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NordVPN was hacked... here is what we are doing about it
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2019
- It was recently divulged that NordVPN was had a server compromised back in 2018... here is what we know, and what we are doing about it...
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Link now added to description - techcrunch.com/2019/10/21/nordvpn-confirms-it-was-hacked/
thanks for the headsup about nord. Trying to cancel my subscription as we speak
Edit: got a full refund
Judge Jay laying down the truth!
at what point are a VPN company trustable ?
@@davidfox6630 honestly it is nearly impossible to tell. One of the main things to look for is they don't keep records.
and one thing that is both a good flag and a bad flag is if they have a great it is fixed as soon as they hear about it. And disclosed as soon as the period of vulnerability has expired (ie. Cert expired/replaced).
Until you have something like that you have to take them at their word. Also being not based in the u.s. is also a major plus. In the US the government can request a wiretap and they can't tell you that you are being monitored.
Yay insufficient accountability and oversight!
So, as an expert who works in network & security, I want to make a few points here.
Even though this security key was compromised, those compromising would not have had ANY way to compromise your data. Just because a person gains the security key to your VPNs, the only VPNs you are able to connect to are those listed in the app. The remote hackers, had NO way to adding their servers to the list of authorized servers. Secondly, they had no way to spoof a connection server with DNS, as they do not have the certificates needed (nor a way to push a new server to the app) to allow this to happen.
The only way they would be able to get any information is if they were able to compromise a live server, run software on that server that actively monitors the traffic going to that server, and then decrypt the SSL traffic to see any data.
This is in no way a breech of your personal privacy, or data.
It is just a breech of a VPN key, that is randomized, and localized for every server.
Also, to clarify I am not defending NordVPN, nor am I an employee, or advocate in any way. I do not gain any monetary benefit for stating this information. I just feel the need to clarify these things from a technological perspective. Security is defense in depth, and they did not even get to the 1st layer.
The first rule of internet security: A hacker needs to get lucky once. The security provider needs to be lucky every time.
so true
If you are relying on luck you are doing it wrong. Instead companies should hire people who know what they are doing, follow best practices and have a plan in case something goes wrong after all in advance.
What's the second rule?
@@SikConVicTioN So uncivilized
Hacking isn't just dumb luck it's planning and strategy
“Protect yourself on the internet using...” oh wait
oof
@Chris , you would be surprised what VPN’s log, they are usual required by governments as to not be taken to court. And if you believe IP is the only way to identify you I hate to break it to you but that hasn’t really been a reliable source for decades, IP of the average user is not likely to be static. Your computer information, spec and usage habits are all logged and can better identify you than any IP could. No VPN can block that.
Tor guard ?
@Chris Ain't nobody got time to steal data, you can instantly find out a facebook person where he/she live with all their personal information and their relative information by using certain free site. Nobody should put their personal information and photo online, along with family member and their children, unless they don't want their information protected.
@@misakamikoto8785 That's my view too, which is why I have never and will never use Facebook.
I guess nord-vpn didn’t use nord-vpn causing nord-vpn to be hacked.
Rip nord-vpn
Daaaamn youuuu Nord-VPN, DAAAAAAMN YOUUUUUUU
Nonsense. Next you are going to tell me to use google into google.
darkcoeficient no no no
Next I’m going to tell you to use google docs by using google chrome by downloading google chrome on your chrome book
@@Jordan-sk9po ha!
@@darkcoeficient DO NOT DO THIS! I have it on the highest authority that googling google WILL BREAK THE INTERNET!
Everyone advertising these VPNs as 100% secure when this isn’t true
Nothing is 100% secure
@@user-qr9oj8bt6v abstinence is.
@@danieljortiz ehhhh, succesfull abstinence is.
If you shill should you bear responsibility for the product being unsafe?
And what should the remedy be?
Jay, that money you received from Nord over the 17 months was generated on the basis of omission. Maybe you should donate it. Its dirty money
Chong exactly
"NordVPN was hacked..."
Ironic, he could save others from death, but not himself
You were meant to protect the privacy not ruin it!
It's his?
NordVPN: I have brought peace, freedom, justice and security to my new empire.
Hackers: Your new Empire?
who would have guessed that routing your traffic trough some company is less secure than not doing so? in a public network sure but they advertise it as something to use at home.
Have I told you the story of Darth Nord?
"No System is safe"
-Command & Conquer Generals Hacker soldier
Nice!
"No-one will notice the money is missing!"
China has been generous!
"Chinese hacker"
"No systems on my ship"
-Commander Adama
It's sad that someone who is sponsored by the company is taking more responsibility, than the company its self.
Yeah sadly the company will probably continue to exist because of how hard it leeches off sponsorships with desperate, broke youtubers.
You expect scammers to take responsibility? lol.
Their entire practice is a scam, the very first scam they try on you is the "limited time offer" scam, that's not limited at all, it's just a random timer tied to the cookies they give you, if you clear those cookies that timer resets to the "oh so real value of 09:39:23 hours remaining"
@Lurker M didn't say which isn't a scam, only pointed out this one is clearly a scam.
@@AzKat69 He didn’t say that you said “which isn’t a scam” he clearly asked you “which isn’t a scam”
True asf
This is why each time I use the internet I always make sure to use 4 VPNs, change my name and burn my fingerprints off.
1,000,000 subscribers for no reason? 7 vpns and a proxy
I just ask tank to teach me Kung Fu, whilst Morpheus beats my ass in a gee.
Your connection must be slow as shit
Novice. I get a blood transfusion twice a day so that my DNA cannot be traced, and coat myself in super glue. That way no keratinocytes can be collected. I also cover my face with retroreflective line paint used on roads to confuse any face recognition software.
@@jerrywhidby. That's an interesting lifestyle you have there, makes me wanna track you more.
plot twist:
hackers were sent by tunnelbear
Lmao
Lmao that's awesome
twist plot: were sent tunnelbear hackers by.
Lmao
Syndicate
"Nord VPN gets hacked"
*GETS EXPRESS VPN AD*
Same.
Same here too haha
Ppppfffff same
I got a ip vanish ad
I got both! LOL
*i had a NordVPN ad before the video started 😳*
*nordvpn* *wants* *to* *know* *your* *location*
Nord VPN come on we're sorry
That's an ad controlled by youtube
Anytime I see the entire RUclips saying join something, I don't.
Still havent played Raid: Shadow Legends
glad to see people with a backbone in 2019
Facts
Agreed. Though he had me in the first half...thought he was gonna end up defending them.
If that was true, it would just tell how shiet Nord was Compared to Tunnel B.
@Cinnabar Volcano So what makes ExpressVPN better than PIA? Don't want to argue, just curious.
@@felenne Without getting too technical (and I've used both)... Express has much faster and more efficient servers. Also they update on a very regular basis to ensure user experience and to add servers way more than PIA did while I used them.
So: iFixIt. The Stage Is Yours...
^ this right here!
or PIA/Protonvpn.
@@jesper504 he literally said he wouldn't immediately start promoting a different VPN
Kitten you do know ifixit isn’t a vpn right? 😂
@@ihateusernames8920 yeah? That isn't who I was responding to 😂
[Express VPN slides check under table]
Cheque *
@@cb.tr1k825 check is right I'm American
@@cb.tr1k825 take your Cheque back to England. Jayztwocents is American.
No joke, that’s the ad on the video as I just watched.
And Tunnel Bear
Seven month old VPN key?
Holy crap.
The fact that a vpn gets hacked is just so hilarious to me
Its super ironic these guys are supposed to protect our info but they cant protect theirs.
Sadly, Data is BIG BUSINESS these days. Knowing this, what stops a company from getting "HACKED" and then receiving a big chunk of Chinese change in return. Just saying there's plenty of motive, and money makes people do bad things to get some..
@@sachin2842 true, scary stuff when you think about it
I’m not saying that this happening isn’t plausible (correct me if I use plausible incorrectly). It’s just that is sounds so ironic. It could become a problem and I hope they fix it, but in the meantime I’m gonna giggle about the irony
That's why I don't really trust any of these guys to be honest. When they say trust us with your VPN or your passwords or your data, I'm like, look man -- EQUIFAX has been hacked, banks have been hacked, major corporations have been hacked, I'm going to trust a coupla guys working out of a shared office? GTFO of here. It's all hackable. Assume you can be hacked, back up your shizz, keep track of your banking transactions and call them when you see weird shizz.
"I only advertise things on this channel I actually use"
"I LIKE BOATS"
yup, we noticed Jay.
@Diego Jerez NICE
The boats are awesome. The ads, funny as hell, but the boats...don't knock it til you try it.
I thought the ads were funny, and that I'd give it a try, and I did, and still am ..months later. And just on PS4...I hear it's much better on PC.
They literally spent 90% of their budget on advertizing their product, instead of spending it on the actual safety.
This is a non-issue since Finland does not actually exist.
Moomin moominnot moominapproves
yes Finland is in fact a made up area
*Smiles in Wyoming*
@@B5DIN Kiitos Perkele!
You made my home dissappear now I'm floating on water!
“Also, on an unrelated note: this video is sponsored by Nord VPN”
Dustin Drake lmaoo I’d be dead
Actually I have under video an ad about VPN vanish 😂
@@LukeKubinec I got IPVanish, too. Even so, the biggest hackers are Google and Facebook. I've spoken on the phone about things that I had not brought up or searched online, and the next thing I know, I get an ad on FB or Chrome for the same thing I was previously talking about on the phone.
@@LukeKubinec Same here
Jay: "The internet is a series of tubes!"
Yes, You also have tubes in tubes.
Yes, ex: redtube, tubemate, 8tube
@@alshaklawi RUclips
@AQUAILA he meant tunnel
@@trebzrvl well,
This escalated quickly
They kept the info “private” .., it’s in the name.
And I just subscribed for 3 years a few hours ago to NordVpn and now I hear about this...
I hear how great IPVANISH is until I just saw a video where they said ...grrr...they, IPVANISH, released private information to authorities! What the heck is the use of security when they turned on everybody that trusted them!??? Crazy.
I did for two years...yipes
@@ellonysman You think you can do the fck you want by using VPN, think again
Integrity.
Rare in this day and age.
Massive LIKE!
'tegrity farms :v
i think they need some tegrity
Integrity walked out the door when the share holders walked in.
WTF is integrity I know Tegrity
especially among techtubers RAREEEEEEEEEEE
Easy, you just use a VPN when signing in to Nord VPN
What, by loading vpn 1 on a main OS and logging into vpn 2 while running a VM? Yeah, nah.
500 IQ Bigbrain
@@R34L157 And then that whole thing goes though Tor
You need to:
login to a VM
while in a VM
from a PC payed for with cash
bought from a friend
that bought it from an out of state craig's list seller
log on to a public WIFI
use a VPN
to connect to another VPN
to use a circumventer
to another VPN
and never login to any accounts associated with you in anyway.
And now your safe.... or just not use a computer and get your information from reading a newspaper through a periscope of your bunker in the wilderness..
Modern problems require modern solutions
I can't tell if that thing in the background is a 3D printer or a PC
PC
@@sexyyoda7567 a 3D PC
I haven't watched the channel in a while but I'll always respect the integrity that you and many other tech tubers have alot of other creators don't have as much.
This is why I love Jay. Thank you for taking responsibility for something that wasnt your fault and caring about your community not just using us to put sponsorship dollars in your pocket
Joined for 3 years off your affiliate link this week, just sent a refund claim :-(
100% respect to Jay for being upfront with us :-)
signed up for the three year plan in July, not sure what to do
@@goober8663 i signed up for a 3 year plan 2 years ago, not sure what to do either lmao
You could try for a refund even after 30 days as they state the following:
Terms of Service
"NordVPN Services are transitory digital network communications services, which enhance internet security and privacy. "
Maybe try the following;
Failing to disclose the hack is not in good faith and you have been mislead.
@@andycheese9476 Yeah, because disclosing the hack before auditing the rest of their servers to ensure that none of them held similar surprises is certainly the responsible thing to do.
@@goober8663 Keep using it? It still works and it's still secure unless you're using the Nigerian widow's server that you clicked on the link for in your email.......
Respect to Jay for not cashing that juicy Nord check and actually having a spine.
"An error doesn't become a mistake until you refuse to correct it." _-Orlando Aloysius Battista_
That's kind of stupid, if someone messes up and tries to correct it, but fails, it's still a mistake lol
I got an ad for NordVPN being awarded "best VPN 2019"
I guess they didn't win that award in 2018
@@defaultgenCQ lol
Maybe PIA will steal that reward. :P
My VPN advertises itself as never blocked in China .... well guess what ?
The irony
After the Pentagon's servers were hacked, I've learned that no server is safe.
As long as ego and selfishness excists, don't expect it to truly be.
Literally anything with any sort of connection to the outside world can be breached. It's just a matter of finding how to get in
NSA's servers are safe !
S'den: Hold my usb drive lol :D
NASA: *Puts all the alien technology on their super secret server.*
Gary McKinnon: Hold my 56k modem.
Also Gary McKinnon: Your security is crap.
US Government: I'm about to end this man's whole career.
Theresa May: *Does the right thing for once in her life.*
Anything that can be read and written to is vulnerable, this is why I only use read only chips for stuff I do.
Thank you, Jay, for continuing to operate your channel with integrity, accountability, and transparency. This has been one of main reasons, among others, that I keep coming back to your channel. Keep up the great work! :)
There's also a lot of RUclipsrs who are hackers, which is why some are recommending NordVPN....and this is why I'll never use it.
This is why I like Jay. NO BS when it comes to serious issues. A straight shooter.
Unless he fucks up and blames everyone else but himself.
@@comagnum1 meaningless without citation
Kyle Jensen EXACTLY!
7:32 He says twitter, youtube and instagram have all been hacked. Except they haven't been.
Except for 0:04
Love how this is their statement on their website about
Who they are: "The NordVPN name was inspired by Nordic ideals of confidence, trust, and innovation. It reflects how we value our customer freedom of choice, how we strive to be innovative with our technology and the way we work."
Their website also still says:
"We, NordVPN, confirm that we take full control of our infrastructure. It has never been compromised or suffered a data breach. We have not disclosed any private keys or any information of our users, and we have not been forced to modify our system to allow access or data leakage to a third party of any kind."
Incredible.
I'm not sure if I'm the only one, but the claims about Nordic ideals seem funny for a company based in Panama, Central America
Whats your point?
NordVPN is actually a really shitty company. I was using their services for some time a year ago and i was disappointed. Their servers are so bad, they can´t handle spikes in the daily hours with highest traffic, the service just kept disconnecting during that time of day (usually around 6-8 PM). Also support is non-existent, just a robot sending messages and no one really cares about any user issues.
They´re on top only because they spend a LOT of money for marketing purposes.
@@Morpheus-pt3wq It always works for me when I use it (I don't have it on most of the time).
@@Hackerman-bd9hq Well, it would be fine if they followed those ideals, but the fact they borrow ideals from elsewhere, and then completely fail to follow them seems funny to me. Example, imagine a Chinese company owned mostly by their government claim "we uphold the American ideals of Freedom".
Major props for not blindly going after the money and showing that even a product which you endorsed can turn out to not be so great after all!
Give it a few months, you won't even remember this anymore.
Rightly said 😂
Lmao all those RUclips sponsorships “NordVPN is the most popular and secure VPN company.” I was almost convinced but I’m glad it never happened
Thats may the problem with the people her... They get convinced, rather then they read what its actualy about.
A proxy behaving system is only good for gettin into sites you as a "not from that country" - person can't access under normal circumstances.
To search the web anonymously, ITS NOT. A remote service like behavior to a server is not what you want.
There are so many youtubers these days, gettin sponsored by a VPN, and if those want to argue that they only want the best for you, the lie or are stupid in the first place to not know what it stands for.
The fact so many RUclipsrs where plugging nord reason I didn't go for them
Rodrigo Gonzalez Yup I do, but you can also set yourself up not to fail by being transparent and immediate with your response. On top of that making sure the data centres in your employ aren’t incompetent douche canoes.
Personally because nearly every youtuber I was watching was promoting it, even the more obscure ones, I had a sort of Geico/Progressive Insurance moment where I was like "You know, these people have a lot of money for ads, makes me wonder if they're siphoning funds from their services to keep playing these ads" so I didn't really trust it.
Guess I was right in the end.
Try ProtonVPN actually good. PogChamp
Jay once again showing us why he is one of the few channels in this space still worth watching! Your honesty and integrity do not go unnoticed. Keep up the great work!
Amen, brother.
Bank: No logs of transaction were stolen, the transaction itself, welllllll...
You can pay with bitcoins
nordvpn was compromised the moment tencent became a majority shareholder, lets be honest jay
Ｗ Ｔ Ｆ
Imagine taking responsibility for things in 2019. Much impress.
little question from chinese, is there any country need use vpn on earth?(except north Korea)
Well torguard did. So at least there's someone willing too
@@dejohn3652 Many people use them to keep their activities private.
@@dejohn3652 yes, Iran
@@ItsReaxxion and you're problem is? most of internet is owned by america after all.
NordVPN: Here's what WE'RE doing about it
NordVPN: We're out of business lol
This video is sponsored by... OordVPN... no affiliation with NordVpn
OdinVPN
@@theodorosthethotsbane6554 FordVPN? BjornVPN? It's 4chanVPN now lol.
2 things I got from this: 1. NordVPN is not secure - because they don't have control over their servers. 2. A VPN tunnel limits my connection speed. Perfectly illustrated by your tube example!
Nice to see you being honest and upfront, it's appreciated and why we trust your advice on gear, thanks Jay.
The hacker was probably like: "I'm in"
But seriously though, they were probably bored of the Sponsorships and Ads
NordVPN: PULL IT OUT!!!
that's actually a really fair argument lmfao
Huge respect for holding true to your core values. Thanks for being an honest, trustworthy gentleman.
What? There are only 2 options:
1. He was not interested to know the function of a vpn and just took the money
2. He lies, blames the NordVPN that he didnt know better...
This guy is abosutly not trust worthy for any tech related stuff. This should be a wake up call for anyone who watches those channels for the knowledge rather then the crazy childish builds.
LEARN ABOUT THE FUNCTION OF A VPN! Not what it promises you. People still can track you down if they would want to, the server WILL save data (authentication and maybe worse too). The connection to the server IS visible via the network.
Like he had any other option? This is just damage control by someone that saw $$$ signs and signed a sponsorship with them. You fucking idiots in the comments are so dense, it's painful.
@@Blakefulable Agreed. This is a very dense group of people in the comments section, in general. But what do you expect from the kind of people who watch videos like these, and that nonsense "channel superfun" garbage that Linus pumps out?
It shouldn't really be necessary to praise someone for doing the right thing, but considering the society we live in, and especially the way RUclips works, I think you deserve kudos for not taking money from people that harm your viewers.
really couldn't tell that you were pissed until you said so, good objective comments on that hacking gate, really good job there on staying "calm" and speaking about it just as it is
Are you telling me that the Internet is a series of tubes after all?
Also, massive props to Jay and his massive balls. Great on you for having Tegridy.
integrity, but good try.
Josh Beoulve
tegridy lol, good ref#
danielsjohnson
it's a reference to a South Park episode
@@kenwu7 Tegridy Farms©
@@danielsjohnson sounds like you need some tegridy.
The first paper wad was an accurate demonstration of what sometimes happens.
LMAO
When you actually realize you'd have to refresh sometimes to re request web pages... It actually makes sense.
This is why I don't use a VPN.
- - - Hears one way to do it - - -
Use a burner laptop with a removable battery and when you're done store it in a RFID storage bag. Only use burner accounts and NEVER AT ANY TIME turn it on or use the accounts at your house. Drive to places with open WiFi and only places with no security cameras. If you happen to buy something at that place, only use cash and only visit twice and the first time is to check just for cameras. (THERE SHOULD BE ABSOLUTELY NO CAMERAS ANYWHERE. . . . VERY IMPORTANT.) Make sure to LEAVE YOUR PHONE AT HOME and drive in a plain white van with no fancy features. Keep it in your garage (or out of sight) when not in use and drive to an empty parking lot first to check for bugs, then go to the WiFi location for that day. Never use the same hotspot more than three times and never for more than 1 hour. When at home use a burner laptop just for home use and only to transfer over the files from the flash drive and check for malicious code before going to your main PC. Build a large RFID cage in your basement or a spare bedroom just for this use. If theirs any malicious software you don't wan't it connecting to the internet and giving away your location (sometimes it can connect and jump to your phone instead to wait for a better time to connect and give away your info so you gotta be extra careful). If you do find anything, incinerate and destroy ALL OF YOUR burners and get a new ones with all new accounts. Live alone and never have anyone over. If you need a burner phone for text messages (Some websites need to "verify your identity") get a burner phone and pay for it in cash. Use gift-cards if necessary to refill and only buy from small family-owned style stores with no security cameras.
Deep respect for you, Jayz. Not everybody has the courage to suspend a contract because it is the right thing to do, instead following the money.
Good thing I use NorthKoreaVPN instead of NordVPN
Its like a lot safer
You should use RussiaVPN
-100k Subscribers without any pizza i use ChinaVPN, my stuff is so secure !
It's just like you don't even have internet access!
I do not see a problem what good use is for the Koreans know which kinda of porn and games U play???
I use PomHub's VPN, VPNhub.
I found it amusing that the pre-roll ad for this was for ExpressVPN.
Mine was IP vanish
Pre and post was ip vanish as well. Advertising on keywords.
Ive noticed recently how many you tubers are currently promoting Nord VPN. Glad to hear the truth and you being honest and open with your viewers and not supporting Nord.
Dude looks like a villain ,
,
.
.
.well , a lovable villain
"Normally it only takes one blow" - Jay 2019
Any man should be prepared for two, IMO.....!
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Best part:
9:45
I respect you for that.
I will never understand why people reveal their complete internet traffic/data to vpn providers. When these companies get hacked, that's the least problem. Setup your own vpn at home, that's the best thing you can do.
The fact it was so heavily pushed and advertised by RUclipsrs was a red flag for me alone, much like the Betterhelp fiasco.
From my years on RUclips, RUclipsrs will push any brand, whether it’s dangerous or harmful to their subscribers. They don’t test the products or anything
I didn't expect you to blast a sponsor like this, i am impressed by your integrity, I am definitely sure that was a well paying spot
Mayhems got dropkicked in the face pretty hard
so when im lagging is because the IT dont blow hard enough my data thought the tunel ?
TxT Peer that's what she said
They need to blow it harder and faster
"and we pay you for this" anyone ever to the it guy
+TxT Peer Bro, your English is fucked. Go back to school and pay attention this time. It seems like you experienced a brain aneurysm by the time you finished typing.
"They don't keep logs"
And how would you _know_ that to be really true?
Well the hackers kept the log.
I guess a silver lining of the hack is that since the hacker leaked the keys, we can probably assume he would've also leaked the logs if they were there. So there's probably no logs...
Logs cost money to make and store so unless there was a law requiring them to or some profit to be made somehow from those logs then it's unlikely (especially given the industry they are in) to have logs. You are however correct that we don't really know what they did and didn't do/keep so at the end of the day it's a matter of do you trust them to tell you the truth about whether or not they kept logs and that trust is very much so the topic of discussion right now.
@@theeiszeitmann928 it was probably only the nsa anyway, precious metadata!
It's easy to known or not.... All VPNs that are based on Europe and USA by law need to keep logs. The ones who doesn't keep logs are the ones based in some tropical islands like British Virgin Islands or Cayman Islands.
Thanks for the great heads-up Jay! 👍
I discontinued NordVPN immediately after your warning.
By the way, @05:38 if months March and October are included, it's a total of 8 months, not 7.
"The only possible way to abuse webtraffic was by performing a personalized and complicated MITM attack."
MITM attacks are not super complicated and definitely don't have to be personalized.
Not to mention a MiTM attack is exactly the kind of attack you would use with against a VPN user.
Script kiddies MITM
@@9Blu yup.... goodbye Nordvpn, Vikingvpn, and torguard. All 3 have been compromised.
In a broad sense you're correct, but in this specific case the truth is found between those quotes. This attack is not a broad spectrum attack, it really is a pin-point MITM attack that has such a complex setup with a terribly poor payoff that no hacker would ever go through the trouble. The biggest misunderstanding here is that the hacker did not intercept some "NordVPN Master Key" that allows them to decrypt all encrypted tunnel traffic. They didn't even steal the keys to any of NordVPNs servers. They stole an old expired TLS certificate that would allow them to make a cloned website of NordVPN[dot]com and NOT have the "This connection is unsecured" warning pop up. They would still have to somehow modify the DNS record of the individual target to repoint the NordVPN website request to their own hosted IP. Oh, and they'd also have to run a time spoof attack on the target to spoof their system time to before March 8th 2018 when the certificate expired. You might have seen my similar comments in a couple threads here, but the truth is you are buying into the forced narrative. I couldn't possibly stem the tide of thoughtless agreeance here, but I hope this will at least encourage you to not join in on the meritless bashing of a great company.
@@nicholas_black 100% right
Steel balls of integrity: something sorely needed these days.
It's Tegrity now!
@xrelik tnx for the info.
xrelik it’s a good idea to use a VPN for BitTorrent.
xrelik I don't care I just happy cause I can watch pewdiepie from China and breaking bad on netflix
@xrelik thank you for your comment
Respect! Not many good hearted people in this world especially when it comes to ads and money. You are a good man for telling the truth and being honest instead of blowing smoke up peoples asses
NordVPN’s parent company is a Russian Data Collection Firm, idk why no one ever mentions this...
"There's a datacenter in every corner"
"Normally it only takes one blow to get to the datacenter"
every corner of the globe?
Unless you have Comcast. Then it takes several blows, Call to the tech, more money from your wallet for getting that blow fixed! :P
I’m glad I used a discount code to get hacked
what discount code? Every channel has at least 1 add/discount code for Nordvpn.
You didn’t get hacked though
Nord did
@@Cashaloe Yes trying to be funny
@@Cashaloe The server Nord was renting got hacked. Isn't that like if I was renting a house from you, and I didn't tell you that someone stole my set of keys. I think?
@@Cashaloe He very much could have had his data stolen, last year, and continued to use the product because they didn't tell anyone about the hack. Also Ken The Eagle, the server they were renting got hacked, but in that everyone that used it was at risk, meaning the end users themselves were the ones whose data could have been stolen. The proper thing to do was come right out and be open and honest about what happened, but they hid it and kept making money like assholes.
Love how my cybersecurity training said to watch this video as homework. Like yay it's Jay and not some dry explanation.
Ironically, I was shown an ad for a different VPN service when this video finished.
NordVPN: "We don't keep logs".
Also NordVPN: "No user activity logs were stolen".
Yep, noticed that as well. Only fools think that these companies don't keep logs of everything. They just don't sell the information.
As opposed to them saying that they were leaked despite not having logs? What do you want them to say?
@@nickmendez3707 "we dont keep logs so they couldnt steal what we dont have"
@@nickmendez3707 you're a f'n moron.
@@codybarrett4672 So damned if you do, damned if you don't... If they didn't mention the logs(much more logical thing than your pinky swear which would make it insanely suspicious), or they could phrase it in an ambiguous way... Now, I don't care about Nord, but using semantics as pointing damning evidence is childish and accomplishes nothing.
The irony of a VPN company getting hacked is too funny
What's so ironic about it? VPN exists only to hide your identity, has nothing to do with security on their part. But ofcourse every internet service must have top security especially VPNs but still it's not ironic at all.
@@HotShame0 If you know what irony is, yes, it's ironic.
Irony is preparing specifically for something and having the opposite occur.
i think people use a VPN to hide their data and in the end, all of their data was exposed.
Maybe you're thinking of _Socratic_ irony.
The mail is the most secure way from A to B , the postman never read my ads or my bills !
Why does this video have over 1k dislikes? He's just looking out for his viewers and explaining the situation?
Because the world is full of assholes and some of them watched this video.
Never VPN'd in my life, it's ok if ppl see the porn I watch, it's high class, and 4k.
@@ascissordollynamedgwen9409 with fluorescent cocks?
@@ascissordollynamedgwen9409 a friend of mine is wondering about that futa porn. 😂 Any links xd
@@CarlosFlores-pl3lb My cock is florescent. This is definitely not the result of radioactive mutation. Probably.
Plus don't worry, VPNs are a bunch of hype and lies anyway, coming from an actual network engineer. They barely protect you.
Use antivirus, ad/tracker blocker extensions, try to use Firefox not Chrome, and use DuckDuckGo. Oh, and delete your Facebook. And boom. You're already 50x safer than if you were using a VPN, all for free.
It's more than knowing what you watch especially if you use public WiFi. They can access all the info on the device you are using, passwords, home addressees, email addressees etc. And I don't do social media either like Facebook and Twitter. Also one way or another everything can be hacked.
lol
Jay - "I'm not supporting another VPN until I see what NordVPN does to fix this."
RUclips - "Hold my beer, I'm placing IPVanish as the ad of this video at the end."
Good to see companies getting called out I not being transparent.
It’s too often that companies believe that the end user doesn’t have a right to know that the services they used may be compromised
Glad I never did a sponsor for them, they reached out to me a few months ago.
Jesus was/is German/European like you, Daniel, and the mortal enemies of your people were condemned by Him in Revelation 2:9, and in John 8:44. I pray that you read this reply someday, in Jesus' name. Amen.
you dodged a bullet right there, not because of this incident, but because they are a employing various scams to get people to purchase their subscriptions.
Even their "limited time offers" are scams, which are easily debunked if you just clear the cookies you received from them and refresh the website.
If you do that, ez pz "unlimited" limited time offers.
@@AzKat69 cracked Nord ACC's lmfaoo it's ez to get them
@@primedeep1424 try looking up what a scam is.
@@primedeep1424 Sadly I can't win an argument against a stupid person, hence why I didn't reply.
You should learn to understand what you write as well so as to not embarrass yourself the next time.
If you want another comment from me, let me know once you find your mistake.
Protip: try looking at what you posted vs what I said, your target is waaaaaaaaay off.
Mad respect for dropping an income source based on values. I was very close to subscribing to Nord last week but thankfully decided to wait for my next paycheck.
Dodged a bullet
you dont need a VPN to access internet. Your local ISP is enough.
Lionel Lim The reason people get VPNs is because your ISP spies on you
@@lionellim1101 I think we all know how the internet works. The added security is super nice, especially since I'm on a college campus 50% of the time (with a university network that tracks and logs every bit of data), a vpn is just a nicety that those of us with the funds take advantage of.
Clyde Cash It’s not only to protect yourself from your ISP watching what you do. It’s also an added layer of protection against people who might try to steal your personal information online. Not to mention the benefits of being able to get around region blocks on things like Netflix.
I always say “it’s better to be pissed off then pissed on” unless that’s ur thing.then more power to ya.
Than* Grammar is important. With that saying especially.
@@SparJar lmao
Jared Bartlett haha so good!
Well, I can say from absolutely no personal experience whatsoever that if I'm ever pissed on then I'm sure as HELL gotta be pissed off.
@@rogehmarbi no.
I'm glad you're not a sellout and actually stand for what you have faith in, not just what you get money for. I agree, getting hacked is something every company is at risk of, but the response IS key.
Me who has never had a VPN: "suckers"
The masses of corperations and people skimming my data: "sucker"
NordVPN: “Protect yourself on the internet using NordVPN” Hackers: "I'm about to end this mans whole career."
hey what an original meme I've never seen somewhere else before
Scamvpn let’s sponsor every single possible person instead of being a good service
Its a good service. Fuckups happen, especially if you outsource stuff.
should it happen? no. should they verify stuff and notify customers much earlier? YES, SURE
is it reason to overreact and shittalk them right away? duude....
ill stick to nord for now, cause there's no reasonable alternative for my needs right now
Everyone remain calm and...
Panic!!!
I was considering it for a hot minute being based in Switzerland and all but something just felt really off about them being marketed everywhere, as well as their marketing.
@@zawiasfx When a company charges a subscription they should be paying attention to any breaches. They should be checking regularly for security breaches. Not taking money and leaving things to go along merrily.
expressVPN is better, i can use it on my appletv. cant do that with nordvpn
This reminds me of the Yahoo! mail hack. It was only after 500 million people like myself lost excess to their accounts that Yahoo admitted they had been compromised. The tech industry needs to man up and fly straight or they'll all suffer. I checked out Nord VPN and was on the verge of signing up, but now I'm not so sure.
Any company that doesn't inform you, as a customer, of this immediately isn't worth your custom.
"Jay explains how a VPN works with watercooling"
"Normally it only takes one blow..." Jayztwocents 2019
Thats what she said!
She never said that.
Jay, stop blowing the server!!!! :)))))))))
Stop quoting youtubers and putting it in the comments. There are so many comments like this and they're getting annoying.
@@fortnitefunnyguyman6077 are you the fun police now?
"But the NSA said they only needed a few months access, and swore they wouldn't make a backdoor! "
I was actually looking into to getting a VPN provider and googled NordVPN. Saw some great reviews of their VPN but then found your video. They lost a customer and you got a new subscriber =) Cheers
fake security frauds must be punished for the lack of honesty.
First Bank of Nord gets broken into: "Well, the thieves stole all the money, cleaned out the safety deposit boxes, and rerouted everyone's direct deposits, but they didn't get your account numbers..."
Perfect analogy.
Jay can you shoot your videos in a wider format? Or at least frame yourself a bit further away so when we upscale the video in mobile, your head won't be cut. :)