I still like sentinels, the feeling of being able to watch 3-4 angles on your own soothes my paranoia that thinks an enemy could be anywhere and that the game might turn into horrorant with enemies popping out of corners.
Rule for every role : Duelist : be the first to enter. Controller : don't be the first to enter unless duelist isn't there. Sentinel : don't be the first to enter unless duelist isn't there. Initiator : don't be the first to enter unless duelist isn't there.
As a KAY/O main I'd say KAY/Os especially withult can also be a good entry, especially since u can trade off the kay o and then just res him back afterwards
@@usurpererenyeager649 the rez is actually a bit complicated if the kayo enters and there are 4 enemies there waiting for someone else to enter... so you really need to stay close to your teammates at the same time.
@@whydoihavetousemyname5603 true you need to comm your team to follow you, the entrying kay o would probably pop flash through a smoke or similar so the entire team can follow him in with no trouble (though I'll be honest they dont a lot of the time in low elo solo queue cuz everybody just baits) so usually there will always be teamates ready to trade. Even if ressing is unsafe, fake ressing kay o is good for baiting enemies to peek to get free kills. Not to mention kay o would (ideally) get at least 1 kill or so before dying whether via an aim duel or killing the people he flashed
@@usurpererenyeager649 Your point is true, my problem is that ive been in so many situations where i pop a flashbang, even an eye from reyna, and then get shot with an op from chamber on A site in Ascent. It works, but when it doesnt it is incredibly punishing, enough to loose you your round just by pushing and you wont be able to kill anyone, I am not saying that it is a bad thing to do or its not how you do it, but I see so many other players utilize it on mid of icebox and push alone.
@@whydoihavetousemyname5603 it depends if your teammates know how to res you i just had a game a few days ago where i got killed in my my ult and jett was just standing over me without trying to res me even though there were no enemies nearby anymore
i was playing my first few rounds ever today like first pc game ever type stuff and my team was on my ass b/c i picked the bomb up (didn’t realize) and was not planting
Playing sentinel but specifically killjoy gives me a sense of security knowing that I basically have 2 extra teammates that I can trust to hold positions and tag enemies when my other teammates aren't
This is exactly what valo players need to understand. I keep telling my team that they need to play like the role they have picked. You cant play slow with a duelist or wait for someone to ask for a smoke. Being proactive is key to getting the control of the rounds. Being a duelist you should have the mindset to push into a site without the fear of dying. Sure try not to die but if your team is getting the full control of site because you pushed and got the info then that's good for you too. You got the round! and you will get +ve RR when you win the match, not when you drop 40 kills and still lose the match. Prioritize winning the round over kills.
Nahhhhh cause In lower Elo your team just doesn’t push in with you and they just won’t smoke certain places off and just sit back and watch me take site or die by my self
I am P3. This is plat ranks i am talking about. When i was a silver the issue was communication so i thought Gold would be better, then in gold this issue of low game sense and common sense used to frustrate me. In plat, it is the same which is even more frustrating 😂
I used to think the roles were cool and just played averagely. However, I was wrong, I should have used the roles for good and not because they look cool, I have learned my mistake ever since I kept losing because we don't do what he have to do.
I love playing Skye because she's so versatile : I can either check if there's people and flash them with skye's flashes, but I can heal my team and use my wolf too. She can play solo or team and that's what I like so much. She's really easy to play too.
As a controller and sentinel (Viper, Astra, Omen, KJ, Sage, and Cypher) main i really wanted to learn initiator role like sova, breach or kay/o because i know they are the most valuable role for now especially in rank games.
Intiator is def the most important role when it comes to winning games but controller is the most important role to not throw the game because its pretty much impossible to win if the controller on your team is bad. So just know that good controllers are still really valuable. Also you already play the hardest controllers and sentinels so why not play brim and chamber lol
@@sebaschan-uwu Yep controller and sentinel are still valuable but for me in my diamond road to immortal rank🙏 i felt like initiator role is too op and much need in the present meta. As for brimstone i practiced him many times but his mechanics are not my type, i felt like his smokes are way harder and i felt awkward to land or drop his smokes than astra, omen and especially viper. For chamber im not a operator andy and my sheriff are little bit off, im happy with ghost, so for me chamber pick is like a troll pick to me even thou he is the meta in sentinel class.
Use kayo literally the best thing ever. You can pop flash and get guaranteed kills. His molly can almost insta break lockdown. His knife is godly goes through walls, kills sova and raze ults and entirely suppresses Reyna. You can also check corners with his knife. His ult also means you can trade without worry and push like their is no tomorrow. He counters so many agents. Not to mention forces an ulted chamber off an corner by taking his ult away.
Controller/Initiator main speaking, also Omen main personally Breach was a good personal pick for my initiator since your abilities go through walls the positioning and timing tends to be fairly similar
QOTD: I agree initiators are the most important role. Information is one of the biggest things that can make or break round, even games, in valorant. Initiators are by far the best at acquiring information
@@ZonarohGaming he has camera for offensive info gathering but that's it. Traps can't explore the area ahead of you, his ultimate requires a pick and is an ult Initiators far more consistent and can aggressively seek out intel throughout a round
@@techelitesareadisease8816 I know that but the point is Cypher’s whole identity is information gathering and so the fact he isn’t even mentioned goes to show how badly he needs a buff
As an initiator i do more pushing and clearing than anyone else, especially with fade because she is perfect for both offence and defence, I end up carrying 85% of my games because of this
I like controllers, mainly because it tought me the most about angles, and dealing with long sightlines where i dont have the aim to headshot consistently
QotW: I would say Controllers are the most important to have on the team. I play in low elo and here it doesn’t make a difference if we have 4 of 0 duelists, same as initiators, but I would prefer having an initiator on the team, over a duelist. Sentinels fill similar role to a controller, but they are more about holding an angle than attacking one. Controllers can do both, attack sites, defend sites and fake site holds. The only negative with controllers in low elo is the high skill gap of the role, but just having a person who knows smoke spots is waay better than having a duelist who camp upon a box all game.
Playing Skye and KJ is amazing because u can get so much info from Skye’s ult,bird,tiger and its so fun to annoy the hell outta them with the flashes and KJ basically has an aimbot turret,a alarm for 6:15 a molly that hits harder than my mum’s slippers
I often use sentinel because sometimes i got teams that really have “idiotic strategy” where they try to guard only 1 point side and i was like “Must i do everything by my self!?” That’s why i’m maining chamber.
I mean the ones that don’t insta-lock do. I mostly play Reyna and Phoenix and the amount of times I’ve had initiators that don’t get intel, controllers and sentinels not throw up a smoke/wall/cage for cover or teams that don’t follow incase they me to trade is shocking. Some with just bum-rush passed before you can clear angles or flash them in and wonder why they died. And they’re the first to get mad when you die first. I’ve definitely dealt with insta-lockers and they are annoying as hell but there are also people who basically expect they duelists to be two ranks ahead of them so they can get carried and not lift a finger to help them.
Duelist : the bait/ the loner/ the self sufficient Controller : The angle blocker mostly haven / semi defender sentinel : the anti backstab / hardcore defender initiator : the angle scanner for duelist or your team / detector when defending
i started playing more with Kayo/ Skye Lately and its clear they have to different ways of being played. I like being aggressive with both of them but it always fucks me over when I dont play smart. These tips help alot
In my opinions the main role depends of the map u're playing one. Some maps definetly needs à controller cause without smokes it can be really difficult to take a site and to keep it. On some closer maps like Icebox, i think smokes aren't that important and initiators will be.
Yo, just started off playing and this really helped. I typically play Sage or Phoenix, of which I had issues with both, I basically played them backwards. I'd be more passive with Phoenix and more aggressive with Sage when I didn't need to, so thanks for the helpful tips!
I think the most valuable role is still controller though, at least in low ranks, you're literally the only one keeping your team from getting overrun by enemies every round
I start playing Valo a few days ago and I play as Kay/o, his play style is fairly simple but I have a hard time understanding when to use the flash at times which usually gets me killed
You should be using your flash to either stall enemies on an attack, or common angles where you think someone will be peeking/holding you. You should also communicated with your team when you are about to flash, usually helps with coordinated swings and your low-elo teammates dont get team flashed
As someone who almost only plays initiators, initiators are the best by far because of how adaptable they are, the ones who gather information (like Sova, Fade, even Skye and Kay/o) are amazing I love them, and most of them also do awesome on attacking side or defending side
I use kj ult to either force the opposing team to rotate, get easy kills, or force them to rush in. Her kit is really useful and it can help you get better angles
I play viper and a few games ago the whole team is about to push and we say to jett “pls entry”. Their response is “ no I might die” happens every damn game
Scout: Do not stand still and use the environment as an advantage Soldier: Learn rocket jumping Pyro: Spray fire (W + M1) Demoman: Set sticky bomb traps Heavy: Give sandwich to Medic Engineer: Set the teleporter close to battle, dispenser on chokepoints and sentries undogdeable spots Medic: Heal everyone and pop the Übercharge when you're about to die Sniper: Touch grass Spy: Scout has the smallest hitbox, giving you less chance to get hit. Use it to dodge enemy Soldiers and Demos
as someone who mainly plays sentinels and controllers, being baited by duelists is beyond annoying. if i’m a controller, i smoke for you so you can entry and gain info, but when you ”force” the controller to entry, you’ll have to play the rest of the round without smokes. similar with sentinels, if you bait your sentinels you’ll have more angles to cover yourself when you’re forced to play without the sentinel util.
that's why we need teammates that know how to play there role but sometimes in comp in low rank people insta lock duelist and it becomes a 5 duelist team with no smoke and no initiators to clear sites and take control.
3 duelists is bare max for one team like yoru for info and rotation (flashes too), reyna for making space for teammates to get on site and jett for pocket smokes
from like 400+ hours of playing kj and cypher, it feels like senitnels role on attack is only 'plant bomb'. the amount of games my reyna or sage has decided theyre gonna go lurk or watch flank (when my util already is and ive told them they dont need to) is insane
6:25 its always difficult when you have that one guy who is top fragging and wont listen to you cause hes simply better and doesnt need his team and drives the round into the ground, but atleast he got mvp
Oh I hate that! It’s always either a Reyna or Phoenix insta-locks. Like I play KJ or Sage and if I notice the other team favoring a side, I’ll be like hey let’s put 3 on A instead of B Then they would be like you’re only 6/5 you can’t be making plays. Then I die from trying To hold a site by myself and we lose
the most important role in the team is all I guess as long they are trust each other and good at coms and they don't be a toxic to each other and knows how they played their roles
I’ve become a solid sentinel/controller player because most of the time my lobbies have people auto lock initiators and duelists and I felt like we would need someone from one of the other groups. I don’t mind sitting back more or watching flanks or even going for a flank depending on the situations that happen during the rounds
I think controller then sentinels. If your first half is attacking, then its controller and duelists but if ur defending its definitely controller and sentinels
As a good fill player myself, I got to fill with raze on split my last game and I dropped 30 kills, getting accused of hacking by a delusional sage that went insane throughout the game. The greatest day of my life, back to playing omen every game
this is really the type of video that helps valorant players. Put on your thinking caps and start making more videos like this to gain respect more in the VAL community
Can you tell me what rank players you are referring to? I am in b1 and spent a lot of time in iron and this wouldn’t help there. Even if you watched every vid they have and put it into practice, it doesn’t matter if half your team has no coms and the other half are toxic duelist insta locks.
I ended up building a server of people to play with and it’s so nice! We all have comms and chat so calls outs are easy. Plus we know they aren’t trolls or toxic
duelist is the most important because you can get by without smokes but without someone entering for you against site denial its very hard to do anything and the other team will just rotate to the execute
I specifically play Cypher, just very fun to have so much information. Though I will admit I get very hung up on predictability being my worst issue, need to get a little more free-form instead of just following some setups I found online over and over. Sentinel is a great role honestly, I don't have that ability in me really to be all gung-ho blast em and run in style of play XD
When i first start, i play duelist. Then i like to play sentinel, bu got abit bored and liked to play initiator. Now i play controller mostly. I almost never play duelist
As a jett main that's what I hate everyone thinks you are a tenz. As a duelist my job is to get you a space if 5-7 sec are not enough for you to get inside the site and you are not trading me then its your fault not mine that I am bottom fragging.
Initiators and controllers def top 2 important roles. Both are good on def and attack. One controls maps (in a game about maps and positioning ffs!) and the other initiates and/or gets intel (in a game about finding and killing enemies! lol). Least important role tbh is probably dulelist cus everyone is a duelist. You wont run out of them. Shit even a sentinel thinks they are a duelist LMAO.
At what elo does the duelist start to make space and entry? It sure isn't in plat 70% of the time... I think I entry as viper more often than the insta-locking Reyna or Jett... They love to roam or play for K/D, but once we plant the spike they suddenly start to play super aggressive and get killed.
no THISS, I have to put up my wall, then plant and THEN the jett starts smoking off areas and dashing about. That's why I also love playing kj, because I can have the turret peak for me instead of walking right in while the instalock reyna is off somewhere in mid going to a different site. It's actually so annoying, and when I maybe get the chance to play reyna i dont just run off to mid i actually FLASH for my teamates to help gain entry? My best valo experiences is when a reyna flashes, a jett dashes, instead of marshal-ing mid all rounds and complain when they dont get traded
Once you start playing with a 5 stack. You don't need to be "good" friends, but build up a friendslist. Someone on your team was really chill, they talked clearly and you liked the game, + they played well? Add them and then later ask if they wanna team up later. Always try to stack as hard as you can. You are mostly going to get duelist baiters & wall-licking sentinels with no comms untill pretty high ranks, and even then it's pushing it.
The rule of the instalock Reyna is to enter last and bait your team. Always be the last one alive so you can get your kills up, and then flame your team for being bad.
Im always 2 stacking with my cousin, i play controller he plays duelist and always baits me for kills. As soon as i showed this vid he started to not bait me again, thankyou.
6:51 I had this a few rounds ago with a Kay/o on my team. Spent half the game flashing me to sites, never knifed and got mad when I start playing away from him and flanking. I definitely have to work on my mechanics but it felt like he was just playing for himself to ace and not for the team at all.
Actually for me most the time in around bronze my duelists normally top frag but just get rid of the selfless I have to peek every cornor as a omen main and sometimes entry frag
I really like play as sentinels(kj,sage,cyper) where I can defense 2 side at once plus my aiming not that good. especially on defending round where I full protect the site, I kinda hate it on other players when we on attacking round they call me noob because I'm bottom frag with only 1-3 kills and always stay alive alone without kills and die with clutch. Please wait until switch round to Defence, I'll protects the site alone and get kills with my utility.
Rule for every role : Duelists : Entry frag. Stop laying back and letting your team do the work, you're the one who needs to take the site and attack. Clear angles and take the site. Initiator : Just scan the site for info. Sentinel : Always hold the flank or hold a choke point. Controller : Play for smokes. You're called a controller, who controls the field. (Note : If you're playing dualist, always play for entry. Don't take the bomb and enter site. Also, to those who are near a dualist, try to trade. Don't bait dualists, it's a waste of manpower
I still like sentinels, the feeling of being able to watch 3-4 angles on your own soothes my paranoia that thinks an enemy could be anywhere and that the game might turn into horrorant with enemies popping out of corners.
I also hate it when my enemies shit on the site I am defending
I like sents cuz i dont have to worry about trash teammates not watching flanks
So as a sent i can do that and not get annoyed by lurkers :)
I like sentinels because of the play style you dont need to play super aggresive to win the round you just need to play smart
Agreed lol, I have the same paranoia XD
@@evagenesiz7802 That is exactly my thought behind being a Cypher main.
Rule for every role :
Duelist : be the first to enter.
Controller : don't be the first to enter unless duelist isn't there.
Sentinel : don't be the first to enter unless duelist isn't there.
Initiator : don't be the first to enter unless duelist isn't there.
As a KAY/O main I'd say KAY/Os especially withult can also be a good entry, especially since u can trade off the kay o and then just res him back afterwards
@@usurpererenyeager649 the rez is actually a bit complicated if the kayo enters and there are 4 enemies there waiting for someone else to enter... so you really need to stay close to your teammates at the same time.
@@whydoihavetousemyname5603 true you need to comm your team to follow you, the entrying kay o would probably pop flash through a smoke or similar so the entire team can follow him in with no trouble (though I'll be honest they dont a lot of the time in low elo solo queue cuz everybody just baits) so usually there will always be teamates ready to trade.
Even if ressing is unsafe, fake ressing kay o is good for baiting enemies to peek to get free kills. Not to mention kay o would (ideally) get at least 1 kill or so before dying whether via an aim duel or killing the people he flashed
@@usurpererenyeager649 Your point is true, my problem is that ive been in so many situations where i pop a flashbang, even an eye from reyna, and then get shot with an op from chamber on A site in Ascent. It works, but when it doesnt it is incredibly punishing, enough to loose you your round just by pushing and you wont be able to kill anyone, I am not saying that it is a bad thing to do or its not how you do it, but I see so many other players utilize it on mid of icebox and push alone.
@@whydoihavetousemyname5603 it depends if your teammates know how to res you i just had a game a few days ago where i got killed in my my ult and jett was just standing over me without trying to res me even though there were no enemies nearby anymore
"Don't flame your teammates"
Literally every rank game players: I'll pretend I didn't hear that
Platinum most of the time
When my team doesn't listen to me
"I CANT HOLD IT BACK ANYMORE I WANNA SCREAM AT THEM"
i was playing my first few rounds ever today like first pc game ever type stuff and my team was on my ass b/c i picked the bomb up (didn’t realize) and was not planting
@@burnersforhim thats on you tho
Playing sentinel but specifically killjoy gives me a sense of security knowing that I basically have 2 extra teammates that I can trust to hold positions and tag enemies when my other teammates aren't
I like to put a grenade with the alarm bot
Same, killjoy is best. Grenade placements are easily the most overlooked, but important part of kj.
As a kj main i just hate kayo...
lol I feel so much safer when I'm defending on a site with a killjoy
exactly why i have over 200 hours of her in comp
This is exactly what valo players need to understand. I keep telling my team that they need to play like the role they have picked. You cant play slow with a duelist or wait for someone to ask for a smoke. Being proactive is key to getting the control of the rounds. Being a duelist you should have the mindset to push into a site without the fear of dying. Sure try not to die but if your team is getting the full control of site because you pushed and got the info then that's good for you too. You got the round! and you will get +ve RR when you win the match, not when you drop 40 kills and still lose the match. Prioritize winning the round over kills.
lol so true in low elo those instalock duelists they are looking for kills not winning
Ye my jett doesnt entry he just hangs back with his round 3 op
Nahhhhh cause In lower Elo your team just doesn’t push in with you and they just won’t smoke certain places off and just sit back and watch me take site or die by my self
I am P3. This is plat ranks i am talking about. When i was a silver the issue was communication so i thought Gold would be better, then in gold this issue of low game sense and common sense used to frustrate me. In plat, it is the same which is even more frustrating 😂
I used to think the roles were cool and just played averagely. However, I was wrong, I should have used the roles for good and not because they look cool, I have learned my mistake ever since I kept losing because we don't do what he have to do.
I love playing Skye because she's so versatile : I can either check if there's people and flash them with skye's flashes, but I can heal my team and use my wolf too. She can play solo or team and that's what I like so much. She's really easy to play too.
yea skye is easily the 2nd best agent in the game rn
11:15 that’s when you trick the enemy into thinking it’s a “normal predictable setup”, they look up to shoot the turret and BAM! JUDGE TO THE FACE!
As a controller and sentinel (Viper, Astra, Omen, KJ, Sage, and Cypher) main i really wanted to learn initiator role like sova, breach or kay/o because i know they are the most valuable role for now especially in rank games.
Intiator is def the most important role when it comes to winning games but controller is the most important role to not throw the game because its pretty much impossible to win if the controller on your team is bad. So just know that good controllers are still really valuable. Also you already play the hardest controllers and sentinels so why not play brim and chamber lol
@@sebaschan-uwu Yep controller and sentinel are still valuable but for me in my diamond road to immortal rank🙏 i felt like initiator role is too op and much need in the present meta. As for brimstone i practiced him many times but his mechanics are not my type, i felt like his smokes are way harder and i felt awkward to land or drop his smokes than astra, omen and especially viper. For chamber im not a operator andy and my sheriff are little bit off, im happy with ghost, so for me chamber pick is like a troll pick to me even thou he is the meta in sentinel class.
Use kayo literally the best thing ever. You can pop flash and get guaranteed kills. His molly can almost insta break lockdown. His knife is godly goes through walls, kills sova and raze ults and entirely suppresses Reyna. You can also check corners with his knife. His ult also means you can trade without worry and push like their is no tomorrow. He counters so many agents. Not to mention forces an ulted chamber off an corner by taking his ult away.
The thing is initiators gain info for our dualists if they fail to carry the game is pretty much on your shoulders (i'm a sova main)
Controller/Initiator main speaking, also Omen main personally Breach was a good personal pick for my initiator since your abilities go through walls the positioning and timing tends to be fairly similar
QOTD: I agree initiators are the most important role. Information is one of the biggest things that can make or break round, even games, in valorant. Initiators are by far the best at acquiring information
“Initiators are by far the best at acquiring information”
Cypher; Am I a joke to you? 😂
@@ZonarohGaming he has camera for offensive info gathering but that's it. Traps can't explore the area ahead of you, his ultimate requires a pick and is an ult
Initiators far more consistent and can aggressively seek out intel throughout a round
@@techelitesareadisease8816 I know that but the point is Cypher’s whole identity is information gathering and so the fact he isn’t even mentioned goes to show how badly he needs a buff
Me: I just look at my map and see where they are :P
I think most important thing on a team is good communication and teamwork
Team plays, and teams shots. Synchronized Gaming!! What is your GT and I’ll have to add you if you are on Xbox or PS?…. Not pc
Team plays, and teams shots. Synchronized Gaming!! What is your GT and I’ll have to add you if you are on Xbox or PS?…. Not pc
As an initiator i do more pushing and clearing than anyone else, especially with fade because she is perfect for both offence and defence, I end up carrying 85% of my games because of this
I’m a fade main 😁
Fade Main too 😅
I love playing astra, it’s extra ability of taking back her star is very underrated and and can be used in a very versatile way
I like controllers, mainly because it tought me the most about angles, and dealing with long sightlines where i dont have the aim to headshot consistently
Kayo kinda has everything, he has info gathering, flashes for entry, molly to help cut angles, and a ult that allows him to comfortably entry
In short: Bro has CS:GO powers
Which is why I've always preferred kayo as a long term csgo player
i prefer phoenix more, the same reason as kay o, but he had vision blocking wall and healing ability
QotW: I would say Controllers are the most important to have on the team. I play in low elo and here it doesn’t make a difference if we have 4 of 0 duelists, same as initiators, but I would prefer having an initiator on the team, over a duelist. Sentinels fill similar role to a controller, but they are more about holding an angle than attacking one. Controllers can do both, attack sites, defend sites and fake site holds.
The only negative with controllers in low elo is the high skill gap of the role, but just having a person who knows smoke spots is waay better than having a duelist who camp upon a box all game.
Playing Skye and KJ is amazing because u can get so much info from Skye’s ult,bird,tiger and its so fun to annoy the hell outta them with the flashes and KJ basically has an aimbot turret,a alarm for 6:15 a molly that hits harder than my mum’s slippers
I often use sentinel because sometimes i got teams that really have “idiotic strategy” where they try to guard only 1 point side and i was like
“Must i do everything by my self!?”
That’s why i’m maining chamber.
Sargent and team always help us to play properly and understand our roles and mistakes... thanks
0:07 Ah yes Valaorant my favorite game
Breach has an amazing kit for alone play. He has flashes, stuns and aftershock.
flashes are very slow to switch out of after using it and as soon as your weapon is up your enemy isnt flashed anymore
@@daquavious8011 cap
Breach has an amazing kit for cordinated teamplay*
i just started playing valorant a week ago and your videos have been super helpful to the learning curve
duelists get baited? I usually see duelists that bait their team mates
I mean the ones that don’t insta-lock do. I mostly play Reyna and Phoenix and the amount of times I’ve had initiators that don’t get intel, controllers and sentinels not throw up a smoke/wall/cage for cover or teams that don’t follow incase they me to trade is shocking.
Some with just bum-rush passed before you can clear angles or flash them in and wonder why they died. And they’re the first to get mad when you die first.
I’ve definitely dealt with insta-lockers and they are annoying as hell but there are also people who basically expect they duelists to be two ranks ahead of them so they can get carried and not lift a finger to help them.
Duelist : the bait/ the loner/ the self sufficient
Controller : The angle blocker mostly haven / semi defender
sentinel : the anti backstab / hardcore defender
initiator : the angle scanner for duelist or your team / detector when defending
i started playing more with Kayo/ Skye Lately and its clear they have to different ways of being played. I like being aggressive with both of them but it always fucks me over when I dont play smart. These tips help alot
Thanks for the rules now I know how I’m supposed to be playing as my favorite duelist omen!
In my opinions the main role depends of the map u're playing one. Some maps definetly needs à controller cause without smokes it can be really difficult to take a site and to keep it.
On some closer maps like Icebox, i think smokes aren't that important and initiators will be.
Now imagine playing omen and having to entry because your team is waiting in main....
Yo, just started off playing and this really helped. I typically play Sage or Phoenix, of which I had issues with both, I basically played them backwards. I'd be more passive with Phoenix and more aggressive with Sage when I didn't need to, so thanks for the helpful tips!
I think the most valuable role is still controller though, at least in low ranks, you're literally the only one keeping your team from getting overrun by enemies every round
Love the vids sarge, keep it up man
I start playing Valo a few days ago and I play as Kay/o, his play style is fairly simple but I have a hard time understanding when to use the flash at times which usually gets me killed
You should be using your flash to either stall enemies on an attack, or common angles where you think someone will be peeking/holding you. You should also communicated with your team when you are about to flash, usually helps with coordinated swings and your low-elo teammates dont get team flashed
i recently learned to play sova as an initiator/duelist, not only am i top fragging almost every round and clutching, but i have shot up the ranks
I always get cypher on team that dies first on defense before having to use their utilities. Ego peeking on defense for no reason.
As someone who almost only plays initiators, initiators are the best by far because of how adaptable they are, the ones who gather information (like Sova, Fade, even Skye and Kay/o) are amazing I love them, and most of them also do awesome on attacking side or defending side
"Me when I speak"
My team : "shutup kid"
I use kj ult to either force the opposing team to rotate, get easy kills, or force them to rush in. Her kit is really useful and it can help you get better angles
Duelist instructions unclear: No roles except duelist
I play viper and a few games ago the whole team is about to push and we say to jett “pls entry”. Their response is “ no I might die” happens every damn game
“You have to be pretty selfless and expect to be baited”
As if those instalocks are gonna listen
Scout: Do not stand still and use the environment as an advantage
Soldier: Learn rocket jumping
Pyro: Spray fire (W + M1)
Demoman: Set sticky bomb traps
Heavy: Give sandwich to Medic
Engineer: Set the teleporter close to battle, dispenser on chokepoints and sentries undogdeable spots
Medic: Heal everyone and pop the Übercharge when you're about to die
Sniper: Touch grass
Spy: Scout has the smallest hitbox, giving you less chance to get hit. Use it to dodge enemy Soldiers and Demos
8:42 i like how they removed kj set up vid when they before they said wider
as someone who mainly plays sentinels and controllers, being baited by duelists is beyond annoying. if i’m a controller, i smoke for you so you can entry and gain info, but when you ”force” the controller to entry, you’ll have to play the rest of the round without smokes. similar with sentinels, if you bait your sentinels you’ll have more angles to cover yourself when you’re forced to play without the sentinel util.
It’s so they can top frag but whine if there are no heals or smokes.
that's why we need teammates that know how to play there role but sometimes in comp in low rank people insta lock duelist and it becomes a 5 duelist team with no smoke and no initiators to clear sites and take control.
3 duelists is bare max for one team like yoru for info and rotation (flashes too), reyna for making space for teammates to get on site and jett for pocket smokes
Sentinel/initiator main here (Cypher and KJ. Sometimes Kay/o or Sova) :) ty for this information- ill be sure to put it into practice
Sentinels are also amazing on post plant on attack not just flank
from like 400+ hours of playing kj and cypher, it feels like senitnels role on attack is only 'plant bomb'. the amount of games my reyna or sage has decided theyre gonna go lurk or watch flank (when my util already is and ive told them they dont need to) is insane
Great video, really just top tier explanations there Frost, nice.
6:25 its always difficult when you have that one guy who is top fragging and wont listen to you cause hes simply better and doesnt need his team and drives the round into the ground, but atleast he got mvp
Oh I hate that! It’s always either a Reyna or Phoenix insta-locks. Like I play KJ or Sage and if I notice the other team favoring a side, I’ll be like hey let’s put 3 on A instead of B
Then they would be like you’re only 6/5 you can’t be making plays. Then I die from trying
To hold a site by myself and we lose
0:10 i just noticed the typo in “Valaorant”
the most important role in the team is all I guess as long they are trust each other and good at coms and they don't be a toxic to each other and knows how they played their roles
There are 22 agents currently in valorant
Containing 6Duelists
1 Raze
2 Jett
3 Phoenix
4 Reyna
5 Yoru
6 Neon
5Controllers
1 Astra
2 Omen
3 Viper
4 Harbor
5 Brimstone
6 Initiators
1 Breach
2 Gekko
3 KAY/O
4 Skye
5 Sova
6 Fade
5Sentinels
1 Chamber
2 Cypher
3 Deadlock
4 Killjoy
5 Sage
I think Initiator is the most important role idk why but i feel like it when i play Kay/o and breach when our team lacks this role
I’ll be helpful and try to help my team!
And then comes the slurs
For me, I feel like playing controllers feel most natural to me. It’s protect teammates whenever util is ready, and after that go crazy.
1:34 i do this on every type because i know i suck at aim now but you know what they do sit there waiting but when we defend they push
Love how the duelist ones were "Just stop playing like you're playing"
very helpful video Sgt Frost, im sharing this around.
I’ve become a solid sentinel/controller player because most of the time my lobbies have people auto lock initiators and duelists and I felt like we would need someone from one of the other groups. I don’t mind sitting back more or watching flanks or even going for a flank depending on the situations that happen during the rounds
I set up at one point as kj and have 3 others at another point that Swipe the map to where I am and get them from the back. Wins most of the time
Ah yes, the award winning game with lethal gunplay and interesting utility, valaorant 0:08
sentinels are pretty important to keep a site but duelists are important to frag out
its a tie between Sentinel and Duelist for me.
but honestly u need a little bit of everything to have a broken team
I think controller then sentinels. If your first half is attacking, then its controller and duelists but if ur defending its definitely controller and sentinels
As a good fill player myself, I got to fill with raze on split my last game and I dropped 30 kills, getting accused of hacking by a delusional sage that went insane throughout the game. The greatest day of my life, back to playing omen every game
These jett clips were so satisfying
this is really the type of video that helps valorant players. Put on your thinking caps and start making more videos like this to gain respect more in the VAL community
Can you tell me what rank players you are referring to? I am in b1 and spent a lot of time in iron and this wouldn’t help there. Even if you watched every vid they have and put it into practice, it doesn’t matter if half your team has no coms and the other half are toxic duelist insta locks.
@@Slykie find a duo
@@rizkys101 I have one but 2 players isn’t enough to win games if your team is a bunch of iron crappers
Bruh if u can't solo ur way out of iron u belong there g just keep practicing u might wanna focus on ur aim I climbed to plat just off my aim
@@neeltrip2443 I hate you for speaking the truth
Also, if you create a good synergy of all roles in your team, your team could probably be unstoppable.
I ended up building a server of people to play with and it’s so nice! We all have comms and chat so calls outs are easy. Plus we know they aren’t trolls or toxic
duelist is the most important because you can get by without smokes but without someone entering for you against site denial its very hard to do anything and the other team will just rotate to the execute
i think initiators are really the best ,, like sova gets the location and even skye,, and i think skye is the best initiator bcos she can also heal
Me and my group we Sometimes play with a sage and skye
I specifically play Cypher, just very fun to have so much information. Though I will admit I get very hung up on predictability being my worst issue, need to get a little more free-form instead of just following some setups I found online over and over.
Sentinel is a great role honestly, I don't have that ability in me really to be all gung-ho blast em and run in style of play XD
I used to play Cypher until Deadlock came out. I like her more cause it lets me be a tiny bit more aggressive and unpredictable
I don't even play valorant hardcore, I'm just here because sgt frost's voice is super relaxing lmao
When i first start, i play duelist. Then i like to play sentinel, bu got abit bored and liked to play initiator. Now i play controller mostly. I almost never play duelist
For someone that loves myself far too much to subject myself to Riot games, I enjoy watching these videos a surprising amount.
what i learned from this video is that i shouldnt have skipped the minima phantom on my store 😭
so this confirms i like playing aggressive.. nice
GOTD: I think all roles are important and a more consistent team is more important. I do think initiators do affect the game the most.
I think The most important Role is Initiator
Whereas Sentinel is the hardest role cause u need so much experience
definitely gonna use "you're a duelist, your job IS to get baited" in the future LOL
another thing with duelist is that if you are a duelist on attack and your constantly the last one alive your probably doing something wrong
As a jett main that's what I hate everyone thinks you are a tenz. As a duelist my job is to get you a space if 5-7 sec are not enough for you to get inside the site and you are not trading me then its your fault not mine that I am bottom fragging.
Initiators and controllers def top 2 important roles. Both are good on def and attack. One controls maps (in a game about maps and positioning ffs!) and the other initiates and/or gets intel (in a game about finding and killing enemies! lol). Least important role tbh is probably dulelist cus everyone is a duelist. You wont run out of them. Shit even a sentinel thinks they are a duelist LMAO.
At what elo does the duelist start to make space and entry? It sure isn't in plat 70% of the time... I think I entry as viper more often than the insta-locking Reyna or Jett... They love to roam or play for K/D, but once we plant the spike they suddenly start to play super aggressive and get killed.
no THISS, I have to put up my wall, then plant and THEN the jett starts smoking off areas and dashing about. That's why I also love playing kj, because I can have the turret peak for me instead of walking right in while the instalock reyna is off somewhere in mid going to a different site. It's actually so annoying, and when I maybe get the chance to play reyna i dont just run off to mid i actually FLASH for my teamates to help gain entry? My best valo experiences is when a reyna flashes, a jett dashes, instead of marshal-ing mid all rounds and complain when they dont get traded
Diamond usually
Once you start playing with a 5 stack.
You don't need to be "good" friends, but build up a friendslist. Someone on your team was really chill, they talked clearly and you liked the game, + they played well? Add them and then later ask if they wanna team up later.
Always try to stack as hard as you can.
You are mostly going to get duelist baiters & wall-licking sentinels with no comms untill pretty high ranks, and even then it's pushing it.
@snake90hood agreed. I tried omen recently and he's like a duelist version of viper, but no lineups.
The rule of the instalock Reyna is to enter last and bait your team. Always be the last one alive so you can get your kills up, and then flame your team for being bad.
The part in duelist where you don't get traded sounds super familiar.
Im always 2 stacking with my cousin, i play controller he plays duelist and always baits me for kills.
As soon as i showed this vid he started to not bait me again, thankyou.
Atm I'm switching between yoru and cypher depending on the map and using both helps me get my team mates who use them to use them properly
6:51 I had this a few rounds ago with a Kay/o on my team. Spent half the game flashing me to sites, never knifed and got mad when I start playing away from him and flanking.
I definitely have to work on my mechanics but it felt like he was just playing for himself to ace and not for the team at all.
My favourite role is all of val has got to be the best role which is the really cool role and yummy role and chez controler
as a kj main when i play duelist i always check clear corners when i know where my enemies are by paranoia
JUSTICE FOR CYPHER
*this post was made by cypher main gang*
QOTD: Initiators are definitely very important. Though some duelists to create space on attack are never a problem for me.
The regularly scheduled transition was so smooth
Eversince Chamber has been released I never lost with my squad's team comp of Chamber, 2 controllers and two initiators.
brimstone's name is pretty good 1:39
Actually for me most the time in around bronze my duelists normally top frag but just get rid of the selfless I have to peek every cornor as a omen main and sometimes entry frag
thnx for the tips i will try these
I really like play as sentinels(kj,sage,cyper) where I can defense 2 side at once plus my aiming not that good. especially on defending round where I full protect the site, I kinda hate it on other players when we on attacking round they call me noob because I'm bottom frag with only 1-3 kills and always stay alive alone without kills and die with clutch. Please wait until switch round to Defence, I'll protects the site alone and get kills with my utility.
This music goes well with the vid , very intense
Very informative video! Thanks alot! 🤓
Rule for every role :
Duelists : Entry frag. Stop laying back and letting your team do the work, you're the one who needs to take the site and attack. Clear angles and take the site.
Initiator : Just scan the site for info.
Sentinel : Always hold the flank or hold a choke point.
Controller : Play for smokes. You're called a controller, who controls the field.
(Note : If you're playing dualist, always play for entry. Don't take the bomb and enter site. Also, to those who are near a dualist, try to trade. Don't bait dualists, it's a waste of manpower
lmao I can tell you were reading the script with your head down because you can tell when you were speaking towards to mic after 9:30 ish
I play skye a lot and sometimes killjoy, sometimes I’m more aware of my teammates util, and bots, than they are. Lol
Resuming: Communicating whit your team, and knowing when to use your abilityes is everything.