Okay my original goal for wanting the 10-year anniversary pack cuz I wanted legendary USS Voyager for these Jetix to make a model I found finally when they did the mere universe versions of that I was able to get that out of the sea store so I don't need that out of legendary The only other versions that I care about is a t6 original Enterprise and TMG Enterprise and the defiance but just for those four ships the cost is too much
Bought the 10th bundle when it first dropped, and it has easily been the single best purchase I've made for STO. Amazing space barbie options, some nice consoles, account unlocked advanced phasers that are extremely good for leveling new toons, and for me personally, the legendary Kelvin Constitution, since when I first started playing, my number one goal was getting a Konnie, and I was having terrible luck with getting one before the 10th.
I bought it first day and consider it the best money I've ever spent on in-game content for any game in terms of overall happiness it brought me. The konnie, sovereign, Connie, and NX still get some good flying time from me.
"getting a Connie" is really 95% of the reason people bought this bundle. Looking at Stu's breakdown, for me, I'm glad I passed then and in 2024 the ships are just not usable for elite TFOs or Hard mode Patrol
I still fly the Legsov, because it's just ... gorgeous to screenshot and it's the Enterprise-E! I just upgraded it to X2 and it will certainly stay on my spacebarbie character. :)
I personally think it's still a good purchase. With all the consoles, traits, and space barbie potential, it's a great single purchase for anyone who is a Trek fan.
I've saved up for the 10th Anniversary bundle maybe 3 or 4 times, and each time, something more enticing comes out (12th, Mudd's Disco, Heritage). Now that I have all these other ships, I find that I'd never use a single ship, weapon, console, or trait from the 10th.
Out of those 10 ships, I'm pretty sure that I still fly 8 of them. The only ones I've switched out were the defiant and the galaxy. So I'd say they are still pretty useful.
I became a lifetime sub during the Beta test so when the game switched from subscription to free to play, I started getting an allowance. A few years ago I decided to stop spending my ZEN and started saving it for the 10th Anniversary. I'm finally getting close to being able to afford it.
So I returned to the game back in August after a 6 year hiatus. I main a Jem'Hadar tac captain, I bought all the packs I could honestly for trait hunting and use for my preferred ships. The 10th had a few traits I was having trouble finding on other ships and had the added bonus of one of the best phaser weapons in game unlocked as well.
Just having a reclaimable t6 connie was enough for me, stats notwithstanding. Granted its prolly better to get the mudd bundle version but the 10th was the first one to provide a reclaimable t6 connie so i dont regret my purchase day 1, hehe.
Same here, I only had the free T2 version and a purchashed T2/T3(?) TOS version. The Legendary connie is, at the very least, a beautiful hero ship to collect but to also be useful in the game.
I’d agree with you on both counts. I would add that one of the additional pluses of the Leg Connie is its Legendary trait, The Best Diplomat. It’s a strong beam trait, maybe better now in the Isomag state of the game.
From a ship collection and customization standpoint it is an amazing bundle. Unlocking all or most of the space barbie options to that specific ship is an amazing feature of the legendary ships. I do hate how some of the ships like the verity and the legendary intrepid have been overshadowed by their terran versions in the 12th and 13th anniversary bundles, I wish these ships could be retroactively improved as new bundles release, even if it's just legendary ships. That being said, some of the ships in the bundle I and other players never flew a t6 version of, let alone a legendary version. I've been trying to get my hands on a decent version of the connie for some time, either the legendary version or the promo ship. Having unlocked it, it's okay minus the double miracle worker seating, but the good thing about STO are the builds, allowing you to turn crap into gold, or at least turn crap into useful crap, haha!
Nearly every character I have in the game flies a 10th anniversary ship or uses a trait or console for one, so overall value for me has been great. Much better value than most of the Mudd's bundles in my opinion.
is it still worth it? yes, yes it is, got it for the PS version of STO and it hasn't let me down yet and another thing is if they ever release the ships for separate purchase, by the time you were to buy them all separately you'd of spent more than 200 or 300 bucks even if you were to buy them spread out oh and Stu, the MW Connie Light Cruiser's Ominous Device, I've also taken to using my Disco Connie FDC (Flight Deck Carrier) with the Typhon's ship trait giving it one more hanger bay so yeah, it can hold up well
Still....waiting....for my 5/3 Terran dual-spec Sovereign FDC!!! I always wanted some Command in it for Suppression Barrage...I don't care if the 2nd seat is Intel or Temp....I just want my ship!!!
I'd go for a 5/3 CMD/MW. With the amount of random shenanigans the Enterprise has pulled out of its' backside I'd be down with it. Still with a Tac focus because she was made to kill Borg. *shrug*
Every said about the Legendary Sovereign is true but counterpoint, I want it. In seriousness, it's actually really disappointing that the ship designed in lore as a fast response ship gets 4/4 whereas the chonky boy (and in my opinion slightly ugly boy) Typhoon Temporal Battlecruiser gets 5/3.
I never got around to buying the bundle, but hearing frequent good opinions has made it tempting when ever it comes on sale. It's nice to have your contemporary and tempered perspective on the ships.
Cryptic game dev 1: Yo i just finished voyager did you know tom was a pilot and belanna was a female scotty. Cryptic game dev 2: really, so that means a new voyager should have a pilot / mw seats. Cryptic game dev 1: sure the fans will love it Cryptic lead dev: there is no way CBS will ever sign off on that. CBS: yes.... make it legendary, fans will pay us mor.....love it more Im almost 100% sure that convo actually happened
Honestly the Connie Flight Deck Carrier surprised me the most when I bought the bundle a few months ago, I played it to get the account traits unlocked, and ended up falling in love with the advanced Phasers and surprising strength of the ship, now I run a dedicated character with it on a tank build, love surviving the beating that the enemies through my way and throwing a barrage of those blue Phasers back in a move reminiscent of a TOS episode
I got the 10th mainly cause it had the Columbia (I love the NX so much) and honestly the hero ship bundle is a better name for this imo. They put a price on my nostalgia. Edit: side note, a lot of the 10th ani ships are fun to fly and full of flavor. The Lego defiant for one is stupid fun to fly when built around Inertial Supremacy. The TOS Conni is just pleasant nostalgia, and the disco Conni funny enough is an excellent way to capture the feel of the ST: Shattered Universe (Kodai you can't tell me they do not look like the imperial wraith).
You do also get one of if not *the* best phasers in the game with the ability to buy the disruptor version so that's good, plus the ships are still pretty good the sovereign one of my favourite.
Opted for the basic bundle myself, find the ships fun to use. L. Odyssey makes a decent Torpy torp boat, L. Sovereign makes a great broadside beam build (just use IsoMags and get it to T6-X2), and the L. Defiant? "She's got flaws, but she has TEETH!!"
To be honest I never use the TOS Connie from the bundle (except for the Jeffries skin that is) . After having the Temporal light cruiser there is just no comparison, night and day in favor of the Temporal Light Cruiser. I recently got the Cruiserweight Bundle and now that I have both bundles, I would have been happier to have the cruiserweight one over the 10th Bundle. I only use a few ships out of the 10th where I use all of the ships from the Cruiserweight one over several toons. and they never disappoint. The 10th dose have some cool ships to be sure but you have to ask yourself if you are actually going to use all those ships...if not, the Cruiserweight Bundle is better
I got it like 5/6 months ago…and yes, yes it is. Any bundle with legendary ships is worth acquiring. It’s got to the point where all I buy now is legendary versions. The flight deck carrier has been my main boat since I got this bundle, it’s almost a perfect ship.
I still think this is a great bundle to get as a new player {only been playing for about 4 yrs) best purchase I have made in the game. I;am not the type of player that just gets a ship for trait or console and never flies the ship not my play style with this bundle I fly everything and have to best equipment and traits in the game that I can afford on each ship. I would say to a player thinking about it if you have the means to buy it pick it up. I'am not a DPS player just a player who is a trek fan and enjoys playing the game.
I started playing STO about 4 years ago or so. I had planned on getting the 10th since about 6 months in but every year starting with the 12th anniversary bundle I always found them to be more enticing. I now own the 12th, 13th and 14th, furthermore I plan to get the 15th unless it's a dud. At this point now that I own almost 150 T6 ships, legendaries, 3 anniversary bundles, 4 or 5 muds bundles, quite a few lockbox ships. The tenth just feels outdated and not worth it imo, I only like about half the ships in it and there's better versions of practically all of them available elsewhere and I own most if not all of them. It's too late to get it now imo. If I still had only a few ships and didn't have much money to go around strictly looking at it from a numbers perspective maybe it'd make sense.
Pilot seating allow you to build stacks of SGF quickly a very underrated trait and why I like the Intrepid/Legendary Voyager but consoles now with uncon and vovin console has influenced the meta too much that an extra console slot doesn't cut it in comparison anymore.
Is this available for purchase yet? I know the C-Store cycles it around and I didn't see it last night when I checked. Thanks for the information. I am definitely gonna get this as I personally love the Kelvin Constitution look.
I don't believe it is currently. It'll probably be made available again at some point closer to the Anniversary event, before the release of the 15th Anniversary bundle.
When the game launched and the cap was level 50, I went ahead and bought several 'end game ships' for my various race/class and focused on the gear to kit them out. That was an investment I thought. Then when they raised the cap to 60 - they basically shat on those purchases. How much MORE money did they want? Didn't matter - I was done. It's like getting a degree then your work tells you it's worthless go back to school or go home. I went home.
Bought it for the sentimental value and space Barbie. But WHY is there no Excelsior included. I get why there’s no Ambassador class or variant. Ent-B has got to be the most hated Enterprise 😂
I've been thinking. You know what would be a good 15th anniversary pack? The 10th but updated to be better than the ships that came after. Could wrap in all of the new ships of those lines (Adamant for Defiant etc...) that have come out and retire the 10th going forward for the new 15th for another 5 years. Add in some Lobi, Keys or bound upgrades to get all of them to X1 or a third to X2 and people would jump on it. Provided they're a good upgrade of course based on current player's meta and what items are in the pipeline. Question is would it be separate from the old 10th pack or just an upgrade of the ships so those with it just got a massive boost? Probably the former with Legendary ships becoming Legacy. If it happens again for the 20th year (doubtful but possible though new engine/game would be better) Legacy could be Legacy Stardate xxxx to keep them all organized/separate.
It should be noted, that if you want to fly a Sovereign specifically, the Legendary Sovereign is about as good as it gets in the game. Especially if you have the Cold Hearted trait from the Breen event ship, pilot can activate it. The state of the Sovereign is pretty bad in STO, so take that for what it's worth. When I bought the pack 4 years ago, it was worth it to me. Now...well, the Lexington exists.
From a purely meta/DPS-focused perspective, absolutely. But if you’re wanting hero ships, averaging ~$19.50 cash equivalent for some of these that go for 4x-8x that for a single-character version (or ~2.5x more when we look at Mudd’s account-wide unlocks), that’s not bad for Space Barbie. And the stuff on these ships isn’t all *terrible*, just power-crept. Some of the “good but not meta” descriptors here just means you’re not going to be ineffective, you’re just not going to be optimal for today’s meta. To where I return to my original thought: I agree with you from a meta/DPS perspective, I disagree for Space Barbie that also has effective-but-not-optimal traits and gear.
What I want to achieve is a TV show Connie. I bought the 10th Anniv bundle. Now I'm hearing it isn't as good as that Mudd's Cruiserweight. I have the Legendary Temporal Flight Carrier and use it also. Any advice on achieving my ultimate goal?
The one ship i use the most from the bundle is the oddy. The rest i use for theme builds. The oddy is a strong debuff tank for me. I take it into elites with premade groups with a strong success rate. Korfez is still a toss up to the rng gods lol.
At this point they should just stop with the in-out-in nonsense with this bundle, retire it, and (at the exact same time) put the ships into smaller bundles similar to the Galaxy-X in the Mirror Universe Bundle. That way people who are holding off on buying it because of the high minimum price can buy the ships they want rather than withholding their cash.
Given what I'm hearing I'm starting to think that the ships were designed for intentional flaws on purpose either that or the development team that ever made these ships did not know the way the game actually worked and cause and effect but that is the original cryptic development team and they're probably not in business anymore I basically just want ships for aesthetics because I know the meta will always change with the game that's why I focus on a statics first
Question is, still worth spending this much when... half my abilities is not recognized & consoles don't trigger in tfo, on every built, on every character. Sadly, short answer is nope. I know, new team & stuff. But asking prices are more steep then triple A games & redundant issues are handle like a weekend school project. Sometime seeing where my money went to in pug elite Korfez would be appreciated.
Your title does suggest a question that suggests an answer having had it been asked. I just don't see this being worth it. 12th, 13th, 14th and Heritage and you are in the top 10% of the game without having anything from this bundle.
*NO! ITS NOT WORTH IT!* We know for a fact that these bundles won't include all the ship costum options with consoles and traits. That defeats the whole point of these legendary ship bundles! People need to stop wasting their money on this stuff!
@ i do. My oddy debuff tank is an eng too. As is my ent era toon that uses the nx class for dewsci builds. There was some eng abilities that dis dmg and debuffed cvs such as warp bubble collapse. You don’t have to be a tac to be a dps person. My builds may not be meta but they have their place in end game content.
Only if the bundle came with a rat's ass would I then have one to give. To me it's always been about the legendary Defiant but at this point... I just can't care. I'd never fly it. There are way better ships. "Space Barbie"... Oh yeah it's worth it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You can claim the Donnie fdc SEVERAL TIMES so you NEVER have to buy phasers!
Okay my original goal for wanting the 10-year anniversary pack cuz I wanted legendary USS Voyager for these Jetix to make a model I found finally when they did the mere universe versions of that I was able to get that out of the sea store so I don't need that out of legendary The only other versions that I care about is a t6 original Enterprise and TMG Enterprise and the defiance but just for those four ships the cost is too much
Bought the 10th bundle when it first dropped, and it has easily been the single best purchase I've made for STO. Amazing space barbie options, some nice consoles, account unlocked advanced phasers that are extremely good for leveling new toons, and for me personally, the legendary Kelvin Constitution, since when I first started playing, my number one goal was getting a Konnie, and I was having terrible luck with getting one before the 10th.
I definitely think i got my money’s worth.
I bought it first day and consider it the best money I've ever spent on in-game content for any game in terms of overall happiness it brought me. The konnie, sovereign, Connie, and NX still get some good flying time from me.
"getting a Connie" is really 95% of the reason people bought this bundle. Looking at Stu's breakdown, for me, I'm glad I passed then and in 2024 the ships are just not usable for elite TFOs or Hard mode Patrol
I still fly the Legsov, because it's just ... gorgeous to screenshot and it's the Enterprise-E! I just upgraded it to X2 and it will certainly stay on my spacebarbie character. :)
They need to break this bundle up and sell the ships individually.
I personally think it's still a good purchase. With all the consoles, traits, and space barbie potential, it's a great single purchase for anyone who is a Trek fan.
I've saved up for the 10th Anniversary bundle maybe 3 or 4 times, and each time, something more enticing comes out (12th, Mudd's Disco, Heritage). Now that I have all these other ships, I find that I'd never use a single ship, weapon, console, or trait from the 10th.
Out of those 10 ships, I'm pretty sure that I still fly 8 of them. The only ones I've switched out were the defiant and the galaxy.
So I'd say they are still pretty useful.
I became a lifetime sub during the Beta test so when the game switched from subscription to free to play, I started getting an allowance. A few years ago I decided to stop spending my ZEN and started saving it for the 10th Anniversary. I'm finally getting close to being able to afford it.
So I returned to the game back in August after a 6 year hiatus. I main a Jem'Hadar tac captain, I bought all the packs I could honestly for trait hunting and use for my preferred ships. The 10th had a few traits I was having trouble finding on other ships and had the added bonus of one of the best phaser weapons in game unlocked as well.
Just having a reclaimable t6 connie was enough for me, stats notwithstanding. Granted its prolly better to get the mudd bundle version but the 10th was the first one to provide a reclaimable t6 connie so i dont regret my purchase day 1, hehe.
Same here, I only had the free T2 version and a purchashed T2/T3(?) TOS version. The Legendary connie is, at the very least, a beautiful hero ship to collect but to also be useful in the game.
I’d agree with you on both counts. I would add that one of the additional pluses of the Leg Connie is its Legendary trait, The Best Diplomat. It’s a strong beam trait, maybe better now in the Isomag state of the game.
From a ship collection and customization standpoint it is an amazing bundle. Unlocking all or most of the space barbie options to that specific ship is an amazing feature of the legendary ships.
I do hate how some of the ships like the verity and the legendary intrepid have been overshadowed by their terran versions in the 12th and 13th anniversary bundles, I wish these ships could be retroactively improved as new bundles release, even if it's just legendary ships.
That being said, some of the ships in the bundle I and other players never flew a t6 version of, let alone a legendary version. I've been trying to get my hands on a decent version of the connie for some time, either the legendary version or the promo ship. Having unlocked it, it's okay minus the double miracle worker seating, but the good thing about STO are the builds, allowing you to turn crap into gold, or at least turn crap into useful crap, haha!
Nearly every character I have in the game flies a 10th anniversary ship or uses a trait or console for one, so overall value for me has been great. Much better value than most of the Mudd's bundles in my opinion.
is it still worth it? yes, yes it is, got it for the PS version of STO and it hasn't let me down yet and another thing is if they ever release the ships for separate purchase, by the time you were to buy them all separately you'd of spent more than 200 or 300 bucks even if you were to buy them spread out oh and Stu, the MW Connie Light Cruiser's Ominous Device, I've also taken to using my Disco Connie FDC (Flight Deck Carrier) with the Typhon's ship trait giving it one more hanger bay so yeah, it can hold up well
Still....waiting....for my 5/3 Terran dual-spec Sovereign FDC!!! I always wanted some Command in it for Suppression Barrage...I don't care if the 2nd seat is Intel or Temp....I just want my ship!!!
I would like that. I really want my oddy fdc. It can happen
I'd go for a 5/3 CMD/MW. With the amount of random shenanigans the Enterprise has pulled out of its' backside I'd be down with it. Still with a Tac focus because she was made to kill Borg. *shrug*
I still fly the Legendary Oddy as my go-to ship. There just aren't many better tanks in the game, and I don't have any of them.
Stu, thank you for sharing this overview, this helps a lot.
Every said about the Legendary Sovereign is true but counterpoint, I want it.
In seriousness, it's actually really disappointing that the ship designed in lore as a fast response ship gets 4/4 whereas the chonky boy (and in my opinion slightly ugly boy) Typhoon Temporal Battlecruiser gets 5/3.
I feel it is hands down the best anniversary bundle i have purchased and i have gotten all of them since 10
My best purchase in the game💯
same
Debatable if this or the 12th is a better bundle…..both are fantastic though and I regret neither.
True I have both
I never got around to buying the bundle, but hearing frequent good opinions has made it tempting when ever it comes on sale. It's nice to have your contemporary and tempered perspective on the ships.
Cryptic game dev 1: Yo i just finished voyager did you know tom was a pilot and belanna was a female scotty.
Cryptic game dev 2: really, so that means a new voyager should have a pilot / mw seats.
Cryptic game dev 1: sure the fans will love it
Cryptic lead dev: there is no way CBS will ever sign off on that.
CBS: yes.... make it legendary, fans will pay us mor.....love it more
Im almost 100% sure that convo actually happened
Honestly the Connie Flight Deck Carrier surprised me the most when I bought the bundle a few months ago, I played it to get the account traits unlocked, and ended up falling in love with the advanced Phasers and surprising strength of the ship, now I run a dedicated character with it on a tank build, love surviving the beating that the enemies through my way and throwing a barrage of those blue Phasers back in a move reminiscent of a TOS episode
I got the 10th mainly cause it had the Columbia (I love the NX so much) and honestly the hero ship bundle is a better name for this imo. They put a price on my nostalgia.
Edit: side note, a lot of the 10th ani ships are fun to fly and full of flavor. The Lego defiant for one is stupid fun to fly when built around Inertial Supremacy. The TOS Conni is just pleasant nostalgia, and the disco Conni funny enough is an excellent way to capture the feel of the ST: Shattered Universe (Kodai you can't tell me they do not look like the imperial wraith).
How does the 11th Anniversary Bundle hold up?
Definitely not as well
You do also get one of if not *the* best phasers in the game with the ability to buy the disruptor version so that's good, plus the ships are still pretty good the sovereign one of my favourite.
Opted for the basic bundle myself, find the ships fun to use.
L. Odyssey makes a decent Torpy torp boat, L. Sovereign makes a great broadside beam build (just use IsoMags and get it to T6-X2), and the L. Defiant? "She's got flaws, but she has TEETH!!"
To be honest I never use the TOS Connie from the bundle (except for the Jeffries skin that is) . After having the Temporal light cruiser there is just no comparison, night and day in favor of the Temporal Light Cruiser. I recently got the Cruiserweight Bundle and now that I have both bundles, I would have been happier to have the cruiserweight one over the 10th Bundle. I only use a few ships out of the 10th where I use all of the ships from the Cruiserweight one over several toons. and they never disappoint. The 10th dose have some cool ships to be sure but you have to ask yourself if you are actually going to use all those ships...if not, the Cruiserweight Bundle is better
You just saved me 200, thanks. The skins would be nice, but not 200 worth nice, lol.
I love this bundle I the only time I’ve spent 300 dollars for something link this the constitution is still my favorite
I got it like 5/6 months ago…and yes, yes it is. Any bundle with legendary ships is worth acquiring. It’s got to the point where all I buy now is legendary versions. The flight deck carrier has been my main boat since I got this bundle, it’s almost a perfect ship.
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I still think this is a great bundle to get as a new player {only been playing for about 4 yrs) best purchase I have made in the game. I;am not the type of player that just gets a ship for trait or console and never flies the ship not my play style with this bundle I fly everything and have to best equipment and traits in the game that I can afford on each ship. I would say to a player thinking about it if you have the means to buy it pick it up. I'am not a DPS player just a player who is a trek fan and enjoys playing the game.
I started playing STO about 4 years ago or so. I had planned on getting the 10th since about 6 months in but every year starting with the 12th anniversary bundle I always found them to be more enticing. I now own the 12th, 13th and 14th, furthermore I plan to get the 15th unless it's a dud. At this point now that I own almost 150 T6 ships, legendaries, 3 anniversary bundles, 4 or 5 muds bundles, quite a few lockbox ships. The tenth just feels outdated and not worth it imo, I only like about half the ships in it and there's better versions of practically all of them available elsewhere and I own most if not all of them. It's too late to get it now imo. If I still had only a few ships and didn't have much money to go around strictly looking at it from a numbers perspective maybe it'd make sense.
I say it's still worth it I'm still using Legendary Voyager until I get the Lamarr Class ship. I got it for skins and all consoles.
Pilot seating allow you to build stacks of SGF quickly a very underrated trait and why I like the Intrepid/Legendary Voyager but consoles now with uncon and vovin console has influenced the meta too much that an extra console slot doesn't cut it in comparison anymore.
Still the best purchase I've made in sto and I buy A LOT
Technically.. Multi-mission cruisers have been around for a while. The Aventine and it's sister vessels.
Yeah, but none of them are full spec
If you put repurposed cargo bay to get the extra fighters, you can turn most of the ships into flight deck hybrids i have found them very effective.
Is this available for purchase yet? I know the C-Store cycles it around and I didn't see it last night when I checked. Thanks for the information. I am definitely gonna get this as I personally love the Kelvin Constitution look.
I don't believe it is currently. It'll probably be made available again at some point closer to the Anniversary event, before the release of the 15th Anniversary bundle.
It comes available every 4-6 months for a few weeks
When the game launched and the cap was level 50, I went ahead and bought several 'end game ships' for my various race/class and focused on the gear to kit them out. That was an investment I thought. Then when they raised the cap to 60 - they basically shat on those purchases. How much MORE money did they want? Didn't matter - I was done. It's like getting a degree then your work tells you it's worthless go back to school or go home. I went home.
Can you use the verity skin from this pack on a Lexington?
Yes, as long as you own Verity, you can use its costume on Lexington and any other T6 version of the Odyssey
@@Stu1701 Awesome I think it's so much better looking!
That’s the point of the legendary ships, they can equip anything from any other version.
Bought it when it first became available. No regrets!
10th anni is still decently good, especially with the legendary odyssey that comes with alot of goodies. But Lexington is still better.
Bought it for the sentimental value and space Barbie. But WHY is there no Excelsior included. I get why there’s no Ambassador class or variant. Ent-B has got to be the most hated Enterprise 😂
They're both in the 11th Anniversary bundle
I've been thinking. You know what would be a good 15th anniversary pack? The 10th but updated to be better than the ships that came after. Could wrap in all of the new ships of those lines (Adamant for Defiant etc...) that have come out and retire the 10th going forward for the new 15th for another 5 years. Add in some Lobi, Keys or bound upgrades to get all of them to X1 or a third to X2 and people would jump on it. Provided they're a good upgrade of course based on current player's meta and what items are in the pipeline.
Question is would it be separate from the old 10th pack or just an upgrade of the ships so those with it just got a massive boost? Probably the former with Legendary ships becoming Legacy. If it happens again for the 20th year (doubtful but possible though new engine/game would be better) Legacy could be Legacy Stardate xxxx to keep them all organized/separate.
It should be noted, that if you want to fly a Sovereign specifically, the Legendary Sovereign is about as good as it gets in the game. Especially if you have the Cold Hearted trait from the Breen event ship, pilot can activate it.
The state of the Sovereign is pretty bad in STO, so take that for what it's worth. When I bought the pack 4 years ago, it was worth it to me. Now...well, the Lexington exists.
What I learned from this, a Terran Bundle + Heritage Bundle provide more and better ships as well as traits and consoles for less money.
From a purely meta/DPS-focused perspective, absolutely.
But if you’re wanting hero ships, averaging ~$19.50 cash equivalent for some of these that go for 4x-8x that for a single-character version (or ~2.5x more when we look at Mudd’s account-wide unlocks), that’s not bad for Space Barbie.
And the stuff on these ships isn’t all *terrible*, just power-crept. Some of the “good but not meta” descriptors here just means you’re not going to be ineffective, you’re just not going to be optimal for today’s meta.
To where I return to my original thought: I agree with you from a meta/DPS perspective, I disagree for Space Barbie that also has effective-but-not-optimal traits and gear.
@@CardGameNut For Space Barbie you can just strap the regular skins to the Terran ships though. They come with the basic selection of ship skins.
What I want to achieve is a TV show Connie. I bought the 10th Anniv bundle. Now I'm hearing it isn't as good as that Mudd's Cruiserweight. I have the Legendary Temporal Flight Carrier and use it also. Any advice on achieving my ultimate goal?
The one ship i use the most from the bundle is the oddy. The rest i use for theme builds. The oddy is a strong debuff tank for me. I take it into elites with premade groups with a strong success rate. Korfez is still a toss up to the rng gods lol.
5 years???
Ikr
At this point they should just stop with the in-out-in nonsense with this bundle, retire it, and (at the exact same time) put the ships into smaller bundles similar to the Galaxy-X in the Mirror Universe Bundle. That way people who are holding off on buying it because of the high minimum price can buy the ships they want rather than withholding their cash.
Agreed. They should also do the same with 11th I think. Especially because that’s nowhere near the dollar value that this is.
I would hope DECA go back in and update the Legendary ships to bring them up to spec, as they are hardly Legendary any more.
Given what I'm hearing I'm starting to think that the ships were designed for intentional flaws on purpose either that or the development team that ever made these ships did not know the way the game actually worked and cause and effect but that is the original cryptic development team and they're probably not in business anymore I basically just want ships for aesthetics because I know the meta will always change with the game that's why I focus on a statics first
Question is, still worth spending this much when...
half my abilities is not recognized & consoles don't trigger in tfo, on every built, on every character.
Sadly, short answer is nope.
I know, new team & stuff. But asking prices are more steep then triple A games & redundant issues are handle like a weekend school project.
Sometime seeing where my money went to in pug elite Korfez would be appreciated.
FYI, Mudd's is 75% off right now
Overpowered and Overgunned is still a good trait... not meta, but very good. Does that one trait justify the price tag? No, not really.
I basically got that bundle for the space Barbie. Even back then it was a pretty meh bundle.
I have them all the T6 promo Version tho I think they're just as good but I have probably spent over $200 buying keys over years 😢😂
A no and no and it is hard to spend on Starfleet bundles. I play very little on the Fed side and have one character that uses a Starfleet ship.
So you have a pre established bias….one that is the complete opposite of the majority of players. You extra chromosome kid.
FIX THE VERITY! ✊
Older bundles really aren't worth it anymore. They've been power creeped pretty heavily with new ships and traits.
Your title does suggest a question that suggests an answer having had it been asked. I just don't see this being worth it. 12th, 13th, 14th and Heritage and you are in the top 10% of the game without having anything from this bundle.
short awnser YES
It's only worth the price if you are willing to pay it and a fool and his or her money will soon be separated
Sovereign Class........Look how they massacred my boy.
*NO! ITS NOT WORTH IT!*
We know for a fact that these bundles won't include all the ship costum options with consoles and traits. That defeats the whole point of these legendary ship bundles!
People need to stop wasting their money on this stuff!
19:22 i think the its time eng gets better dmg abilities. It would be the only way i could deal with some of the eng ships.
That’s not the point of engineering though now is it…..how many times did you see an engineer doing anything offensive…
@ i do. My oddy debuff tank is an eng too. As is my ent era toon that uses the nx class for dewsci builds. There was some eng abilities that dis dmg and debuffed cvs such as warp bubble collapse. You don’t have to be a tac to be a dps person. My builds may not be meta but they have their place in end game content.
Only if the bundle came with a rat's ass would I then have one to give. To me it's always been about the legendary Defiant but at this point... I just can't care. I'd never fly it. There are way better ships.
"Space Barbie"... Oh yeah it's worth it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lol 300 for this game 😂