Still,the developers dont spend much time on it I'm 175% sure that if they did,titanfall would be one of the bestsellers and one of the best fps games that exist nowdays. The game died because of the lack of updates,i can't wait for titanfall 3!
I've used ion's tripwire defensively and offensively. Defensively, it can slow the enemy in a pinch, either luring players away from you (works well in close quarters) or do good damage to titans that are blindly chasing you. On the offensive side, you can just chuck it at a titan provided you do it right. You can throw it just after the sheild disappears for example.
With the right angle and momentum, you can put tripwires through doors only big enough for human size units. I've taken out a whole team with one tripwire that way
I will say, really really skilled Scorch mains are absolutely terrifying because they will never put themselves in positions where they can’t corner an enemy. Many times early-career scorches get blasted because they run straight at an enemy over open ground….but the scariest Scorch mains are the one who have no issue taking their time to get into position to spring a trap with massive stacking damage. I have close to 250 hours on Scorch ALONE because the area control is just my kind of playstyle….and I will tell you now as long as I think ahead and plan my attack, I have no issue facing down 2-to-1 or 3-to-1 odds if I can get myself into an advantageous position. I’ve logged huge chunks of time with each titan….but when the cards are down and I need to win, I break out the big papa because I can control the flow of the engagement
my man sayin truths, tbh I got really excited when he put Scorch at A, bc some people think he is weak, but it really depends on the situation, in one he is a monster others just a chunk of metal, but if you are always at the best situation then you are always a monster. I remember playing some only Titan battles (forgot the name) in a private server bc of the ddos, it was advanced base and I still ruled with scorch, 10-0 then I simply left, Papa is simply too good
Well that goes for all skilled titan mains... Scorch gets rolled by every single titan in a 1v1. The only exception being legion, who still destroys him, assuming both have some core charge already, since he shreds scorcjes shield and then health bar with smart core. Seriously, then only players thinking scorch is genuinly good is newbies getting thermal shielded or just unaware scorch onetricks.
@@ToxicOnAWave Scorch is very map-dependant. There are some maps where a good Scorch can catch others off guard or corner them, but on open maps he'll usually either have to hide for most of the game or get shredded before he can close.
Hard disagree about scorch losing most matchups. If we assume we aren’t playing on homestead and are on any other map, scorch can probably beat ronin, legion, and tone. I think ion and monarch are about even but probably slightly bad for scorch, and northstar just hard counters. I’ve played scorch so much and he genuinely has an insane skill curve with each part of his kit being crucial to master with a wide variety of viable scorch loadouts that can change matchups.
Northstar's cluster can be used reliably as a main form of defense for pilots, same for twin tethers, but with titans. hover can be used to peak over buildings when at a distance and whittle down enemy titans health. You can also, with the piercing shot kit, SHOOT THROUGH TEAMMATES AND USE THEM AS A SHIELD. (example combat scenario: Northstar with piercing shot kit behind friendly legion with an enemy monarch in front in a non-flankable corridor. since northstar < legion in health, and northstar > legion in quick bursts of damage, northstar is a bigger priority. use the tankier titan as a shield and do damage to the monarch in a sort of defensive-offensive position. Flight core is used best at mid-long range while alternating ADS for accuracy, and hip-fire for damage. when a titan is close, you can either dash away a lot, or punch them. my fav strategy is to use the threat optics kit and electric smoke so YOU can see THEM and not vice-versa or both. also if you are being rodeoed and don't have e-smoke, shoot a cluster at the ground, back up into it, and look straight up. or at a wall, back up into it and look the opposite direction of where the wall is. or if you are below a ceiling you can shoot it at the ceiling and look down. all of these WILL kill the pilot unless they leave. Against Ion: Keep distance and cover and try to critical hit as much as possible, mind the vortex shield. when she is using core, stay behind long cover to take minimal damage until the core ends. Against Scorch: Keep distance as to not let him obliterate you with thermal shield (especially if he has inferno shield) or gas traps. hover when he is using core and if you can, use flight core to counter his failed core and keep away from his T-203 TL rounds which take a while to hit their target, take advantage of this. Against Ronin: Make him use up his arc wave, dashes, and leadwall rounds so he has to reload, use cluster missile on the ground to make him use up phase dash and trap him in tethers so he can't escape, get a good full charge shot on the nose and dash away when hover ends. Juke him into chasing you around the map to get to your ally titans (if you are playing teams) and have your friend distract the ronin while you take cover and shoot him until he is doomed. don't bother with the termination or goose and just melee the pilot when he ejects and hits the ground. Against Northstar: Keep in mind that she has everything you have, and cover and velocity is essential. keep distance and get as many traps off as you can. if you get her in the traps, don't let her have the time to charge and shoot you back, go to cover and crouch behind it and tease her by un-crouching and crouching so she doesn't know when you are going to un-crouch and shoot. keep away from the clusters and traps, mind your surroundings, and most importantly RUN THE FUCK AWAY FROM FLIGHT CORE (that shit be scary man) Against Tone: Flank and shoot, surprise her by staying in the edge of a corridor with full charge, and keep in mind that particle wall is easy to destroy in 1 shot with full charge, and that it has a really fast cooldown. Against Legion: Catch him off-guard and shoot his leg when gun shield is up, dash away when power shot is vibe-checking, and beware of long range mode and smart core. Against Monarch: RUN THE FUCK AWAY AND HOPE THAT SHE DOESN'T FIND YOU Basically, keep cover and distance with high-speed, mind your surroundings, and be creative with everything you do, as there is a lot of possibilities of what you can do and how you can use and/or combine it, where the enemy anticipates you, or where a strategy fails. but one point remains the same, act like you're playing super smash bros with combos of abilities pretty much. this took WAY too long to type but i hope i helped someone out with northstar.
If you want help with monarch I'd recommend trying to locate it first then keep the engagement at long range for as long as you can. Use tether traps to slow her advance and place cluster missiles between you and her. You want to wait around corners and large objects at a distance with a fully charged railgun shot for when she peeks. Unless you have a shot fully charged keep to cover to minimise any opportunities monarch has to shoot you. Avoid using hover unless you have viper thrusters and know what you are doing. You can also play around your core if it's available. Instead of falling back you want to hold your corner as the monarch advances. Hide a tether trap by the corner to catch her when she gets close and keep your health as high as you can. Once she's close enough to peek your corner (and trigger the tether trap) you want to preemptively dash towards her and core. you want to position yourself just above and behind her ideally, but just being above is fine. Then rain death from above. Know your monarch. It may be the same titan but each one is different. If you face an aggressive one who keeps pushing up towards you, stick to what I've mentioned and you can chip her down to doomed state. If she flees don't pursue too quickly. She may be baiting you into getting close which is a death sentence. If she doesn't peek around soon she may have already started flanking you. In this case, choose a new position to counter possible flanks and prepare a fully charged railgun round for when she appears. If she doesn't appear, she's lost and you're safe for a moment. Hope this helps.
@@supplice-03-aaliyah agreed I remember when I use to play monarch and a ns would teather me I wouldn’t slow me down at all even if the ns was far enough I would smartly use 1-2 round burst of my gun ,shield stealer thingy, or the rockets if you are skilled enough with monarch Any engagements at almost any range you can still have a high chance at winning
@@pcruncher5627 i mean others activate and trap me but mine dont even activate when a titan is standing literally RIGHT ON TOP OF IT AND IT MAKES ME SO FUCKING MAD
@@supplice-03-aaliyah The tether needs a second or three after landing before it can trap something. If yours aren't activating then I'm going to guess that you're throwing them like they are shurikens. If you are placing them early then ... I dunno. Are you actually placing them early or do you need to place them earlier than you expected?
This has been one of the Best tier lists for titans I have seen. I can relate to where you put each of them and it seems pretty accurate for skill level, Good vid.
This is by far the most braindead tierlist. Like seriously. Scorch above northstar? Ion in B tier? *Monarch in S Tier?* he could flip the tier list around the other way and it would be more accurate.
Scorch always felt like a good fit for me, area denial for sure and still being able to hit tones and other long range Titans, plus gas traps and thermal wall?? So good
Gotta disagree with a couple chief. In my opinion, ion is A because of her shear utility. Long range option laser, short range option tripwire. And some kits can majorly help with energy reserves. Monarch is only an A for me since she can become an S tier but until you get the first core, your the weakest titan on the field. The energy beam is decent but isn't the best defensive tool, and the missiles don't do much damage and like to swirl off and hit other things, making them less reliable as damage. If she gets to the 2nd and third core easy S but when she first drops she's a B. Averaging out to an A
@@EmmetTheSeal Nah bro it’s your opinion and your video so do what pleases you! Make it known in the intro that it’s your personal opinion and not everyone will agree and it’ll be fine
I've played TTF2 for a while and while I agree with everything, I'd still put Ronin as S. He isn't hated for no reason, a good Ronin working in conjunction with another Titan can disintegrate a team of three Titans. I'd put his job as to handle solo Titans/northstars and to support the team by smoking enemies and taking fire to himself so the team can dish out damage (it sounds bad being the tank but trust me, it works). Occasionally you can get some stupendous kills but that mostly depends on your Sword core, not very consistent. Still, he's the only Titan who can evade a rodeo with no smoke and can block a nuke blast. He's a menace.
Mine goes like this: Legion as my main, because I love the shooty, and I've always loved going "F this one lane in particular" and then nuking it. Monarch is my 2nd (shut up, it's totally a thing..) main. Legion was my first real main in TF2 PVP so it'll always hold a special place in my heart but I love Monarch's utility and build-up to power. Ronin comes next as the 2nd Titan I explored and was very salty about before playing as. (I main Legion for christ's sake, of course I'm gonna be mad about Ronins) After playing her I realised Ronins really DO need to steal my kills, (except when they don't (I'm looking at you Ronin's who aren't running sword core)) so now I appreciate them helping. Scorch comes in at third as the first titan loadout I actually enjoyed in the campaign (I do like the first few but they are a BIT boring, just saying.) and the first I played in PvP, without maining. Bare in mind I've only really explored Legion fully, as he's the only titan I've maxed out. (I might have also maxed Monarch but I'm not sure..) Northstar + Ion, I appreciate both and know that they can hold their own, but I haven't had enough experience with either yet to truly "get" them. Eventually, I will become enlightened and preach to the masses that Ion is the true messiah of the titans, but until then it's Lemonin (Legion, Monarch, Ronin) all the way baby! Tone, It's just too slow and 3 hits for rockets in multiplayer is not good enough, gameplay in TF2 is fast-paced and this titan just completely screws with that. I wanna be *f a s t* not slow...
If we get a titanfall 3, can they pls have you do a showcase of the titans that are going to be in the game? I found your descriptions and the tone that you used awesome. When they needed an aggressive tone to describe how dangerous the titan can be, you delivered. Badass video!!
There's a kit for monarch where you steal a doomed titans battery when executing them which heals you, gives you shields and gives progress for core upgrades, it also allows you to roleplay as a crackhead
Ah yes, my favorite thing in Titanfall 2, titan vs titan against 5 enemy monarchs, all using energy thief. Also Scorch can just kill legion with his shield by just running at him, most just give up
Hah! As a Legion main, I see comments like this all the time. Really, in most engagements with a scorch, simply moving out of range of their sheild, or waiting until it expires, is so easy and wins me most standoffs. Any scorch I come across is simply dumbfounded when bum-rushing doesnt work! Its hilarious. Seriously though, simply staying at range and making sure you cant be caught in a corner is pretty much enough to get you by. Scorch simply cannot function in open areas.
I am not sure if I agree with everything. Ronin: yeah, solid A tier. Basically anime-protagonist character. More you try - more successful you are no matter the enemy (k, maybe scorch puts you down to the ground) Northstar: something similar but without the anime-protagonist syndrom. Still high skill - high reward, however more things to keep in mind. No titan benefits that much from friendly titans as Northstar. Ronin is being punished for bad positioning, Northstar is being punished even more. Technically, you can control those things, but still you are restrained. Her gun is not the worst at killing pilots but totally not the best. There are things Ronin can compensate with mechanical skill, Northstar can't do that. Because of that I believe NS is in A tier below Ronin. Ion: I might be biased because I'm Ion main but this titan's versatility is its strongest side. There are no things Ion sucks at. Ion can't excel any titan (except tone) in their optimal range, however no titan can bully Ion. There is no natural counter for this bitch. Only thing Ion can't manage is being gangbanged by titans, for any other situation Ion has a tool to play around. The only way to win Ion is just being better. However, that is not the case for a Tone. Easily manageable defensive ability is a straight counter to the whole Tone mechanic, imo. Also laser shot is my favourite tool to deal with pilots. Still, I don't like the laser core. I feel this is mostly fun rather than powerful ultimate. Based on that I believe that Ion should be the lowest A. Not because you can kill everybody or make gamechanging play, but simply because you are not an easy prey to any titan. Scorch: I believe Scorch is not higher than B tier. He excels at his optimal range, this is the most dangerous titan when he gets close. His pressure is overwhelming. However, you have to be at your optimal range. If the map is too open or enemies can properly zone you, you are just an annoyance. His threat range is very short. I love his fat ass very much and it's easy to tell if scorch is skilled or not. Still, good enemy can prevent you from being a good pick. Legion: I dunno, solid B. He is also has a tool to be decent at any situation. However he is still isn't as versatile as Ion. Unlike laser cunt enemies can play around legion's distinct weaknesses: low speed and sustianed damage profile. Yeah, it's hard to kill him, however it's easy to decrease his usefulness. I can't think of anything to put him higher. Tone: I believe this titan is very underpowered. It's only purpose is to bully noobs. It's hard to play unpredictable as Tone. The whole mechanic is easily readable. Any defensive ability significantly decreases damage output of the Tone. On the good side, the gun is pretty good at killing pilots, arguably the best tool against them but that's it. In my opinion Tone is bottom B or C tier. Monarch: fucking boring. I hate Monarch. It's the most uninspiring titan. Just live it in S tier and forget about this Mary Sue of a titan.
As an avid Ronin main, I agree with everything you said. The A tier rating is very fair. I can't find anything wrong with the rating. Well done my friend! 👏
Scorch is my favorite due to the fact that I’ve annoyed so many people with the their ability’s . Legion firing at you use the shield, ronin thinks they are an anime protagonist pop some gas and watch them sit there sad that they couldn’t melee you, tone thinks they’re faraway enough slap them with a fire column, anyone thinks they can get near you hit ‘em with a core.
But he needs to get close to deal damages, and he totally lacks any mean to close the distance with his foes. Just keep your distances to beat Scorch. Scorch can only count on his opponent's poor positioning or surprise to be able to close the distance.
My tier list would go as follows: Ronin: A tier. Ronin is weird because his design screams fast dps, while what he actually is is a distraction. Ronin can't be left alone for too long since he rips through your Tone's shields, but the damage reduction on his sword block is INSANE. 75% base and 90% while cored iirc. Playing Ronin is a balancing act of getting the enemy's attention by pestering them with shotgun shells, then blocking and teleporting while your teammates move in to deal their damage. You can also chase down Northstars and Tones for fun. Like you said, he's got a really high skill ceiling. Scorch: B tier. Scorch is either S tier or F tier depending entirely on what map he's on. In close quarters, no titan even comes close to Scorch's power. Overconfident Legions and Ronins get demolished by fire 24/7. Where Scorch falls short is when he's forced to move in on an opponent. Since he's slow on approach, he either A: shields the damage and gets kited endlessly, or B: takes the damage in order to trade with the opponent. Northstar and Ion are literally impossible to deal with as Scorch. Tone and Monarch can be really tough too (especially with arc rounds, holy shit). Very situational titan, but stands above all else when the stars align. Legion: C tier. Imo, Legion is the worst titan in the game. He's even slower than Scorch, his shield is easily the weakest of all the titans (excluding Monarch), and the reload is painfully slow. Legion is like Ronin, his design betrays his playstyle. The way to play Legion is to be a long range Northstar until you're nearly full on Core. Switch to close range for that sweet bullet sneeze, then at low ammo flip that core on and spray gore across the field. Also, ALWAYS use hidden compartment, it's a pure dps increase from the extended ammo kit (forgot what it's called). If you want to experience the real Legion, fully rank him up in Frontier Defense. Dreadnought is probably the best capstone ability in the game, and so damn fun. Ion: A tier. This titan is why difficulty stars mean nothing. The energy balancing act is extremely difficult to pull off properly, but Ion is one of the strongest titans in every situation. The laser shot is the best primary weapon in the game, a slightly weaker, instant, hitscan Northstar shot that you can fire twice in a row without recourse is batshit insane. Crits on that thing are disgusting, and it chews up pilots almost as fast as a smart core. The splitter rifle sucks unless you have the energy left to fully activate it, then its damage becomes passable. The laser tripwire's hitbox is ridiculous (zero point tripwire rocks btw), and the shield is just so-so. Requires some hard reads from you to use effectively. Basically, Ion is a pilot's worst nightmare, and also a fantastic titan that can fulfill any role a team needs. Tone: A Tier. That particle shield...it's the only thing saving this titan from obscurity. Without a Ronin, the particle wall is legit unbreakable, never mind if they're using reinforced wall. When a Tone drops its wall, everything on the opposite side of it STOPS. There's no aggressing it, your frontline titans aren't fast enough and risk getting shredded before making it past, and retreating is usually the right option but still risks taking at least one lock on. It's a ludicrous ability on an otherwise decent titan. The core ability's pretty good too, straightforward and incredibly easy. Monarch: B Tier. If your team protects you properly, this IS the strongest titan in the game, bar none. If they let you execute and farm grunts, then a core 3 monarch is unstoppable. Unfortunately, this isn't how the game works. You will likely enter core 3 with half your health at most, if you reach it at all. Luckily, a core 1 and 2 monarch are still pretty good. Arc rounds and quick rearm/reload or maelstrom are a fantastic combo. What Monarch is best at is rolling a team that was already losing though, and honestly that just isn't as useful for winning as it is for getting a big killstreak. Fun titan, don't get me wrong, but it's more oppressive than it is good. In conclusion, the titans in TF2 are very well balanced. A few changes I'd like to see are 1: Give Scorch two shots in his primary so he can function as a backline artillerist when he can't get close. 2: Give Legion at least 140 ammo by default and make his shield a little stronger. This would lean Legion more into the power fantasy Legion players are looking for, being a bullet hose on the frontline, rather than only getting to experience that bliss when cored. 3: Lessen Ion's reliability on laser shot. Just make it do a bit less damage and make the splitter rifle a bit better. It's not even just that the rifle's weak, it's that it feels awful to use. It'd be fun to have a primary like Zarya's from Overwatch, a beam where the damage starts low, but ramps up with good tracking. 4: Make Monarch a true support titan. The shield transferring is laughably weak, probably because shield just isn't all that helpful in Titanfall 2. I'd say she should have the ability to grant overshield to herself and her teammates, making her teammates facepalm less when their greedy Monarch steals their kill. That's about it though. Sorry for the essay in the comments!
I'd personally ranked legion higher than North Star since his long range power shot does good damage making him essentially a bigger North star especially with his double power shot kit.
Legion can't sustainably just spam long range shots against a northstar. Yes he has more health but northstar's maneuverability, tether traps and hovering kinda just outclasses legion at a long range that being the range any decent northstar player would stick to
In all seriousness legion is my boy, his downsides force you to use proper positioning and have basic coordination with your team, he can still wreck on his own but even with a little help he's a nightmare
I've found that Tone is really reliable if you're accurate, being able to lock on and fire rockets almost instantaneously. But Tone is hard countered by Ronin and Scorch if they get close enough. But if a Ronin tries to kill me, it's going to come down with me.
I think the best thing about titanfall is that most of the guns are generally fair. In other words, you could easily just pick which ones looks cool, or which one you like, and will do just fine.
It’s weird because you’re right about the ion traps I run the kit that doesn’t take the energy for it so I could just use it in the middle of a battle it’s really hard to notice when you are fighting Or they just really don’t care
@@YeahILikeViperCopeNope. Monarch is the IMC’s knockoff Vanguard. Vanguard classes are able to take on any loadout, Monarch upgrades herself, not swap loadouts. She also has less health than Vanguard IIRC
I love North Star! Still do! She's my main. Nail em from a far, nail from up close! And surprisingly if you use the cluster missiles right, a swarm of combat drones and ticks can be decimated quickly and safely!
As a Legion main, it is hard to get kills because you need to wait for the predator cannon to rev up, but when it's ready you become almost unstoppable.
I don't know how legion is as low as he is, considering that he can out-dps every other titan minus scorch, who he can easily out-range, and out-range every other titan minus Northstar, who he can out-dps incredibly easily, along with having the best health and a very good kit.
Can’t believe I actually agree with the entire list. I agree with the whole Monarch is the best, and annoyingly so. I was a Ronin and Northstar main. It was a quick introduction to the Titans, but it got me ready quickly. Scorch was always my next choice, but I love speed.
Nah lad this list is just weird. Mornach is mid, Northstar is S, Ronin is close to S, ION IN B TIER???, Scorch is by far the worst titan and Ton is a sleeper pick in Attrition since she absolutely destroys pilots.
@@ToxicOnAWave I respect your take. ‘Just from what I experience, a tier 3 Monarch can hold it’s own against any titan, Ronin’s amazing in the right hands as a hit and run. Northstar similar for random spurts of damage. Scorch is a weird choice, prolly the most skillful one. And Tone has forever been good for Pilots, but I never really cared to much for that.
As a tone player, I know "iM a ToNe noOB" I really believe that tone is a very situational titan some maps she's terrible and others like Homestead she's and absolute beast, aver all I think their a lower A teir. I also think their one of the coolest titans.
@@WVinceoo7as a legion man that shield is the most annoying thing ever since. My strategy against it is literally popping off my shield and gamble on who’s shield lasts longer as we shoot each other.
I'm Monarch main I usually use arc rounds, energy field, superior chassis and with energy thief.These is a combo I use everytime it's the best and Monarch will always be my favorite titan 😊
Don’t think you’ve met a good Legion main that has good aim. Back in the day I used to completely out snipe Northstars and use my range to completely seal off entire sight lines of a map so that the enemy could funnel into another. On Homestead, Kodak and colony all I had to do was kick back and not miss a shot lol. As long as you keep your distance and keep track of all your opponents they can’t touch you while you empty drums of ammunition from across the map. And the power shot just makes it far too easy. Also the Bulwark kit is broken asf lmfao it completely absorbs salvo cores. I used to abuse that and lure people into a straight and then pop that with my core and have all the ammunition in the world to end them. If you demonstrate to the enemy that you know how to spend your 140 rounds then they won’t even try to bum rush you, in angel city I used to use the long range fire option in CQB and laser the crithit. Legion is A tier imo and S tier if you have good aim.
back when i first started playing TF2, Ronin was my go to titan. easily ranking him up to g43 at rank 26, and just phasing away every time i saw a scorch. Now, it's just me switching between passive northstar, or rushing in, and dieing to a smart core Legion.
I was infamous among my friends as the “rodeo ronin” i could tell you a whole story on it but I’ll make it short: basically i was(and still am in other games nowadays) a hit and run specialist so ronin is an obvious pick for me, i take flanks and i did this one tactic where after the hit, i run around a corner with a flat wall surface and wall run and rodeo the enemy titan, steal the battery because for some reason people just turn off their brains with the smoke when my titan is shooting them, and hop back in, phase behind them and finish/execute them, i 1v1 some of my friends and they hated this tactic 😂
I think ion is great because a laser shot on a critical spot (plus its low cd can lead to a lot.) Ion is probably the best at attacking grunts and reapers. Lasershot is perfect for reaper since it almost destroys them.
Imo all titans can be S tier depending on the pilot, personally aren't great at using legion but the rest I can perform very well on. By far I enjoy and perform the best with Northstar, followed closely by Ronin and Tone
my tier list 1. monarch - basically BT but different 2. scorch - it has high damage output to me so I main it 3. NorthStar - it is powerful but needs timing 4. legion - no need to explain 5. tone - hey its better for me to play then the last two. 6. Ronin - its better than ion but dies a lot 7. ion - I'm not good at managing ion levels
fun way to get value from tripwire. Let the enemy titan charge you, fire tripwire and punch them as they reach melee range, you will shove them back into the tripwire and force them to trigger it.
20 seconds in and i couldn't agree more. I'd take titanfall over battlefield or COD any day. Yea, the servers are shite, but the game is amazing. Thanks to Northstar, we can enjoy ourselves again.
Haha Legion go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT Seriously though, holding down a point with Legion, or holding down long alleys is the stuff of dreams. I've had people send me hateful messages because of me holding down a lane, and I use Bulwark(?) for that extra close range burst to push them back and take another chunk of hp. The key Idea is as soon as you see an enemy, crouch, shield and burstburst. Your shield will protect the most of your titan while crouched as your gun spins up and then when you're out of power shots, your gun is already spun up and your shield is usually still there too, unless you're facing another walking fridge. While you have your shield, PUSH FORWARD. This is usually enough to get the other titan to back off from the extremely quick withering damage. If not, it's their funeral. Enjoy the scrap metal.
every titan can be A or S tier depending on the map, always switch between titans except for tone, i never play tone because it just feels so mediocre, i cant find any map that properly suits it
I love Ronin just because Titans are cheap and plenty and you can always leverage a single Ronin into 1-2 enemy titans + a couple pilots. I usually take 3rd dash and thunderstorm, but phase reflex, highlander and both nuke eject and overcore will work. Vs Northstar: Sword block the railgun shot and you should be good to go. Use Phase Dash to get through any other titans blocking your way, otherwise save for tether traps. Vs Ion: Arc Wave and melee, you gotta be good at punch fights not to get knocked away. Use shotgun when enemy low on energy. Vs Tone: If they hit you, leave until the lockon falls off. Use Phase Dash to dodge Salvo Core. Arc Wave the shield to open the firing line to your allies. Vs Legion: Arc Wave, unload shotgun and skedaddle. Uncle Legion will melt your ass even through sword block. Vs Scorch: Arc Wave, phase dash through them, unload shotgun, run. If you don’t have all your dashes or phase dash? Forget it. Vs Monarch: If energy siphon build, then engage with a friend and wittle her down asap. If rockets, you shouldn’t have issues dodging. If chaingun, then don’t let her spin up. If she has superior chasis, Better call Legion.
For me Ion is amazing, I have an ability that makes it’s trip mines not use energy and I usually use it when close up against multiple, it shreds when you get a chance to use it at the right times, the power thing is tricky but with how good its ability’s are it’s worth it
I play northstar and imo i believe with at least 1 or 2 other titans is when shes best, i normally spawn her late and anyone that tries to rush our team gets melted immediately so u could technically call her somewhat of a support titan including her snare ability
i have gotten very good at neutralising ronins with tone even at close range, electric smoke+lock on tracker make for a very easy way to confuse ronins more than they confuse me and give me time to get another volly off before they find me again. I feel very happy that I am very good with the worst rated titan in the game according to you lol
Fun fact: in the starting cutscene you see when you start a new game when monarch Titan (or BT-7274 idk) when they stick they arm through the broken window to pick up the pilot when they go to put them inside the titan’s arm clips through the wall
I'm a maxed ronin main, pretty good multi-player ranking, 817 win 182 lose, even tho ronin is a hit n run titan, I used it as a flanking titan, going in melee until I eject, often killing from 1 to 3 titans
Personally I really like legion for 1 reason: Minigun go brrrrrrrr. Also it gives me battlefront 2 heavy vibes. I do just really enjoy raw damage output.
I think the most underrated titan, as far is powerfulness goes, will always be legion. Legion never stops dealing damage. The powers shots deal Northstar-like damage while only taking 1 bullet from your 100 (or 140) shot chain. Having ogre health and a shield while being able to deal that damage makes you the most reliably punishing opponent in the game, with the exception of surprise scorches. Annoying team of monarchs? Try legion!
Thing about scorch and Northstar is that they’re incredibly map-dependent. There are very few maps that favour scorch, and many many maps where he is outright unplayable, below F tier. Northstar on the other hand, due to being the polar opposite of scorch. Has many many maps where he is just an unstoppable killing machine, and very few maps where he doesn’t completely dominate.
Northstar can actually hold her own in close-quarters against a lot of the other titans, as long as she's not out in the open and uses her dashes well. Hell, I'm often able to win close-quarters fights against Ronins with Northstar, it usually comes down to who's better at the "block the railgun" mindgames. It's definitely not where she shines, but she still handles it better than Tone, base Monarch, and even some Ion builds.
@@cn8229 Well that’s because, contrary to popular belief, Northstar is a direct counter to ronin. You’d have to be exceptionally bad at Northstar to not beat a ronin. Considering you have roughly the same amount of mobility, and flight allows you to outright ignore arc wave, and tether traps when used correctly, basically end a ronin on their own. I think Northstar needs a lot of nerfs, I’d consider him to be the most overpowered titan, because there’s basically nothing you can’t do. It really fucks the game balance because there are multiple titans who outright cannot deal damage at long range, and Northstar being the most mobile, can ensure they always stay at those ranges. Not to mention that damage per shot is incredibly important. Burst damage always outperforms sustained damage.
@@michaeljcaboose1152 Northstar is a soft counter to Ronin if engaging at range. But Ronin is faster due to phase dash boosting speed, can tank by far the most damage out of any titan, and has a lot more burst damage than Northstar at close range. The matchup is map-dependant, but all things said and done it's fairly even. If anything, Northstar's only a hard counter to Scorch. Ion and Monarch tend to match up pretty well against Northstar, and even Tone can be a problem in teamfights, which most engagements tend to be in any of the Titan gamemodes. As for versatility, Ion and Monarch definitely have much more versatile kits than Northstar, though they are a bit slower if not running an extra dash. Really, the titans are reasonably well balanced outside of Scorch being the worst by a good margin. If anything is "broken" it's probably Monarch, although even then she's really not that overpowered unless you give her time to build up cores.
I have a tactic based off of how bad i am at fighting, i just run in as ronin to take down enemy titan health and i use the magnetic grenade launcher to also take chunks off titan health, and then i just turn into an auto turret by jumping onto a friendly titan and fighting what they fight.
Titanfall 3 will be amazing game, with all the Apex lore and characters, the weapons of apex and if they rehearse the TF2 formula well enough tf3 would be a gameplay and story gem
The thing about the titans is that they are meant to counter each other like legion will most likely loose to a ion because legion mainly uses his gun and ion can reflect the bullets and a scortch might win against a ronin because getting close to scortch is a bad idea and ronin normally needs to get close to do maximum dmg and so on
You see, I used to HATE and think scorch is ass. Well, he is compared to other titans but I just had a thought “what if I main scorch and become the flame lord too!” And I realized that I could use thermal shield as a damage source, spammed it, learned how to trap enemies, and wowza! Now I evolved to a G7.2 scorch main in just 6 months!
In my opinion, all titans are equally as good. It's all dependent on the user. As you've mentioned for basically every titan, in the right hands, every titan is a complete menace. (Except monarch. Monarch is OP and shouldn't exist)
Monarch is based off of the Expedition kit in the campaign, excluding the vortex shield and switching it to an arc shield. Unfortunately you can't fully make the entire upgrade since the two stage three upgrades are XO-16 burst and lock-on missiles.
In my eyes Scorch is S tier, he's shield is amazingly powerful, his gas tanks are crazy useful, his wall is also very good, and his core can obliterate anybody, Scorch, if some correctly can absolutely decimate anyone, I'm a Scorch main(obviously) and he's abilities are good on close-mid combat, however his his termite launcher is great on any distance, I have a video named "Kobe" On my channel killing a pilot like 200/300m away, I can do that with Titans as well, his wall is great to activate his gas tanks and if placed correctly in certain spots it can deal free damage to Titans without a way to escape it (like placing it in a tight space) he's gas tanks combined with the perk that gives you resistance to your own termite, can counter even Ronin or Northstar, when Ronin faze-shifts you can simply place gas traps here you stand to keep the Ronin away and possibly get some chip damage, his shield is great to counteract flying Northstar So in conclusion, Scorch is the best Titan in my opinion
I think he is simultaneously underpowered and overpowered, in close combat he wins most engagements, hands down his shield allows him to dish out mass damage while taking none, but anything further than close range he is the definition of a fish out of water
Just one point where I disagree: with Scorch: Even on Big Maps you are easily toe to toe against Tone. Just wait until the enemy got his 3 Locks and turn on your fire shield. They do minimal damage with their primary weapon and if they don’t retreat they are essentially doomed.
I love papa scorch but with this new opportunity to play again I think I want to try and master Ion. Everyone should master scorch enemy titans will be a thing of the past
I guess pilot skills matter because I can easely best 4v1 in a Tone or decimate a Nortstar at long rannge. Would do similar with Monarch but not as good as Tone. Close range Scorch or a good Ronin are a challenge for sure tho.
The worst part about playing Titanfall 2 is that literally no other multiplayer shooter is as good as it.
True
This is sad but fax, once i played it I can't play any other multiplayer shooter
Still,the developers dont spend much time on it
I'm 175% sure that if they did,titanfall would be one of the bestsellers and one of the best fps games that exist nowdays.
The game died because of the lack of updates,i can't wait for titanfall 3!
Battlefield 1?
Halo Reach?
TF2?
No the worst part about Titanfall 2 multiplayer is the amount of timeout & crashes 🤣. You can't stay in a lobby even for 1 minute.
Fun Fact: Flame core can skip doomed state on titans that have less than two bars of health left
Papa scorch always wins💰💲💰🏆
@@caglarizci1105 agreed
PAPA SCORCH
Very useful against nuke titans in Frontier defense
Poopy schoochy da goat fr!!
I've used ion's tripwire defensively and offensively. Defensively, it can slow the enemy in a pinch, either luring players away from you (works well in close quarters) or do good damage to titans that are blindly chasing you. On the offensive side, you can just chuck it at a titan provided you do it right. You can throw it just after the sheild disappears for example.
0 Point tripwire also makes the ability immensely better, meaning you can focus your energy on laser shot, vortex, and spread
Ions tripwire is good at punishing enemies for pushing you
Putting too much thought into it man I just put enhanced chip on ronin and it farms pilots for me😂
With the right angle and momentum, you can put tripwires through doors only big enough for human size units. I've taken out a whole team with one tripwire that way
I‘m a Scorch Main and I love sniping (obviously also including ejecting pilots)! I would trust him (and his voice) with everything!
Duck hunting time
Daddy Scorch 😫
I’m run Ronnin scotch or bt
Legion will always be my favorite. He’s a giant dude with a minigun. What’s not to love about that? Northstar is a close second for me.
Scorch better
big gun go brrrrr
I mostly play Frontier Defense and I adore how powerful Scorch feels when I'm annihilating everything with my fire
I will say, really really skilled Scorch mains are absolutely terrifying because they will never put themselves in positions where they can’t corner an enemy. Many times early-career scorches get blasted because they run straight at an enemy over open ground….but the scariest Scorch mains are the one who have no issue taking their time to get into position to spring a trap with massive stacking damage. I have close to 250 hours on Scorch ALONE because the area control is just my kind of playstyle….and I will tell you now as long as I think ahead and plan my attack, I have no issue facing down 2-to-1 or 3-to-1 odds if I can get myself into an advantageous position. I’ve logged huge chunks of time with each titan….but when the cards are down and I need to win, I break out the big papa because I can control the flow of the engagement
my man sayin truths, tbh I got really excited when he put Scorch at A, bc some people think he is weak, but it really depends on the situation, in one he is a monster others just a chunk of metal, but if you are always at the best situation then you are always a monster.
I remember playing some only Titan battles (forgot the name) in a private server bc of the ddos, it was advanced base and I still ruled with scorch, 10-0 then I simply left, Papa is simply too good
Well that goes for all skilled titan mains... Scorch gets rolled by every single titan in a 1v1. The only exception being legion, who still destroys him, assuming both have some core charge already, since he shreds scorcjes shield and then health bar with smart core. Seriously, then only players thinking scorch is genuinly good is newbies getting thermal shielded or just unaware scorch onetricks.
The most terrifying thing about scorch is when you’re in the middle of a fight and then out of nowhere your health just starts melting
@@ToxicOnAWave Scorch is very map-dependant. There are some maps where a good Scorch can catch others off guard or corner them, but on open maps he'll usually either have to hide for most of the game or get shredded before he can close.
Hard disagree about scorch losing most matchups. If we assume we aren’t playing on homestead and are on any other map, scorch can probably beat ronin, legion, and tone. I think ion and monarch are about even but probably slightly bad for scorch, and northstar just hard counters. I’ve played scorch so much and he genuinely has an insane skill curve with each part of his kit being crucial to master with a wide variety of viable scorch loadouts that can change matchups.
My apologies when it came to ion, I was referring to ion as him not her, I think I got confused when I was reading the script.
man got the death mech's pronouns wrong
@@stone2417 Big robot, me not play that robot boy understand
@@stone2417 beep boop robot
Ok
I mean it’s just the AI’s voice that makes people call them by he or she.
Northstar's cluster can be used reliably as a main form of defense for pilots, same for twin tethers, but with titans.
hover can be used to peak over buildings when at a distance and whittle down enemy titans health. You can also, with the piercing shot kit, SHOOT THROUGH TEAMMATES AND USE THEM AS A SHIELD. (example combat scenario: Northstar with piercing shot kit behind friendly legion with an enemy monarch in front in a non-flankable corridor. since northstar < legion in health, and northstar > legion in quick bursts of damage, northstar is a bigger priority. use the tankier titan as a shield and do damage to the monarch in a sort of defensive-offensive position.
Flight core is used best at mid-long range while alternating ADS for accuracy, and hip-fire for damage.
when a titan is close, you can either dash away a lot, or punch them. my fav strategy is to use the threat optics kit and electric smoke so YOU can see THEM and not vice-versa or both. also if you are being rodeoed and don't have e-smoke, shoot a cluster at the ground, back up into it, and look straight up. or at a wall, back up into it and look the opposite direction of where the wall is. or if you are below a ceiling you can shoot it at the ceiling and look down. all of these WILL kill the pilot unless they leave.
Against Ion: Keep distance and cover and try to critical hit as much as possible, mind the vortex shield. when she is using core, stay behind long cover to take minimal damage until the core ends.
Against Scorch: Keep distance as to not let him obliterate you with thermal shield (especially if he has inferno shield) or gas traps. hover when he is using core and if you can, use flight core to counter his failed core and keep away from his T-203 TL rounds which take a while to hit their target, take advantage of this.
Against Ronin: Make him use up his arc wave, dashes, and leadwall rounds so he has to reload, use cluster missile on the ground to make him use up phase dash and trap him in tethers so he can't escape, get a good full charge shot on the nose and dash away when hover ends. Juke him into chasing you around the map to get to your ally titans (if you are playing teams) and have your friend distract the ronin while you take cover and shoot him until he is doomed. don't bother with the termination or goose and just melee the pilot when he ejects and hits the ground.
Against Northstar: Keep in mind that she has everything you have, and cover and velocity is essential. keep distance and get as many traps off as you can. if you get her in the traps, don't let her have the time to charge and shoot you back, go to cover and crouch behind it and tease her by un-crouching and crouching so she doesn't know when you are going to un-crouch and shoot. keep away from the clusters and traps, mind your surroundings, and most importantly RUN THE FUCK AWAY FROM FLIGHT CORE (that shit be scary man)
Against Tone: Flank and shoot, surprise her by staying in the edge of a corridor with full charge, and keep in mind that particle wall is easy to destroy in 1 shot with full charge, and that it has a really fast cooldown.
Against Legion: Catch him off-guard and shoot his leg when gun shield is up, dash away when power shot is vibe-checking, and beware of long range mode and smart core.
Against Monarch: RUN THE FUCK AWAY AND HOPE THAT SHE DOESN'T FIND YOU
Basically, keep cover and distance with high-speed, mind your surroundings, and be creative with everything you do, as there is a lot of possibilities of what you can do and how you can use and/or combine it, where the enemy anticipates you, or where a strategy fails. but one point remains the same, act like you're playing super smash bros with combos of abilities pretty much.
this took WAY too long to type but i hope i helped someone out with northstar.
If you want help with monarch I'd recommend trying to locate it first then keep the engagement at long range for as long as you can. Use tether traps to slow her advance and place cluster missiles between you and her. You want to wait around corners and large objects at a distance with a fully charged railgun shot for when she peeks. Unless you have a shot fully charged keep to cover to minimise any opportunities monarch has to shoot you. Avoid using hover unless you have viper thrusters and know what you are doing.
You can also play around your core if it's available. Instead of falling back you want to hold your corner as the monarch advances. Hide a tether trap by the corner to catch her when she gets close and keep your health as high as you can. Once she's close enough to peek your corner (and trigger the tether trap) you want to preemptively dash towards her and core. you want to position yourself just above and behind her ideally, but just being above is fine. Then rain death from above.
Know your monarch. It may be the same titan but each one is different. If you face an aggressive one who keeps pushing up towards you, stick to what I've mentioned and you can chip her down to doomed state. If she flees don't pursue too quickly. She may be baiting you into getting close which is a death sentence. If she doesn't peek around soon she may have already started flanking you. In this case, choose a new position to counter possible flanks and prepare a fully charged railgun round for when she appears. If she doesn't appear, she's lost and you're safe for a moment.
Hope this helps.
@@skyla1884 theres a problem, ns's tethers dont do SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
@@supplice-03-aaliyah agreed I remember when I use to play monarch and a ns would teather me I wouldn’t slow me down at all even if the ns was far enough I would smartly use 1-2 round burst of my gun ,shield stealer thingy, or the rockets if you are skilled enough with monarch Any engagements at almost any range you can still have a high chance at winning
@@pcruncher5627 i mean others activate and trap me but mine dont even activate when a titan is standing literally RIGHT ON TOP OF IT AND IT MAKES ME SO FUCKING MAD
@@supplice-03-aaliyah The tether needs a second or three after landing before it can trap something. If yours aren't activating then I'm going to guess that you're throwing them like they are shurikens. If you are placing them early then ... I dunno. Are you actually placing them early or do you need to place them earlier than you expected?
This has been one of the Best tier lists for titans I have seen. I can relate to where you put each of them and it seems pretty accurate for skill level, Good vid.
You must really like titanfall lol since I randomly found you on this video haha
@@ShaLoCFH kinda, all i did was watch one vid and then this stuff keeps getting recommended to me
Ionno bro. Ronin is S tier. I was nearly crying when i saw him getting hella damaged without ever using his shield
This is by far the most braindead tierlist. Like seriously. Scorch above northstar? Ion in B tier? *Monarch in S Tier?* he could flip the tier list around the other way and it would be more accurate.
Scorch always felt like a good fit for me, area denial for sure and still being able to hit tones and other long range Titans, plus gas traps and thermal wall?? So good
Gotta disagree with a couple chief. In my opinion, ion is A because of her shear utility. Long range option laser, short range option tripwire. And some kits can majorly help with energy reserves. Monarch is only an A for me since she can become an S tier but until you get the first core, your the weakest titan on the field. The energy beam is decent but isn't the best defensive tool, and the missiles don't do much damage and like to swirl off and hit other things, making them less reliable as damage. If she gets to the 2nd and third core easy S but when she first drops she's a B. Averaging out to an A
Just download the game again yesterday after not playing it in like 2 years and I’m enjoying it so much💯 Thx for the teir list btw
I’m glad ur enjoying the game :)
@@EmmetTheSeal thx man🤙🏾 Do you plan on doing a pilot tier list or nah
@@Aj-B44 I have a half written script, but I can’t lie I hold holo-pilot way too high for the general publics acceptance.
@@EmmetTheSeal Nah bro it’s your opinion and your video so do what pleases you! Make it known in the intro that it’s your personal opinion and not everyone will agree and it’ll be fine
I never get over how much I love scorch, incendiary traps + firewall and then flame core while dashing is an insane combo
I've played TTF2 for a while and while I agree with everything, I'd still put Ronin as S. He isn't hated for no reason, a good Ronin working in conjunction with another Titan can disintegrate a team of three Titans. I'd put his job as to handle solo Titans/northstars and to support the team by smoking enemies and taking fire to himself so the team can dish out damage (it sounds bad being the tank but trust me, it works). Occasionally you can get some stupendous kills but that mostly depends on your Sword core, not very consistent. Still, he's the only Titan who can evade a rodeo with no smoke and can block a nuke blast. He's a menace.
TTF2? TitanTitanFall 2?
@@nova6813 TiTanFall 2, I use it to differentiate between team fortress 2 (TF2).
@@flowepower3000 why not just write Titanfall 2?
@@nova6813 Because TTF2 is faster and a simple explanation is enough to make most people aware about what it stands for? Why do we abbreviate at all?
@@flowepower3000 Titanfall 2 is abbreviated as TF|2 usually
Mine goes like this:
Legion as my main, because I love the shooty, and I've always loved going "F this one lane in particular" and then nuking it.
Monarch is my 2nd (shut up, it's totally a thing..) main. Legion was my first real main in TF2 PVP so it'll always hold a special place in my heart but I love Monarch's utility and build-up to power.
Ronin comes next as the 2nd Titan I explored and was very salty about before playing as. (I main Legion for christ's sake, of course I'm gonna be mad about Ronins) After playing her I realised Ronins really DO need to steal my kills, (except when they don't (I'm looking at you Ronin's who aren't running sword core)) so now I appreciate them helping.
Scorch comes in at third as the first titan loadout I actually enjoyed in the campaign (I do like the first few but they are a BIT boring, just saying.) and the first I played in PvP, without maining. Bare in mind I've only really explored Legion fully, as he's the only titan I've maxed out. (I might have also maxed Monarch but I'm not sure..)
Northstar + Ion, I appreciate both and know that they can hold their own, but I haven't had enough experience with either yet to truly "get" them. Eventually, I will become enlightened and preach to the masses that Ion is the true messiah of the titans, but until then it's Lemonin (Legion, Monarch, Ronin) all the way baby!
Tone, It's just too slow and 3 hits for rockets in multiplayer is not good enough, gameplay in TF2 is fast-paced and this titan just completely screws with that. I wanna be *f a s t* not slow...
Jesus Christ you’re basic, fuck you with your monarch
Average Gen 10 player
If we get a titanfall 3, can they pls have you do a showcase of the titans that are going to be in the game? I found your descriptions and the tone that you used awesome. When they needed an aggressive tone to describe how dangerous the titan can be, you delivered. Badass video!!
If they ever make it, I'll do that lmao
@@Rackcoon929 will you make it
@@seventhest yes
@@seventhest not this acc tho
There's a kit for monarch where you steal a doomed titans battery when executing them which heals you, gives you shields and gives progress for core upgrades, it also allows you to roleplay as a crackhead
Ah yes, my favorite thing in Titanfall 2, titan vs titan against 5 enemy monarchs, all using energy thief.
Also Scorch can just kill legion with his shield by just running at him, most just give up
I would give up
Hah! As a Legion main, I see comments like this all the time. Really, in most engagements with a scorch, simply moving out of range of their sheild, or waiting until it expires, is so easy and wins me most standoffs. Any scorch I come across is simply dumbfounded when bum-rushing doesnt work! Its hilarious. Seriously though, simply staying at range and making sure you cant be caught in a corner is pretty much enough to get you by. Scorch simply cannot function in open areas.
people forgetting titan e-smoke is a thing that does damage, potentially giving you an upper hand or discouraging scorches from rushing you
Monarchs: YOUR BATTERIES, HAND THEM OVER
6:40 “That’s a police car”
Lil bro ain’t lyin
I am not sure if I agree with everything.
Ronin: yeah, solid A tier. Basically anime-protagonist character. More you try - more successful you are no matter the enemy (k, maybe scorch puts you down to the ground)
Northstar: something similar but without the anime-protagonist syndrom. Still high skill - high reward, however more things to keep in mind. No titan benefits that much from friendly titans as Northstar. Ronin is being punished for bad positioning, Northstar is being punished even more. Technically, you can control those things, but still you are restrained. Her gun is not the worst at killing pilots but totally not the best. There are things Ronin can compensate with mechanical skill, Northstar can't do that. Because of that I believe NS is in A tier below Ronin.
Ion: I might be biased because I'm Ion main but this titan's versatility is its strongest side. There are no things Ion sucks at. Ion can't excel any titan (except tone) in their optimal range, however no titan can bully Ion. There is no natural counter for this bitch. Only thing Ion can't manage is being gangbanged by titans, for any other situation Ion has a tool to play around. The only way to win Ion is just being better.
However, that is not the case for a Tone. Easily manageable defensive ability is a straight counter to the whole Tone mechanic, imo. Also laser shot is my favourite tool to deal with pilots. Still, I don't like the laser core. I feel this is mostly fun rather than powerful ultimate.
Based on that I believe that Ion should be the lowest A. Not because you can kill everybody or make gamechanging play, but simply because you are not an easy prey to any titan.
Scorch: I believe Scorch is not higher than B tier. He excels at his optimal range, this is the most dangerous titan when he gets close. His pressure is overwhelming. However, you have to be at your optimal range. If the map is too open or enemies can properly zone you, you are just an annoyance. His threat range is very short. I love his fat ass very much and it's easy to tell if scorch is skilled or not. Still, good enemy can prevent you from being a good pick.
Legion: I dunno, solid B. He is also has a tool to be decent at any situation. However he is still isn't as versatile as Ion. Unlike laser cunt enemies can play around legion's distinct weaknesses: low speed and sustianed damage profile. Yeah, it's hard to kill him, however it's easy to decrease his usefulness. I can't think of anything to put him higher.
Tone: I believe this titan is very underpowered. It's only purpose is to bully noobs. It's hard to play unpredictable as Tone. The whole mechanic is easily readable. Any defensive ability significantly decreases damage output of the Tone.
On the good side, the gun is pretty good at killing pilots, arguably the best tool against them but that's it.
In my opinion Tone is bottom B or C tier.
Monarch: fucking boring. I hate Monarch. It's the most uninspiring titan. Just live it in S tier and forget about this Mary Sue of a titan.
I love the titanfall titans. I think they all flow together so nicely in combat. Even tone.
This was a great video to listen to podcast style, keep up the great work I loved it
I’m back in titanfall 2 and my YT feed is now full of titanfall content. Great video!
Yippie
As an avid Ronin main, I agree with everything you said. The A tier rating is very fair. I can't find anything wrong with the rating. Well done my friend! 👏
Scorch is my favorite due to the fact that I’ve annoyed so many people with the their ability’s . Legion firing at you use the shield, ronin thinks they are an anime protagonist pop some gas and watch them sit there sad that they couldn’t melee you, tone thinks they’re faraway enough slap them with a fire column, anyone thinks they can get near you hit ‘em with a core.
Scorch is unbeatable. The amount of damage u can do is beyond insane.
But he needs to get close to deal damages, and he totally lacks any mean to close the distance with his foes. Just keep your distances to beat Scorch. Scorch can only count on his opponent's poor positioning or surprise to be able to close the distance.
It can either kill other players or yourself *unless if you have that Scorch kit where Scorch's flames don't harm him*
My tier list would go as follows:
Ronin: A tier. Ronin is weird because his design screams fast dps, while what he actually is is a distraction. Ronin can't be left alone for too long since he rips through your Tone's shields, but the damage reduction on his sword block is INSANE. 75% base and 90% while cored iirc. Playing Ronin is a balancing act of getting the enemy's attention by pestering them with shotgun shells, then blocking and teleporting while your teammates move in to deal their damage. You can also chase down Northstars and Tones for fun. Like you said, he's got a really high skill ceiling.
Scorch: B tier. Scorch is either S tier or F tier depending entirely on what map he's on. In close quarters, no titan even comes close to Scorch's power. Overconfident Legions and Ronins get demolished by fire 24/7. Where Scorch falls short is when he's forced to move in on an opponent. Since he's slow on approach, he either A: shields the damage and gets kited endlessly, or B: takes the damage in order to trade with the opponent. Northstar and Ion are literally impossible to deal with as Scorch. Tone and Monarch can be really tough too (especially with arc rounds, holy shit). Very situational titan, but stands above all else when the stars align.
Legion: C tier. Imo, Legion is the worst titan in the game. He's even slower than Scorch, his shield is easily the weakest of all the titans (excluding Monarch), and the reload is painfully slow. Legion is like Ronin, his design betrays his playstyle. The way to play Legion is to be a long range Northstar until you're nearly full on Core. Switch to close range for that sweet bullet sneeze, then at low ammo flip that core on and spray gore across the field. Also, ALWAYS use hidden compartment, it's a pure dps increase from the extended ammo kit (forgot what it's called). If you want to experience the real Legion, fully rank him up in Frontier Defense. Dreadnought is probably the best capstone ability in the game, and so damn fun.
Ion: A tier. This titan is why difficulty stars mean nothing. The energy balancing act is extremely difficult to pull off properly, but Ion is one of the strongest titans in every situation. The laser shot is the best primary weapon in the game, a slightly weaker, instant, hitscan Northstar shot that you can fire twice in a row without recourse is batshit insane. Crits on that thing are disgusting, and it chews up pilots almost as fast as a smart core. The splitter rifle sucks unless you have the energy left to fully activate it, then its damage becomes passable. The laser tripwire's hitbox is ridiculous (zero point tripwire rocks btw), and the shield is just so-so. Requires some hard reads from you to use effectively. Basically, Ion is a pilot's worst nightmare, and also a fantastic titan that can fulfill any role a team needs.
Tone: A Tier. That particle shield...it's the only thing saving this titan from obscurity. Without a Ronin, the particle wall is legit unbreakable, never mind if they're using reinforced wall. When a Tone drops its wall, everything on the opposite side of it STOPS. There's no aggressing it, your frontline titans aren't fast enough and risk getting shredded before making it past, and retreating is usually the right option but still risks taking at least one lock on. It's a ludicrous ability on an otherwise decent titan. The core ability's pretty good too, straightforward and incredibly easy.
Monarch: B Tier. If your team protects you properly, this IS the strongest titan in the game, bar none. If they let you execute and farm grunts, then a core 3 monarch is unstoppable. Unfortunately, this isn't how the game works. You will likely enter core 3 with half your health at most, if you reach it at all. Luckily, a core 1 and 2 monarch are still pretty good. Arc rounds and quick rearm/reload or maelstrom are a fantastic combo. What Monarch is best at is rolling a team that was already losing though, and honestly that just isn't as useful for winning as it is for getting a big killstreak. Fun titan, don't get me wrong, but it's more oppressive than it is good.
In conclusion, the titans in TF2 are very well balanced. A few changes I'd like to see are 1: Give Scorch two shots in his primary so he can function as a backline artillerist when he can't get close. 2: Give Legion at least 140 ammo by default and make his shield a little stronger. This would lean Legion more into the power fantasy Legion players are looking for, being a bullet hose on the frontline, rather than only getting to experience that bliss when cored. 3: Lessen Ion's reliability on laser shot. Just make it do a bit less damage and make the splitter rifle a bit better. It's not even just that the rifle's weak, it's that it feels awful to use. It'd be fun to have a primary like Zarya's from Overwatch, a beam where the damage starts low, but ramps up with good tracking. 4: Make Monarch a true support titan. The shield transferring is laughably weak, probably because shield just isn't all that helpful in Titanfall 2. I'd say she should have the ability to grant overshield to herself and her teammates, making her teammates facepalm less when their greedy Monarch steals their kill. That's about it though. Sorry for the essay in the comments!
I'd personally ranked legion higher than North Star since his long range power shot does good damage making him essentially a bigger North star especially with his double power shot kit.
Legion can't sustainably just spam long range shots against a northstar. Yes he has more health but northstar's maneuverability, tether traps and hovering kinda just outclasses legion at a long range that being the range any decent northstar player would stick to
Emmet:"monarch is S tier"
Legion mains: *laughing in aggressive sustained counter fire*
In all seriousness legion is my boy, his downsides force you to use proper positioning and have basic coordination with your team, he can still wreck on his own but even with a little help he's a nightmare
I've found that Tone is really reliable if you're accurate, being able to lock on and fire rockets almost instantaneously. But Tone is hard countered by Ronin and Scorch if they get close enough. But if a Ronin tries to kill me, it's going to come down with me.
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Tone is my main and I've noticed that with tone i have no issues to destroy any titan, no matter close range or long. The only issue is... RONIN
Ronin and Legion were my most used funny enough, but Ronin was my fav, I was a god tier titan killer back in the game’s prime
Both have a special place in my heart
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I think the best thing about titanfall is that most of the guns are generally fair. In other words, you could easily just pick which ones looks cool, or which one you like, and will do just fine.
I remember back when I used to play on my PS4 i main the hell outta monarch and she was easy for me to use even when I didn’t fully understand her kit
It’s weird because you’re right about the ion traps I run the kit that doesn’t take the energy for it so I could just use it in the middle of a battle it’s really hard to notice when you are fighting Or they just really don’t care
Facts are that all of these titans are deadly in the right hands
The hungry monarchs, 2022 edition
Hungry hippos remake.
You missed at titan called BT 7274
Shoot. He’s gotta point.
Bro. That's literally monarch
@@YeahILikeViperCopeNope. Monarch is the IMC’s knockoff Vanguard. Vanguard classes are able to take on any loadout, Monarch upgrades herself, not swap loadouts. She also has less health than Vanguard IIRC
I love North Star! Still do! She's my main. Nail em from a far, nail from up close! And surprisingly if you use the cluster missiles right, a swarm of combat drones and ticks can be decimated quickly and safely!
As a Legion main, it is hard to get kills because you need to wait for the predator cannon to rev up, but when it's ready you become almost unstoppable.
Me automatically when i use legion: Some people think they can outsmart me. Maybe... maybe. I’ve yet to meet one that can outsmart bullet
I don't know how legion is as low as he is, considering that he can out-dps every other titan minus scorch, who he can easily out-range, and out-range every other titan minus Northstar, who he can out-dps incredibly easily, along with having the best health and a very good kit.
Can’t believe I actually agree with the entire list. I agree with the whole Monarch is the best, and annoyingly so.
I was a Ronin and Northstar main. It was a quick introduction to the Titans, but it got me ready quickly. Scorch was always my next choice, but I love speed.
Nah lad this list is just weird. Mornach is mid, Northstar is S, Ronin is close to S, ION IN B TIER???, Scorch is by far the worst titan and Ton is a sleeper pick in Attrition since she absolutely destroys pilots.
@@ToxicOnAWave I respect your take. ‘Just from what I experience, a tier 3 Monarch can hold it’s own against any titan, Ronin’s amazing in the right hands as a hit and run. Northstar similar for random spurts of damage. Scorch is a weird choice, prolly the most skillful one. And Tone has forever been good for Pilots, but I never really cared to much for that.
As a tone player, I know "iM a ToNe noOB" I really believe that tone is a very situational titan some maps she's terrible and others like Homestead she's and absolute beast, aver all I think their a lower A teir. I also think their one of the coolest titans.
I main Tone... Tone is versatile and a fucking beast, cheers m8 (fuck fellow pilots if they can't see it that way)
@@WVinceoo7as a legion man that shield is the most annoying thing ever since.
My strategy against it is literally popping off my shield and gamble on who’s shield lasts longer as we shoot each other.
@beartheconfused6798 this is why I use the reinforced shield buff on tone🙂
Imo Ronin can be anywhere on the tierlist depending on the player there are some ronins who literally have so much swagger it’s like their playing dmc
I'm Monarch main I usually use arc rounds, energy field, superior chassis and with energy thief.These is a combo I use everytime it's the best and Monarch will always be my favorite titan 😊
I LIKE MONARCH!!! Reminds me of Bt-7274
Don’t think you’ve met a good Legion main that has good aim. Back in the day I used to completely out snipe Northstars and use my range to completely seal off entire sight lines of a map so that the enemy could funnel into another. On Homestead, Kodak and colony all I had to do was kick back and not miss a shot lol. As long as you keep your distance and keep track of all your opponents they can’t touch you while you empty drums of ammunition from across the map. And the power shot just makes it far too easy. Also the Bulwark kit is broken asf lmfao it completely absorbs salvo cores. I used to abuse that and lure people into a straight and then pop that with my core and have all the ammunition in the world to end them. If you demonstrate to the enemy that you know how to spend your 140 rounds then they won’t even try to bum rush you, in angel city I used to use the long range fire option in CQB and laser the crithit. Legion is A tier imo and S tier if you have good aim.
back when i first started playing TF2, Ronin was my go to titan. easily ranking him up to g43 at rank 26, and just phasing away every time i saw a scorch. Now, it's just me switching between passive northstar, or rushing in, and dieing to a smart core Legion.
I was infamous among my friends as the “rodeo ronin” i could tell you a whole story on it but I’ll make it short: basically i was(and still am in other games nowadays) a hit and run specialist so ronin is an obvious pick for me, i take flanks and i did this one tactic where after the hit, i run around a corner with a flat wall surface and wall run and rodeo the enemy titan, steal the battery because for some reason people just turn off their brains with the smoke when my titan is shooting them, and hop back in, phase behind them and finish/execute them, i 1v1 some of my friends and they hated this tactic 😂
I think ion is great because a laser shot on a critical spot (plus its low cd can lead to a lot.) Ion is probably the best at attacking grunts and reapers. Lasershot is perfect for reaper since it almost destroys them.
Imo all titans can be S tier depending on the pilot, personally aren't great at using legion but the rest I can perform very well on. By far I enjoy and perform the best with Northstar, followed closely by Ronin and Tone
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Scorch and Ronin are my two gods, great video 😁
my tier list
1. monarch - basically BT but different
2. scorch - it has high damage output to me so I main it
3. NorthStar - it is powerful but needs timing
4. legion - no need to explain
5. tone - hey its better for me to play then the last two.
6. Ronin - its better than ion but dies a lot
7. ion - I'm not good at managing ion levels
fun way to get value from tripwire. Let the enemy titan charge you, fire tripwire and punch them as they reach melee range, you will shove them back into the tripwire and force them to trigger it.
This makes me want to play Titanfall again
Do it, it’s such a good game, especially with northstar, plus if I’m not mistaken the original servers are back.
Pls do
20 seconds in and i couldn't agree more. I'd take titanfall over battlefield or COD any day. Yea, the servers are shite, but the game is amazing. Thanks to Northstar, we can enjoy ourselves again.
I love North Star with viper thrusters, it’s so much fun.
Along with those upgrades I also have warp fall and nuclear eject, as I know he won’t survive very long, might as well use him as a bomb for fun
Scorch is my all time main and have sniped many titans, and have gone on many, many rampages with him. Scorch, in my opinion, is S tier.
Scorch is a beast in Frontier Defense
Haha Legion go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT
Seriously though, holding down a point with Legion, or holding down long alleys is the stuff of dreams. I've had people send me hateful messages because of me holding down a lane, and I use Bulwark(?) for that extra close range burst to push them back and take another chunk of hp. The key Idea is as soon as you see an enemy, crouch, shield and burstburst. Your shield will protect the most of your titan while crouched as your gun spins up and then when you're out of power shots, your gun is already spun up and your shield is usually still there too, unless you're facing another walking fridge. While you have your shield, PUSH FORWARD. This is usually enough to get the other titan to back off from the extremely quick withering damage. If not, it's their funeral. Enjoy the scrap metal.
every titan can be A or S tier depending on the map, always switch between titans except for tone, i never play tone because it just feels so mediocre, i cant find any map that properly suits it
I love Ronin just because Titans are cheap and plenty and you can always leverage a single Ronin into 1-2 enemy titans + a couple pilots. I usually take 3rd dash and thunderstorm, but phase reflex, highlander and both nuke eject and overcore will work.
Vs Northstar: Sword block the railgun shot and you should be good to go. Use Phase Dash to get through any other titans blocking your way, otherwise save for tether traps.
Vs Ion: Arc Wave and melee, you gotta be good at punch fights not to get knocked away. Use shotgun when enemy low on energy.
Vs Tone: If they hit you, leave until the lockon falls off. Use Phase Dash to dodge Salvo Core. Arc Wave the shield to open the firing line to your allies.
Vs Legion: Arc Wave, unload shotgun and skedaddle. Uncle Legion will melt your ass even through sword block.
Vs Scorch: Arc Wave, phase dash through them, unload shotgun, run. If you don’t have all your dashes or phase dash? Forget it.
Vs Monarch: If energy siphon build, then engage with a friend and wittle her down asap. If rockets, you shouldn’t have issues dodging. If chaingun, then don’t let her spin up. If she has superior chasis, Better call Legion.
Man see giant robot with sword man fall in love with it
For me Ion is amazing, I have an ability that makes it’s trip mines not use energy and I usually use it when close up against multiple, it shreds when you get a chance to use it at the right times, the power thing is tricky but with how good its ability’s are it’s worth it
Try putting the tripwire through a small door
@@chojin6136 If that’s the only counter you can think of I’m not even gonna bother
@@slipdeath6662 counter to what? I'm an Ion main,. Putting tripwires through doors is kinda satisfying
@@chojin6136 I won’t lie I read it as an “Oh yeah? Try putting it through a door” as a criticism- sorry
@@slipdeath6662 Oh, no, it was a recommendation, lol. You're good, dude, no harm done
cool vid man
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I play northstar and imo i believe with at least 1 or 2 other titans is when shes best, i normally spawn her late and anyone that tries to rush our team gets melted immediately so u could technically call her somewhat of a support titan including her snare ability
If you have mastered legion, you are the juggernaut. Ronins run and tones duck away. Scorch’s get close then boom, nuke ejection
i have gotten very good at neutralising ronins with tone even at close range, electric smoke+lock on tracker make for a very easy way to confuse ronins more than they confuse me and give me time to get another volly off before they find me again. I feel very happy that I am very good with the worst rated titan in the game according to you lol
Fun fact: in the starting cutscene you see when you start a new game when monarch Titan (or BT-7274 idk) when they stick they arm through the broken window to pick up the pilot when they go to put them inside the titan’s arm clips through the wall
The more you know
@@EmmetTheSeal agreed bro
BT was a vanguard class, not a monarch
I'm a maxed ronin main, pretty good multi-player ranking, 817 win 182 lose, even tho ronin is a hit n run titan, I used it as a flanking titan, going in melee until I eject, often killing from 1 to 3 titans
Personally I really like legion for 1 reason: Minigun go brrrrrrrr. Also it gives me battlefront 2 heavy vibes. I do just really enjoy raw damage output.
This is so old yet so good
damn~! my girl monarch be S-class
She still scares the living daylight out of me whenever I see one
I think the most underrated titan, as far is powerfulness goes, will always be legion. Legion never stops dealing damage. The powers shots deal Northstar-like damage while only taking 1 bullet from your 100 (or 140) shot chain. Having ogre health and a shield while being able to deal that damage makes you the most reliably punishing opponent in the game, with the exception of surprise scorches. Annoying team of monarchs? Try legion!
Legion was my main before Monarch, but I only played Monarch because upgrading your titan was fun to do, it felt like a challenge to get to stage 3
Thing about scorch and Northstar is that they’re incredibly map-dependent. There are very few maps that favour scorch, and many many maps where he is outright unplayable, below F tier. Northstar on the other hand, due to being the polar opposite of scorch. Has many many maps where he is just an unstoppable killing machine, and very few maps where he doesn’t completely dominate.
Northstar can actually hold her own in close-quarters against a lot of the other titans, as long as she's not out in the open and uses her dashes well. Hell, I'm often able to win close-quarters fights against Ronins with Northstar, it usually comes down to who's better at the "block the railgun" mindgames. It's definitely not where she shines, but she still handles it better than Tone, base Monarch, and even some Ion builds.
@@cn8229 Well that’s because, contrary to popular belief, Northstar is a direct counter to ronin. You’d have to be exceptionally bad at Northstar to not beat a ronin. Considering you have roughly the same amount of mobility, and flight allows you to outright ignore arc wave, and tether traps when used correctly, basically end a ronin on their own. I think Northstar needs a lot of nerfs, I’d consider him to be the most overpowered titan, because there’s basically nothing you can’t do. It really fucks the game balance because there are multiple titans who outright cannot deal damage at long range, and Northstar being the most mobile, can ensure they always stay at those ranges. Not to mention that damage per shot is incredibly important. Burst damage always outperforms sustained damage.
@@michaeljcaboose1152 Northstar is a soft counter to Ronin if engaging at range. But Ronin is faster due to phase dash boosting speed, can tank by far the most damage out of any titan, and has a lot more burst damage than Northstar at close range. The matchup is map-dependant, but all things said and done it's fairly even.
If anything, Northstar's only a hard counter to Scorch. Ion and Monarch tend to match up pretty well against Northstar, and even Tone can be a problem in teamfights, which most engagements tend to be in any of the Titan gamemodes.
As for versatility, Ion and Monarch definitely have much more versatile kits than Northstar, though they are a bit slower if not running an extra dash.
Really, the titans are reasonably well balanced outside of Scorch being the worst by a good margin. If anything is "broken" it's probably Monarch, although even then she's really not that overpowered unless you give her time to build up cores.
Just got Titanfall 2 a few days ago and my goodness and its so much fucking fun
I have a tactic based off of how bad i am at fighting, i just run in as ronin to take down enemy titan health and i use the magnetic grenade launcher to also take chunks off titan health, and then i just turn into an auto turret by jumping onto a friendly titan and fighting what they fight.
Titanfall 3 will be amazing game, with all the Apex lore and characters, the weapons of apex and if they rehearse the TF2 formula well enough tf3 would be a gameplay and story gem
I don't think it will ever come out
Most titans:I can teleport, I can shoot lasers, I have a cool lock on mechanic
Legion: I have big gun.
One of the only bad things about Titanfall 2 is that there is no local co-op
As a Monarch main
Yummy yummy batteries
I only play the history mode but for my type of playing style I like Northstar, I used it to kill the last boss easy.
The thing about the titans is that they are meant to counter each other like legion will most likely loose to a ion because legion mainly uses his gun and ion can reflect the bullets and a scortch might win against a ronin because getting close to scortch is a bad idea and ronin normally needs to get close to do maximum dmg and so on
You see, I used to HATE and think scorch is ass. Well, he is compared to other titans but I just had a thought “what if I main scorch and become the flame lord too!” And I realized that I could use thermal shield as a damage source, spammed it, learned how to trap enemies, and wowza! Now I evolved to a G7.2 scorch main in just 6 months!
Gotta love the walking war crime scorch
Never hurt nobody a cheeky war crime or two
5:52 as a tone main, OP? I wish. That thing may have explosions, but unless you got good tracking, you ain't hitting a pilot out of the sky
In my opinion, all titans are equally as good. It's all dependent on the user. As you've mentioned for basically every titan, in the right hands, every titan is a complete menace. (Except monarch. Monarch is OP and shouldn't exist)
Monarch is based off of the Expedition kit in the campaign, excluding the vortex shield and switching it to an arc shield. Unfortunately you can't fully make the entire upgrade since the two stage three upgrades are XO-16 burst and lock-on missiles.
1:36 I've actually won 2v1s with Ronin it is just very difficult.
Pouring one out for Dr_DMR, my poor Scorch buddy got executed twice.
This is like the perfect game for AOT fans to experience it in a fps perspective. Except everyone gets to be Levi and a titan shifter at the same time
Good thing this was made after the several tone nerfs lol
In my eyes Scorch is S tier, he's shield is amazingly powerful, his gas tanks are crazy useful, his wall is also very good, and his core can obliterate anybody, Scorch, if some correctly can absolutely decimate anyone, I'm a Scorch main(obviously) and he's abilities are good on close-mid combat, however his his termite launcher is great on any distance, I have a video named "Kobe" On my channel killing a pilot like 200/300m away, I can do that with Titans as well, his wall is great to activate his gas tanks and if placed correctly in certain spots it can deal free damage to Titans without a way to escape it (like placing it in a tight space) he's gas tanks combined with the perk that gives you resistance to your own termite, can counter even Ronin or Northstar, when Ronin faze-shifts you can simply place gas traps here you stand to keep the Ronin away and possibly get some chip damage, his shield is great to counteract flying Northstar
So in conclusion, Scorch is the best Titan in my opinion
I think he is simultaneously underpowered and overpowered, in close combat he wins most engagements, hands down his shield allows him to dish out mass damage while taking none, but anything further than close range he is the definition of a fish out of water
I mean like you said it’s a Kobe, it can pay off but it’s unlikely
@@EmmetTheSeal ah ig your right
My number 1 titan is Ion and got it maxed fast
Just one point where I disagree: with Scorch: Even on Big Maps you are easily toe to toe against Tone. Just wait until the enemy got his 3 Locks and turn on your fire shield. They do minimal damage with their primary weapon and if they don’t retreat they are essentially doomed.
Most enemies don’t realise they do next to zero damage until you are on them.
Ion main right here
Also I stand by that ronin is op, it’s the only titan to be able to tank nuke ejects to the face
I love papa scorch but with this new opportunity to play again I think I want to try and master Ion. Everyone should master scorch enemy titans will be a thing of the past
I guess pilot skills matter because I can easely best 4v1 in a Tone or decimate a Nortstar at long rannge. Would do similar with Monarch but not as good as Tone. Close range Scorch or a good Ronin are a challenge for sure tho.