False Shooting Advice Even Steph Curry Gives (No Palm)

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    In this video I debunk one of the most common (yet potentially harmful) pieces of shooting advice that you hear in the world of basketball. I use pro/NBA examples of players like Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Kevin Durant, Damian Lillard, and Kyrie Irving as counter-examples. The list is endless. Enjoy!
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  • @ScotShotBasketball
    @ScotShotBasketball  6 лет назад +119

    The most important part of this video takes place at (3:43). That's where I show that Curry doesn't listen to his own advice - he clearly has the ball in his palm

    • @Hugosterk
      @Hugosterk 6 лет назад +23

      OK, i will do my best to explain the difference... and why the no palm is more important to teach youth, than adults or kids with enough strength to shoot. The reason we dont want the palm on the ball, is more to enforce good habits.. the reason we dont want the palm on there, is because it breeds inefficiency.. Also, the Pros, are on a different level, because of the sheer volume of practice you take, you end up practicing the other type of shots. the finger tip control gives a better control on release.. And if you have to use palm, then u use it to get control of the ball, as you gather for your shot. So instead of catch, gather, bring ball up and shoot. We cut all that out, and bring the ball directly to your shot pocket, in that whole phase, you can palm the ball, but from the point up to your release, the ball should be in finger-tips control, and held rather tightly. The pro's all swear by this, (p,s i played pro ball in Europe for 8 years, and coach as well) but the reason we need the finger tip control, is because when you go up for a shot, and you get bumped or there is contact, having the ball in the palm can affect the ball ( i know u said that the left is there to hold the ball, which is true... but, the strength you use in your left hand to hold the ball tightly, the more your right tries to compensate for that.. so the palm shoot becomes woefully inconsistent.. because your having to know adjust mid air, to the bump you received while gather for your shot.. when you have the ball griped tight with finger tip control, you can jump knowing even if you get bumped, you can still release the shot with a high level of accuracy. Again, i think the know palm thing, inst more about whats easiest for the kid/or person to learn, its just whats best for you as a basketball players, that way you learn the right technique once, and not to separate styles, which could end up stunting you when you strength does develop, or your hands grow, or you get a growth spurt.. btw, i dont have big hands and i use no palm in my teaching. Ive coached both styles, with palm and with finger tip control.
      In my classes, we sometimes get kids who havnt played at all, and kids who have played but werent good enough to make the team. the kids with zero experience all get the finger tip shot, and with the other kids, some have played to long with the palm technique, so i choose not to switch them. All the kids with the palm technique are my best shooters till about x mas.. but after xmas, almost all my kids with the finger release have caught up and by the end of the year, the positions are reversed... both arent wrong.. per say, but one leads to better path to elite status. Hope i helped with my two cents.. :) great debate material
      Greetings

    • @msarek4100
      @msarek4100 6 лет назад +1

      I agree with a lot of this, but with younger players, the difference I've found is based on the individual's hand and grip strength. Recently, I moved one player from fingertip only to palm as her shooting style directly parallels Curry's. I made they change because one day, when directly trying to show her proper finger hold, I noticed she couldn't clasp tightly. Instead of putting total emphasis on building hand strength, (which is part of her exercises), I opted to have her cradle the ball at the release. The accuracy of her shot went up by thirty percent. Before, she would have some wild misses. Now, those are gone and replaced by "good" misses i.e things that can be tweaked in-game. Grip strength is now one of my first player tests.

    • @ivopantev3640
      @ivopantev3640 6 лет назад +1

      Hey man, I've personally noticed that a lot of the bigger effective shooters from range, even not as deep as 3's, most of them shoot with a high release point and a lot of behind/overhead motion, probably a large chunk of them having modeled their shots to a Dirk Nowitzki. Thoughts?

    • @bojanmarkovic1717
      @bojanmarkovic1717 6 лет назад +1

      this is the point where your only 3 year playing basketball comes to wrong conclusions and that is the limit that you can reach by just watching other people play on videos... some of your conclusions were on point i cannot say.. but now you are just talking nonsense... have you ever tried to pull up from dribble? to shoot from screens? in full speed to catch ball and go into shot etc... well if you pick up ball with palm and not with finger tips, you will see what is going to happen...at the end if you don't see where is the problem.. ball on fingertips gives you that extra power in shot.. try it...

    • @DrewD748
      @DrewD748 6 лет назад

      Scot Shot Basketball you can push the ball with your palm and flick with your wrist with the ball rolling off your fingers, you can also push with your fingers and flick with your wrist letting the ball roll off your fingers. If you push with your fingers it will not let you relax your wrist as much, pushing with your palm allows you to relax your wrist more allowing a better flick and roll. Think of doing pushups on your finger tips vs your palms. A lot of players push the ball with their fingertips when they shoot floaters. However, I believe most players use a combination of palm and finger control due to the size of the ball. Think of throwing a baseball straight up in a basketball shooting form with just your palm and then flicking at the top vs holding the ball on your fingertips and doing the same thing. You have more control over the baseball when you use your finger tips but the ball is smaller. There is benefits to both, but why not utilize your whole hand to control the ball.

  • @weezyfbabytoochie8088
    @weezyfbabytoochie8088 6 лет назад +67

    Your attention to detail is impeccable

  • @antc232
    @antc232 6 лет назад +14

    Hands down best educational basketball youtuber.. love this channel

  • @rayallinkh
    @rayallinkh 6 лет назад +8

    Totally agree with you, I was a Ray Allen fan, so I shot with no palm for years. About 6 years ago I started to watch Steph Curry shoot, I realized that the advice he gave was completely different from his shot, so I tried to imitate his shot by palming the ball when I shoot. it makes my shot much more stable and relaxed, and my 3pt percentage increased by about 10% to 20%. Shooting off the dribble is also faster because I do not have to adjust the position of the ball to my fingertips.

  • @stevewatkins7144
    @stevewatkins7144 5 лет назад +4

    I am glad to see this video because I used to shoot with my palm and I was an excellent shooter. A good friend of mine who was also an excellent shooter told me the only thing wrong with my shot is I shot too much with my palm. I said 'Yes I use my palm because I control the ball better'. I am not very big and cannot come close to palming the ball. When I listened to shooting gurus and tried to get the ball off my palm, I never shot the ball as well.
    In addition, to providing stability, you can also generate more backspin when you hold the ball in your palm. From "Finding a Rhythm: Basketball Scoring Fundamentals Based on Science" page 66:
    "You produce more backspin by displacing the ball through a greater angle θ (defined in a picture). Since your fingertips remain fixed on the ball as you snap your wrist, the angular displacement θ is determined from the position of your fingertips just prior to the wrist snap compared to the position of your fingertips at the release point. If you hold the ball lower in your hand so it touches your palm, your fingertips will be higher up on the ball initially, resulting in a larger angular displacement. You also increase angular displacement by shooting high in the air because your fingertips end up lower on the ball at the release point."
    The more backspin you generate, the softer your shot.

  • @jaimejordan2013
    @jaimejordan2013 6 лет назад +61

    I’m 5’4 and small hands and I have no palm and it gives me so much control over the ball, it feels so much better and comfortable. When I try the palm it feels so bad it feels as if I have bad control over the basketball, my fingers and the backspin of the ball.

    • @StephenCurry-dx9il
      @StephenCurry-dx9il 6 лет назад +8

      J.Jordan8 yes thats right dont listen to this video men it destroy players if you shoot with just you palm you are inconsistent the point here is you cant stop the ball to touch you palm but before you shoot the ball you are transfering it to you fingertips

    • @475818
      @475818 6 лет назад +24

      listen there is no right way to shoot, I played lower devisions in Europe and coaches always tried to change my shot cos i palm the ball before release, finally this one coach let me shoot the way i want and shot 47% from 3 in the next 2 seasons so...if no palm works for you shoot like that, if palming works for you shoot with palming the ball, you always have to incorporate techniques with what works for you and i hope you find success, btw im 6'6 with small hands.

    • @jaimejordan2013
      @jaimejordan2013 6 лет назад +1

      Deyan T. Thanks man, I didn’t want to say that I was right, I just felt that palming the ball (spreading your fingers and leaving space between your hand and the ball) was so much more comfortable and I really can’t understand how people find putting your palm on the ball when shooting comfortable. Thanks for the advice. I wish I was 6’6

    • @475818
      @475818 6 лет назад

      just keep practicing and perfecting your form and i hope you'll make it

    • @constantineturibamwe8405
      @constantineturibamwe8405 6 лет назад

      what league do you play in

  • @lfcnbosceltics
    @lfcnbosceltics 6 лет назад +10

    This channel always provides the most logical and correct information.

  • @seanyang3067
    @seanyang3067 3 года назад +2

    This deserves more attention. I learnt that palming is ESSENTIAL the hard way.

  • @jimmieaversa4796
    @jimmieaversa4796 5 лет назад +2

    @Scot Shot I just found your videos a few days ago. We have very similar, if not identical takes on this stuff. I planned to make a youtube channel like yours as a side project in the future, but now there's no need. This is awesome man. Kudos to you!!!

    • @jimmieaversa4796
      @jimmieaversa4796 5 лет назад

      I do have a few more theories involving elbow angle, head positioning, and end of game shooting, but they are minor. If you ever want to brainstorm, please reach out. I love this stuff

  • @NepDaStep
    @NepDaStep 6 лет назад +258

    Steph doesn’t even know what he’s doing when he shooting 😔

    • @JonathanPaspula
      @JonathanPaspula 6 лет назад +76

      NepDaStep Dude makes it rain but doesn't understand his own shot 😂

    • @tvagaming9671
      @tvagaming9671 6 лет назад +66

      Jonathan Paspula He not gonna give away his Dagger shooting skill advice Lmaoo

    • @re1ive456
      @re1ive456 6 лет назад +49

      There’s no advice, it’s just putting up 1000 shots at the gym every day

    • @JonathanPaspula
      @JonathanPaspula 6 лет назад +39

      Actually, I think he understands his shot, in a sense, but its probably really hard to explain 🤔 can't easily teach greatness

    • @minfl6481
      @minfl6481 6 лет назад +6

      i think he does the no palm but only sometimes 🤔

  • @tiknik
    @tiknik 5 лет назад +1

    it’s always in my mind when shooting NO PALM NO PALM NO PALM but as i observe when i’m make a shot it all start in palm then the finger tips...your explanation is very true...😎😎😎...

  • @christopherhorn1161
    @christopherhorn1161 6 лет назад +120

    It comes down to hand strength/size. It can start on the palm...but there has to be a transfer to the tips of fingers.
    It's all about control, which requires power. Anyone can make shots, like horse...learn a technique that works for them.
    But when these guys are giving advice, it's about the ideal technique...not the technique we perfect in the backyard. All types of forms can make shots...it's about being perfect.
    Just because these pros have a technique, doesn't mean that there aren't flaws...some just perfected bad habits, doesn't mean they should be emulated.

    • @ScotShotBasketball
      @ScotShotBasketball  6 лет назад +31

      My main point is it ALWAYS transfers to the tip of the fingers anyway - the palm has nothing to do with the release. I’d also disagree that no palm is ideal technique - just look at Steph and Klay. Both palm shooters with very different techniques otherwise. How can it be ideal if several of the GOAT shooters don’t follow it? Either way, appreciate that you think about things and come back with reasoned comments 👍🏼

    • @kamrinmurphy6052
      @kamrinmurphy6052 6 лет назад +3

      If that same technique is used by almost all of the greatest shooters ever it should certainly be emulated, shouldn't it?

    • @christopherhorn1161
      @christopherhorn1161 6 лет назад

      Kamrin Murphy I train a 4th/5th grade team. We work more on set points and release points. Do a lot of hand work...heavy gloves, grip excercise...precisely to build strength in fingers. Helps in ball control in general

    • @christopherhorn1161
      @christopherhorn1161 6 лет назад

      Kamrin Murphy any form can work...we just want to train correctly

    • @JonathanPaspula
      @JonathanPaspula 6 лет назад +1

      Christopher Horn Damn sounds like a serious team, I wish them well!

  • @dannycooper8253
    @dannycooper8253 6 лет назад +41

    Yooooooo!!!!! I was just thinking of this EXACT video of Currys! This palm and fingertip thing is something that I've been thinking about for a while! I think I palm the ball at first but obviously release with the fingertips because it's almost impossible not to. But whenever I tried holding onto the ball before shooting with JUST the fingertips, it feels like the ball is going to fall out of my hand every single time! This is so true! This is one of the BIGGEST shooting misconceptions that there is in my opinion!

    • @killuakiza4365
      @killuakiza4365 6 лет назад +4

      same brah I'm surprised no one thoughg of this

  • @Capmybets
    @Capmybets 6 лет назад +6

    I think the most important advice to make new shooters understand is flight trajectory more than anything else. What they do before that ball is in the air varies from person to person. Think of shooting as in not just your arm, hand and palm but your whole body especially your fingers because its the last thing to touch the ball before it leaves you.

    • @staysolidshades254
      @staysolidshades254 Год назад

      Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
      dd

  • @jayount
    @jayount 5 лет назад +1

    Reasons why I use palm: 1. Helps get hand under ball, as opposed to behind the ball, which will give more arc. 2. More consistent for adding rotation to the ball as it has more distance to roll off the hand. 3. More consistent path rolling off the fingers, whereas with just fingers I have less control and it can roll off the sides of my fingers rather than straight (be sure to keep hands relaxed because too tense of a grip can result in the same roll off the sides or less rotation and consistency). 4. Longer range

  • @zaskarclf
    @zaskarclf 5 лет назад +15

    I don't know. I switched from palm to a little space and I found I do have more control with my fingers when I release. EG: A lot of times I can instinctively feel at the point of release that my stroke is slightly off and my fingers will adjust my shot, giving me more control.
    As with anything though, takes repetition for your body to build some muscle memory.

    • @Viilap
      @Viilap 11 месяцев назад

      This dude dont know what hes talkin about even mj said to keep the ball on your fingertips

  • @alex9046
    @alex9046 6 лет назад +11

    That Lillard shot is WEIRD

  • @HumanOptimization
    @HumanOptimization 5 лет назад

    Awesome work, brother!

  • @abenamer2534
    @abenamer2534 6 лет назад +8

    I uses no palm yet it doesnt really bother me. I think it just depends on person using it. I have a high percentage in perimeter and outside shooting.

  • @dolphinreacts532
    @dolphinreacts532 3 года назад +26

    Every person has a different form that's best for them. You can't expect an unathletic person with small hands to shoot with Jordan's form, or you can't ask Shaq to shoot like curry or Kyrie. Their wingspans or hand sizes are just completely different and their shot form is tailored to their own physical traits

    • @adamsharwani5617
      @adamsharwani5617 2 года назад

      This is very true, everyone has their own preference on how they shoot it's all different for everyone.

  • @morphos2
    @morphos2 6 лет назад

    Very good technical video! Thanks!

  • @mrejmanalo123
    @mrejmanalo123 6 лет назад +5

    Im a 6’1 Asian player and only palm shooting works for me because I have small hands 😊 I shoot 50% on most games(real tournament games) so I think this video makes sense 👍

  • @box4aza
    @box4aza 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the video! very helpful in the coaching of my kid!

    • @rbonnifet
      @rbonnifet 5 лет назад

      I wouldn't use this video when coaching your kid, you may end up hurting his/her shot.

  • @cryptogymbro
    @cryptogymbro 6 лет назад

    that's damn good review, been playing basketball 22 years, never even thought hard about palm and no palm it just comes natural or it doesn't in your shooting form. if you consistent with your shooting form for long time of period you should only do small adjustments from there. Also u have to have 2 or 3 different shooting forms nowadays to compete.

  • @idkausername1849
    @idkausername1849 6 лет назад +3

    Wow, my notification Bell worked!!

  • @mandmgaming6273
    @mandmgaming6273 6 лет назад +60

    So this is how i made a house with the ball

    • @rossHvids
      @rossHvids 6 лет назад +1

      Melvin 2x 😂

    • @jib4733
      @jib4733 6 лет назад +3

      Melvin 2x shaq made multiple

    • @kevinknox8123
      @kevinknox8123 5 лет назад +1

      @@jib4733 mansions😂

  • @Tomas-eo6gk
    @Tomas-eo6gk 6 лет назад

    Wtf I discovered this yesterday and I was shocked... And now you upload this, wtf man. I'm scared

  • @joseyuyarimilianmartinelli750
    @joseyuyarimilianmartinelli750 5 лет назад +2

    He doesnt teach how he shoots, he teaches how he was told to shoot

  • @phomjachana
    @phomjachana 6 лет назад +5

    6:55. His body doesn’t move as he goes up. He’s so smooth

    • @phantomdancer3279
      @phantomdancer3279 3 года назад

      its because he bends his knees prior and only dips while most players dip and bend knees at the same time which causes herky jerky movements.

  • @_Maxten
    @_Maxten 6 лет назад +21

    from my experience, what I learned from palming is that it prevents me from releasing the ball off my fingertips which gives me no rotation and an awkward extension. I've literally experienced releasing the ball off of the middle of my fingers instead of the tips

    • @1nopoint
      @1nopoint 6 лет назад +3

      Are you shooting the ball at a shallow angle? That's the only way I can see you releasing the ball at your mid-fingers. If that's the case, I'd recommend having a higher release point in your shot, and try to give your shot more of an arc to it, so it forces you to use your finger-tips.

    • @_Maxten
      @_Maxten 6 лет назад

      +AJ Ace A-N yes, actually. but I'm not saying i have a problem with palming, I'm saying I've noticed that thats what happens when I've done it in the past. and I have raised my set point slightly

    • @crimewavbeats5532
      @crimewavbeats5532 Год назад

      Saaaame

  • @tr1be253
    @tr1be253 5 лет назад +1

    I watched this guys vids and got all the knowledge i need for shooting i got 50 percent of my shooting knowledge from him and another 50 percent by just studying legends and underated players

  • @A08J
    @A08J Год назад +1

    I think the reason why he teaches something other than what he does is maybe because it took him a lot of time to adapt to his own shooting form and he's trying to give people a type of template to make the process of learning easier

    • @jojoprocess2820
      @jojoprocess2820 11 месяцев назад

      Problem is about 99% of people shoot with some part of their palm touching the basketball. Its just a bad template

  • @josiahhenry367
    @josiahhenry367 6 лет назад

    Love these vids!!! One question though, when do you think that curry head to toe will come out?

  • @ceja5307
    @ceja5307 4 года назад +2

    I'm shooting with a palm on basketball and it is true that it is not bad... It helps you to gain more control on the basketball especially for players with small hands😊

  • @runningguy7384
    @runningguy7384 6 лет назад +3

    Could you do a video on leg extension? I notice some players in the NBA don't extend their legs all the way out on their jumpshots. An example would be Kemba Walker.

  • @erikdesk2753
    @erikdesk2753 Год назад

    This is very good video!! I was confused while studying shooting why Curry says no palm. But his shots that I study in slow motion in the court is palm.. For me, personally, I have much much higher control with palm. But all these years everyone’s saying no palm, so I didn’t get it.

  • @davecheng9403
    @davecheng9403 6 лет назад +1

    I cannot agree more. Palming fixed my chicken-wing and hitch. I cannot palm a ball, so I also agree it makes smaller hand shooters shoot better.

  • @thomascastro2900
    @thomascastro2900 10 месяцев назад

    I agree that not all ball shooters have the same size of hand. You can also try to shoot the ball using your palm and whichever of the two techniques you can shoot more, then go with that.

  • @FriedlandM
    @FriedlandM 2 года назад

    Excellent video.

  • @kingbucketz182
    @kingbucketz182 6 лет назад +9

    It’s always better to learn from what a person does rather than what they tell you. I’ve never seen curry shoot without palming the ball before release, Even when he was at Davison.

  • @Victor-bm3ie
    @Victor-bm3ie 3 года назад +1

    Oh my god! finally someone tell the truth, I’ve been misguided how to shoot for my entire life, I will change my shooting.

  • @Go4Yourz
    @Go4Yourz 2 года назад +1

    Random question (maybe there’s a video on this if so please link) when the ball is released do you watch the flight of the ball or remain focused on the rim.

  • @Vincent-nn6gq
    @Vincent-nn6gq Год назад

    these different types of shooting techniques just tells you that you gotta show whichever way is comfortable and works best for you. find your own shot, but feel free to implement some techniques from the greats as well

  • @michaeljohnsonofficial
    @michaeljohnsonofficial 6 лет назад +3

    you can find videos of curry doing both. Every athlete does it right sometimes and wrong sometimes.

  • @vw9659
    @vw9659 4 года назад

    The fact that some coaches and players can't explain well why the palm is bad doesn't mean the palm isn't bad. There is very limited good scientific research on what makes an ideal shot. So we go mostly on what MOST great shooters do. But some things are hard to see precisely. And a small number get by with bad technique. I would contend that most great shooters do NOT have the middle of the palm in contact with the ball during the final preparation and release motion. They have the ball resting on the metacarpophalangeal joints and the fingers. The fact that YOU have a technique that you think relies on your palm, and trying to change it made your shot worse, doesn't tell us much. I have had a technique since I was a kid that doesn't rely on my palm, and experimenting with trying to let the ball rest in my palm made it worse. But for teaching I go on what MOST great shooters do - no palm.

  • @tiismuna
    @tiismuna 3 года назад

    Shooting is how you direct the ball going to the hoop.
    That's why the main factor is the follow through.
    Try to shoot at the nearest to the hoop. then shoot with only your arm.
    That'd be your form. As you go further just push it flowing from the feet up to the fingertips.

  • @openttd2.035
    @openttd2.035 6 лет назад +2

    People always try to change my form. I been playing for 2 and a half years and with my form i became a damn good shooter in my opinion

  • @ebrahimalfardan8823
    @ebrahimalfardan8823 5 лет назад +4

    I think your way off on this one, no palm does not mean that your palm should never touch the ball, this is an overexageration used by coaches to get their point accross. Regardless of whether the ball touches your palm or not, what matters is that your finger tips should have the strongest contact with the ball at all times, thereby controlling the ball. They should contact the ball in the same spot from gather to release.
    If the ball rolls off the palms towards the fingers - as you said, the motion becomes jerky and unpredictable and:
    1. The rolling motion is in the opposite direction to the ball trajectory which kills momentum
    2. you cant really tell whether it will over or under roll.
    3. Your fingertips might land in uncomfortable spots in relation to the seems.
    4. Your shots will be all over the place.
    Moreover, it is WAY easier to catch a ball with your fingers than with your palm, this is for the same reason it is easier to balance a ball on the rim of a really really SMALL cup than on a HUGE flat surface: the ball needs a concave resting place mimiced multiple contact points and alot of negative space in between otherwise ball tends to roll off of flatter surfaces. Also, catching the ball with your palm might cause it to bounce off but the finger joints provide dampening to the contact thereby controlling the ball and reducing lost catches.
    The only advantage to catching the ball on the palm is that it reduces broken finger injuries but that is it.
    Lastly, you should create spin from the action of a controlled wrist flick at the very end of contact not by rolling the ball in you palm mid-shot as the may result in your fingers getting caught in the seems which will either change the direction, kill the spin or both.

    • @gs2tab
      @gs2tab 5 лет назад +1

      "this is an overexaggeration used by coaches to get their point across". Agreed, but then you look how this exaggerated advice transfers to students of the game, ala 2:24 with a very unnatural exaggerated grip, and it is clear that the advice the way it is presented is ambiguous and often downright damaging.

    • @mpetkovic26
      @mpetkovic26 5 лет назад +1

      You nailed that one, all those things are spot when you are pulling up ball its always closer and closer to the hoop, and if you grip it with palms that means that it need to go backwards so you need extra force to apply on shot, and I'd like to add one more thing you add one more variable and that is timing(position of ball relative to fingertips from which you start release motion)

    • @kenny8712
      @kenny8712 3 года назад

      actually one motion uses palm, and two motion uses fingers

  • @ishmeetsingh5672
    @ishmeetsingh5672 6 лет назад

    I'm a good shooter and I rest the ball with equal holding pressure on my first thumb pad, first 3 pads of my other four fingers, and big pads between fingers and lower pads. I keep hand comfortably spread out without stretching to almost have a ball like shape

    • @ishmeetsingh5672
      @ishmeetsingh5672 6 лет назад

      So basically everything touches the ball evenly expect where the rest of the Palm starts dipping

  • @erikescamilla9985
    @erikescamilla9985 6 лет назад

    Genius. Mind blown 🤯

  • @JYSBLN670
    @JYSBLN670 6 лет назад

    Great break down, explaining theory on shoot, I also suggests, that footing, meaning legs goes into account while shooting, correct?

  • @shadiest_
    @shadiest_ 2 года назад +1

    I would recommend some palm on the ball. If you let the ball rest on your whole palm there are a number of issues that could come from doing this. From my experience placing the ball on the top of my palm just below the base of my fingers and leaving a tiny gap at the bottom of my palm gives me enough control and balance. palm is good, but not too much, same with fingers.

  • @coachallennba
    @coachallennba 3 года назад

    yes everyone has different forms, but one thing stays consistent you will have more control over the ball when you get fouled if you use your finger tips and not your palm

  • @ShihabPersonalFinance
    @ShihabPersonalFinance 4 года назад

    which finger/s do you release with?

  • @sergek1332
    @sergek1332 6 лет назад +1

    Great content! Can You make A Video about your shooting mechanics?

    • @ScotShotBasketball
      @ScotShotBasketball  6 лет назад +2

      Saving it for a milestone... either 50k or 100k subs. Leaning towards 100k

    • @brrrloading
      @brrrloading 6 лет назад

      Scot Shot Basketball subs are important I see

  • @makgeoff
    @makgeoff 4 месяца назад

    The biggest problem of tips about shooting with fingers only is not about the palm (as people just look at or talk about this last part) One needs to look at the full motion as it starts from legs > hips > chest > shoulders > arms then to the hand, which is palm + fingers. Where the force is generated is crucial. Then you have to have a loose forearm & wrist for guidance, & yes, the final release should go from palm to fingers. So Curry is talking about the release. You can try to use you palm only without fingers to release you get no touch & feel nor control of the direction.

  • @yjang5193
    @yjang5193 6 лет назад

    The conclusion is so true...

  • @urielwong
    @urielwong 6 лет назад

    Both Kyrie and Curry to some degree "thumb" the ball with their off hand. Probably not enough NBA players to make the case for thumbing, but Curry does it, so maybe my thumbing habit was okay when I was young! IMO, it's okay to learn as we are taught with the palm air gap. Over time, if we begin to change and become palm shooters that's okay as long as we make the shot. If we end up keeping the air gap, that's totally okay too -- whatever helps to keep the shot consistent for the individual. If you can thumb the ball at a good percentage, I say go for it!... but maybe your shooting-coach may not like it, lol. Great video!

  • @Dante-qn3cx
    @Dante-qn3cx 3 года назад +1

    finally someone who says something meaningful. totally, everyone else says something that does not apply in reality, lillard the greatest example of that, his range and effectiveness come from just that

  • @liukang85
    @liukang85 3 года назад +1

    "Curry doesn't DO what he says!" Thanks, was waiting for the reality check. I wonder if he's teaching others wrong in purpose 🤣

  • @MrUlasTR
    @MrUlasTR 5 лет назад +1

    One thing, I believe, you fail to understand is that this 'no palm' advice is about the feeling of the shot rather than the actual technique of the shot. It encourages and educates you and your mind to not depend on your palm to give the ball a forward thrust -which would result in an awfully flat and misfired shot- and to always use your fingers to control and release the ball in various shooting scenarios (hand in the face, drifting left or right, fadeaway shot, contested etc.) It is more about the mind than the movement. That's why all these elite shooters keep talking about the same 'no palm' rule because they believe they don't use their palms, when in reality they do. So I believe that, as a basketball player myself, you should exclude the palm from 'rules and steps of shooting' in your mind, but it will still be there and that's fine.

  • @vicswrld
    @vicswrld 6 лет назад +43

    Who better steph or Steve Nash ? I'd rather have curry, no hate

    • @WadeWalker22
      @WadeWalker22 6 лет назад +26

      V- Card shouldn’t even be a debate Steve said himself curry is the most skill player he has ever seen

    • @Ajbrillz
      @Ajbrillz 6 лет назад +2

      V- Card TBH it's cirry

    • @VoxGav-bd9rc
      @VoxGav-bd9rc 6 лет назад +12

      V- Card Curry by far. Nash was an efficient three point shooter on low volume. Curry has the range, efficiency, and volume.

    • @thecao4407
      @thecao4407 6 лет назад

      IRUNoflike Naruto the most skilled player of all time is Allen Iverson and no one else

    • @VoxGav-bd9rc
      @VoxGav-bd9rc 6 лет назад +5

      TheCao Defense? Post moves? Three point shot? Footwork? Efficiency? No?

  • @Danxiong
    @Danxiong 5 лет назад +3

    Didn’t Steph Curry also said you should square up your feet when shooting? LOL
    Terrible advice

  • @illlanoize23
    @illlanoize23 4 года назад +1

    Bruh kawhis hands really are HUGE

  • @LuciORLuciano
    @LuciORLuciano 6 лет назад +1

    Preach, preach!!!

  • @Brightbeyond
    @Brightbeyond 3 года назад +1

    Hi i'm 36 yrs from Thailand ( im about 5'6) i have some issue about my shooting form too. Wonder between two methods "palm" or "no palm" your advices help me a lot. Appreciate!!
    Ps. I can't make three pointers. Lol

  • @moseschan5149
    @moseschan5149 5 лет назад

    I totally agree with what you said

  • @ihy_mari8338
    @ihy_mari8338 2 года назад +1

    no palm gives more spin and straightness on the shot

  • @matthew-ox5zx
    @matthew-ox5zx 5 лет назад +1

    It's way easier shooting with your fingertips where you can control the ball. Your palm doesn't help you grip the ball

  • @Void-ib9rt
    @Void-ib9rt Год назад

    As long as your palm and finger are touching the ball. Pistol Peter does a great shooting video

  • @afrosamurai125
    @afrosamurai125 6 лет назад +5

    Can you do a head to toe for Kawhi Leonard?

  • @rayallensjumper
    @rayallensjumper 6 лет назад +1

    Let it roll off of ur palm and then transition it to ur finger that is in the middle of the ball (split finger like PG or middle finger like KD)

  • @dillonscottspeightvlogs5056
    @dillonscottspeightvlogs5056 6 лет назад

    All things being equal; however, I want my shot to be as ready as possible as quick as possible. If I didn't have to bend my knees to ready my shot (hypothetically) then I would have the quickest shot ever. If I don't need the ball to touch my palm to generate greater power, then I wont. BUT I will "cheat" to get extra power... say in an NBA game. that may account for those clips you showed. Great vid btw interesting af.

  • @user-lb5vt4ll9c
    @user-lb5vt4ll9c 5 лет назад

    Good call

  • @aldridgemichaelledesma1232
    @aldridgemichaelledesma1232 5 лет назад

    palm running thru your fingertips is just a guide...the most important factor in shooting must come from a well balanced strong LEGS. try this and you'll realize the ball becomes lighter when you flick it releasing the ball. then shooting becomes lighter, consistent and easy.

  • @williamdortch6441
    @williamdortch6441 6 лет назад

    Shooting with your fingers tips is correct because one you get use to shooting with your fingers tips actually your hand will adjust to how you shoot. It's all about how you want to grip the ball and Steph is comfortable with the palm rotation.

  • @burger1113
    @burger1113 6 лет назад

    Hmm now that's interesting...
    Obviously, taller, stronger guys might have no problem with just the fingers.
    And even guys with big hand might have problems when shooting from deep, or fading away.
    Thanks for a nice heads up.

  • @axlegallardo
    @axlegallardo 5 лет назад

    What are your thoughts of Dr. Tom Amberry's 7 Step Technique?

  • @lemongavine
    @lemongavine 5 лет назад +1

    Shaq shot his foul shots without using his palm. Case closed.

  • @Novafan
    @Novafan 6 лет назад +1

    you should do a video on players with poor shot mechanics that shoot very well

    • @_j_t_p_
      @_j_t_p_ 6 лет назад +1

      best example ever is shawn marion. reggie miller had bad hand placement.. kidd gilchrist has a famously bad form as well

  • @jastew8814
    @jastew8814 2 года назад

    Does this also apply to guide hand?

  • @tmizzle89
    @tmizzle89 2 года назад

    They are saying that the ball is mainly balanced on you fingers when shooting. Not that you don't ever touch at all. Lillard is the only one who shoots otherwise

  • @tagiouscha7223
    @tagiouscha7223 6 лет назад +1

    7:53 are those baseball gloves leonard have on? so out of proportion. life is not fair.

  • @marcmanosa8871
    @marcmanosa8871 3 года назад

    To be honest, I actually shoot better without palming the ball. Palming it kinda messes my shot. But I think that depends on the offensive player which way he’s comfortable…..

  • @the_og_me_216
    @the_og_me_216 6 лет назад +1

    Can you do a head to toe on Victor oladipo and Kevin Durant.

  • @pinoyheartbeat7245
    @pinoyheartbeat7245 6 лет назад

    Listen to this guy. He's better than Curry and all the no-palm shooters out there.

  • @gsw3049
    @gsw3049 5 лет назад

    I'm mind blown. Wow

  • @enemyofthestatevcdking5982
    @enemyofthestatevcdking5982 6 лет назад +1

    To be fair...Rauf was teaching the most fundamental beginner shot...

  • @mildyproductive9726
    @mildyproductive9726 6 лет назад

    Next up, do a vid on dribbling. It's super interesting to me how bad are the modern ideas/concepts regarding dribbling. There is almost only bad advice, out there. Literally, some of the expert advice and videos are exactly backwards and flawed for obvious reasons.

  • @tenacious7777
    @tenacious7777 5 лет назад

    Do bicep exercises to increase range it worked with me

  • @JayFlacko
    @JayFlacko 2 года назад

    3:21 “everyone whose ever shot a basketball has a flick when they shoot” is not true/flawed in itself . I play at my local parks and gyms and am a solid shooter so lots of ppl have come up to me and ask me to shoe em how to shoot, kids usually shoot with the palm like said in the vid because there trying to use upper body instead of leg strength and flow/have a super stiff flick because of them moreso pushing the ball instead of shooting then u got the strong guys who also use there power to get the ball off but tend to palm the ball and hold it awkwardly then flick after the ball has already been released just because they know that flick is supposed to be there and it actually isn’t affecting there shots. Teaching no palm especially at first is just like teach the two finger technique so they get the ball to come off there pointer and middle finger right before the ball is fully released and teach thumb flickers to simply shoot with one hand or only use 3 fingers on your guide hand to get rid of the thumb flick. It’s to teach good and consistent properties in your shot that you can keep the same almost every single time you shoot the ball to get a consistent shot. Also if u asked shooting coach’s/trainers about Stephs shot before 2013 they’d see a bunch of things wrong with it from how high he jumps, how he lands, how close the ball is to his face, etc. and he’s the greatest to ever do it so it makes sense to see flaws in how he teaches the shot aswell as it was even unorthodox for ppl to shoot 1motion before he made it famous. This stuff is all based on comfortability for your archetype

  • @Charmander009
    @Charmander009 6 лет назад

    Yea I agree . Shooting the ball wit all finger tips feels like I’m shooting like Shaq. No control

    • @rbonnifet
      @rbonnifet 5 лет назад

      You shouldn't be shooting with finger tips, you should be using your finder pads.

  • @lordsanada3121
    @lordsanada3121 6 лет назад

    I was always told to have ball on palm, however, fingertips gave me a better shot

  • @shaunbang
    @shaunbang 3 года назад

    I think the NBA and coaches just say it wrong as they come off as if they want players to never have their palm on the ball when it’s only for the actual shot that you should use the palm but stabilizing and controlling the ball before the shooting motion begins is completely okay and necessary for smaller hands. If not palming was so imperative then we wouldn’t have horrible shooters like shaq or Dwight Howard that always hold and use the ball without a palm because they’re so big. A good example to counteract those two guys would be Kawhi Leonard who had equally big hands but has excellent shooting and doesn’t shooting with just his fingertips like Shaq or Dwight which watching those guys free throws shoes a really clear example

  • @SoCaliGuyHB394
    @SoCaliGuyHB394 5 лет назад

    shooting is 'mentally' a SHOTPUT motion...not a CATAPULT motion that most average players employ. Every shot has the SAME identical arc...the HEIGHT of the arc determines distance. SQUARELY face the rim..use your thigh muscle momentum to AIM. Never jump then shoot....accurate shooting is ALL one continuous fluid motion. EOS

  • @richardj6593
    @richardj6593 3 года назад

    Interesting that none of the folks you called out did not defend their statements

  • @taisou7271
    @taisou7271 5 лет назад

    so... because the ball rolls up from the palm to their fingertips before the shot you're saying they (Steph Curry... Reggie Miller... etc.) are not practicing what the preach when they say shoot from their fingertips? ..... um.... wow... glad you made a video to clarify that "mistake"...

  • @jayp8798
    @jayp8798 5 лет назад

    These guys will not tell you exactly what their secret is in being a consistent shooter ... find it yourself your where you are most comfortable and consistent but don’t ignore the basics ...

  • @Go4Yourz
    @Go4Yourz 2 года назад

    I don’t do the base of my palm. The ball sits on the top of my palm. Then the ball rolls to my finger tips.

  • @nickcarlogayoma3955
    @nickcarlogayoma3955 5 лет назад

    Every player has its own style and fingertip style shot is a quikshot shot