The Flat Earth Community is Imploding
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Jeran is going on The Final Experiment, and Level Earth Observer is not very happy with some of his recent comments. It's all going off in the flat Earth community.
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I don’t think it has anything to do with money, they have a few hundred viewers. I think they are scared of loosing their audience through money or not people listen to him and they are so scared of becoming irrelevant and humiliated that they cope as hard and as often as they can to stop the illusion being shattered. It is sad really that they dedicated a significant portion of their lives on a medieval theory. Because they so badly want to believe they are free from propaganda only to ironically eat the propaganda of the Flat pack community
Does it contain no sugar or one gram of sugar per serve?
Can we get this in the UK?
Flat worlders call mri machines spooky science
They're not imploding. They're flattening.
You mean "globe-ning"
They're folding, they're finally folding.
@@eraymonds
"Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen..ahahahaha!!" - Emperor Palpatine
Colapsing in to a ball. Into a BALL
Hah hah!
LEO's first 4 points against Jaren:
1. His own community doesn't trust him.
2. How can he be trusted when his own community doesn't trust him
3. He can't be trusted. Even his own community has lost faith in him.
4. His community doesn't trust him anymore.
I've met numerous toddlers with better reasoning and rhetorical skills than LEO.
This was the most hilarious video in a long time. But honestly what else to expect - there is no debate. They’re either acting for the clout or incapable of… actually nah, they’re just acting.
If pedantic and repetitive had Olympics, LEO would have all the gold medals
It’s extra hilarious because the factual basis of reality does not require faith and I inherently trust no human. I simply use my critical thinking skills and facts to check their math. It may have taken a genius to determine a formula such a f=ma for the first time but any grade schooler can easily check if it’s true in moments using basic math and simple measurement.
Flerfs don’t trust anyone. They can’t agree on anything. They don’t have a “community”. They have people who grift them.
To be fair he does believe that the uh ...Earth is flat. We already knew he wasn't the sharpest bulb in the woods.
it wont make much difference. Remember the time the flat earth people bought a laser ring gyroscope and discovered the earth was a globe. They kept hold of their denial status. Never under estimate the power of stupidity.
Thanks Bob
He passed away sadly@@dogwalker666
Same when they used a laser on the lake. Pure denial.
The problem with Flat Earthers is that they don't understand how models and experiments relate to reality.
The fact is that this experiment shouldn't be necessary. The fact stars rotate clockwise / counterclockwise depending on the hemisphere is all you need. But Flat Earthers aren't able to connect that observation with what it entails.
And observe how the criticisms revolve about if they trust or don't trust someone. And the 'demonstable reality' rejects experiments as a concept. 'Demonstrable reality' means putting a giant spirit level on the earth and eyeballing the bubble. Indirect measurements are just fantasy to him. If you asked him to calculate the speed of a car knowing the distance and time of its travel, he would say that's impossible: eyeballing the speedometer is the only thing he thinks is reality.
A 15° per hour drift, if I remember.
The part that got me was "You don't know if there are multiple suns". That's a new one that I haven't heard before. Not only can light be redirected so that it doesn't shine on every part of a flat surface but there might be more than 1 sun. There is simply no way to fix stubborn.
There are even fewer ways to fix stupid, and that's what we would have to do, to get rid of the flerfs...
@@mace8873 You can fix stupid. You can educate stupid. It's stupid and too stubborn to learn that you can't fix.
@@darylking265 Sure we can educate, but some people are just not going to become smarter, the brain isn't fully developed until the early 20's, after that, that's what you've got to work with. If your brain is defective, it's not going to get any better.
🤔 Is that going to be their explanation for why people see sunrise and sunset at different times? So one for every timezone? 🤦♀🤣
Maybe there's a giant spider that carries a mirror reflecting the sunlight everywhere around the periphery of the Earth (Antarctica), who knows? :D
As a member of the Ice Wall Defense Force, our plants have been doing their job. We're getting our Solar Simulators ready for the Final Experiment
To be honest, "the final experiment" sounds like 'Daleks in Manhattan'.
Same here brother 😂
@@reubenmanzo2054, "Wocka, Wocka!"
Matt, I'm the Captain of the fake robot Armed Penguins. Nice seeing a fellow member here!
@@louisvillejesters7841 Nice, I'm Janitorial Technician at the Personal Solar Launchers.
The “trust your senses” crowd suddenly don’t want us to trust our senses
"Trust your senses" but also "your eyes are lying to you when you watch a sunset and the sun looks like it's staying the same size and setting over a distant horizon. It's actually getting farther away and the horizon doesn't exist"
"Also, pay no attention to the fact that it looks like the setting sun is illuminating the bottoms of clouds and airplanes - that's not actually possible on flat earth and we'll get back to you on why your eyes are wrong"
Never have. There's always some excuse why you shouldn't trust what you see in an airplane.
I love when flat earthers tell you they know the earth is flat because they can see it with their own eyes and you tell them that the world must actually be upside down and mirrored then as that is how your eyes actually see stuff before your brain flips it. Then we get on to optical illusions! God flerfs are silly!
I keep telling them that I trust my senses and my senses show me that the sun, the moon and the constellations set behind a hard obstacle, not they become too small and faint to be seen because of distance.
Then, they seem unconvinced that I should trust my senses.
@@federicogiana Then they say "Well, that's just because someone told you that!" at which point the proper response is "Well, how did you learn about Flat Earth?". This is the farthest I've ever seen that line of reasoning go before they stop responding.
LEO: "I believe in demonstrable reality"
Also LEO: "I refuse to go see a demonstration."
Whelp...
"Not *THAT* reality!" - Demonstrable Reality Denier, 2024
The opposition is just made up stuff. There *could* be multiple suns? Or some kind of unknown optical illusion that we don't understand? That's just trying to duck and doge his way out of facts. Or, you know, the earth *could* be round, right?
That has been the funniest part of this whole thing.
LEO: why are you taking Jaren!?
everyone: because all of you cowards ran for the hills the moment this started.
I mean FELeo is demonstrably deluded.
A real nut case.
"The earth is flat"
How do you know?
"We have observed it"
What about the people who observed the earth to be round?
"LIARS!" 😂
What LEO says: “We don’t trust Jeran.”
What LEO really means: “Fuck, my FE gravy train might be about to end.”
desperately grasping at straws
this could be the final straw to make Jeran finally accept the round truth of the globe
His gravy train isn’t going to end. He should know it and we should know it. The 24 hour sun isn’t going to make any difference. None of this is about reality. It’s about what people want to believe.
@@michaelme1548you can't fix insanity 😔
@@t.kersten7695 It will be... "interesting"
It couldn't be more evident: flat earthers do not want to seek the truth.
Part of me thinks some of these people dont have anything in their lives BUT flat esrth and its community.
Making friends can be hard, but joining a cult is easy.
It's why they don't want to go to the south pole. Regardless of their reasons.
You are 100% correct.
This is why the expedition is called "the final experiment".
It will permanently break appart the flerf society.
Question is into how many pieces will that cult be broken into.
@@ethribin4188 They will just gravitate to an agreed lie, kind of what they are doing already.
This is the truth here : Making friends can be hard, but joining a cult is easy. ♥♥
All that went wrong in your life (school, relationship, work, etc) does not matter anymore, you now belong to a group of friends...
I have a friend of mine that is a flat earther from Argentina. I told him: just get a train to Ushuaia in December, you observe the (almost) 24h sun, and you test for yourself if the theory is sound. It is a bus ride, although it is a long ride my friend is retired and the ticket only costs $45USD - hardly a lot of money if it can indeed unearth history's biggest conspiracy theory.
He never went, he kept spending his time and money reading online evidence for the flat earth and he refused to just take a bus to check for himself.
thats just about sums flat earthers, their entire lives are based on it, if they find out about the truth, their world will literally fall apart
I'm beginning to believe that pretty much every flat head knows they are wrong. It's just that they can't figure out the geometry and physics of a spherical model and don't want to admit it. Or they get a kick out of being contrarians.
@@foodaah Ah, you got here first, I was literally about to comment on how when you base your entire reality on one thing being true, even the thought of it not being the case must be terrifying
As someone who was born and lived for 10 years in Ushuaia, the flaw in this is that... unfortunately there are no trains that go to Ushuaia ;) (but they could take a commercial airliner there any day of the year if they wanted to see this) ;)
The longest night (usually December 21st) is a local festivity day (nothing crazy), but it's crazy to go out at 3AM and see a bit of light blue sky towards the east.
Or to be in almost complete darkness at 4PM when you return from school during the winter time in July. You get used to it I guess.
Yeah they have invested so much of their time energy and personality into this weird theory that they’ll never accept it’s false
"I don't trust him... Why? Look at this clip of him disagreeing with me and calling me names!"
...
*BULLETPROOF SCIENTIFIC REASONING*
Flat Earthers: "We're truth seekers!"
The tiniest glimmer of sense: "If we witness a 24-hour sun, the evidence is against flat earth, debate over."
Flat Earthers: "A witch!"
The grifters are clinging desperately to their meal ticket, and their victims are starting to figure out they were lied to.
Unfortunately some people lack the intelligence and critical thinking skills to see reality.
They believe only what suits their world view eg the young Earth creationists, flat Earthers etc.
If some scam artists like LEO say what backs a flat Earther’s beliefs for them it’s true because it fits their feelings and perceptions of the world.
They view those who are critical thinkers and scientifically literate as the ‘enemy’.
Sad people
Ooh! That's gotta hurt! ; )
Ding, ding, ding, ding.. we have a winner!
let them eat each other alive!
If you can’t trust a flat earther to tell the truth there is no one you can trust
"you do not know if there are multiple suns".
Since we have no observable instances where we have seen multiple suns, demonstrable reality demands that we exclude such an unobserved unreal possibility.
But we observe at least one local sun. That means solar system doesn’t exist
There are Billions and Billions of Suns, go out on a clear night, look up, you wil see a few.
@@mikewest9656 Sun or Sol is the name of our star
@@Globeisahoaxx What exactly is your proof that the sun is local and this means the solar system does not exist? Or what does "solar system" in your belief means that you think it does not exist?
@@gordonbrinkmann local sun is observable reality. The reason they lie about it is because they don’t want people to know what energy hold this system in place
Every time I don't hear about the flat earth crowd, I forget they exist. But when I'm reminded about them an ear-to-ear smile takes over. I can't wait to see what they are up to now!
The Final Experiment will convince some honest flat earthers that the Earth is a globe but, not everyone. "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair.
I’m not sure you actually witness earth below as you fly up to heaven after…. Wait, that’s not the final experiment right?
All flat earthers are trolls or dishonest. When you say the sun never sets and rotates above us and you believe it, when you just have to watch a sunset to see it's wrong, shows these people are dishonest.
@@ryushenron9865 Yep. There are no honest flat earthers.
@@ryushenron9865 Seriously, you left out "deluded".
Sure, if you're deluded, you're not going to be honest, but I feel they earned a category for themselves.
We have a group of people that "believe" some archaic myth that has been known to be false in common knowledge for hundreds of years and known to be false by philosophers for thousands of years. They then proceed to act angry when people disbelieve them, and even mock them. Also their beliefs are inconsistent and there's infighting in their group. The Antarctic midnight sun will force them into a smaller world, which is a good deed, but won't really stop their shenanigans.
It like if we had a group of people that believed plague was caused by evil spirits. Oh wait, we *do* have those people. Never mind.
“I’m not a flat earther”
- “The globe is impossible”
- “The water must be level”
- Named “Level Earth Observer”
- “The Sun goes above the earth, not around it”
Can’t tell if LEO is trolling, in denial, or if this is an aspect of the grift.
Grift.
There's definitely Flerthers who simply refuse to accept outside sources for anything, and it turns out that it's rather difficult to reconstruct science from first principles without specialized tools you get from someone else, or foundational theory you get from someone else. LEO strikes me as one of those, but he's gotten too defensive about it to be objective anymore.
LEO in my opinion is the biggest grifter of them all. He's incredibly obvious. At least the others attempt to hide it, but LEO goes so hard on the flimsiest possible "proofs" that he can be nothing else but a grifter taking money off dumb flerfs.
He isn't a flat earther, he is a bigot. He despises anyone that disagrees with him.
Bigot: a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
The is unreasonably AND obstinately attacked to his belief in his entirely made up "Demonstrable Reality" concept AND is prejudiced AND antagonistic towards people on the basis of their membership to the particular group called "people that don't agree with him." His is a bigot and nobody should interact with him. It would be better if everyone just pretends he doesn't exist and completely ostracizes him from society. Let him fade away into obscurity and be forgotten.
Demonstrable reality shows that LEO is indeed a flat earther 😂
Funny how they trust the ones who WON'T risk their flat earth careers.
What flat earth career? wtf are you talkin about? whats funny is the ONLY FE who agreed to the trip suddenly switches up. but you dum dums dont get the corrolation or will intentionally overlook that very interesting fact. head in sand, means nothing means nothing, lol
And what would Skyman Dan do without the Flat earth??
As with every religion, only the ones that never doubt their crazy beliefs are seen as trustworthy
@@TheDahaka1 Gravity is your God, Newton it's prophet and NASA its DISCIPLES..
@@ramonortiz7462 Probably debunk all the other ridiculous conspiracies, there's plenty of idiots out there to be laughed at/proven wrong.
I like that all of a sudden there's more than 1 sun, it's like they know there's going to be a 24 hour sun
This one was the most stupid thing I heard in my life (even for Flat Earth) standards. Multiple suns? For sure millions of people should at some point saw more than one sun at once :D
"So obvious at this point" says LEO. "Can be verified by every single person on this Earth" says LEO .. the irony 😂
A sentence so stupid, it wraps around to being right without context.
The irony is that everyone on earth that is able to leave his mothers house basement is able to disprove the claim that our atmosphere can not exist next to the vacuum of space without a container - because it doesn't exist next to the vacuum of space but rather demonstrably drops in pressure until the pressure is so low that we can for all intents and purposes call it a vacuum...
He is infuriating
he could literally hire a total station for a few days, read up on how to use it or employ a professional surveyor to show him how but nah that would be too much of a demonstration - he thinks 'it looks flat to me' is sufficient demonstration. He has to be a fraud.
@@karlgunterwunsch1950 Molecules of air effevtively orbit the earth itself
Always funny that the supposed 'demonstrable realist', who only wants things that can be demonstrated, can't demonstrate how a 24 hour Antarctic sun can work on his idea of Earth ... And of course he's not interested in going to Antarctica, they are no tower cranes there
The fact that he's in damage control mode before the experiment even starts just shows that he is aware of what the result will be and is worried about preserving his grift. He knows what shape the Earth is, but he makes money pretending he doesn't.
"Demonstratable reality... no not that one!!"
What if there are 9 suns? Ha!... I can't even. How do people say stuff like that out loud? LEO made me laugh. What if there is more than one sun? Well, I think that would be pretty easy to prove if the earth was flat. We wouldn't need satellites to look at what China was doing, just a 40 foot ladder and a Nikon (why always Nikon) camera with a good SLR.
@@betta481that’s actually part of a Chinese myth that there were 10 suns that took turns until 1 day they all came out at the same time, causing the hero to have to shoot 9 of em to prevent the earth from being scorched
"I'm not a flat-earther, I don't push maps and models, I simply stand by physical demonstrations, demonstrable reality."
I don't push any maps or models because there aren't any that could possibly coincide with my "demonstrable reality..." I'm actually just a bullshitter without the intellect to critically examine the "demonstrable reality" to which I ascribe.
@@hacksawbob3310 Demonstrably travel in four different directions from the north pole. Then miraculously reach four identical Antarcticas each with identical sets of your three associates.
I doubt he is as dumb as he comes across. In fact i am fairly certain the reason he doesnt push maps or models is because he knows those things can be used against him. I think he is one of the few flerfs thinking long term about his grift.
Eratosthenes used physical, demonstrable, (repeatable) reality to show the globular earth around 2200 years ago... ...and he calculated the circumference within a very close margin of error.
@@MaibuwolfExactly. He refrains from making claims about what shape he actually thinks the earth is because he knows that the flat earth “model” is laughably stupid and easy to disprove. So instead he just says “earf not ball” and tries to leave it at that.
@@MichaelEllisYT this just proves the multiverse, not a round earth.
the other three associates are from different universes and slightly differ in their appearance and memories.
and that proves the mandela effect
;-)
Most of us know the 24 hour Sun will be observed. That will be the demonstrable truth. But LEO will fail to accept it. Just like he fails to accept that a tall ship (one with sailing masts) will disappear hull first and finally the top of the masts, as it moves away from the shore line observation point. Every telescopic lens will see the top of the masts clearly, but will not see the lower part of the ship as it sails beyond the horizon. That's because the curve of the water blocks the view of the lower hull of the ship! Not because the lower part of the ship is beyond magnification. Explain that LEO!
Flat-Eartherism is not about the shape of the Earth, it is only about the drama. It's like a TV show where the writers need to come up with all sorts of twists and conflicts so the audience keeps tuning in.
And just like regular television, Flat Earth is really about money. The grifters will do anything within their power to prevent their cash flow from drying up, which is why they will quickly turn on each other like this.
surely, that's got to be part of it ?
excuse my ignorance (I've virtually ignored these bunch of lunatics for decades) but aren't flearthers also geocentrists ?
Overly contrived and completely unrealistic twists and turns at that.
It's a cheesy soap opera.
Not drama.
Cult.
Its a cult.
The parallells between, flat Earth, US politics, and american wrestling, are easier to see these days. No?
How strange the difference between the two sides. Both visitors were chosen by a democratic vote, yet Dave McKeegan is being widely supported by his community, no matter their own opinions about him, while Jeran is being attacked by almost all on his side. It's almost as if they know something...
Great point! It's almost as if they don't want to know truth...
They are terrified they"re going to be proven wrong... because they already know they are. This expedition is just going to ruin their excuses for pretending, so like always, instead of providing any proof of their -theory- delusion they use the same tactics that creationist do (most of them are creationists anyway) and try to discredit the science and the participants.
They truly are like children desperately trying to still believe in Santa Claus, but children eventually accept the evidence even if it breaks their heart. Flerf, however, are not that emotionally mature.
The FE cult absolutely must discredit Jeran as much as possible. They need to build the case against him well before the demonstration.
It wouldn't matter which flerf went, they'd be getting the same treatment.
@@Firedrake1313 Very true. It's almost as if the Globe Community (whatever that means) are all united in understanding their model and that it works, while occasionally having differences of opinion over certain. precise details, whereas the Flerfers are merely paying lip service to the very idea of having a community. Also, the Globers appear to be mostly civil and respectful to each other, while admittedly occasionally exaggerating in their treatment of the Flerfers, whereas the Flerfers have no trouble in turning on each other. Who would have thought it?
"Demonstrable reality" as a proof is a joke. Do a magic trick: did the apple actually turn into a rabbit? No. Did the lady get sawn in half and put back together? No.
But the events appeared to occur, demonstrably, in reality.
Math might help .
@@emiliajojo5703. Or even just being able to properly understand what you're looking at/investigating.
"I only trust what I see with my eyes. I also only see things from my back porch. That is a fair representation of the entire world."
@@aden538 Even then, the fact they could use a ladder to see the sunset again from their own back porch just exposes their lazyness.
Good analogy.
You can't end the debate! The debate is the whole point, it's not intended to have a resolution! It's like the wars. The flatearth industrial complex needs a forever debate
LEO isn't merely upset, this dude is PANICKING. He KNOWS the truth, he is definitely a liar.
Yep. He knows what the result will be. He's not a believer, he's a money grabber. As someone who's been to Fairbanks Alaska in the summer, I know what he's going to see and it's does not support flat earth. He knows this.
I'd say nearly 100% of the people making videos about it know the truth, otherwise they'd accidentally prove the globe when doing random experiments. It's the people that watch and believe that they belong to the 2% smartest and most elite people in the world because they "figured out" the "truth" that needs to see video evidence from a "flat earth expert" so that they can hopefully break free and stop wasting their money.
If he know's the truth,, why doesn't he admit that the earth is Flat??
@@ramonortiz7462because that wouldn't be the truth. Simple.
@@mitchjohnson9399 The truth? The truth is your model required gamming enthusiasts like Skyman to can his original content and begin uploading umpteen video's to reaffirm your fledgling globe model in attempt to staunch the flow of outright mutiny to the Flat earth phenomenon!! This is why you get so very upset...
Video begins at 2:00
somebody should look into the sponsor block extension
He's rage baiting. The issue isn't flat earth conspiracy theorists, it's that people will read something online that's misleading and suddenly become a professor in the field.
The fact that this isn't against the law to post incorrect information is the problem in society.
@@robertday5632 Yep..social media definitely needs to be more regulated and they should not be allowed to ignore blatantly false content..fake news and misinformation!
Get ready for the "Trust your senses" crowd to insist your senses are lying to you!
It was their final, most important command...
Do you know why your fledgling model admit's "HOWEVER if we are to be HONEST we don't know what GRAVITY is ITSELF in any FUNDAMENTAL WAY"??
@@ramonortiz7462 Just because we don't fully understand something, doesn't mean it's not so. Your argument has a deeply flawed foundation if that's what it rests on.
@@ramonortiz7462 Point remains. What will you argue if (when) a 24 hour sun irrefutably exists? What can you possibly argue if the sun is visible 24 hours a day in one part of earth, and not in any other?
@@melsop54 Do you think that will be enough to explain away a blatant lack of curving earth, curving water and curving gas in bands or layers which are all nonexistent on the earth??
Do you think a 24 hour sun could somehow explain your models utter lack of knowing what gravity is itself in any fundamental way and worse,, why don't they know,,, because gravity itself has never been directly detected or identified ITSELF on the earth?!
Where has an alleged 24 hour sun been hiding for the last ten (10) years whilst the Flat earth phenomenon trounced your model?
The fact that there actually is a “flat Earth community,” is mind blowing.
Not really. Lots of people believe completely bats**t things because of religion. Believe that sperm are little people nevermind early embryos, believe that some deity is surveiling and judging their every choice and move, believe that crackers and wine turn into flesh and blood when you eat them... Some literally want the world to end because they think all the people they disapprove of will suffer more than themselves... And that's just a few Christian examples... Flat Earth seems pretty tame in comparison.
At the end of the day, if you feel like a part of your identity or community is built around an obvious lie, you will hold fast to it no matter how rediculous it may be.
Yeah and they’ve got members all around the globe.
These flerfs are scooping water from the sea in a glass and claim there are no fish in the sea.
Nice. I have to remember that one 👍
Going to Antarctica is NOT an experiment. It's just travel. And going there only during this phenomenon is manipulating any semblance of an experiment in the first place. Why not go in August? Why in December? Is it because the opposition already knows the outcome? Like I said. NOT an experiment, therefore no proof of the shape of the Earth. Just fantasies.
I love that analogy!
Stealing n storing this shit for a later date n comment lol.
And then you ask them to do it again, they accidentally catch a baby jellyfish in the glass, and then they accuse the jellyfish of being a paid holographic mirage.
Did you notice how he no longer talks about the mechanics of the 24-hour sun on a flat earth and how it is a lie?
And everything taking place in the land we weren't supposed to be able to visit? EVER!
No more ice wall, no more Arctic treaty, no more military blockade. They know it's all clickbait. And they know it's over.
This is why the label "flat Earth" is synonymous with stupid.
The issue is that it won't be over, these people would even refuse to believe their own eyes. They will just ignore this whole trip and the conclusions of those that take the trip and continue misleading people and even make money over it. It's basically a cult, if you try real experiments or if you do stuff like that trip to Antarctica you'll just be thrown out of the community.
Well observed 😋
Observable and demonstrable reality right there
Yeah, why wouldn't he address, that Jeran would never ever ever be able to climb the impossibly huge and massively guarded ice wall to even beeing able to watch the 24h day? Curious.
this reminds me of a video i saw once:
some people were doing a test involving a telescope at one side of a large Bay, and a large balloon on a rope on the other side.
prominent flat-earth Mark Sargent happened to be there, and they offered to let him look through the telescope for himself and see the result for himself.
*AND HE REFUSED TO LOOK* !!
need i say more?
That's like the one that the flat earthers did a test with a light and when it failed they said the test that THEY did was flawed 🤣🤣 They're all incorrigible and have some of the worst cognitive dissonance known to man. You could send a group of them to space, have them circle earth and they'll still deny it. They'll probably say there's some illusion and they were flying straight the whole time.
Remember the "Behind the Curve" documentary with Mark Sargent too and him saying "I couldn't leave even if I wanted to". It's his identity now and once they've tasted some level of infamy they have to stick to it, regardless of any argument or evidence seen.
Imagine spending years of your life dedicated to this and just going "Ok I was wrong" and heading back into normal life, giving up the RUclips channels, twitter, "fans" - never going to happen 😂
If they were honest actors then they'd accept what the evidence says, especially when their own experiments show that they're wrong. Instead they'll either refuse to look at the evidence or find some way to excuse it away ahead of time because they know how it'll come up.
They live.
@@WolforNuva That's just what they're doing.
I commented a few months ago that this is exactly what would happen. The flat earth community would turn on Jeran. They did it way back when he conducted his light through the peep-hole experiment.
Level Earth Observer denies he is a flerf yet he denies space and denies we live on a globe. “Don’t try to label me! I’m a DEMONSTRABLE REALIST!” {cue eye roll}
He's such a condescending little pr1ck 😂
Let's also add that he got "attacked" when Flat Earthers got mentioned and how little he's doing comparing to other Flat Earthers.
A person lost to view behind the fence, but claims he is in full view on top of it.
Someone should extract his sorry ass from his mothers house basement and drag him up to the top of Mount Washington or Pikes Peak - (assuming he is in the US) and make him run a half marathon up there. Then he will claim that at that height the vacuum of space already is demonstrably real...
Because he's a grifter that knows if the truth gets out he'll lose the money he makes.
Jeran is going to demolish several misconceptions about Antarctica in one trip.
1: He wasn't turned away by the Military.
2: Anyone can go to Antarctica.
3: The 24hr Sun.
4: There will be no Ice Wall surrounding him as he approaches for landing.
5: His cute little Northern Hemisphere compass won't work correctly.
Add to this the experiments Dave McKeegan and Critical Think will be carrying out.
6: The penguins aren't armed . . .
7: Antarctica isn’t a no fly zone.
His observations will undoubtably show that those things are not true, but he won't demolish any misconceptions, because the misconceptions are not based in fact, they're based in blind adherence to trivially disprovable conspiracies
he will just say he is standing on the ice wall, have to keep those white walkers out somehow.
"You don't know if there's multiple suns." Never knew we've observed two or more suns, so much for 'Demonstrable reality' 🤣
There's a new sun every day! Yay! Wooters!
But I saw Luke Skywalker watching both suns set in that documentary "Star Wars".
Everyone knows to calibrate their moisture vaporators for two suns. It’s right there on page 3 of the handbook commonly sold in the same aisle as power converters.
FFS, he can't even say it let alone observe it!!!
@@roberth721 You can waste time with your friends later!
I used to wonder what it would take to get flat earthers to finally accept the truth... And I used to say that it would take an independently wealthy person to take them up into space and let them see the curvature of the earth themselves. Then this final experiment thing came along and I said to myself ok 24 hour Antarctic sun.. that should do it, right? After watching this video I am completely convinced that nothing will ever make them believe that the Earth is round.
Who would have thought after 9 years of globers trying to end the flat earth nonsense, it's actually the flat earthers themselves who are doing the best job of finishing it 😂😂😂😂 Priceless....
Everyone. They do it all the time.
@@TJ-W you're right, I forgot about Ranty😅😅
@@goldenskeptic6309 .
And Tiger Dan, who tried to make a flat earth map, realised flat earthers were liars and was not afraid to voice his disgust.
well, it's always been them. Every time they do anything they accidentally prove that either they're obviously lying, or that the earth is a globe.
some of the biggest downfalls in history where caused by inside jobs
I love that the very minute he was willing to actually prove this to himself they started trying to kick him out
Flat earthers like LEO say he can verify stuff by himself. And what he means by that is, he is going out the front door, looks left, looks right and then says: "Yep. It's flat."
Sometimes he likes to swing his balls as well.
Not quite. LEO is a crane operator. Every morning when he gets to work he sees the lifting cable hanging stationary below his crane. "But that's impossible on a rotating globe" he cries, therefore not a rotating globe. He thinks he's done science. He thinks he's taken a physical model (a rotating globe), made a prediction (it would be impossible for the lifting cable to hang stationary and _vertical_ under the crane when it is at rest), and made an observation (look, it is hanging stationary and vertical) which falsifies the model.
All of this would be good except for one small problem. Well, not small really, an enormous elephant sized one, and not one but two.
Firstly, he doesn't understand forces and rotational motion, so doesn't know that it is perfectly possible for the hanging cable to remain stationary.
Secondly, his observation is wrong. He has eye-balled the cable and concluded that because it looks vertical then it is vertical. This is exactly equivalent to "it looks flat so it is flat". But it isn't. Plumb lines are deflected by the coriolis force due to the earth's rotation. For a cable of length 100 meters, at 32 degrees latitude, the displacement is about 1.9 cm. It is always to the east.
On the earth, the direction that we call vertical is normally defined locally as the direction that a plumb bob hangs. (A plumb bob is simply a mass hanging from the end of a string, often used in construction to set walls vertically.) It is safe to assume that (neglecting hills, bumps, and such) the local patch of ground (or water) lies perpendicular to vertical, so that on average, the shape of the earth can be related to the verticals at different locations around the globe. Due to the rotation of the earth, local vertical doesn't point back directly to the centre of the earth. It will at the equator and the poles, but at other locations, it points slightly away from the centre. This deflection can be measured. It is so well known that it has been used in the past to measure the shape of the earth.
So LEO's entire demonstrable reality is based on two fundamental errors.
But it gets worse.
If the earth isn't a rotating globe then what is it? A stationary globe? No, because stellar parallax, the phases of Venus, and the retrograde motion of the outer planets all confirm that we are orbiting the sun. But if we are orbiting the sun without rotating what causes day and night? Not possible.
So what about a stationary flat earth with a local sun and moon circling above it? For a finite, circularly symmetric distribution of mass, the centre of gravity would be on the axis of symmetry somewhere below the surface. So now the direction "vertical" would lean progressively outwards as we move further and further away from this axis. Since most flat earthers put the north pole at the centre of their disc, this would mean vertical leans over the further south you went, and for a relatively thin earth by the time you reached Antarctica vertical would be almost horizontal. Not remotely what happens.
So not only has LEO reached a false conclusion about the possibility of a rotating globe earth, he has also successfully highlighted why a flat one is impossible.
@@PeerAdder Dude, the first paragraph would have been enough.
@@Cookie_85 Misinformation is the Hydra of our times: it has lots of poison-spitting heads: no matter how much you cut off, they would keep on regenerating (and multiplying) if you don't burn them all to the roots!
Kudos to @PeerAdder for leaving no ways out to LEO's delusions.
👋🇮🇹🖖
@@PeerAdder Third: LEO is not a crane operator nor does LEO have any job of any sort.
"...the molecular structure of large-standing bodies of water is lying to us."
What does that even mean? I've never seen twelve easily comprehensible words put together in such a way that makes such a completely incomprehensible statement.
The molecular structure of something may have emergent properties when there is a lot of it around. "Wetness" is an emergent property of water, not derived from looking at its chemical (I guess that's what molecular means) structure. I don't understand anything any flat earther believes, but things like this really are confounding. If you pull a water molecule from the bottom of the Marianas trench and a molecule from the surface, they are indistinguishable. Not even mentioning that simply descending in water and seeing the pressure increase as you descend kind of demonstrates gravity, doesn't it? And there is no container so that means the pressure at the surface should be the same at the bottom of the trench if it's all buoyancy right? Nevermind. I don't want to hear the garbledy-gook that the flat earthers will try to spin me.
I have to correct Dan on a big mistake. It's not "The flat earth community". It's "The flat earth cult", plain and simple.
They're literally going to try and explain the 24 hour sun by claiming there's more than one sun...
Their current cope is a sun simulator 😂
@@Pottan23 I'm going to need an explanation of that one!
@@Dark_Jaguar it's a lightsource meant to replicate natural sunlight as closely as possible for labratory use.
Flat earthers think it means we have a fake sun ready for december
Wtf is a sun simulation
oh, i once heard someone say that earth has 12 suns!
Of course flerfs won't go to Antarctica. They would lose all their income if they admitted they lied all this time.
exactly. theyre all panicing now and back tracking
Of course they don't go. Our troops from Happy Out Lands prevent it making them show with fake Sun and dark/light illuminations and angry penguins drone attack.
We us a Emperor of Happy Out Lands appreciate engagement sacriface and duty of our troops in a Slave Core Land common know as Earth. Thank you for your service.
That's actually a big part of it. You have flerf influences who genuinely believe the earth is flat, and while dumb, they do want the truth (rarely) but a good majority know it's round and are scamming idiots which is why they're against this experiment
Going to Antarctica is NOT an experiment. It's just travel. And going there only during this phenomenon is manipulating any semblance of an experiment in the first place. Why not go in August? Why in December? Is it because the opposition already knows the outcome? Like I said. NOT an experiment, therefore no proof of the shape of the Earth. Just fantasies.
RUclips should ban them all.
I never imagined I would hate someone so much just for saying the phrase "demonstrable reality"
Multiple Suns, illusions, green screen projections, the matrix, anything but reality.
research coffee cup caustics bro
@@TruthNerdsyou can’t just vomit out a term and hope it helps your argument. Try this, find anywhere in nature where caustics show a predictable pattern for what we currently observe in the sky. (Sun, stars, moon or planets) Reproduce it if you can in miniature. For the love of god stop regurgitating things you hear on the Internet.
@@TruthNerds WTF is coffee cup caustic?
What are you talking about?
Multiple suns really takes the cake! He can't really believe THAT! (I forgot, it's LEO - he can believe that tosh.)
@@TruthNerds there is no subhuman trash more deplorable than flaturds
LEO doesn't want the grift to end.
Now that's demonstrably true.
I used to have arguments with my oldest brother about Antarctica. He kept citing the same crap that flat earthers do. So then I remembered that his ex girlfriend took a trip down there.... AND HE WAS THERE TOO! He somehow forgot he WENT THERE!
So now I made him question what he believes about Antarctica. Now he's back onto the pyramids being built by aliens.
oh, i've heard worse:
a nutcase who thinks pyramids, and ALL ancient structures, are "free energy devices"!
AND he thinks THAT somehow proves earth flat!
his account name is either "globehoax" or "globeisahoax".
@@ericb3157now, to be fair... Christopher Dunn wrote a really entertaining book called the Giza Power Plant! :P
Turns out it's been the exact opposite this whole time. The flat earth is the shady organization trying to keep the Globe a secret. Even using a Men in Black neuralyzer to make your brother forget what he saw.
@@ericb3157 yeah, probably his name is globeisahoax - there's someone with this name commenting here as well.
@@ericb3157 I have chatted with him. It was interesting. He made statements like 'we know that there is a local sun therefore the solar system doesn't exist'. Then told me not to be lazy and go outside and see the local sun. The more we talked the weaker his replies became and I started to wonder whether he was actually trolling.
I once watched the Folding Ideas video/documentary on Flat Earth, and this feels even more batshit insane than anything I got exposed to then. Nice job highlighting this insanity/cult!
So isn't it up to the flat Earth 'community' to nominate someone they do all trust? Shouldn't be that hard should it? Aren't these all people that really just want to know the 'truth?'
It's almost as if they're just a bunch of grifters that want to hold on to their grift
Have all of the other big flat earthers refused to go and jeran is the only one who stood up and said he would go?
@@pew32 Yes, 24 were listed and so far only Jeran and possibly Witsit (who previosly had said he was going indepedently anyway).
I believe Flat Earth Dave got the most votes but he refused to go and went on some rant about not trusting Will Duffy.
@@clivedavis6859When only 2 out of 24 nominees agree to go on the expedition, it _should_ be better proof to their community than all their "evidence" combined that the earth isn"t flat.
They don't want the truth they want you to accept their truth no matter what you can prove
Some of them are grifters,some of them are demonstrably mentally ill in westchester county some are quite literally Pratts. Unfortunately the internet lets them form support groups 😂
CC
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Don't go picking on CC!
@@keith726able he was certainly a waste of 10cc!
"Demonstrable reality" really sounds like "it's not true because I said so". Which basically says enough about Level Earth Observer.
I wounder if their is anything. that anyone could show him. that proves the earth isn´t flat.
LEO has zero grasp of scale or perspective, he clearly thinks that if something (like his crane) is big to him then its big compared to everything. Demonstrable idiot.
@@exploatores A higher profit margin for a different grift?
@@exploatores Buy him a one-way ticket to space.
LEO has started using the catchphrase "molecular structure of large bodies of water" as a kind of regular chant. That sounds VERY like some of the ritual phrases Nathan Oakley uses at the start of his cult meetings. FE has all the appearance of a cult religion.
Sad part is, there are so many other ways to disprove flat Earth, without going to Antarctica. Hell, the sun stays out longer in Northern U.S. states and Canada in summer
They have excuses for why the sun moves 'faster' and 'slower' with seasons. Thet have no excuse for how the sun could appear to make a full orbit within a single hemisphere and still reach other parts of the world.
Remember when they used to say: South America wasn't real 😂😂😂
Or Australia 😂
Remember for nearly a decade they said that no flights exist in the southern hemisphere?
That was proven wrong, and they just ignored it into non-existence. The same thing will happen here
@timmack2415 They call those flights fake and the passengers paid actors.
That's kinda the issue here. These nutjobs will just jump to other stupid stuff like the 17th letter anon and forget about flat earth like they forgot about their disproven mental gymnastics.
These two flat earthers having a debate sounds like two people arguing in 1000 BC. “ you don’t know what the sun is, or how many suns there are”
Many (most?) people in 1,000BC believed there was one, I think.
@@bsadewitz yea but I could imagine someone questioning it, you wouldn’t question it today because we actually know
@@bsadewitz I propose substituting "all knew" for "many believed".
@@froreyfire Well, I was being conservative because I hardly know everything about everywhere. But yeah. On a related note, the idea that FE belief was prevalent (at least in Europe) at the time of Christopher Columbus or even way earlier is a myth. The contention--when it did exist--was geocentrism vs heliocentrism. Early church fathers knew the world was round. Regarding the old testament, I look at it more like a "no earth book", lol. That is, the authors knew about what they saw when they went to a high elevation and turned around 360 degrees. They didn't have a concept of "the earth" the way we (including most FEers) do.
@@jlol933 It depended upon where one lived, I think. People in contact with mariners, for example, believed the earth was a globe. Similarly, when people lived by the sea, they saw boats VANISH BOTTOM-UP OVER THE HORIZON (they didn't have P9000s I guess lol). To most people, this is pretty reinforcing of globe earth!
LEO (Limited Educational Opportunities) will not admit to anything, including the undisputed fact that he'd love to be spanked by Mr Whiplash for failing to pay attention during his physics, maths, geography and astronomy classes whilst at school for the few days a month he actually attended.
Even you take flerfs in Earth orbit so they can see our planet and how round it is, they will say it doesn't prove anything. These people deserve to be ignored.
When flerfers claim you can’t have air pressure next to a vacuum without solid separation, have they never thought about the air pressure gradient we already know about? It doesn’t take solid separation when you have a gravity well.
Denver, at one mile altitude, has air pressure about 2psi lower than the 14.7psi New York enjoys at sea level.
When you fly somewhere, your bag of crisps is plumper and harder in flight than at ground level because the cabin’s pressure is around 10psi, equivalent of about 10,000 feet. I have, for fun, taken an empty plastic bottle aboard: it hissed when I opened it at altitude, and was crushed during descent. my ears complain on both the way up and down, and I feel for the baby on some flights whose ears are hurting and they don’t know why or what to do about it.
At 5psi, few people can reach the 29,031-foot summit of Everest without oxygen, and at the 39,000-foot cruising level of that aircraft I mentioned earlier, the outside pressure was under 3psi.
Crews on unpressurised high altitude aircraft require pressure suits. Small wonder. The official highest air-breathing non-rocket-powered flight is 123,523 feet (MiG-266M in 1977) at which the air pressure would have dropped to around 0.06psi.
This pressure gradient is why no matter how good your aircraft or balloon, they don’t keep climbing forever - they don’t hit the firmament, they just run out of enough air for lift.
The reported ISS altitude at this very moment is 257 miles - rather higher than thought - I recall it being around 220 miles but I know it varies, eg to avoid drag from atmospheric expansion due to heating - so the ISS is “flying” 11 times higher than the MiG-266M at which air pressure had fallen from 14.7psi to 0.06psi.
Don't tell LEO!
that's cause flerfs don't understand vacuum. they think that vacuum and vacuum cleaner is the same. they can't get that vacuum is just absence of any gas molecule, it does not suck anything anywhere. they still can't understand that in experiment with two volumes(one pressurized and one with vacuum) it's not vacuum that sucks gas, but instead pressure ,that fills vacuum when containers are connected. that's why they think there can't be pressure next to vacuum. and at the same time they agree that high up in the mountains the pressure is lower... they are just so stupid...
Watch a tutorial on free diving, the techniques they teach to protect your ears while diving can be used to eliminate ear pain while flying
@@KaZiK_LT you have to be stupid to be a flerfer. Arrogance helps too.
The fact that the flerth community no longer trusts Jeran (one of the originals) speaks volumes of how they actually feel about the Final Experiment... they know their pizza world is finally cooked!
And it all started about 2 months ago when Jeran did his homework.
- He thought what the sun would do if the earth is flat. -> only visible north-east -> north -> northwest.
- He thought what the sun would do if the earth is a sphere. -> circling around him incl visible in the south.
And if indeed the sun doesn't set, it would destroy all -theories- hypotheses they have.
The comments in his video from other flerfs are hilarious. (basically similar as what LEO is saying here)
Appearantly, people are not allowed to think critically and do their own experiments, if there is a risk of proving themselves (and other flerfs) wrong.
Exactly. Experiments are the devil's work.
If he said demonstrable reality one more time, I was going to scream.
I don’t think he knows what those words mean.
So if he doesn’t believe in the globe but also says he’s not a flat earth believer, then what does he believe the Earth is? Or that s his whole schtick just denying everything but offering no theories of his own?….oh wait, that might mean he has to actually offer something that would be tested and proven wrong. My mistake.
The fact that no two flerfers believe the same exact model should be ample demonstration that their models are all fantasy.
Or, proof that they have no model at all
Same for gods.
it's a demonstrable reality :D
It's not about "believing". It's about knowing. That's what you globers never understood.
Because the only thing they have in common is the belief everybody is stupid and brainwashed except them.
The Final Experiment will not be successful, they will say the people that went are all CGi.
Reminds me of _Avenue 5_ Season 1 Episode 8: Passengers are trapped on a space equivalent of an ocean liner, and start flushing themselves out the airlock, believing the ship, and everything they see is all a hoax and CGI.
After the first person is flushed into space, someone says "it's all CGI," the mob takes it as confirmation of their bias, and cycle after cycle of people jump in the airlock to be vented.
@@pariahzero Can we do that with the flerfers?
All I hear from LEO is, “I don’t know things and I refuse to learn.”
I have Starlink… my dish is on my roof and has no other antennae or connections… it points to the sky and I am getting the fastest internet I’ve ever had…
Can they explain that if satellites do not exist?
No… I thought not.
Flat earthers "are either dumb or lying to you" 🤔 yes.
Ima gunna go with dumb and stupid. There is a small cabal at the left of the i-q chart. That's flat earthers - no sense of scale, no logic, no math.
Dumb is too soft a word and some are trolls doing it for the views as well....
Or both.
Flat Earth ignorance is imploding.
Flat earth ignorance will never implode, it will just intensify and change direction. Think of how stupid their excuses are already getting, and the expedition hasn't even started yet!
It's interesting that in this video LEO makes NO claims whatsoever. At no point does he say what he believes, except the moment when he denies that he is a Flat Earther, which he has done before. And yet he keeps saying that it is obvious to everyone. So he can't be tied down to any model, meaning he can deny everything later. Almost clever. But definitely the methodology of a cult.
Hitchen's razor: that which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Corollary: anyone claiming to be a demonstrable realist who refuses to demonstrate anything is an irritating ignorant idiot and can be dismissed out of hand.
It is exciting to directly observe, in our present time, a group of people going through The Enlightenment.
They don't have a community, just a random bunch of grifters
Unfortunately they convince way too many people that FE is true and these same people vote. It'll be nice to see them go away finally.
And a ton of griftees.
I love the “ can’t have pressure next to a vacuum- so climb a mountain. Check the pressure drop.
It’s there the pressure drop is there. And flerfs have no explanation for it.
The entire natural world falls apart without gravity. How do people stand upright? How do deaf+blind people keep their balance? It goes on and on and on ...
Flerfers inability to understand that is insane. Had a flerf keep telling me that, even if I explained it as if I was talking to a 3rd grader "If you have a gradient that goes white to black gradually, You'll have a lot of grey, but at some point it'll become black" "nuh uh"
Does anyone else see the irony of LEO claiming Jarron doesn't represent the flat earth community, but he himself refuses to admit he's a flat earther?
And I would expect a "demonstrable realist" channel to have, oh, I don't know, DEMONSTRATIONS!
Not just irony, but hypocracy.
No no no, the demonstrations are for him to demand, others to do, and him to either ignore, misrepresent, or point out how it was "done wrong."
@@Fyrefrye Yep, a typically self-important and ignorant Narcissist...
Catch the moment where he dismisses all demonstrations because "you don't know what optical illusions might be present"
@@demo2823 No, I didn't, but that's an extremely dangerous "opinion" for a crane driver to hold...
As a representative for pyramid shaped earth, I approve. The enemies of our enemy are our friends.
Dan, what a coincidence! Something similar happened here in Brazil a few months ago. A Brazilian flat earther who has recorded 3.000 videos traveled to Norway to see the midnight sun. He stopped being a flat earther after this trip! There’s a youtube video by BBC Brazil about it. As for Jeranism it’s not the first time he has second thoughts about his flat Earth belief.
quem ?, o xandao ?
I have a flat earth coworker. I tried to converse with her about it. It is a painful conversation. I offered money for a plane trip from the US to Japan. Her flat earth claims they would have to go from California, east over the US, over the Atlantic, Europe, asia, and then Japan. Not California to Japan.....simple and kind of free. I told her I would pay for the one-way trip.
Huh? What map are you looking at. On the flerf map you basically go straight north to alaska then continue over the edge of the arctic circle and go due south back to japan. On the real great circle flight on the globe you do not go that far north probably up to around the 50 degree latitude. Need to get her to Aukland and then fly to Santiago. Flight is only $1100 if you can get to aukland. But on flerf map you fly near hawaii and mexico. The actual great circle flight is closer to the antarctic circle. Of course ask any flerf and that flight does not exist. Qantas must just list it for no reason.
@@Power5what flat earth map? 😂
“I only stand by simplistic truths, real physical demonstrations here on earth that you can test and verify for ourselves.”
Except if you try to demonstrate it, I’ll declare that you’re lying to us before it even happens while I will refuse to demonstrate it myself, because my “truths” rely heavily upon my being mentally “simplistic”. 🤦🏽
The simplest demonstration is viewing the sun but this clown LEO can't even accept that.
Easy to show a curved surface: observe any tallish object on your horizon from an elevation like a hill, then as you descend.
Simplistic? Challenged would be a better description, and that's being polite.
@@nevillehoward8736 They cry "perspective" without having first clue what the word means.
@@kevinmould6979 Well, from my perspective they're mainly liars and grifters.
Flerfs Then: You can't go to Antarctica anyway, so we can never observe the Globe proving 24 hr sun.
Flerfs Now: Oh Crap!
Going to Antarctica is NOT an experiment. It's just travel. And going there only during this phenomenon is manipulating any semblance of an experiment in the first place. Why not go in August? Why in December? Is it because the opposition already knows the outcome? Like I said. NOT an experiment, therefore no proof of the shape of the Earth. Just fantasies.
remember eric dubay's 200 proofs? greatersapien is still debunking them one by one. he released a video just today where he fails to realize that eric accidentally acknowledges that people have gone to antarctica in the argument he covers.
Treaty says we can’t go.
We can’t ‘freely’ go.
Having to obey the rules means it can’t happen now.
@@Isolder74 The treaty doesn't say we can't go.
@@juanausensi499 No it doesn’t, but they claimed it did.
2 flat earth suns go ‘round the outside, ‘round the outside, ‘round the outside.
Bro, my day has not been going well, until now. That cracked me up so much that I have to say thanks!! 😂😂
@@MattSmith-ty1ze Glad I could help bro.
"If it [the sun] appears to circle a viewer in Antarctica in December (i.e. a demonstrable reality) ... it doesn't change the results of demonstrable reality."
Okaaaay. Back away slowly, keep smiling, don't make eye contact ...
Much like sovereign citizens flat earthers suffer from compound ignorance
More like chronic epistemic egocentrism
Aka, "if something is very obvious to me specifically, then it must be true even if everyone else has proof to the contrary"
@@abderahmanoubaha7957Worse: "If I can't be special when competing with real intellectuals, I will instead make myself special by believing I am one of a handful of carriers of the only true intelligence that makes everyone else the fool."
@@demo2823 your description is more accurate to those who are knowingly and explicitly narcissistic
as in they like to vaunt about how clever they are and how other people are feebleminded
But i think there are those among them who are just very narrow-minded and stubborn
As in if it's obvious to them that something is true, then it's true regardless of whether it makes them look smarter than others or not
I called this on Dave's video, that any flerfer who went on the Final Experiment trip would be called as being paid off. What a shock that the flerf community turns against anyone who goes with.
He hasn't even gone yet and they've already disowned and disavowed him.
The easiest prediction ever 😂
Oh your talkin about the guy who stood firm about FE for years right? He's the ONLY FE guy that agreed to go, right? And then not too long ago he switched up his position, right before this trip? The world of BS would call those "coincidences" because they are stupid or hiding something. there are no coincidences, but if you wanna spin the narrative like your doing and gaslight the one who just got cheated on, good for you. What a shock from you mf's that you would say some ish like that. Know what's funny? "Flerfs" are sooooooooo stupid, and this entire debate is soooooo stupid, and yet look at how many pseudo-sci-fi-shams come out to waste all their time and energy on this stupid topic. ive never seen such a ridiculous notion continue to get sooooooo much attention from those who are obviously sooooo much smarter and know sooooo much more. because i wouldnt waste my time day after day debunking the claims of those who are soooo delusional. that, in itself, speaks volumes, lol. every iota of energy you put into insulting, ridiculing, being condescending to, poking fun at these dasterdly "flerfs" only further gives it life and credibility. you really should thank all the commentors and all the insults they hurl at something they SHOULD BE IGNORING. lol, but you guys are smart, and im sure this comment will be deleted just like my others. thats what cowards always do.
Flat Earther:
⁃ Earth's shape: flat
⁃ Diameter: unknown
⁃ Area: unknown.
⁃ Dome's composition: unknown
⁃ Dome's altitude: unknown
⁃ Proof of domes very existence: None
⁃ Polaris Borealis photos taken from the south hemisphere: none
⁃ Sun's composition: unknown
⁃ Sun's shape: unknown
⁃ Sun's altitude: unknown
⁃ Moon's shape: unknown
⁃ Moon's composition: unknown
⁃ Moon's altitude: unknown
⁃ mechanics: unknown
⁃ Earthquakes mechanics: unknown
⁃ Climate mechanics: unknown
⁃ Precise maps: none
⁃ Midnight sun on the south pole explanation: none
⁃ Explanation of time zones: none
⁃ Explanation of 50% of the earth in sunlight: none
⁃ Explanation of a half-circle sunset: none
⁃ Ocean tides explanation: none
'THEY' are out to control us: 110%🤫
At least Jeran is willing to put forward a testable hypothesis, attend the testing and stick with the results. Puts him a step above a lot of flat earthers I've seen.
This only proves they don't believe this nonsense themselves. They are only doing it to grift.
How long before the Flerfs cry ‘Burn the heretic!’ ?😂😂
I think we already know that we can't convince them with facts.
The Final Experiment won't achieve or change anything, except for giving Dave McKeegan a free week's holiday in Antarctica, which is pretty cool, and I'm quite jealous, but disproving flat earth ? Not a bit.. we already have bucketloads of evidence that the sun doesn't set in the Antarctic summer - it's simply not in dispute, so collecting further evidence won't do anything that the current evidence hasn't already done.
We already know they are mis- and disinformation peddlers. Why are flerfs allowed to sell such content?
Nothing will ever convince many flat earthers.
"Who has been lying for years?" - hm, couldnt be the ones who said going to Antarctica was impossible in the first place. Funny how quickly they stopped pushing that line after Jeren accepted the trip.
"Naaaoooh! Don't get him! Get me! But I can't get there, y'all are out to get me, so I won't go..."
LEO my man, I understand that you're angry that you'll have your belief to get... oooh... _tested_ in your dream trip, but that's not a reason to make a fuss if we give the seat to someone else.
They scared, all of sudden they no longer wanna explore the "realm" 😂
I have to occasionally remind myself that all this is just entertainment (it won't lead anywhere) and that Flat Earth has never been the actual issue here.
Flat Earth belief is a symptom, not the problem.
Symptom what in this case?
I am not framilar with the theories regarding why FE model is resurging.
Loneliness, search of community. Flat earth is a social club.
@@user-or4rk3mc9p that makes sense. Community in a time where we are ever more isolated and disconnected from each other.
@@threecards333 it is symptom of a distrust in the scientific research establishments, where research findings get conveniently altered after a new experiment cause the original results were hurting the business of a mega corporation.
Flat earths cant implode. They shatter like a plate with a moldy, petrified dinner from 4 years ago.
"I'm not a Flat Earther". "Globe Earth is impossible". Give another option then LEO, just one will do. Seriously LEO is not the sharpest tool in the box.
Third option - complete ignorance about everything. Deny that the Earth is flat or any shape at all.
@@roytee3127They have been doing this by denying the map they have been using for years now. So much for that claim about the U.N. Flag being a hidden in plain sight signal about the flat earth. I am used to flerfs moving the goalposts, I am just not used to them moving the goalposts to another planet.
Absolutely correct, Dan. It's impossible to kick a field goal when the goal posts are always moving. Unfortunately there will always be alternative facts for those who can't accept reality.
Eeeehhhmmm, I hate to say this, but you are wrong.
Flerfs don't move goal posts! They move the entire field.
Some move the stadium and parking lot too.
@@Yehan-xt7cw good point, I was zoomed too far in.
What? What exactly is it that “every single person on this Earth can verify”? We can’t get two people to agree on what the “head” or “tail” sides of a coin are.
Get on a cruise ship. Go out to sea. Have a great time. While you are out there, take a good look…human eyes can observe curvature.
Ever since becoming a fan of SciMan and many others following this topic, my appreciation has grown exponentially. Now I find myself staring into the sky, appreciating the physical complexities of our local solar system. I never had any doubts, and I still don’t. However, debunking Fluff-Nuts has made me appreciate it a lot more. There is so much natural beauty in the true physical operations of reality.
i always ask a flat earther one question. first i say that im willing to concede any argument about whether or not it exists, and we just assume that everything they claim is true. then i ask them, given that we know there is some grand conspiracy to hide the true identity, what is the gain? surely they wouldnt waste billions and billions of dollars, maybe even trillions to keep this thing going, unless it provided them with some sort of massive benefit. so what are they gaining? and every single time, they never have an answer, or even a hunch on what they could be gaining.
the best you ever get is they are making us believe in some giant lie, and everything we think is true isnt. which is fine, but there is still nothing to be gained from that. maybe a small ego boost, knowing you can manipulate the masses. but thats hardly worth what it would cost financially to keep this charade up and running.
Not to mention the sheer number of people required to keep this lie going, the level of cooperation needed and the amount of time it has gone on would exceed any human endeavor in history. All for no discernible benefit.
The Final Experiment is already underway, and it's working splendidly. Flerfs are moving the goalposts and turning against each other, too bad what they have said in the past can be verified.