Trump 2.0: What a Second Trump Presidency Would Bring
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2024
- In a special series leading up to Election Day, “The Daily” will explore what a second Trump presidency would look like, and what it could mean for American democracy.
In the first part, we will look at Tump’s plan for a second term. On the campaign trail, Trump has outlined a vision that is far more radical, vindictive and unchecked than his first one.
Jonathan Swan and Maggie Haberman, political correspondents for The Times, and Charlie Savage, who covers national security, have found that behind Trump’s rhetoric is a highly coordinated plan, to make his vision a reality.
Guest:
• Jonathan Swan (www.nytimes.com/by/jonathan-swan) , who covers politics and Donald Trump’s presidential campaign for The New York Times.
• Maggie Haberman (www.nytimes.com/by/maggie-hab...) , a senior political correspondent for The New York Times.
• Charlie Savage (www.nytimes.com/by/charlie-sa...) , who covers national security and legal policy for The New York Times.
Background reading:
• Why a second Trump presidency may be more radical than his first (www.nytimes.com/2023/12/04/us...) .
• No major American presidential candidate has talked like Trump now does at his rallies (www.nytimes.com/2024/04/27/ma...) - not Richard Nixon, not George Wallace, not even Donald Trump himself.
For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily (nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-t...) . Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.
My question is this: are those advocates of a “more empowered presidency” equally enthusiastic about it when the executive branch is under the control of a party other than their own … ??
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Yeah-that’s what I thought 😏
I think Dick Cheney is perfectly happy with Obama’s drone war and Biden’s wars in Ukraine and Palestine. It’s the thought that Trump might negotiate with Putin that worries him.
Bill Barr has been a Presidential Powers guy since Nixon. Like your point. More Dems than Repubs. Period.
Some highlights to show you just how dangerous Trump will be:
7:27 Charlie: "Trump is someone who is interested in his own personal power, in removing any interior barriers, guardrails, or constraints on that power."
8:58 Maggie: "He's going to look for people who are much more ideologically aligned with him...who won't stymie him on foreign policy, who won't go out and oppose him on his views on NATO."
9:29 Jonathan: "His big regret from his first term is personnel."
11:31 Charlie: "They want lawyers who will say yes. They have been systematically vetting lawyers for a potential second term already."
33:30 Charlie: "The Republican conservative movement has been trying to expand executive power ever since Nixon collapsed in the Watergate in Vietnam era...these ideas like the unitary executive theory start to arise, trying to get back to where Nixon was before he fell, to achieve conservative policy outcomes even if liberals controlled Congress or, in that era, the courts."
37:37 Maggie: "When Trump was elected, a Democratic strategist said to me that the nation was about to find out how much of our system is norms and not laws."
38:17 Maggie: "[Trump] has been given a bunch of rationales by lawyers or policy advisers who are close to him about how far he can take things, and if he is elected he has promised that he will do that."
40:10 Jonathan: "Trump, when he left office, made it his mission to drive out of the party disloyal people, so the composition has changed substantially. You're not going to see as much pushback, not that there was a huge amount in his first term, but you're going to see even less."
40:46 Michael: "The only way you get serious checking and balancing from a legislative branch is if Democrats controlled one or both chambers, which is not a certainty."
Please share. Third party has this feed, but awareness is key before Conventions.
Choosing loyalty to DJT over job qualifications would result in a an inept government full of criminals.
everybody who wants to know, already knows this. those who don’t want to know, you’ll never convince… so proof and reminders are a waste of time.
Constitutional Republic
here's how I describe losing democracy and rule of constitution to people. Its like hiring somebody to work on your car or house with no estimate of cost or contract, no estimate of how long its going to take, or what condition its really going to be in when you get it back . and it gets worse. when the original guy(trump) is gone, somebody else will take over and get the same deal and you will have no say in it. democracy and constitution are like a work contract between the governed and the government.
Yup-it’s the “social contract”, a concept elaborated by all of the Enlightenment thinkers who influenced our founders 👍.
@@vinista256 I've talked to a lot of maga's and its necessary tell them what it could cost them personally if things go wrong with a dictator. Having a house or car repair cost more than anticipated is a way to remind them. theoretical talk will just make their eyes glaze over.
@@kennj321 LOL-indeed! But I knew you were the type who could appreciate the theory 😉.
Imprisoning your political opponent is 'democracy'.
Circle, need Congress to make and enforce rules (laws). Did Trump have anyone in clan other than McCarthy and Nunes? Not many, he doesn't understand policy issues nor care.
This is terrifying 😢
Why no video?
You can hear the one guy getting more and more exasperated by Barbarro constantly asking whether the end of democratic norms would be bad
SCOTUS has now completed its transformation to being an irrelevant branch of government. The appointments should not be made by Presidents. It would be great if there were some independent body like the ABA who recommend and do vetting. Senate confirmation hearings are a joke. I don't know how to change the justice appointment process but the current process no longer works.
if presidents were picked by popular vote, I think the president would be fine appointing candidates.
the problem is the electoral college keeps giving the middle finger to the people’s actual choices.
Because the Republican Party is broken, but more than relevant. Like going out with a bang. People know one controlling party eliminates the Constitution and it's individual freedoms and rights. Project 2025, Heritage is playbook for a Cleptocracy. Powers to Executive Branch only🚫❌
The Eastman's and Cleta's of the world (false Elector Coup plot) are now Lara Trump's mothers for Liberty.
Own the Libs include ALL but the inner circle, like Saudi Arabia or Xi (in Trump's👑 simple mind🤪). Great job today NYT, let's spread the word📢
You're saying exactly what Czar Vladimir wants to hear. I can't wait for the "gubmint" to actually collapse and we get the movie "Civil War". The Trumplings will welcome Russian and Chinese troops. Well, maybe not Chinese. They're not white.
I'm trying to connect to the dots between the recent SCOTUS hearing which seemed the conservative majority was interested in using the sigh of relief of not grant Trump immunity for private actions to create out of nothing presidential immunity for official acts, with the fact that Trump is pissed off that his Federalist Society lawyers wouldn't let him do illegal official acts in his first term, and he's now looking for lawyers who will green light illegal official acts in a second term. That combination is the eye opener.
A lot of people will be hurt.
Particularly the weapons industry.
@@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590 oh trumpers are against weapons industry now? XD not buying it. trump would never cut the massively over inflated us defence budget and if he did you would hate him for it.
Lots of criminal illegals and fake asylum seekers will definitely be hurt.
@@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590 so buy puts. Prove it.
I find it hard to believe any president would not want a cabinet that "helps him get to yes". How is this out of the ordinary? We've been trending toward "the imperial presidency" for 4 or 5 decades due to legislative gridlock, none of this is new.
so because things havent been going well for the last few decades we tear up the constitution now? its as its always been, conservatives pretending they love this country when in fact on its actual founding principles they despise it. they would much rather russia or north korea
ok, so if an american president decides he should stay beyond his term… you think he should have a cabinet that “helps him get to yes”?
… and did you really just justify an imperialist regime on american soil? because that is the single most un-american sentiment since the colonists kicked out king george.
Maggie Haberman is the news nerd’s Taylor Swift.
Thanks to all of you telling the truth.
The kid needs to take a break and get therapy for his shame based childhood.
He may have seen too much making rounds with his slum lord father. Who knows? He needs to be exiled.
8:05 he wants more power for its own sake. This has been obvious from the start.
9:05 Remove all impediments. No opposition. Yes men for generals who won’t protect the world from Trump
Then the lawyer layer. No more conversation, just yes. They’re already interviewing.
So when Trump wanted to end wars, and various Military Generals lied to him and purposely put a stop to his ability to end them, was that good?
Would you accept this kind of behavior if Generals had done so to Obama or Biden?
Do you mean that we need more Generals who will lie to and mislead the elected president of the United States, the way they did to Trump the last time?
Sounds rad
Your trolling is subpar comrade
So Trump takes over, and we all sit back and let him do it? 😮
Yeah, kinda reminds us all of Hitler in the late 30s and 40s in Germany.
It's Weimar 2.0
yes and no. if trump is elected, he gets his term. if he tries to stay there past his term, all bets are off…
you fight back.
@@jakebarnes28 Glad you admit it.
@@Stoddardian As a German, even during the election campaign for the 2016 election me and many people i know figured this out right away. just listen to his rethoric before he was was president for his first term. Many people from different backrounds call Trump for over 8 years wannabe Hitler... because thats what he is. And how he presents himself.
"Journalism"
I'm sorry the New York Times, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, FOX did that to you.
@@claireconover
This is just hysterical fear porn for Lefties. If a Democrat did any of these things, or did similar things in the opposite direction, the NYT would be totally fine with it.
What does that mean? You define the difference. NPR or Faux are podcasted and consider themselves journalistic. Are you just saying, be aware of what you listen to? Vet what you listen to? Is itva personsal platform for entertainment? There are nuances with podcasts. It's the listener's job to know about where the information is coming from. For now, be thankful we can have equal rights to discuss and freedom of speech and that we are not told who to listen to. Drumpf will take away these rights one brick at a time. We must save democracy.@@claireconover
Keep boosting the algorithm ❤
"insightful comment"
How is this different from Dick Cheney? TDS
huh?
Rumsfeld too. Great point but loyalty to Country was NOT in dispute.
Trump Hates USA and his own followers. He mocks and thinks #1 economy is in decline.
It's not, that's the point that they made in the podcast. This has been a work in progress since Reagan. And every republican administration has been chipping away at checks and balances.
I'm worried that a second Trump presidency may hurt my stock positions in Raytheon, Northrup Grummon and Lockheed Martin.
trump increased defense budget spending last time. more and more weapons. dont worry your stock will be fine
@@Solar.Geoengineering.Advocate He wasn't promoting one war after the other, with hundreds of billions sent as gifts to the weapon makers to prolong wars everywhere.
@@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590 biden pulled us out of afghanistan and u lost ur sh over it. it's misleading to say trump was anti conflict theres a 2023 foreignpolicy article by Matthew Duss that breaks down all he was up to behind the scenes. also he MASSIVELY ramped up drone striking, a practice that mostly kills civilians
@@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590 Matthew Duss has a 2023 article in foreignpolicy that goes into all that orange jesus was up to. he also MASSIVELY ramped up drone campaigns that mostly end the innocent.
@@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590 u tube wont let me respond gotta stop using this site really
TDS
Read Heritage's Project 2025, there is a summary on website.
Cult45
You all talk about this like it's normal. This is a serious threat to the fabric of our Democracy. Why so blase?
Right - because its definitely just fine and Democratic to use a system of kangaroo courts to stop the people from being able to elect the person who they want to be president.
I mean, how are you going to complain about 'democracy' when your guy is trying to jail his opponent?
@@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590 no actual evidence of that, just your tangerine messiah saying it like usual. trump ~ ooooh booohooo the law of the land shouldn't apply to me. his flock ~ yeah thats right trump having to face accountability for his crimes is as bad as what happened to nelson mandela
Why do Americans call it a democracy when in every elections you only really have 2 choices. In my country there's already 90 political parties running in any given elections. Yes there are big parties but even then they don't ever run the entire government as a majority, they always need the small parties to form a government.
@@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590 yes, let's completely hold one guy above the law in the name of democracy.
I hope all who watch this hit the like bottom. To keep it spreading for the o es who actually care about this country will listen to what he has panned for Americans. GOD HELP AMERICANS..
Only people who back Iraq butchering Biden 'care about this country'?
😇Biden 2024📢💖🇺🇸🌎
disaster…
We have a president now who literally thinks that his uncle was eaten by cannibals.
@@erc9468 we had a president who thinks if theres a pandemic you shpould be injected with disinfectant....... and some of you actually were hospitalised for doing it.
@@erc9468 … and you think anyone cares about that? so freaking what?!
@@erc9468Apocalypse Now wasn't far off. Maybe it was Biden's metaphor for today. One party eating itself alive. R.I.P. Conservatives. They don't exist any longer.
@@claireconover
So what? These people are freaking out about Trump - meanwhile we have a president that is so demented that he’s no longer in touch with anything resembling reality.
I had to listen to this twice. Wow, so much to take in. Vote people! Like vote! It shouldn't be close, we shouldn't be waiting all week to see if Biden has won. Make everyone vote!
Propaganda crap as pur usual.
yeah similar to an average Trump ralley when he plays his Hitler choreography.
I'm definitely voting trump 2024
Yeah, give this angry, sullen vindictive guy absolutely immunity from ever being prosecuted for crimes.
What a ridiculous biased assessment..
$2.00 gas, no war, less fentanyl… I get that this episode was meant to be fear porn for rich people, but how’s it landing for normies?
I’m not rich and a second Trump term scares the living sh*t out of me. BTW, has no one told you: 1) the U.S. doesn’t control disputes within or between other countries; and 2) gas prices fluctuate based on factors that are largely out of the control of the government (for instance, low prices due to the fact that fewer people were driving because there was a global pandemic, which, BTW, was met with a totally incompetent response from Trump)? Also, wages are going up faster than inflation, particularly at the low end of the socioeconomic spectrum. Have a nice day.
@@vinista256 "the U.S. doesn't control disputes within or between other countries" Care to explain what the $800 Billion+ which your government spends each year on hard power alone is supposed to be for, then?
@@jimslickens2325 we can only stand prepared, but if Hamas and the Israeli government are hell bent on attacking each other or Russia is hell bent on making a land grab in Ukraine, there are limits on what we can do without provoking WWIII 🤷🏻♀️.
1. “A minor incursion into Ukraine would be fine.” -Joseph R. Biden
2. Two years without new gas leases. Not issuing off shore permits. Eliminating LNG exports. Killing the Keystone pipeline. Dumping the strategic petroleum reserve then refusing to refill it. And so on.
@@vinista256 The United States Government funnels billions of dollars towards not only the state of Israel, but also the Palestinian authority, not to mention stationing a carrier group in the Eastern Mediterranean. The same magnitude of support runs from the United States to the Ukrainian War effort. Who controls the purse strings, controls the trigger fingers. If there were serious unified will for a peaceful resolution in the Middle East, within the US Executive, the Americans could set down any peace settlement they wished, unilaterally intervening on either side, even setting up whatsoever population transfers they saw fit. Such a unified will does not exist, but this does not mean that the US would be incapable of enforcing its will, should it develop one.
Regarding that Eastern European War, it is true, America's hands are more tied, so the calculation is different. The US probably cannot force a settlement even at the status quo ante, but probably could arrange some sort of settlement containing limited border modifications, or they can continue to use this war to bleed Russia dry (this latter option is the favoured position in the Cabinet Departments). A peace is possible, but is not thought to be optimal, so the war will continue at the behest of the United States.
Is it just me or is the NYT getting more racist by the month?
I've just listened to 46 minutes of real life examples from the classic authoritarian's playbook. Completely clarifies how Trump can admire such oxygen thieves as Orban and Putin so much.
Just say “a dictator”.
Lies lies and more lies
Which part, specifically? 🤔
Cult45 spotted
1. Trump didn’t go after Clinton or order a second investigation of her.
2. Consolidation of power isn’t a conservative principle, in the post-2000 era it’s a leftist principle. “I’ve got a phone, I’ve got a pen, and my administration is going to keep moving forward with or without congress.” is Obama, not Trump. Vax mandates, and shifting the student loan debt of rich people onto the middle class, without congress are Biden moves.
Need a safe space from reality?
Do you really?
I would rather have Trump than Biden. This has been the worst 3 1/2 yrs of my life economically, socially. No hope with 4 more years of DNC. The USA is in decline under this administration.
I have a sneaking suspicion that Biden isn't the thing that's causing your social life to decay