LANDCRUISER 200 series / FAULTY INJECTORS ?? - EP. 50
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2022
- Do Landcruiser’s have issues with injectors? That’s the question I ask myself in this episode. I have a chat about my experience with the injector issues that I had with the 200 and also take a look at the recent history of my vehicle. I look forward to hearing from you guys on the topic as I have very limited knowledge on the issue.
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Have read a few reports about breakdowns and then ending up at Longreach Toyota, only to be told to come back in 3 days or more, just to plug in the scanning tool. In your case, this must have been your lucky day
Thanks for highlighting the common issue. You are helping others. Legend!
Thanks mate for your feedback. Cheers and safe travels.
Information received from a senior Toyota technician, apparently the issue is known to Toyota and caused from the EGR cooler creating moisture and corroding the injectors. This also leads to DPF issues. Apparently the issue was supposedly rectified from the August 2020 models onwards. It has been suggested that turning off the EGR via software also prevents the issue.
Food for thought. Anyhow, keep your videos coming. Love your work. Cheers.
Thanks mate for your feedback. Really appreciated. I thought something was up. Cheers. Thanks for watching. 🤙🍺🤙
I deleted my Egr 2020 model. Worse things ever
That's a bugger. LC2012. I always change the filter before 5000klm and use Liqui Moly Diesel Injection cleaner 90% of the time. 280,000klm and never had an issue. Touch wood!
Good to see it fixed and all back home!😎🤙
GDay Finn. Thanks mate. Now just have to plan the next adventure. 🤠🤙
Hope it is another epic series on searching 4 Adventure!
Can’t Wait!🤙😎🤠
Good on you for keeping the smile on your face 👍👍👍
Thanks Peter. I love my Landcruiser and love to travel. Thanks for watching and your comments. Cheers 🤙🤠🍺
I use a crd enhancer and a decarboniser additive from a company called cost effective Maintenance. I bought my 200 from the Vic rural fire service at 56,000ks and it’d clearly been filled up from Jerry cans out in the bush and I didn’t realise how loud the injectors were. I started using the crd enhancer at the start of a trip across the country and it progressively got quieter and quieter as I kept driving. It now is a different car, better economy, more linear power delivery and much quieter injectors and runs far better at 90,000ks than when I got it. The stuff is a bit $$$ but I swear by it and would recommend to anyone. Worth a mention that this is also a problem with 120-150 series prado’s and n70 Hilux when they get bad fuel, look into running additives, you won’t look back.
GDay mate. Thanks for feedback, interesting. Thanks for watching. Cheers
Great informative vid good result Toyota replacing the injectors etc at no cost, really that is how it should be to maintain a good reputation, problems of this nature shouldn't be happening at such low ks. I have an LC 200 2017 with 40k on the clock I will certainly be keeping & eye on the injectors. Thanks
G’Day Ian. Yeah, I was pleased it was done under warranty, but so it should. I’m sure Toyota are aware of these earlier injector issues reading between the lines and the new ones are not as sensitive. Thanks for watching our channel. Really enjoy when folks like yourself take the time to comment. Cheers 🍺🤠🤙
You make me cry with this video , because I just sold mine two times problems, computer sign, solenoid, supercharger issue fix it first time lost power again after almost 500,000 km to thousand and eight model…
Very common issue at around 80,000km. Toyota wouldn't have replaced them if they believed it was water in the fuel or dirty fuel. If they told you this they are full of it. Anyway, enjoying the channel keep it up👍
I agree. If Toyota could prove it was water related there's no way they'd be paying for new injectors.
Thanks Bill. Appreciate your comments 🤠🤙🍺
They tried to put fear into us when we broke down by suggesting it was something we had done and asking us if we were willing to risk having to pay back the crazy high tow truck costs. They said they will do an investigation then all of a sudden they changed to good guys. If they could have found anything to suggest we were at fault, they would have used it against us. Once upon a time they would have given real support to folks broken down with 60k on the clock but now its an abusive relationship.
Hey Marcus, was the motor tuned? Just curious.
@@bigfishfishing-111 Curious what you mean by "tuned"
Just had my 200 series 2019 repaired, number 4 injector was replaced by Toyota under warranty ,only 38000kms on the clock , hopefully I don't see that problem again
Hi, just came across your story. Thanks for sharing your experience. I have a July 2020 200 with 47k on the clock. I haven’t had any codes or other issues however am concerned with soot starting to build up in the exhaust tailpipe. I’m told that this is a sign. I just wanted to know if in addition to your pre-filter you also have a catch can fitted. Also what diagnostic tool did you buy?
Hi mate. It’s s fairly common issue I’ve been told. I don’t have a catch can and the brand of the diagnostic is Toolpro from Supercheap Auto. Cheers. Marcus.
We own the same car and had exactly the same issue. Ours had done under 60,000km.
Toyota kept telling us there was nothing they could do without the fault light being on at the time and we had to wait for the error code to come on and drive straight to Toyota without turning the car off, otherwise the code would clear.
We did this twice and twice they lost the data.
To cut a long story short, they finally got the data and sent it to Toyota Australia who straight away told them to replace all 8 injectors.
That was in June and all has been good since. Ours was injector 7 by the way.
We believe Toyota are aware of an issue, hence why they were so quick to tell the dealership to replace them all. The dealerships however, seem to be unaware and are giving all sorts of incorrect advice.
We just hope it was a bad batch of injectors that have since been fixed and we won't encounter the same issue in another 60k. Only time will tell.
Happy to chat if you want more info.
Hi Lisa. Thanks for your story. That’s frustrating for you. My opinion is that Toyota is aware of these problems and has possibly fixed the issues with new injectors. Thanks again for commenting.
Hi Marcus, do you have an aftermarket dpf back exhaust, if so were there any warranty issues
I had the same issues and got all the excuses from Toyota. Power service and disappointing with this common issue. Sold the 200 after having 2, now got an American truck and it kills the 200 without breaking a sweat.
Thanks for sharing your experience..
Oh what a feeling ay! You couldn't pay me to own a 200series.
For the crazy price of these injectors I'd be expecting them to last more than 200k klms. Many are quick to blame dirty fuel ect, it's such BS! This is what the filters are for and you even have secondary filtration.
I have no idea why Toyota cannot get it right with their common rail injection systems? They seem to have had issues across all their common rail shitbox diesels. Meanwhile, my 18year old 100series 1hd-fte still on its original pump and injectors with over 280k kms and not one fault code in its entire life. Toyota have gone backwards in reliability in a big way.
Thanks for your feedback.
Lol dreamer
Here’s me thinking I’m upgrading getting my 200. After hearing this.. to late anyway. I’ll keep my 100 an sell the 200. Bugger what a fricking lemon . I’m looking at injectors to!! Anywhere cheaper than the rest!!
I have two friends with 2019 200 series, and both have had the injectors and DPF's replaced at similar K's to yours.
Hi mate. Yes, I’ve heard it’s an issue. I didn’t get my DPF done however. Thanks for watching. Happy and safe travels. Cheers mate. Marcus.
I just had injectors, DPF'S & EGR cooler replaced under warranty. 81k on the clock. Yes there is definately known injector faults up to 2020 model.
That’s what I’ve been told too. Thanks for sharing. Cheers mate. 🤙
Diesel Injector issues has been an issue for a long time, over a decade, that is why the Y62 is looking more attractive.
we had an injector fail at around 40k and then again at 60k we broke down 1000kms from home and they (Toyota) said all need to be replaced. Not sure if they replaced them all as they said they don't have to tell us what they did as it was under warranty. Actually they (Wangara Toyota) said it was taken care of by Toyota Australia and not done under warranty. This was puzzling - why the distinction, Its a 2018 VDJ200R. I dont think its bad fuel, I think its shit injectors.
Hi Guys
Yes all injectors replaced at around 80,
All good now stay safe Cheers
I think they do! Having the same issue with our 2018 200 VX @ 165,000. It's currently at Toyota and needing all injectors replaced. We are waiting to see if Toyota will accept an after warranty claim. Cross fingers (We have two fuel filters). Might get the RYCO Water Separator filter with bluetooth also added.
They definitely do mate. Good luck with the claim. Thanks for watching. Cheers. Marcus.
Good News! They are replacing the injectors and the sensors with a hire car. Saved about 15$K@@searching4adventure
Thanks for sharing your experience mate. I'm starting to get the same problem as yours. Mine is a 2019 130K km and it says injector 8 is having issue. I booked it in at Toyota and they did a compression test. The whole time they had it, the check engine light didn't turn on but they are going off the data history and sending the request to HQ to repair it. They have advised me it is still safe to drive, I've requested it in writing, so they sent me an email.
Did they replace all the injectors or just the problem ones?
Hi mate. It’s a common issue apparently. Toyota replaced them all under warranty. Good luck. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. Cheers. Marcus.
Hey Marcus.
Was the engine tuned? Just curious because mine has been since 10k on the clock. If yours is tuned it would be soothing to hear, because I do worry if my injectors go. My 200 is on 40k atm. 2020 Gxl
Hi mate. No tune….
Yep you definitely need to get on my videos 😁✌️
Gday Anthony. Mate I’ve watch a few of your vids over the past year or so. Always informative. My knowledge is pretty limited. I’ll be sure to check out a few more. Thanks for watching. 🤙
Hi mate can you please tell me what warning lights was showing on your dash? I got engine light, skid light and a service light. I don’t know what they are. I am asking in behalf of my partner😊
Mine just lit up today too grrrr, very severe guess you say shudder @1500 rpm at highway speed, change gears and rpm shudder goes away. Pull off the road and vehicle nearly stalls and is running really rough
Geez I hope toyota sort me out monday
Change Diesel Filter every 3 months, fill up Diesel thank and ADD. 5 Lts 98 oct Petrol.
Long Live for Diesel Injectors.
My 2021 Model had new injectors under warranty at 150km. Literally the week I picked it up!!! They tried to blame the catch can on a fuel problem 😂
Hi mate. I’ve since found out it’s a common issue and Toyota are aware. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. Cheers.
245,000 kms on my 2009, so far so good. But I don't do too much offroading so maybe less chance of picking up a batch of bad fuel, although not impossible even in the big city.
Thanks for dropping a comment. That’s sounds great. Cheers. 🤙
The 2009 model has different injectors. I think solenoid injectors whereas from 2015 onward with the facelift model they had piezo injectors.
I have a 2017 Landcruiser 200 series. Toyota has just accepted a claim as it was out of warranty.80000 km .Dealership took photos of the intake , exhaust system plus any mods on the vehicle and submitted the claim. Toyota will replace all injectors the DPF and EGR systems under old warranty ,waiting for the parts. First thing they asked was does the vehicle have a catch can, extra fuel filter, I believe not having those mods saved me as they accepted the claim.They did not admit to the problem with the system, said it was only with the early Hilux models.
That’s good they approved the claim. The only question I got regarding mods was has it had a tune, which was no. Thanks for your feedback and also watching. Cheers mate. 🤠🍺🤙
@@searching4adventure The engine was stock standard no mods, I started to notice the exhaust smell, I then queried with the local Toyota dealership where it had been serviced and showed the soot on the rear of the vehicle .They then lodged the claim.
Obviously the secondary fuel fuel filter isn't doing the job, have heard people running different micron filters which can cause a slight cavitation in the fuel system
Mine has recently done this but its a 2017 model with 150k, but toyota are still covering it under warranty, so there must be an issue with those injectors for them to still be covering them.
Yes. They are aware I’m to believe. Thanks for watching mate. Cheers.
I just had mine replaced including EGR and DPF due to blowing excessive soot. 2018 200 series with 60000kms on it. To their credit, Toyota did it under a “goodwill” warranty claim as it was well out of the warranty period. It’s a common problem for 2018 models Im told.
Yep. I agree. They are aware that there is an issue. Great they did it for mate. Cheers. Marcus.
Did they say if it was a permanent fix or could it possibly happen again. I’m a 2018 too but no problem yet.
Is your second filter pre or post the factory one ? Should be pre if it is not.
Hi mate. It’s Pre. 🤙
@@searching4adventure That is good, a bit of fuel conditioner every now and then is good for maintaining injectors. I use Morey's you can get it from Supercheap.
I have the same 2019 GXL LC 200 series, 73,000klm. Same issue occurred 3 weeks ago towing my van. It has happened 3 times since just going to and from work 20klms away. RACQ scanned it that night on the side of the highway as faulty injector number 5. Same code each time it has happened since then. Had it and the van towed to John Madill Toyota at Gympie. Service Manager told me that they have done dozens of warranty replacements of injectors in this model LC 200 and that this is a known issue. I am awaiting approval of my warranty claim as we speak. I am waiting for RACQ to come and wipe the codes AGAIN while I am writing this. I might add that any vehicle mods, even an oil catch can, Toyota will deny the claim. I’ll bet my left nut it won’t be done this side of Christmas so I am buying a scan tool tomorrow or I won’t be having a Christmas holiday this year. $129 at Supercheap if any readers are in the same boat. Coincidentally, I had just bought fuel at a reopened little corner store near me just before I set off on my fateful trip, so I also thought maybe dodgy fuel but it ain’t a fuel issue. And thank you for your video mate 👍
Hey mate , thanks for sharing your experience. I’m sure you’ll get it approved to be replaced. Took a week for me to get approval. Grab that scan tool. Saved myself a few times up on cape York. Would have been stuffed without it. Good luck and safe travels. Cheers. 🤙🤠🤙
@@searching4adventure I’m confident it will be approved. I love the Cruiser, it’s a pleasure to drive, but this issue has been a royal pain in the &#@%.
I feel your pain mate. Once the new injectors are in you’ll be all good. She’s a great car.
@@searching4adventure yeah you’re right
Injectors should get close to 200,000 kilometres before they fail or start having problems, 70k is pretty low in my opinion. I reckon there are problems with the injectors.
I had been told that as well. I reckon my injectors were faulty. Thanks for watching and making a comment. 🤠🤙🍺
I just had my 2017 200 (54000km) start playing up. Surprise surprise its a injector failure! Now waiting for the Toyota dealer to check it out. Pretty average considering the kms! Just hoping I don't get dicked around by Toyota and they just sort it out. I have been waiting on a new 300 for over 12mths but definitely having second thoughts now.
Sorry dude about having to cut ya trip short, bugger. But you can get dirty fuel anywhere not just in the outback. I've personally experience bad fuel in the cities.
Hi Darren. Thanks mate for your comment. Good to know. Cheers.
Even if the LandCruiser is out of warranty at 70000km odd, Australian Consumer Law would cover the repair (Fitness for purpose and low kms).
Hi Dan. 100%.
@@ausguy4385 Doesn't matter, Australian Consumer Law would cover the repair (Fitness for purpose and low kms) and they would be told to fix it!
@@ausguy4385 Toyota replaced the injectors etc at no cost, problems of this nature shouldn't be happening at such low ks.
@@ausguy4385 You're getting ahead of yourself champion, Toyota replaced the injectors free of charge.
@@ausguy4385 Did you buy a Cleo and a Focus?
79 series with unichip for at least 200000km and still on original injectors at 300000km but I might just be lucky or punch enough fuel through that they don’t have time to fail 😂😂
Thanks Mark for your comments. Cheers. Thanks for watching.
If the valve clearances have been checked then the problem was most likely caused by contamination by removing and reinstalling the fuel pipes. These failures only happen if people touch them. If no one touches them, they don't fail.
Thanks mate for your comments. Thanks for watching. Cheers.
Interesting theory First there is no valve adjustment on Vdj V 8 Diesel engine Second I have been working on diesels of all sorts and never never had a fault from removing and replacing injector lines I would suggest that Toyota and other manufacturers spread this nonsense,in order to cover up a real problem that they do not wish to take responsibility for
The lesson I think is , diesel is not what it used to be , with the cost of diesel now and the repair costs stacking up , and considering what you pay to buy a landcruzier, I’m glad I bought the petrol cruiser, as I can fix most things my self at a way lower cost for parts , than diesel parts and mechanics costs , and remember that Europe has band diesel vehicles to the public, and Australia is part of the Paris climate accord, it’s only a matter of time before the band will come to Australia, keep this in mind in the future, and I know the viewers will say it won’t happen here but , remember John Howard said there would not be a GST introduces in Australia but not 6 months later they put it in place , just saying is all .
First of all, diesel is the same as it always was, it’s the common rail fuel systems of today that can’t handle it. Also it’s banned, not band.
@@frankz5864 diesel is not the same as it all ways was, it has a higher Sulfur content than the 90s diesel did plus the the fuel injection pumps of today run at about 45000 psi , nothing to do with the common rail system , oh no the spelling 🙄
@@richardlang8083 Pre 2009 yes but Since 2009 it’s been mandatory in Australia to run ultra low sulphur diesel from 10-50ppm. The downside of that is that the fuel has less lubricity and that’s why it’s hard on injectors and also why everyone with any diesel should run an additive to drastically prolong injector life particularly those with common rail diesels. Regularly change fuel filters with only oem ones is also very important.
@@richardlang8083 also the pressure of fuel at the rail has no bearing on anything, it’s the micro size of the common rail injector nozzle that gets clogged with crap from the inside and covered in carbon on the outside of the tip that turns the fuel from a mist into a jet which causes hot spots on the piston and causes damage. Running additives with high detergent levels keeps them clean and also lubricates them. Decarboniser additives keep the nozzles clean on the combustion chamber side.
Sell it and get a jeep mate… much more reliable. 👌
Na in all seriousness… these Tojos have a bad rep for injectors. If there was water in the fuel, the water separator should detect it, giving obvious warnings. It’s not fuel. Considering you had… how many tanks of fuel over that period? It’s shit injectors. Big warranty issue.
Thanks for your feedback. Cheers.
What were the codes? Thanks
Hi mate. P0204 was the code.
Unfortunately Toyota injectors have and are still are problematic since the introduction the V8 diesel
Hi Mark. I was told that the newer ones are improved and should last. Thanks for watching.
Lc200 2016 90'000km 3 sets of injectors now dpfs have shit them selves.
Gee, that sounds really bad.
Do you use fuel doctor??
Hi mate. No, never used that.
Overated cars 2 people I know have had nothing but problems and his dealer said just from them alone is 12 Toyotas inline to be fixed and there selling there's as soon as Toyota has fixed there issues 13.5k worth!!! Il stick with my cheap ass Amarok 300k km n still going strong bargain!! 💪
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. Cheers.
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Sorry your trip was ruined. People buy these vehicles for their so called reliability, they are expensive to start off with and then you spend a lot to make them capable for touring it is quite an investment and to have them fail over and over with similar issues is very disappointing.
Yeah, I was pretty disappointed given the age of the car. However this was the first issue in a Toyota and I’ve been in and out of Landcruisers for 32 years. Thanks for watching.
For such an expensive vehicle & a problem you knew about , why didn’t you just pause & get it fixed early on. No need to bag out on Toyota & the rest of us that own 1 , thanks anyway.
He’s saving us from getting a proving lemon. Fu@k Toyota if their being slippery about it. They should stand behind their badge . It’s millions of dollars of labour an parts .
Just subscribe to fourby4 diesel , it’s a prado group but you will learn every you need to know about injectors .
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