Los Angeles Air Raid Sirens Walk 7: Some Very Special Sirens
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- Опубликовано: 26 янв 2021
- After visiting three sirens we've seen on previous walks (and still confused as to what two of them are) I visit some new and interesting sirens many have been asking for in the comments.
Oh, and be sure to watch till the end for some bonus footage.
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The motor of the 2T22 is in between the sets of sound projectors. That little hat on the top is a cover for the upper intake so it wont suck in and make mashed potato out of a bird while its running. It also prevents rain and snow from getting in and corroding the 12 port chopper.
I wonder what mashed bird would taste like lol
@@Anzac1 lead paint and pieces of rust lol
Or a squirrel
@@laaeeh Squirrel yogurt
South Georgia Sirens LOL
Awesome. Good meeting you at the conference!
Wow, I didn't even know about that B&M Siren ! It looks like the typical "bench grinder" design mainly used on UK made sirens ! As for the 2T22 siren I suggest you to find a video of one on RUclips and listen, the two tones are harmonic so it sounds nice ! For some reason RUclips never gave me the notification of this video even though I activated all notifications from your channel. It happens, it's a well known RUclips thing sadly.
There's currently a 3T22 on ebay for $1500 in Wisconsin.
awesome siren video i think the siren at the fire stations would probably be powered up
The official name for the 500s in LA are Model 500A-SHTT. It stands for Single Head Two Tone.
Strange. I thought SHTT’s were 10/12 while AT’s were 9/12 like the ones shown here.
@@MasenMonster it's the other way around
@@natestrains1166 Proof? I need a manual or something for proof
@@MasenMonster I believe Edaan Friedman has seen the tags on these. You also have to remember that these were made before Federal changed their nomenclature. The later models use the new nomenclature.
Interesting thing to note about the LA Model 5s/7s, one of then had came down and tag shots revealed it to be marked as a 10HP, designated as a type 10.
Also the Cut down fedelcodes are likely mostly dual toned sirens, rather than single toned.
First siren looks like a C3 1/2, which is like a Model 5/7 but with the hat at the top and cowling underneath much closer together.
11:52 you accidentally put up the middle finger 💀
I tried climbing the 2nd siren at the park lmao.
The b&m is definitely an old relic. I’ve lived near the area for around 10 years and I’ve never heard it go off.
The 2t22 on Downey road hasn’t ever gone off either. Not even for the recycling plant fire back in 2014 or 2015
The 2t22 near the LA river hasn’t ever gone off either.
VFD doesn’t have a fire siren system. Pretty sure they’re part of the LA County Civil Defense system.
If you want something active, Torrance, APU, and Orange County have active sirens. I’m not sure about vinvale terminal though.
Vinvale's is active. For sure.
Orange County doesn’t really have sirens because SONGS siren system was removed in July of 2019 because SONGS was decommissioned. Most of them were north of the nuclear generating station. There were 17 in Camp Pendleton. The only sirens you may find are old ones or laguna beach or Newport Beach. The San Onofre sirens that use to be part of the NPP or NGS (Nuclear generating station) are gone except some on Camp Pendleton and the Thunderbolt 1003 on the reactor building.
@@thatkidfromsmartsville2012 I meant northwestern orange county. Huntington Beach has a siren system as well as a few other cities in that area, excluding south/southeast LA County. Beverly hills is getting a siren system though.
@@ThisHandleIsNotTaken. True! There Is No Updates Of The System In Beverly Hills Though...
But I Hope It Comes True!
@@ThisHandleIsNotTaken. the Vinvale Terminal one had a video a while back of it sounding but idk where to find it again
@@theray2009 oh yeah I uploaded some found across the internet
Pretty sure the emergency signal was referring to the traffic light that was on the top of the pole, you caught a glimpse of it on camera. Usually when there’s an emergency, that light will turn red or flash red to let the fire engine out of the garage without dealing with traffic. A lot of fire departments on busy roads here in Florida have the same emergency signal signs with traffic lights specifically assigned to the exit of the garages. Doubt it had anything to do with the 2T22 but it doesn’t rule out the siren from being used for fire calls. You could always call the department or ask someone in the firehouse if they use the sirens for fire calls.
You might be right. I was five hours in at the end of a 9 mile walk so had siren on the brain. I'll check the footage out because I don't recall seeing a signal light on the street, but it's not beyond doubt that I overlooked it. Either way, I like that to 'could' also mean the siren. Thanks for the info.
@@DayTrippingAdventurer Oh, c'mon Doug! The sign was on the cross bar holding two traffic signals flanking the sign! 🤓
In all seriousness, I wished more departments put those up. Displays continuous green until the firehouse gets a callout, then it turns red. When I was a volunteer, I was amazed at the number of drivers who considered fire equipment as "annoyances" and didn't bother yielding. Those signals gives the apparatus a fighting chance in getting out of the firehouse!
@@tommanion5504 You'd think every firehouse or fire station along a busy street would have a fire signal! In my hometown (Dayton, Ohio), many of the older fire stations along the busier roads have flashing yellow lights that turn red whenever a firetruck runs over the concrete that leads onto the main road. There's a trigger buried underneath the concrete that can only be triggered by the weight of one of the trucks which sets off the signal.
6:24 this is actually a model 5T because look at the chopper it has two sets of hole
Wow there are two more 2t22s that i didn't know existed! The 2t22 is.the american version of the classic 12/10 port British ww2 air raid siren. Same port configuration But a little higher pitch Because of the 60hz north american current vs the 50hz style British current. The 2/3t22 is the classic storm siren used aross the Midwest & back east. Originally developed for the cold war,they have and still set a unique standard for alerting communities till this day. There still are a few out there still in service today. They weigh around 500 lbs fully assembled. The 3t22 weighs slightly more with the additional upper and lower intake doors and solenoids for 3rd signal capabilities...
Just wanted to correct: it's 50 Hz for Europe and 60 Hz for North America 😉
@@imaginox9 thanks for clarifying! And it’s corrected!😊
@@hobbeekid No problem 🙂
Fresno California has SD 10s
The first siren is probably a flattened Model 5/7
The air raid siren is called 3t22
Nice one! I think Los Angels haves a Thunderbolt 2000 I don't really know.
I've located several 1000s just east of the city, but I'm not able to track down any 2000. Will keep looking for you.
@@DayTrippingAdventurer Do you happen to know where those 1000s are? West Covina?
From the map I have one looks to be across the wash from the Sees Candies store on Hudson Ln & W Cameron Ave. The other looks to by on S Citrus just south of where it crosses the wash, across the street from the Christ Lutheran Church. Hope that helps.
@@DayTrippingAdventurer Ah ok. Those Thunderbolts look to be a part of the West Covina CD System. There was a thunderbolt at E Garvey Ave S and S Lark Ellen Ave. There are also 2 SD-10s at the West Covina Fire Station 3 and one at E Merced Valley somewhat next to the Shepherd of The Valley Lutheren Church. There are a couple more thunderbolt littered throughout Southern California, being Buena Park, Hawthorne and Monrovia. I have a video of one of 2 thunderbolt in Palm Springs on my other channel which you can get pretty close up to.
Cheers!
And this is why I want to go to Los Angeles
6:40 - I'm pretty sure it's a model 5T
6:22 yes definitely look very close in the 5, it has 2 sets of ports in a chopper which means it’s a 5T
There Is 3t22 in a town called Anna, IL i am going to record.
Nice
Hello, I have some information for you.
The ones with the bigger “Bird House” Covers are Federal Signal Model 7T’s. These are dual tone and 3 Phase.
The ones with the smaller “Bird House” Covers are Federal Signal Model 3L’s, They are single tone and 3 Phase.
The SD-10’s are 3 Phase and dual tone.
The Rotation sirens are Federal Signal 500-SH-TT’s (Single horn two tone)
You are right about the 2T22 and the B&M AR-20-7
If you have any other questions please feel free to reach out. (All of the Vernon sirens are Inactive.)
I actually just used one of your comments in the video I recorded today about the Model 3Ls.
I do have to remember the letters when I talk about the sirens. 7T, 500 SH-TT, 3L etc.
Always grateful for your info, thank you!
@@DayTrippingAdventurer no problem
The emergency signal is for fire units going out
2:28 yes is a Mach model 3
I would be terrified if I hear that in Los Angeles
that first different siren is called the B&N or B&M 15 AR 5 wow those are very rare
And that second siren is called the 3t22. If you are wondering what that stands for the 2 of the 2t22 means that it can do 2 signals alert, and attack. The 22 part means it has 22 horns. I hope this helped you out there.
The B&N looked to be in bad shape. I know are efforts to refurbish sirens around the country, just not sure if there's any real effort going on in Los Angeles at the moment. I think both the T22 sirens I saw were 2T22 because I don't recall seeing any selonoid boxes on it. Thank you for the additional info!
The only B&M 15-AR-5 is in Sierra Madre, the one he found was a 20-AR-7
First one that you saw was hor siro drone
The first siren is a Model 3 [Short shroud]
nope it’s a model 5 somebody climbed one
Wait! That's a 5T! or 7T! As you can see with the Stator/Chopper! 6:25
Its a 7T. From what I've learned, there are no 5s in Los Angeles. Even the ones that are cut down are Model 7s.
@@DayTrippingAdventurer Oh! Wow! I didn't know that! That's cool!
6:24 If you see a dual tone rotor its a 5T or 7T.
9:09 THATS A B&M Model 15-AR-5! EXTREMELY RARE!!!
I know very little of these things other than the info others give me, so thank you for the correction!
@@nancylucas7815 20-AR-7, bigger and more powerful version of the 15-AR-5
We call those model 5 or 7s, untill you are able to verify it, you call them model 5/7s. This is the correct term for them, in siren enthusiast terms.
and there are short-housing ones called model 3s
@@therailcat9790 correct, however, to our knowledge, LA never purchased any model 3s. I have a few of those cut down ones here in Ogden UT, and have taken pictures of their tags, and their model 5TTs.
@@Sirens1003 I never heard about model 5TTs. Is there a difference between those and model 5Ts?
@@therailcat9790 they seem to be shorter. We call them 3Ts here, because that’s what they look like. Until we got a tag pic, we thought they were 3Ts. I can post some pictures when I get around my computer on the community tab on my channel if you’re interested.
@@Sirens1003 I’ve seen a 3T at WSS
note* 8:51 B&M AR,s are very rare there are about 7 to 8 in the whole world
LA abandoned their siren system way back in the 70’s
None are active in the city
The system actually lasted until the late 80s, but yes, the system is no longer in use. (unless you count that one time Disney Hall used some downtown for their War of the Worlds performance)
2:16 that is a fedelcode mach 7
And, if you would like to hear a 2T22 siren, check this out! This is actually a 3T22, but they sound the same. This one's bottom solenoid box is james shut, so it sounds a little weird, but here you go...m.ruclips.net/video/acn4BTqReSc/видео.html
Thanks for that. I walk around and see all these sirens and am always interested on how they would sound. One day I may even get to hear some in person so I can appreciate their volume.
I am 100% sure it’s a Federal Model 3
Hor siro-drone 1941-late 60s
Actually the one that you keep getting confused on that’s a model 5t if you zoom in on the chopper you will see that it’s dual tone
Yeah, i eventually learned that its a 500 TT-SH Two tone - single horn (if I got that correct)
@@DayTrippingAdventurer yes you did
I saw the 500- DHTT Version of the air raid siren in my city and it was turning left and right. Do you know why it was turned on and up and running? A bit nervous since the internet said that we don’t need use them anymore....
From what I've read and learned, sirens were the main form of alert from WWII through the Cold War into the 80s. By the 90s sirens were no longer used for Civil Defense. Mostly because we had cell phones and pagers on nearly every person and the ability to detect and relay foreign launch information had gotten to the point where we'd have ample warning. And anything that got close enough to launch right off the coast would be too close for a warning to do much good.
Where sirens are in use now is for regional emergencies like fires, tornadoes, and tsunamis. So there's only a few left active in the Los Angeles area where I'm walking. One of which is on Catalina Island, which makes sense as a tsunami warning system.
Thanks for the comment!
The FS 500 sirens (all versions) are known for their rotating mechanism (which uses a belt) to become loose overtime and so the siren rotates when it's not activated because of the wind blowing on it. So if the siren wasn't sounding but rotating from left to right that's maybe why. If the siren was doing full 360° circles without sounding then it was maybe either a test of the rotator or it was supposed to sound and the siren was broken but not the rotator.
It’s cold war siren and World War II
2:30 I’m pretty sure it’s a Model 3 Siren but it doesn’t look the same.
It is a Model 3, Fedelcode Model 3L
@@imaginox9 Thanks for the clarification!
@@jackgaming0592 No problem !
8:58 no housing this is the housing
2:12 that is a hor Siro drone 12 port siren
It’s a model 3
If you go to RUclips studio where I created you’ll find it
Yassssss
Your close but not a H.O.R Siro Drone it is a Model 3 or a ACA Screamer
The 2t22 siren i a very comen
They are, but in Los Angeles County they are rare compared to all of the Cold War and WWII civil defense sirens that are still around.
Ezekie
3t22 is coded
Does these sirens test
The last time these sirens were tested was in 1986 (if memory serves me well)
Wow! That’s crazy. Good thing these things are still sitting here then!
I believe the city felt it would be too expensive to remove them. So, we get these pieces of Cold War history to see and appreciate.
Yea! I agree at least we get to see the rarities of this stuff who knows how long they could be here before removal
Where’s my gas powered mobile derecto you said it would be in the video
I may have been confused. But I'll get there.... eventually. I'm sort of making a sweep out from downtown LA and I think that siren is further out.
The 2 remaining Mobil Directo sirens are in Culver City, one is gas powered and on top of a museum (visible from the parking lot), the other is an electric version and is on a pole
2t22
Does the 20-AR-7 work?
I honestly don't know. Many people tell me that these sirens are bomb proof. Clean em, hit em with a little WD40, and they're spin up, however not sure if that particular one is still in use.
Eze0
First :D