In my opinion, quite literally the best solo flawless guide videos.....yet I am still to solo flawless any dungeon. That said I'm still to run some of them but the way you break everything down makes me want to have a crack at it 😂 thank you
@@JamesWilson9777 I can recommend to switch to a rocket sidearm before getting beamed up, but what also works fine is warlock with the new exotic, throw a grenade in front of you, you then just have to take out the two shanks comming from the left but a rocket sidearm should do the job as well.
Another tip for first encounter. If you can’t kill the final big brig before the nuke’s timer expires, leave the big brig low health instead of killing it and go grab another nuke. The big brig does not respawn or regain health as long as you leave it alive.
@@apockypocky2345 If its on the ground and ur away from the nuke (not sure exactly how far. Ive tried it when it wasnt too far, like 5 meters and it did nothing.) it wont hurt you. I havent tried holding it until its timer ends so not sure there.
@@gnome12585 The timer stops actually when you are holding it so im not sure if thats even possible unless you pick it up in the exact same moment as it explodes, otherwise the stacks of radiation can kill you but if it explodes on the ground and you are away from it nothing happens, you can clear the respective room again.
if ur really scared of the part where u run and grab suppressor on servitor boss, a glaive is actually pretty neat to have, as long as ur blocking u won’t die helps if ur on master and all that
Awesome! You always make great videos, and I want you to know that I appreciate all the time and effort you put into these videos! This is such a cool dungeon, and I'm looking forward to my solo flawless attempts.
This video gave me hope, tried to solo it, got clapped by the servitor…oh well its not my time yet.. amazing content keep up the amazing work you do:)))
Tizzle is the best. Prior to The Final Shape I completed all but one dungeon solo flawless using these guides. Aside from Duality I had a great time doing it.
I plan on attempting this and might not have the patience to wait, but based on last episode, Act 2 and 3 brought some awesome artifact mods. So those could make things easier.
Hey Tizzle, I see the chapter timestamps in the description - curious why you don't segment the actual video that way too? Great content as always. You and Ebontis keep a solo D2 player motivated.
Man I’ve made it to the final boss without dying but I cannot survive damage phase for the life of me smh just need to take some notes from this and try and find what works for me. Thank you for the tips and tricks it’s appreciated.
i soloed that way back when for fun... but i never did a full on solo run, because i hated the cube room so much, it takes so f**king long to do and is just annoying.......... its not hard........... just a total time waster of a dungeon macanic. 90% of my time in that dungeon is the stupid cube room.
It's the fucking Phalanx boss man, oh look you seem to be having fun, here lemme just knock you off the platform and instakill you real quick, can't be letting you have too much fun here can we?
For years the first encounter ive used Bonk titan and laurely or synthesis(edit synthos, damn autocorrect)and banner, use a blinding GL and an smg with surrounded, and Lament. Easy 2 phase. Now with prismatic it's even easier but keep a sword for saves from boss boops. Also another tip is always start solo attempts on Tuesday so you keep any checkpoints all week
I’ve not done it yet. School is tough right now. Have 2 presentations coming up but after them can go hard in the season. This Dungeon looks so OP! Will come back and rewatch when I learn the mechs and paths. Thanks, Tizz!
for supressor on 1 boss, theres way better spot. you stand on the left wall part. go to the right and on the back waal part on the right theres a hole. place it there, the boss cant hit you there with the explosion balls. very easy safe spot.
Definitely suggest Sojourner with Heal Clip to take care of the clones in the locked radiation room. Takes care of them quick and the way it reloads allows for really nice Heal Clip activation to quickly top yourself off. Also Arena Denials or any special GL can make the trip mine traversal much easier to take out a chunk of them.
PRO TIP FOR THE FIRST ENCOUNTER: Kill Scanner and let it sit. itll rot but a new Viral Carrier will spawn when you approach where the Brig drops in. LEAVE IT WHERE IT DROPS. Now the solo player should go into each of the 3 hallways and kill everything FIRST. THEN go spawn a new Viral Carrier and go do the thing. Much better strat.
True,.which isn't a Bad Thing, but If you have that much Trouble on First encounte, you should maybe grow as a Player First before atempting cause it'l only get worse from there on @@phamviet7905
ok i feel dumb here but how does the scanner tell you which puppet to kill in the bunker rooms? they all looked the same to me. does it make a sound or something?
OMFG!! trying to get screen shots of these builds if a god dam nightmare… he moves his curser so fast around the screen it’s hard to pause it in the right place where he’s not blocking the screen 😅
Man, I can consistently get to the final encounter without dying on my hunter, but the DPS phase just absolutely kicks my balls in. It also doesn't really help that I'm looking at a 50-60+ min final bossfight where the most crucial and most deadly part happens in an orange arena with orange hazards. Thanks a bunch for the audio tip though. Turning off the music is probably going to help quite a bit with the lightning strikes.
Thanks man! Did you try out sleeper? I’m going to try my solo in solar warlock and I’m nervous about missing whisper shots so I was wondering if sleeper might be okay. Great job and I hope to see your warlock run through soon!
Bro, you are quite talented at this game. Some of you younger folks make this look so easy. What I really want to ask is, when you do donate to a Bungie via Streamer, why does nobody ever say how much of your actual donations go to aid whichever cause it would be going to? I have many emblems from donating very very often, and I am old, permanently disabled and on a very small, fixed income (well below poverty level, about 22K a year) and I do it because I love helping others. I just would like to know why the percentage of donation going to the actual victims is not mentioned? Do you guys get that information? Or is it something you streamers are unaware of? Just curious.... Mad respect for all your hard work, as I have a small notion as to how much effort you guys have to put into playing, making builds, capturing content and then doing all the editing and such, is likely not an easy job. So from this old man, 50 plus years old btw, I appreciate you and your work...
@@mybrutaltruth9359 appreciate you. I would like to know how much goes to the cause as well. It’s why I normally choose to donate to local food banks as my charity of choice. As for bungie foundation donations, I’m in the dark as much as anyone. I just get my info about them in the TWID like everyone else. I’m not privy to any other info
@@itztizzle appreciate the reply young man! I did a small bit of research and didn't actually find number per say, but there are minimal amounts of each donation that goes to pay for administrative costs for Bungie, Twitch also. They did say that the overwhelming majority of each donation goes to aid the victims they would be currently representing. Also, I like you even more now, knowing you donate to local food banks, how great it would be if everyone had that mindset, to give a bit to charitable causes if and when they can. Would make a huge difference in so many peoples lives, like you do for your community locally. I wish you and yours the very best, and continued success on your RUclips channel. Thanks again.
Hey whats up mah tizzlas, its tizzle here. Today we're gonna tizzle all over the new dungeon. The build we're gonna be using is the tizzle with the tizzle lizzle. Anyways that's gonna be it for today. Tizzle out
If youre warlock you can stand on the little white fuel tank near the front and to the right of the stage (facing the boss). Drop well to heal passed the clones shooting you but the lightning shouldn't be able to damage you. Titan you can stand near the left wall as theres a little section you can stand on and put a barrier up. Lightning wont hit that area so all you're dealing with are the clones. For Hunter (my main and only class) I've just run around like a headless chicken and throwing damage over time weapons like Lost Signal and Dragons Breath. Probably not the most optimal DPS but I'd rather be able to take care of the clones and dodge lightning than squeeze out as much DPS as I can and die to something stupid lol.
Too bad they changed Grand Overture missile accumulation. I still think it’s a good option but I don’t always have the 20 ready to go by DPS. Looks like Anarchy is getting some attention
I disagree. I think it’s absolutely perfect. You could just use a cheese spot but if you really don’t want to use one having a single target damage option to deal with clones and learning to play the dps kind of like witness dps makes it easy. Imo it’s the perfect difficulty.
Quick question. In final boss after my 3rd or 4th boss rotation scanner has a chance to not spawn after killing the 2 sets of clones and I have no idea what to do to fix it?
Only thing I can think of would be that if you cleanse the scanner in the lead up to dps, the scanner guy doesn’t die during dps preventing another one from spawning. I could be wrong but it’s worth paying attention to.
also for warlock the spot on the tanker is not safe you can still get one hit killed through max resil well and nested rift and healing turret regardless of where you are on the tank
What soft locks are there on the final boss? I never ran into a single one on my solo flawless attempts. As for rng, I found that there were a ton of different strategies to mitigate that rng enough to essentially remove it as a factor.
@@EggyWeggyIII you know how when any of the buffs disappear they are meant to respawn? sometimes they just dont. Twice scanner disappeared, once from the just it decided to disappear bug, and once bc i didnt pick it up in time, both times it did not respawn correctly and i lost the 25% chance on the panels. Also lost a run to the arc bullshit clipping through the safe room during damage while the door was closed but thats just rng/bad design, not a softlock.
@@bernardgaming7206 odd. I never encountered that. I guess an easy fix would be to just make sure you get every buff into a terminal before they despawn. As for the dps oil drum strat, I’m assuming you’re referring to the little tower in the middle of the arena? I found that doing dps in back left was 100% safe because it gave you so much time to react if you were going to die. But if you don’t want to use something like that I found that having something to kill the clones then playing the dps phase like the witness fight where you just dodge the arc wasn’t too bad and didn’t extend the required dps phases all that much. Like I said, there are issues but there are issues with every dungeon. The trick with a solo flawless is being able to adapt and problem solve to mitigate rng and bugs.
In what way? The only annoying gripe I have with this dungeon is that you can’t swap buffs with one in a terminal. Other than that I never encountered a situation that was unfair or unjustly tedious.
If its still on sale you should be able to pick up the Annual Pass version for like...$30? So if you needed to purchase this season as well as the dungeon keys then you might as well grab the annual pass upgrade which will also grant the next episode as well as the dungeon key (which I believe is for this dungeon and the one we get in Episode 3, I think?).
I'm soloing this for sure. Flawless might be too much for my patience. Depends on how my solo run goes. This is my favorite dungeon in this game by a lot. Spire is the worst content Bungie has ever made IMO.
I really like your content but here is only about play titan with most cheesiest build. Next time make a guide after you solo flawless on all characters.
this isnt a dungeon guide(even though he does touch on the mechanics), this is a guide to give tips for solo flawless..it aint that hard to use your brain :D
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In my opinion, quite literally the best solo flawless guide videos.....yet I am still to solo flawless any dungeon. That said I'm still to run some of them but the way you break everything down makes me want to have a crack at it 😂 thank you
Thank you! Glad you find them helpful! Good luck in your runs!
"These little fuckers" - exactly what I was thinking about those damn exploder shanks hahaha
I think that’s the only thing that kills me in the servitor encounter
LOL’ed fr when he said that. Felt that
@@JamesWilson9777 I can recommend to switch to a rocket sidearm before getting beamed up, but what also works fine is warlock with the new exotic, throw a grenade in front of you, you then just have to take out the two shanks comming from the left but a rocket sidearm should do the job as well.
Heya, this guide was exellent and super helped me get my solo flawless, really appreciate all the effort you put into this!
@@EidolonAlly that’s awesome! Good work! Glad it helped
Another tip for first encounter. If you can’t kill the final big brig before the nuke’s timer expires, leave the big brig low health instead of killing it and go grab another nuke. The big brig does not respawn or regain health as long as you leave it alive.
Do you wait until the nuke timer runs out or do you go grab a new one before then?
@@Luketheduke12Just wait for the timer to run out
The nuke will blow up and wipe you??
@@apockypocky2345 If its on the ground and ur away from the nuke (not sure exactly how far. Ive tried it when it wasnt too far, like 5 meters and it did nothing.) it wont hurt you. I havent tried holding it until its timer ends so not sure there.
@@gnome12585 The timer stops actually when you are holding it so im not sure if thats even possible unless you pick it up in the exact same moment as it explodes, otherwise the stacks of radiation can kill you but if it explodes on the ground and you are away from it nothing happens, you can clear the respective room again.
if ur really scared of the part where u run and grab suppressor on servitor boss, a glaive is actually pretty neat to have, as long as ur blocking u won’t die
helps if ur on master and all that
What roll for Glaive would you recommend?
@@boigalicksii010 just anything really
i ran Forthcoming Deviance with recon chaos reshaped but it doesn’t really matter
try to max guard duration ig
The tips on the lightning are huge, thanks!
Awesome! You always make great videos, and I want you to know that I appreciate all the time and effort you put into these videos! This is such a cool dungeon, and I'm looking forward to my solo flawless attempts.
Oh so its gonna take me five years to solo this. Ghoul on crack better be the title I stg
You and me both
This video gave me hope, tried to solo it, got clapped by the servitor…oh well its not my time yet.. amazing content keep up the amazing work you do:)))
Tizzle is the best. Prior to The Final Shape I completed all but one dungeon solo flawless using these guides. Aside from Duality I had a great time doing it.
@@VermontJones that’s awesome! Good work!
Just got mine done. Ty for the help Tizzle!
@@MADLVACE good job!!
I plan on attempting this and might not have the patience to wait, but based on last episode, Act 2 and 3 brought some awesome artifact mods. So those could make things easier.
Hey Tizzle, I see the chapter timestamps in the description - curious why you don't segment the actual video that way too? Great content as always. You and Ebontis keep a solo D2 player motivated.
I have no idea why they didn't apply to the video. It is how I do it on all videos with timestamps. Very strange
Man I’ve made it to the final boss without dying but I cannot survive damage phase for the life of me smh just need to take some notes from this and try and find what works for me. Thank you for the tips and tricks it’s appreciated.
If you're on warlock, I used esoterickk's strat of sitting on a pillar with stag rift. You just ignore adds and is a pretty safe 3 - 4 phase.
Yoooo that warlock is siiiiiiiiiiiiiick
I can do first two encounters of vespers host solo but not prophecy 1st encounter boss.
i soloed that way back when for fun... but i never did a full on solo run, because i hated the cube room so much, it takes so f**king long to do and is just annoying.......... its not hard........... just a total time waster of a dungeon macanic. 90% of my time in that dungeon is the stupid cube room.
It's the fucking Phalanx boss man, oh look you seem to be having fun, here lemme just knock you off the platform and instakill you real quick, can't be letting you have too much fun here can we?
For years the first encounter ive used Bonk titan and laurely or synthesis(edit synthos, damn autocorrect)and banner, use a blinding GL and an smg with surrounded, and Lament. Easy 2 phase. Now with prismatic it's even easier but keep a sword for saves from boss boops. Also another tip is always start solo attempts on Tuesday so you keep any checkpoints all week
Stronghold lament combo on Titan makes that so easy
@@jasonkeely7269 Ya I know its easy its just the fucking boss boops me off every second or the knights kill me. but usually the boss.
I’ve not done it yet. School is tough right now. Have 2 presentations coming up but after them can go hard in the season.
This Dungeon looks so OP! Will come back and rewatch when I learn the mechs and paths.
Thanks, Tizz!
for supressor on 1 boss, theres way better spot. you stand on the left wall part. go to the right and on the back waal part on the right theres a hole. place it there, the boss cant hit you there with the explosion balls. very easy safe spot.
Definitely suggest Sojourner with Heal Clip to take care of the clones in the locked radiation room. Takes care of them quick and the way it reloads allows for really nice Heal Clip activation to quickly top yourself off.
Also Arena Denials or any special GL can make the trip mine traversal much easier to take out a chunk of them.
This was a huge help, thx so much dawg/like+sub
PRO TIP FOR THE FIRST ENCOUNTER: Kill Scanner and let it sit. itll rot but a new Viral Carrier will spawn when you approach where the Brig drops in. LEAVE IT WHERE IT DROPS. Now the solo player should go into each of the 3 hallways and kill everything FIRST. THEN go spawn a new Viral Carrier and go do the thing. Much better strat.
unnecessarily complicated lmao
if ur havinng problems running fast enough through hallways something is wrong
True,.which isn't a Bad Thing, but If you have that much Trouble on First encounte, you should maybe grow as a Player First before atempting cause it'l only get worse from there on @@phamviet7905
Or just do heart room first and stuff it in the shower; why overcomplicate it?
@@JinougaProductions i like to do heart room last to give the nuke as much time on the floor as i can while i deal with the last brig
You can literally skip the whole first encounter.
ok i feel dumb here but how does the scanner tell you which puppet to kill in the bunker rooms? they all looked the same to me. does it make a sound or something?
the amount of times we wiped in contest to those god damn shanks
Sleeper does a good job on the last boss
Wouldn´t a class item with star eater give more super dmg than synthoseps?
I might try your buds way anarchy t crash and consecration, have always been bad with overture
OMFG!! trying to get screen shots of these builds if a god dam nightmare… he moves his curser so fast around the screen it’s hard to pause it in the right place where he’s not blocking the screen 😅
The "" keys will move the video in that direction one frame at a time. You're welcome.
@@ForeverLaxx don’t think that works on the iPad RUclips app.. or maybe it does & I haven’t found it yet
@@SparkyMTB >using Apple products
Found your problem.
Man, I can consistently get to the final encounter without dying on my hunter, but the DPS phase just absolutely kicks my balls in. It also doesn't really help that I'm looking at a 50-60+ min final bossfight where the most crucial and most deadly part happens in an orange arena with orange hazards. Thanks a bunch for the audio tip though. Turning off the music is probably going to help quite a bit with the lightning strikes.
You can also turn up the effects. It'll look janky inside the rooms where you take the bosses shield off after dunking a core but it helps.
Does damage timer start after you remove the shield or after suppressor spawns ?
Thanks man! Did you try out sleeper? I’m going to try my solo in solar warlock and I’m nervous about missing whisper shots so I was wondering if sleeper might be okay. Great job and I hope to see your warlock run through soon!
He talks about sleeper in the video at 36:28, and recommends grand overture instead. But, if it works for you, use it!
Bro, you are quite talented at this game. Some of you younger folks make this look so easy. What I really want to ask is, when you do donate to a Bungie via Streamer, why does nobody ever say how much of your actual donations go to aid whichever cause it would be going to? I have many emblems from donating very very often, and I am old, permanently disabled and on a very small, fixed income (well below poverty level, about 22K a year) and I do it because I love helping others. I just would like to know why the percentage of donation going to the actual victims is not mentioned? Do you guys get that information? Or is it something you streamers are unaware of? Just curious.... Mad respect for all your hard work, as I have a small notion as to how much effort you guys have to put into playing, making builds, capturing content and then doing all the editing and such, is likely not an easy job. So from this old man, 50 plus years old btw, I appreciate you and your work...
"All money raised will go directly to our partners at Team Rubicon and Direct Relief." its says it on the tiltify donation page
@@mybrutaltruth9359 appreciate you. I would like to know how much goes to the cause as well. It’s why I normally choose to donate to local food banks as my charity of choice. As for bungie foundation donations, I’m in the dark as much as anyone. I just get my info about them in the TWID like everyone else. I’m not privy to any other info
@@itztizzle appreciate the reply young man! I did a small bit of research and didn't actually find number per say, but there are minimal amounts of each donation that goes to pay for administrative costs for Bungie, Twitch also. They did say that the overwhelming majority of each donation goes to aid the victims they would be currently representing. Also, I like you even more now, knowing you donate to local food banks, how great it would be if everyone had that mindset, to give a bit to charitable causes if and when they can. Would make a huge difference in so many peoples lives, like you do for your community locally. I wish you and yours the very best, and continued success on your RUclips channel. Thanks again.
Scatter signal is nice with slice and controlled burst over lost signal
18:45 had me giggling
That sounded personal lmao
This feels like it should be helpful but I'm guessing I'm just trash. Good luck everyone on their attempts
Is base liars handshake better than a class item with it? Damage wise?
Nope
You run the base Exotic if you want the healing without having to land a kill, as the Class Item version doesn't have that.
people have used tether on the first boss in master since it’s not disabled. It kills the boss so fast they’re a 50/50 that you get booted to orbit
Hey whats up mah tizzlas, its tizzle here. Today we're gonna tizzle all over the new dungeon. The build we're gonna be using is the tizzle with the tizzle lizzle. Anyways that's gonna be it for today. Tizzle out
My man, here she finally is
Thanks Tiz
Also, first
Bungie really cooked for the none casuals with this dungeon
Even every pantheon was easier than this dungeon(short raid) on day one💀
where do you guys stand for dps on final boss?
If youre warlock you can stand on the little white fuel tank near the front and to the right of the stage (facing the boss). Drop well to heal passed the clones shooting you but the lightning shouldn't be able to damage you.
Titan you can stand near the left wall as theres a little section you can stand on and put a barrier up. Lightning wont hit that area so all you're dealing with are the clones.
For Hunter (my main and only class) I've just run around like a headless chicken and throwing damage over time weapons like Lost Signal and Dragons Breath. Probably not the most optimal DPS but I'd rather be able to take care of the clones and dodge lightning than squeeze out as much DPS as I can and die to something stupid lol.
Is there a warlock build that can flawess solo this without Anarchy?😭
plenty yeah, my friend used levi’s breath, i saw another guy using edge transit
Too bad they changed Grand Overture missile accumulation. I still think it’s a good option but I don’t always have the 20 ready to go by DPS. Looks like Anarchy is getting some attention
I cant even solo flawless Prophecy 😅
How/where did you get a heavy ammo finder weapon mod?
A new suite of weapon mods was added this Episode. Can be placed on crafted/enhanceable weapons.
First two encounters are a cakewalk but the final boss is way overtuned for solo play
I disagree. I think it’s absolutely perfect. You could just use a cheese spot but if you really don’t want to use one having a single target damage option to deal with clones and learning to play the dps kind of like witness dps makes it easy. Imo it’s the perfect difficulty.
Quick question. In final boss after my 3rd or 4th boss rotation scanner has a chance to not spawn after killing the 2 sets of clones and I have no idea what to do to fix it?
Only thing I can think of would be that if you cleanse the scanner in the lead up to dps, the scanner guy doesn’t die during dps preventing another one from spawning. I could be wrong but it’s worth paying attention to.
i wish the final boss didnt have multiple softlocks/ rng instant run fails. Would make me not hate myself trying to run it lol
also for warlock the spot on the tanker is not safe you can still get one hit killed through max resil well and nested rift and healing turret regardless of where you are on the tank
What soft locks are there on the final boss? I never ran into a single one on my solo flawless attempts. As for rng, I found that there were a ton of different strategies to mitigate that rng enough to essentially remove it as a factor.
@@EggyWeggyIII you know how when any of the buffs disappear they are meant to respawn? sometimes they just dont. Twice scanner disappeared, once from the just it decided to disappear bug, and once bc i didnt pick it up in time, both times it did not respawn correctly and i lost the 25% chance on the panels. Also lost a run to the arc bullshit clipping through the safe room during damage while the door was closed but thats just rng/bad design, not a softlock.
@@EggyWeggyIII also the well spot on the oil drum isnt actually 100% safe and you can get one hit killed through it
@@bernardgaming7206 odd. I never encountered that. I guess an easy fix would be to just make sure you get every buff into a terminal before they despawn. As for the dps oil drum strat, I’m assuming you’re referring to the little tower in the middle of the arena? I found that doing dps in back left was 100% safe because it gave you so much time to react if you were going to die. But if you don’t want to use something like that I found that having something to kill the clones then playing the dps phase like the witness fight where you just dodge the arc wasn’t too bad and didn’t extend the required dps phases all that much. Like I said, there are issues but there are issues with every dungeon. The trick with a solo flawless is being able to adapt and problem solve to mitigate rng and bugs.
Tnx
i thought ghost of the deep was hard back when that one came out but this solo flawless is just annoying
In what way? The only annoying gripe I have with this dungeon is that you can’t swap buffs with one in a terminal. Other than that I never encountered a situation that was unfair or unjustly tedious.
Is this dungeon worth the dungeon key?
yes
You get two dungeons for the key
If its still on sale you should be able to pick up the Annual Pass version for like...$30? So if you needed to purchase this season as well as the dungeon keys then you might as well grab the annual pass upgrade which will also grant the next episode as well as the dungeon key (which I believe is for this dungeon and the one we get in Episode 3, I think?).
I'm soloing this for sure. Flawless might be too much for my patience. Depends on how my solo run goes. This is my favorite dungeon in this game by a lot. Spire is the worst content Bungie has ever made IMO.
Worse than GotD?
@@jacobhilker7722GotD is definitely worse
@@jacobhilker7722 ? I don't know what GotD is. At least spelled like that.
@@johnnymetonymicghosts of the deep
@@johnnymetonymic Ghosts of the Deep
Couldn't believe Bungie ran an appeal for the richest country in the world.
I really like your content but here is only about play titan with most cheesiest build. Next time make a guide after you solo flawless on all characters.
This is not a guide . A guide tells you to the mechanics of the encounter, don’t called it guide .
It’s just you with your build
this isnt a dungeon guide(even though he does touch on the mechanics), this is a guide to give tips for solo flawless..it aint that hard to use your brain :D
He literally says how to solo it… it’s not a guide on mechanics because at this point those are self explanatory