LAURA VANDERVOORT REFLECTS ON DIFFERENCES BETWEEN SMALLVILLE AND SUPERGIRL CAST
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- After playing the role of Supergirl on Smallville, Laura Vandervoort discusses the positives and negatives of her time working on the CW’s Supergirl...
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Laura Vandervoort (Smallville, Handmaid’s Tale) returns to the show this week to explore ideas of following your gut, not comparing yourself to others, and finding happiness through passion. Later in the show we both discuss our thoughts and emotions on the Alison Mack NXIVM situation as the documentary The VOW has been released and sentencing has commenced. We also talk about her troubling situation walking off an HBO show set, the differences in experiences working on Supergirl and Smallville, and how she gets herself to a dark place to prepare for dramatic roles.
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LAURA VANDERVOORT REFLECTS ON DIFFERENCES BETWEEN SMALLVILLE AND SUPERGIRL CAST #insideofyou #smallville
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"My ego would say, there is only one." That is the most honest film + TV industry intro.
I agree with him. No one will ever top Gene Hackman.
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Michael Rosenbaum, in my honest opinion was *thee* greatest live action depiction of Lex Luthor of our time, period (followed closely by John Shea from 'Lois & Clark')
He is the freakin prototype for lex...too bad snyder was too arrogant to use tried and true actors...bc him opposite cavills superman could have greatly aided the dumpster fire that was BvS
@@jdelgado243 Y'know, you're one of only a few commenters who does not regard BvS as some sort of masterpiece (which I don't get personally). If Mr Rosenbaum had indeed reprised his role as Lex, that would certainly would've been a massive bonus (Eisenberg played him exactly how I knew he would, a neurotic personality). However, I will add that Snyder is a massive 'Smallville' fan, and apparently took inspiration when approaching 'Man of Steel', which featured actors who had guest starred in that show, namely Amy Adams, Ian Tracey (troublemaker at the bar) & Alessandro Juliani (team member in the snowy mountains who discover the Kryptonian ship).
@@dannyr2976 i apologize for my misunderstanding this: do you mean that you do not understand my viewpoint of BvS(and honestly the entire DCEU that was tarnished by snyder) or that you do not understand why more people do not see it as a giant shitshow?
In regards to character portrayals rosenbaum was so much better than eisenberg at the role it isnt a fair fight. The best versions of Lex are not mustache twirling villain; but the charismatic genius that is (rightfully) afraid of an individual that has more power than whole nations. That fear drives him to do unhinged things. Eisenberg played lex like his a mix of jim carrey and mark zuckerberg with a splash of elon for flavor.
@@jdelgado243 Poor wording on me, sorry 'bout that! Meant I don't get how others view BvS as some great masterpiece (just don't see that), it's entertaining, even enjoyable in parts for what is it, but overall a giant mess, it tries too hard to cover so much that should've been split into two films, 'Batman vs Superman,' then follow up with 'Dawn of Justice' (the latter would focus on the League characters).
Getting back to BvS, Superman's mom is in trouble, he finds Batman and tries to get him to listen to reason, they battle for a bit, OK. Supes in doused with Kryptonite gas, becomes weakened, fine, at some point during the fight regains his strength, *fight's over* , but instead continues to fight... and loses. And please somebody tell me, when Batman is positioned on top of the crane and fires the tracker onto the back of the truck, how does he make it to the Batmobile so quickly to charge at the bad guys shooting?
@@dannyr2976 no worries. Yea. BvS was such a mess, and the extended edition wasnt much better, but quite a bit longer.
My biggest problem with the plot was that it seemed that lex's master plan required for a lot of accidents to occur to help him along. And how does the worlds smartest detective let himself get manipulated so easily in that way? And the reason they become besties is bc their moms have the same name? Yea...what a great connection. Im not going to get into all of the plot points snyder started and couldnt figure out where to go with it, or how to do the characters justice.
Laura will always be my favorite Supergirl 😍
She is mommy
And mine.
Laura was always the best on Smallville as Supergirl. Her bond with Tom as Clark and Kara was always so lovely. Always loved their moments talking about family/Krypton, Kara's great moments of protecting Clark, and teaching him to fly. Honestly, to me it would have been better for Laura to have been something like Powergirl on Supergirl as it would have been more honorable and a great nod to her time as SG on Smallville. Laura has always been my Supergirl and will continue to be.
@invincible. Yes, absolutely.
That would have been fantastic!! To be honest the writing and depth of Smallville is par to none. It has so many layers and they really took their time while the other shows didn’t.
@@ChristinaTaft Absolutely it would have. Smallville certainly had the most superior writing that was so layered and gave the characters such depth.
We were all robbed of a spin off. But she was forced off the story instead.
I remember Laura coming into a store I used to work at and having to serve her. I was blown away by her beauty, I always thought she was gorgeous since first laying eyes on her in Smallville but in person she gives off this classy elegant aura like you're not worthy of her presence. Like damn Uptown girl kinda vibe.
She is certainly a very humble and kind person, who always makes you feel respected and loved. She never thinks of herself above others. Always treating them as herself and having worth. And yes she is very classy and elegant.
She definitely seems like a class act and kind person.
@@brutalhonesty07 she certainly is. And humble.
And she is someone who I have come to know quite personally. She has always been so kind, friendly and humble to me when I have spoken to her. Who has shown me love and told me that I inspire her with my Cerebral Palsy struggles. As she has been a great source of strngth since dealing with hrs of meningitis. She always makes you feel respected and worthy. She is a great friend.
I must say, there's this endeering quality in Laura... she had it on the set of Smallville and she has it here 😍
I never really cared for the Supergirl arc, but she made it work for me.
It's most certainly the inner strength that Laura has. That primarily comes from what she has dealt with and overcome namely struggles with meningitis. That is what she brought to SV as Supergirl. I always loved the Supergirl arc. Loved the bond she and Clark had, how she taught him about his family/heritage, did a great job protecting him and teaching him to fly several times. She was always my favorite on SV and still is.
"We don't have time for ancient technology!", said Supergirl, on Smallville.
I loved that line, made me laugh.
Laura, you'll ALWAYS be Supergirl to me!!!
Absolutely for me as well.
her Supergirl was way closer to comic-book supergirl than the modern "relatable" SG
she is my forever supergirl
Literally rewatching Smallville right now and Kara just arrived a couple episodes ago and I wondered what Laura's take on this was as well. Thanks for this.
Michael was good in the role of Lex in Smallville. Laura was good as Kara. The show was well cast and performed in general. I had a problem with the writing after a while. Clark not being able to fly for ten seasons when every other Kryptonian picked it up immediately. He started to look like the learning-disabled Kryptonian. Also, Clark's dishonesty as a negative influence on Lex undermined our view of the central character.
I was not a huge fan of the Clark / Lois love story in smallville. They were mainly buddies who found each other hot. Which is fine, and real life sometimes is like that, but its not what you come to expect from two iconic characters whose love is supposed to be unshakeable.
@@andrewj1754 well obviously it isn't unshakeable since he's banging wonder woman now -_-
Lol, you say this like Lex wasn't already dishonest to begin with. The negative influences started from Lex's childhood, he never could be trusted because to him Clark was just another mystery to be solved.
@@ZION73082 I think they got Lois and Clark back to geather now
The show is great but It was so frustrating at times... I still can't get over that we didn't see Clark in full costume. That feels like a slap in the face honestly
With all due respect, my man, imagine if Christopher Reeve had said, "There's only one." The episodes of Smallville in which he appears are some the series's most memorable.
This is an excellent point. Superman is an ongoing legacy, not just one definitive generation or incarnation. I think its great that these shows have shown an active desire to maintain relationships with the actors who preceded the casts.
It's not like Smallville didn't use the movie version of Lana Lang as Clark's mother in the series.
Because of the intent.
Try not to take what Michael said out of context. He first said, "My ego would say...". Which is another way of saying, "There's this part of me that's very proud of what I did and I'm not sure I can overcome that part to participate is someone else's portrayal of the character." There's no shame in admitting this and having enough self-awareness to identify it is a sign of humility. Given the success of Christopher Reeve's version of Superman, it would not surprise me if he felt the same way prior to accepting the role on Smallville.
Reeve was in other circumstances though and those episodes functioned as tributes to him. If he had played a corporate jock, a civilian being helped, or anyone else - and had his full health - I imagine it would not have worked. These kinds of cross over universes and series rarely works and I (think I) hate all of them besides the ones with Christopher Reeve.
I assumed it’d be the opposite; that they’d feel proud to be on a show about one of the characters they played when they were younger.
I would have like for her to elaborate but she wants to work so respect 👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿
The funny part is they did ask him to show up for the Crisis crossovers but he turned them down because they couldn't tell him what his role would be or how large it would be. It was "Well you played Lex before so we want you for that reason but we have no idea what we will do or how much we will pay you"
One of your best qualities Michael is your willingness to be honest about the industry, without putting on any aires and graces for fear of who might hear it. But you were right to say there is only one Lex Luthor.
It's you, by the way, just in case you are wondering.
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despite all the crap that could or did happen she did the show anyway and that just goes to show how much integrity she has as a actress god bless her ;3
Agreed. And more so Integrity she has as a person. Laura has always had a great humbleness within her going all the way back to when she first came on to Smalville as Supergirl herself. She also shows a great strength. Some of the greatest reasons I have always loved her. She is Truly the Real Supergirl.
I really want to know what she did not like guest starring...? But I guess that is for the gossip rags. Even the original Supergirl, Helen Slater, was on the show as well as Wonder Woman, Linda Carter. The Christopher Reeve was on Smallville. This is a time honored tradition...
@@brianng3414 Laura was also interestingly born during the time and in the same year of the original Supergirl film with Helen. They developed quite a bond over Supergirl. Helen even described how moved she was when meeting Laura on the set of Smallville as she had a strong sense in seeing herself in Laura. From back whenshe was younger in her early twenties when she did the film. Quite neat to hear I have to say.
It was a job and she got paid
Even without makeup Laura is gorgeous. I’ve been a fan ever since she was on the SciFi show “V”. Nothing I’ve seen her in has been bad,and her inclusion always makes the show better. Very good actress.❤️❤️❤️
Laura is always gorgeous no matter what. I've been a fanof hers ever since being Smallville as Kara Zor-El/Supergirl. Also enjoyed her in shows like Instant Star, V and Bitten. Her inclusion does always make shows better. Smallville gained so much from her. She is someone who I've come to know quite personally over these last few years. Who has helped me in personal struggles mainly in cerebral palsy and depression. She has always been kind, encouraging and respectful.
Love hearing Michael and Laura discussing fun times on Smallville yay!!!!!!!!!!!!
When he said “there’s only one” I felt that, the reason I would comeback to watch the show
Laura's Supergirl on Smallville, although she wasn't the main character, did more justice to Supergirl than the CW Supergirl show did. (Partially because "Supergirl" was a side-character in her own show, the main character was "tHe MeSsAgE). She's an incredible actress and she really hit a home run with the representation of the character.
Yes Laura did Supergirl so much more justice. She was more faithful to the source material. Laura is an incredible person and an even greater person. Who I have come to know. Always love her more as her real self, rather than the actress she. For how kind, empathetic. Caring and humble she is. Has helped me personally.
The main character was " the message" I died laughing 😂😂😂😂😂😂 so God damn accurate
"The message". I read that in the Critical Drinkers voice 😂
I still remember when Smallville was on, and Tom and Michael did an interview and Tom was asked about acting with Michael, and Tom explained plying a scene with Michel in the mansion and Tom said his line was asking just asking Lex about a sword and Michael’s character then had to go into this diatribe about the sword belonging to Alexander the Great and Michael genuinely thanked Tom for acknowledging the amount of acting Michael had to preform compared to Tom saying Gee Lex, did you get a new sword?
Yes!!!!! You are the only lex. You are what I will always judge lex on. You nail it 10000000000000000%
Michael and Laura will always be the best Lex Luthor and Supergirl to me.
There is really one “Lex Luthor” and that’s Michael Rosebaum!
Gene hackman would like to remind everyone there are two lex luthors...
What was so great about Hackmans Lex? It was very cartoony and it seems like something people only say because he is gene hackman. Michaels lex had much more depth to him. You never really knew what he was thinking or how he rationalized what is good and what is bad. He was infinitely more menacing and his motives were far beyond some non sensical real estate scheme. Nostalgia is great but Hackman's lex could be played by damn near anyone, the same cannot be said for michaels lex. Even lionel is a more interesting character.
@@KILLAKINGD0M Yet hackman excellently encompasses early, and over the top, lex from the comics...the ones where lex luthor was bad simply because he lost his hair when superman landed. Sometimes it's not just gene hackman... sometimes it's the happiness over a movie portrayal that echoes classic comics. And I for one don't mind appreciating that
John Shea and Clancy Brown have entered the chat.
"My ego would say, there is only one." well I also think that you did the best Lex on live television so... I totally agree :D
Actually I think you’d make a better guest star on The Flash and I bet NO ONE would get it. Micheal I really think you should audition for a villain on The Flash 👍🏻
He didn't play Barry though, he played Wally. And, trust me, people would get it, since the other Lex Luthor, Clancy Brown, was a reoccuring character, General Wade.
Michael considers himself Lex.
We consider him our TRUE Flash.
Laura was the most gorgeous Supergirl and could act
Definitely a genetic Powerball winner.
I think if Michael had come to the Arrowverse it would have been great as a character completely different to Lex and maybe more like how he was in real life
You Are the ONLY ONE, Michael.
OK, wow, Laura spoke volumes about the Supergirl cast and crew, obviously she was extremely uncomfortable but still tried to accentuate a positive. She was in Supergirl after CW ruined it thoroughly.
well there's a 99% chance that the guy they hire will not be better Lex than Michael...... so I'm kinda with him on this one :D:D
After hearing some interviews with her and other guest stars on Supergirl, I wonder if Melissa Benoist was difficult to work with.
Michael did more of the talking here, guessing for some reason Laura didn't want to.
that's because in the industry today you kiss ass of new actors/actress or you become sexist/racist/anti-gay/anti-woke outsider and don't get picked for rolls so sad just look what happened to Gina Carano on Mandalorian -_-
@@ZION73082 Nice people get hired. Bad people get fired. As they should. If Carano was a nice person she would still be on The Mandalorian. But she isn't a nice person and therefore she isn't on The Mandalorian. Kissing ass has nothing to do with it.
@@jackdubz4247 - that's a lame excuse. If you followed Gina on social media, you'd see she IS a nice person.
And she WILL be back on Mandalorian. They already know they fucked up when they let Kennedy fire her because she didn't have the "right political views" they expect from everyone.
@@jackdubz4247 you honestly can’t be that daft
@@jackdubz4247 if you knew absolutely anything at all about Hollywood, "kissing ass" is ALL you need to get many parts. In fact, that's the entire reason there was a Supergirl show with Melissa anyway. She was on her knees more than once for Greg Berlanti and Ali Adler
What the f*ck happened on set for her to respond like she did? She looks traumatized.
Yeah,,,,, there was hesitation there.....
ya there was some bulllshit going on for sure
Yeah she was holding a lot back. I'm guessing there is a reason she didn't come back after season 1 or for Crisis
She is a good but (sorry) not great actress who was/is one of the most beautiful women of all time. You’ve got to figure that every creeper in Hollywood took their shot at getting in her pants in whatever way possible.
@@jimhsfbay how in the hell did you get that idea??? 😂😂😂
Did he ask Tom the same question? Being asked back to play his Clark during Crisis? Or Brandon having to work with Tyler AND put the suit on again for Crisis? What about John Shipp? You could tell she thought it was rude to ask. It was already a thing for Arrowverse to ask previous actors back. I think Justin is only real stand out for Arrow. Maybe Kyle G for Flash?
I think you're reading too far into it; she didn't seem to think it was rude, it just was a subject she didn't want to talk about. We've already heard how Tom, Brandon, and John feel about playing a supporting role or cameo on a show with a character they've played before. Tom wasn't even in the same scene as one of the Supermen... what is there to talk about? Brandon's spoken numerous times on it being an honor to redon the suit. And John is a reoccuring character, obviously he's fine with it, he played Flash 90 and plays Flash 3 (Jay Garrick).
It was a less than two-minute topic, it didn't faze her much afterwards, just saying.
Laura is the only super girl best of the best.
like DAAAMN Laura is so beautiful
You were hands down the number one, best ever depiction of Lex Luthor in a DC tv series and in general including the movies I'd say you'd be only bested by Gene Hackman from the original superman movies but after him , you're the best.
Your ego would be right. You are the only Lex Luthor.
To all people stating how gorgeous Laura is:
We know mates. We have eyes too. There is often little use in stating the obvious. But then again, I found myself stating the very same obvious for Kristin Kreuk in her episode of the podcast, so I guess sometimes you just need to say it.
But Laura has this supermodel look so...
Loved her as supergirl
Rosenbaum, I gotta say I honestly think you are the best Lex Luthor. You gave a great performance in Smallville. And honestly, I think Laura did a better Supergirl. To me, the Arrowverse was good with its earlier seasons, then everything became political and Identity political. They stopped going for entertainment and became preachy. Smallville never did that, which is why I saw it as the superior universe.
Most certainly Laura was a better Supergirl. And due to the lack of politics is part of the reason Smallville was the better universe.
Laura seems like she would make a great mom.
She certainly does. Especially how great she does with her nephew and niece and sister Sarah's kids Asher and Finley.
Her version of Supergirl was more accurate than CW's at least in terms of personality at most in terms be liveability
Yes Laura's Version of Kara Zor-el/Supergirl was more accurate. Much more stronger, confident, fierce, headstrong and not afraid to let loose with her powers.
There is only one Lex!!! Michael's portrayal of the character was the best. Sure Gene Hackman and Kevin Spacey and some of the others did great but MB's portrayal of Lex won't be topped imo. Maybe Michael had an advantage in that he got more screen time and was able to delve into his backstory but he portrayed so many of Lex's idiosyncrasies: his superiority complex, his smugness, his ego, his ability to scheme, plot and manipulate others. The portrayal of Lex's father and the impact of a hyper critical (and sometimes absent) father figure was also a stroke of genius.
Micheal is the bestest Lex ever. He was my mom 's most fave, she bragged on him. Our family watched it
Maybe a show called the leauge of Luthors. Have a multiverse of Lex n bring them all back
Just got to say that both Reeves and Cain guest stared on Smallville...
Wasnt the lady from the supergirl movie in the cw show too? Theyve always done that though. Chris reeves and morgot kidder were in Smallville and the 90s Barry Allen and Tina Mcgee as well as Mark Hamils trickster were brought back to the cw flash. I personally think its cool. Lenny Luthor from superman 4 played lex in that crisis crossover. But if Michael Rosenbaum comes back, he needs to be lex no question. He was great as lex.
Imagine if they asked him for the Flash xD
SHE IS MY SUPERGIRL!!!
;3
Yes, Laura is my Supergirl as well. A great personal inspiration she is.
My favorite Lex Luthor hands down.
I agree with Michael, there is only one Lex, and that's him.
Laura's a class act. She obviously could have named names. But didn't. To be fair we never know what people might be going through. But it's best to try to treat people the way you want them to treat you.
Exactly she showed much respect, humbleness, honor and humility. Something she always does so well.
Is she tho?? I mean she literally is the reason why Smallville fans are now attacking and trash talking Melissa. So I don’t think she is a class act. She should’ve opened her damn mouth
@@pauresatogbossi9503 Paurea show me when Laura told any fan to attack or trash anyone. That's on the people who decided to be clowns on the internet. People need to realize that sets are workplaces. Those come with drama. Laura spoke of an experience. People inferred that she was talking about Melissa. Maybe she was. You're free to dislike Laura all you want. But that doesn't eliminate her experience.
@@willmorris6946 Exactly, well said.
@@nickhydier1201 Thanks Nick. Hope you're having a good day.
Laura Vandervoort should have gotten her own Smallville spinoff series Supergirl, no offense to Melissa Benoist, she did an awesome job as Supergirl, but it would of made more sense if Laura Vandervoort had got to play Supergirl, that way you could of had Tom Welling make a crossover appearance in the later seasons as Superman, Michael Rosenbaum appear as the evil Lex Luthor.
Laura Vandervoort was a cool #Supergirl on #Smallville .
If the writers for Supergirl weren't so terrible, they'd have written Laura in to play as Power Girl rather than a gender bent Brainiac. Playing as Power Girl would also have been a great nod to her role on Smallville as Supergirl. This was such a missed opportunity!
Exactly. It would have been a great nod to her role as Supergirl in Smallville. Was such a missed opportunity.
I have to say, Laura does look better without the beard. The reality is, beards just don't suit everyone.
She is always gorgeous.
Since when did Laura grow a beard?
Michael! Aside from Gene Hackman, you are the BEST Lex Luthor I've ever seen. Nothing against Jon Cryer but I see him and I see Duckie from Pretty in Pink. It's just funny that he's Lex Luthor. Also, because I don't watch Supergirl. 🤷♂️
Jon has done a fantastic job with his portrayal of Lex. People can criticize the writing, and that's fine, but he makes the words true.
I mainly see him as Alan from Two and a Half men. I want him to shave the beard off.
I think there is a fair debate to be had about the best portrayal of Lex Luthor. Lots of good answers. However, there is only one answer for the worst. Jesse Eisenberg was absolute gorilla shit as Lex. They could've drawn eyes on a bucket and hung it on a propped up mop, and it would've been a vastly superior Lex Luthor than that fucking goof.
@@aliwantizu The writing is the reason why I don't watch Supergirl. Which is why I can't say if Jon is good or bad as Lex, IMO. If you say he's fantastic, cool!
Lets not forget he played Lex's nephew in Superman 4.
Thanks cause you're the only lex in any universe
I think fans pick up on if a show or movie seems a little cold and maybe too corporate behind the scenes. A couple examples would be Supergirl and the new Star Wars trilogy were the actors seemed like they hated it. You can feel the passion and love for the property from Smallville and the original Star wars trilogy.
Sir Alec Guiness had no love for Star Wars and only did it for the money.
@@jackdubz4247 True but He was a pro and didn't have a large amount of screen time overall.
@@BishopWalters12 I mean, that just tell us you can't tell. It was very clear that Alec and Harrison didn't want to be on set for Star Wars, Harrison loathed the Star Wars fandom but loved the money. I mean... for fuck's sake, the most well know female character in Star Wars was in a chain bikini, and Fisher still said she regretted saying yes to it until her death, making a joke about it to the female leads for the new trilogy. Natalie Portman was put in a crop top for no reason in Attack of the Clones, probably one of the reasons she's hard to work with now.
Compare this to Mark who wasn't the best actor back then, probably smaller paychecks than Guiness and Ford due to how much screentime he has compared to them. He's so much a mega fan of the fandom, he had to tell himself that the new trilogy is just an alternate timeline where Luke dies like a puss.
MR was the best lex luthor so he's right to have that initial gut feeling. If it was a really great and important character though it would be ok .
He needs to play Lex Luthor again.
Why didn't either of you get involved with the Arrowverse Crisis on Infinite Earth Crossover shows?
Michael Rosenbaum was called, but the way and the moment it was done rubbed him the wrong way. The offer had no clear payment or script and was urgent in a time he was visiting a sick relative, so he declined it.
Micheal turned them down because they wanted him solely for the fact he played Lex Luthor but they had no idea what they wanted to do with him or even if he would play Lex or what they would pay him. They basically went "Well we will sign you up for an appearance and will figure it out later"
And given Laura's reaction here. Something happened on set when she play Indigo that she doesn't want to say and likely turned them down or they may have not offered her a role.
You’re god damn right there is only one Lex Luthor!
how awesome would be if michael's lex met arrowverse lex and he was like you are thinking too small arrow lex
Micheal there are a big difference, the participation of Laura in smallville was very short (sadly), but you were the friend and the villain the character more important together with clark
the only one and true Lex from the shows.
Sure. It was Gene Hackman.
I love Laura, and I love Michael but I feel like she absolutely hates doing these podcasts.
I always love Laura.
Its the same thought as Reeves or Margot doing Smallville.
Christopher Reeves was in Smallville
Not really. When Reeves and Margot were on Smallville, those were big events! It was almost as if to legitimize and bless Smallville as part of the Superman universe and it was treated as such. This is not the same thing. I think what they are implying here is that Laura could have played Supergirl herself through a spin-off after SV. I’m sure she could have even audition for the role but obviously didn’t get it. On top of that, it seems like she wasn’t treated the best when she guest starred on the show.
True
@@JessimusPrime That's interest to hear. Though I don't know about it.
But the supergirl show was years after Smallville..wouldn't surprise me if it had been a decade.
@@DSan-kl2yc That’s only because that’s the project that took off. How many project die before a pilot, or die after a pilot? Case in point: Aquaman and Wonder Woman. Both had pilots after Smallville and died right after. They tried to do the DC universe on TV but that never went anywhere, Apart from when they started to do crossovers. At that time, Marvel hadn’t started yet so maybe they thought those were good to try but there wasn’t much faith in the shows and maybe the script and quality wasn’t tight enough. But once Marvel started, More DC shows started to be created. At one point, almost every day of the week had a DC show on, Arrow, the Flash, Supergirl and Constantine. The only spin-off show that survived and was successful after SV was Arrow.
I would say the 'guys have it easier' in terms of being judged on looks has become more rhetoric with a number of TV shows and movies with young men depicting teenage boys looking buff, we don't tend to see women doing needless shirtless scenes either.
I some ways yes, in other ways no. About the shirtless scenes, lots of women get no nudity clauses in their contracts with strict rules on skin, men don't cause there less likely to have negative career consequises from it. I think Michael meant if a guy goes to an adition not in peak condition, they will be given the oppurtunity to get in shape for the role, women not so much.(Just reffering to thin not muscle build)
@@OmegaII I do get that, but the idea of 'female beauty' has a lot to do with it, and a lot to answer for. Since we don't have a male equivalent (just men that fit that description like Chris Hemsworth or Henry Cavill, hell even Tom Welling!) then women are gonna be judged differently on their appearance relative to men. I've argued this so many times in comment sections (sometimes with women) who seem to want that association with women with and beauty, so if there is a 'beauty standard' (to which I wholeheartedly disagree with) then we cannot be shocked by the careers of certain women in Hollywood.
I wish girls did go barechest like boys on regular TV.
@@KentPetersonmoney That'll be for saved for HBO, Showtime and the like, lol!
@@artjagman1 One day it won't. Probably when the elders that don't watch those shows but get a hard-on for canceling it, die off.
"Yep" sounds like 'NOPE!' And "Some of them" sounds like 'Most of them were #@%*S'
ohhhh she was on supergirl when Andrew Kreisberg was still on the show running shit... Oh boy.
yeah that's what i'm thinking this is about.
Michael Rosenbaum is the only real lex Luthor! And Laura Vandervoort is the one true Supergirl!
Yes absolutely. Rosey is the best Lex. And Laura certainly is the Real and True Supergirl. Was meant to be.
@@nickhydier1201 yes.
I liked her version much better than the current one. Of course I think the writing is a huge factor. Imo Smallville had much better writing. Also Michael Rosenbaum was and still is the best Lex Luthor period.
Yes, Laura's Kara/Supergirl is still my favorite. And the writing did play a hand in that. Also, that her Supergirl had a more tougher/stronger side. Had much more confidence and wasn't afraid to unleash her powers or use them fully.
Aww what a bummer. As a fan of both shows and Melissa b during her coming out about her da sulituation... what a bummer that it wasn't a good experience
If it helps. When I think of lex I think of you. You did great as lex.
She made a guest appearance in Frankie Drake.
I've heard rumors that Melissa isn't very nice. I hope it's not true but I'm starting to think it might be.
Just to feed the rumor, because why not, her ex-husband did throw something at her to cause the eye bulge. In reality, I think she's fine and people are just making shit up to feel better about themselves.
@@motodog242 He threw a cell phone point blank at her head, and she had to go to the ER. I think people like to hate on her because she dared to leave him, tbqh. Because she's given no other impression of being rude so far as I've either seen or heard other than having the spirit to walk away and leave a monster rather than suffer in silence.
so from that other clip where she says a female lead was a bitch and this...now we know
Honestly always wanted Michael Rosenbaum to show up as a version of the Flash.
But, seeing the three versions of Supergirl during the Crisis would have been cool.
exactly
Yes, it would have.
No, Michael, there are two Lex Luthors: Gene Hackman and you.
Rewatched Indigo vs Kara the first scene and it CLEAR that Erica Benoist wasn't actually in the scene. That has to be who she's talking about in the other clip when she said there was a lead actress that wasn't professional.
Yes, I've watched that scene recently myself and it has become clear Melissa wasn't in the full scene. I always suspected that was who Laura was referring too. Who refused to work with her and had her stunt double do her scenes for her.
@@nickhydier1201 Yeah...the only thing, is Laura kinda seems like the type of female that takes everything personally. I wasn't there and I don't know Laura, it's just that sometimes she kinda gives the air of a person that has a victims mentality. Was Erica being a B or just tired and done for the day. Well likely never know.
@@sonsolar That is actually not true at all. Laura has always been humble for the most part when coming on to a show. Again, case in point when she first came on Smallville as Supergirl herself. She's also maintained a kind/polite demeanor as well. This coming from someone who has gotten to know her pretty well and personally over the years.
@@nickhydier1201 That's great to hear.
@@sonsolar Thank You. It's happened through several aspects. Interactions through Twitter/Instagram, meetings/live chats at conventions, cameo videos. She has become also a great inspiration/source of strength to me in struggles with cerebral palsy. With her dealing with very similar ones in meningitis over the years. Why she is Truly Supergirl to me personally.
Michael, is not only your ego telling you: "is only one Lex Luthor..." a zillon fans completes: "- and is Michael Rosenbaum, F'ng A".
I think Rosenbaum should do a vilan in the arrow verse
The subtle sexual innuendo about shaving her beard says Laura is also a very clever and humorous besides being gorgeous. As a fellow Canuck I am proud of her!
Helen Slater plays Supergirl's mother, Dean Cain her father, Brandon Routh played Atom AND Superman - get over yourselves.
Most versions of Lex are more comedy characters. Michaels is by far my favorite.
There IS only one Lex Luthor. [but why if it's Gene Hackman?]
News flash - there are nice co-workers and not-so-nice co-workers in the television and film industry, just like in any other workplace.
Simply shocking (not).
Plus, didn't realize Rosenbaum was so cocky until this clip, dude drank a bit too much of his own cool aid.
Granted, he was good as Luther but it's not like he reinvented the wheel. Batman was interpreted by countless actors already, and there is no consensus on who was the best. There is no reason why this won't happen to the Luther character in the future.
I remember one episode of Smallville that was pretty dumb. Supergirl breaks out of jail, and she uses her powers to do so. It's caught on security cameras. Instead of running for her life across the U.S., she gets a job at the local coffee shop the very next day. And cops go there for coffee too.
Definitely not a smallville episode lol
Something tells me, it couldn’t have been that great on set, cause she doesn’t seem thrilled that it was brought up lol.
And we all know what Laura meant when she shaves her beard, right?
I'd marry that woman 😍
So would I.
Okay I agree Laura played her role as Supergirl quite well on Smallville. But that doesn't mean the 2015-2021 Supergirl is pathetic. I watched it completely, twice or probably thrice. And I love the show as much as I love Smallville. It's awful that people in the comments are hating on Melissa Benoist all of a sudden just because they like Laura better. Personally speaking, I didn't like Laura much on Smallville. Her Supergirl somehow looked very pretentious and restricting, whereas with Melissa we got to see a human and fun side of Supergirl which was a blessing
Smallville supergirl will always be the better show in every way. The show was amazing and Laura was a great choice to play the character. The Supergirl show is just too corny, too much bad acting and bad writing
Laura certainly was. She always showed great strength and confidence. Did a great job protecting Clark and teaching him. She is always my Supergirl. She was meant to be Supergirl.
Smallville defenitely had the better writing. But people like Melissa Benoist, Chyler Leigh and David Harewood are defenitely better actors!
there is only one lex luthor.
...in live action.
I like Rosenbaum but I'm sick of people saying things are easier for guys. No, Michael, they're easier for you. Have you seen how many fat dudes are out there? 🤤
Right? He's talking like 90% of the men working in superheroes stuff doesn't have to be fit, whether they're the main character or not.
To me the best Lex was Jean Hackman followed by only by Michael Rosenbaum. I loved Hackman because he could be funny and terrifying at the same time and that is something very few actors can accomplish. John Shea and Kevin Spacey had a little of the too but they came across as either sleezy or unlikable although they were good villains I just never felt like wanted to see things from their perspective. Michael portrayal of Lex was warn and was just what the show needed to build the friendship between these two Iconic characters. The show made you want Clark to tell Lex the truth every time these were on screen together. Michael made you believe that Lex was fighting his inner self and really wanted to be a hero. He always gave a solid performance and I would love to see him play the part as a more seasoned Lex.
GENE Hackman
Ah yes, Jean Grey Hackman, my all time favorite psychic omega level actor.