One of These 4 Nineties Convertibles Is a REAL DOG On The Race Track & It's Not The One You Think!
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The Ford Mustang: Inspiring clear-headed reasonable people to drive like hooligans since 1964. Man, I love ‘em! Tommy going all “Blues Brothers” just makes me smile.
No truer words have ever been said! I've had three including my current 96 gt convertible. I feel 18 again when I get in it!
The smiles on Tommy’s face says it all. The mustang is the most squirrelly, entertaining, best sounding, and light up the rear tires at any time. Even with only 250ish hp. Mustang scores as the best sports car of this bunch. And it’s the most Joe Sixpack, rambunctious and irresponsible teenager fun car of the bunch. Perfect.
215hp
no,
this needs an update and do it again in 6 months next spring with everyone spending about 2500$ for whatever he wants to improve to get a better result , repair, new supesnsion, new tires and whatever it might take to improve the performance but of cause staying in the budget.
This is a legend , this collection of 80s cars and a sack full of nice memories.
Still not beating the camry
90s
@@guyod1 The Mustang would. 2500 will buy a lot of aftermarket for that car. You could get slotted rotors with sport pads to improve brakes, subframe connectors, upgraded shocks, throttle body, and better tires, and probably still have some cash left over. The other cars=no chance.
@@thehardway8197 not a chance. Would take double that in parts. To get close to v6 camry. Quadruple if you can't install parts
yourself. For a vehicle with no reliability.
@@guyod1 You're high, dude. The 4.6 is one of the most reliable V8 engines on the planet. I've had 2 work trucks that went over 300k w/o a rebuild and a mustang that went 225k still running when I sold it. Reliability is NOT one of the 4.6's issues. To beat that Camry (would need to shave 9 seconds) you'd spend all your money on brakes and suspension components...and it would happen. No sweat.
Tommy’s lap was by far the best and extra points for style 👍👍👍👍 haha
It would have been interesting to see how much faster he would have been in the 300ZX than Roman.
Would have loved seeing the race with a pro driver and new tires (even cheap ones)
Would be a good driver vs race car driver comparison to see how much more the cars had in them.
You would think it would be a good advertising ploy for a tire maker
Need to call Ben Collins
You should do one more video to show how a good set of new tire could improve there time around the track and have a different brand for each car to see which does better. Example Goodyear tires on one car and Michelin for another.
honestly tires are what kill most of there times. you can have all the power but you cant grip you dont do well
It's a shame they couldn't get Paul to drive all these cars.
It would have been nice to see how the cars actually compared to one another and the Camry, and not so much the drivers....
True. Tommy has grown leaps and bounds as a driver. He tends to talk with his hands like most of these guys so doesn’t have ANY hands on the steering wheel while hurtling down the road, all too often, but I really only fault him there. Being a retired LEO that did a lot of traffic, that’s a pretty big compliment Tommy.
This was just for fun of course. The tires were all different ages, the condition of each vehicle was varied, and of course 4 different drivers are going to always come in with different times. That all ok though because this was FUN!
Can you imagine if they were able to purchase a Vette?? That would have been an even larger gap in times. I think it was optimistic, mind you as far as being under $10,000. Here in Canada the equivalent price would be $13500 (ish) and it was not possible to find a decent example either. The Mustang her was actually really well cared for,,, until “Talladega Tommy” comes out to play,,,,, 😂😂.
I liked the series fellas! Quite disappointed with the Mercedes mind you. Throw the hard top and sell it as that rare model that didn’t have a convertible,,,,, 😂😂. Let the next guy find out the story works well so you can pretend you didn’t know the top was leaking oil everywhere,,,,,😮😮. I’m not sure if that really was the case or not, but that previous owner really wasn’t too surprised when they discovered the convertible. He even helped them know how to remove the hardtop,,,,,, haha.
After these results it will be interesting to see what the prices will be. People on here tend to overreact to flaws and features. I would pay the most for the Mustang, but mostly due to condition, then the Jag, same reason. They fixed the damage to the Jaguar when it drove on the boulder, so it just needs some cosmetic repairs. Then I wouldn’t even consider the last two, regardless. Even the Jaguar is a stretch,,,,😅😅.
Thanks Team TFL!
@@shitloveaduck explain to me what any of all that tommy-tugging crap you just said has to do with what I said, and why are you responding to my post with that?
The precedent was set by paul, and Paul should have been the one to drive all of the other cars.
otherwise, it's not a comparison!!!
Tommy was handling the mustang very well, even managed a few power slides. The other guys were slower.
@@angelgjr1999 thank you for proving my point if you're going to do a comparison, then you should use the same driver for all of the vehicles.
They should have had Paul race all of the cars.
Oh btw, the US is responsible for what's going on in Ukraine.
@@deejayimm - everything I said was in agreement! Dumb*ss. Because Tommy is the best driver in the group from what he was 2 years ago it was worth noting. Now take a chill pill and grow up a little,,,.
still need to road trip these! just for the hell of it!
So sad this series is coming to an end. I really enjoyed it
Would be fun to see what car has lost the most horsepower over the years on a dyno and a sign points accordingly.
@@WW-wf8tu Who cares and why would this be a big deal to you? Petty.
Many have done the same thing because it is entertaining and people enjoy content. There is nothing new now days so just enjoy the show and stop worrying about minor junk like that and grow up already.
@@WW-wf8tu why do people not see that they are doing their own formula in other areas such as Tumbleweed Ranch Pond and SUV courses, Ike Gauntlet, etc?
Fun video for sure. But to really get a comparable time Paul would have needed to put these cars through there paces . Where is Paul?? Bring Paul back more often !!??love his pro racing driving perspective.and knowledge .
One of the more entertaining videos series you guys have done. Was a great time for all of you. Do more budget build series just for fun
You can imagine how dangerous that Mustang is on ice. I don’t have to imagine. Lol
Just imagine how dangerous that Mustang is in the hands of your typical Mustang driver
Tires and driver can make any car do what you need it to do so no fault to the Mustang.
My first car was a 95 mustang gt with blizzak snow tires and I made it to work everyday with it.. pulled in sideways but I made it
I have this exact car, in the past 11 years of ownership, I've driven in snow many times. All season tires and a real limited slip are all you need
Here’s a tip for driving mustangs in the snow: fill up your tank to full and add weights to the back. Helps a TON. Also keep it in a higher gear than normal to reduce torque.
…..the xk8 has not only a sport button but the J-gate gearbox that enables pseudo-manual gear change…which allows to use high rpm’s and that is where the xk8 engine has the power “hidden”. Definite way faster in the “manual” mode than in the lazy full automatic setting
If I was running the Z I'd have been using gears too.
Tires are the most important part of a race car. It does not matter how much power you have if you can't plant it on the tarmac. I would take fresh, wide tires in a 100 bhp Sentra over a 300 bhp 300ZX with skinny, dry-rotted tires any day.
After you guys done with these test, do not end this series just yet.
Hear me out. You guys should do a part 2 series of these cars but this time give all the cars new tires, new brakes, a proper tune-up and repair all the oil leaks. Then do the test again and I bet you myself and many many others will be watching! Crossing my fingers that this will become a reality.
Saturday morning drag races 🏁. Let's gooo! This is fast becoming my favorite segment.
Have a good day everybody!
So, is Talladega Tommy a new TFL Tshirt?
Better tires, Koni shocks and struts, and lowering springs make these Mustangs into track beasts!
@@lamesamelame No, your 80 hp civic isn’t faster. Lol.
@@lamesamelame It’s an economy car front the 80s with 92 hp. Dude my radiator fan makes more torque. It’s not even a close competition lol.
@Thor Odin son You’re comparing an exige to a Mustang. Lol. Dude these are highway cruising cars, not handling beasts. These mustangs were pretty much F150 trucks inside the body of a coupe. Same transmission, driveline, engine..etc.
For their low price, they’re the most fun cars you can get nowadays. JDM and EDM cars are overpriced nowadays. Mustangs are going up too but not as quickly.
@Thor Odin son They’re more like 1/4 mile track cars.
When the four of you are together I know it's going to be fun to watch. Tommy fish tailing through every turn and doing burn outs is the way every young guy drove these things. It's just perfect lol. Fantastic video. Smile didn't leave my face
The jag wins always, these aren't race cars, they're for posing in and enjoying the fresh air and blue skies while driving. When you get out of them even if going to a job you hate you've got a smile on your face and you're excited all day to get back in it to go home. They're cruising machines, the road trip is a far better test than this but I still enjoyed the show, thanks chaps.
exactly, and they always have the power on reserve when needed, they just aren’t boy racer cars
Mustang is killing this challenge!!
I know its not the fastest of the group but I would take the 300ZX
That SL is sooo bad in all ways:)
That Mustang start was soo good!!
As a mustang nerd, I was expecting Tommy fall in love and get rid of the mini and do some suspension and engine mods
These Mustangs handle pretty well despite the ancient rear suspension. Better tires and shocks, and lowering springs make the SN95 drive like a go cart. 🐎
@@angelgjr1999 I put an IRS in mine out of a terminator and she's grippy now! So much you can do to these for relatively cheap
@@keenanwingo2250 Is it worth swapping it? How much did it cost to change the rear end?
@@angelgjr1999 I don't do much drag racing. It rides smoother and feels more modern. Feels like it handles turns more confidently. For me it was worth it. An old man with a cobra wanted a solid axle, catch was the differential needed to be rebuilt. So it cost me about $400 and I did it myself. I got lucky cause they sell for $1500 usually, then you have to buy a cat back. We did a straight up trade. I did have 373s in my solid axle so if you take that into consideration it cost me more.
@@keenanwingo2250 Yeah recently I had to have my axles replaced. 4.10 gears and plenty of burnouts tend to bend axles. 😅
Tommy have a lot of fun!!! Loving these series. Greetings from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷
Should have had Tommy drive all of them. No fear 😂
That Jaguar is still sexy, I had one that same model six years ago.
Loved watching this on my calm Saturday morning while having lunch😁
Nathan with the cars and coffee mustang wreck comment..... ON POINT
TFL, thanks for listening!!
Great video! Tommy showing off at the end was hilarious
4:50 mk4 Supra was legendary for being fast in a straight line while looking drop dead gorgeous, IIRC that chasis was always garbage in the turns on a track versus a corvette or other purpose built race car.
I still maintain that until you do a top down decibel test at 75 mph using the noise meter from your ike will you determine the best car and /or the speed at which Adres cowboy hat flies away in each convertible you wont find an incorruptible test . (Tethered with fishing line or similar) l look forward to the 500Sl on TFL Bids...
You could have one more video. Take the cars to a cars and coffee event and have women vote on which car they are attracted to. I think Tommy would not come in first...or second. And this is coming from a Mustang owner (although my mustang looks good from the factory).
the jag typically wins with that crowd
Hahahahaha that would be hilarious actually. Good idea lol
The Benz. I wanted a 500 SL in the early 90s
I wanna see you guys do a 90s minivan challenge.
Siennas were so much better than the rest, Hondas had weak transmissions.
I'd love it if you guys made a series of videos where you revive 3 or 4 cars out of a junk yard and then road trip them
Watching Tommy drive that Stang around the track is amazing
Honestly guys, this has been your most enjoyable series. It’s something almost everyone has done or is going to go. Takes me back to my old Chrysler days. Very fun ride dudes!
This is hilarious!! Beat the meat Andre! LOL! Cool hat Nathan!
I would love if they used the 300zx twin turbo instead off the n/a version
What an amazing video guys, thank you. Nothing better then a TFL racing video on Saturday morning with some coffee.
Talladega Tommy takes the Lap
I would take the classic SL Benz over all of them.
But I did love my 97 Mustang GT convertible, it was slow but it was a great chick magnet…. Lol
The TRD camry is a stout sedan. Those aren't the camrys of 15 years ago
maybe do this test ovr with everyone on the same set of mid-priced performance tires.
I’m in Carteret New Jersey. I’m totally interested in buying your red Mustang…
My father and girlfriend both owned a 4 cylinder mustang, back in the 90s…
You guys should upgrade and tune them with a budget of like $7500 to see what kind of power and how much faster u guys can get them
The Mustang has really good shoes on, BF Goodrich GeForce 🤟
It would've been to put tires on the cars. And possibly brakes.
Funny he said got so much power when the mustang was the under dog at 215 hp going up against cars that had 100 more hp and drifted and still beat the other cars
There’s an old saying: HP sells cars, and torque wins races.
Mustangs are torquey little cars. They’re a blast to drive.
Why no C4 Corvette?
I absolutely love this series and the very entertaining content! Keep up the great work guys!
Lambo helmet and the front lights of the z were used in the Diablo
I enjoy when Mr Mine , my, i, i have , loose( Andre ) but i love HIS Mercedes 😁
What a fun series
MUSIC...THE ANIMALS...HOUSE OF THE RISING SUN
Interesting that the FORDs are in the lead.
the mustang has a non synchronized trans mission so you have to put it in first before you put it in reverse.
Tommy, you crushed it!!!
Diablo rocks the ZX headlights,all the lambo you need?!
The 500 SL in those days was the price of a new construction house in Denver.
Roman should have bought a 90s Eclipse spyder turbo .
The only thing left to do now is put them all up against the undisputed power and technology leader of the TFL fleet… Nathan’s LEAF.
Beat the meat 😄😭💀. Oh Andre would be the funniest uncle to have
Was so looking forward to a road trip video...
And to add insult… another ‘race’ video and a bonus dated comparison.
If I’m only watching TFL ‘challenges’ and they’re no longer worth it…
with a little less aggressiveness, I think that stang could come close to the camry...lol
Tommy!!!! The King of Burnouts at TFL!!!! Right on Tommy!!!
The cars and coffee was great lol
In Michigan I found a 300zx convertible with the 302 in it for 7500
I'm SO UPSET about Mercedes losing too. My favorite one of these 4.
Nathan constantly made comments that a 2002 and the 97/98 of his model were the same. Might not be 100% true. Power output might have increased between that year span similar to Mustangs when they swapped to the 99-04 sheet metal also referred to as a SN95. They claimed that the 97 Mustang GT in the series had 215 meanwhile my Dad's 4.6L 98 has 225 and my cousin's '02 with a 4.6L had 240
@Thor Odin son I dont like Jags either.
Really enjoying this series!
Mid to late 90's LT1 6 speed Camaro would leave all 4 of you in the dust, step up a few years to the LS1 and it's definitely over for you guys!
Nice guys like the show. I know Mt Evans close to the top. But y’all can go drive pikes Peak all way up that still open to top.
That would be a nice ride to top with those cars. But the coming down will challenging with those cars see don’t lose there brake’s
We actually like Roman and his gang so the "going down the peak with bad brakes" would be a no no. We really want them to be alive to make more videos. Thanks
With that helmet, someone needs to get Nathan a Red Barchetta.
Jók a videók! De rakjatok feliratot melyik hány éves, hány lóerős, mekkora nyomateka van és súlyt. Köszi
Should've done best of 3 laps. And had Paul drive
You can buy faster cars , but then you can buy fun cars like the sn95 gt i had one pretty much identical to the red convertible a 97 but recently sold it for a 2004 Gt even more fun 😀
A C8 Z06 Hennessy at the Red Bull Ring!! My Dream!!!
I got caught in a snowy day several years ago, just after putting Michelin pilot sport all season tires on my mustang GT. I tried to turn around on a non-graveled or de-iced road. Plowed right off the edge.
Fill up your tank, and add a bunch of weights to the trunk. More weight on the rear helps a lot. I’ve driven on the snow, even drifted uphill once in front of cops and they didn’t care. 😂
@@angelgjr1999 Of course! But the 4.6 in a manual GT with the pilot sport A/S 3+ and a two lane road, I was expecting to get the rear to spin around with little issues, not push the nose. Silly me.
@@williampatten9165 I’m gonna upgrade to Pilot Sport A/S 4 before winter starts.
Great series 🎉🎉
So many Mustang jokes yet performed than any of those junk boxes
Young lad is only one who dares to drive
How do i get that mustang??
Buenos días! Preparándome!
Imagine the roof being so low that your helmet reaches outside of the roofline. that’s ridiculous 😮
Yep, would fail the "broomstick test" at an actual track day.
Paul should have tested these cars to give a accurate comparison,,,
In all fairness, the tires should have been refreshed. Would you try racing a 1969 ____ with 50 year old tires? Never. Beyond that, fun times!!! Love you channel (s)!!
At least the Jag and the Mercedes look good.
Which one do you think we thought was the biggest dog? We know the Mustang was going to be the best
I know they can only purchase so many cars, but would have loved to see this test including a C4 Corvette and/or a Z28/Trans Am.
Mustang would still beat the trans am because the shorter wheelbase, but the corvette would’ve been interesting.
I guess they feel it would have been a less interesting video if a 30-year-old car put a hurting on the Camry. Let them keep down talking the C4 because he keeps the prices down for the rest of us that actually want one.
The FBody would have slayed too. When the LS1 came out in 98 they were annihilating the Mustangs. Some of them ran high 12s stock.
@@angelgjr1999 nah, in the mid- late 90s the FBodies destroyed the Mustangs, especially after they got the LS1 in '98, plus historically the F-Body has always been the better handling car.
@@trailrunnah8886 heck even the 1993 f body at only 275 with the Z28 1LE or TA WS6 wouldve annhilated that mustang. either way i would love to see a sub 1:08 time on that track with old school iron...
Awesome!
I think all challenges should have been done top down, exclusing carwash, otherwise what was the point in getting convertibles
Instead of an amazing road trip let's do an everyday "race track" against a Camry in a local parking lot. So much fun 😴
I would like to point out that the Camry had a more powerful engine than any of these cars, 8 gears in the transmission, better tires, and probably larger brakes. Brand new on good tires I doubt any of these cars could have beat it on a track.
Merica. Lol
Do an early 2000s convertible. S2000, new edge mustang gt (talladega Tommy ) Mercedes Benz SLK , BMW 328i convertible
Roman, did you put the Z's shocks into "Sport" mode?
feel like they all should have all been either AT or MT....
wish the Z was the turbo edition, would have been 1 or 2...
Would have liked to have seen a z28 for the American convertible. Made more power then the sn95 but it could be cause I like chevy more
The mustang made about the same power as the z28... iirc the z28 made 275? Hp and the cobra made around the same. Not sure why his gt makes 215, only the 94 made such a pathetic number bc of the ancient engine they carried over.
I think the z28 package would handle better though, wider wheels and better suspension parts for those years
@@tacticalidiot175 the z28 made around 290 with the lt1 and 310 with an ls1. So more then the cobra ever made unless you modified the cobra.