i really like the idea of having the little one and being able to expand it to add an hx stomp or an iridium, then being able to simply remove it if using a real amp. thought these were kind of gimmicky when they were first announced but i'm coming round to them
I got both of them a few weeks ago. I love that I'm not locked into a certain size, so I can figure out what I want on the boards without having to bump pedals. My only criticism is that the smaller board isn't tall enough for most power supplies to fit under it. I'd rather not buy another power supply, so I'll probably just expand the board and put the supply on top. Tacky, but practical.
Tacky but practical is probably the best description of these boards. The telescoping aspect is kinda gimmicky but the pedaltrain-style is hard to beat for basic “pedalboarding”. Love your videos btw. Didn’t know you played as well
@@rcolpitts5528 I’m sure you could easily do that. But it depends on how much clearance you’re gonna need AND if the screws for the feet are long enough to accommodate. Sometimes with pre-fab boards the screws aren’t a universal type so you can’t ever necessarily buy Longer screws and expect them to work.
@@rcolpitts5528 I changed the screws on the feet that came on mine to fit my power supply underneath, it’s not a huge difference and it works great. Was very easy to work with. I just had a bag of screws around so I changed them around till I found a good one, if I can figure out the exact size I’ll let you know.
I had to do the same as I own a Walrus Audio AETOS PSU and no way in hell it will go under the board. The problem with the XPND 1 is you really have no room to mount a good PSU underneath at all, so if you already own a PSU make sure it will work as most will not.
I wish this board was less expensive. If you're starting out in the world of pedals, an expanding pedal board is a fantastic idea. But this costs so much!
Having a pedal across the lip is the big issue I had when they announced these. I’m glad the locks seem secure, almost like tripod legs. Not sold on them in practice but the idea is novel.
Ya! I'm into it...currently in the position of needing to expand from my years old pedaltrain 2 I think it is? Got a whack of groovy new pedals and they're all on a 24 x 20 chunk of squishy foam but I need to get them rocking to jam with some friends. I like the idea of being able to slide that tray thing out and add stuff. Super cool!
Bought the smaller version. 9 pedals, all but 2 (Iridium, Lightspeed) are mini sized. Cioks DC-7 for power underneath. Made my Sunday set up and load in/ out a breeze. Love it compared to heavy boards.
Thank you for this man I am going to buy one right now as we speak walking in guitar Walmart. I appreciate your insight as always sir you should continue to do the genre specific afford a board series
The amp switcher takes up an enormous amount of real estate. I'd also suggest that if you're really switching between two amps, that may not a minimalist rig. Per usual, just a great vid. Thanks for all you do.
I was looking into this as I'm currently living abroad with a limited range of my complete pedal collection, but will of course be expanding it over time. It seems really well designed and thought out, but I couldn't really justify the price -- the softcase bag is almost as much as the pedalboard itself, and you'd need that of course for any gigs! But I found out that Harley Benton (Thomann) has come out with their own expandable pedalboards (Spaceship Flex) which are half the price of the Daddario and come with a (simple) softcase included. The pedalboard is not as lightweight as the D'addario one and I'm sure it's not as high quality, but for my current needs it seemed like a better deal.
Was thinking to get this. Then saw how much the bag cost, I decided to get either the Nux, Fender or Pedaltrain. Because these guys came with the bags!
Love the idea, concept and execution! Don’t love that it doesn’t come with a bag, I typically will take my pedalboard to all sorts of places so that’s a bit of a need lol. Other then that amazing product!
Hey man, loved your video, I just has a question about the case though, say you expand the board fully and then want to take it to a gig, I assume you gotta get some sort of additional case beyond what is supplied? If so d'addario need to make an expanding case next!
I just got a HoleyBoard 123. I don't make changes often (last board stayed the same for 25 years!!!!) and I prefer a two tiered style. I also just zip-tied my pedals on. Works for me! This does look great though for those that make changes every-so-often.
These are pretty cool. I don't really do pedalboards since I tend to just run a floor modeler/multi-fx but if I were setting a board up these would definitely get consideration. Like that you can buy for what you have but not have to buy a new board if you get some more pedals. Also really like the idea someone below had about having your board set up and expanding it out to fit a compact modeler like an HX Stomp if you wanna go into front of house instead of into an amp. could be a very cool little travel rig in that regard.
I bought the double row board for £140 here in the U.K. which £30 cheaper that most retailers. It's shame there isn't a bag for those that gig, but as a bedroom player like me I'm still happy. I just to buy the bigger Fender Engine Room now!
I bought the smaller one because I was just getting into pedals but I wish I would’ve gotten the larger one seeing I have gone down the pedal-rabbit-hole 😂
Feel you on the double delay Or double reverb. Right now I’ve got the JHS hall hanging out outside the board and swapping it around pre or post-drive. (I think it’s going to stay pre…so fun with its massive decay). I do keep 2 delays on the board as well but I sure don’t run all 4 at once
I run 3, a 24x12, a 42x17, and a 34x18, 70ish pedals😅 I do some CRAZY shit! I just look for the biggest I can... Also, the end sounds like some of what I do😉
@@60CycleHumcasthey Ryan! Are you still using these boards? I just ordered mine and a bag. Daddario makes fantastic gig bags, I’m thinking about picking up the backpack eventually soon too
I really enjoyed your presentation. I am thinking of getting the small board to put my Dream 65, Halo, and Cloudburst on. I play at church like you. It is my weekly blast! God bless you and all you love my brother. P.S. I am thinking about going all in and buying the CIOKS power supply. What do you think?
i haven't used the CIOKS but im sure its great. Im currently using a walrus power supply with this board. My experience with power supplies is that they all work perfect until you find that one pedal that is picky for some reason.
Couldn't really tell at the end, but how big was your power supply when you finally mounted it on the big chonker? Would you say it's big enough to accommodate a Truetone CS12 power supply underneath?
Do you imagine it's possible to build this board so that it extends to the right rather than the left? Edit: I'm guessing that center leg support only works on the left side of the board, only allowing the board to expand to the left. And maybe that the left end panel is "ported" to fit the smaller, internal crossbeam, and that the right end panel is "ported" to fit the larger, external crossbeam?
@@j.aut.1275 Oh, thanks, J. Aut. for your replies! I've been editing my initial post completely oblivious. RUclips only just now shared the notifications. Would a central leg that works the other direction allow the extension to go the other way? Is that all that is needed? I wonder, if D'Addario offered an add-on "right extension leg" for an extra price, if there would be a price point where people would purchase and they would be able to make money.
Im not 100% certain because I havent tried, but I think you could set it up the other way, the locks would swap position and the daddario logo wouldn't face out anymore but all the parts seems symmetrical so I don't see why it wouldn't work.
I’m not seeing the point of the expandability if you are having to tear down and set up your board each time in order to travel and have it compact. That time and effort alone that is lost constructing and deconstructing it each time doesn’t strike me as something worth doing over a non-expandable board. Am I missing something?
@@60CycleHumcast I’m thinking of using the small one for gigging/travelling. So that it’s compact to fit into a smaller bag while in transit, but for the gig you expand it/set it up. In that scenario, the time lost doing that would not be worth it. If, however, you just keep these boards as studio/ home tools and increase the expansion as and when you buy new pedals - it’s more useful that way.
Seems gimmicky at best. The fact that you have to assemble it yourself like a piece of Ikea furniture, as well as not automatically coming with either a gig bag or hard case, proves that Pedaltrain has done it right and shows that D'Addario really didn't put too much effort in designing this before release. Pedaltrain's boards and cases have both improved greatly since I bought my first, yet the fact I'm still using that same one shows that the build quality was there from the start. I personally have never been a fan of D'Addario in any way, their strings sound dull and lifeless straight out of the pack compared to Ernie Ball, and their other products always kinda look and feel cheap despite the price reflecting a premium product's.
Kind of a shit design with the two pieces being offset. I’ve switched to a small two tier board from NUX and I can never go back. Wish tiered boards were more popular.
Every body is reviewing these stupid things, just another gimmick, looks cheesy, I will not be buying one you havnt influenced me, I hope they paid you well. Orange amps RULE!
You clicked the video and commented, I influenced you. I just don't get along with orange amps. Maybe one day Ill find one that I like, but so far that hasn't happened.
@@60CycleHumcast Fair enough, different amps for different types of music. Fleetwood Mac, Black Sabbath and many other used Orange. British amps American amps all have their place. I would love to have a Fender Twin 12
The music you used while you built the pedal board was brilliant. 10/10
I can’t stand it lol
@@Rarebirdeffects it reminds me of an 80s sitcom intro where the composer just gave up
i really like the idea of having the little one and being able to expand it to add an hx stomp or an iridium, then being able to simply remove it if using a real amp. thought these were kind of gimmicky when they were first announced but i'm coming round to them
I was a bit nervous when they first wrote me about them, but the design and execution is really solid.
I got both of them a few weeks ago. I love that I'm not locked into a certain size, so I can figure out what I want on the boards without having to bump pedals. My only criticism is that the smaller board isn't tall enough for most power supplies to fit under it. I'd rather not buy another power supply, so I'll probably just expand the board and put the supply on top. Tacky, but practical.
Tacky but practical is probably the best description of these boards. The telescoping aspect is kinda gimmicky but the pedaltrain-style is hard to beat for basic “pedalboarding”.
Love your videos btw. Didn’t know you played as well
Would it be easy enough to just put some bigger feet to raise the smaller board?
@@rcolpitts5528 I’m sure you could easily do that. But it depends on how much clearance you’re gonna need AND if the screws for the feet are long enough to accommodate. Sometimes with pre-fab boards the screws aren’t a universal type so you can’t ever necessarily buy Longer screws and expect them to work.
@@rcolpitts5528 I changed the screws on the feet that came on mine to fit my power supply underneath, it’s not a huge difference and it works great. Was very easy to work with. I just had a bag of screws around so I changed them around till I found a good one, if I can figure out the exact size I’ll let you know.
I had to do the same as I own a Walrus Audio AETOS PSU and no way in hell it will go under the board. The problem with the XPND 1 is you really have no room to mount a good PSU underneath at all, so if you already own a PSU make sure it will work as most will not.
This product is very practical for pedalboard dudes like me. im constantly rearranging it. Cool product. Thx Ryan!
I wish this board was less expensive.
If you're starting out in the world of pedals, an expanding pedal board is a fantastic idea. But this costs so much!
Having a pedal across the lip is the big issue I had when they announced these. I’m glad the locks seem secure, almost like tripod legs.
Not sold on them in practice but the idea is novel.
Depends on the tripod, I have some saggy tripods lol.
I just ordered one of the larger boards and enjoyed your overview! Some cool/creative video edits showing the board too :)
Ya! I'm into it...currently in the position of needing to expand from my years old pedaltrain 2 I think it is? Got a whack of groovy new pedals and they're all on a 24 x 20 chunk of squishy foam but I need to get them rocking to jam with some friends. I like the idea of being able to slide that tray thing out and add stuff. Super cool!
Bought the smaller version. 9 pedals, all but 2 (Iridium, Lightspeed) are mini sized. Cioks DC-7 for power underneath. Made my Sunday set up and load in/ out a breeze. Love it compared to heavy boards.
You could call it a 'fingerboard' rather than a pedal board. Or you could insert one or 2 of them into your guitar!
That mini 250 is rad! Never seen one before
I was going to say the same thing. Maybe he just leaked it to is lmao 🤣
It was a gift a fan sent, a diy build.
Yeah I noticed that pedal too! I want one, or maybe like 7 😅
@@60CycleHumcast Whoever sent it could sell a ton of those! I'd buy one!
Wow things got trippy at about 25:00 glad I stayed until the end.
seems the single row version isnt that great. Pedaltrain is better designed for that size, but the multi-level boards looks useful.
What is that slice of pizza shaped pedal?!?!?! I don't care what it is, I want one! I love collecting odd pedals.
@60 Cycle Hum I need to know about the pizza shaped pedal as well.... because that rules!
Idea for the small board: You could swap your current delay and looper for a flashback v2 and probably fit the volume pedal.
Fantastic video the ending is the best ever
Love the demo video and playing!!!
Thank you for this man I am going to buy one right now as we speak walking in guitar Walmart. I appreciate your insight as always sir you should continue to do the genre specific afford a board series
Loving the design
3:07 That's what she said.
I like this concept, I've been meaning to upgrade my board.
The amp switcher takes up an enormous amount of real estate. I'd also suggest that if you're really switching between two amps, that may not a minimalist rig.
Per usual, just a great vid. Thanks for all you do.
I was looking into this as I'm currently living abroad with a limited range of my complete pedal collection, but will of course be expanding it over time. It seems really well designed and thought out, but I couldn't really justify the price -- the softcase bag is almost as much as the pedalboard itself, and you'd need that of course for any gigs!
But I found out that Harley Benton (Thomann) has come out with their own expandable pedalboards (Spaceship Flex) which are half the price of the Daddario and come with a (simple) softcase included. The pedalboard is not as lightweight as the D'addario one and I'm sure it's not as high quality, but for my current needs it seemed like a better deal.
Was thinking to get this. Then saw how much the bag cost, I decided to get either the Nux, Fender or Pedaltrain. Because these guys came with the bags!
Love the idea, concept and execution! Don’t love that it doesn’t come with a bag, I typically will take my pedalboard to all sorts of places so that’s a bit of a need lol. Other then that amazing product!
Have to bring a board with me to Scotland and was just thinking about what to use. Great timing, seems like a contender
Hey man, loved your video, I just has a question about the case though, say you expand the board fully and then want to take it to a gig, I assume you gotta get some sort of additional case beyond what is supplied? If so d'addario need to make an expanding case next!
Got the smaller version. Instructions were terrible but love the board! Very useful 👍🎸👍
I think it's cool if you're showcasing all the time... very cool though! Awesome video!
The bag expands too? LoL!
Loved your NFL career!
I just got a HoleyBoard 123. I don't make changes often (last board stayed the same for 25 years!!!!) and I prefer a two tiered style. I also just zip-tied my pedals on. Works for me! This does look great though for those that make changes every-so-often.
These are pretty cool. I don't really do pedalboards since I tend to just run a floor modeler/multi-fx but if I were setting a board up these would definitely get consideration. Like that you can buy for what you have but not have to buy a new board if you get some more pedals. Also really like the idea someone below had about having your board set up and expanding it out to fit a compact modeler like an HX Stomp if you wanna go into front of house instead of into an amp. could be a very cool little travel rig in that regard.
I bought the double row board for £140 here in the U.K. which £30 cheaper that most retailers. It's shame there isn't a bag for those that gig, but as a bedroom player like me I'm still happy. I just to buy the bigger Fender Engine Room now!
I bought the smaller one because I was just getting into pedals but I wish I would’ve gotten the larger one seeing I have gone down the pedal-rabbit-hole 😂
Nice layout on both. On the Utility board, you could use the Donner Island Looper and Delay.
You could always get the Hotone Soul Press II for a Wah/Volume pedal.
@D'Adario should make this with 3 rails also. The small is too small. The big is too big.
Oh man, I like to put the soft side of Velcro on my pedals and the hook part on my board. :(
Feel you on the double delay Or double reverb. Right now I’ve got the JHS hall hanging out outside the board and swapping it around pre or post-drive. (I think it’s going to stay pre…so fun with its massive decay). I do keep 2 delays on the board as well but I sure don’t run all 4 at once
Seriously surprised Surfy Bear didn't find a home on the big board.
It made a brief appearance toward the end.
🙌🙌🙌
Just get a Donner echo Square for a smaller delay with various settings.
Can you set it up so the extended part comes out of and slides into the the right side?
"Look ar that it gets big." That's what she said. Yes my 43 year old body has a mind that's still in middle school. LOL
I run 3, a 24x12, a 42x17, and a 34x18, 70ish pedals😅 I do some CRAZY shit!
I just look for the biggest I can...
Also, the end sounds like some of what I do😉
That psych ending was awesome. What is the "building" music you sometimes use in your videos? I need to play that to speed up work sometimes.
From the looks of it and the way you force that expansion out, this isn't wobbly at all? Seems well made.
nope, not wobbly at all. Ive been using this board full time since this video and its still awesome. I really need to get a case for it though.
@@60CycleHumcasthey Ryan! Are you still using these boards? I just ordered mine and a bag. Daddario makes fantastic gig bags, I’m thinking about picking up the backpack eventually soon too
I wish the Velcro didn’t come already on the board. I personally prefer 3M Dual Lock over Velcro.
It worked. But Iam pleased it did. 🎸👀👍🏼
I would raise that drop somehow with a piece of cardboard or something like that and put Velcro over that
Nvm lol
Hey ryan..is there a video for the music lilly. FUZZ ? we wanna see... and hear..i always need a new fuzz
Dude that "gigging" sized board looks exactly like what I need. Definitely gonna check these out
Thanks 😊
"Some assembly"
What power supply are you using on the XPND 2? And does it feel secure with just velcro or would you advise zipping it down too?
what is that crazy green hagstrom?! Is that vintage?
@60 Cycle Hum Please tell us more about that DOD 250 mini!
its a diy build from a fan
@@60CycleHumcast Ok, thanks. A nice one too, very cool!
When it’s stiff and you have to tug it with that extra 7 inches! 🤣. Yeah we could all use an extra stiff 7 inches.
Which power supplies would you use for this?
My issue as you stated was the power supply size limitations. I'll pass.
I really enjoyed your presentation. I am thinking of getting the small board to put my Dream 65, Halo, and Cloudburst on. I play at church like you. It is my weekly blast! God bless you and all you love my brother. P.S. I am thinking about going all in and buying the CIOKS power supply. What do you think?
i haven't used the CIOKS but im sure its great. Im currently using a walrus power supply with this board. My experience with power supplies is that they all work perfect until you find that one pedal that is picky for some reason.
@@60CycleHumcast Thanks for the feedback!
Couldn't really tell at the end, but how big was your power supply when you finally mounted it on the big chonker?
Would you say it's big enough to accommodate a Truetone CS12 power supply underneath?
Your Beard is 🔥🔥
Is that a DOD 250 mini?
It’s a diy build from a fan
My main problem with this is actually the bag, which appears to be the same price as the board
Same here. They really need to make the bags cheaper.
@@stevengrinold3203 in the end I got a secondhand Pedaltrain 3, which is plenty big but not very heavy on its own, and came with a reasonable bag.
@@thexrayteam thanks man, I'll look around a bit. Best wishes!
Is the Cuvave fuzz still sold?
Love the Ratsbane. Super doomy in videos I've seen it in.
yes but under a different name
That Velcro works with the dual lock Velcro?
No they are completely different the XPNDs use standard 'Hook and Loop' style
I'm watching. DOH
Do you imagine it's possible to build this board so that it extends to the right rather than the left?
Edit: I'm guessing that center leg support only works on the left side of the board, only allowing the board to expand to the left. And maybe that the left end panel is "ported" to fit the smaller, internal crossbeam, and that the right end panel is "ported" to fit the larger, external crossbeam?
Not based on the smaller version.
Exactly. It’s configured to work one way, as far as I can tell.
@@j.aut.1275 Oh, thanks, J. Aut. for your replies! I've been editing my initial post completely oblivious. RUclips only just now shared the notifications.
Would a central leg that works the other direction allow the extension to go the other way? Is that all that is needed? I wonder, if D'Addario offered an add-on "right extension leg" for an extra price, if there would be a price point where people would purchase and they would be able to make money.
Im not 100% certain because I havent tried, but I think you could set it up the other way, the locks would swap position and the daddario logo wouldn't face out anymore but all the parts seems symmetrical so I don't see why it wouldn't work.
On second thought, I think it may work. Just the locking mechanism will face the other way.
You can adjust the legs at the back to go higher?
it kind of looks the same size as your other board?
Do you have a link to buy the power supply you used under the smaller pedalboard?
I want
whats that green guitar on the wall behind you?
So this is a vid about a board that expands, and then we spend half the vid getting rid of pedals because they dont fit? :-)
Ah hell where is the fun in that? I enjoy making a pedal board.. I like to cut and paint things :)
PRICES ???
You could make a separate pedal board to fit on one side to slap on at a gig & plug to permanent side ,that makes it versatile
I’m not seeing the point of the expandability if you are having to tear down and set up your board each time in order to travel and have it compact. That time and effort alone that is lost constructing and deconstructing it each time doesn’t strike me as something worth doing over a non-expandable board. Am I missing something?
I think you are inventing unnecessary steps. Why are you tearing it down everytime you play?
@@60CycleHumcast I’m thinking of using the small one for gigging/travelling. So that it’s compact to fit into a smaller bag while in transit, but for the gig you expand it/set it up. In that scenario, the time lost doing that would not be worth it. If, however, you just keep these boards as studio/ home tools and increase the expansion as and when you buy new pedals - it’s more useful that way.
And what about bag?!
They sell bags that go with each board.
@@60CycleHumcast mm what about size?! Smaller version of your pedal inside full size..isn’t that a problem?
the bags are the size of the fully extended board and they come with spacers.
Seems gimmicky at best. The fact that you have to assemble it yourself like a piece of Ikea furniture, as well as not automatically coming with either a gig bag or hard case, proves that Pedaltrain has done it right and shows that D'Addario really didn't put too much effort in designing this before release. Pedaltrain's boards and cases have both improved greatly since I bought my first, yet the fact I'm still using that same one shows that the build quality was there from the start. I personally have never been a fan of D'Addario in any way, their strings sound dull and lifeless straight out of the pack compared to Ernie Ball, and their other products always kinda look and feel cheap despite the price reflecting a premium product's.
Thumbnail looks like Robin Hood :)
Velcro can be changed?
I’m sure it can be, but why would you want to do that?
Kind of a shit design with the two pieces being offset.
I’ve switched to a small two tier board from NUX and I can never go back. Wish tiered boards were more popular.
you dont like two pieces being offset but you want tiers, which are the ultimate offset, lol.
Every body is reviewing these stupid things, just another gimmick, looks cheesy, I will not be buying one you havnt influenced me, I hope they paid you well. Orange amps RULE!
You clicked the video and commented, I influenced you. I just don't get along with orange amps. Maybe one day Ill find one that I like, but so far that hasn't happened.
@@60CycleHumcast Fair enough, different amps for different types of music. Fleetwood Mac, Black Sabbath and many other used Orange. British amps American amps all have their place. I would love to have a Fender Twin 12
Please make a video about Ukraine, it is so necessary now! Now our cities are being bombed, Ukrainians are dying.
So simple to assemble a drummer can do it