macan GTS and the version before the facelift. Both are in my option the closest to a “fun daily driver” you can get without being a sports car. It is one of the best cars if one should have the perfect one car for almost any weather and use. You can drive to work in comfort - take the family on long holiday drives and still have fun on a back road if you want to. If you live in a country like Sweden that gets snow ❄️ during winter time, this car will not let you down.
I’m doing the exact thing you mentioned in your video. Selling my sports car for a Macan GTS. I get it next month. Best “sports car” SUV on the road. I think it looks great. Thanks for your video.
Woke up this morning thinking contemplating these as potential new daily drivers. Thanks!!
Very fun video. I swapped out my 2019 X3 M40i for a 2021 Macan Turbo.
Nice Video as always :)
You make great videos. I’m enjoying them.
You know what else, life is full of trade offs. Also a consideration is whether it is your only car or second car. If one, the Macan is awesome! But a second car can be more performance focused or extreme, because it’s not an everyday car.
I replaced my beloved M2 with a M340i. Even though I love my M340i, the M2 is just a special car that cannot be replaced.
Good video ! Nice concepts !
I drive M2 Comp and was invited by BMW to drive the entire M lineup on track. I have to say that I was blown away by X3M's power and handling. Of course M2C gave me the best experience overall, but if I needed and AAV, no doubt I'd consider X3M, this thing comes much closer to M2C as I thought!!!
Thing is, I've heard the X3M is not great as a daily because the suspension is quite harsh. Haven't tested one myself, but it's what I heard...
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I sold my 2020 Supra and got a Macan GTS, I dont miss the Supra at all and I loved that car.
The only reasons you gave is that the Macan has more grip and is higher. That might actually make for a more fun experience. Many people say so.
Very nice video. I like your videos and dont understand the people who disliked this video as soon it was posted.
I have an M2 LCI and was in the same shoes that you were. Macan GTS was really a serious candidate. But I really do want to keep my M2 so much. I didn’t want to replace it. I bought an f30 340i xdrive for daily use with family. A macan gts costs nearly the price of both in my country. I am happy with the decision. I still keep the M2 :)
Yeah, if you want to keep both cars, then the cost is quite big. Having said that, your garage is pretty 👌 Great combo of cars!
I am a m2 comp owner too, I live in Canada where snows for more than 4 month, I even drive to ski resorts before the snow trucks arrive. if a Canadian can survive winter without AWD, 80% of the population in the world who live in city don’t need AWD. If I do want a 4-door family car and trade in my m2, the G80 m3 will definitely be the one, it got more comfort and practical feature than most of practical cars and it almost as fun as an m2. But if I can keep m2, just simply have a cheap, reliable mpv or wagon for the occasions when more than 3 passengers
if BMW is really going to release m3 touring, it will be the best all-in-one car in the world, at least to me. it has all the features I ever wanted on a single car, except for hardcore off-road capability, but no other sedan has neither.
I currently own a BMW 440I GC....so not really a sports care...more like a sporty saloon. But I am seriously considering buying an Alfa Romeo Stelvio QV. I think it is very cool.
ive got both, however the macan gts feels more comfy and sporty, and because its a gts you just dont see that many compared to the m2comp.
If I had to choose between a special car like yours and a family car I would probably get an RS4. Big boot for the family and still a good car to have some fun from time to time :)
My friend whenever u get to drive the new m3/m4 record a vid comparing to m2c if possible!!
I'm trying, as we speak, to see if I can drive one. I have to find one at a dealer since BMW themselves won't work directly with me.
When you live in a place where you have to take into account the road imperfections (potholes etc) but you feel the need of a sports vehicle it all comes down to the Macan GTS with 20s (mandatory), otherwise the M2 will perish too soon and you’ll regret it, unless you plan to use it only in the best highways and track days...
I have 2 f80’s and a macan gts. Macan gts is by far a better daily driver. Awd, smoother, more quiet, more space. But it’s far worse on fuel and not as fun. But overall It’s a hard decision on which one to keep. The macan is a lot better on the interior and so easy to drive. The f80 is more fun and makes you wanna drive hard every time. F80 is also surprisingly good on gas. F80 had a better stereo system too I think.
Bought a Macan T as our family vehicle and love it!
I replaced an M235 w/ a Macan S - similar reasoning! Family loves it!
The thing about the Macan GTS is that it comes with sporty features as standard. It also carries the same engine as the turbo model but tuned down a bit. You just do an engine remap and crank them HP to hit the turbo model and there you go!
Great solution. I remapped my 2018 Macan S. 410hp, 440 lbs. torque now. And let me tell you. This thing flies! Tested times 4.3 0-60, 12.67 109mph 1/4 mile, 162+ top speed. Honestly I wouldn’t want this car to be any faster. Feels insane asis
Only problem is remap voids your warranty ☹️
@@renardnelson5456 ohh, thats totally true, i hadn’t even thought about warranty.
Maybe do it after the warranty expires lol then go crazy with it. 😂
Should compare the M2C with the all mighty e92 M3. I know M2C is quicker and all but how far off from the new era?
If I had to sell my M2C for practicality it would be for a X3M or the Macan GTS. If just for an upgrade maybe for the new M2 if ends up being an actual upgrade.
I have a M2C and a Macan S. I battle daily on what to drive. I know if I had a Macan GTS the M2C wouldn’t get much driving time.
I've never really considered the m2 a sports car. It is a sporty 2 door car. But I guess that's not really important in this comparison. The Macan GTS is a very good compact SUV. It drives as close to a regular sedan as it can while still having the increased ride height.
I sold my M2 for a Macan Turbo. Most of the time on UK roads the M2 is waiting for the few moments you can exploit it and then it comes alive. The Macan Turbo is much better to drive and more refined and still enjoyable when an open road presents itself.The Macan is more expensive and (in my view) is not a sports car but, for me, neither is the M2. It cannot hide its humble origins. Yes, it's very fast but not in the same league as a Cayman 718 GTS 4.0 for driver enjoyment.
I beg to differ. The M2 competition is definitely in the same league as the GTS4.0. It's not as precise a driving machine as the Porsche, but definitely up there with it as far as driver enjoyment is concerned.
Macan is for sure a desireable car and probably would be my top pick if I would want a (small) SUV. Would you consider the BMW M340i touring? Audi RS4 comes to my mind, if it has to be extreme.
Year, the M340i touring is probably even better than the Macan GTS. And cheaper probably
@@TunedIntoCars the M340i has a terrible harsh ride. Porsche is the king of German cars hands down in any car class. To compare any BMW to any Porsche is a joke!
@@chrisrooney205 The Macan does have a better ride than the M340i, IF it has the air suspension. But I don't know what M340i you drove that had a harsh ride. It felt quite confortable to me. Again, not Porsche air suspension confortable but pretty good
I don't want want any drama with the rear end trying to kick out on hard acceleration.
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Why a crossover and not the RS4 Avant or the Alpina B3 Touring?
Because the Macan GTS was the car I had on load when I though of this comparison.
Nice. I have recently sold my M235i for practicality reasons. A Macan might make a good replacement. Don't know about the 2.0 versions though.
Engine is not good after 60,000 miles. Oil leak after oil leak. 3.0, 3.6 and new 2.9 are way better.
Great video. One point I would differ with you on is looks. The M2 is nice to look at. But so too is the Macan. In fact more so because the Macan’s styling already seems timeless. Somewhat like the 911 does. Whereas I can see the day when the M2 styling will look dated.
Superb video. Both cars are on my short list. Once my lease is up in a year it would be a tough choice)
Edit: Ok, problem solved. M2 for me, Macan for my wife). Now, go get to work to get the money)
I had e92 m3 - great car, great sound but swapped it for a Macan S Diesel. Without passengers the M3 is faster but with passengers they both go round corners the same - limited by Passenger complaints. For me the Macan is better than the M3 - I drive it daily and even though the diesel is quiet, it’s preparing me for the move to MacanE.
I was considering a Macan GTS (first series, not this one) but then I read about the MANY (95%) owners having issues with the distribution cover leaks (aluminum bolts which broke and cause the leaks - this happens to the 3.0 engines so the S and GTS): if not under warranty, it's a 6 to 8k bill! and also, the transfer case issue and leaks too.....I was almost ready to buy one but then I changed my mind due to these known issues (and few other bits and pieces related to poor assembly and electronic). I'm a porsche guy and I love porsches but this is quite scary....
I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, but how have you determined that 95%? I highly doubt that's the case. Usually when it's a widespread issues Porsche is very good at fixing these issues. See the 718 gt4 and 991.1 gt3 engines.
This situation sounds very similar to the crank hub issue of the S55 BMW engine. A lot of people say most of the engines have that problem but in fact the percentage of people that experience the issue is quite low.
@@TunedIntoCars I know but unfortunately this is confirmed by dealers (only those who wants to disclose of course) and Porsche mechanics or specialist...I’m always very careful in verifying “words” about common issues but these seems to be very much real unfortunately. And you are right about Porsche fixing this issue: the restyling Macan doesn’t have that issue (and other were partially fixed) but I like more the first gen (design wise) and it’s also much cheaper now.
M2C manual for the weekend, GTS for commuting
Yes, I would. Definitely 😬. Sorry to disappoint with the comment.
Both engines, the S55 in M2 and the Audi engine in Macan/SQ5, are obsolete and prone to have mechanical problems. The best option in the Macan-sized market segment is one of the B58-engined cars: 340i GT, 440i GC, M340i, M340i wagon, or the upcoming M440i GC (which is sized in between the GT and GC of the previous generation, and tossing in more horsepower). All these options deliver far more low-end torque useable in normal street traffic and are far more reliable than the VW 3.0L and 2.9L turbo engines in any of the Macan variants. All the B48-engined options listed above can do 0-60 in 4.7seconds or better; the M340i (and likely the new M440GC) can do 3.8 seconds.
Great, this would be my choice if I decide to swap my M2C.
I was in a similar situation. I owned a modified 2013 135is and traded for a Macan Turbo. The Macan drives so well, the PDK is incredible, and is just as fast as the BMW. I disagree with you in the handling.
So you think a Macan handles better than an M2 Competition? Hmm. Give us some more details, I'm quite curios how you reached this conclusion
@@TunedIntoCars It really depends on what suspension you get with the Macan Turbo. You really need the air suspension with PASM. The Macan isn’t as far behind as one might think. Obviously, the M2 ups the performance from the 135is but I think it’s easy for me to say the Macan Turbo performs better than the 135is and just below the M2. However, you are also getting a lot in return by having a largish hot hatch instead of a compromised coupe. I cannot fit in the back of an M2 and I am not tall.
Porsche doesn't stand behind the quality of their vehicles. The transfer case on my 2015 Macan S has failed twice now in only 27,000 miles. This is a known issue which caused Porsche to extend their warranty to 7 ys. Their "improved" transfer case lasted only 2 years 2 months and 9,000 miles. I am out of warranty by 6 weeks and Porsche turns their back on problem and sticks me for $3,200 repair. Don't buy a Porsche w/o extended warranty for entire length of time you expect to own it. #1 rated warranty company - Endurance - won't even sell coverage on Macan. That should tell Porsche and all potential buyers something. Customer experience is far from an expected premium car brand experience.
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Hey Paul
Have you driven x3m? (forget about x6m) I think its a bit more relevant than Macan GTS And slightly cheaper too.
Not sure it's more relevant than the GTS. I think it's quite the opposite. From what I heard, I haven't driven the X3M, the suspension is too firm. So based on that fact alone, it's not much of a family car.
@@TunedIntoCars Hmm. Not sure I'd agree with you on this one. The X3M suspension is stiff but isn't really that much stiffer than the one of the m2c. Plus its does have the M heritage and goodies. Unlike Porsche, which has totally Porsche personality. If you have a chance to loan the X3M for the review, I'd love to see that on your channel. Thanks
There is no replacement for a sports car. I would keep it an buy a winter beater or a family hauler. In 10 years Cayman GTS will be forgotten while the M2 will still be desirable. P.S. imi place la nebunie canal il tau; continua tot asa.
I meant to say Macan not Cayman. Cayman GTS will be a classic.
Macan GTS to replace sports car 4 sure. Or Cayenne GTS or Turbo.
Big price difference between Macan and Cayenne. funny because I think the Macan is a lot better and better looking.
Civic Type R as a reasonably priced practical do it all, for anyone who has to have a (good) manual transmission in their lives. Golf R if you're okay not driving manual since VW manuals are garbage.
never ever.
X3m!
No. Please don't change your mighty m2 competition for this porshe they look dated and certainly no match for the mighty m2, they just look old now, in the m2 everyone looks at you, you won't get the same feeling from this horrible suv, do the sensible thing and keep the mighty m2 competition
I really need to work on my English. Like really bad. I don't know how people understood from this video, that I'm planning to sell my car for the Macan 🙂
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