Thank you so much for the info. I just got a 2017 Giulia and since I have never had a car like this, I have been trying to educate myself about proper care. Your channel seems to have more information verses just car flash. I appreciate you attention to detail.
The letting the car get some heat before going to high throttle is common to all cars, but as you said, rarely followed. The "cool down" from spirited driving is a turbo thing. It really should be stated on ALL modern cars as just about everything has a turbo these days, but yes, you want to let the oil cycle after it's cooled somewhat to prevent coking of the oil in the lines. My only addition to your advice on that is, if you were to say drive to a track day, yes, let it idle in the pits if possible to cool off, but if you're say ripping it on a curvy road in "Mexico", and then drive home in a normal manner, the drive home should be sufficient to do the 5 minute cool down process, and then just give it a good minute to relax before powering down.
I don't understand the warming up procedure because sometimes it can take over 10 minutes just for 1 bar to appear if I'm idling. And it's wasting so much fuel too. Tbh I just wait 1 minute and then i SLOOOWLY drive til i see that 1 bar which happens very quickly if you drive the car slowly instead of idling (especially in winter, seeing than 1 bar on idle takes forever). I only start driving faster once I see 3 bars or more Anyway great video, thank you so much :D
I think the cold start waiting until the idle comes down to normal is probably the most important thing. If you read the Giulia forums a lot of people experience CELs if they drive before the cold start stops. What your saying is perfectly fine driving slowly to let it warm up is fine. I basically let it cold start and once the idle is good I drive slowly untill 3 bars
An engine wears the most when oil is cold. The slowest way to warm an engine is let it idle. Start engine, wait about 10 sec, drive. Drive easy, don't rev, definitly don't lug. Also, lots more blowby past piston rings while idling to warming up. Oil contamination. You definitely don't want to warm engine by idling. Once all coolant gauge bars up to temp, oil still not up to temp. So if you want to treat engine right, gotta wait a good 10-15 after coolant up to temp. Oil temps always lag coolant temp warm up. As for shut down, best thing to do is just make sure the last 5 min of driving are done sedately. That'll give it time to cool turbo. Incidentally, that is what you're doing during cool down, cooling turbo. It'll get so hot, it'll coke the oil, burn it. Early turbo bearing demise. Early engine demise too from ineffective oil circulating in the days after coking.
I had a SAAB 9000 turbo with more than 340,000km with the original engine and turbo. All the HPs still there and people thought it was tuned but it wasn’t. As you say, always drive gently the last 5 minutes to let the turbo slowly cool down.
@@alfamods2.0T So good to hear! I don't own a new Giulia but I have a 4C Launch, a MiTo Quad and a `67 Giulia GT Veloce. Been watching to see if there are any gonzo issues with buying a Giulia Quad. My only stumbling block is that I live two hours away from a dealer. Think that would be an issue?
Great info as always! I recently bought a 2018 Q4 Ti Sport with 55k miles on the clock. It has full history which was important to me. From a recent video I watched I think you are at around similar mileage to me, do you feel good about the long term life of the motor and drivetrain? Is the motor as strong as it was when it had fewer miles? Curious how long you plan to keep the car and I was also wondering the maintenance schedule of the transmission and differential. My Alfa dealer told me there’s no set fluid change schedule on those components as they are ‘lifetime’ ‘sealed’. I’m not so sure, as I see on the forums some people have already changed their fluids. Thanks for all you do, keep it up!
On the giulia the reasoning behind letting the car finish cold start is not the catalyst. Read here www.giuliaforums.com/threads/do-you-warm-up-your-giulia-in-the-morning.32858/page-2
@@megasuperlexa2 the car runs rich on cold start driving around like that is not great for the engine. The manual on page 130 of the 2020 Giulia says “AFTER STARTING - WARMING UP THE ENGINE Proceed as follows: Travel slowly, letting the engine run at a reduced RPM, without accelerating suddenly. It is recommended to wait until the digital engine coolant temperature indicator starts to rise for maximum performance.” I’m just trying to help. You really shouldn’t just start the car and instantly drive quick. I can see with my OBD2 tool the Air fuel ratio runs rich during cold start.
I really appreciate all these Giulia video's with extremely valuable information! I think I've mentioned I have the 2019 Giulia same color as yours with the Nero package. And even though I only have 8,900 miles on mine, I truly get a lot from all the info your have provided over the last year! 👍 oh and did I fail to mention... Free Air Filter? 😂 Keep up the great work!!
Thank you so much! I will keep going and bring unique and interesting content. Not so much burn outs and racing but information and product reviews. I want to do the go pedal from madness next maybe a few more cosmetic modifications. Also yes the giveaway is almost over I will contact the winner in comments.
What does that do ? I wonder if that's part of my problem ,the last few times I got rid of the engine light, I ripped on it right out of the driveway...the light comes on when I stomp on it ??
Honestly I wouldn’t rip on it untill it warms up some. If your getting a CEL after cold start and driving may be your multiair unit eventually. The multiair unit is very sensitive to debris in the oil as well so it’s good to change it often and use the correct spec. Have you done spark plugs lately? Those are due at 36k
I would love to do that for you but I do not have a Stelvio to advise on placement. The way I did it on my Giulia was going to the dealership and discreetly taking measurements on a QV. You can honestly just eye ball it and it will look great.
@@devinmagee1948 factory 2017 2.0T springs were lower by almost 3/4 to 1 inch. If I was going to lower my car I would go this route since it’s OEM. shop.alfissimo.com/home/1562-2017-giulia-suspension-spring-set-rwd.html
You would need a tune never with the stock ECU tune. The Giulia doesn’t have a ethanol sensor and no company has made one. So if someone does come up with an e85 tune it will be single map meaning you can’t mix it with gas it will be limited to the percentage of ethanol the tune is created for.
@@Garyalfaromeo first have someone sit in your car and press the brakes and see if you have your lights. Check the parking lights. As far as the FCW go check the radar cover in the front bumper and check if it’s not obstructed or dirty sometimes rain or dirt will trigger those fwc warnings it’s a known issue.
US $132.00 | Real Carbon Fiber FRP Car Side Skirts Bodykit Bumper Side Skirts Cover Fits For Alfa Romeo Giulia Standard and Sport 2017-2020 a.aliexpress.com/_mMuhQSq I made an install video on this channel for them as well
Sure thing this is mobile 1 AFE 0w-30 API SP rating needed for LSPI protection www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-Advanced-Fuel-Economy-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-0W-30-5-qt/17034369
My 2021 Giulia Veloce's manual says the same for heavy usage (dusty roads, short trips, etc), but does not mention to change the oil at 4000miles. Only says that the oil have to be checked, and that the cockpit will show the oil change requirement if the quality of the oil is not good enough. The dealer said that 10000miles change is fine and the cockpit would show to change if necessary earlier. Plus I also watched a video about MultiAir engines, they recommended to change at every 6250miles (10000km), but the model was not mentioned in the video, maybe it was related to Giulietta, I'm not sure.
Thank you for watching! Is yours a North American or Euro? They may be different with the years as well mine is a 2018. It says “Severe Duty All Models Change Engine Oil at 4,000 miles (6,500 km) if the vehicle is operated in a dusty and off-road environment or is operated predominately at idle or only very low engine RPM's. This type of vehicle use is considered Severe Duty” I love your input because it may be different in your newer year. Thanks!
I was doing the 10k oil change on my 17 Giulia myself, mobile 1 oil and filter, but it resulted on a bad pump solenoid ( p06dd). Now I switched to penzoil and Mopar filter and I'm doing 5k oil changes
Here in Hungary almost all users apply Selenia oil, the service also suggest to use this one. But I believe more brand can be good. Do you say 5k miles or 5k kilometers?
@@alfamods2.0T thanks for the reply. I was thinking... with so many different options and changes from different years, it would be cool to have an all exclusive video explaining all the differences. Just a video idea. Thanks! And keep up the great content.
This Channel is underrated af keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for the info. I just got a 2017 Giulia and since I have never had a car like this, I have been trying to educate myself about proper care. Your channel seems to have more information verses just car flash. I appreciate you attention to detail.
Thank you so much! I am very glad that my audience can appreciate the information. I much rather be about info than just burnouts and music.
Dropping that alfa knowledge on us. Thanks
You welcome! Thanks for watching.
I’m glad you’re keeping up with the current Alfa (Gulia) community, need more content creators for this car/brand
I agree it’s such a great platform and I’m a very visual learner so I hope this helps others learn.
As someone who doesn't read the manual, these are really good and important info. Thanks! Keep these videos coming!
Thank you so much for the sub! I will defiantly keep the alfa community up to date and informed
The letting the car get some heat before going to high throttle is common to all cars, but as you said, rarely followed. The "cool down" from spirited driving is a turbo thing. It really should be stated on ALL modern cars as just about everything has a turbo these days, but yes, you want to let the oil cycle after it's cooled somewhat to prevent coking of the oil in the lines. My only addition to your advice on that is, if you were to say drive to a track day, yes, let it idle in the pits if possible to cool off, but if you're say ripping it on a curvy road in "Mexico", and then drive home in a normal manner, the drive home should be sufficient to do the 5 minute cool down process, and then just give it a good minute to relax before powering down.
Couldn’t have said it better my self your 100% on that advice
I don't understand the warming up procedure because sometimes it can take over 10 minutes just for 1 bar to appear if I'm idling. And it's wasting so much fuel too.
Tbh I just wait 1 minute and then i SLOOOWLY drive til i see that 1 bar which happens very quickly if you drive the car slowly instead of idling (especially in winter, seeing than 1 bar on idle takes forever). I only start driving faster once I see 3 bars or more
Anyway great video, thank you so much :D
I think the cold start waiting until the idle comes down to normal is probably the most important thing. If you read the Giulia forums a lot of people experience CELs if they drive before the cold start stops. What your saying is perfectly fine driving slowly to let it warm up is fine. I basically let it cold start and once the idle is good I drive slowly untill 3 bars
Me flooring it on start up 😂 and immediately turning it off after beating on it 😅
Really great points brotha!
Haha 😂 bro I laughed so hard at the comment. I feel you though I’m so used to my camaro and prius hop in drive like a mad man and turn off instantly
@@alfamods2.0T Lmfaooo 😂 I should probably take better care of both my Alfas
And genius engineer said - let's put start/stop system, Turbo will love that 😁
😂 Lol 100% the logic. My next video that I’m uploading tonight is on the squadra tune. Having the start stop tuned off is the best
An engine wears the most when oil is cold. The slowest way to warm an engine is let it idle. Start engine, wait about 10 sec, drive. Drive easy, don't rev, definitly don't lug.
Also, lots more blowby past piston rings while idling to warming up. Oil contamination. You definitely don't want to warm engine by idling.
Once all coolant gauge bars up to temp, oil still not up to temp. So if you want to treat engine right, gotta wait a good 10-15 after coolant up to temp. Oil temps always lag coolant temp warm up.
As for shut down, best thing to do is just make sure the last 5 min of driving are done sedately. That'll give it time to cool turbo.
Incidentally, that is what you're doing during cool down, cooling turbo. It'll get so hot, it'll coke the oil, burn it. Early turbo bearing demise. Early engine demise too from ineffective oil circulating in the days after coking.
I had a SAAB 9000 turbo with more than 340,000km with the original engine and turbo. All the HPs still there and people thought it was tuned but it wasn’t. As you say, always drive gently the last 5 minutes to let the turbo slowly cool down.
and thanks for the video, it turns attention to this important factor!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks
You have a lovely family.
Thank you! I am very happy and feel grateful everyday
@@alfamods2.0T So good to hear! I don't own a new Giulia but I have a 4C Launch, a MiTo Quad and a `67 Giulia GT Veloce. Been watching to see if there are any gonzo issues with buying a Giulia Quad. My only stumbling block is that I live two hours away from a dealer. Think that would be an issue?
Great channel and help!
Great info as always! I recently bought a 2018 Q4 Ti Sport with 55k miles on the clock. It has full history which was important to me. From a recent video I watched I think you are at around similar mileage to me, do you feel good about the long term life of the motor and drivetrain? Is the motor as strong as it was when it had fewer miles? Curious how long you plan to keep the car and I was also wondering the maintenance schedule of the transmission and differential. My Alfa dealer told me there’s no set fluid change schedule on those components as they are ‘lifetime’ ‘sealed’. I’m not so sure, as I see on the forums some people have already changed their fluids.
Thanks for all you do, keep it up!
Very informative video thanks.
Thank you for watching and commenting!
warmup is for car catalyst to start working properly. Most car manuals state modern engines do not require warmingup to function as intended.
On the giulia the reasoning behind letting the car finish cold start is not the catalyst. Read here
www.giuliaforums.com/threads/do-you-warm-up-your-giulia-in-the-morning.32858/page-2
@Alfamods unless I misinterpreted something, they all concur that long idling is a bad thing. I see no giulia-specific advice either.
@@megasuperlexa2 the car runs rich on cold start driving around like that is not great for the engine. The manual on page 130 of the 2020 Giulia says “AFTER STARTING - WARMING UP THE
ENGINE
Proceed as follows:
Travel slowly, letting the engine run at a reduced RPM, without accelerating suddenly.
It is recommended to wait until the digital engine coolant temperature indicator starts to rise for maximum performance.”
I’m just trying to help. You really shouldn’t just start the car and instantly drive quick. I can see with my OBD2 tool the Air fuel ratio runs rich during cold start.
I really appreciate all these Giulia video's with extremely valuable information! I think I've mentioned I have the 2019 Giulia same color as yours with the Nero package. And even though I only have 8,900 miles on mine, I truly get a lot from all the info your have provided over the last year! 👍
oh and did I fail to mention... Free Air Filter? 😂 Keep up the great work!!
Thank you so much! I will keep going and bring unique and interesting content. Not so much burn outs and racing but information and product reviews. I want to do the go pedal from madness next maybe a few more cosmetic modifications. Also yes the giveaway is almost over I will contact the winner in comments.
What does that do ? I wonder if that's part of my problem ,the last few times I got rid of the engine light, I ripped on it right out of the driveway...the light comes on when I stomp on it ??
Honestly I wouldn’t rip on it untill it warms up some. If your getting a CEL after cold start and driving may be your multiair unit eventually. The multiair unit is very sensitive to debris in the oil as well so it’s good to change it often and use the correct spec. Have you done spark plugs lately? Those are due at 36k
Could you post a link of where you got your fender badges please. Your car is beautiful brother
Thanks here you go!
madnessautoworks.com/start-shopping/exterior-upgrades-madness?product_id=300013316
Hi, I'd like to install Quadrifoglio badge on fenders on my Stelvio 2018,,, Can you tell me the fender dimensions? how to exactly replicate?
I would love to do that for you but I do not have a Stelvio to advise on placement. The way I did it on my Giulia was going to the dealership and discreetly taking measurements on a QV. You can honestly just eye ball it and it will look great.
That EGR noise drove me crazy the first time I heard it
Yeah it’s annoying, but at least we can rest at ease that it’s normal. My other cars never did this so it was new to me. Thanks for watching!
@@alfamods2.0T btw do you have any recommendations to address the wheel gap on these other than spending 3k on coilovers?
@@devinmagee1948 factory 2017 2.0T springs were lower by almost 3/4 to 1 inch. If I was going to lower my car I would go this route since it’s OEM.
shop.alfissimo.com/home/1562-2017-giulia-suspension-spring-set-rwd.html
@@alfamods2.0T You're clutch
I though the Petrol engine did not have an EGR?
Thanks bro
NP 😎 thanks for watching
Can you run ethanol on these??
You would need a tune never with the stock ECU tune. The Giulia doesn’t have a ethanol sensor and no company has made one. So if someone does come up with an e85 tune it will be single map meaning you can’t mix it with gas it will be limited to the percentage of ethanol the tune is created for.
Love your videos.. i heard the EGR sound coming from the engine yesterday in my 2017 guilia wat i need to do to prevent it ,???
It’s 100% normal and just part of the operation of the car. It’s annoying but don’t worry it’s not an issue. All 2.0T have this sounds. Thank you!!
My car is showing fcw service and brake light out warning for over a week now. Wat should i do ??
@@Garyalfaromeo first have someone sit in your car and press the brakes and see if you have your lights. Check the parking lights. As far as the FCW go check the radar cover in the front bumper and check if it’s not obstructed or dirty sometimes rain or dirt will trigger those fwc warnings it’s a known issue.
Where did you get your carbon fiber side skirts?
US $132.00 | Real Carbon Fiber FRP Car Side Skirts Bodykit Bumper Side Skirts Cover Fits For Alfa Romeo Giulia Standard and Sport 2017-2020
a.aliexpress.com/_mMuhQSq
I made an install video on this channel for them as well
What exhaust setup do you have?
I have the centerline comp 3 inch catback set up
Doesn't it bother you that the oil you use does not have the specifications mentioned in the manual i.e. 9.55535-GS1 OR MS-13340 ?
Read this forum on what meets spec and what does mobile 1 AFE meets spec of MS-13340.
www.giuliaforums.com/threads/new-oil-spec-for-2-0.44882/page-2
Ian i get a link to the oil you use?
Sure thing this is mobile 1 AFE 0w-30 API SP rating needed for LSPI protection
www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-Advanced-Fuel-Economy-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-0W-30-5-qt/17034369
My 2021 Giulia Veloce's manual says the same for heavy usage (dusty roads, short trips, etc), but does not mention to change the oil at 4000miles. Only says that the oil have to be checked, and that the cockpit will show the oil change requirement if the quality of the oil is not good enough. The dealer said that 10000miles change is fine and the cockpit would show to change if necessary earlier. Plus I also watched a video about MultiAir engines, they recommended to change at every 6250miles (10000km), but the model was not mentioned in the video, maybe it was related to Giulietta, I'm not sure.
Thank you for watching! Is yours a North American or Euro? They may be different with the years as well mine is a 2018. It says “Severe Duty All Models
Change Engine Oil at 4,000 miles
(6,500 km) if the vehicle is operated in a
dusty and off-road environment or is
operated predominately at idle or only
very low engine RPM's. This type of
vehicle use is considered Severe Duty”
I love your input because it may be different in your newer year. Thanks!
@@alfamods2.0T yes, it is from Europe...
I was doing the 10k oil change on my 17 Giulia myself, mobile 1 oil and filter, but it resulted on a bad pump solenoid ( p06dd). Now I switched to penzoil and Mopar filter and I'm doing 5k oil changes
Here in Hungary almost all users apply Selenia oil, the service also suggest to use this one. But I believe more brand can be good. Do you say 5k miles or 5k kilometers?
@@BalazsDori Miles, I'm in the US
Hey, great video. Unrelated, but do all alfa romeo guilias come with brembos?
Yes they come with 4 piston standard Brembos in the front. The QV comes with 6 piston in the front and 4 piston in the rear. Standard.
@@alfamods2.0T thanks for the reply. I was thinking... with so many different options and changes from different years, it would be cool to have an all exclusive video explaining all the differences. Just a video idea. Thanks! And keep up the great content.
What tires you got on?
I wanna get my Giliua tuned, I heard Squadra is one of the best. Also I’m looking for a good exhaust.
I would 100% recommend squadra 12k miles so far zero issues and centerline is good for exhaust
@@alfamods2.0T Bet thank you, I might document my journey on RUclips with the upgrades
@@PROblue07 you should! It would awesome to watch another build