John's Prologue - Part 1
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- John 1:1-5 is John's introductory statement to his Gospel account and from verses 1 to 5 John tells us what he will be describing in his Gospel. The beginning in question is the beginning of the Christian faith by Jesus Christ who authored our faith by means of his ministry from his baptism by John to his death and resurrection. In his ministry, Jesus proclaimed the word of God he received at the Jordan river by the Spirit when heaven was opened to him. The word proclaimed through Jesus was God the Father Himself, the word was God. The man Jesus made the Father known to us; the word was God. No one has ever seen God but the fleshly man Jesus declared HIM, the Father. The word proclaimed by Jesus was God, that is, making the Father known to the world. Everything which came to pass in this beginning, the ministry of Jesus, did come to pass through the word proclaimed by Jesus and nothing came to pass apart from the word proclaimed by Jesus.
John uses Genesis imagery not to set the time frame for what is occurring at John 1:1 but because he is about to describe how the new creation began. The beginning is the ministry of our Lord Jesus Christ which is how the Christian faith began; he is the author of our faith, and because of his ministry we can be new creations in Christ. He is the beginning, the firstfruits of the new creation of God. We can be new creations because there now is a new creation for us to be new creations in, the new creation he inaugerated by his ministry. Jesus proclaimed the word he received in the Spirit at the Jordan and the word proclaimed through Jesus was God the Father Himself manifesting Himself to the world.
This fits well with Isaiah:
“ I have put my words in your mouth,
and have covered you in the shadow of my hand, that I may PLANT THE HEAVENS and LAY THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH and tell Zion, ‘You are my people.’”
- Isaiah 51:16
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“The Lord Yahweh’s Spirit is on me;
because Yahweh has anointed me to PREACH good news.........that they may be called trees of righteousness, the PLANTING of Yahweh, that he may be glorified.”
-Isaiah 61:1,3
@@jboogie722 Interpretation wise, as a reading of the passage, yes. A reference to Jesus, no.
You put so much work into your videos . . . it's much appreciated!
Thank you.
I think a comment of mine might have given him the nudge to make this one.
@@anissueofursincerity well, if that's the case, I'm glad you made that comment!
This is the truth! God bless you brother.
Thank you, highly appreciated, brother Kel! The message is very clear and comprehensive.
You are very welcome
Bro Kel first I have been blessed by your Ministry! I thank God for your labor in studying Gods word and the understanding God has revealed to you! Keep on you are truly a blessing to the body of Christ!🙏🏿
Be faithful to him.
thanks again brother kel for your precious works .God bless you
Yes, yes Kel.... Praise God... This message is excellent... I am of Greek parents & have an understanding of the Greek language... & the way John expresses his prologue is typical how us Greeks do in everyday language today.. Trinitarians, try take up lessons in the Greek language... Obviously Kel, the Greek language you have studied a bit.. Well the New Testament was written in Greek, so there you go.. Lots of male/female words in Greek... Spot on Kel.. Never give up... Your work is important... God Bless.. John. Australia
Learning some basic Greek and grammar rules is a kind of an eye opener. And having in mind the fact that grammatically Greek and English are quite distinct it is a must for one to dig into it to comprhend the original meaning of the texts.
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Good thought process. Good video.
When he approached Jerusalem, he saw the city and wept over it, saying, “If you had known in this day, even you, the things which make for peace! But now they have been hidden from your eyes. For the days will come upon you when your enemies will throw up a barricade against you, and surround you and hem you in on every side, and they will level you to the ground and your children within you, and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not recognize the time of your visitation.”
Luke 19:41-44
Is he talking about 70 CE here?
In the beginning was the Father and the Father was God!
Absolutely valid!
Amen
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Hi Kel, the more I watch and digest the information in this three part series, I’m beginning to think this is the very intent of the prologue. Thank you for your work in the lord. This is by far the best interpretation of John’s prologue I’ve heard thus far.
The only thing I slightly disagree with is your interpretation of John 1:1b and the word pros. While I think this interpretation is in fact plausible I’ve heard another that is I think more accurate. Although pros can mean with, it’s really not the primary meaning of the word. Most of the time it’s used it means something that is to, towards or in reference to someone or something. For instance at Luke 20:19 it says how the Jews understood how the parables spoken by Jesus was “about” them. Some translations say “referred” to or something like that. I think this best captures the meaning of the word. (See Hebrews 2:17; 5:1; 2 Peter 1:3; )
By the way the words at Hebrews literally says the same as John 1:1b “pros ton theon” and in both instances it says “in reference to God” or “pertaining to God” but not in John 1:1b. I wonder why.......
So in John 1:1b I think John is saying that the word is and/or can be translated as either:
pertaining to God
about God
In reference to God
Directed towards God
Etc
I think this fits better and explains why in the very next verse John says “and the word was God” or literally “and God was the word”. This I think makes the most sense in the immediate context and the context of the whole gospel of John.
God bless brother. Keep the videos coming!!!!
I thank God for you brother studying this topic how God revealed his truth of his word! I am being Bless over and over as have listened t!o your vedeos over and over! May God bless you to reach many brethren with this understanding God has revealed to you! God Bless you my brother!
Anton LaVey was quoted saying ,"Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years!" And he was correct. Satan tempted the church to rely on their own wisdom and interpretations of scripture and it culminated at Nicea. Now the true believers are stuck in a world where we are the minorities, and religious Christians dominate the world with their Trinity and -ologies, -isms, -ists, and -ans. Religion is dominated by the traditions of men and not the laws of God. But fear not, God is with us, and no lie like the Trinity can defeat the one true God. I can imagine Jesus sitting at his Father's right hand and saying, "Father, they have taken the message you gave me and made 3 Gods". And I can imagine God saying something like, "My son, I am well pleased with you, you did as I asked, they heard my word and yet they didn't hear my word, so I will pour out my wrath on them for not believing that I am one". Jesus once talked about how he came to give sight to the blind, and he told the Jews that because they say they see, there sin remains. True believers admit we were once blind, we believed the lie, but Jesus gave us sight so we now see the truth. God bless all his followers, may he give us wisdom and strength for his namesake
It adds significance to John 19:30 - "it is finished".
Is John saying that Jesus is currently at the time he speaking in the bosom of God? Is that a reference to the Risen Christ after Resurrection?
John 1:1 the end of the verse in the Greek is "God was the word" not "the word was God".
Do you realize that word order in Greek does not work the same as English?
@@TheTrinityDelusion Yes I do. I see John 1: 1-2 as circular hebrew thought. Every word YHWH spoke was him and would never come back void but will go as it was purposed. Not arguing, just a different view. What you have set forth here is very sound.
@@therealtruth777 Isaiah 55:11 is very instructive for understanding the Gospel of John.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Yes I would agree.
The word was a god, or divine. I have an orthodox Coptic gospel written before a century, even they are orthodox but wrote that the word was (a god : إلها) and recently have changed it to (God/Allah : الله). So the real translation is (a god) not (God) himself.
Eye opening. What translation do you use? The Young's Literal in Bible hub is different. And so if I am understanding correctly you are saying God created the original world, Earth, Adam, Eve, everything and John is speaking of Jesus and the Word of God is with Him and is expressing this as Gods new creation through Jesus 2000 years ago, not in the 1st creation of the universe and us. Sorry if my words didn't come out exactly right, hopefully you understand what I mean.
Yes, sounds like what I am saying? I don't use any one translation.
I have spent a considerable amount of time more; immersed in this teaching and dove deeply into the study that you have presented. It is really opened my eyes to seeing and reading and understanding the Bible in Truth. As I am learning to look up the Greek words in Strong's myself I can see how a translator would spin his translation to convey the trinitarian pagan belief system. I always used to wonder at this passage in John. I thought, if Jesus was the Word how did the creation of the world happen exactly? Did God use Jesus to create for Him in Genesis and then where did Jesus go? So Why did God need a surrogate to create for Him? None of it made sense. Because God says over and over in the OT; He is the only One, Alone who Is and so on. Many were destroyed because of idolatry. It didn't make sense for there to be a 3 in one. The living God and His Word (the Bible) are starting to really come alive and make sense. So much of the confusion is disappearing. Maybe this is Satan's plan all along... to confuse in order to discredit. I just feel bad for those "believers" who are sincerely loving Jesus and yet cannot see the truth.
@@cherb3248 There is no "Satan's plan". The concept isn't in the Bible.
@@zamiel3 Hey, here you are again! But you are mistaken here again; Revelation 12:9 "So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, WHO IS MISLEADING the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. " He is misleading the people of the earth. That is is plan
Brother, you are putting out several videos....do you believe the time is near, these are the beginning of sorrows?
The truth needs to be proclaimed so that the true children of God have made themselves ready.
@@TheTrinityDelusion keep doing what you do!!! It is my hope many wake up and hear the word of God. I truly hope so....God Bless!
But are you saying that the spoken word of Genesis 1 is what became flesh when Jesus was conceived or born? I know you don't believe the word was an actual being, but are you saying that whatever substance the spoken word of the father is what became a baby?
God made a word of promise concerning the Messiah. That word became flesh, fulfillment. No, I'm not saying the spoken word of God became a baby. The word became flesh when that flesh fulfilled the word by doing it.
In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the word was God. Is this even possible? How can Jesus be a thought and be the plan that God had in mind, but then also be God??????????....Was this first verse maybe mistranslated/misinterpreted, or did someone purposely alter the original scripture. How can John write this and later on say that the word became flesh, insinuating that God became flesh, but then in his first letter he writes, ''He who does not confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh is not from God, and is in fact an antichrist, insinuating that not God but Jesus Christ came in the flesh. Just remember that in the Greek, the term, ''the anointed one'', is Christ, and in the Hebrew, it is Messiah. In any list of names, attributes and offices, that trinitarians might want to produce, you will not find the name MESSIAH. Messiah is an epithet only used for Jesus. THIS PROVES THAT THE TRINITY IS FAKE.
The word of John 1:1 is the word God gave to Jesus at the Jordan. It was his bread of life for resurrection life and by keeping this word the Father was made known to the world.
Genesis 1 v 1 and 2 seem to make better sense to me if read as follows: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, and the earth (which God had already made in the beginning) was without form and void. etc.
If you read it your way you have: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. This is how: and the earth was without form and void etc. etc. Doesn't seem right to me.
Is this what you mean or have I misunderstood you.
In the beginning in Genesis is also translated as chief and firstfruits, so " in the" is added. In other places it is "in the beginning of the reign of Zedekiah" "the Lord possessed me in the beginning of his ways" These and other places could be periods, but not necessarily so. The context would have to be looked at.
What are you talking about?
@@zamiel3 I can't remember, it was 9 months ago.
Some trinity discussions get very science fictiony here. "God"----the three divine persons (although only two of them are identified her in John 1----are outside of time, since the creation---the universe including TIME, which is an aspect of the created universe, a created thing. The Father and the Son are loving each other independent of anything created, which is the only way that "God is love". But in that eternity, 'the eternal now', outside of time. You cannot have a "was" because there is no creation .
That's right.
Question for you: Is Jesus Israel?
He was the King of Israel. All Israel summed up in their King.
@@TheTrinityDelusion How are you coming to the conclusion, that Jesus the king of Israel?
Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”
Jesus never publicly claimed to be the king of Israel, nor the Messiah. Jesus didn't bring back the lost tribes, or restore the nation of Israel. Nor, was Jesus portrayed, or talked about, as the king of Israel, until his trial and crucifixion. Which was done in a mocking tone. Even the passages referring to Jesus entering Jerusalem, and the crowd commenting about "and the King of Israel", is questionable. As it is dependent upon the translation. If they are referring to God as the king, or Jesus as the king.
@@zamiel3 "How are you coming to the conclusion, that Jesus the king of Israel?"
Oh maybe from verses like this:
“Where is He who has been born King of the Jews?" Matthew 2:2
Now Jesus stood before the governor, and the governor questioned Him, saying, “Are You the King of the Jews?” And Jesus said to him, “It is as you say.” Matthew 27:11
And above His head they put up the charge against Him which read, “THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.” Matthew 27:37
Nathanael answered Him, “Rabbi, You are the Son of God; You are the King of Israel.”
John 1:49
@@TheTrinityDelusion
Jesus saying otherwise, is negated by an accusation he does not confirm, a mocking, and an opinion of one person? What happened to not reading one verse, into another?
You accuse Trinitarians of assuming, but here you come assuming that John's Gospel must start talking about Jesus's ministry. Matthew doesn't start off talking about Jesus's ministry, but his geneology.
I didn't have to assume. Look again.
So? what's the point?
@@ounkwon6442 Simple, The Trinity Delusion falsely assumes that a beginning account in the gospel according to John must begin with Jesus's Ministry when Matthew doesn't begin with Jesus's ministry but his genealogy from Abraham. Luke doesn't begin with the ministry of Jesus, but the birth of John the herald of Jesus followed by the birth of Jesus. Two of the other three gospels begin with the beginnings of Jesus other than his ministry. The Trinity Delusion makes an assumption assertion without actual evidence.
@Dominic What you call textual evidence is just textual confusion. You assume you can just take your favorite meaning of the word beginning used by other authors in other books and apply it directly to this author in this book. Not how the word beginning works in the Bible. What does the beginning mean in 1 John 3:8, or 1 John 3:11? What does beginning mean in John 8:25 and John 8:44? If you have eyes you'll see the beginning means different things to the same author within the same book within the same chapter. Only context determines the meaning. We won't even talk about what the beginning means in John's Revelation. In John 1 the context is the beginning when all things, came to be through the Word that was with God and that was a god.
@Dominic The term, "John's prologue" is not found anywhere in the Bible. I'm just curious. How do you define John's prologue?
Non Trinitarian: words...........
(Greek) Orthodox: millions of miracles 2000 years non stop
Millions of imagined miracles?
@@TheTrinityDelusion I don't remember seeing you around when I became an eyewitness my self!
Congratulations on your confidence though speaking on behalf of millions of people!
Unless you are an atheist, then it all makes perfect sense. Are you an atheist? If not, what exactly are you then (if you want to share of course)?
@@TisDoulos So you didn't listen to the video aye? You wouldn't have needed to ask that question. Do tell, what "millions of miracles" did you witness?