Excellent video ! one suggestion: twice as many passes on each grit, to better remove the scratches left by the previous grit. I use a 1x42 machine, with P120 (damaged edges), P220, P400, P1000, P2500 belts. (that's 125, 68, 35, 18.3, 8.4 microns) then coarse and fine compounds on leather. Good for kitchen knives, chisels, plane irons, gouges. Just watch the heat ... dip in water if edge gets too hot to touch.
This is a terrific video Mr. Curry. Most that I've watched either have inane background music, people who are more interested in talking (or yelling) about and promoting themselves or little factual data about what they're demonstrating. Yours are clear, concise, informative and enjoyable. New subscriber...
As an artist that works in polished stone; I can see the benefits of higher grits. My final polish on most stones is 14,000 grit, some up to 50,000 grit.
The take away for me is the camera and being able to SEE what is going on at the business end. El Cheapo camera you say, but the view on the the screen is amazing. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for the great explanations. Keep up the good work! I'm just starting to learn how to sharpen my own blades with anything other than a Chef's Choice 120 3 stage sharpener. I'm just learning about edge geometry and how to maintain a concave grind vs a convex or scandi, etc. I need knowledge, and I need wisdom. So please, teach teacher, teach! And preach preacher, preach!
If you can keep the heat down, your angles tight, and add something like a felt or leather belt for stropping (which WILL fit) this is a GREAT piece of equipment for the money.
Agreed Edmond. Need a light touch if stock 3450rpm motor. Variable speed is the way to go. Check my other videos on the Rikon sander and a new video I have on belts if interested. Aloha
I sharpen professionally so I've upgraded to some more precise and less economical equipment but as I said, FOR THE MONEY, this is a really great piece.
I really like this video. Good explanation and the scope pictures are fascinating. Thanks for sharing the tuning tips on this tool, If I end up getting one of these I will come back and watch this video again.
I see that the edge guide can be ordered to go with the belt or away from the belt. So if I was going to lay it on the back I would order the away version?
Thanks for the idea, Ive been playing around with a few things. For many the guide alone will work fine. So far Im liking the heavy duty duct tape because it seems to hold up and when it gets dirty can be replaced easy enough.
I know this is an older video and that you have upgraded your equipment but still wonder if you think the belt system is a better system than the Tormeck system. If so, for what reason.
Sorry I missed your question. You could only if you were to remount the back rest hanging down from above. It would be simple enough to do but it doesnt work very well as the belt will "suck" the blade off the guide and ruin the bevel. I just made a new video on the guide and will go into edge trailing and leading pros n cons very soon. Sorry again for delay in responding, found your comment "pending approval". Adjust settings now. Cheers!
Apologies to all for delays in reply's to questions and feedback. I have several new videos planned including a tour of my newly expanded shop area, a video on just the belts Im currently using and how I use them for different finishes, and finally a new video on my latest sharpening techniques and why I like it so much.
I will check that out! Currently I use a heavy duty duct tape that seems to last just ok. Its has to be pretty touch to handle the wear from sliding the blade across repeatedly.
Great video. I love the combination of high grit and microscope. If you can add a BESS sharpness test I'll die. Straight up die from watching it over and over again.
I recently borrowed a friends BESS and had some fun for a few weeks. Sub 100 consistent with the 1x30 belts n strops. Didnt even think to record it. Damn!
Where did you get or how did you make the "bevel guide" attachment you have on the "vertical riser" behind the belt? Would you show it in greater detail, please? Great job and thanks for the video.
This guide is called the surgi-sharp angle guide and is readily available online to purchase. somewhere around $35. It's a great accessory. You can find it here: tinyurl.com/zwkk89o I've recently upgraded and tuned my entire sharpener to great improvement and will try to get a how to video on that up next. Thanks for the question.
I have some really exciting new stuff to share. My shop remodel is almost finished and then Ill record some more! Thanks to everyone for the support and interest. Honestly didnt expect the response but with new subscribers everyday Id better get on the ball here and share some new stuff. As always its "where Im at", not meant to ever be the final word on the sharpening. Far as I can tell this rabbit hole doesnt have a bottom, just a practical limit. lol
John Holmes thanks for the interest. I didn't show it much in this earlier video but it is just a generic no name x400 USB scope, they run about $20. I plan to upgrade at some point but it works great for edge examination.
Carefully observe where the chatter is coming from? Is it the belt joint hitting the leading edge of the platten? Move platten back slightly or round off the leading edge etc
jim noyb that's exactly what I did by replacing the single phase AC motor with a variable speed DC. great advice it really makes a huge difference in the control.
that is the safest way to go, if you really want to cya, replace the ac breaker with a GFI, breaker, if the unit jams for any reason, it will save the speed control.
Good, good commentary. Just what I needed to know about the HF. So glad you didn’t participate in the intelligence-insulting, paper cutting parlor trick.
LOL.. There is valuable information to be had by test cutting. Same can be said for "hair shaving". I hear what your saying tho. Free standing phone book, push cutting machete is still a really really good trick! Aloha ;)
I've seen guys sharpen with the edge up and others with the edge down to the direction of the sand paper. I see your angle guide points it up. Are there pros and cons to each? Why do you prefer up, if you do?
Derek Granquist both methods have pros & cons. lol like edge leading for bevel consistency and burr minimizing. edge trailing is good for convex bevels and full tapers...
I found this on RUclips from 3M (Page) ruclips.net/video/EYzTt3B6YKQ/видео.html it basically a Scotch-Brite Durable Flex belt against the Non-Woven belt like you showed in this video. The durable flex belt may fit better and perform to the same level without any significant modification to the sander..
Sorry for the hassle Mark. I have answered this question on several occasions and the info was posted just a few comments below. I am now adding it to the description area.
Your video is not well made. We all know that. Specifically: you open up with a negative statement about something you're going to use, and give no specifications to back up your accusation of it. And what do you mean "we all know that"? Do you mean "those who have used it"? Do not try to put your opinion into other men's heads. Here's an example: "Cars are not well made. We all know that." "Stew does not taste good. We all know that." Like the man said in the movie: "Don't give me those negative vibes so early in the morning!"
Just a sad part of being a youtuber. People are like seagulls...they just fly by squawk and poop then fly off...I mean its a 4yr old video when I was brand new at recording if I had focused on comments like this I would have never overcame the fear of making them. Cheers bud!
Excellent video ! one suggestion: twice as many passes on each grit, to better remove the scratches left by the previous grit. I use a 1x42 machine, with P120 (damaged edges), P220, P400, P1000, P2500 belts. (that's 125, 68, 35, 18.3, 8.4 microns) then coarse and fine compounds on leather. Good for kitchen knives, chisels, plane irons, gouges. Just watch the heat ... dip in water if edge gets too hot to touch.
This is a terrific video Mr. Curry. Most that I've watched either have inane background music, people who are more interested in talking (or yelling) about and promoting themselves or little factual data about what they're demonstrating. Yours are clear, concise, informative and enjoyable. New subscriber...
This is gold! Thanks for posting this up mate.
I am definitely getting a u.s.b cam just to study what my 2000 grit ceramic stone and strop does. So cool!
Very very excellent video. You deserve a lot of credit for making this!
As an artist that works in polished stone; I can see the benefits of higher grits. My final polish on most stones is 14,000 grit, some up to 50,000 grit.
The take away for me is the camera and being able to SEE what is going on at the business end. El Cheapo camera you say, but the view on the the screen is amazing. Thank you for sharing.
Very welcome and I couldnt agree more.
One of the better sharpening videos. Thank you very.
the knife steel in those cheap kitchen knives probably won't apex up as much as other steels kind of interesting to see up close
Thanks
Any idea when the upgrade wheels will be available?
Should be back up in the stock now just hit the refresh button ✅
Another excellent video...I appreciate all the info on using the HF belt sander and how to use it! Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Thanks for taking the time for this video 👍🔬
Great info: no baloney. I love it - thanks.
Great video with all the right "tweaks".
Please make a video on the angle jig for the belt sander.
what angle did you shapen at?
Thanks for the great explanations. Keep up the good work! I'm just starting to learn how to sharpen my own blades with anything other than a Chef's Choice 120 3 stage sharpener.
I'm just learning about edge geometry and how to maintain a concave grind vs a convex or scandi, etc.
I need knowledge, and I need wisdom. So please, teach teacher, teach! And preach preacher, preach!
What are you using to view the blade edge under high magnification? Thanks for posting!
Is it possible for you to list the names of the things, like the "cheapy camera", you use and where you buy your belts from.
The scope is indeed a cheapy but functions good for this purpose. I cant claim this is the exact same one >> goo.gl/HAKqzz
I cut that whole top part off so that I can turn it around and use that whole section to work on stuff with the belt trailing instead of leading.
The frame does supply some ridigity also if it ever drops the neck can snap off. I learned that the hard way!
If you can keep the heat down, your angles tight, and add something like a felt or leather belt for stropping (which WILL fit) this is a GREAT piece of equipment for the money.
Agreed Edmond. Need a light touch if stock 3450rpm motor. Variable speed is the way to go. Check my other videos on the Rikon sander and a new video I have on belts if interested. Aloha
I sharpen professionally so I've upgraded to some more precise and less economical equipment but as I said, FOR THE MONEY, this is a really great piece.
I really like this video. Good explanation and the scope pictures are fascinating. Thanks for sharing the tuning tips on this tool, If I end up getting one of these I will come back and watch this video again.
Never boring
I bought one of these belt sanders. What about taking a cutoff wheel and removing the top backing to give more room?
Great video, but where do you by your belts!? Not Harbor Freight!
We now offer the best belts available hopefully at the best price too.
www.currycustomcutlery.com
Would it be good to put a 1725rpm motor on that 1 by 30?
In some later videos he mentioned that about 2000rpm works fine, so 1725 should do it.
I see that the edge guide can be ordered to go with the belt or away from the belt. So if I was going to lay it on the back I would order the away version?
I am not a fan of the edge trailing angle guide
👍👍 really enjoyed this video. Thx.
What grit sand paper did u use to true the wheels?
a more rough grit to remove the material
Its norton norax. Trizac is the similar 3M product
You could put a piece of Kork stuff on there as a replacement for the ducttape
Thanks for the idea, Ive been playing around with a few things. For many the guide alone will work fine. So far Im liking the heavy duty duct tape because it seems to hold up and when it gets dirty can be replaced easy enough.
Why smooth the wheel? I thought you’d want it gripping the belt well
Hello! Great video! I was just wondering where you got your belts?
I know this is an older video and that you have upgraded your equipment but still wonder if you think the belt system is a better system than the Tormeck system. If so, for what reason.
You shoukd ask this question in a newer video.
Can you flip the surgi sharp guide so you can hold the cutting edge down on the belt instead of up/against the belt direction?
Sorry I missed your question. You could only if you were to remount the back rest hanging down from above. It would be simple enough to do but it doesnt work very well as the belt will "suck" the blade off the guide and ruin the bevel.
I just made a new video on the guide and will go into edge trailing and leading pros n cons very soon. Sorry again for delay in responding, found your comment "pending approval". Adjust settings now. Cheers!
Very well done, thank you! I have new hope that I can use my sanding belts for more work on my knives.
Apologies to all for delays in reply's to questions and feedback. I have several new videos planned including a tour of my newly expanded shop area, a video on just the belts Im currently using and how I use them for different finishes, and finally a new video on my latest sharpening techniques and why I like it so much.
How did you polish the one at the end with the wooden handle?
Why not put Dr. Scholl's® Moleskin on the surgi-sharp angle guide? The video is great, your not talking too much.
I will check that out! Currently I use a heavy duty duct tape that seems to last just ok. Its has to be pretty touch to handle the wear from sliding the blade across repeatedly.
Very impressive
Great video. I love the combination of high grit and microscope. If you can add a BESS sharpness test I'll die. Straight up die from watching it over and over again.
I recently borrowed a friends BESS and had some fun for a few weeks. Sub 100 consistent with the 1x30 belts n strops. Didnt even think to record it. Damn!
Where did you get or how did you make the "bevel guide" attachment you have on the "vertical riser" behind the belt? Would you show it in greater detail, please? Great job and thanks for the video.
This guide is called the surgi-sharp angle guide and is readily available online to purchase. somewhere around $35. It's a great accessory. You can find it here: tinyurl.com/zwkk89o
I've recently upgraded and tuned my entire sharpener to great improvement and will try to get a how to video on that up next. Thanks for the question.
Hi there, great video! I think using a USB camera to view the edge is inspired, are you able to confirm what camera you're using please?
Curry Custom Cutlery
Thanks so much for the info!! I appreciate you taking the time to respond and for posting your videos!
The microscope is a generic x400 usb scope you can find on Amazon. They are more of less all about the same for $20.
I have some really exciting new stuff to share. My shop remodel is almost finished and then Ill record some more! Thanks to everyone for the support and interest.
Honestly didnt expect the response but with new subscribers everyday Id better get on the ball here and share some new stuff. As always its "where Im at", not meant to ever be the final word on the sharpening. Far as I can tell this rabbit hole doesnt have a bottom, just a practical limit. lol
I'd like to know more about the magnifier your using. Do you have a vid on it?
John Holmes thanks for the interest. I didn't show it much in this earlier video but it is just a generic no name x400 USB scope, they run about $20. I plan to upgrade at some point but it works great for edge examination.
I am getting a lot of chatter when I press against the platen, any tips about that?
Carefully observe where the chatter is coming from? Is it the belt joint hitting the leading edge of the platten? Move platten back slightly or round off the leading edge etc
@@CurryCustomCutlery thanks I'll check it out
Excellent video,very informative. Thank you.
Some great information !!
Nicely done sir
Thank you for this..really big help
No test cut😬
impressed... You did an awesome job. Im going get a grinder tomorrow. And a camera.
Very informative, thanks a lot. How so many people profess their expertise in knife sharpening without using a microscope I'll never quite understand.
Why would you sharpen going up with angle and belt coming downwards?
There are distinct advantages to this method as well as concerns that need to not be ignored.
@@CurryCustomCutlery yeah I ate my blade trying that. I just saw they have an angle guide that goes away from the blade.
@@robertmunguia250 the angle guide that goes away from the blade will never work precisely because the belt will PULL the knife off the guide.
@@CurryCustomCutlery would you happen to do a video on how to sharpen correctly on that angle guide? The one you use.
@@robertmunguia250 He's got lots of them.
Excellent video.
nice job 👍👍
What make/model camera are you using?
You can get a speed controller to reduce the speed
jim noyb that's exactly what I did by replacing the single phase AC motor with a variable speed DC. great advice it really makes a huge difference in the control.
that is the safest way to go, if you really want to cya, replace the ac breaker with a GFI, breaker, if the unit jams for any reason, it will save the speed control.
Speed control does not work very well at all with stock motor . Need to get a variable speed motor to use the variable speed control .
Good, good commentary. Just what I needed to know about the HF. So glad you didn’t participate in the intelligence-insulting, paper cutting parlor trick.
LOL.. There is valuable information to be had by test cutting. Same can be said for "hair shaving". I hear what your saying tho. Free standing phone book, push cutting machete is still a really really good trick! Aloha ;)
I've seen guys sharpen with the edge up and others with the edge down to the direction of the sand paper. I see your angle guide points it up. Are there pros and cons to each? Why do you prefer up, if you do?
Derek Granquist both methods have pros & cons. lol like edge leading for bevel consistency and burr minimizing. edge trailing is good for convex bevels and full tapers...
Curry Custom Cutlery are you using the leather belt trailing awayfrom or leading into the edge??
Curry Custom Cutlery /
Do you run the leather belt into the edge or away from it?
was a sharpening stone also used in this process?
I found this on RUclips from 3M (Page) ruclips.net/video/EYzTt3B6YKQ/видео.html it basically a Scotch-Brite Durable Flex belt against the Non-Woven belt like you showed in this video. The durable flex belt may fit better and perform to the same level without any significant modification to the sander..
your name is raymond:D
🙏
Woot!
THE ANGLE GUIDE IS A SURGI-SHARP ANGLE GUIDE ON EBAY, PLEASE PRINT THIS ON YOU'R VIDEO , IT TOKE ME 2 HRS TO FIND OUT WHERE TO BUY IT.
Sorry for the hassle Mark. I have answered this question on several occasions and the info was posted just a few comments below. I am now adding it to the description area.
😊
Pretty sure u can't find this at harbor freight anymore
What is that John? As far as I know everything is still available. Let me know Ill try n help.
I just bought one a week ago...
It's still on their website
Your video is not well made. We all know that. Specifically: you open up with a negative statement about something you're going to use, and give no specifications to back up your accusation of it. And what do you mean "we all know that"? Do you mean "those who have used it"? Do not try to put your opinion into other men's heads. Here's an example: "Cars are not well made. We all know that." "Stew does not taste good. We all know that."
Like the man said in the movie: "Don't give me those negative vibes so early in the morning!"
Dave Smith obviously you've never owned a Harbor Freight 1x30. Your negativity about the review was baseless.
Just a sad part of being a youtuber. People are like seagulls...they just fly by squawk and poop then fly off...I mean its a 4yr old video when I was brand new at recording if I had focused on comments like this I would have never overcame the fear of making them. Cheers bud!
@@mtlefty8687 I've owned one and still do. It is reasonably well made.