You MISSED the Saddest Tunic Secrets | Tunic Game
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- ***SPOILER WARNING for Tunic Gameplay, Tunic Lore, and Tunic's End
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About this game:
Explore a land filled with lost legends, ancient powers, and ferocious monsters in TUNIC, an isometric action game about a small fox on a big adventure. Stranded in a ruined land, and armed with only your own curiosity, you will confront colossal beasts, collect strange and powerful items, and unravel long-lost secrets.
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What is the secret legend? What is the story of tunic? This is part one of a new game theory series that will take a deep-dive into the lore of Tunic. I'm trying a different style of video this time for my Tunic lore theories. This is one of a bunch of game theories floating in my head about Tunic secrets. Join the new discord and we can chat more about Tunic and other story and puzzle games.
No spoilers but I have gotten the secret ending.
Shout-out to Phantasy Star IV, the only RPG I've ever played where if you try to inspect dressers, etc. in someone's home, the main character says “it's rude to go through other people's things.”
(I assume the earlier Phantasy Star games may have done the same, but I never played them)
The sheer amount of depth in Tunic is astounding. A true modern masterpiece.
Sadder yet is the spirit by the well. No one should feel the need to apologize for making puns.
I always thought it strange in Zelda games, you walk into peoples homes, shatter their pots, and steal their savings or items. Yet your the hero? Are we to just assume that everything in the world is there for us to just take?
You’re so right! Even the developers say about Tunic: “this world was not made for you.”
Haha I was just teaching my daughter about rpgs the other day and I told her. "If they don't lock their doors anything you can pick up is yours to take... the best stuff is often in these houses." It led to several morality questions. 😅
@@brianm.595 It's a simple matter of distinguishing between game and reality.
Hey, *I'm* putting my neck on the line to save the world, the least you can do is give me the stuff I need to make sure it isn't destroyed!
I mean, we have that in the real world. Civil forfeiture.
This conclusion depends on how we understand the relation of the waking-world to the dream-world.
If you open a treasure chest while in the dreamworld, it will be opened in the waking-world. This opens the possibility that some ruin seekers such as yourself have plundered the shop across dimensions. No general liability insurance for retail shops is gonna cover that.
So true. You’ve got my wheels going though. I do think we’re the first to make it to the dream world, solely based on the fact that we’re the first to open the Heir’s prison (other ghosts imply this).
@@JessZakilly We cant have been the first ones to break into the heirs prison. page 7 of the guide is rather explicit about that. Maybe the ghost's reactions tells us more about them than about us.
That’s a valid point, but doesn’t explain why the ghosts are surprised that it’s been unlocked. The pages seem to be the only thing able to escape the cycle, also the only thing we find both in canonical plane and far shore.
@@JessZakilly One of the ghosts say "A long time ago... Or maybe last week." I think their perception of time and their memories are altered. All of this has happened several times before, as it is a cycle. The ghosts are none the wiser because they are numb, their memories shattered and sense of self broken.
@albevanhanoy I mean it does say in the story that contradictions would overtake the canonical plane. I think time and causality were fundamentally broken when the "lever overworked"
A test perhaps, to complete the game without entering his store until after you meet them in the ghost world.
at that point, so many other Seekers have been through, and taken so much, it wouldn't matter.
@@katking9574 True, but there might be unique dialogue for being one of the rare few that didn't take anything.
@@techstuff9198has anyone tried yet
tested. No, it didn't matter
@@LordPrecision The shopkeep would likely say the same.
Hmm, I’m not sure I’d say that this shopkeeper is the saddest aspect of the game, but it’s a pretty sad aspect. I would maybe give that honor to the Heir (even though they can have a happy ending if you play to the good ending).
Tunic is one of the best games I’ve played in a while. Pouring over tha manual to figure out what was going on was wonderful and never has a game made me want to have a notebook handy. I loved figuring out all the Holy Cross puzzles!
I also loved this video. Keep up the great work. You have a subscriber!
Very true! Maybe the Heir’s story is sadder, but I think the resignation speaks volumes too (I may be biased though, I love a good side-NPC). I think my favorite part about Tunic and why it works so well are definitely the layers that get peeled back as you get deeper and deeper. If one is lucky enough to go in blind, they have no idea the ride they’re in for with this game! Glad to have you here, GEM!
@@JessZakilly With the exception of some of the more obtuse puzzles, I did go in totally blind. I loved the *mind blown* moments the game gives you. For instance when you learn how to upgrade, then when you learn how to pray, then about what the Holy Cross is and how to use it. Haven't felt that way from a game in a very long time.
Yes! My mind also was blown every. single. time. the route spits you out somewhere and you realize you could have used that shortcut all along. I thought I was pretty good at looking in every nook and cranny until I played this game.
They say you live two lives.
One life is your physical being.
The other life is your memory.
As the last pieces of that shopkeeper’s property is plundered, their memories fade along with it.
It is their final death, caused by greed.
Another sad story goes to that fisherman fishing for eternity. They've been sitting there for so long, they've gone delirious with their desire to catch fish. And seeing as there is no evidence of any caught fish, their desire may never be met.
Incredible video. You've framed this wonderful game in a new way from a perspective usually discarded, even by those who could discern the cyptic cuneiform-esque language of the world. It's easy to forget that, in the logic of the world, these simple NPCs lived here once, and are powerless to the many cycles of destruction that exist in the world. Only watching, not even in horror, not anymore, as we make another revolution on the well-trodden ground of a false hero's journey.
You captured that complicated emotional landscape wonderfully. Thank you!
Such kind words! My favorite part of any game or story is taking a look at side characters as if they were the main character. So often they're overlooked, but usually they have the most to tell!
@@JessZakilly It's a good way to get a perspective on a story or a world. Little details like this character speak to a broader context within the game. Excellent stuff.
Definitely an interesting perspective, I appreciate the video and effort to make! However, The saddest thing for me is the heir, as I've yet to understand how the good ending is even possible.
When it kills you as seen at 2:00, it drops and sheds tears, as if it didnt want to. And all it takes for it to not happen is to ... well you know.
BUT HOW!?? Are there not consequences to breaking the loop? Does there not need to be an heir? Why keep up the cycle when seemingly not wanting to? Ive not yet translated the manual, but if the answers arent there, please feel free to share theories.
I thought this was gonna be way sadder than it was. When my friend told me about this guy's dialogue I just laughed. It seemed like a joke thrown in to make the player go "oh no, I didn't think of that"
It's not like the dead need their items anymore. What happened to the shopkeeper was just a result of the world leaving the prior era behind.
I ended up streaming this and was immediately immersed. Going as far as deciphering the language and starting to decipher the book. Yet nothing gave me more joy than to actually be able to talk to the foxes. Yet as I found the shopkeep and deciphered his words I was hit by the realization that you mentioned in this video. I stole from his former shop, his belongings, and contributed to his sadness. I was shaken, upset, just lamenting to myself that I added to the status quo as I picked the last of it clean. Seeing this video after, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who felt this.. Maybe.. just maybe I could do it all again and spare him stealing the last of his memories... maybe something will change.
Loving the Tunic lore videos. So many secrets! This game is like an onion. Definitely feeling the Darks Souls' vibe in this poor guy's story
I couldn’t agree more!
Does the shopkeep still do that if you do a run where you don’t open his chests?
What happens if you talk to the shop keeper spirit thing if you don’t steal his stuff
It’s been a while, but I’m pretty sure he still has the same dialogue. Be cooler if he said something else!
Yeah but if he's already broken it's all ruined and thrown by that point, it was symbolic for you to take the last but tbh he's already down the pit.
That’s a good point…not like there’s a comeback from where he was
fun fact: you can translete the npc box text and they are just chiling they will tell common things, like where are you going,they even tell you they are just relaxing there
"stripped all but one chest clean"
uhh... look again
It is one thing to steal personal property that a person uses in their day-to-day life, but is it really such a bad thing to deny others what they need in order to extract a profit. Aside from sentimental objects, a true ghost has little need for material things, although there is some justified nostalgia for the role they played and the life they lived.
The game and you made me cry. Thanks.
Anytime ;D
Literally the only dialog I deciphered in the whole game. I was a bit too excited about actually being able to read it to have it wash over me like this video did.
I dream about this game often.
Lovely video - love this game and all the theories coming out of it and the interpretations that can come from it.
Your video style is great, really gentle and mostly well paced, but my one gripe is that the pauses between you speaking are too long. It feels like padding / drawing out the video and it kind of undermines any flow you're attempting to provide - just tightening up some of those gaps would really provide a more satisfying experience. Some long pauses are great to have a moment to reflect on anything, but it was far too frequent in this video.
That said, liked and subbed. Can't wait to see more.
Thank you so much! Great feedback to have
@@JessZakillyI disagree with the comment - each pause left me feeling contemplative and yearning for more.
We’re just so used to Mr. Beast type in-your-face content.. that when a creator dares to slow down and give an impactful experience, it seems like it’s done with the intention of hitting a certain time-mark for advertisers 🙃
Keep doing what you’re doing, there’s so many more questions to answer.. I’d watch a 3 hour iceberg video on Tunic in this exact style if you ever would decide to make one
3:08 worst day of fishing beats best day of court mandated anger management class
Loved the video, inmediate sub, great work, you described perfectly my tougths on late game...
Thank you!! So glad you enjoyed it!
your videos sound so poetic i love it
Thanks! This means so much!
Is it really being greedy if the area has been abandoned or is it the desire to survive in a strange broken land? Regardless is there any difference in the shopkeepers dialogue if you don't take anything?
I never noticed the shop correlation. Makes sense, though.
Makes me wanna play it even more ❤️
You should! Go play it first!
Nice narration, well done
JESS THIS VIDEO WAS AWESOME!!!!!
Thanks! I’m ultra proud of this one. Glad you liked it!
If you give the shopkeep a coin rather than go into the shop, I wonder if there is an Easter egg there
It's so refreshing to see a gaming video essay voiced/written by a female for once. Thanks. :-)
Have you gotten the secret ending,it is so happy and sad at the same time.😢❤(no spoilers)
Wait. Could the last ghost in the video (the shopkeeper) and the skeleton shopkeeper we all know about actually be related ? Or even the same person ? You made a video about the shopkeeper so I just realized that now @JessZakilly
🤔🤔🤔 body, soul, and skeleton separated
The story just makes me want to cry.
Thanks for the guilt trip... just what i needed today lol
What a powerful Take. Great vid I wondered why u didn’t translate the first few Souls but then realized it was to give the shop keep his hope back … we’ll atleast try to.
So... if you don't take anything from the shopkeeper, will he say something else in the shadow realm?
according to another comment the answer is no.
Interesting video! Thanks for uploading!
that...cuts deep ... and it hurts.
I think you're looking a little too much into something that isn't there.
Surprised this doesn`t have more views
Wait… how did you translate it?
I didn't miss them. The game kept them from me. I have to go through way more trouble than it's worth to translate this stuff. The only game I've ever played that feels like it only begrudgingly let's you know what's going on if you REALLY want to know.
You talk exactly like the guy from the video OCARINA OF TIME - a masterclass of subtext. Some of your lines are almost identical as well lol. Did you get inspired from that video?
I LOVE that video! Yes, Good Blood is a huge inspiration of mine. His skills are incredible! Definitely recommend his God of War video as well. :)
@@JessZakilly I totally agree :) love his videos as well
Noooo, but I did it to share the knowledge I swear :(
Well…now I feel like an asshole lol
is this a vaatividya video
You’re too kind! Vaati is a big inspiration
Want a fight?
those that compares Tunic X Zelda.. never played Tunic properly
The umm...the shopkeeper? The theme of the video was nice but it was very anti-climatic. I feel like you tacked on the "Your greed stole the shopkeep's last shred of faith" to try and make it dramatic. If anything the shopkeep should realize in the spirit plane that the love of material things is bad and shouldn't care if people take the leftovers after he's gone, its not like he can use them or money where he is. It's not like tunic could purchase the items like he can from the other shop.
Please put the spoiler warnings at the beginning of the video, not in the description.
yeah no. this whole video for this? it is just clickbait! i learned the freaking language to read what these people say and this was one that gave me the least information. or emotions. there were so many interesting and shocking moments in this game. this was not one of them. wrong.
Holy clickbait. Was starting to check out your channel for Tunic lore but this has convinced me not to. Yikes
Avoid the voice fry it's not pleasant to the ears
Thanks for the feedback, I’m always learning!
@@JessZakilly hey don't listen to them your voice sounds completely fine. And even if it didn't people can't easily control that kind of thing so they should just keep their annoyances to themselves