my opinion is that when everyone signed up to WoW Classic, they made characters not knowing whether they would be able to transition into TBC later on. A force transition into TBC would upset a large portion of the community who have spent huge amounts of time building their characters to be made mostly useless come the level cap increase. Yes, players may want to be able to take their long time invested classic characters into the new expansion than be told to start again on fresh servers but they weren't promised that to begin with. We should be given TBC classic but completely fresh with an option to start at level 58 or level 1.
There's still a very faint chance that they will allow people to keep their current characters blocked and unplayable until fresh vanilla servers release at which point they will be able to copy them to there, but I really really doubt they will do that.
I wouldnt see any harm in doing a couple of fresh tbc's. After doing some research tier 3 gear is apparently than even some Kara loot, which is going to completely change how the game feels in the first 1 or 2 phases. Id really like to experience tbc from scratch. That being said, no chance in he'll im restarting and losing my 8/9 hunter t3 and nerubian slavemaker. Not to mention all the gold ive farmed completely legitimately and the 3 other toons ive leveled without boosting.
Fresh TBC server would be great, thinking here not only on the leveling experience but also economy What also could be a good approach having Fresh classic servers released but an option for a free Character Transfer at lv60 to a TBC Server.
@@ThisHandleIsntAvailableTryANew there's going to be 12 people per hellfire boar in the outlands. A split player base would help smooth out the TBC launch if anything.
@@zacharytaylor1619 you'll change that tune several months AFTER release when the split hinders instead of helps. I just hope they have everyone start over in TBC. You wanna keep your naxx geared out toon? Stay on Vanilla classic. It'll be doing you a favor anyways as most 60 epics are rendered irrelevant by 65 greens. Start TBC over completely, have the clusterfuck at launch and not in the Outlands.
Its really nice that Blizzard is asking us, the players, how they should do things. But the survey was a joke, i played vanilla since it was released und played it almost every day, at least 3-4 days a week...no survey for me. A friend of mine plays only retail, he dont even have a classic character, he got a survey. I dont know if its possible but they should only ask the "vanilla" or "legacy" community what they want for this servers. People who started with Mop or Warlords, and never played vanilla or tbc are the wrong people to ask how legacy server should look like cause they dont even know how it was to play this expansions. Thats just how i see it, but i think it would be better to ask people who really wanna play this servers and not staying on retail
Two things that I will DEFINITELY will do for TBC release: 1) Fresh server (if possible; people cannot possibly imagine the negative impact on the eco after a progressive launch). 2) Go PvE Server (Elemental Plateau mafia? No thx.).
1. Agreed. FRESH or no bueno. 2. Not sure yet but pve server sounds good. my Guild pre launch dicided on pvp server at the start of classic but all i got out of it personally was getting ganked alot as Alliance priest.
Private servers dont have enough people to support my niche play time (found the one and only Guild in the word in classic and never found one on private servers) and they change stuff like difficulty and "patch" release time. I would like to see a Blizz version.
What is your advice if I have no interest in playing Classic and I'm waiting only for TBC (and WotLK possibly in the future) but I want to be a horde paladin? Should I wait until the pre-expansion patch and start at that time?
If you only ever want to play Paladin then yeah you don't really have any choice but to wait for the pre-patch / expansion launch. If you don't mind leveling an alt however I would advise you start leveling another class on horde now, farm some gold on it to give you a head start for TBC and level some professions to help your paladin main once TBC releases.
If your goal is to play as fresh as possible with no outside influence, then yes. But this is what I recommend: Start playing now and get stuff for your pally, particularly the paladin's "A Gesture of Commitment" quest: You will need Runecloth (40), Arcanite Bar (6), Sungrass (10), and Dark Rune (5). FYI, this is the paladin epic mount quest. "Dark Rune" is found only in Scholomance; but if you want to buy them, then cost 40 gold (on my server currently at least). There are MANY other examples which I can give. Again, if you want to have that fresh Burning Crusade experience, then by all means, wait and do nothing and start as soon as the expansion is finalized and released and you can start in (You want to be a Blood Elf, right?) Eversong Woods at the start of things... BUT I WARN YOU RIGHT NOW!!! START OFF THAT WAY AND YOU SHOULD EXPECT... 1. MASSIVE COMPETITIONS IN DRANEI AND BLOOD ELF STARTING ZONES!!! 2. A SLOW (or at least slower) LEVELING EXPERIENCE SINCE ODDS ARE THAT THERE WILL NO TO TOO FEW FOLKS ON THE OLD PLANET TO HELP YOU!!! 3. GANKING AND BULLY FROM THE ENEMY FACTION LIKE NEVER BEFORE!!! AT LEAST WITH AN ALREADY-LEVEL 60 ALT, YOU CAN GATHER RESOURCES!!! 4. NO HELP FOR YOU PALADIN EPIC MOUNT (Arcanite Bar requires an alchemist's and miner's help, Sungrass (10) requires herbalism, and Dark Rune requires several Scholomance runs which require a team who may not be willing to go back to the old planet). 5. MOST LIKELY BLAZING TO 60 TO MAKE IT TO OUTLAND SO NO DUNGEON TEAMS!!! 6. NO IN GAME ADVICE ALONG THE WAY WHICH COULD BE A LIFE SAVER!!! 7. THAT YOU NEED GET MANY PROFESSION RESOURCES ON YOUR OWN WHEN YOU COULD HAVE HAD ALTS TO LIGHTEN THE LOAD!!! There are many more. One last time: It is your choice and if you want that fresh Burning Crusade experience, then continue as is doing nothing, BUT I WARN YOU... if we end up not being able to continue/transfer our characters (initially at least), then at least you have gain some experience and gotten some comrades, otherwise (depending upon your schedule and how much which you play... YOU MAY HAVE TO SPEND MOTHS CATCHING UP, OR WORSE... THIS MAY BE YOUR LAST WARNING... START PLAYING RIGHT NOW!!! Thank you.
So do you think we’ll have Belf pre patch then so I can level my belf paladin to 60 before tbc release? I’ve not been playing wow for months so I don’t get burned out before this happens, fingers xed
plseae recommend 1 server we should play and prepare for tbc in there cuz we are few friends we play classic but we quite cuz our server got worth and no ppl at all but we will return to lvl up new char in new server but we dont know which server we should play
yo numidia when they convert honor gained into a currency, do you get the honor you have earned already the day the patch drops? or does it start at 0 and what you earn from that point on is now currency? i’m also kind of curious if cost amounts will be available for the rank 14 gear. so we know how feasible it is to acquire the full set before the xpac releases.
As far as I know there's no conversion, the honor is completely wiped and whiever PvP activity you participate in starting from pre-patch will now reward you in honor in the form of a currency in your PvP tab. You can buy rank 13/14 gear with honor and BG marks, it takes between 20 to 40 marks in different BGs to buy different pieces of gear depending on the piece. I went ahead and deleted the other comments filled with misinformation nonsense :p Source : wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Patch_2.0.1#PvP
If vanilla classic servers get erased completely then TBC “classic” is no longer classic...it’s just wow 2.0 blizzard needs to keep them separate. Same when WOTLK servers come out. I want to jump around. In retail, Outland hasn’t changed at all and leveling my 1,000th toon in hellfire peninsula again this time slower will be most likely a 1 time thing. Keep vanilla and tbc separate. Period.
I’m hoping we get fresh classic servers. I’m playing the hardcore leveling challenge on classic. And I want to play that gamemode specifically for classic. Playing that on TBC wouldn’t be as fun for me personally. Though, I am excited for TBC. I understand why most of the community wants to move onto the next thing, but Classic is still even now fun for me.
im right here with you, there was a video just released recently stating in their "opinion" what will happen is that all the 60 servers will goto TBC an that fresh servers will goto phase 6 again starting from ph1 just like what we did, an that possibly when those new servers hit PH6 that they will stay there. Thing is i don't want to do Grand marshal / High warlord / scarab lord a 3rd time... like seriously.
Haven't played WoW, just gonna throw an idea. Criticize however you like (quite curious why this will not work) but I think Blizzard should release waves of servers that will progress into the next expansion as time goes. Like for me, if I pick server ABC which is in Vanilla now in 2021, in a year or 2, it goes to TBC. Then next expansion after another year and so on. All the while releasing a new "wave" of vanilla servers that will undergo the same progression into expansions. Is that a nightmare scenario to support for Blizzard?
I believe that's what most people assumed they would do before the announcement but they actually went with the "frozen in time" server idea where the current servers will keep progressing through expansions but everytime an expansion is over they will make a copy of the current servers and freeze them in that expansion and give you the option to copy your character to them. I personally would prefer what you suggested but as you said it might be a nightmare to manage and support for Blizzard so that's probably why they didn't go for it.
I think they should progress all servers and then offer fresh tbc servers. Then have like vanilla servers that people can transfer to (however this really shouldn’t be the main focus, most don’t want to stay in classic they want to progress and so should be the only opt in part). I want to go into an expansion that I never got to experience without losing anything I’ve worked for ages to earn in classic. And I don’t just mean the loot but the community on my realm, the friendships and the rivalry’s. I want to progress with my realm not without it.
As a person who didn’t get to play classic in the beginning, I always feel very hesitant to start it because I’m so far behind. So I hope they release tbc servers where everyone is lvl 1 to start.
im expecting tons of people that didn't play in classic to start playing in tbc, if that happens, you will almost certainly be able to start playing on a completely fresh server because they will need to open up more to accommodate the influx of players
Rank 14 gear from just Honor in the pre-patch?! That’s huge considering there’s a decent amount of people trying to grind out R14 right now in Phase 6, it’s basically a waste!
@@Cruor34 did you play classic? Pre nerf Cthun is absolutely doable. Its a myth that it was mathematically impossible. As for Muru, why not at least start with the prenerf values and then change them later if it proves to be too difficult? Obviously, "nerfs" that involved bug fixes woukd stay in, but otherwise lets err on the side of harder and adjust later if its too much.
@@Hyperversity1 I did play Classic. World 4th Naxx clear. As far as I recall nobody beat pre nerf C'thun, and I mean his very first incarnation, I don't recall how many times he was nerfed its been 15 years. I also did 300-400 attempts on Muru before he died, there is hard, and then there is people don't want to play the game anymore. People are much better at the game now so we will see what they do.
@@Cruor34 yeah thats my only point. See if the player base can handle it, and if not then adjust accordingly. But there is no question that cthun's first iteration could be beaten with gearing knowledge, world buff stacking and consume stacking.
just before TBC was released blizzard did a marketing campaign to gain players, and offered 2x exp leveling for people to boost their characters up to 60 faster... I was one of the poeple who got in on this point. I would love for them to do a 2x xp from 0-60 for people that want to roll pallys and shammys
What do you all think about Blizzard letting players create a lvl 58 character? I think that would give players incentive to pick classes that were made good by subsequent patches. Which I don't really think is fair for people that picked hard classes to level through classic. Either way, TBC will rock.
@@PinchySkree yeah its true they released a bunch of bullshit systems in wrath (not to mention LFG), but for people that didnt play back in the day (im a cata baby, when wrath was out i was watching my uncle play) it could be enthralling to experience northrend and uldaman for the first time. wrath is the most immersive looking expac imo, and many people claim that certain classes were at their best in wrath
There's still a very faint chance that they will allow people to keep their current characters blocked and unplayable until fresh servers release at which point they will be able to copy them to there, but I really really doubt they will do that.
Back then i made a 2nd account from TBC then a 3rd account for LK i only bought TBC and classic i never even bought LK was given to me. so i had a OG 60 account, a 70 acc and 80 acc up untill they forced everyone to have the expansions, then i had to shut off my xp. I would play both 60 an 70, if i ever got the chance to get tired of 60, but never get there cause iv had to relevel an redo content 16 timvees from 2004 to 2021. Which is why i hate leveling now.
@@NumidiaWoW if they did that we would have to wait till PH6 release i doubt they would allow a t3 char to play on a server with only mc and ony released.
I very much hope that the new races are NOT available as part of the prepatch. If both new races release at the same time the portal opens, players will have to choose whether to start over with a level 1 and commit to that, or go through the Dark Portal with their level 60 characters. This is a GOOD thing because it will split up the playerbase a bit and should make both HFP and the new race starting areas slightly better. Now think about the opposite. If the new races come out with the prepatch, everyone and their sibling will create a blood elf/draenei, cause why not. Those starting areas (one per faction) will be a shitshow. Then, you're gonna face an even worse shitshow a few weeks later when everyone is packed into HFP.
There's still a very faint chance that they will allow people to keep their current characters blocked and unplayable until fresh servers release at which point they will be able to copy them to there, but I really really doubt they will do that.
Just imagine: TBC launched! If you were enjoying naxx or other classic content still or had no interest in TBC; Sorry! Times up! We’re now moving your character into something else, regardless of how you feel! .. That would be a capital OOF.
Blizzard is going to destroy Classic TBC by letting people keep they're characters / transfer characters over to TBC servers by letting them bring over the thousands of gold that they farmed either by botting, boosting, or AoE farming. It'll probably ruin the economy in the first quarter of TBC release. Prices for mats will be either too cheap because of all the gold everyone has, or too expensive because the majority of people won't be out farming them, and will just be waiting at the AH to buy them, causing the prices to skyrocket because of scarcity.
If you want buffed/overtuned content just go play on your private servers.If you want things more challenging go play mythic+.Keep in mind that elitists (for 15 years old game lol )have ruined every private server out there so please stay on your shitty servers and don't come here.I just want to chill and have fun
If they don’t reset the gold and the economy is fudged, guess I’ll just buy gold and further add to what’s wrong with the game.. (not like I haven’t been buying gold already kek)
my opinion is that when everyone signed up to WoW Classic, they made characters not knowing whether they would be able to transition into TBC later on. A force transition into TBC would upset a large portion of the community who have spent huge amounts of time building their characters to be made mostly useless come the level cap increase. Yes, players may want to be able to take their long time invested classic characters into the new expansion than be told to start again on fresh servers but they weren't promised that to begin with. We should be given TBC classic but completely fresh with an option to start at level 58 or level 1.
There's still a very faint chance that they will allow people to keep their current characters blocked and unplayable until fresh vanilla servers release at which point they will be able to copy them to there, but I really really doubt they will do that.
@Kaan Özkuscu you heavily speculated on that then. Its still not certain. I agreed with original post
Good point. I mentioned this many times. People play vanilla so they don't have to chase the carrot on the stick any more.
I really want an option for fresh tbc server
The peeps probably want it like it was back then, which could result in BC forced on us, but we'll see what comes of it.
I think there's a chance they release a couple new servers for people who want a fresh TBC experience.
True. I don’t want to be in Hellfire pen and see some thunderfurys running at me lol
U think u do, but u dont
I wouldnt see any harm in doing a couple of fresh tbc's. After doing some research tier 3 gear is apparently than even some Kara loot, which is going to completely change how the game feels in the first 1 or 2 phases. Id really like to experience tbc from scratch. That being said, no chance in he'll im restarting and losing my 8/9 hunter t3 and nerubian slavemaker. Not to mention all the gold ive farmed completely legitimately and the 3 other toons ive leveled without boosting.
Fresh TBC server would be great, thinking here not only on the leveling experience but also economy
What also could be a good approach having Fresh classic servers released but an option for a free Character Transfer at lv60 to a TBC Server.
Man I can't wait for tbc and fresh classic.
Fuck fresh. If you release a fresh at the launch of tbc the player base will be too split.
@@ThisHandleIsntAvailableTryANew there's going to be 12 people per hellfire boar in the outlands. A split player base would help smooth out the TBC launch if anything.
@@zacharytaylor1619 you'll change that tune several months AFTER release when the split hinders instead of helps.
I just hope they have everyone start over in TBC. You wanna keep your naxx geared out toon? Stay on Vanilla classic. It'll be doing you a favor anyways as most 60 epics are rendered irrelevant by 65 greens.
Start TBC over completely, have the clusterfuck at launch and not in the Outlands.
@@humanitiestheproblem I can feel for that, I'd be right there with you for a fresh tbc launch 1-70.
@@humanitiestheproblem will there be option to stay in Classic wow ? How it will be pls ?
Its really nice that Blizzard is asking us, the players, how they should do things. But the survey was a joke, i played vanilla since it was released und played it almost every day, at least 3-4 days a week...no survey for me. A friend of mine plays only retail, he dont even have a classic character, he got a survey. I dont know if its possible but they should only ask the "vanilla" or "legacy" community what they want for this servers. People who started with Mop or Warlords, and never played vanilla or tbc are the wrong people to ask how legacy server should look like cause they dont even know how it was to play this expansions. Thats just how i see it, but i think it would be better to ask people who really wanna play this servers and not staying on retail
What's the name of the music at the start?
Nightfae Nocturne Melancholy - ruclips.net/video/ZibZRvK3y90/видео.html
Am glad am not the only one , having these questions 😁
Two things that I will DEFINITELY will do for TBC release: 1) Fresh server (if possible; people cannot possibly imagine the negative impact on the eco after a progressive launch). 2) Go PvE Server (Elemental Plateau mafia? No thx.).
Lol if its fresh either I won’t play cuz i can get that for free on pservers or im never farming fir gold again. I’m buying it.
1. Agreed. FRESH or no bueno. 2. Not sure yet but pve server sounds good. my Guild pre launch dicided on pvp server at the start of classic but all i got out of it personally was getting ganked alot as Alliance priest.
Private servers dont have enough people to support my niche play time (found the one and only Guild in the word in classic and never found one on private servers) and they change stuff like difficulty and "patch" release time. I would like to see a Blizz version.
What is your advice if I have no interest in playing Classic and I'm waiting only for TBC (and WotLK possibly in the future) but I want to be a horde paladin? Should I wait until the pre-expansion patch and start at that time?
If you only ever want to play Paladin then yeah you don't really have any choice but to wait for the pre-patch / expansion launch. If you don't mind leveling an alt however I would advise you start leveling another class on horde now, farm some gold on it to give you a head start for TBC and level some professions to help your paladin main once TBC releases.
If your goal is to play as fresh as possible with no outside influence, then yes. But this is what I recommend: Start playing now and get stuff for your pally, particularly the paladin's "A Gesture of Commitment" quest: You will need Runecloth (40), Arcanite Bar (6), Sungrass (10), and Dark Rune (5). FYI, this is the paladin epic mount quest. "Dark Rune" is found only in Scholomance; but if you want to buy them, then cost 40 gold (on my server currently at least). There are MANY other examples which I can give.
Again, if you want to have that fresh Burning Crusade experience, then by all means, wait and do nothing and start as soon as the expansion is finalized and released and you can start in (You want to be a Blood Elf, right?) Eversong Woods at the start of things...
BUT I WARN YOU RIGHT NOW!!! START OFF THAT WAY AND YOU SHOULD EXPECT...
1. MASSIVE COMPETITIONS IN DRANEI AND BLOOD ELF STARTING ZONES!!!
2. A SLOW (or at least slower) LEVELING EXPERIENCE SINCE ODDS ARE THAT THERE WILL NO TO TOO FEW FOLKS ON THE OLD PLANET TO HELP YOU!!!
3. GANKING AND BULLY FROM THE ENEMY FACTION LIKE NEVER BEFORE!!! AT LEAST WITH AN ALREADY-LEVEL 60 ALT, YOU CAN GATHER RESOURCES!!!
4. NO HELP FOR YOU PALADIN EPIC MOUNT (Arcanite Bar requires an alchemist's and miner's help, Sungrass (10) requires herbalism, and Dark Rune requires several Scholomance runs which require a team who may not be willing to go back to the old planet).
5. MOST LIKELY BLAZING TO 60 TO MAKE IT TO OUTLAND SO NO DUNGEON TEAMS!!!
6. NO IN GAME ADVICE ALONG THE WAY WHICH COULD BE A LIFE SAVER!!!
7. THAT YOU NEED GET MANY PROFESSION RESOURCES ON YOUR OWN WHEN YOU COULD HAVE HAD ALTS TO LIGHTEN THE LOAD!!!
There are many more. One last time: It is your choice and if you want that fresh Burning Crusade experience, then continue as is doing nothing, BUT I WARN YOU... if we end up not being able to continue/transfer our characters (initially at least), then at least you have gain some experience and gotten some comrades, otherwise (depending upon your schedule and how much which you play...
YOU MAY HAVE TO SPEND MOTHS CATCHING UP, OR WORSE... THIS MAY BE YOUR LAST WARNING... START PLAYING RIGHT NOW!!!
Thank you.
So do you think we’ll have Belf pre patch then so I can level my belf paladin to 60 before tbc release? I’ve not been playing wow for months so I don’t get burned out before this happens, fingers xed
Why do you think they will start with patch 2.4? I'm just curious as I think they are more likely to start at 2.1 or w/e that first patch is.
I agree.
im leveling a tauren warrior right now on faerlina, getting boosted in maraudon as we speak! cant wait to hit 60, HYPED FOR TBC
maybe you have to start from lvl 1 again hehe
which server u recoommned in eu classic cuz there is alot servers i dont know which should we start ---
plseae recommend 1 server we should play and prepare for tbc in there cuz we are few friends we play classic but we quite cuz our server got worth and no ppl at all
but we will return to lvl up new char in new server but we dont know which server we should play
@@mohammadvasisari5429 pyrewood village
yo numidia when they convert honor gained into a currency, do you get the honor you have earned already the day the patch drops? or does it start at 0 and what you earn from that point on is now currency? i’m also kind of curious if cost amounts will be available for the rank 14 gear. so we know how feasible it is to acquire the full set before the xpac releases.
As far as I know there's no conversion, the honor is completely wiped and whiever PvP activity you participate in starting from pre-patch will now reward you in honor in the form of a currency in your PvP tab.
You can buy rank 13/14 gear with honor and BG marks, it takes between 20 to 40 marks in different BGs to buy different pieces of gear depending on the piece.
I went ahead and deleted the other comments filled with misinformation nonsense :p
Source : wowwiki.fandom.com/wiki/Patch_2.0.1#PvP
@@NumidiaWoW awesome thanks a lot dude
Just because they don’t repeat a question, does not mean that they have chosen a specific answer.
Where can I get this warrior ui?
90% of it is ElvUI, so get ElvUI then install my profile from here : wago.io/4SH-f_FDc
Do you have a link to your UI Layout?
the way you pronounce and explain is very clear. very helpful for people like me who don't speak english
If vanilla classic servers get erased completely then TBC “classic” is no longer classic...it’s just wow 2.0 blizzard needs to keep them separate. Same when WOTLK servers come out. I want to jump around. In retail, Outland hasn’t changed at all and leveling my 1,000th toon in hellfire peninsula again this time slower will be most likely a 1 time thing. Keep vanilla and tbc separate. Period.
Nice, well explained
Glad you liked it!
anyone dont know any server?
I’m hoping we get fresh classic servers. I’m playing the hardcore leveling challenge on classic. And I want to play that gamemode specifically for classic. Playing that on TBC wouldn’t be as fun for me personally. Though, I am excited for TBC. I understand why most of the community wants to move onto the next thing, but Classic is still even now fun for me.
So, if I want to keep my current character in P6 forever, am I completely screwed? :(
im right here with you, there was a video just released recently stating in their "opinion" what will happen is that all the 60 servers will goto TBC an that fresh servers will goto phase 6 again starting from ph1 just like what we did, an that possibly when those new servers hit PH6 that they will stay there. Thing is i don't want to do Grand marshal / High warlord / scarab lord a 3rd time... like seriously.
@@quadsatv same here. i have sulfuras. no way i will do the grind again for the mats.
No. They will let you copy or transfer your toon to a vanilla only server.
@@JoshLineberry I really hope so :)
Haven't played WoW, just gonna throw an idea. Criticize however you like (quite curious why this will not work) but I think Blizzard should release waves of servers that will progress into the next expansion as time goes.
Like for me, if I pick server ABC which is in Vanilla now in 2021, in a year or 2, it goes to TBC. Then next expansion after another year and so on. All the while releasing a new "wave" of vanilla servers that will undergo the same progression into expansions.
Is that a nightmare scenario to support for Blizzard?
I believe that's what most people assumed they would do before the announcement but they actually went with the "frozen in time" server idea where the current servers will keep progressing through expansions but everytime an expansion is over they will make a copy of the current servers and freeze them in that expansion and give you the option to copy your character to them.
I personally would prefer what you suggested but as you said it might be a nightmare to manage and support for Blizzard so that's probably why they didn't go for it.
I can’t wait...
Likewise !
You should change the title to my guesses about TBC since there are just that
Are we going to have our gold or ll be gold reset at tbc???
I hope it's reset!
No freakin way am i gonna start from lvl 1 again. Working on my 3rd lvl 60 toon and it is a huge grind.
The sources also mentioned info to come out before new year and that didn't happen.
Yeah it did, Staysafe's leak with the release date, the pre-patch info and and the beta date.
@@NumidiaWoW All that info was in the same video the further info never came.
love the channel!!
Thank you ! Glad you like it.
if the game progresses with our current chars, the economy will be ruined.
i hope we get atleast seperate servers
Exactly! Some people already have 20,000g. I am guessing they will just leave classic servers as is and just launch tbc as new servers.
@@roymcloud93 already have 20,000g? bro i had that in phase 1-2 lmao..
@@Ayayron_e3 wow you're cool
@@sgt.handsome2362 was not bragging.. I'm laughing at the fact that it's phase 6 and he said "already have 20k"
I think they should progress all servers and then offer fresh tbc servers. Then have like vanilla servers that people can transfer to (however this really shouldn’t be the main focus, most don’t want to stay in classic they want to progress and so should be the only opt in part). I want to go into an expansion that I never got to experience without losing anything I’ve worked for ages to earn in classic. And I don’t just mean the loot but the community on my realm, the friendships and the rivalry’s. I want to progress with my realm not without it.
i really hope they will have fresh TBC servers so i dont have to join a server with a bunch of people starting in full T3 with 20k+ gold
As a person who didn’t get to play classic in the beginning, I always feel very hesitant to start it because I’m so far behind. So I hope they release tbc servers where everyone is lvl 1 to start.
im expecting tons of people that didn't play in classic to start playing in tbc, if that happens, you will almost certainly be able to start playing on a completely fresh server because they will need to open up more to accommodate the influx of players
Rank 14 gear from just Honor in the pre-patch?! That’s huge considering there’s a decent amount of people trying to grind out R14 right now in Phase 6, it’s basically a waste!
All the raids need to be set at their pre nerf levels and never change.
Sounds like someone who never tried pre nerf C'thun or pre nerf Muru. There is a difference between needing a nerf and being nerfed too hard.
@@Cruor34 did you play classic? Pre nerf Cthun is absolutely doable. Its a myth that it was mathematically impossible. As for Muru, why not at least start with the prenerf values and then change them later if it proves to be too difficult? Obviously, "nerfs" that involved bug fixes woukd stay in, but otherwise lets err on the side of harder and adjust later if its too much.
@@Hyperversity1 I did play Classic. World 4th Naxx clear. As far as I recall nobody beat pre nerf C'thun, and I mean his very first incarnation, I don't recall how many times he was nerfed its been 15 years. I also did 300-400 attempts on Muru before he died, there is hard, and then there is people don't want to play the game anymore. People are much better at the game now so we will see what they do.
@@Cruor34 yeah thats my only point. See if the player base can handle it, and if not then adjust accordingly. But there is no question that cthun's first iteration could be beaten with gearing knowledge, world buff stacking and consume stacking.
just before TBC was released blizzard did a marketing campaign to gain players, and offered 2x exp leveling for people to boost their characters up to 60 faster... I was one of the poeple who got in on this point. I would love for them to do a 2x xp from 0-60 for people that want to roll pallys and shammys
Make it separate, and start again or give people a instant lvl 60 in tbc
Their better be a pre expansion patch so I can get my dranie shammy to 58 before launch
Anf I better not have to buy tbc for the 4th time I'll be pissed
What do you all think about Blizzard letting players create a lvl 58 character? I think that would give players incentive to pick classes that were made good by subsequent patches. Which I don't really think is fair for people that picked hard classes to level through classic. Either way, TBC will rock.
No. Lazy people shouldn't be rewarded by getting to start at 58.
Just stop at TBC. General consensus has always been that this is the best version of the game. I don't want to worry about them going to Wrath
Yes ';,,;'
The "achievement" system changed the attitudes of players and made the game much worse
@@PinchySkree yeah its true they released a bunch of bullshit systems in wrath (not to mention LFG), but for people that didnt play back in the day (im a cata baby, when wrath was out i was watching my uncle play) it could be enthralling to experience northrend and uldaman for the first time. wrath is the most immersive looking expac imo, and many people claim that certain classes were at their best in wrath
Fresh tbc for the Initial world pvp then bye till woltk and repeat for me
Facts
Best addon for me
if its true makes me wish i didnt play have to redo everything all over again grand marshal and scarab lord like WTF pisses me off
The NoChanges movement has spoken. BC is forced on us, as it was back then.
@@shivasthong4924 what do u mean? Didn’t u appreciate the expansion ?
There's still a very faint chance that they will allow people to keep their current characters blocked and unplayable until fresh servers release at which point they will be able to copy them to there, but I really really doubt they will do that.
Back then i made a 2nd account from TBC then a 3rd account for LK i only bought TBC and classic i never even bought LK was given to me. so i had a OG 60 account, a 70 acc and 80 acc up untill they forced everyone to have the expansions, then i had to shut off my xp. I would play both 60 an 70, if i ever got the chance to get tired of 60, but never get there cause iv had to relevel an redo content 16 timvees from 2004 to 2021. Which is why i hate leveling now.
@@NumidiaWoW if they did that we would have to wait till PH6 release i doubt they would allow a t3 char to play on a server with only mc and ony released.
Your title makes us seem as if there are details on how BC will realease. Rename it to you guesses and opinions on how BC will release.
I very much hope that the new races are NOT available as part of the prepatch. If both new races release at the same time the portal opens, players will have to choose whether to start over with a level 1 and commit to that, or go through the Dark Portal with their level 60 characters. This is a GOOD thing because it will split up the playerbase a bit and should make both HFP and the new race starting areas slightly better.
Now think about the opposite. If the new races come out with the prepatch, everyone and their sibling will create a blood elf/draenei, cause why not. Those starting areas (one per faction) will be a shitshow. Then, you're gonna face an even worse shitshow a few weeks later when everyone is packed into HFP.
lets goo
All these "release tbc" vids just refer to staysafe as The only source of what release date
If they force everyone’s characters into tbc without a choice, oh man. It’s going to be a shit show.
There's still a very faint chance that they will allow people to keep their current characters blocked and unplayable until fresh servers release at which point they will be able to copy them to there, but I really really doubt they will do that.
Just imagine: TBC launched! If you were enjoying naxx or other classic content still or had no interest in TBC; Sorry! Times up! We’re now moving your character into something else, regardless of how you feel! .. That would be a capital OOF.
@@Saltymfdalty play on private servers if thats an issue
@@uberIno-ev7ns Good thing you don’t speak for Blizzard, huh?
@@Saltymfdalty neither you
Blizzard is going to destroy Classic TBC by letting people keep they're characters / transfer characters over to TBC servers by letting them bring over the thousands of gold that they farmed either by botting, boosting, or AoE farming. It'll probably ruin the economy in the first quarter of TBC release. Prices for mats will be either too cheap because of all the gold everyone has, or too expensive because the majority of people won't be out farming them, and will just be waiting at the AH to buy them, causing the prices to skyrocket because of scarcity.
tbc is the best expansion ever!
ITT: Speculation.
Finally arena and no more dead ass grinding for gear
Deduce*
Anyone wanna roll gnomes and make out in elwym Forrest?
Get out.
Biflette
But I want my premade 60!
ADD SOME FRESH TBC SERVERS
REMOVE LEEWAY
TONE DOWN SPELL BATCHING TO 50MS MINIMUM
ADD DUAL SPEC
GIVE BOTH PALLIES BOTH SEALS
REEEEEEE
HOW ABOUT NO SPELL BATCHING
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
This!
Sounds good 😉
If you want buffed/overtuned content just go play on your private servers.If you want things more challenging go play mythic+.Keep in mind that elitists (for 15 years old game lol )have ruined every private server out there so please stay on your shitty servers and don't come here.I just want to chill and have fun
ayoooooooooooo
my life will be ruined again
If they don’t reset the gold and the economy is fudged, guess I’ll just buy gold and further add to what’s wrong with the game.. (not like I haven’t been buying gold already kek)
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Too early... again
I’m so sick of tbc videos
PAGLE GANG
What about the economy on progressive servers? Reset would be nice : )
not happening
@@bowserplaylist899 unlucky :(
The economy is a big can of worm, I'd be surprised if Blizzard would even consider touching it but we'll have to wait and see.
Its start FRESH and clean or progress dirty and fucked.