300 SERIES LANDCRUISER ISSUES? || My thoughts on the V6 & Burning Oil
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- Опубликовано: 11 май 2023
- Since posting last weeks video about ordering a new 300 series we've received a large number of messages, comments and emails warning us of 'oil burning issues'.
A lot of this is because Auto Expert John Cardogan posted a video recently about the 300 series oil consumption;
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Strange considering John has spoken about why modern engines burn oil several times before, stressing that's its a normal design feature of modern engines in an effort to achieve better fuel consumption and reduce engine wear/friction;
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For the same reasons I jumped in first to buy the 300. Way better than our 200 more power and better economy. The interior has finally justified the price and have had no oil issues. You will love it
Congrats Cam on a well articulated response to John Cadogan’s video.
Possibly explains why my V6 Ranger uses a bit of oil also… Keep the great videos coming - we enjoy your content.
As always Cam a balanced commons sense approach and a decision on what’s right for you, your family and current circumstance. All the best for the 300 and the the many adventures ahead👍👍👍
I have had a 300 since January 2022. I have had two issues. Neither caused the car to break down or stop. One was an error message about an injector, and another was a software issue. Both were fixed quickly and easily. I have monitored oil usage, and I don't have that issue. It's a wonderful vehicle.
That seems to be pretty consistent with what I'm hearing from other owners. Cheers mate
Hi what was the software issue ?
Hi Cam. this is the first of your videos I have see, and I like it. Thankyou.
I have a 200 GXL(last of the pre DPF) now with 235,000km on the clock that has been faultless. Same with my 120 series Prado (Diesel of course) before that, near 200,000, with chip, exhaust etc. etc. etc. and faultless as well. Prior to that a Celice LT2000(225,000km's) many moons ago. But again faultless. They can build a car no doubt.
I spent 2 years working as a consultant(training) and roamed the plants(in Melbourne) on a regular basic. The attention to detail(and accuracy of build) was amazing.
One of the things that really got my attention was how fussy they were with the fit and finish. That is, internal fit out, panel fit(same gap everywhere) and contour fit. All the time striving for excellence.
Anyhoo, enough of me prattling on. Loved the video, will be watching a few more Thanks.
Peter
Thanks Cam for your reassuring opinion. I've ordered a LC300 too and watched JC's concerning video on the oil consumption on the vehicle. I feel a lot better now that you've pointed out JC's previous videos about oil consumption being normal on modern engines. Like you, I am also hopeful that by the time my car arrives more of the bugs would have been ironed out.
Love the Cardogan-esque thumbnail 😂 You’ve done your research and made an informed decision of what best meets YOUR needs based on the information available at the time…can’t do more than that!
Cheers mate!
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Well thought out and considered video Cam.
Admittedly, I allowed myself to be influenced by the fear and hype surrounding the reported oil burning issues and other faults being reported.
After considering your points, I now realise that the oil issue isn't necessarily a result of a fault but rather something that Toyota and owners have to manage for various reasons, as you explained.
We shouldn't let the possibility of problems dictate our lives and prevent us from enjoying experiences, even Dingo Piss Creek.
Cheers mate. Well said! We're not worried, just excited to take delivery and make it ours!
Thank you for the alternative opinion. The beauty of youtube, intelligent discussions and debates on topics. Much appreciated.
Cheers Jay 👍
Awesome video, you always deliver with great explanations. Great info mate.
We have just picked up our new lc300 and had the same concerns regarding the oil use. Your explanation is exactly as I felt, Toyota aren’t stupid they have tested this motor thoroughly. Looking forward to getting on the road with a caravan behind and exploring this great country of ours.
Quick question Kev. If Toyota aren't stupid, how come the class action against them (DPF) is costing sooooo much?
@@things_I_saw Hi Mikayla, your right about the DPF , my comments were only regarding the oil consumption and my experience so far.Maybe I am wrong only time will tell.
@@kevingoding4272 I find it interesting that before owning the vehicle, Wild Touring is so sure there is no issues based on the past.
Great video, simply put, the facts. Enjoy the wait and the vehicle when it arrives. We love our 300, very capable and comfortable.
Still driving my 80 1HDT with all its issues, still going strong with no problems. You are spot on mate, just do your oil changes.
Thank you for explaining it very well.
Very well addressed Cam👍
I put a million kays on a cruiser.
The reason john put out the video was a response
to a press release by toyota themselves
Modern engines with larger internal clearances lead to oil contamination by combustion gases
And fuel dilution into the sump which destroys the lubrication qualitys of the oil
No engine manafacture that has ever used a hot vee has ever had good reliabiility petrol or diesel ever
Ive been a diesel mechanic for 40 yrs everything thing from single cylinder to cat engines that make 500hp out of 1 cylinder just to give you some back on me
I agree with most of what u said budd but would u not consider the later LS’s a good reliable petrol engine? Witch make good HP fairly easy
Good on ya mate! Every car has its issues and u guys do your research. You’ll be fine and love it. I can’t wait to see it all come together.
Well put Cam, thankyou, I agree with you on your thoughts on some of John Cadogans commentary.
Great video Cam - your comparison between the FTE and VDJ was bang on and if I remember correctly the naysayers squawked about the VD using oil when it first came out 😂….sounds familiar aye 👍🏻.
300 will be another great Landcruiser, my in laws have one in the family now….coming up on 15-20K and no issues, we both towed the campers down to Esperance & back for Easter….was cool to see how it compared to the 200 in real life as close to identical conditions….couldn’t really seperate them. Good luck with the new purchase and keep up the great content.
Thanks for info Cam ,very level headed no bullshit insight. Im buying a 300 now 😀
Great content, I have a 300 Sahara and the truck is just fantastic. Have done all the tracks in the Vic high country, not one issue the vehicle was magnificent. Yes the sensors are a bit of a challenge but to be fair that is about me getting used to the tech. Again great vid mate, my view, JC is an angry man with not much to do. Enjoy the new truck.
Good people skills. Well considered and put together argument.
You hit the nail on the head Cam also that is a beautiful backdrop behind you
Great explanation video. The LC 300 is a great vehicle, tows well, comfortable to drive and reasonable economy.
No long term results as yet.
Mate the 300 will be awesome forget the nah sayers. Your last vid regarding weights ect has really made me re think things as I had originally ruled out a 300 but no longer.
Keep up the good work man ✌️
Good video. You make a lot of sense. I was holding off upgrading to a 300 series until i watched your video.
Cheers Jo, all the best with whatever way you go!
The Y62 is a beast and will have a cult following. It used less petrol than our mates 200 series in the Vic high country recently. Yes I own a Landcruiser. 79s were using oil early on too. Nissan drive away 90 grand. Cruisers are simply too expensive these days.
@@thelonewolf666 Good for you.
Yep I must say, the Y62 is the real deal
My sister have a stock y62 and I can tell you she does not use less than my 200 series. I dont know how your mate drive his 200. It must be broken. I'm constantly getting 10/11 per 100km. Tow my 2t boat it drinks 13 per 100km. It is tuned. Before the engine and gearbox tune I'm seating at about 1 to 1.5liter more per 100km. I got hd bullbar and lights plus 20inch rims with 285 60 all terrain tyres.
@@mclongkock6678why do you need to tune an engine? isn't it tuned already out of the factory? Do you think you know better than Toyota engineers?
Maybe you save few litres of fuel but what about some other problems you might create?
And what about the obsession of touring/towing on a car rather than a real truck? 😅
@tyyuuuihycyctct toyota engineer has guidelines they must work under. The 4.5 v8 diesel is so under tuned from factory. There is so much more power to be found after a re map. Also diesel engines are over engineered from any brand. Thicker pistons and fatter rods. They can hold 3 times the factory power level no problems. They will run out of injectors before they blow up. It not about knowing more than an engineer.
Great comments Cam. everyone always has a view - good and bad, but if we believed everything you get told you would never buy anything. I have had Toyotas and Nissans and other vehicles over last 35 years and every new model has detractors and every vehicle will have its niggling issues. I love the process you went through to select the car that is right for you guys - no vehicle is perfect, but it ticks the most boxes for you - that is what matters. And you go into it knowing what to look out for - every diesel engine uses oil - it is just a matter of how much. Checking all fluids (Oil, Water, etc) should be standard for any vehicle on regular basis not just at service intervals. I am sure you guys will have many years of trouble free motoring. you will love it. I am on my 5th Landcruiser over the last 20 years. I have worked in the resource sector (mining etc) for over 30 years - there is a reason why you see Toyotas all over Australia in remote places. great backdrop for the vid - looks fantastic cant wait to see more of the trip.
Cheers Graham, appreciate the comment mate.
Shark Bay trip was a ripper! So much content to edit now haha
Very well addressed
Great video mate well spoken as always 👍
Very good response and I think you hit the nail on the head with the modern engines and their oil consumption. Especially using John's own information to prove it
I will disagree about the VDJ though. It was a fuel guzzling lemon when introduced and ended its life just the same. They were the bane of workshops on every site I worked at. The straight 6 1H family were and always will be the best they ever made.
You’re spot on, look forward to following you build, JC is an influencer of the worst type. I’ve sold plenty of 300’s and haven’t had any clients come back with concerns. Will it use some oil, yes, monitor it over first 20k before any concern. Best of luck. I’m in Perth if you have any queries👍🏼
Thats good feedback mate, cheers!
Good stuff. In the 80's and 90s most cars used 1 lt of oil per tank, at least mine did. How people forget????
All new vehicles have issues, but I will say this, I have seen more 300 LCs on tilt trays than 200LCs surprisingly. Will be watching the 300LC close as I am interested in them myself.
Wealthy people who can buy a 300 get it delivered via tow
Wealthy people who can buy a 300 get it transported to their destination for interstate travel rather than drive the 10+hrs interstate
Wealthy people who can buy a 300 will get it towed over even minor issues to avoid causing any damage by driving with a CEL
... and "wealthy" people who lease vehicles will always opt for the free tow
Great insight Cam, thanks for the update. But after watching this video. I'm now more interested in the up and coming series. That fish catch. Awesome. Bring it on.
Cheers Mark...
PS. Watch those K's😉😉😉😉😂😂
The oil burn can be very reel...but...it can be minimised by not letting the engine idle for prolonged times, especially during initial run in period, as it will promote cylinder glazing. Don't under estimate the effects but on the flip side, a little oil is not the end of the world, as long as you are aware of it. Be aware, John is not the only one that has noticed the increased oil burn but I think it is likely a bigger issue when exposed to increased idle times with no load.
Very good video Cam,
I watch a lot of JC’s videos, and appreciate the physics explanation given in many of them. I absolutely agree with you though, that a lot of his videos are contradictory. For example, regarding whether or not to install a transmission cooler. One of his videos suggests that unless there’s evidence that 4x4 transmissions are failing and leaving their ‘entrails’ all over Australia, then there’s no need to fit one and in fact fitting one compromises warranty. Another of his videos on the same topic some time later suggests fitting the biggest one you can. (My personal opinion by the way is that there is no real evidence of transmissions in modern vehicles failing, only the very occasional anecdotal report from a friend of a friend of a transmission cooler retailer). Consequently, I watch JC’s videos for entertainment value rather than reliable advice.
I’m sure you’ll enjoy your new 300 series Landcruiser and have negligible issues.
Being given advice from sheep. They watch a video and pass on the information they’ve seen regardless of facts. They just instantly believe what they’ve been told.
You’re 100% doing the right thing Cam.
Well said
I personally resent being called “a Sheep “ I own. 2022 LC300 VX and have had multiple issues regarding MY LC300 especially the excessive consumption of oil and the fuel contamination of my oil let alone the coked up GVT as well as electrical issues. So me personally I am coming from my own experience 😡. Question to you Sir is do you own a LC300 and if not stop being a keyboard warrior and if you are - then I thank you because based on comments like yours I have decided to take appropriate action to recover my money for the above mentioned vehicle and I am certainly willing to take this as far as I can .
@@pheonix1758 yes I do. And I’d love a link to your Facebook page or Instagram showing your vehicles.
That’s a total misuse of the word “keyboard warrior“ by the way.
@@confuzsays7196 what does that even mean!?
Friend of mine has a problematic 300, not that I was going to say anything until I saw your “I’m a champ” statement, yours is good ? Great, that’s good news but right now there are issues for some owners.
Great vid mate, scare mungering on all subjects seems to be the thing of the day. That was a massive shark as well. ✊✊
Cam thanks for the video 👍
Thanks Cam, we have had ours since December last year and have not had any problems, we love it. Heading to central Australia mid year and imagine it will be very comfortable to drive. The only question I would have is we don't intend to change the stock tires yet, as a minimum we will add TPM as a risk mitigation strategy. Thoughts? Sorry we will be driving the GCR.
Over 61,000k's on our LC300 and no oil problem so far. About to put another 8,000-9000k's on it over the next month (Sydney to Cape York and back) so will let you know it any issue surface.
Cheers guys, that seems to be the feedback I'm getting from most owners!
Toyotas doing what they do best , rack up Ks , Awesome to hear !
@@ProofBenny thanks mate, can t wait to see how it tackles the Cape. It's not the newest vehicle I've taken up there (D-max and van both 4 weeks old), but it is the most expensive.
Hi Cam, congratulations on your purchase of a new LC 300. I hope all goes well and lives up to your expectations. On the subject of Shock Jock Motoring Journalists,they are all about getting as much controversy and viewing as possible to make as money as possible. If thousands of people get pleasure from buying LC 300 or Y62 and travelling this amazing country towing a caravan safely, good luck to them. It's all about live and let live and tolerance, and the purchase isn't stupid if it gives one pleasure.....Imagine if one were to think standing at the altar 4 or 5 times was possibly stupid ? It wouldn't be tolerant correct ?... At least one can sell an LC and a caravan.
Hey, Michelin has never made a bad tyre before either. Bahaha
Good onya mate, I'm excited for you on getting a 300 congrats 👍👍
Cheers Bergo, can't wait to get it and make it mine!
Hi Cam, Spot on comments mate. My 2023 LC300 GX is great. Oil level is fine with ours. I agree with your opinion. Had Pedders 4090kg GVM upgrade.
Cheers mate, can't wait to get it and make it mine!
Great video Cam. Like I said on your last one with emissions controls etc etc; I just wish we got the petrol like the Arabs. Nonetheless looking forward to seeing how it goes mate.
Our recent trip to Karratha was a 4000km round trip, towing 1.9t of boat. Cannot confirm the oil consumption in litres, however the oil level was topped up before the trip and on the dipstick was 15mm below the full line post trip. The 300 series has about 40k kms on the odo now for reference.
Thats good feedback mate, cheers.
Have you used enough oil to trigger the 'oil low' warning on the dash between services?
@@WildTouring No oil level warning lights as of yet. Service intervals of 10k km's. This was the first trip towing anything of significance, with the oil topped up before the trip and 40k service completed just after the trip.
Really well said mate!!
Right on Cam, right on!!
Hot v have been used in big diesels for a long time it keeps heat in the exhaust and turbo which will make it more efficient
The early 200 series had a big problem with oil issues. Took them a couple of years to sort it. New models of any car always have teething issues.
Not to many 200 series owners talking about that mate, they were blowing up like second hand lawnmowers
Spot on mate!
Well said Cam 👍
Hi Cam, love your content, you keep it real, I do have one question you said you would be looking into with the 300... thats the roof load limit. With the boat 100 kg or if you allowed rack and boat 100kg, how are you getting around this please?
Hi Cam , I wish I'd waited, bought the first run on the new facelift Prado, to say I was dissapointed was an understatement. I went from the 120 petrol to the diesel. It was poor towing, very similiar in consumption to my petrol when towing. The new model has everything I would want
.150kw. Otherwise I love my Prado...have I had any issues ..no its been super reliable. As you say I wouldn't know if its burning oil,as its regularly serviced.
We are the post august 2021 model , the 150kw motor, its been great , we only tow 2 tonne and it does it beautiful , we haven't modified it at all other then dual bats and a set of drawers and fridge , same tyres and suspension , we want to get some airbags for those heaver trips , but it has not missed a beat , the 300 will be a lovely upgrade by the time this Prado has 200k on the clock
Very well said Cam, I agree wholeheartedly.
Time will be the true test to know who is right and who is wrong, it is too early to judge yet.
When you have been around long enough (as I have) every new landcruiser gets bagged about "too tech" or being "too soft" but in time every new model proves itself to be reliable and capable.
I've got a new Prado which I love but I believe you have made a great choice for your purpose.
Can't wait to see the build and your future travels.
Best wishes to you and your family.
I hope they get onto problems with the hot V better than they got onto the 2.8litre
DPF, or the 4.5litre V8 dusting airbox issues. I bought a new 200 in 2021 but I did upgrade the airbox...
Mabe put air vents on bonnet to let the heat out
Had a 79 series LC from new, over 200,000km and 100K of that towing a 2.5T van on GCRx5, GRRx2 numerous outback tracks inc Tanami. Never had a dusting issue, its only an issue if you install the lid incorrectly or use cheap air filters with hard seals. As for new motor oil use, its going to be higher in the initial 20-30,000ks till it beds in. Agree with others though, thoroughly check every aspect of your servicing and Toyota dealers generally take shortcuts.
I bought a 2021 200 sahara with 2500kms put all the mods catch can airbox fuel filter straight away first thing, ive seen on forums some vds 660000 kms still going strong the people who have had a dusted one obviously dont know about the issue
Another cracking video Cam. Cannot wait to see your 300 and what you do with it. The due diligence that you went through to get to your decision is amazing.
In reagards to John, yep dingo piss creek is clearly not his cup of tea. But as someone who is newish to the 4x4 world I love the balance he brings in regards to mods ands everything.
Honestly listening to just 4x4 suppliers who love to tell you what you need as they are selling a product, it's good to get an outside voice that's not trying to flog shit off to you.
Keep up the great work and looking forward to all your future videos.
Cheers mate.
JC knows his sh*t and can absolutely be worth listening too. He's a clever bugger and I've got a lot of respect for him and his knowledge on most things automotive.
But you've just got to be a critical thinker these days when you're doing your research, like you said - balance. Just like 4x4 suppliers (or car brokers..) may push their products on you. Influencers can also make shockjock content to get your click through for advertising revenue. Its good to get your information from a range of sources to paint a clear picture!
I’ve been a subscriber to JC’s RUclips channel for a little while now and the thing is, he’s happy to go hammer and tong with ANY car manufacturer regardless of make if they basically screw consumers over for anything. Over the years, he’s called BS on the likes of Mercedes Benz, Toyota and who could forget VW so I don’t believe he has a particular gripe against LCs.
As had been noted in other comments, JC does have a thing about caravanning in general and argues that for the 200 odd $K that people regularly spend on a tow rig and caravan, you could instead spend your holidays in a 5-star hotel for the same money with ‘Tiffany’.
Apart from that, you’ve gotta hand it to him, he knows his sh#t and wherever applicable, he bases his arguments on facts - time will tell with the LC300
JC is a flog with an agenda. As you say he doesn’t go camping or 4x4 ing. Never seen him test a car at all let alone in the bush. Workshop full of tools that look unused. He’s just got a bunch of fanboys that think he’s some sort of guru. I own a HDJ79 Ute, and VDJ76 and both these vehicles use about 1L of oil between 10k services, as did the other FTE Ute and 1HZ Ute that I have owned in the past
Great Vid Cam. People are biased and see what they want to. Point is there will never be a perfect vehicle.
Cheers Mark, you're absolutely correct!
There's always compromise somewhere.
I respect your opinion/ choice- my comment came from personal experience not from any other persons point of view - I totally disagree with your statement regarding that oil burning is good for a diesel engine- the blow by not only stuffed my turbo but also created huge amount of carbon/ sludge build up in my intake system causing multiple issues from lack of power to turbo surging, the LC300 was bought from new and has done a total of just over 70k but has been back to Toyota 54 times. It is important to note that other than a tow pack ( Toyota installed ) Method rims / 35 ‘ tyres fitted the vehicle is stock. Caravan I tow is a 19’6. Which when fully ladened comes in well below max limits - independently weighed and certified. The trans temp is also a big problem ( for me ). For the record I am not a Toyota hater in fact I have Toyota’s most of my life and sure there are always teething problems when new models and engine configurations are released, I certainly was fully aware that would be the case in regards to the LC300 but I was completely blindsided by the multiple issues I have experienced with this particular model. As I stated at the beginning I totally respect your opinion and decision to own a LC300 ( no one has the right to tell you otherwise), as I stated in my original comment just be mindful of the points raised - as far as forums go ,they are a great wealth of knowledge and like minded people but they are all aware of Toyota’s extremely poor handling of the DPF issue and it took a ruling by the court before they were forced to admit liability. Just a last point if the engine was that great why would Toyota put out multiple service bulletins regarding the oil consumption issue and the subsequent internal fowling of the engine be it the fowling of the GVT or the increased restriction on the intake side due to oil/ carbon build up and the numerous electrical issues ( granted I could have been the unfortunate one that bought a Lemon ) but with complete respect I am not the only one who is encountering these issues. I sincerely hope that you do not have the issues I am having, stay safe and safe travels
Mate, this the comment everyone should be reading yet...crickets. Ignored by every toy boy who love Toyota. Sad.
He’s done his research 👍
@@donr62 all good my friend, I am absolutely sure he has, I was just clarifying my original comment I made when he first posted, that was all👍. I truely wish him all the best and bare no malice towards Toyota- I just want my LC 300 fixed properly if they can’t then I will be putting in a claim. I need confidence in my tow vehicle especially if I want to go off grid in the remote areas of Australia. I hope you stay safe and well.
It just might be a lemon as I also have one and tow just like you with no issues. Years ago I had a Hilux that was a lemon while to this day people crow about just how reliable they are. It’s called mass production and is basically the luck of the draw. (Unfortunately)
Well said mate
Very well said mate. Thanks for posting some common sense.
Agree with most you've said there Cam... I did pick up on that video from John Cabogan that the service interval has been increased to 20K km or 12 months. There's going to be a lot more than just burnt oil if users adhere to that! Good onya for havin your say and on your new purchase.
Totally agree with what you wrote, I also watched that video and had a similar thought..the thing is, if people are fortunate enough to afford to buy a 300 series than a liter of oil here and there won’t be an issue..
Yer oil dosnt hold its goodness for that long
Totally agree. My Dmax is the same, oil change interval is 20k. Can't help but wonder if it was a way to save money on capped price servicing?
I'll be changing oil every 10k on the new one, same as I do on the Dmax.
The 300 hasn’t increased to 12m/20k. Toyota would not do this to keep up with the Jones’s and threaten their reliability crown.
@@mikehendo6656 You're right Mike.... just looked up the service manual online and it's still 10K. Obviously John C has had a brain fart in that enormous head of his.
I’m not a fan of Toyota but bloody well said mate, good luck with it all and I’ll check out your channel
Cheers from down south
Great analysis mate. We all shoulda known you'd done your homework
Cheers mate, hopefully It pays off and I get a good run from it!
very well explained mate, I wouldn't trust John Cardogan to tell me how to eat a bowl of cereal.
😂😂
Sorry to inform you about Toyota not making a bad land cruiser the 200 series took 3 years to get the car to be good prior to that is was pretty average. Good luck with your new car hope you have a lot of good times. I do not know why you even bother making this video most of the bad reports are from those who have never owned one they just want to make noise. This happens to all the leading vehicles there are so many haters who are mostly full of themselves. I have ordered a Wildtrak V6 and yep I have had a lot of advice of sort just as you are getting.
All the best.
Very insightful report Cam. I’m awaiting on the arrival of my new VX and had concerns about the oil use, but every person I have spoken too who own a LC300 reports the oil use problem as BS.
We have a LC 300 VX Mark, towed our van from Brisvagas back to Cairns, nice car, just be aware to turn off your PASB switch on your right underneath the Steering wheel when reversing if towing, otherwise it activates the break, scared the hell out of me, had to google to find out what was going on, also, keep things off the dash, as there is a senser there that if covered will think it is night an dim your dash, but we love the car, cheers Les & Denise
I checked the oil level on my 300 after seeing the video from John Cadogan and the level is on the high mark of the dipstick. This was around 5 months after the service.
I tow a 3.5t caravan and the 300 has been great so far. Fuel consumption towing a 3.5t caravan is around 17.5 litres per 100km.
Hi We went to Dubai in 2012 and they used v6 petrol model for desert tours back then. Australia
yeah a good informative video thanks mate
Cheers mate!
Gee I don’t envy you Cam! I’ve noticed it a lot since owning ours that everyone seems to have an opinion on them even if you didn’t ask for their opinion, could only imagine the crap you’ve been told. Thanks for explaining this to other 300 owners who know a lot less about cars than you.
Lastly- it’s a bloody great car, we love it 🤙
John Cardogan hates Toyota's, his opinion is one man's view, I love Toyota's. Great show mate
Well said Cam. Enjoy your new car
Cheers Kenno, can't wait to get it!
Hi Cam, Great vid addressing the oil burning issues. Brand new engines do use a bit of oil and then it all settles down when the motor is run in. Cheers Graeme
@@thelonewolf666 My 79 did for the first 10,000 kms but hasn't since. So speaking from experience, not theory!
LC300 owner for over a year now. No issues.
Cheers for the feedback, thats what im hearing from 99% of owners.
I think people forget that the v8 used heaps of engine oil when that first came out
You also have to consider the rear axles. The caravan adds 150% to the towball.
Sorry, I’m not having a go at you but I am seeking clarification on what you meant. You see as I’d the caravan adds 150% to your rear axel load? What caravan? Could you explain it a bit further, because not all vans will increase the load on the rear axel by that amount.
You mean Mr. Cadogan isn't an expert on everything?
He’s certainly an expert at hating on Toyota. The engine is well tested and proven
@@Corey-pd3mi And Nissan... pretty much sticks to the brand's that pay him 🤣
I had a 2008 200series and replaced it with a later model 200. The first one needed a 1L top up of oil every 9000km which then got changed after 10kkm.
Haven’t got a 300 yet but have driven one and it’s a much better gearbox paired with a more powerful smaller capacity engine.
Best all round car on earth. Incredible off-road and more comfortable than my C Class Mercedes around town. Not far off on fuel consumption too. 2022 GXR.
Ignore the noise mate you made the right choice.
Cheers mate, can't wait to get it!
You are exactly right
The world was going to end when the V8 came out …
Nowadays they are the best thing since sliced bread !
I have had many Landcruisers
And NEVER had a problem…
I wouldn’t have a problem buying one …
Good choice !
everything you said is 100% correct👍🏻👍🏻✌🏼✌🏼
Just sold my LC200. Used 1.5L oil every 5k. Faults on dash constantly 4LO and diff lock would appear for no reason, front parking sensors would play up, steering wheel leather peeled off and front drivers side ball joint broke the day i traded it in. 3 friends have 300 series and 2nd row seats are too tight and engine very very boring and not great on diesel when towing. Sure the interior better than my 200 series but stupid money for what you get. 97k for brand new Patrol TiL leaves me plenty of change for chrome delete and interior black out, new infotainment and instrument cluster upgrade plus my kids fit in 2nd row! Did I mention how much smoke my 200 series would pump out every 3 days of driving? Never again and maybe when I’m in my 60’s I’ll contemplate a 500 series 😂
The GCC mainly sells the Petrol engines though (the 4.0L v6 and the 3.4L v6 Twin Turbo).
Fair enough, enjoy.
Cheers Mike 👍
Will you be limited by the amount of weight the roof is rated for 🤷♂️ will it take your roof roper toper?
I must say my trust in Toyota has been diminished by the treatment of customers w.r.t. known issues in recent years and more especially since I have a 79 and I have not had a stellar customer experience with the service department.
It does suck that toyota Australia let's the whole brand down, iv had 2 79s now and nothing but issues not with the vehicles but with toyota themselves.. they unfortunately have a "I'm better than everyone else" mentality.
I only deal with Just autos when it comes to repairs or servicing that I can't do myself.
My concern is the fte was 4.2L the vdj went to 4.5L and the new v6 is 3.3L with more power. The only way to do that is to put the engine under more stress. I’ll admit to being a Toyota man but personally think this engine needs more time than most to prove itself.
You might be right, none of us really know. Time will tell.
Great comments cam and tiff.
Like I said on last week's vid, you have done your research, you made a decision and are standing by it. Well done.
Anybody that says they don't carry oil with them is either lying or running the risk of being caught out.
Safe travels guys😊😊
Cheers Gary, appreciate the comment mate! 👍
Yeah I watch John and I was scratching my head
I was laughing cause he is a clown
I had a Colorado that burned oil from new but there is worse issues to have bar the cost of buying more oil all the mechanics I spoke to to said it wasn’t a issue with wear and tear
I had the same problem with my RG 2015 Colorado. I told the Holden Service Centre.
It was checked by them again after 3000 kms. It did use oil and as a result the oil grade was changed
From 5w30 to 5w40. The oil filler cap was changed to read 5w40 and also an updated sticker in the handbook.
I guess Holden new of this problem because of the manufactured oil filler cap with the upgraded oil grade.
This did fix the problem.
Regards Peter.
Cam, its your's and Tifs hard earned money. As you already know, we would of bought the 300 after the Y62. Every 4x4 has its pros and cons, fact!!
Now can we all get over this 300 Toyota oil burner sh#t and enjoy Wild Touring fishing/4wd video's.
Loved your video. I had seen the other video and feel like it is a bit like the tall Poppy syndrome. Have to knock down the new, you beaut technology because it makes him feel better. I really like your balanced approach.
Cheers Stuart!
Hi Cam some manufacturers of prinemovers have desined theur m9tors to cinsume oil to prolong servuce intervaks from 10000 kms out to 100000 just by topping up oil
Hey mate, just got my lc300 gxl and I love it. It’s a best your going to love it. Don’t listen to the haters
Cheers mate, that's what I hear from 99% of other real owners too!
good stuff
Hey to be fair Y62 have their issues . I just got mine back after 8 weeks with a fresh paint job. Late last year i couldn't take it 4wding for 6 weeks due to the 4wd motor actuator. Clutch fan hub is another common issue that people have had recently.
All cars will have issues and most certainly newly released models . Hell i thought the patrol was a pretty bulletproof vehicle when i bought but in the almost 3 years i've owned it, its spent maybe 6 months getting fixed under warranty (mostly getting painted twice lol)
Thats no good mate. But totally agree, they all have their issues.
For what its worth, my pre DPF 5sp 4JJ1 Dmax is regarded as being one of the tougher/simpler cars out there. And it has been generally very good, but it is still the only car I've ever had to put on a tilt tray to get home.
If the low oil warning light is coming on then I would say that’s a problem. That’s why it’s called a low oil WARNING light. According to reporting which includes Toyota Australia the oil warning light comes on after the engine has used 1.7 to 2 litres of oil. That’s a lot between services.
People are quick to forget that the VDJ had similar oil burning issues when they were first released. Took them a couple of years to update the piston/rings to stop it. It will be the same with the 300. But i wouldnt be relying too much on owners experiences, purchaser bias is a very real thing and people will often gloss over things because they have spent so much money on the vehicle. And owners are reporting 1.5L of oil consumption per 1000km, which is higher then VW used to use back when they had the oil consumption problems with the 1.8-2.0L TFSI motors (which ended up in a class action and brought in the rebuilt protocols which most manufacturers use today) And for further reference, Cummins rebuild criteria is 1L/1000km of oil consumption, or 28 inches of blowby under idle. And they have a 45L Sump for the X15 motors.
I can't tell you where. But I'm in Australia. I know a toyota machenic who told me first hand that he had to drain 2 brand new landcruiser 300 oil straight off the truck. Water was in the engine and luckily, they did a pre delivery inspection before the owner got their hands on it. I was about to trade my 200 in for the 300. Now knowing I'll keep my 200. I mean that is bonkers, brand new straight of the truck with 10km on them. Had to have its oil drained. Owners are local farmers' wives, so I'm guessing those cars will always be service by local toyota. Owner will never know that about the issues. Just hope that it dont throw codes. Knew the about this issues since the 300 first came out. I was told by my mate not to tell anyone.