I didn't have a problem understanding you. I would suggest using a thinset mortar under the base. Also wouldn't screw to the studs with a hammer drill. definitely overkill lol. If there is a gap put in a shim otherwise they will crack for sure. It's been a few years since I set one of these so I needed a refresher. this video was helpful. Thank you
So far this is the best video I have found in installing a shower kit without any unnecessary lengthy explanations, or trying to have cool camera angles. Simple and to the point, thank you!
Appreciate the video. I wasn't sure how to install the shower base on my project or install the base drain. My biggest concern was how high to leave the 2" pvc before installing the base. Very helpful and well done
Thank you! That 2" piece was my concern as well. Ideally, I could have kept it longer if I put the base in and studded around it, but you probably want the walls in first. Putting in the Oatey drain was tricky, but a pro tip on that would be to soap the rubber gasket.
I have set some of these by using a 1/2 in notched trowel and spreading thin set under them. When it sets up this shower base is solid as a rock. Not going anywhere.
I didn't see a reason for it. The drywall is high humidity surrounding the shower and on the adjacent walls, plus I was drilling right into the studs. I also think that having that open air behind it allows for some control over moisture that might find its way out of the shower. I'm no expert.
So no fasteners for the base to the studs? Was that standard expanding foam? Low rise? High rise? For the walls and back you could use small stainless washers to prevent the cracking of the lip.
No fasters for the base. Once you attach to the walls via the clips, it makes it more sturdy, but I still think the foam is essential to reducing rocking and filming it up. Once the drywall is in place, nothing moves at all. Washers would help prevent cracking but this material is so brittle it's almost impossible to prevent some cracking. The unit itself had a crack, I would recommend taking it out of the box before you leave the store - as big of a pain that might be. They do not pack these well and are not careful when transporting them.
This video help a lot I’m heading to my son house to put one of this he bought a new house and it came with a corner one real small so we’re going to put one of this 4 pice shower I’m going to ask him if we could do a RUclips video but he’s a really private one so will see 😄
Thank you for this video. I'm going to be installing a Sterling shower pan with the brass version of that Oatey no-caulk drain. Since 1-1/2" seems to stick up quite a bit, would 1-1/4" be an OK rough-in height for the drain pipe? Or did the higher part of the unevenly cut pipe stick up more than 1-1/2"?
The height of your floor drain is the tricky part. If you could put your Oatey drain down first, with your floor pan, and get a measurement on the floor drain that will ensure you have enough room to make everything fit once you cut it without cutting too low. Another note is to put dawn on your Oatey drain. That rubber was rough to get on the floor drain. Hope this helps and good luck!
Looks like your base was not seated on the floor as it rocked from side to side when you stood on it. I wonder if the loose material you left under the base caused a chunk to be between the floor and the base. Surprised you did not clean the floor first and shim the base as needed.
The floor itself was not even. I think this was partially do to a slight grade and also where I dug up the ground to run the plumbing. Shimming was a good idea, all hindsight.
You just keep smashing the foam past where it wants to be naturaly. Then the pan wants to spring back up when you get off it. And you probably put to much weight on it. The bottom will WANT to spring back up. This defets the foam. Video was helpfull.
For waterproofing purposes, is it recommended to also cover the fastener heads in the cement board prior to tile installation? Or will the thinset itself serve as waterproofing protection at the time the tiles are installed? Just curious about common practice. I will be using the new Hardiebacker Hydro Defense cement board in my shower, which is supposed to be waterproof regardless.
Did you put a door on this shower? I'm curious if the wall sections and curb are strong enough to support the weight of a door, or if they'll crack (even if there's a stud behind them). I've only seen people put a curtain rod on top of these showers.
Where are the small clips that guide the bottoms of the walls into place and screw into the studs? Also isn't there supposed to be caulk at the front corners of the side walls at the base? Of course there is caulk across the tops of the walls and down the front to keep any water from seeping behind the walls. All per Sterlings instructions.
The Sterling shower systems are supposed to have built in seals and no caulk is required. But refer to the directions to be sure. Not sure if all the Sterling products are the same.
Thanks for posting, but as previous comments pointed out the music was highly irritating. I had to stop watching at 1:30. I'm starting to think that RUclips has some kind of experiment running that tests people's tolerance with droning, repetitive music. It's everywhere.
Don't use foam under your shower pan, use Mortar per the instructions. Plumbers putty is not recommended on these plastic shower pans. Foam has a lot of expansion strength and can push your base out of level and out of position against the wall as it expands. It may also have a chemical reaction with the plastics used in the shower base. You also leveled your base on the sloped shower pan, which means it was probably not really level. You should use the edges that are flat to make sure your base is level. You also did not install the clips on the base that is called for in the instructions. So you pretty much did everything wrong that was possible to do wrong. The only useful bit was showing me that kind of drain connection, which I didn't know about before.
I thought your video was great! And it answered many questions. However, next time, leave out the music. It was annoying and loud - to the point that you were difficult to hear sometimes.
Hack job. You did exactly what Sterling said not to do. It should be plumb, use a cloth base pad or mortar, not expanding foam! And click the sides in. No caulk is needed.
Random Reviews & How-To's thank you for taking the time to make this video. This culture of rude mouthy internet people is mind blowing. There are other ways to express that maybe the install want followed 100% to specs
I didn't have a problem understanding you. I would suggest using a thinset mortar under the base. Also wouldn't screw to the studs with a hammer drill. definitely overkill lol. If there is a gap put in a shim otherwise they will crack for sure. It's been a few years since I set one of these so I needed a refresher. this video was helpful. Thank you
A lot can be learned from this video. Thanks for taking the time to record and post it.
Yeah, a lot of what not to do.
So far this is the best video I have found in installing a shower kit without any unnecessary lengthy explanations, or trying to have cool camera angles. Simple and to the point, thank you!
Thank you for watching!
No lie, this video saved the day. Thank you!
Glad to help! It's a great shower.
Appreciate the video. I wasn't sure how to install the shower base on my project or install the base drain. My biggest concern was how high to leave the 2" pvc before installing the base. Very helpful and well done
Thank you! That 2" piece was my concern as well. Ideally, I could have kept it longer if I put the base in and studded around it, but you probably want the walls in first. Putting in the Oatey drain was tricky, but a pro tip on that would be to soap the rubber gasket.
I’m installing the same system right now, I used a floor leveler first and it is working beautifully, perfectly level floor
Great Video
Thanks man, trying to do one myself and this was helpful.
Was helpful, thanks for making it. Recommend dropping the music, distracting. Or, at least ratchet back the volume by about 90%.
Agree, cut the music...
II agree about the music yuk
I have set some of these by using a 1/2 in notched trowel and spreading thin set under them. When it sets up this shower base is solid as a rock. Not going anywhere.
Should have used a mortar base to support the pan and help level it because it should not be rocking when you were walking on it
what type of mortar base do you recommend?
@@joea104The mortar kind.
@@joea104type s mortar
One question what about backer board??
Is not necessary behind the plastic walls?
I didn't see a reason for it. The drywall is high humidity surrounding the shower and on the adjacent walls, plus I was drilling right into the studs. I also think that having that open air behind it allows for some control over moisture that might find its way out of the shower. I'm no expert.
Awesome, you answered all my questions. Thank you.
Do you remember the model name of this Sterling shower i have 2 bad knees like the checkered pattern & antislip bottom
6:20 Is that better to put than mortar?
Probably up for debate. I have no rocking issues because the foam is plyable under my bottom shower pan.
So no fasteners for the base to the studs? Was that standard expanding foam? Low rise? High rise? For the walls and back you could use small stainless washers to prevent the cracking of the lip.
No fasters for the base. Once you attach to the walls via the clips, it makes it more sturdy, but I still think the foam is essential to reducing rocking and filming it up. Once the drywall is in place, nothing moves at all. Washers would help prevent cracking but this material is so brittle it's almost impossible to prevent some cracking. The unit itself had a crack, I would recommend taking it out of the box before you leave the store - as big of a pain that might be. They do not pack these well and are not careful when transporting them.
How has this shower held up so far?
Held up great. It takes constant cleaning.
Like your foam idea.
Is that low expansion foam?
This video help a lot I’m heading to my son house to put one of this he bought a new house and it came with a corner one real small so we’re going to put one of this 4 pice shower I’m going to ask him if we could do a RUclips video but he’s a really private one so will see 😄
Thank you for this video. I'm going to be installing a Sterling shower pan with the brass version of that Oatey no-caulk drain. Since 1-1/2" seems to stick up quite a bit, would 1-1/4" be an OK rough-in height for the drain pipe? Or did the higher part of the unevenly cut pipe stick up more than 1-1/2"?
The height of your floor drain is the tricky part. If you could put your Oatey drain down first, with your floor pan, and get a measurement on the floor drain that will ensure you have enough room to make everything fit once you cut it without cutting too low. Another note is to put dawn on your Oatey drain. That rubber was rough to get on the floor drain. Hope this helps and good luck!
Why didn't you screw the base to the studs?
The instructions did not require the base to be screwed.
Do you remember what sterling model you installed? Was it a sterling accord set up?
How would I be able to extend the 2" pipe up out of the ground? Mines below the floor level right now and do not know how to extend it up.
Use a coupler with an added piece of pipe
What is that foam you used to bed pan? Never seen anything but mortar used. Thanks
Same question. Why not use mortar? I saw some people use Structolite. Not sure what is the best.
@@dinhnguyen9056 Mortar is recommended.
I was so relieved when the music stopped. Then it started again... oh well, thanks for the video anyway.
We've established in the comments the music is distracting. I'm sorry about that!
Next time, pvc saw to cut drain pipe straight?
For sure. Amateur hour
Looks like your base was not seated on the floor as it rocked from side to side when you stood on it. I wonder if the loose material you left under the base caused a chunk to be between the floor and the base. Surprised you did not clean the floor first and shim the base as needed.
The floor itself was not even. I think this was partially do to a slight grade and also where I dug up the ground to run the plumbing. Shimming was a good idea, all hindsight.
what is this music for???????????
Don’t use plumber putty, old school. Recommend Dap 3.0 sealant. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the tip!
The rubber gasket goes on a lot easier if you use dishwashing soap.
Pro tip. Thanks!
Good video. I recommend turning on the closed captions and muting the video. The music track came straight from a isis torture room in the late 90s
Bah. Good one. You're not wrong.
You just keep smashing the foam past where it wants to be naturaly. Then the pan wants to spring back up when you get off it. And you probably put to much weight on it. The bottom will WANT to spring back up. This defets the foam. Video was helpfull.
Whats the exact type or model of this drain? I'm trying to find it
For waterproofing purposes, is it recommended to also cover the fastener heads in the cement board prior to tile installation? Or will the thinset itself serve as waterproofing protection at the time the tiles are installed? Just curious about common practice. I will be using the new Hardiebacker Hydro Defense cement board in my shower, which is supposed to be waterproof regardless.
I noticed, that he skipped the base clips that are installed at each stud.
He skipped almost everything in the instructions and did everything else wrong.
Why would you check the level after you glue it down. The should have been done with a dry fit.
2:54. Do not use plumbers putty to attach flange Use silicone sealant
Good tip. Ended up doing this once I was done.
Great video !
good explanation of process. Just the background music muffled out your voice . Maybe lower the volume. Thumbs up
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Did you put a door on this shower? I'm curious if the wall sections and curb are strong enough to support the weight of a door, or if they'll crack (even if there's a stud behind them). I've only seen people put a curtain rod on top of these showers.
I sure did. Double sliding glass door. It hangs on the top bar. No cracks whatsoever.
Couldn't hear your voice. Too low plus the music drowned you out.
I've heard 👂
If you can't cut the pipe straight, you're going to be in trouble in the future,no matter how much dope you use.Take your time and do it right.
Where are the small clips that guide the bottoms of the walls into place and screw into the studs? Also isn't there supposed to be caulk at the front corners of the side walls at the base? Of course there is caulk across the tops of the walls and down the front to keep any water from seeping behind the walls. All per Sterlings instructions.
The Sterling shower systems are supposed to have built in seals and no caulk is required. But refer to the directions to be sure. Not sure if all the Sterling products are the same.
What’s the purpose of the music makes it hard to hear or understand what your saying
I know, sorry.
How will the ugly dirt in the putty look for a brand new installation. Just saying. maybe, keep it cleaner.
Turn your music down a little
off...
Thanks for posting, but as previous comments pointed out the music was highly irritating. I had to stop watching at 1:30. I'm starting to think that RUclips has some kind of experiment running that tests people's tolerance with droning, repetitive music. It's everywhere.
They do not, but I have since stopped using music. Thank you for your feedback.
Don't use foam under your shower pan, use Mortar per the instructions. Plumbers putty is not recommended on these plastic shower pans. Foam has a lot of expansion strength and can push your base out of level and out of position against the wall as it expands. It may also have a chemical reaction with the plastics used in the shower base. You also leveled your base on the sloped shower pan, which means it was probably not really level. You should use the edges that are flat to make sure your base is level. You also did not install the clips on the base that is called for in the instructions.
So you pretty much did everything wrong that was possible to do wrong. The only useful bit was showing me that kind of drain connection, which I didn't know about before.
Thank you for your feedback.
Music is too loud in the background!
Great job but we can do with out the music. its a distraction...TALK LOUDER AND DROP THE MUSIC...THANKS.
The music was so annoying and had to hear the installer. Hope they make a new one without music.
Sorry about the music. Lesson learned!
This is a video of how "not" to do something.
This goes against the install procedure that Sterling clearly details.
music kinda made me drink, otherwise pretty good
redo due to audio fvk up
you should turn down the background music so we can hear you better
Your background music is too friggin LOUD- hard to make out what you're saying- very annoying.
I friggin know. I've since stopped putting music on.
Didn't see any pvc cement on pipe. Edited out or....
I didnt use any cement on drain. Its snug with the rubber gasket.
Music is to loud hard to hear dialogue!
PLEASE lose the music!!
I agree. I have since!
I thought your video was great! And it answered many questions.
However, next time, leave out the music. It was annoying and loud - to the point that you were difficult to hear sometimes.
Sorry...couldnt watch all of this. The music was drowning out what you were saying.
The repetitive music is to loud & distracting, but I need to understand what he is saying. Thank you 😊
I apologize for the music ;)
Shut the music OFF. YOUR voice and explanation and information is supposed to be the important message.Think a little bit.
Appreciate the feedback. I realize the music was a not so good choice.
Good video, but as others have said, hard to hear you clearly with the awful music.
Music so loud I could barely understand what you were saying. Drop the music.
no need for music. It is more important to hear you
Thank you for the feedback!
Great video. Get rid of the music. It's distracting. I'd rather concentrate on what you have to say.
Unfortunately, the music made it hard to understand you.
I apologize.
Whats the point of the crap of music?
The background music is very distracting and unnecessary. We can't hear what he's saying.
Yes. I agree with everyone else. The music needs to go. I have to watch another one. It’s very annoying.
Dude, what's with the "music"? It was so annoying and made it difficult to understand you. If you want to make music videos, then go ahead.
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Could barely understand a word you were saying with the annoying music and mortar is recommended for seating the base.
That back ground music is terrible. Very distracting.
I know I know
Why do they always play crap music? It would be nice to hear what the guy is saying.
That broken record music is really annoying. leave it out next time. You don't need music in this kind of video.
Hack job. You did exactly what Sterling said not to do. It should be plumb, use a cloth base pad or mortar, not expanding foam! And click the sides in. No caulk is needed.
All good tips. Thanks for the comment. I will say I've been using this shower for a year and I've had not issues. To each their own.
Random Reviews & How-To's thank you for taking the time to make this video. This culture of rude mouthy internet people is mind blowing. There are other ways to express that maybe the install want followed 100% to specs
@@brianlocal3 Thank you for your comment! Can't please everyone ;)
Please loose the music!! It is annoying and very distracting for those of us who are hard of hearing.
In other words, how not to install a shower base.
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It’s a good instructional video but kill the stupid music
I know, I know.
Music needs to go, cannot hear you!
nice video loose the music though
Please don't play background music.
Ok
Turn thaat stupid music off .......
I cant!!! I have since stopped using it. Thank you for your feedback.
Background music is horrible
We know.
Lose the music. It's anoying
Everything is half ass.
Got the job done
so friggin distracting !