Three Technical Fouls, Head Coach Ejected in 30 Seconds (Murray State vs. Morehead State WBB)
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- Опубликовано: 15 фев 2020
- During their match-up on February 15, 2020, Murray State's Lex Mayes hits a three pointer in the first half and proceeds to point to her teammate, Macey Turley, who gave her the assist. Mayes is then given a technical foul for pointing. Head Coach Rechelle Turner is upset and questions what the technical was for, and proceeds to pick up one of her own for entering the court. She then picks up a second after she is restrained by assistants while she is speaking with a separate official about the technicals, and is ejected from the game due to two technical fouls called on her.
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A technical for pointing? At her teammate? Good grief.
In a football game that I watched, a guy caught a pass for a td, and pointed to the sky, thanking God but also acknowledging his dead brother.......he got a personal foul on that.......refs are arrogant little monsters who want to control the game as if they're important, and it happens in all sports.
That's taking the concept of not being polite to point to a bizarre conclusion.
That one ref was obviously on a power trip. Disgusting.
I have been officiating for over 45 years. This idiot has such a power trip and such an ego that for him to change the call would be like losing his manhood. Which he should lose anyway
The first technical & third seemed definitely outrageous
That might have been the most over obsessive officiating I've seen since Crawford ejected Duncan for laughing. It was insane to eject the head coach. Period.
She said the magic word, she wins stupid prizes...
@@weatherchaser1166 - Wrong. The first technical foul was earned. The 2nd was an overzealous ref. On the 2nd technical foul call the closest ref to the HC didn’t blow the whistle. It was said douche bag who called the first who just happened to be more than 40 feet from the HC. Come on now 🙄
The technical for walking onto the court to confront the official was BS. Yes, it was a legitimate T, but was given at the discretion of the official. Many, many times, coaches walk onto the court during play stoppages to speak with the officials w/out being given a T. The coach had every right to know the reason for the T. Another sterling example of an official making a BS call (T for pointing at teammate to say “good pass”-not taunting or excessive celebration).
@@joecool2125 - ✊👍🙏
The two T's on the head coach were the only ones that were actually proper in this situation. You can't come onto the floor to argue.
As someone who refereed for 28 years, the 'pointing' rule was put in to prevent taunting of AN OPPONENT. If as the description says, Mayes pointed to or at her team mate, Turley, it was how players on offense thank their team mates for the assist. Hence, the 'pointing' technical was totally inappropriate. All three of these so-called officials not only need to be trained AND TESTED upon their rule knowledge, but also make a public apology to BOTH schools involved in this game.
yes misapplication of the rule, and not understanding the "intent". i hope Ohio Valley Conference deals harshly with this crew, since the partners did not rectify the situation
K9AF: Excellent post to point this out. Yes, indeed it's very common to thank your teammates for setting you up to score. . This was very, very unfortunate along with those refs being totally inept! They all should be sent back to ref school and banned for the rest of the season.
I wish I was that coach. I would have taken my team to the locker room and we would hit the road. And if the NCAA didn't like it we would settle it in federal court.
The only way the NCAA will ever address this bullshit is if someone gets crazy and it makes it all worse. And I would tell the NCAA if that Stevie Wonder dick head is ever assigned to another one of our games, we wouldn't even take the court. We would leave the locker room and hit the road.
Facts!
Not sure why you would just assume the description reflects reality. Especially when the person posting the video is affiliated with the Murray State team and has a vested interest in presenting a narrative favorable to Murray State.
That ref was reliving his glory days being a jerk . Cant admit he made a mistake . Stupid officals can ruin a game with one bad call .
Having officiated over 2000 games at all levels other than pro, being a head coach for five years, and an athletic director for a decade, far more technicals need to be thrown.
What was said and how it was said are both relevant. The problem is that parents and parent-coaches have continued to whine and complain their way more and more that more ended up being tolerated and the boundaries just kept being extended to what is deserving of a T.
There’s a ridiculous amount of swearing on the court now because it’s become common language and compounding that with helicopter parents living vicariously through their kid’s sports has led to less people willing to coach and especially officiate.
Any of you nay sayers, go officiate for a straight year every weekend and see first how easy it is and fun it is to have “know-it-all’s” in the crowd yell constantly at you including calls that don’t exist like “over-the-back.”
@@brettslaathaug4704 Thank you sir. Everyone here is thinking with their emotions. Us refs have rules to enforce. It doesn't matter if you or me like it or not - the rules are the rules.
@@brettslaathaug4704 well said. I'm an official in another sport, and if people don't start showing some self control, there aren't going to be enough officials to cover all the contests.
@@brettslaathaug4704 Completely disagree, having been an ump and a ref for over 20 years myself. The first technical was just plain wrong, the ref blew it, period. Pointing at a teammate to thank them for an assist is very common - use your head, what would the player be doing pointing at an opponent on the other side of the court as taunting? When they got together, you can clearly see them acknowledging they blew it. So, all you do is go over to the coach, and say, "hey, yeah, I blew it, it wasn't taunting, my bad". Would have diffused the whole situation and been over with. Instead, he gives a quick unnecessary technical to the coach and escalates the situation.
Too many referees fail to acknowledge mistakes, and it just escalates the situation.
@@brettslaathaug4704 Amen!
She’s so humble for walking herself out tho, I give her props for that
Yup, good training for when they tell you to get on the rail car…. For your safety.
@@Platoface yikes. A little leap ya made there......
Yeah. Class move. She has 2 teams watching to see how to properly react. Also it makes the officials look even worse doing the calm walkout. It takes away all there reasoning later when they claim "she was bonkers bezerk and out of control.....WE HAD to remove her."
@@thomasmartin7425 rofl. Hard to pretend she’s being classy after she ran out and berated multiple officials.
Why would you lose your job for doing something dumb?.. Had she complied with the sideline rules she wouldn't have gotten T'ed up. Know the rules.. fight within the rules- that includes staying off the court when you have a disagreement. The Lady isn't "humble" .. she can't seem to control herself and stay out of hot water.
The home team has a right to boo at the ref, total injustice!
Okay Skippy, everyone knows you're in charge. You da man!
You say that like now. Let's see what happens when you're put in a position of authority, and people start charging after you. I'm sure many will start saying the same thing when you try to maintain control.
@@scott1564 let me guess, you're a bad ref also. Congratulations.
@@easterlake actually, I was a pretty good one. What you are is someone who has no idea what you're talking about, has never done anything like it, and doesn't know what it takes. You prove it by ignoring my comment and posting a third grade (if that) intelligence level "insult" on me. You really don't get it do you? You proved my point with your absurd statement. Have a nice day.
@@scott1564 ......insulting someone by commenting...”ignoring my comment and posting a third grade, (if that) intelligence level “insult” on me”, really proves their point more than it proves yours. Perhaps you may want to reconsider....”you really don’t get it, do you?”
@@scott1564 A essential attribute to being in a position of authority is observing, listening, and communicating. If the fact pattern presented in the description is correct. This Ref made a poor judgement call on the first T on the player. Okay, it is human to make a error, either way it is understandable that the coach will have some questions at the very least the coach must defend her player. A ref should have enough situational awareness to understand this. You then listen and explain, if the coach continues and is disruptive. Then sure hit them with a second T, but that did not appear to be the case at all here. I coached HS baseball for 5 years, umped another 5, and walked a tier putting felons to bed for 12., all three required communication, there was none of that here. The ref or umpires job is to facilitate the game, not be judge, jury, and executioner, this ref was laying the law down, not his job.
That ref shouldn’t be officiating at any level. Not even 6u.
The bests refs are those that at the end of the game you don’t remember who they are.
You're living in the past. There's to many idiot coaches for that to happen anymore.
@@mikebarat1950 : Not sure how that negates my comment, for me and those who are not idiot coaches, but....Okayyy.
You're right, the best refs are the one you don't remember at end of the game. It's not matter of negating your point, It's a matter of pointing out how childish coaches in general have become in this day in age.
that's hard to do now, especially in end of game situations. Had a game this season where I made a call on an illegal screen that negate a game winning basket. according to the coach, I cost his team the game. Never mind that his team missed at least a dozen FT, never mind that they missed a number of 3 pointers, or had a number of turnovers. this one call that I made cost him the game.
@@bradwilliams6691 Some of the coaches and especially the parents are out of their minds.
"The red zone is for the loading and unloading of passengers...there is no loading in the white zone..."
I thought all 3 of the fans were going to storm the court
HAHA 😂
And 2 of them were there because they thought it was men’s basketball
There were more ball girls there than fans.
@@mandyhenderson7883 I would think that you as a woman would have more respect for women's college basketball Mandy. Sure... it is not nearly as popular as men's but these young ladies work hard and play their hearts out on the court. That should count for something.
Not funny at all Marshall. You obviously have no respect whatsoever for women in any sport.
How the hell is pointing at a teammate a technical?
A ref that should not be doing the job. He nor his mind are in the game.
Having officiated over 2000 games at all levels other than pro, being a head coach for five years, and an athletic director for a decade, far more technicals need to be thrown.
What was said and how it was said are both relevant. The problem is that parents and parent-coaches have continued to whine and complain their way more and more that more ended up being tolerated and the boundaries just kept being extended to what is deserving of a T.
There’s a ridiculous amount of swearing on the court now because it’s become common language and compounding that with helicopter parents living vicariously through their kid’s sports has led to less people willing to coach and especially officiate.
Any of you nay sayers, go officiate for a straight year every weekend and see first how easy it is and fun it is to have “know-it-all’s” in the crowd yell constantly at you including calls that don’t exist like “over-the-back.”
Not an atypical happening in the OVC!!!!!!! Officials are sometimes questionable. Officiating is a tough job but this situation was ridiculous
I remember that game like it was yesterday that was some pathetic officiating literally an official who let his power over take his duties to call a fair game and explain the situation pitiful
It concerns me greatly, that you remember that game.
That was a really good camera quality
0:34 hey Ref when you want us to play the game instead of screwing us over.
0:43 Not very cool power trip.
I be like this fan on Sundays
the officials need to learn the fans came to watch the players, and their job is to insure a fair game, nothing else.
with how the stands are empty you'd think this is during covid.... its not
STILL can't see the reason for the first technical. You would think you would see some reaction by the other team. The other HC seemed a little confused and it looked like the woman official wanted to forget the last 5 minutes of her life and start all over again. Was there some prior bad feelings between Murray and that one official?
The alleged reason is discussed the description!
The late great Hall of Fame Basketball Coach John Chaney once said to me, "those who can not coach, officiate."
Coach Chaney had so many great "One Liners" Philly's Finest
@@stever1791 I was lucky to work at Temple during his last 5 seasons, the best time with him was during the summer, countless stories. Also watching the women’s games with him when Dawn was first starting out.
@@chris.fitzgerald Ill bet those were wonderful times. John is fondly remembered by many
All 3 should be terminated from officiating. The shame if incompetence should make them quit. Idiots.
you cant fire a black female official! come on man
What did the other two officials do wrong?
Opposing coach thought it was casual Friday
So who officiated this official?
Shining example of why I loathe basketball; the officials get on a “power trip” and think the game is all about them.
Not all of us Officials are like that!
The ref should've been ejected on that. In 50 yrs of playing ball, I've never seen anything so ridiculous.
crazy how such little power makes people feel big
Its just a ref having a bad day. These guys/gals don't get paid much, and honestly make mistakes. It's not a power trip, it's being tired. Think of it like a parent that gets home from a 10-12 hour day at work (exhausted) then get's attacked by his/her children for money/complaining in general. The parent just shuts down after so much stress/banter. They're only defense is to ground the child/throw technicals.
Bed call
He is disconnected from the game . . .made a mistake and could't/wouldn't correct it!
The last 2 technicals are understandable, but the second kinda iffy, but why the first one?
The last two are not understandable. When you are an asshole blind POS making armature calls that decide the game and no one will correct it, you need to be told. He is lucky I was not the the coach. I would have whispered in his ear
"After the game, go straight home and protect you family. Someone is coming by to see you Nazi boy"
Then when he told anyone what I said I would deny it and sue him for defamation. Then get a restraining order and he would not be calling any more of my games. The NCAA failing to correct this type of behavior is going to result in instant replay just like football. All sports are sick of shit refs. Except football. There we expect it because well, the fix is in.
@@partybusexperiance3289 This kind of bullshit is why we don't have good refs
Taking a power trip is an understatement. I hope that referee is out of the game.
Ref on his own little power trip.
Why was the first t called? Did she point at someone on the other team so you get taunting?
The OVC said "the matter has been addressed internally.” Well that just makes everything smells like roses.
translation: "he fucked up, but we wont admit this".
What was the first technical for?
It was on the player that hit the three. As she turned to start running back on defense she pointed to the point guard who gave her the assist to acknowledge the good pass. The referee gave her a technical for taunting because I guess he though she was pointing at the defender she hit the shot over.
Good job on the coach. After the second T I would have gone full Bobby Knight.
BOBBY KINGHT !!!
Which way? Slamming a phone at the scorers’ table? Throwing a chair across the floor? Trying to dump a red into a garbage can?
@@2themoon863 D: All of the above
Terrible and inappropriate call by the refs!
The refs should be suspended!
Again I always said refers should be accountable to there calls. In any sport. That was just dumb.
Having officiated over 2000 games at all levels other than pro, being a head coach for five years, and an athletic director for a decade, far more technicals need to be thrown.
What was said and how it was said are both relevant. The problem is that parents and parent-coaches have continued to whine and complain their way more and more that more ended up being tolerated and the boundaries just kept being extended to what is deserving of a T.
There’s a ridiculous amount of swearing on the court now because it’s become common language and compounding that with helicopter parents living vicariously through their kid’s sports has led to less people willing to coach and especially officiate.
Any of you nay sayers, go officiate for a straight year every weekend and see first how easy it is and fun it is to have “know-it-all’s” in the crowd yell constantly at you including calls that don’t exist like “over-the-back.”
This was crazy
This officiating was absolutely terrible.
Drunk with power. Officials are not supervised at level enough, and literally can do whatever they want without consequences
That is awful, non-situational awareness by the officials.
This is atrocious...now you can't acknowledge teammates who pass you the ball or ask other officials a question!
He must be auditioning to be the next Joey Crawford.
Underrated comment.
This video is meaningless without seeing how #4 reacted after the successful shot. The poster she pointed to her teammate. We cannot see it here.
Pointing at a teammate"?" Coach Wooden and Coach Smith would have had something to say about that.
Please note the technique used by the ref to indicate the technical foul. He has practiced this technique, index finger of the right hand only and the quick slap down with the left hand. He definitely has been waiting to use his practiced "T"! It is obviously his show case call. I can't imagine what his charging call looks like. The technical on the coach, you can see the smoothness of the call. He has practiced this a lot in front of a mirror and now he got his chance to use it, not out of necessity but for "style"!
Im guessing that Refs. day job is a Police Officer! 😂😂🤦🏻♂️
I officiated football and basketball when you get tired in the middle of the season you can get like this as an official. He is probably burned out and tired.
but bruh ..... like what did she even do wrong?!?!?!?
Incase no one has ever heard about how bad OVC officiating is, here ya go
This situation is all on the officials, one in particular. He inserted himself into the game by seeing unsportsmanlike conduct that wasn't there. Then his failure to communicate effectively led to the two technicals and the ejection of the coach. The second technical against the coach was particularly egregious because it was made from a distance.
How little you know.....go try being a ref
Ref was justified. If the OTHER coaches were physically RESTRAINING the head coach, that's a bad look. She doesn't belong on the court. She was wrong. Period.
@@Spec62 Yes, I'm sure that palm on the forearm was the only thing keeping her from going on a killing spree. She was just standing there, menacingly!
@@nobogiedr I am a ref and I agree with the OP; the first T was never explained to the head coach by the calling official...he just reports and walks away. Whether the HC was going to agree or not, the calling official could have very easily walked over to the HC and explained why he called the T on #4. Then, he only exacerbates the situation by calling the first T on the HC. The second T on the HC was chicken shit and should have been called by the official standing right there not from one of the other two standing at the other foul line. This is a good example of bad game management and a crew that did not do a very good job of communicating and trying to mitigate the situation. The HC was only looking for any kind of explanation since no one seemed to understand why the T on #4 was called; it is something that she never got. If you want a better angle, take a look at this clip: ruclips.net/video/5w6UxyvXlQw/видео.html There is no way #4 deserved the T; this is something that happens in every game more than once.
There ...that's three stupid refs for his three stupid technicals
Having officiated over 2000 games at all levels other than pro, being a head coach for five years, and an athletic director for a decade, far more technicals need to be thrown.
What was said and how it was said are both relevant. The problem is that parents and parent-coaches have continued to whine and complain their way more and more that more ended up being tolerated and the boundaries just kept being extended to what is deserving of a T.
There’s a ridiculous amount of swearing on the court now because it’s become common language and compounding that with helicopter parents living vicariously through their kid’s sports has led to less people willing to coach and especially officiate.
Any of you nay sayers, go officiate for a straight year every weekend and see first how easy it is and fun it is to have “know-it-all’s” in the crowd yell constantly at you including calls that don’t exist like “over-the-back.”
I can understand why the coach was on the floor after the technical but did the refs even explain about the call? Did they even warn her about being on the court?
I have a coworker who even refs at amateur wrestling matches and he tells me he would warn the coaches about being on the wrestling mat during a match and gave them warnings. Even warnings about getting a Yellow Card. And yes he would explain to the coaches about the calls or non calls.
Some refs are on power trips and just want to hand out technical fouls. One time Ted Valentine had a fan ejected because he said something to him.
The official who called the first technical he no business on a basketball court! Other officials should have destroyed his credibility by correcting idiotic call. From a former official for over 20 years. If you don’t enjoy officiating you need to get out of it! That referee from his expression doesn’t enjoy it!!!!
that ref is on a power trip..
Auto tech for charging on to the court. Head coach needs to be smarter than that
Butthurt ref is out of control and should quit or be fired.
Didn’t see a infraction?
that ref needs to be banned.
Another case of to much interference from game officials!
Probably a family member or close relative was on the losing team..how else can you call such a stupid call..
The Three Stooges in Stripes!!
Wonder what would have happened if old school Bobby Knight was the coach that day hmmmmm 😳😳🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I we would have seen chairs flying and injured refs. 😂😂😂
Walking on the court with stiletto heels should get her permanently banned.....
This is a hot take.
Exactly.....automatic ejection
Hahahahaha wow. What piss poor refs.
The female ref doesn't agree with the tecnicals.
Did the boy ref get his feewings hurt? Welcome to your future kids.
Some of those male officials get on a power trip and start throwing their weight around left and right. I was at a USD game in South Dakota years ago when one of the Coyote players was just walking down the court. As he did so one of the officials backed into him and called a technical on him for something he didn't do. Fortunately the other two officials called the official on it and ordered him to the back court. They had to let the technical stand but the crowd got extremely loud over it and let that guy know what they thought of his officiating.
high heels on a basketball lmao
not all refs like not all cops are bad, but the ones like this ref should be held accountable. a fine and suspension would be acceptable.
I think he made a mistake and then when the coach approach him. He issue a quick technical for what? Immature,
Having officiated over 2000 games at all levels other than pro, being a head coach for five years, and an athletic director for a decade, far more technicals need to be thrown.
What was said and how it was said are both relevant. The problem is that parents and parent-coaches have continued to whine and complain their way more and more that more ended up being tolerated and the boundaries just kept being extended to what is deserving of a T.
There’s a ridiculous amount of swearing on the court now because it’s become common language and compounding that with helicopter parents living vicariously through their kid’s sports has led to less people willing to coach and especially officiate.
Any of you nay sayers, go officiate for a straight year every weekend and see first how easy it is and fun it is to have “know-it-all’s” in the crowd yell constantly at you including calls that don’t exist like “over-the-back.”
@@brettslaathaug4704 I respect your opinion and some what agree. For I too was a coach and athletic director in secondary education 24 years as the head football coach also coach girls basketball. The most vicious animal of all AAU basketball so. I totally understand what you you're saying. But my perspective is this. It look like the coach came to him and was questioning what was the situation about. And he just gave her a quick technical foul. Respect goes both ways!
Addressing profanity I've been on the sideline on Friday nights and yes there is profanity but also I've heard officials use profanity as well.
1st T on the coach was for coming out of her coaching box. by rule, that is automatic.
This was messed up from the very start. Was the referee reprimanded for his BS calls in any way?
The matter was handled internally, per the OVC. No details about what that means.
bad officiating I would be filing a complaint with the NCAA
Maybe the reff's need to relearn the rules of the game
And I'm sure you know more than they do. What would that be based on, exactly?
We just had a referee from the Murray area pull this same kind of bullshit in our 3rd region basketball tournament. It must be in the water down there.
That is some of the worst refereeing, I have ever seen….
Those refs need to be fired for real
Having officiated over 2000 games at all levels other than pro, being a head coach for five years, and an athletic director for a decade, far more technicals need to be thrown.
What was said and how it was said are both relevant. The problem is that parents and parent-coaches have continued to whine and complain their way more and more that more ended up being tolerated and the boundaries just kept being extended to what is deserving of a T.
There’s a ridiculous amount of swearing on the court now because it’s become common language and compounding that with helicopter parents living vicariously through their kid’s sports has led to less people willing to coach and especially officiate.
Any of you nay sayers, go officiate for a straight year every weekend and see first how easy it is and fun it is to have “know-it-all’s” in the crowd yell constantly at you including calls that don’t exist like “over-the-back.”
it is a fricking game
We had a ref in school who called our team for the dumbest stuff cuz he had hatred for our coach & it happened every time he officiated our games
Thank you k9af for explaining because the video did not
Check the description, it's explained
Thank you Cameron
Terrible officiating, there should have been no Ts on the coach let alone an ejection.
I've seen male coaches shove refs and not get a T, just look at what coach Kryzzywitzski at Duke gets away with.
Different refs different standards. And the argument shouldn’t be. They get away with murder so let’s legalize murder. It should be let’s crack down on murder.
Refs should be fined for bad or inappropriate calls if proved to be valid.
These Refs are terrible I see no foul there absolutely ridiculous the coach shouldn’t have a technical
If you ask a ref the rules of the game sometimes they make them up as they go tecs are most the time emotional tecs tempers flar but control is the key make it fair judgement calls and keep your head in the game and work with the coaches with your call sometime refs won’t communicate and causes conflict there was no reason for the coach to be ejected or even a tec she was in her place these refs did not won’t to communicate
coach came out of her box and onto the court. by rule, that is automatic.
No one would ever dare to eject Geno at UConn for this, guess she's not viewed as very important
See that guy's got no business being a referee
So it’s a technical foul to make a basket?
STAN SB19
Women's basketball officials at the 1-AA level are atrocious.
Wrong wrong wrong!
"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a men's character, give him power." Abraham Lincoln
Ref ball. It's everywhere.
Good calls "RABBIT EARS"!
Must have been an empty gym...could hear the fans as clear as day
It's women's basketball... So, yeah, empty gym.
@@theburninator3202 let me tell you, for a men's game at Murray, its SRO just about every game. MSU has a fine history of BB. womens sports have lagged behind for a long time, even with Title IX
Really bad by that ref lost his composure
1:07 bad asf 😍😍
Pete Buttegeig should not be officiating basketball
What the hell was the reason for the tech on the player