Beyond Conspiracy - The Terrifying Truth Of Corporate Power

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @lindagbadamosi1622
    @lindagbadamosi1622 4 года назад +119

    So many of Russell's interviews are ringing so many loud bells in 2020. Fascinating conversation.

    • @karebushmarebu233
      @karebushmarebu233 3 года назад +3

      and every single other year for millennia, the stuff has been going on for a long long lonnnng time in one form or another

  • @emmalikesflowers
    @emmalikesflowers 6 лет назад +790

    "Essentially governments have become the civil servants of corporations". Nailed it.

    • @JenniferGonzalez-gx5qv
      @JenniferGonzalez-gx5qv 5 лет назад +10

      kiloscott same thing no?

    • @christineadams2256
      @christineadams2256 5 лет назад +28

      THEY WORK TOGETHER TO SET THIS CRAP UP, DON'T LET YOUR GOVERNMENT OFF THE HOOK.

    • @runtochrist1975
      @runtochrist1975 5 лет назад +19

      Corporations have become civil servants to the Illuminati.

    • @chazbayley
      @chazbayley 5 лет назад +21

      Money has always controlled governments

    • @djkiddrocks1241
      @djkiddrocks1241 5 лет назад +8

      @@runtochrist1975
      Bingo!

  • @morgueaunne6552
    @morgueaunne6552 5 лет назад +405

    "Government is the entertainment division of the Military/Industrial Complex." Frank Zappa

    • @rocker4577
      @rocker4577 5 лет назад +9

      Exceptional man

    • @airevolt1
      @airevolt1 5 лет назад +2

      Lol

    • @halasimov1362
      @halasimov1362 5 лет назад +6

      100% The military industrial complex is oligarchy and our only defence is not to give more power to the goverment and thus fewer oligarchs. But to protect liberty so we can compete and the market can correct!

    • @tresguerros
      @tresguerros 5 лет назад +8

      He should know. Check out Dave McGowan's book "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon"

    • @dsyy90210
      @dsyy90210 5 лет назад +13

      @@halasimov1362 the market will never protect the common person

  • @malcolmnicoll1165
    @malcolmnicoll1165 3 года назад +133

    "Unlimited power in the hands of a few always leads to cruelty."
    -Alexander Solzhenitsyn

    • @MichaelWaisJr
      @MichaelWaisJr 3 года назад +5

      Like Jeff Bezos!! He made bank but now he’s shitting on all his entry-level employees instead of paying a dime for their well-being!!

    • @martinarreguy7789
      @martinarreguy7789 3 года назад +3

      The failure with the state and government, is that all the leaders in the positions of real power of the state are on the corporate payroll

    • @martinarreguy7789
      @martinarreguy7789 3 года назад +1

      Indeed

    • @scotttheo3711
      @scotttheo3711 3 года назад

      You know who controls you by who you CANT criticize or talk about. Yes Jeff Bezos but their is a FAR WORSE cabal that is destroying you and making your life worse even if you don’t work for Amazon

  • @paultowmy1877
    @paultowmy1877 5 лет назад +161

    The mind boggles - why haven't we done what Iceland did so well & relatively easily (without brutal revolution) and sack the government & bankers/"short term profteers/bankers" en masse

    • @DAN_ZEMAN
      @DAN_ZEMAN 5 лет назад +17

      Paul Towmy
      Our intelligence establishment is too sophisticated to let that happen short of violent revolution.

    • @Empowerman
      @Empowerman 5 лет назад +7

      @@DAN_ZEMAN Agreed!!! Though "sophisticated" was too generous a word, imho, though I get where you're coming from. Yes, in one sense, sophisticated, in another, barbaric. ha/Not

    • @DAN_ZEMAN
      @DAN_ZEMAN 5 лет назад +5

      Johnny LeRose
      Yes.
      They’re in on it 100%.
      Enforcement arm of the establishment - when the police just won’t do (often they’re too busy catching actual criminals).

    • @jasonlambert5552
      @jasonlambert5552 5 лет назад +16

      "We're rolling the Guillotine in front of Capitol Hill on Thursday!" collective sigh "Tssss, Thursdays no good, I got a thing, maybe after 5. No, no that's no good my show is on..it's final episode!!"

    • @jennyadee913
      @jennyadee913 5 лет назад

      We must.

  • @halbertking2683
    @halbertking2683 7 лет назад +472

    Conspiracy theory is rapidly becoming code for unspeakable truth. Gore Vidal

    • @EvenStarLoveAnanda
      @EvenStarLoveAnanda 5 лет назад +16

      It's not becoming, it's always been that, but you were asleep.

    • @humanbeing_
      @humanbeing_ 5 лет назад +28

      ​@@EvenStarLoveAnanda Hal wasn't saying that himself; if you read the comment again, you'll see he paraphrased a Gore Vidal quote. However, the actual quote, taken from one of Gore Vidal's books published in 2003, is, verbatim "Apparently, 'conspiracy stuff' is now shorthand for unspeakable truth." The book info: *Gore Vidal (2003). “Dreaming War: Blood for Oil and the Cheney-Bush Junta”, p.50, CLAIRVIEW BOOKS*
      I don't normally go around defending random people, especially not in the RUclips comment section, but aside from that, I believe your comment is ill-informed.... It absolutely has NOT always been so. If you take 30 seconds to do a web search, and read, you'll find the term initially appears in journals as early as April 1870, specifically 'The Journal of Mental Science, Volume 16.' The usage remained fairly consistent until around 1899, as during that year (1899) "It shifts from simple incidental use in language to referring to a specific thing. From "that theory which has a conspiracy" to "the theory that we call conspiracy theory"", and that it seemed to "move towards its current use with an implied "far-fetched" prepended."
      It's also popularly (and incorrectly believed by many; not saying you) to be started by the CIA in 1967. While there may be some truth to the belief that "the phrase “conspiracy theory” was popularized in the 1960s by the CIA to discredit those who dared to question the Warren Commission" is accurate, the CIA certainly did not create the term.
      In any case, whether you're 'woke' or not, the meaning of the term has variably changed over the decades, and the commonness has increased exponentially in the most recent 2 decades. I would argue, that the true meaning of the term/phrase is largely dependent on who is speaking about it. Those of (us) who believe wholeheartedly that OF COURSE the government and private conglomerates hide information, technology, history & more from the public, and those who use the term as a dismissive pejorative placeholder to discredit anyone who disagrees with them or gets in their way.

    • @rocker4577
      @rocker4577 5 лет назад +11

      That phrase is just a way by the ignorant to dismiss uncomfortable truths. I have no time for such people.

    • @EvenStarLoveAnanda
      @EvenStarLoveAnanda 5 лет назад +3

      @@rocker4577 What phrase are you referring to? You have made an ambiguous incomplete sentence. Would it kill you to repeat the phrase, just to be clear?

    • @thearmyofthegods6276
      @thearmyofthegods6276 5 лет назад +4

      Get Off ur high horse (even star)

  • @dimatadore
    @dimatadore 7 лет назад +587

    This is SO interesting. I want to share with everyone but I'm surrounded by people that don't want to do anything, let alone care to hear it.

    • @eddiehunter5549
      @eddiehunter5549 7 лет назад +27

      The Matadore I know!It is so frustrating because you have to spend so much time with these people and it’s quite sad that they don’t care and are just ticking along,because a lot of them are good people but just into deep.

    • @eddiehunter5549
      @eddiehunter5549 7 лет назад +4

      The Matadore do you live in England then?

    • @eddiehunter5549
      @eddiehunter5549 7 лет назад +22

      James Connolly 1916 yes they don’t care you learn over the years to not even engage in a conversation with them as it is like talking to a government/media clone haha
      Russel brand needs to create some kind of group where people who see what’s really going on can get together and relate and start some kind of movement!

    • @mrtambourineman6107
      @mrtambourineman6107 7 лет назад +5

      sounds like you need to take action my friend and stop being such a bumbaclot!

    • @timlazenby9605
      @timlazenby9605 7 лет назад +13

      Guess I'm lucky. Two guys I live with in our flat share similar points of view. We don't agree on everything but the general consensus is its all a bit fucked.

  • @alexcb01
    @alexcb01 7 лет назад +163

    Medicating people to endure a life where they feel they have to stay on the hamster wheel to survive is no life. Everything is connected and the economic paradigm needs to change radically. Prof Cary Cooper is another excellent source of information.

    • @bonchidude
      @bonchidude 5 лет назад +3

      Alex, this is why my hamster ran around the room free. Surely, I had to be very VERY CAREFUL where I went in the room. She was trained to use the little toilet inside the cage. Her former cage was the bathroom. But truth be told the hamster was able to g under the door and go throughout the house. I found this out later.

    • @bonchidude
      @bonchidude 5 лет назад +2

      Alex, this is why my hamster ran around the room free. Surely, I had to be very VERY CAREFUL where I went in the room. She was trained to use the little toilet inside the cage. Her former cage was the bathroom. But truth be told the hamster was able to g under the door and go throughout the house. I found this out later.

    • @WestWind
      @WestWind 5 лет назад +2

      in the economic department think Basic Income to lay a floor of civility that liberates people and balances an otherwise barbaric globalizing society.
      in the political department find a representative formula for democracy better than the party-system (like sortition or direct democracy)
      in general it is essential to organize and plan the alternatives like a pro, without relying on government.

    • @mhikl4484
      @mhikl4484 5 лет назад +3

      Immediacy is the problem, Alex.
      Born in the fifties, we didn't have the spoils that have corrupted our world. I paid my own university costs, worked late spring and summers, took a year off working to save money, found cheap bedroom suites during the school and work year. I spent as little as possible; my focus was my future.
      Once working (a teacher) I put every penny possible to pay off my university debts. After debts were payed-off (4 years and a bit) I continued to save as much as possible; to spend as little as I could.... (University was not the expense then, as it is now! Criminal!)
      I married, but we had no children and then went our own ways. I continued to live the simple life (renting a room rather than the cost, expenses and other problems of owning, then) retiring age 60. Still I lived frugally waiting until all pensions came, age 65, but enjoying the time with no responsibilities, meditating on life, agenda-free getting used to total freedom from the rat-race.
      I am 68 so now I travel, continue to live in my house-trailer home in BC paradise, in a corner of Powel River, an Island in a rainforest (it rarely rains when the sun is up; three sides of the TH look at water and/or ancient forest). I have learned to be fully in charge of my life, which takes some time after years of work and even retirement, to become a-customised.
      I never felt so free before, which probably gave me focus and a penchant against wasting time or the penny. I have always enjoyed my time out at a movie, pubs and camping holidays, but a frugal life has given me a secure retirement with possibilities to travel the great ancient sites of our wonderful world. This December to the Pyramids I begin my visits of ancient sights that are beyond wonder! How did the ancients move those massive rocks that we cannot move today, even with our best machinery!
      My tale is extreme, but the trick is to think like the Chinese (I am Caucasian but like to study, learn from other cultures). So, spend as little as possible, challenge yourself, save and invest. WE never know what the future has in store . . . so save & plan for for any emergency.
      There are alternative possibilities to what the two chatterboxes present in this video discussion. Choose to defy the path of the herd; and be wiser from each trial on your travels in this great universe.
      We are, have been and will be again. This universe is all we have and it of forever: it is not expanding, not one iota of information (material is also information) is destroyed beyond change. Every moment brings change.
      Namaste and care,
      mhikl

    • @mark1952able
      @mark1952able 5 лет назад +2

      Alex; Thank you for sharing Prof Cary Cooper...

  • @FakeCrisRealTyranny
    @FakeCrisRealTyranny 3 года назад +52

    Now it's 2021. "We'll own nothing, and we'll be happy." End of shopping, beginning of drone-delivered rented goods (as allowed by the social credit system for good behavior.

    • @angela3chapman
      @angela3chapman 3 года назад +7

      Behavior Modification at its Best. What a frightening reality.

    • @Sarahizahhsum
      @Sarahizahhsum 3 года назад +3

      @@angela3chapman Good thing they'll at least let us die. I'm just enlightening myself and moving on to the next boot camp experience. This one has been fascinating for sure.

    • @douglassnodgrass7002
      @douglassnodgrass7002 3 года назад +2

      Sounds like you already understand. Too bad many still do not

    • @douglassnodgrass7002
      @douglassnodgrass7002 3 года назад +2

      @@Sarahizahhsum boot camp? Lol. Nice description

    • @FakeCrisRealTyranny
      @FakeCrisRealTyranny 3 года назад

      @Joseph Santos I am not, although our Canadian Prime Minister is doing his utmost to emulate the CCP.

  • @jonathanedwardgibson
    @jonathanedwardgibson 5 лет назад +54

    As Noam observed, “Government is the shadow cast by Big Business.”

  • @wrrdmusic
    @wrrdmusic 7 лет назад +134

    Loved everything I heard here but at 37:00 when they talk about the hunter gatherer as being individualistic, that’s actually incorrect. Hunter gatherer societies were always altruistic because if you and your family have killed a deer and you find some other group who’s hungry, you would feed them. This is because you couldn’t keep the meat for yourself and because someday you’ll be hungry and in need of help

    • @donnamaco1
      @donnamaco1 5 лет назад +21

      Correct, Humanity survived due to the ability to collaborate. If we were to have lived in constant state of aggressive, cut throat competition, we would of never have made it out of the cave.

    • @singingway
      @singingway 5 лет назад +8

      Peter Joseph's book The New Human Rights Movement shows a way for collaboration like that in the modern world.

    • @donnamaco1
      @donnamaco1 5 лет назад +6

      @@singingway I very much appreciate any of Peter Joseph' work. Can you imagine how much better off we would be as a species if collaboration was our mode of operation. Peter Joseph did an interview with the sassy Jimmy Dore that is worth watching. Your kung Fu collaboration was fun and enjoyable also.

    • @mark1952able
      @mark1952able 5 лет назад

      @@singingway Peter Joseph is a genius in my opinion.

    • @thepeopleslawfirm1222
      @thepeopleslawfirm1222 5 лет назад +3

      Hunter gatherers practiced qualified egoism. Do for yourself before you do for others but your individual stability depends on the stability of the community for which you could not survive without so you help the people around you but that help is based on egoism.

  • @liverpoolboxingbaby
    @liverpoolboxingbaby 6 лет назад +32

    Some food for thought there! I like the idea of small individual changes that we can all make, less consumerism and more interaction with our local communities for starters.

  • @rumataastorskiy5734
    @rumataastorskiy5734 5 лет назад +10

    It took me years to find something good as it is. Considering that I live in Russia. But finally RUclips got a pity on me and suggested this video. It is amazing. Thank you guys and thanks to RUclips.

  • @MKpurplequeennl
    @MKpurplequeennl 5 лет назад +140

    Drug the masses to keep them happy is Aldous Huxley's Brave New World in a nutshell.

    • @graydonb8957
      @graydonb8957 5 лет назад +6

      Maybe...but I also think people are wrapped up in victim hood....the west has been addicted since the 50's consumerist pied piper turned up...medicating people on mass...was a people management decision....recently here in Australia...they banned plastic bags...people became so angry they abused and assaulted supermarket workers....so they brought plastic bags back....people have been infantised and thus act like infants...the state must find ways to deal with this....or expect unrest...if you don't think for yourself...eg grow the fuck up and deal with no spending due to low employment ....and yes I live way below the poverty line myself, then the state will provide a solution(soma)...it doesn't mean that the state holds no responsibility in creating employment....but really they shouldn't have to micro manage your emotional state....like what is happening with the opiod addiction...I do understand people on the streets dosing themselves up and rightly so...it must be a nightmare on wheels...but this is a larger population of people in housing...that arnt 'dealing' with controlling their behaviour.

    • @halasimov1362
      @halasimov1362 5 лет назад +2

      Trump saying to "buy truckloads" of the new approved ketomine drug for the masses hmm...

    • @jonathanedwardgibson
      @jonathanedwardgibson 5 лет назад +6

      When out of country I came across a copy of his 1950’s out-Of-print Brave New World Revisited where he extrapolates with sober and prescient clarity our opiated, over-marketed, and psychologically manipulated XXIst. He had no idea what nuance AI will allow mind-f*ckers to toy with our ‘free will’.

    • @IETCHX69
      @IETCHX69 5 лет назад +4

      SOMA SOMA SOMA

    • @traderx-xtremegrowth2429
      @traderx-xtremegrowth2429 5 лет назад +2

      @@jonathanedwardgibson He would not have been surprised. You need to research his brother Julian's writings, particularly his influence on the formation of UNESCO. All the Huxley's were into eugenics... do what you will with that information.

  • @carolinesmyth127
    @carolinesmyth127 5 лет назад +28

    Biggest Corporations are Corps like Lockheed Martin, the City of London, big pharma and the private Banks etc... Whilst individual CEOs may not consciously be evil, the system they enable, is. Great conversation.

    • @NasimCanada
      @NasimCanada 5 лет назад +4

      Truth ...always filtered by those in control who want to remain in control. Selective omissions selective revelations= incomplete understanding by strategic design to puppeteer those who do not investigate . Keith Clark

    • @finngrant234
      @finngrant234 3 года назад +1

      Key point.
      And it asks good people to do nothing or be complicit.

    • @denisehill1705
      @denisehill1705 3 года назад

      Google the five mega corporations that own pretty much everything. Amazing! National Amusements, Disney, TimeWarner, Comcast, News Corp, and Sony. Back in 1983, I believe, there were 50 big players and in 2011 it went down to six.

  • @JeanineDeal
    @JeanineDeal 5 лет назад +14

    We can not change what we don't realize is happening. This show is helping more to realize what is happening. Change is coming.

    • @gabrielcaleb9277
      @gabrielcaleb9277 3 года назад +1

      VERY true. Like someone said: it IS very important to put something in words. Putting words is a creative process where you almost speak something to life...it seems. No??

    • @JeanineDeal
      @JeanineDeal 3 года назад

      @@gabrielcaleb9277 Yes, I agree!

  • @barrybrown4729
    @barrybrown4729 5 лет назад +13

    I love how Russel asks for clarification on China buying the public with consumerism to avoid giving them democracy. It really shows that he is trying to learn rather than just talk for the sake of it.

  • @veronicavanvugt5189
    @veronicavanvugt5189 7 лет назад +178

    A great interview, I felt quiet an ah moment as I ponder my situation. ...mostly I can't be bothered to change things. ...
    I go to to shopping center every day. meeting friends using free Wi-Fi and aircon, occasionally a free coffee!
    we have become so programed, and lazy...
    Fact is I am going to change..
    I don't even know my neighbors. it seems people only come together when there is a crisis. .
    Thanks Russell and Jacques for inspiring me xxxxx

    • @tezwharton6599
      @tezwharton6599 7 лет назад +2

      Missed out being blinded or just simply to ingnore!.

    • @gymnast2890
      @gymnast2890 6 лет назад +4

      Veronica van Vugt I want to live in Russell's world!

    • @youth-leader
      @youth-leader 6 лет назад +2

      see what's coming here boost.cgrising.com

    • @libmitchell6371
      @libmitchell6371 6 лет назад +1

      how's it going Veronica? making those changes? it aint easy - and yet it is easy, and yet it is not.... what matters is to recognise the gradual process which when you look back may be seen to be a landslide ( hopefully in the right direction!!!)

    • @Pleiadiaes
      @Pleiadiaes 5 лет назад +6

      You have been conditioned deliberately, the world around you that you see has been deliberately constructed by psychological warfare, so you do not see the truth. You need to raise your level of consciousness to free your mind. Question everything !
      In the German prison camps the water was flouridated, as flouride suppresses the pineal gland and a person becomes dumbed down, is easy to control and will obey what they are told. Why do you think your drinking water is flouridated, along with your toothpaste.

  • @trevpds3127
    @trevpds3127 3 года назад +47

    Great show but scary as hell .... The SciFi films of our youth are now reality 😳

    • @jacquelinenjeremiahcliff8440
      @jacquelinenjeremiahcliff8440 3 года назад

      Sbt

    • @tonydijock151
      @tonydijock151 3 года назад +2

      Makes you really take a second look at our reality and not listen to what people and media is telling you to believe but to have a thought of your own. So much for those so called crazy conspiracy people being crazy 😝 they were all right. It’s humbling

    • @vishwa098
      @vishwa098 3 года назад +2

      Those "SciFilms" were actually "Predictive Programming" and were not a coincidence. Program/implant the sub-conscious human mind with thoughts/ideas/agendas through media & entertainment so that when they execute these agendas/events in our reality, humanity would acquiesce to those events without any resistance. Those CIA human psychological experiments during 1930s, 40s were for this.
      Also "Predictive Programming" and "Collective Manifestation" goes hand in hand. This is "Occult" knowledge and also the fundamentals based on which our Quantum universe works and how "Reality" is manifested in our 3rd Density (physical) world.

    • @saraswati2623
      @saraswati2623 2 года назад

      @@vishwa098 Galaxy Quest is the one I'd like to predictively programmed and collectively manifested into.

  • @siriusBhive
    @siriusBhive 3 года назад +74

    Wow it's so weird watching this foresight from the future. NOW WE SEE IT...

    • @human1513
      @human1513 3 года назад +7

      I see it as a history lesson. Humans do the same things over and over,... for more than 5,000 years.

    • @m.j.debruin3041
      @m.j.debruin3041 3 года назад +2

      @@human1513 and it will go on untill humanity, grows up and leave mom's basement.

    • @nancyhanscom1374
      @nancyhanscom1374 3 года назад +2

      @@m.j.debruin3041 Moms basement is exactly where they need to be.

    • @m.j.debruin3041
      @m.j.debruin3041 3 года назад +1

      @@nancyhanscom1374 humanity includes you😁

    • @nathanielcoulter8204
      @nathanielcoulter8204 3 года назад +1

      It’ll repeat itself for as long as we increase in degrees of complexity. I’m pretty sure the game is called king of the hill.

  • @DUB1ification
    @DUB1ification 7 лет назад +157

    Private central banks are the main problem, why governments give private banks the power to print money & lend it back at interest & banks rule the world

    • @tribequest9
      @tribequest9 5 лет назад +21

      This is the real issue at hand.

    • @2davivadiva
      @2davivadiva 5 лет назад +18

      Surprised that wasn’t discussed more

    • @trutacgear
      @trutacgear 5 лет назад +8

      The problem is the people who control the gold cause the gold is money everything else is credit like JP MORGAN said long time ago most of the gold in the world are government properties in US everything is privet even the government ..!

    • @BGcam
      @BGcam 5 лет назад +11

      Boyan Tringov gold doesn’t have real value either. It’s mainly speculative capital investment that gives gold its value. It only has minimal real value in electronics and such as a conductor.

    • @BGcam
      @BGcam 5 лет назад +12

      DUB1ification the entire private banking industry is predicated on usury. The only way to avoid being victims of usury is to nationalize and democratize our currency.

  • @starfishw7138
    @starfishw7138 3 года назад +20

    Finally a real conversation regarding our plight

    • @stephentrueman4843
      @stephentrueman4843 3 года назад

      Jacques Peretti (the guest) made some brilliant documentaries, worth a watch. I can't believe they were shown on the BBC!

  • @lindabryson6775
    @lindabryson6775 5 лет назад +67

    We vote with our money. Boycott Wall Mart, Amazon and Nestle. protect your data also.

    • @halasimov1362
      @halasimov1362 5 лет назад +9

      Linda Bryson
      Money only goes so far when corporations like Amazon are in bed with the Military and get special subsidies. They collect data for the Intelligence empire. This is oligarchy! Not a product of a free market but product of being above the law! We must protect liberty so we can innovate and compete

    • @kingbriantherighteous6124
      @kingbriantherighteous6124 5 лет назад +2

      the poor don't even think twice about how they're going to stretch the little that they do have. others shouldn't try to think for them...but alas.

    • @denisehill1705
      @denisehill1705 3 года назад +4

      Have you google the few companies that own almost everything globally? You'll be amazed! It makes following the money a whole lot more complicated!

    • @denisehill1705
      @denisehill1705 3 года назад +2

      @Aaron NoneYa After what I have been learning and listening to this video today, 02-11-2021, I thinking that's going to take a divine miracle!

    • @denisehill1705
      @denisehill1705 3 года назад +1

      @@halasimov1362 Have you google the few companies that own almost everything globally? You'll be amazed! It makes following the money a whole lot more complicated!

  • @aindriubradleymarshall6226
    @aindriubradleymarshall6226 3 года назад +6

    People seem to be awakening at a faster rate, the Light grows.

  • @mrsolodolo5770
    @mrsolodolo5770 3 года назад +1

    3 years on it is much easier for the everday person to grasp this conversation. Possibly a sign that alot discussed in this podcast is an accurate evaluation on the "way of the world"

  • @francespotter7697
    @francespotter7697 3 года назад +13

    Love the way they start commenting on "disposable consumerism" just as Russell is taking a sip from his plastic water bottle ☺️

    • @kathleenhillock9366
      @kathleenhillock9366 3 года назад +1

      I noticed that too. Overall content is still relevant today though.

  • @k.ohalloran8758
    @k.ohalloran8758 5 лет назад +3

    I’m gonna stop being so shocked that Russell Brand is is such a voice of reason in this increasingly insane world. Love this channel!

  • @ahagamama
    @ahagamama 5 лет назад +24

    whoa. This is 2&1/2 years ago! NOTHING HAS CHANGED!

    • @kathryngannon485
      @kathryngannon485 3 года назад +4

      It's now 2021 and it's just happened the way he said. We are losing the game.

    • @renek243
      @renek243 3 года назад +1

      What is described here has been going on for decades, it would have taken more than a miracle to have a change within a few years.

  • @tripzville7569
    @tripzville7569 5 лет назад +40

    So we have fecked earth and now they are looking at moving out into space. Hasn't the insane system realised that the fundamental dysfunctional problem will still be there.

    • @marcelvermeulen9550
      @marcelvermeulen9550 5 лет назад +1

      Indeed, there will be Star Wars….

    • @human1513
      @human1513 3 года назад +2

      100% spot on correct. History basically keeps on repeating. Just with slight twists but still the same.
      As humans die due to the natural life cycle, the new ones think they have new, better, mever thought of before ideas. All because they never studied history.

    • @angelabuckley29
      @angelabuckley29 3 года назад +3

      @@human1513 real history or the history we were taught? Real history is far scarier then most can ever handle.

    • @human1513
      @human1513 3 года назад

      @@angelabuckley29 Real history.

    • @jacquelinenjeremiahcliff8440
      @jacquelinenjeremiahcliff8440 3 года назад

      Brings to mind an animated short with the characters from the halo series battling against both an ai based intelligence and a kind of parasitic menace that can take over pretty much anything biological or mechanical. Also brings to mind the very real and disturbing theory that it is proposed that microbes and some of the worst viral and parasitic enities..may have found there way here from the Cosmo's. We ponder all the time how are we to cure terrible disease mutations viruses. How often do we wonder exactly were the %#@$ did they come from? Were they just always here hiding under a rock in some deep mine waiting to be found by somone searching for precious minerals or metals. Did they fall from the heavens? On metorites or trinlked down from the tails of comets into the upper atmosphere? If mankind did not literally create disease and plague then it came from somewhere. Every mention in the bible pertaining to fallen stars or those that did not keep there rightful place in the heavens speaks I'll of them .

  • @jenninemclaughlin3522
    @jenninemclaughlin3522 3 года назад +5

    I'm a massage therapist of many years, I wanted to point out that you could bring your Mic toward you so you can sit up straight. I see you rubbing Your lower back. Leaning too far forward can strain Your lower back. Your guest has his extended toward him. Love your interviews so much!!❤

  • @donvoss9926
    @donvoss9926 3 года назад +5

    Your knowledge and understanding on such modern issues is quite inspiring and I find myself drawn to watching your videos more and more. Hope is such a powerful force which must be protected and nurished for any meaningful change to occur !!!!

  • @vulcanprincess1584
    @vulcanprincess1584 5 лет назад +42

    "CEOs genuinely want to bring about change" right and my dog genuinely wants to eat dog food

    • @snoozyq9576
      @snoozyq9576 5 лет назад +3

      They clearly want the best for all of us🤭🤣

    • @TaiwanLife2024
      @TaiwanLife2024 4 года назад +4

      They are the one who make schemes that how to exploit people.

    • @LuisDiaz-gx7ee
      @LuisDiaz-gx7ee 3 года назад

      I mean, they did not say good, necessary change

  • @jessesonic.909_4
    @jessesonic.909_4 7 лет назад +161

    *ur helping me Russell,im telling u man ur helping me with alot in my life rite now.*

  • @realeyesc9385
    @realeyesc9385 5 лет назад +4

    The genius within this conversation may be only outshined my Einstein himself. I watched their body language and was just astonishing by their honesty ... just incredible work fellas while delivering this wealth of understanding !!

  • @shelahruth6607
    @shelahruth6607 5 лет назад +16

    Very detailed information from science, history, and economics. I am certainly going to share with friends. God bless!

  • @matthewdowling3866
    @matthewdowling3866 5 лет назад +64

    "It's easier to envisage the end of the World, than it is to envisage the end of Capitalism..." The final Human on the Planet, was last seen buying an 80" TV from Walmart's Self Checkout

    • @donnamaco1
      @donnamaco1 5 лет назад +3

      Research Peter Joseph, Resource Based Economy.

    • @matthewdowling3866
      @matthewdowling3866 5 лет назад +3

      @@donnamaco1 Donna Cooper Thank you Donna, that was very kind of you! A little bit of Serendipity here...I'm trying to understand how to transition from, & to also replace Corporations & Capitalism, through a new platform i'm working on launching called People's Mandate. It feels to me like time is rapidly running out for Humanity.

    • @donnamaco1
      @donnamaco1 5 лет назад +2

      @@matthewdowling3866 100 Thumbs up to you Matthew. Is there any link where your work and information on the subject is posted? I would appreciate perusing it. Thanks for your post Matthew.

    • @matthewdowling3866
      @matthewdowling3866 5 лет назад +7

      @@donnamaco1 I am running a support platform involved in combating Narcissistic Abuse, and I also launching the Peoples Mandate platform, but it's very early stages yet. It's my opinion that Malignant Narcissism and the current state of the Planet are connected.

    • @donnamaco1
      @donnamaco1 5 лет назад +2

      @@matthewdowling3866 My goodness, is that code for sociopathic? ruclips.net/video/-Gg7fyYH0e8/видео.html This is a must, Mathew.

  • @romlyn99
    @romlyn99 7 лет назад +15

    When I was in Shanghai - We went to a Karaoke bar - stayed there for 5 minutes and ordered tea. We decided to go and were to be charged $400 for this. We left having paid $100. We were shaken down - having to empty our wallets just to leave the bar. When we asked our Chinese friends - they told us - if we involved the police - the police would have forced us to pay $200 - because the state is all about the middle ground and not about fairness.

    • @shareefaalzayani9572
      @shareefaalzayani9572 5 лет назад

      Bad

    • @suesjoy
      @suesjoy 5 лет назад +1

      Yup - that’s a common scam! It happened to a friend who went for a tea ceremony. They tried to charge $600 usd! She just screamed and ended up paying 50

    • @bluewaters3100
      @bluewaters3100 3 года назад

      That is the new Capitalistic Communism philosophy at work...

    • @gabrielcaleb9277
      @gabrielcaleb9277 3 года назад

      Wow robbery...minus a gun

  • @karenkline7221
    @karenkline7221 3 года назад +6

    "..corporations haven't done this out of some evil Machiavellian plot". How come I don't believe that?

  • @bohabdestructo7489
    @bohabdestructo7489 3 года назад +1

    With the events of 2020/21 this speaker had a good understanding of what was to come. Almost like he had insider knowledge. A revaluation, right....

  • @innocenzz
    @innocenzz 4 года назад +6

    After 22:00 Russel says about the underclass: "If they can find a nice way of framing genocide that's what gonna happen" The phrophet speaks lmao. Newsflash of July 2020, they found the framing, and the underdog is starting to wake up. But never underestimate the underdog, a underdog will become a giant when the conditions are right, isn't that what history tells us?

  • @englishsteve1465
    @englishsteve1465 5 лет назад +15

    Well I'm a year late but had to comment. Best convo I've seen in a very long time, well done to both and I'll be exploring further work by Jacques Peretti and listening to Mr Brand with a renewed respect. Sensible and informed ideas on the most important topics globally !
    INCREDIBLE ! .......(Well.......I'll go t' foot of our stair ! )

  • @Windy888City
    @Windy888City 5 лет назад +6

    Yeah, all the corporations have their acts together but unfortunately the masses do not. If only we realised our own power. If all the manual workers in the world went on strike for a week (for instance) it would bring the lot down.
    Russell - this is a great video - thank you . . .

    • @piereb1748
      @piereb1748 5 лет назад

      I wonder really if the ordinary people are prepared to cope with the consequences of unmanned power plants and all that is required for we that are so dependant on one another for,to carry on when no one is there to provide what city dwellers need.Winter cold,summer heat.Live without lights in the city?High rises without power?Even if it could be done without great cost,it would be more difficult for the masses than the powerful n wealthy

    • @aerobique
      @aerobique 5 лет назад +1

      @@piereb1748 calm down drama queen, ,,lets get things done_ windmills idea goes in the right directions.

  • @bencobley4929
    @bencobley4929 5 лет назад +10

    Brilliant. So obvious now in 2019. Carry on Russell, peoples views, knowledge are made up of these sorts of interviews. Make many many more and don't stop.

  • @chunkofbutter75
    @chunkofbutter75 3 года назад +1

    It’s a consumer hamster wheel that we never get off of.
    Had a pastor preach one time. Whatever you hold most dear and important. That IS your God. ( Shopping, gambling, work, career, etc. )

  • @Rockysbeats
    @Rockysbeats 3 года назад +1

    when the world gets out of hand
    we can turn to russell brand

  • @ReeaInspiredWisdom
    @ReeaInspiredWisdom 7 лет назад +15

    Thanks Russell, love your work, keep it coming!

  • @curtbressler3127
    @curtbressler3127 5 лет назад +7

    Much like separating Church and State, it is vital to separate Money and State.
    No public official of any level should be privately benefited from doing their jobs.
    In the current system, that's their goal....to benefit themselves in as many ways as possible.
    This has created the corrupt fascistic system that is entirely oligarchic.

    • @Antonio-ck2hp
      @Antonio-ck2hp 5 лет назад +1

      Very well put 🙌

    • @baybydilly742
      @baybydilly742 5 лет назад +1

      I think it's a great idea in theory, but can it be done? How do we prevent bribes, kickbacks, etc?

    • @hintzofcolorconcepts
      @hintzofcolorconcepts 5 лет назад

      @@baybydilly742 Infrared cutting lasers quietly cures greed from a good safe distance.

  • @TheEvdoggy
    @TheEvdoggy 7 лет назад +14

    Powerful companies..... no mention of Lockheed-Martin, Boeing or Raytheon and the like?

  • @alexcave3228
    @alexcave3228 3 года назад +1

    'Revolution is taking our power back' ... well said. And it's entirely possible!

  • @etha1896
    @etha1896 3 года назад +1

    When I was a child we only had tv and we played in nature, our soul as kids was touched by nature .. Now kids grow up with Virtual reality, so much access to technology. They will only know artificial intelligence, and robotics. I feel the future generations will look at technology as their existence and abandoned their inner selves with spirituality.
    Consumerism and technology has slowly erased our old beliefs.

  • @flosacoco5572
    @flosacoco5572 5 лет назад +3

    They want to remain comfortably numb. I feel although I’m aware of this I have no say , no action can be taken by me. Im a blue collar single 66 year old woman who lives week to week. I hope there are men & women much more educated about this than me who bond and help people to get out from under this travestry.

    • @candicewilmore
      @candicewilmore 3 года назад

      I'm 72 Flo. I'm afraid not much will change...not in our lifetimes. At least we're not "numb" and blind about the truth. Take care.

    • @sevnsharman7
      @sevnsharman7 3 года назад

      @@candicewilmore ladies, bide yr time and when the moment comes, and it will not be far , if it DOES come, stand up and be counted..its going to take everyone (who gets it)

  • @stirlingdavenport4954
    @stirlingdavenport4954 6 лет назад +17

    What a fabulous conversation. We need to talk about the micro decisions that make up our reality - apart from some philosophical bullshit - in just this way that unites us on a ground human level. And, I guess, the butterfly effect.

  • @richarddunn827
    @richarddunn827 3 года назад +5

    Cannot believe how much this resonates

  • @kathywagener5864
    @kathywagener5864 2 года назад +1

    Indigenous people, people who are close to the earth know that you have to let the soil rest periodically. We don't realize that that is how the nutrients stay in the soil, in the food. And if they did know they wouldn't care. All for more and more money.

  • @davideldred.campingwilder6481
    @davideldred.campingwilder6481 3 года назад +1

    Follow the money. Good opening statement.

  • @willsirotak
    @willsirotak 5 лет назад +18

    Corporations are partnered with Governments, which are also INCORPORATED.

    • @NibsNiven
      @NibsNiven 5 лет назад +1

      "Governments ... are also INCORPORATED"

  • @Drainos2006
    @Drainos2006 4 года назад +5

    "There is so much more to life, than fueling the economy".. Urthboy (2001)

  • @spiral-viper
    @spiral-viper 5 лет назад +5

    I love the last few minutes of this. Capitalism is actually pretty good, definitely has problems in its own design but for us socially, much better than Communism or Socialism would be!

    • @halasimov1362
      @halasimov1362 5 лет назад

      SpiralViper
      Yes! People blame the market for the problems of oligarchy. But oligarchy loves socialism the most because we have less power

    • @spiral-viper
      @spiral-viper 5 лет назад

      @@halasimov1362 I think many people don't realize that if any of us were where the powerful people are, and doing what they do, that we wouldn't do nearly as well and would make more of a mess than it currently is. I know that i for one, wouldn't survive up there and the world would be a worse place if i was more involved in it. Combine this with my being more articulate in my thinking and speech than many people i've talked to on the Internet. Many people lack self-awareness and fair-mindedness. But i used to blame governments and corporations, i was a hardout conspiracy theorist and life taught me the hard way to rethink the position i took. Although, that i think it would be the same case for others could be a mistake in itself.

    • @snoozyq9576
      @snoozyq9576 5 лет назад

      @@spiral-viper Idk, there's some suspicious stuff going in that government. Trump blaming Clinton for Epstein's death. Hmmm...

    • @spiral-viper
      @spiral-viper 5 лет назад

      @@snoozyq9576 there's definitely well, i wouldn't actually call it corruption. they don't work in the best interests of the public. Harald Kautz Vella has explained a lot of things, not all things but i found his lectures interesting

  • @johnburns1839
    @johnburns1839 5 лет назад +1

    What a discussion! Cracking, cracking with energy of concepts about which we hardly ever consider. Am new on here but will certainly be back.

  • @lucyanstey9659
    @lucyanstey9659 3 года назад +2

    To me go shopping is the same as “Let them eat cake!” I am so in gratitude for your words.

  • @gg_rider
    @gg_rider 5 лет назад +3

    Governments like the US and UK do not NEED tax revenue to function, they only need tax collection as the legal "backing" of the currency.
    Instead of a Law which says govt will exchange gold rocks for Dollars or Pounds at a fixed price, which sets up the requirement of a so-called balanced budget, i.e. extreme austerity, we simply have Laws that say you must pay any tax liabilities and govt will accept/redeem its own issued domestic liabilities (currency) to settle tax liabilities.

  • @rebeccamd7903
    @rebeccamd7903 7 лет назад +7

    I could listen to these societal & mind bending conversations all day long, every day! So stimulating & engaging!

  • @ricknelsonm
    @ricknelsonm 7 лет назад +16

    What I was going to say, "yes, Follow the money"

  • @kikig5036
    @kikig5036 3 года назад +1

    Great show! I’m binging to catch up - necessary info - unsettling as f*ck!

  • @dshepherd107
    @dshepherd107 3 года назад +1

    This is brilliant. Imho, I think it might be good to reintroduce this dialogue, now in 2021, perhaps in 10-15 minute increments? I’ve no clue on that sort of thing, but I think this messages from this would resonate more strongly now, & it certainly feels needed.

  • @mfe23
    @mfe23 7 лет назад +22

    *Well Done Russell...! You are Brilliant Sir -- always have been and always will be... ! Keep Up the Great Work. :)

  • @thearchitecturegirl
    @thearchitecturegirl 7 лет назад +30

    Why do you have bottled water? That's not very subversive. What's wrong with good old sustainable, communal tap water? I can't think of anything more capitalist than a bottle of a free natural resource encased in plastic made of oil and sold for a huge profit. Maybe a can of coke.

    • @stillaliveinusa2499
      @stillaliveinusa2499 6 лет назад +5

      Are you being a fool on purpose>?

    • @dlwseattle
      @dlwseattle 6 лет назад

      i do not think that someone asking a question about why another person chooses to do something, giving reasons for their opinion, and offering reasonable alternatives is foolish. they never said that they had to to do it - they were merely asking why they weren't. you may not agree with the heart of the comment but answering a question with another question (along with an insult) does not add much to the discussion.

    • @binky1135
      @binky1135 6 лет назад

      Shut the fuck up lol

    • @KevinJohnson-cv2no
      @KevinJohnson-cv2no 5 лет назад

      ​@@dlwseattle It definitely is foolish, when you consider the answer is simple and should be common sense. Scarcity. We have to divide and quantify water because everyone needs it, and there is only so much of it to go around in limited areas. It's literally the same exact reason you can't just go and get everything else in society for free and not have to worry about shit, LIMITED RESOURCES. And since this is a fact of nature, it now falls down to who should be allocated those resources? Logic dictates that productive members of society should.

    • @ninjabreadgirl
      @ninjabreadgirl 5 лет назад +1

      Obviously it's convenient

  • @lotusflower9810
    @lotusflower9810 5 лет назад +8

    The guest mentions "precaria" or the class of instability. The global Class is precarious. We are all part of the Precaria Class.
    I have not heard that term in quite some time.

  • @leeoreilly6797
    @leeoreilly6797 3 года назад +1

    Wow, this guy is super succinct in talking about/describing these issues. Brilliant.

  • @elaineancian1447
    @elaineancian1447 3 года назад +1

    Excellent discussion...much food for thought

  • @declinescore
    @declinescore 7 лет назад +6

    Another great conversation, the same themes keep coming up.

  • @jamesredgrove6141
    @jamesredgrove6141 7 лет назад +11

    Funny that an Amazon Black friday advert preceeded this. Fantastic discuss!

    • @ricky7396
      @ricky7396 7 лет назад +2

      James Redgrove Yeah mate its crazy how sometimes RUclips does that, and inserts the most inappropriate ads imaginable ahead of some videos. Black Friday is hyping up the masses like sheep to rush out on a made up special day. with the promise and made up urgency of limited one off deals that aren't actually good deals for the most part. fights ensue and it's generally regarded as a spectecal of the worst of humanity. everything Russ and guest and I'd imagine most non troll users despise haha.

  • @dancygr
    @dancygr 7 лет назад +24

    You should get a few more camera angles Russell, it would help keep people's attention, or at least mine haha

    • @bmt3315
      @bmt3315 7 лет назад +2

      George Dancy listen to it when you’re washing the dishes.

    • @suesjoy
      @suesjoy 5 лет назад

      Russell’s hair looks great, though! I don’t like the man bun look! 😮😁💜

  • @jang3412
    @jang3412 5 лет назад +2

    Reminds me of a sci-fi story I read years ago. It was essential to consume and the poor were weighed down with having to constantly consume. The 'well off' people were slim, could wear simple clothes etc. and not have to constantly consume. At first robots couldn't be used 'because they didn't 'enjoy it' but later that was able to be changed and robots could be used in helping to consume. Sorry if details are missing, but I read it probably in the 60s and it's just what I remember of the story.

  • @hilaryquinlan837
    @hilaryquinlan837 3 года назад +1

    Yes bring back the tribe, multi generational and help each other. Namaste!

  • @kivriel2660
    @kivriel2660 7 лет назад +6

    Luckily are we souls living infinite lives and what we experience here is basically an simulation.

    • @01parmy
      @01parmy 5 лет назад +1

      thats what i reckon too

  • @tripzville7569
    @tripzville7569 5 лет назад +4

    I have a feeling that mother nature will step in big time and focus the human mind.

    • @kingbriantherighteous6124
      @kingbriantherighteous6124 5 лет назад

      agreed. she is very patient. i reckon it has to get to the point where it is either her or us. i don't think she even knows how to save us from ourselves.

    • @stevenvitali7404
      @stevenvitali7404 5 лет назад

      @@kingbriantherighteous6124 psychedelics could make a change in our mindset

    • @kingbriantherighteous6124
      @kingbriantherighteous6124 5 лет назад

      @@stevenvitali7404 dude. if the yellowstone caldera was to blow right now. how would 'anything' make a difference in anybody's mindset.

    • @kingbriantherighteous6124
      @kingbriantherighteous6124 5 лет назад

      u said 'could' i said 'if'

    • @stevenvitali7404
      @stevenvitali7404 5 лет назад

      @@kingbriantherighteous6124 well it didn't blow did it, so in the meantime psychedelics would help, also people who are dying from cancer and have taken them don't fear death as much, have you tried them before?

  • @TedThomasTT
    @TedThomasTT 7 лет назад +6

    Jacques is one of the few good things the beeb has left.

  • @jamesrosales89
    @jamesrosales89 3 года назад +1

    absolutely incredble !! blown away how Russell is pointing all this out... so important !

  • @christianhall6066
    @christianhall6066 3 года назад +1

    What a great conversation

  • @angelakadeer1565
    @angelakadeer1565 5 лет назад +3

    That man has the most lovely voice, he is also clever and interesting.

  • @jamieslaght
    @jamieslaght 7 лет назад +5

    I hate the system I was born into and am forced to conform to for any kind of peace. :/

    • @matt_fs
      @matt_fs 5 лет назад +1

      I'd suggest to try and make the most out of it. It is not pleasant to go through life with a victim mentality. This system is far from perfect but its the best we have till date.

    • @aerobique
      @aerobique 5 лет назад +1

      @@matt_fs no

  • @enigmaga_ra7086
    @enigmaga_ra7086 5 лет назад +3

    Effective positive Communication and understanding is foundation for collective happiness and balance

  • @keithbickerdike4621
    @keithbickerdike4621 3 года назад +1

    People don't have much choice ... People are commodities for the rich...

  • @Jordie0001
    @Jordie0001 5 лет назад

    Russell you really cracked it with this one. everybody on the planet should watch this because its so jam packed full of the most vital issues. well done

  • @neilb13
    @neilb13 7 лет назад +6

    He's right about Blackpool, I spent a week there one day.

  • @NeuroHead
    @NeuroHead 3 года назад +3

    Amazing how Pewdiepie could just sit there in the background silent for an hour while these two chatted away.

  • @mtfine
    @mtfine 5 лет назад +4

    Data is the new oil.

  • @sunflower-oo1ff
    @sunflower-oo1ff 6 лет назад +1

    I can’t believed this hasn’t gone viral...ultimately interesting. Thank you so much Russell❤️

  • @kevinjanosky7162
    @kevinjanosky7162 5 лет назад +1

    Mr. Brand... you will change the world. Thank you. I'm in.

  • @hotfoodonaplate3306
    @hotfoodonaplate3306 7 лет назад +6

    " Cathedral of cunsumerism to worship the God of shopping!" Damn, so grateful I terminated my membership #minimalist

  • @VeganSemihCyprus33
    @VeganSemihCyprus33 7 лет назад +4

    Please learn about Resource Based Economy.

  • @matthewelliott9050
    @matthewelliott9050 7 лет назад +15

    Good video Russel! I was thinking maybe you could get a vegan on the show to talk about some of the environmental, health, and moral impacts?

  • @svnhospitalet7885
    @svnhospitalet7885 3 года назад +1

    Russell i have an idea you might like. We need a doomsday-book of cooperations.
    To be able to tax things fairly, we need to know who owns what. If it’s not in the book, it is free game to be stolen (beyond the law).

  • @daydreamer-ix2bo
    @daydreamer-ix2bo 3 года назад +1

    Pikety is right. Global tax system is the only thing that will counter balance the power of multinationals

  • @reagangundersen3490
    @reagangundersen3490 7 лет назад +13

    Hey Russell, could you please do a video about Jim Carrey and his awakening?

    • @DAN_ZEMAN
      @DAN_ZEMAN 7 лет назад

      Reagan Gundersen
      That WOULD be dangerous.
      I wrote 'could be dangerous' but decided to upgrade the warning to something more serious.

    • @shareefaalzayani9572
      @shareefaalzayani9572 5 лет назад

      Good one bro

  • @dattebayo155
    @dattebayo155 7 лет назад +22

    it's like you learned a lot, it got all bleak and stuff, the meaninglessness of human existence was highlighted as a massive force beyond your control, we're all subject to, but in the end we're back at square one: faith in the beauty of humanity and the power of personal choice and community ha ha. Let's never forget square one, but begin there every morning :D

  • @surfbum8166
    @surfbum8166 5 лет назад +3

    Russell, I love your show but evolve--NO MORE PLASTIC BOTTLES please

  • @mikeodell9688
    @mikeodell9688 3 года назад +2

    "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country... corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed." - Abraham Lincoln.

  • @jasmine-oliviarose1908
    @jasmine-oliviarose1908 3 года назад +1

    Thank you sharing, look how much he states in this interview which has come to light today March 2021