A good video, Chris. You described how microtonal subtle imperfections over perfect pitching within note transitions leaves the original vibe and flavour the vocalist wanted to deliver. Pitch correction should never be done a 100% unless you want some special robotic effect on the vocals. This goes for even flutes or other bowed instruments as well when you need to tune them.
This was very useful. As a beginner, I thought I should be straightening curves and bringing things down that were beyond the box, and wondered about the extra boxes that wouldn't be on a score of the vocal.
Thanks Chris. I finished going segment by segment on a vocal yesterday. Probably over did corrections but I did it without artifacts. Lots of splitting and tweaking! This video makes the process much clearer! Thanks!
Nice one! Probably going to watch later, but rule 1 is obviously use Cubase Variaudio :) I do find doing format correction with more extreme moves (whole notes and larger) really helps as well when you're working on harmony stacks. I am generally a lot gentler with things like smoothing, pitch correction on lead vocals, and more heavy handed on harmonies/ backing vocals for tightness.
Another gem Chris, I love using this on monophonic instruments as well. Retaining the nuances of a performance is key as you alluded. Powerful is an understatement where VariAudio is concerned, I sense an Audiowarp video coming ; ) Cheers dude
I use Melodyne to tune my bass guitar and even guitars if I'm not playing chords. There is a polyphonic function, but it doesn't do so well with picking out the right notes. Too many overtones or something. This is really helpful if you have an instrument that's set up a bit poorly or a musician who's not the best player. Heck, even if you are a good player, it's easy to bend a note 10 cents sharp in the middle of an otherwise good performance. It's great to have tools like this.
Chris, I discovered your channel last year and I have to say, it is a gold mine of information and tips for a Cubase user like myself. Merci 1000 fois! 🤘
I didn't know about the straightening range on the vibrato part, thank you for the education! Normally I use the the key of the song to set the notes and then do the adjustments.
Master Chris. I’m happy to see you again. I’m way behind your updates because my pc computer is totally crashed. I’m planning to buy a iMac and later go back to your teaching
Hi Chris, appreciate your small changes on the vocal pitches and agree that the "raw material" must have a certain quality to finally get good results with the varioaudio-tool. This ist the best case to do that. I tend to firstly get everything close to pitch with the "correct pitch" slider to get into detail afterwards. But anyway, there are many ways to deal with it. Thanks for the info. Cheers.
Lots of good info here. I never think to slice up long notes like you do. On that last long rising note I would probably have moved the tilt anchor all the way to one side and level it from the other end, then adjust the pitch, but your slicing way worked well.
I personally use Melodyne. I find it to be quite transparent and forgiving. I still want to get better at it though. I will occasionally end up with weird artifacts. It's usually on the S's and other sibilant consonants. Generally if a word or two can't be tuned and have it sound natural, I find it simplest to just punch in for that word. But I have that luxury. I'm the singer on my tracks. It's obviously not as simple to do a punch in if you're mixing someone else's work. Also, I agree that you have to use your ears. I can't tell you how many times a note sounded great in context but Melodyne told me it was completely "wrong." This is especially true when a singer sings a note quickly before sliding up or down to another note. Often they're WAY off. But if it didn't jump out to you before analyzing it on screen.
Great video about this theme, Chris! That consideration about the buffer zone seems to be important. Now we need to wait for the “someone got upset” version 😹
another great video, stuff I already know but there s always something new to learn, details on details but they make the difference..cheers from Croatia
Thanks Chris for another great video. 2 quick questions: 1. I understand creating "buffer" when straightening few segments at ones to keep the transitions smooth. But what when you for example lower in pitch one segment in the middle (and leave the previous and next ones intact). Should you create same buffer as well? Or when changing pitch of segments transition will stay smooth? 2. When dealing with longer notes what's the advantage of tuning the note first, then cutting it into pieces and the snapping those pieces to the note instead of just only moving the whole segment in pitch? Thank you
After last update Cubase released Melodene in essential version, I like to use both Variaudio and Melodyne, different algorithms give different possibilities but Melodyne in this version has no curve adjustment
Great info and nice voice too! Is there a way to make in the Key Editor scale note guide brighter or even change the color? Also what does the different colors stand for ? Thanks so much for your time.
Another great video Chris, thanks for sharing ! Going to be mixing a hell of a lot of vocals pretty soon, so this has come just at the right time! This will really help me, especially as i have not mixed a lot of vocals before, so your video will be invaluable i feel! Thanks again. Take care.
nice video but you are missing the coolest feature in Vari Audio where you can tune to the chord track. It makes it so easy to tune your vocals and guitars etc to the correct key if you are not too comfortable with scales like me
Hi Chris. Love your videos. Please can you share how you export a final vocal - say to a mix engineer - with VariAudio written to the file. I’ve tried everything; but still the result does not match the same values as the original. I have purchased your courses before and I’d pay for this help. Thanks very much.
Been listen to Blood Sugar Sex Magic, by the chilli peppers.... And at first I was not acclimated to the bluesy off pitch style. But as I've been listening to it more again.... It's crazy good. It's insane what we're doing with pitch. We're neutering music..... We're taking the soul out of vocals too much. Not everyone. But it's messed with our perception. Modern music on general. So much of it. I like what you're doing here with this song. Reminds me a little of the Cars and other cool 80's pop rock.
Chris, how do i make variaudio audition sound go to cue mix in Cubase? Sometimes i just want to fix something fast while recording (and i'm already with my Headphones on) BUT when i want to adjust a note in Variaudio quickly i CAN"T hear the fixes when i move the notes around because i'm hearing the Cue in my Headphones, when i go to the control room section on my Cue mix and switch the input to MIX it doesn't work either :( Any suggestions?
Hey Krish Please make a video for beginners podcaster processing cues using cubase. Please, I request you. I am Shantanu from India. Love your tutorials. Thanks.
Thanks Chris for helpful video! But I have one question. Cubase Audio Performance window is red after correct vocal line by variaudio (processing overload). Mayby it is because of cubase correct all audio in real time. How render audio with variaudio correction?
Love Variaudio!. Thanks for the vid Chris! It would be wonderful if Variaudio did multi-phonic correction in the future. Do yuo know if they're working on that?
There was a free version of Melodyne essentials that we got with Cubase 12, but do we need at all that essential version of Melodyne, when we get Variaudio with this much power already inside Cubase?
Hey mate, love you're staff ! Question : With Shaperbox or LFO tool how would you side chain the bass with the kick in the easiest/best way? if its trigger point, how do you do that? and if not please show us the best way :D **idk about version 3.2 but in ver2 the cubase side chain button is not there on the top left of the plugin for some reason. HUGE THANKS
Hi Chris ! I use Cubase 12 to mix and master almost all my audio projects. Only that I've ran into a little problem. I recorded a Christmas Carol with my fiancee and the problem is that she cannot hit a few notes I mean the right way. So I tryed to fix her problem with VariAudio but still not what I was hopping for. How can I fix this and make her sound more natural without sounding robotic?
@@mixdownonline Tell me please. When I tune vocals in vari-audio, I capture the note of the vocal and when I move it anywhere, this note does not sound (does not make a sound), where can I enable this function in cubes? I can't find information.
Please why is it that if i want to do pitch correction, once i shift it one key up or down, the voice will start sounding so weak, and will go away from the normal sound, pls help me
Great tutorial but this is a slippery slope. The proverbial death by a thousand cuts. As with rhythm where the vibe is between the beats, idiosyncratic vocal events are precisely where the individual's artistic expression dwells. There'll come a day when this ridiculous fad of pitch correcting everything will be looked back upon with disdainful amusement. 'Til then, thanks for the pointers! ;)
A good video, Chris. You described how microtonal subtle imperfections over perfect pitching within note transitions leaves the original vibe and flavour the vocalist wanted to deliver. Pitch correction should never be done a 100% unless you want some special robotic effect on the vocals. This goes for even flutes or other bowed instruments as well when you need to tune them.
This was very useful. As a beginner, I thought I should be straightening curves and bringing things down that were beyond the box, and wondered about the extra boxes that wouldn't be on a score of the vocal.
Thanks Chris. I finished going segment by segment on a vocal yesterday. Probably over did corrections but I did it without artifacts. Lots of splitting and tweaking! This video makes the process much clearer! Thanks!
Nice one! Probably going to watch later, but rule 1 is obviously use Cubase Variaudio :) I do find doing format correction with more extreme moves (whole notes and larger) really helps as well when you're working on harmony stacks. I am generally a lot gentler with things like smoothing, pitch correction on lead vocals, and more heavy handed on harmonies/ backing vocals for tightness.
Agreed, fellow Plapper!
Another gem Chris, I love using this on monophonic instruments as well. Retaining the nuances of a performance is key as you alluded. Powerful is an understatement where VariAudio is concerned, I sense an Audiowarp video coming ; ) Cheers dude
I use Melodyne to tune my bass guitar and even guitars if I'm not playing chords. There is a polyphonic function, but it doesn't do so well with picking out the right notes. Too many overtones or something.
This is really helpful if you have an instrument that's set up a bit poorly or a musician who's not the best player. Heck, even if you are a good player, it's easy to bend a note 10 cents sharp in the middle of an otherwise good performance.
It's great to have tools like this.
I didn't know about the buffer zones! This is good stuff! Thanks yet again my friend!
Chris, I discovered your channel last year and I have to say, it is a gold mine of information and tips for a Cubase user like myself. Merci 1000 fois! 🤘
Do you have any tips on bleed when pitch correcting for example vocal tracks from a band live recording?
Excellent real-life guide, thx so much
You are the best !!!!!
I didn't know about the straightening range on the vibrato part, thank you for the education! Normally I use the the key of the song to set the notes and then do the adjustments.
Master Chris. I’m happy to see you again. I’m way behind your updates because my pc computer is totally crashed. I’m planning to buy a iMac and later go back to your teaching
You’re such a great teacher.
Thank you :-)
Hi Chris, appreciate your small changes on the vocal pitches and agree that the "raw material" must have a certain quality to finally get good results with the varioaudio-tool. This ist the best case to do that. I tend to firstly get everything close to pitch with the "correct pitch" slider to get into detail afterwards. But anyway, there are many ways to deal with it. Thanks for the info. Cheers.
Lots of good info here. I never think to slice up long notes like you do. On that last long rising note I would probably have moved the tilt anchor all the way to one side and level it from the other end, then adjust the pitch, but your slicing way worked well.
Thanks Chris! My Variaudio technique needed more work than my singing. Actually I suppose that's lucky...
great video thanks!
You're welcome!
Great video! That buffer thing is really interesting (didnt know about it!) Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
I personally use Melodyne. I find it to be quite transparent and forgiving. I still want to get better at it though. I will occasionally end up with weird artifacts. It's usually on the S's and other sibilant consonants.
Generally if a word or two can't be tuned and have it sound natural, I find it simplest to just punch in for that word. But I have that luxury. I'm the singer on my tracks. It's obviously not as simple to do a punch in if you're mixing someone else's work.
Also, I agree that you have to use your ears. I can't tell you how many times a note sounded great in context but Melodyne told me it was completely "wrong." This is especially true when a singer sings a note quickly before sliding up or down to another note. Often they're WAY off. But if it didn't jump out to you before analyzing it on screen.
great sir
Great video about this theme, Chris! That consideration about the buffer zone seems to be important.
Now we need to wait for the “someone got upset” version 😹
That’s exactly the way I work 😊
Boss Chris, thanks for this opportunity I don't take it for granted.
How can the pitch correction sound while pitching the vocal.. Just like cubase 5
Fantastic video as usual-Thank You!
Yes, this was very helpful. Thank you sir!
Glad I could help!
another great video, stuff I already know but there s always something new to learn, details on details but they make the difference..cheers from Croatia
Very good tutorial! 🍀
Awesome Chris! Thanks😎
Thanks Chris for another great video.
2 quick questions:
1. I understand creating "buffer" when straightening few segments at ones to keep the transitions smooth. But what when you for example lower in pitch one segment in the middle (and leave the previous and next ones intact). Should you create same buffer as well? Or when changing pitch of segments transition will stay smooth?
2. When dealing with longer notes what's the advantage of tuning the note first, then cutting it into pieces and the snapping those pieces to the note instead of just only moving the whole segment in pitch?
Thank you
After last update Cubase released Melodene in essential version, I like to use both Variaudio and Melodyne, different algorithms give different possibilities but Melodyne in this version has no curve adjustment
Great info and nice voice too! Is there a way to make in the Key Editor scale note guide brighter or even change the color? Also what does the different colors stand for ? Thanks so much for your time.
Very helpful, many thanks!
Wow Chris your a star man
Another great video Chris, thanks for sharing ! Going to be mixing a hell of a lot of vocals pretty soon, so this has come just at the right time! This will really help me, especially as i have not mixed a lot of vocals before, so your video will be invaluable i feel! Thanks again. Take care.
Thank you Sir ....Love from India😍
nice video but you are missing the coolest feature in Vari Audio where you can tune to the chord track. It makes it so easy to tune your vocals and guitars etc to the correct key if you are not too comfortable with scales like me
Hi Chris. Love your videos. Please can you share how you export a final vocal - say to a mix engineer - with VariAudio written to the file. I’ve tried everything; but still the result does not match the same values as the original. I have purchased your courses before and I’d pay for this help. Thanks very much.
This was a very helpful video Chris thank you.
bro that's exactly what I needed , you are awesome, thanks
Been listen to Blood Sugar Sex Magic, by the chilli peppers.... And at first I was not acclimated to the bluesy off pitch style. But as I've been listening to it more again.... It's crazy good. It's insane what we're doing with pitch. We're neutering music..... We're taking the soul out of vocals too much. Not everyone. But it's messed with our perception. Modern music on general. So much of it. I like what you're doing here with this song. Reminds me a little of the Cars and other cool 80's pop rock.
Glad you like my approach! It's very easy to pitch correct and remove all the feel of the performance. I try not to do so, cause feel is good :-)
very helpfull turtorial, thank you 🙏🏼
Very nice video.. Thank you
Doesn''t seem to have caught up with Melodyn, but crazy good for stock DAW tuning!
True that!
Chris, how do i make variaudio audition sound go to cue mix in Cubase?
Sometimes i just want to fix something fast while recording (and i'm already with my Headphones on) BUT when i want to adjust a note in Variaudio quickly i CAN"T hear the fixes when i move the notes around because i'm hearing the Cue in my Headphones, when i go to the control room section on my Cue mix and switch the input to MIX it doesn't work either :(
Any suggestions?
Well presented Chris :-)
What do you mean by artifacts Chris?
Hey Krish Please make a video for beginners podcaster processing cues using cubase. Please, I request you. I am Shantanu from India. Love your tutorials. Thanks.
Thanks Chris for helpful video! But I have one question. Cubase Audio Performance window is red after correct vocal line by variaudio (processing overload). Mayby it is because of cubase correct all audio in real time. How render audio with variaudio correction?
Love Variaudio!. Thanks for the vid Chris! It would be wonderful if Variaudio did multi-phonic correction in the future. Do yuo know if they're working on that?
There was a free version of Melodyne essentials that we got with Cubase 12, but do we need at all that essential version of Melodyne, when we get Variaudio with this much power already inside Cubase?
Do use Melodyne at all or work strictly with the built in Cubase correction?
How can i see all the notes name in piano roll in cubase just like you?? I can only C note
Hey mate, love you're staff ! Question : With Shaperbox or LFO tool how would you side chain the bass with the kick in the easiest/best way? if its trigger point, how do you do that? and if not please show us the best way :D
**idk about version 3.2 but in ver2 the cubase side chain button is not there on the top left of the plugin for some reason.
HUGE THANKS
How do you get those colors to work when you bring up the vocal in the edit window? I know thats a simple question.
Hi Chris ! I use Cubase 12 to mix and master almost all my audio projects. Only that I've ran into a little problem. I recorded a Christmas Carol with my fiancee and the problem is that she cannot hit a few notes I mean the right way. So I tryed to fix her problem with VariAudio but still not what I was hopping for. How can I fix this and make her sound more natural without sounding robotic?
Thanks a helpful video!👍👌
Thank you!
Sorry, the last response was a spam message not sent by me :-(
super vidéos. comme à chaque fois, on apprend plein de trucs super intéressants et en plus j'utilise cubase...^^
Hi Chris, I have question. If I have singer who singing without vibrato, can we make nice vibrato with Vari audio on too straighten vocals?
What is track to play in start?
Thank You!!!!!!!
Of course!
@@mixdownonline Tell me please. When I tune vocals in vari-audio, I capture the note of the vocal and when I move it anywhere, this note does not sound (does not make a sound), where can I enable this function in cubes? I can't find information.
Hey! What's the song name in the intro? 🤓
Great
why does cubase give artifacts when you pitch correct with variaudio?
Please why is it that if i want to do pitch correction, once i shift it one key up or down, the voice will start sounding so weak, and will go away from the normal sound, pls help me
Seems like that long vocal part is asking for a delay throw. :)
Varicool
Jenny, Jenny, who can I turn to?
Great tutorial but this is a slippery slope. The proverbial death by a thousand cuts. As with rhythm where the vibe is between the beats, idiosyncratic vocal events are precisely where the individual's artistic expression dwells. There'll come a day when this ridiculous fad of pitch correcting everything will be looked back upon with disdainful amusement. 'Til then, thanks for the pointers! ;)
lol. You want it to sound natural? Sing it in key….
🙄😤😒
Please we don't wanna see you don't bother turning the camera to you
Please, don't watch my videos, cause now I just want to show my face even more!
Please we don't wanna see you don't bother turning the camera to you