One Biggest Plot Hole That 90s Show You Missed
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- One Biggest Plot Hole That 90s Show You Missed, we review and breakdown the ending of that 90s show and 70s show comparison, plus leia age is wrong
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The biggest question I have is, where’s Betsy Kelso? They don’t even bring up the fact that Michael’s oldest daughter exists. They just swept her under the rug like they did Donna’s little sister.
Betsy or Brook. The half baked justification as to why Jacker & Fez split is just lazy writing and I wonder who came up with that decision because they obviously didn't know the series (or doesn't care). The industry is getting cheap & lazy for the sake of greed, more worried about PR by having to cater to all that PC/social nonsense instead of focusing on creating a good quality product... if it wasn't for them relying on the nostalgia that this spinoff is based on (like most low quality projects these days) it would be a repeat of That 80's Show.
I heard Donna met up with her little sister when she got to prison.
@@ctufan24 It's not lazy writing. Lazy writing is having them together at all and they were just correcting that awful relationship fans hated
IKR THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING TODAY
She's like the "CHUCK" from Happy days !!
Gwen is excellent, Leia has a lot of potential & Kelso has potential. What I liked was that they kept the formatting of the original (love the into & the little clips in between scenes) & the old cast is obviously fantastic. I agree that the other kids aren’t exactly hitting, but I’m going to give it a chance. I think they’ll grow into the roles. Also agree that they didn’t capture the 90s as good as they could have. Ozzy being gay could have been really cool with how secretive he would have needed to be in the 90s. Missed a huge chance there for not just comedic scenes, but sentimental ones too. Could have had it to where he only told Leia and done a lot with only one of them knowing.
Yes, 1995 was not exactly a time when "out and proud" was widely accepted in heartland America.
If that were the case they'd have to recast the Ozzie actor
It would have made so much more sense to set this in '97 or '98 with the kids having been 15 then, thus being born in '82 or '83. Or they could have had the kids be 13 or 14 in 1995 instead of 15 & 16, thus also being born in '82 or '83. That would have given the two couples more of a reasonable timeline to procreate.
They couldn’t do that because they plan to run the show for atleast 5 seasons
@@levlev25 Good point that's right, than the show would eventually after 3 seasons enter into the 2000's. Thus calling it That 90's Show would make no sense.
Not only does it give them more potential seasons, but by the last '90s the feel of the decade started to wane. I like the feel of 1995 better, personally. That '70s show did nothing but mess with the time line and was full of plot holes, anyway.
@@maddie8415 Little did the writers know that fans would be so intently invested in the lives of the characters, and ponder the holes.
Some of the things I do on they can't do with 13
There's a hole in the story story about Jackie. In season 1 of That 70's Show, Jackie was younger than all of the other friends. She was only like a freshman or a 10th grader. And even in the flashbacks memories they show Jackie as a littler girl than Michael when she says that she loved him. But at the end of the season they were taking a class pictures together and they had presumably all finished high school together, however Jackie would have been one or two years younger according to the first season.
Jackie according to the show wiki was born September 24th of 61 and is a year and a half younger than everyone else. With that birthdate I believe she'd be 2 years behind Donna and Eric in school because you have to be 5, I think, before the school year begins and she'd have missed the cutoff.
She was a year behind the others. They didn't show her graduate but in one scene she had a graduation cap on.
@@brendaselles1519 I saw that yesterday. They went on a camping trip the night before graduation, woke up late, ran to Kelso's van, and it wasnt there. Fez and Laurie were also missing with the van, so Jackie, Michael, Eric, Donna, and Hyde realized Fez and Laurie took the van. Cut away to Kitty, Red, and Bob in their living room saying, "I can't believe they missed their own graduation". The missing 5 show up, saying they had to get a ride home in a pig truck. Later, the 5 are cleaned up, and in the driveway ready to get into the car, dressed in graduation attire.Jackie does not have on a cap and gown, but they put a cap on Jackie's head for a photo Kitty is taking. (Just then Fez and Laurie run up in their same clothes from camping, announcing they got married so Fez could stay in the country. That's when Red has his heart attack). The hole, then is how does Jackie share an apartment with Fez and be looking for work like the rest of them are in subsequent episodes if she's still in high school? I admit I'm watching network reruns on two different timeslots/plot timelines, so it gets hard to fill it in. ( I don't remember Hyde at homecoming to impress a cheerleader) Anybody have a fill-in?
@@coolcrudude4833 I saw the episode today. You're right. The guys went back to high school to support Jackie and the cheerleader fight. They were graduated and she was not.🙂
I thought the next season she was still in high school like they dropped a line that she had to go to cheer practice.
I liked it a lot more than I thought I would. Binged it in less than 24 hours. The kids aren't annoying at all and the show isn't a woke-fest as many Netflix shows can be. In fact, there is an authentic old-fashioned feel to it. The writing and the comedy are not yet up there with That '70s show, but I would love to see 2-3 seasons more at least and see if things can go from solid to great.
I know that the show needs to stand on its own, but I really wish the original cast would make in more frequent appearances. Miss that cast so much!
The OG cast is around just enough. It really won't come full circle until Season 3, assuming that Danny Masterson does NOT get convicted. After a mistrial ending a month ago, a retrial is slated for this July. A second mistrial or a verdict other than guilty should serve to pave the way for the return of Hyde.
@@GrizrazRex I'm not too sure if Netfilx going to rehire Danny Masterson back even if he's found not guilty. A lot of people are going to be outraged if he returns to That's 90s Show too soon, especially when Scientology are known to cover up their crimes.
A. No the kids aren’t annoying, though some are a bit too on the nose when it comes to portraying their archetypes/stereotypes. Cheap jokes are fine but get old.
I wouldn’t call it “woke” but there are definitely a few moments. There are too many ideas which we would call or label the 90s. What our minds think of/about Not what it was. For instance the term Riot Girl wasn’t a thing (at least not very widespread) at the time. Hippies didn’t call themselves hippies.
Lastly. I wonder how much the original cast cost$ , think of those contracts.
Same here I thought I wouldn’t like it but i really want a season 2
I totally agree. I also binged it. Found it so good even with its flaws. The kids were sweet and naive like we were back in the 90s. Show could've been a snarky, edgy woke-fest for sure. I was surprised it looked and felt so much like the old show.
Nobody noticed that Eric turned 17 at the begining of the That '70s Show and 18 at the begining of the 6th season? Age wasn't always something the writers cared about.
fr eric stayed 17 for like 4 or 5 christmas'
I doubt that Donna would have gotten pregnant so soon after Eric came home in the series finale. They would have needed more time to rebuild their relationship. Also we're led to believe that Jackie after New Years Day 1980 decided against being in a relationship with Fez and went back with Kelso and then got pregnant with his son around the same time Donna got pregnant? Hmm it's rather a stretch, not implausible but the timeline for this is definitely off.
They conceived that night he returned and she was born a month and a half early. It fits. They hadn't been together for a year and otherwise should have been married.
@@mistypedhi Hmm I guess so. It's just seems unlike Donna to get pregnant before getting a career. She was always an independent minded feminist type. To have unprotected sex with Eric right after he returned home seems so out of character for her. But it's just show. They had to have the next generation for this series.The problem really lies in the messed up timeline of That 70's Show and the problematic last season.
@@Alexs.2599 ehh, Donna and Eric have that once in a lifetime bond. I'm sure they did it when Eric returned. Seems like Eric and Donna to do that and then go through hijinks when they find out they're pregnant. Same thing for Jackie and Kelso too.
@@OscarASevilla hmm I guess so. It's just seems it would be a little too soon but I guess that's what it is. Interesting Mila Kunis has also said that is doesn't make sense that Jackie would go back with Kelso.
@@Alexs.2599 yea, all in all, even if trying to make it make sense, it's still dicey as fuck and depends on a lot of coincidences lol. But, it is what it is. I'll look past it, like I did with Donna's little sister, who doesn't exist anymore apparently lmfao
The nostalgia factor plays a big role here, so if you're watching as a fan of the original That 70's show you can add plus one star for that nostalgia factor. Otherwise the show, doesn't utilize enough of the 90's besides some stereotypical references which are thrown here and there. Honestly, it could be set in any era, but it just happens to be called The 90's show. The old familiar of reoccurring characters and especially being set in what looks like the original house of the Foreman's from the original including the living room, the kitchen, basement and the front yard is mind blowing. I find myself just wondering how were they able to preserve so much of the original set pieces or they just paid great attention to details. Unfortunately that's where the awe ends, since the dialogs, screenplay, storylines and jokes are really bland with few exceptions. As I said at the beginning, the nostalgia factor holds this together, but it doesn't get out of the shadow of the original. Potential is there though.
The first episode of That 90’s Show has a nostalgic intro from both Kitty and Red before Eric knocks at their front door. It appears as though he’s been away for quite some time and now works at a university as an adjunct professor teaching a “Religion of Star Wars” course. After his hugs and hellos, Donna walks in with a bunch of their belongings and gives a funny jab at Eric for essentially not helping unload the car, which Eric doesn’t seem to pay much attention to. It’s in this moment you may start to think this show has a chance of being good.
You meet the main character Leia, who is the daughter of Eric and Donna. She appears to have the facial features of Donna and the skinny, alien-like bone structure of her father Eric. It’s also hilarious to know Eric managed to talk Donna into naming their first child after a Star Wars character. Speaking of Star Wars, Eric still hasn’t given up his love for it. Aside from teaching Star Wars at a university, he also attempts to use the wisdom of those movies to influence his daughter throughout her entire life, which she obviously can’t stand.
Leia finds herself early in the episode walking around outside of her grandparent’s home before hearing the neighbor girl across the street, Gwen Runck. Gwen is listening to music and screaming the lyrics before turning to the window and seeing Leia standing there, looking at her. They have a short interaction that has you wondering if these two are going to be romantic lovers or best friends throughout the series. After a while, I’m to believe they’re just going to be friends, but I’ll let you decide for yourself.
The majority of the episode has Leia interacting with different kids from the area, only to find out that some of them have relations to characters from That 70’s Show. I enjoyed every interaction from the new and past characters in this episode and appreciated how all of the new kids on the show resemble those legendary characters in some way. I was a bit confused when seeing Nate, though. He gave off Kelso vibes, but you later find out something important that I won’t spoil. What I’m referencing has me to believe that there are many similarities with the characters, but this show also attempts to be its own thing.
Leia enjoys spending time with everyone and even starts to catch feelings for another. This has her wanting to stay in Point Place for the summer, rather than just for a day or two. Eric and Donna allow for her to stay with Kitty and Red and say their goodbyes at the end of the episode. You also get a little idea of what the kids are capable of, as they manage to throw a keg party and even find the old Candyland marijuana “stash” that was hidden away at the end of That 70’s Show.
Overall, the episode is entertaining and gives off the proper amount of nostalgia that’ll have you wanting more. The only gripe that I have with the pilot episode of That 90’s Show is how Donna feels like such a secondary character. From the beginning where Eric ignores her as she walks in with all the suit cases, to her lack of input into her daughter’s life over X amount of time, to even how she says goodbye to Leia at the end of the episode. I can’t tell if she’s scripted to be like that, or if Laura Prepon just doesn’t want to be there.
Being as I saw her in a director slot, I would think she'd want to be there.
I think that Laura Prepon is one of the prettiest girls to ever be on tv. Her stunningly beautiful red hair, long and strong 5 foot/10 inch frame, a sometimes very sharp New Jersey twang to her voice, to go with a face that only gets brighter and brighter the more she smiles and laughs.
A brave move to reboot a classic show, but I think it’s working out well. As the first few episodes ticked by, the new teen actors characters have started to work some magic in their parts which happened so effortlessly in the original That 70s Show. The glue held in the pilot of That 90s Show thanks to the appearances of most of the original cast and of course Kitty and Red. The ever suffering emphatic Red and the loving, mothering Kitty gel perfectly with the new teen group too. A pity Danny Masterton’s character Steven Hyde (who reminded me of Jeff Lynne from ELO) is not a part of the sequel only for obvious reasons. Maybe they could have written in say Hyde’s daughter or son into the group, but I think this show can only get better and become as successful as the original series - so I do hope the producers give it a chance to allow future seasons to blossom into a classic set.
90's is not the only continuation show happening; just one of the newest. Season 2 of HIMYF has already brought Barney back in E1, and there's reportage of Ted and Tracy appearances to come. Robin re-appeared at the end of S1 of HIMYF, which inhabits the same universe, but a different bar than MacLaren's. The Captain and Becky appeared in multiple S1 episodes, too.
Compare and contrast with Velma, and you can see that beloved IPs need to be treated with respect, and given enough stand-alone qualities, in order to succeed with both the original audience, and a new audience. Velma is proving to be an object lesson in what NOT to do.
I honestly thought it would have been funny to have Hyde's kid on the group... but like, he never met him. So it's kind of reinforcing that circle. I dont know, maybe Hyde would be in jail or something and a plot device is that the kid has half siblings all over town. Then there was the episode with the siblings and the examination of their relationshios with their fathers.
@@GrizrazRex HIMYF is much better than this trash.
I just wanted to point out, Michael Celso had a daughter with another girl in that 70s show. Where is she?
Yes too much plot holes man
@@muhammadwaqarmasood5862 probably not so much of a plot hole as they just didn’t have enough time in 10 episodes to pop her up season 2 can have her
With Donna's little sister .
@@mssedmebich1621 They both took a trip to California, met Zach Morris and both probably fucking killed themselves. If you’ve ever watched any of the Zach Morris is Trash videos, you’ll understand what I mean.
I was confused too! It doesn't make sense. For Jay to be 16 Jackie would ha ve had to gotten pregnant with him in 1979 unless she also had him early. Even then, Kelso had moved to Chicago in the previous season right? So some time during 1978ish or early 1979 max. If they are all suppose to be 16ish in the 90's Jackie and Donna would have had to be pregnant right after the show ended if not before. Jackie at least dated Fez long enough for them to go on a couples trip together. (My guess a few months) that would mean Fez has a high chance of being Jay's Dad. I also don't see Donna getting pregnant then immediately marrying Eric.
That '70s Show was infamous for plot holes...like these never ending years where they Christmas multiple times in the "same year," Donna's sister who appeared for an episode...the actors aging way faster than their characters were supposed to. I certainly noticed these things in That '90s Show, but I think that they had to mess with the time line for the sake of the show (like usual). Leia's birthday is better celebrated before the very end of summer, and making Eric and Donna slightly older works better since the actors are hard to pass for their mid 30s. These inconsistencies were the only way to set the show as early as the mid-90s, and honestly, the feel for the decade began to wane by the end of it. I also think that they are planning to go for more seasons and don't want to make the "forever in the same year" mistake again.
Most sitcoms are filled with plot holes.
Other than Mila, they were all older than the characters they were playing anyway. By 2006, Topher and Ashton were in their late 20s. Even Red and Kitty’s ages never quite fit. They would both have been very old parents by the time Laurie and Eric were born. Red and Kitty met during WW2 but Laurie wouldn’t have been born until about 1960, 15 years after WW2 ended. Are we really supposed to believe that in an age of no condoms or birth control that they really would have been childless for that long? And it’s assumed that Red and Kitty were almost the same age but everyone could clearly see Kitty was much younger because in fact she is.
Maybe there are some unaired episodes of that 70s show we don’t know about? We don’t know for real.
I had a theory that Leia wasn’t actually Eric and Donna’s daughter. She’s actually Lori’s daughter and Eric and Donna decided to raise her after Laurie abandon her or died.
I said this after hearing that Leia was 15. Donna wasn't with Eric then. And also Jay is older than her but Kelso wasn't with Jackie in 1979.
Don’t bring back a show that was set during the time when everyone was less sensitive, the whole show feels so PC and it won’t be able to have the same magic the original show has.
Eric and Donna were around 20 years of age, in the original show's conclusion, in which Eric and Donna kissed. Donna must have gotten preggers right thereafter. The Kelso kid is a more difficult explanation. Perhaps That 90s Show should have started a year later (1996), to avoid these inconsistencies.
In reality, they basically just assumed nobody would nitpick about something like that. The start date of the show was basically pulled from thin air. It could have been 1994 or 1996. 1995 was probably picked because it gives them 5 years to have the show end at midnight on Jan 1, 2000 just as the 70s show ended on Jan 1, 1980. 1995 was the year Windows 95 was launched as well, basically making the internet readily available to anyone who wanted it then.
I think youtube should ban text to speech channels.
This seems to be an easy fix, I believe that it has not been said on screen that it is 1995. It would be an easy fix to place it in 1997, 20 years after the beginning of That 70's Show.
1976 was the beginning of the show. You can always tell what year it was in each episode because the date on the license plate in the intro tells you. I do remember 1976 being the oldest plate displayed on the show.
I like the idea that Eric got Donna pregnant the night he came home from Africa. Also fez said Jackie called Kelso and left him in Jamaica she could've found out that she was pregnant while she was in Jamaica and assumed it was Kelso's and thats why she called him
bro shes keeps saying Leah its Leia
I don’t nit pick, I am just grateful and enjoying this 90s show so much ❤
If Donna got pregnant on new years night/morning with Eric and had her daughter a month early.. it works out.
The day That 90's show begins, July 3rd 1995, was Red's actor Kurtwood Smith's 52nd birthday.
It feels like a cut and paste of the original show. It has the same canned laughter. All the same characters, just with new names. Barely any 90s references other than the clothes.
When That 70's Show came out, it followed the sitcom format of the day. I wish this new show would have done the same. Followed the sitcom formats of today and made the characters relatable to kids that grew up in the 90s. Rather than just rehashing the formula from 20 years ago. I remember my mom watching That 70's Show with me and loving it, because it reminded her of her youth. But watching this doesn't bring back any memories for me. Well, except of the original show.
after doing extensive research I found that the 1995 1996 Chicago School District start date was 08/08/95, that would suggest Donna to be empregnated realativly as soon as Eric arrived home. That still leaves 1 month of gray area, but it is likely that Donnas water broke prematurely ( yes 1 mont is a large stretch but it is plausible) emplying that Leia being born late July early ( 1st week of August) August.
“His mother’s brain” may mean Brooke and not Jackie.
And jay and leia never meet during Eric and Donna’s visit all these past years to the Formans home.
Makes no sense.
There's the Star Wars twist - Randy Pearson says to Leah: "I Am your father!"
True, the writers should have definitely paid more attention to details about the ages and timelines. They should know by now that we 70’s Show fans are serious about this. Don’t just put out anything and think it’s good enough maybe we won’t notice. I do believe the show has potential overall though. The actors should binge watch That 70’s Show and develop their characters.
I think it’s great that those gaps exist. Somebody could realize a gap issue during a 360, then get all paranoid that So&So isn’t the dad, and they have to call Maury (Povich)! They could have all kinds of fun with it! 😁😊
Basically, Leia isn't Eric's kid. They celebrate her birthday in July and Eric didn't get back from Africa hunting Dec 31 1979, until she was a 2 month old pre-me she isn't Eric's. And why not even a mention of kelso's daughter?
That 70 show was stuck in a time warp. 8 seasons took place over approximately 3 years and 3 months. I think they had 4 or 5 Valentine's Day episodes that took place in 1978.
yeah we need to know where Betsy is and they can't dodge Hyde because of the PC stuff, let's bring him back dammit
Or at least explain what happened to Hyde.
Just say he died, that would eliminate the chance he would ever appear on the show.
Omg how did you know i missed this…!?😮
I have no idea why they messed up these things so badly. It's not like they didn't have time to get it right
The timeline was a very big plot hole in the series.
This isnt to mention Betsy. There was no mention of Betsy in the show or even Hyde. I get Danny Masterson got into some legal trouble but they could have at least mentioned his name in the show
Jay actually doesn't need to be 16+ to drive. You only need to be 15 to drive in Wisconsin, which is even pointed out by the show when Leia is given a car for her 15th birthday. But this still doesn't entirely make sense. Unless Jackie was actually somehow pregnant at the end of that 70's show and didn't even know. But that wouldn't work with the timeline either unless Jackie cheated on Fez.
Fez mentions in that 90s show that he caught her talking to michael so that could make sense
Some states you can get your driver's permit at 14 and license at 15
Okay here's one, in season 1 of that 70s show, they went to see star wars, which takes place in 1977, and after that, I counted the Christmas episodes and made me think how many Christmas are there between 1977-1979, cause there was more then 4.
I don't know why people keep saying Eric was still at space camp during Leia's birthday. He wasn't able to make the trip because he is recovering from an injury that happened at Space Camp, not still at Space Camp.
What If at the end of that 70's show Donna was pregnant with Leia as Eric was coming back from Africa for New years as the clock hits midnight on the new resolution of 1980?
First off I will say that I am the biggest 70s show fan probably ever! I still fall asleep to it every night and know all the lines… I’ve watched each episode at least 100 times so I was really excited, however, I wasn’t expecting much… It’s a 50-50 for me… Half of it feels very corny and forced, and un organic, sort of reminding me of a nickelodeon kids show… And the other half of me appreciates some of the moments they did do a good job with, and the creative writers and actors all came together for a couple of laughs… The main character, Leah is great and her black friend with the short curly hair is pretty funny but the rest again reminds me of a kids TV show… I still love Red and Kitty though! Fes and Chong are great too! The gay boy, though… Bad… It’s way too forced and of course we all knew they were going to do something like that since every show has to now… But it’s not good… Actually, it’s pretty cringy..I hope they are able to find some chemistry with each other and get everything flowing. Otherwise it’s just another OK show….
Second season will be much better
Agree with all of this.
i think they did the best that the could starting in 95 means the kids old enough to relate to for a broad span of audience while leaving enough buffer room for a future seasons to keep the time line a little better than the original series that spanned 8 seasons in less than 3 years
Jackie couldn’t be the mom of the Kelso kid, because she was with Fez.
The original show was 8 seasons that spanned 3 years. You can't take the timeline of these shows seriously. Also, I want to see Casey Kelso brought back. Luke Wilson was so funny in that role.
When you add Eric's age mistake to the mix I begin to suspect the original intent was for the show to be set in 97-98 and the showrunners/studio made a last minute decision to roll it back to 95 to give the series more room to space out episodes before hitting 2000. Jay having his license all but clenches it.
Yeah but weren’t there some really long years in that 70’s show?
@@themonopolyguy4365 sure was, they shouldve known better
I do remember showrunners saying if they would have known that That 70's show would have been a hit they would not have started the show so late in the 70's because they ended up having multiple seasons be the same year.
ok so the timeline doesn’t match up, does it matter? basically i’m watching it just to get the fun i had from that 70s show, but from the point of view from when i was born, the 90s. the nostalgia factor is what’s interesting, nit picking about the timeline is lame, this is not one of the shows that i need continuity perfection. just seeing the old characters again was sweet too.
If you pay attention, they actually never explicitly said Jackie was Jay's mother. With that said, it seems plausible, Kelso could have knocked another girl up off screen. We already know he fathered Betsy earlier. He could have had a few out-of-wedlock kids before marrying Jackie.
I couldn’t watch this video seeing that they can’t pronounce Leias name even though it’s easy asf lol and they called Eric a recurring character in that 70’s show 😂😂😂
The timeline being off is the least of this show's problems
I think Leia has a sibling that we don't know about
I like that they kept The Circle a part of the show. The Circle is the funniest part of the original show. All the way from the car that runs on water to the new Donkey Kong scene. But these no mention of Betsy Kelso, Midge, Jackie's mom and of course Hyde. I understand that Danny Masterson is in trouble but would it to at least mentioned what happened to him.
I don't spend time to analyze fantasy stuff. You analyze real life. There is a profit in that.
Like hot dogs, not worrying about how the leftover garbage meat pieces ended up looking and tasting so good, I just enjoy shows for what they are. 😄
Umm hate to break it to you but leia age and everything is spot on really and here's why yes leia forman july 19 1980 which means she would been conceived in October 23 - 31 1979 but of course Eric went to Africa but if you guys did your research season 7 and 8 of that 70's show was both based in 1979 so thats why plot hole solved 😊👍
And i thought Dale Gribble had issues with conspiracy theories.
I feel like like even Danny isn't in this franchise anymore he should at least be mentioned for the series sake.
I grew up in the 70s. Although I was in elementary school. So with that being said my daughter was born in 1989 and I was 20 years old. People didn’t admit to being gay, even if they were gay, especially guys. This just one of many incorrect things regarding this show. This is a show like so many today trying to be “politically correct” or “socially correct” so we got to add a gay guy and we got to add someone from every race. That 70s show was good because you could actually see them being friends. My group of friends were half white and the other half black but trust me that was not the norm in the 90s. Every one would see us and not what to think. You’re friends because you’ve got the same taste in music or you are all athletes etc. This cast just doesn’t look like they would ever hang out together. Call me old or racist or whatever I don’t really care but before you do you might look at my kids before you do. I’ve seen other comments and reactions from other people and they are saying the same thing without saying it.
Wouldn't Kelso's kid be the kid he had with brooke, the librarian? Not Jackie?
Why do timelines have to add up? It’s a sitcom?
To answer all your questions: who cares let’s just enjoy or not enjoy the show can we
Agree👍👍!!
easy they had leia in 1980 you know 1980 to 95 is 15 leia is 15 so it means they had her not long after that 70s show ended means she was born the summer of 1980 if shes just turning 15 in the show
Sum it up: scenery: yes. Characters: no.
This show feels very…Disney in the That 70s show house. It has some cringey scenes and I am not a fan of the main character Leia. Her character seems like they won’t have any development throughout the seasons.
The characters are cool on their own but together I would say they do not have great chemistry.
In the first episode Jackie’s lines seemed forced but still appreciated the nostalgia. Red still has his charming personality and kitty has not aged.
It seems like the writers were working on Jay’s character development for one scene then decided to stop and plummet his character.
The references to popular shows in the 90s were cute at first but I’m not a fan of that (friends, karate kid)
Why does it seem like Nate and Leia have more chemistry on the 10th episode than any other character? Including friendships and Jay and Leia’s relationship.
I think my expectations of this show was too high but I do not think I would be able to view Hyde the same if I were to rewatch it :(
Tv shows have a long history of time issues, for example in the show Tabatha her brother Adam is suddenly older though in Bewitched he's younger. Characters also grow up too fast when they are young, Alexander in Star Trek TNG for example but then seem to take a decade to get through high school like in Happy Days. Heck even the new Night Court has 32-year-old Melissa Rauch playing Harry's daughter who would have have been at most 30 if she was born immediately after the previous series ended in 1992. And don't get me started about Doctor Who, lol. As they say "relax, it's just a tv show"... :D
My theory is that Jackie, Donna, Eric, and Michael must’ve got really drunk the last episode and got pregnant. That’s the only explanation I can come up with. 😂
Yeah I was confused on that one too but still a pretty decent first season.Hopefully more to come
You are putting way too much thought into this! It is TV it is not real! I know the shocks you but everything on TV is not real! Just sit back watch the show and quit being so critical!
It would’ve been better if they just did it about other people or just have it about the og cast without Hyde.
Yeah, even if Donna age was 19 at the end of that 90s show, if Leia was born in 1980, then she would have probably been conceived in 1979, when Eric was in Africa, so does that mean randy is he true father
Who the hell is Leah because that’s not her name
Have you seen The 70s show basement. There were some clear unreliable narrators for what happened in the 1970s.
Thank you for pointing these out. I thought I was the only one that noticed them.
Right off the bat you got it wrong it's 15 and a half it is July in the first episode so there is time for her cuz she was fourteen and that episode she was just going to turn 15 later on that come on people use your brains
They should also knw Eric age in that 70s show was not moving for 4 to 5 years
Kelso was a year older than the rest of the group. Said it in the permanent record halloween episode
I’ve been saying this since I binged watched the whole series, what if Leia is Randy’s kid?!
And Jay is Fez kid?
Biggest question I have is, why did they make this show? It's horrible
I like the characters personalities on that 90s show but I don't see it getting another season. The acting is kinda awkward and the chemistry just isn't there.
I think you 4got that Kelso had a baby with Brook "Shannon Elizabeth" who definitely wasn't Jackie💯... idk maybe him and Jackie had a baby but.... yeahh... um hummm.. idk
You know what, it's a sitcom not a documentary. If you can't enjoy the show without trying to pick it apart you need professional help for your OCD.
She basically would have been a New Year’s Eve baby born a month early
They also forget to mention that kelso has an older daughter
Eric my mannn, the power of pum pum are just too strong. Dont nick pick too much. Just watch the story for the sake of the story not for the sake of finding plot hole. Go make your own series if you are better.
Okay people think to hard about this
The biggest plothole is why you keep calling Leia, Leeah.
Does that 90s show ever mention Eric's sister?
People need to learn some stuff about pregnancy's.... Let's say leia is born in August and Donna had leia early. 3 to 4 weeks early happens.... Time problem solved.... Jeeezzzs
I think Nikki is Fez and Laurie's daughter she acts like Laurie and Looks like Fez
The episodes feel rushed and a lot of the dialog feels like they took Disney Channel writers and let them use "bad words," but I still liked it enough to finish the series.
I was kind of hoping Red was gonna be a pushover with a closer relationship with his granddaughter so it was going to bug Eric and we'd get a moment where Eric tells Leia how things were when he was growing up and Red gives the old "I never did that. If anything I spoiled you." I know that's very specific, but it feels like a lost opportunity for a relatable moment. Especially considering most fans of the original are that age now.
This show is desperate to be liked, and misses the high water mark by trying to cram character arcs into 18 minutes. Should've either had 25 episodes or just 10 1hr episodes so they could actually develope the characters.
Kinda feels like it was produced to have clips on tiktok or RUclips shorts.
It's been an, okay, ride... It seems like they're trying too hard to convince us it's the 90's. Growing up at that time, we didnt make a point of referencing it so often, we just lived it. I came for the nostalgia, but it isn't enough to keep viewers tuned in. Once you realize the characters you came to love take the back seat, you have to try to love the new kids on centre stage. If you can't learn to love it as it's own show, you probably won't tune in again. Maybe it will just take a while to get off the ground, and get it's feet planted. I hope it does. It has potential.
It doesn't.
That 90's show feels like its meant for teenagers. That 70s show seemed like it was meant for more of a young adult crowd. I don't see it getting a season 2/
The 80s show feels like a dream lol
Just should have made her 16 then ,like Eric she get and can drive the car and the timeline is fixed. Now it’s Randy’s child
It's not a plothole, it's just a confusing timeline, similar to the original show.
It’s a show. For entertainment. Get a grip people. I love the 70s show, and so far I am loving the 90 show. But I don’t pick a part the dates in the specifics I just enjoy it. I think it’s cute
Good for you, some people like accurate continuity and not just turning off their brains so it rots like you do.
OKAY BUT WHERE IS KELSO’S DAUGHTER ?????
For this video to call Eric a recurring character from the original show sums up how credible it is. 🙄
Leia = Lia
Ah...someone else caught that Leia isnt Eric's.
Very realistic sounding A.I. voice but a bit un-natural at parts
But Jay is not Jackie's kid Kelso got a different girl pregnant I'm that 70s shop