A rollercoaster I did not expect- GROUNDHOG DAY FIRST TIME WATCHING

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  • Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024

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  • @Warlocke000
    @Warlocke000 2 года назад +2

    Groundhog Day joined the ranks of It's A Wonderful Life and Peggy Sue Got Married (the latter being the name for an entire genre of fan fiction) in being a concept that gets borrowed for everything from cartoons to sitcom episodes to sci-fi/fantasy shows.
    The first time I encountered a "Groundhog Daying" after this movie was an episode of Xena: Warrior Princess.
    The man who is funny, but a jerk, who is then revealed to have a heart after all (even if he has to learn a few hard lessons to get there) is not an unfamiliar role for Murray, but he does it well.

  • @kingbrutusxxvi
    @kingbrutusxxvi 2 года назад +19

    I absolutely hate the "repeating day" premise 99% of the time because films and shows get lazy and do it poorly. This is one of the few instances where it was done really well and you don't get bored. Andie MacDowell said in an interview a few years back that Bill Murray never did a take the same way twice so he's probably a big reason the film keeps from getting stale. Cheers, Kay.

    • @jej3451
      @jej3451 2 года назад +3

      This is also the original one. All the others are copies.

  • @PaulWinkle
    @PaulWinkle 2 года назад +20

    Groundhog Day, what a movie! A real event in the real world. A weather-forecasting-animal-event, brought to america by the Pennsylvania dutch (Germans speaking deutsch not dutch like the Netherlanders). In the original it was called "badger Day" (Dachstag). But there were no badgers in Pennsylvania back in the days, so the groundhog got the job.

  • @ayannajohnson5072
    @ayannajohnson5072 2 года назад +8

    I always felt like Fate did this more for her than for him. She was a good person who deserved to get the man of her dreams, so he was forced to repeat the day until he genuinely became the generous, well-rounded, empathetic person she wanted. His life was improved, but I feel like she was the one deserving of the attention of the universe.

  • @poeslanding
    @poeslanding 2 года назад +8

    The mayor also played Clark’s boss in Christmas vacation as well as the campground Director in the original vacation movie. Also he’s the head caddy in the Caddyshack movie

    • @Madbandit77
      @Madbandit77 2 года назад +3

      Brian Doyle Murray, Bill's older brother, also co-wrote Caddyshack, played Bill's dad in Scrooged and played the shrink in Ghostbusters 2.

    • @andreshernandez1180
      @andreshernandez1180 Год назад

      @@Madbandit77 he also had a small part in National Lampoon's Vacation as the guy who rents tents to the Griswalds

  • @wubranch1
    @wubranch1 2 года назад +1

    “He's so familiar” Bill’s older brother.

  • @MoMoMyPup10
    @MoMoMyPup10 2 года назад +7

    It's such a strong script! And then every actor plays an important role in bringing it home. Bill Murray and Robin Williams both turned their comedy careers into impressive drama acting stalwarts.

  • @DylansPen
    @DylansPen 2 года назад +3

    Murray's character tries so hard to fake everything for his own selfish purposes as you noted. And it doesn't work. It is only when he has a true transformation, made clear by his drive to help and save the old homeless man, that he can move on. Love this movie, it is one you can watch again and again. And again.

  • @Drawkcabi
    @Drawkcabi 2 года назад +3

    One of my favorite movies!
    This film is a cute little romantic comedy on the surface but it is actually so deep. There have been graduate papers written on analyzing this movie, its themes and meanings.
    The director, Harold Ramis (R.I.P. 😥 ), said after some debate with Bill Murray, the other writers and others, he finally decided Phil was trapped in the loop for 10 years, but part of the debate was that Phil was in the loop far longer, 10,000 years was mentioned. And since the movie came out many have argued 10 years isn't enough time for Phil to learn all that he did.
    The one thing that used to bother me about the movie is Phil may have come to terms that the old man was destined to die that day no matter what he did, but it still didn't change that at the start of each day he was alive and with no intervention would die cold and alone. But eventually I just imagined that once Phil began helping the same people every day, one of the first "errands" he does is collect the old man early in the morning and take him to some kind of hospice or care center, give them a generous amount of money and ask them to take care of him. At least thinking that makes the issue stop bothering me in my mind.
    Best Regards!

  • @daniellanctot6548
    @daniellanctot6548 2 года назад +1

    4:14 - That is Bill Murray’s brother, Brian Doyle-Murray who played in many of his brother’s movie, including playing Bill’s dad who gives him meat as a Christmas present in Scrooged (Which is probably where you remember him from)

  • @ccchhhrrriiisss100
    @ccchhhrrriiisss100 2 года назад +1

    Great reaction! I live in Northern California (in Palo Alto). However, I was raised on the East Coast and only moved to California after college. My dad is from Pennsylvania and I spent all of my summers with my grammy in a little mountain village. Every Groundhog Day, I call my parents to wish them well and an end to any harsh (or a continuance of any mild) winters. I know that the film is less about Groundhog Day than it is meant to teach a very selfish man to become selfless. Still, I guess that this film makes me nostalgic and just a little homesick (even though the town looks nothing like the tiny village where my dad grew up).

  • @BuffaloC305
    @BuffaloC305 2 года назад +12

    This is another rewatchable film, like many of Murray's films are.

  • @Kai-fb1ol
    @Kai-fb1ol 2 года назад +10

    Based on the amount of information he learned and the skills he acquired and demonstrated on-screen, I think it's a fair bet that he was stuck in the loop for several decades at least. Honestly though, it could have been much longer (eg. hundreds of years) and we wouldn't know.

    • @Songfugel
      @Songfugel 2 года назад +3

      According to the book it was way way longer than that

    • @jindas4217
      @jindas4217 2 года назад

      Yeah there are some facts I have seen where they discuss how many 100's to possibly thousands of years he was stuck in the loop.

  • @chriswilletts3621
    @chriswilletts3621 2 года назад +7

    The place was just wholesome. They were just all trying to be nice. So the pay off is fantastic. Cool reaction/review

    • @zimvader25
      @zimvader25 2 года назад +2

      The homeless guy literally just kept dying alone and rejected over and over and no one there ever notices him, until Phil does... after decades... lol

  • @pedanticperson1149
    @pedanticperson1149 2 года назад +4

    I think most people, after their initial shock & panic, would start out as just enjoying themselves as they struggled to come to terms with being stuck in a loop.
    As for how long it all lasted, some have estimated he would have spent decades (10-50) in the loop to learn all the skills & time everything out, there has also been talk of the original script/idea being that he was stuck in there for 10,000 years!

  • @robertombricen7966
    @robertombricen7966 2 года назад +1

    2:17 blood sausage/black pudding(or morcilla as is named in my country) is one of the best things in the world. It's pig's blood cooked with spices and made into a "sausage"... Sooo good

  • @TTM9691
    @TTM9691 2 года назад +2

    4:21 - That's Brian Doyle Murray, Bill's older brother and a comedic performer in his own right. He appears in Bill Murray movies, but also by himself. He was in the Seinfeld episode "The Bubble Boy" for instance. He was in "Veep"./I've seen this movie a million times, I never remember laughing at the line "Would you be interested in seeing the inside of a van?" until just now, thanks to your edit! lol.

  • @dsscam
    @dsscam 2 года назад

    Brian Doyle Murray, Bill's older brother, is who played the Mayor of Punxsutawney, Buster Green. He was in most of Bill Murray's movies similar to the way Clint Howard (Ron Howard's brother) was in all of his movies.

  • @THEMOECOOPERSHOWTM
    @THEMOECOOPERSHOWTM Год назад

    HAPPY GROUNDHOG DAY 2023 KAY YOU'RE THE BEST!

  • @periechontology
    @periechontology 2 года назад

    The original "reliving the same time period" over and over again production was a short film by Showetime called 12:01 starring Kurtwood Smith (Red Foreman in That 70's Show) that came out a little before this movie. In that one he was living the same hour over and over again.

  • @3DJapan
    @3DJapan 2 года назад +1

    4:19 As someone named Phil. I get this a lot, Bill, Will, I was even called Jill once.

  • @jcastromex
    @jcastromex 2 года назад +3

    My favorite movie that I like to watch over, and over, and over, and over, and over....🤣

    • @Trusteft
      @Trusteft 2 года назад

      I see what you did there.

  • @LLentium
    @LLentium 2 года назад +3

    Eternal recurrence + an office job.
    Truly hell on Earth, not even Andie MacDowell could help.

  • @joeymac3777
    @joeymac3777 2 года назад

    In the DVD commentary, director Harold Ramis (who played the doctor looking at Phil's head scans) states that the time arc is supposed to be about 10 years. Many people, including myself say much longer. As you mentioned, piano lessons to get good takes a LONG time. Getting to know everyone in the diner....becoming good at Ice sculpting. That all take A LOT of time!
    Also, you said the Groundhog keeper is familiar to you. He was in Scrooged as Frank's dad in 1955. In real life, he's Bill Murray's second eldest brother Brian Doyal Murray.

  • @edinscot56789
    @edinscot56789 2 года назад

    I love that day 3 is the one where he *REALLY* starts freaking out.

  • @BubblyRainbows
    @BubblyRainbows 2 года назад

    "4:04?!? You're going to bed at 4:04???"
    I feel attacked.
    (Great reaction, btw. And congrats on the merch line!)

  • @Caseytify
    @Caseytify 2 года назад +3

    I don't recall, have you watched Ghostbusters yet? Another Bill Murray movie where he plays a "likeable jerk."
    This movie contains a parallel to Scrooged in that during both movies a homeless man dies & Murray is powerless to stop it. Both times it marks a significant point in his character arc.
    P.S. Hope your health issues remain minor. Due for an operation to remove a melanoma over here. Lousy weather has caused at least one re-sched already.

  • @YoureMrLebowski
    @YoureMrLebowski 2 года назад

    3:32 nice popup 👍🏼
    personnally i like when you answer/explain in post production through popups and whatnot.

  • @chrispittman8854
    @chrispittman8854 2 года назад

    Another one that's up there with "What's Up Doc?" and "The Graduate." Very sharp and fast.

  • @MathMan271
    @MathMan271 2 года назад

    @4:20 that's Bill Murray's older brother (the mayor), and was in a ton of movies in the 80s and 90s and on

  • @BMetcalf82
    @BMetcalf82 2 года назад +2

    Literally, a perfect film.

  • @paulobrien9572
    @paulobrien9572 2 года назад +1

    Strange fact about this movie Bill Murray was bitten twice by the gopher so severely he required a rabies shot. Coincidentally I'm watching your reaction while also watching Bill Murray play golf on CBS in the Pebble Beach Pro-Am. The Mayor is familiar because it's Brian Doyle Murray his brother who often appears in Bill's movies

  • @3DJapan
    @3DJapan 2 года назад +3

    It's been estimated that he spent about 40 years in this day.

  • @logann7942
    @logann7942 2 года назад

    That hoodie looks super comfy.

  • @edinscot56789
    @edinscot56789 2 года назад

    "Yeah. They're hicks, Rita."
    Well, he's not wrong.

  • @3DJapan
    @3DJapan 2 года назад

    I like to remember that by the end of the movie Rita has only known him for 2 days.

  • @jeknechtphotography7106
    @jeknechtphotography7106 2 года назад +1

    The Punxsutawney Groundhog Festival is a real thing in Pennsylvania every year. I don't know if the movie exaggerated it a bit but it is a real thing. Also, I love this movie.

  • @deegee6863
    @deegee6863 2 года назад

    I think the idea behind the plot was an angry ex girlfriend putting a curse on phil to relive the same day for 10,000 years - then it was changed to being cursed until he learned not to be selfish and he ended up reliving the same day for 10 years

  • @3DJapan
    @3DJapan 2 года назад

    6:46 4pm sounds about right for a morning newscaster.

  • @Murrlin27
    @Murrlin27 2 года назад

    What a cozy looking hoodie!

  • @peperino25
    @peperino25 2 года назад +3

    I recommend you to put your reaction on full screen and the movie in a miniature , a lot of people watch youtube in their cellphones . Im only have a cellphone , no PC. My cellphone are small, so i watch your reaction too little in the miniature. I think your reaction are the most important part , movie scenes are only a complement of your reaction.

  • @christianhardtofind6349
    @christianhardtofind6349 2 года назад +1

    As a piano player I always have to poke holes in the fact that he learned to play by being stuck in a day for so long. Much as I love the idea of that, learning an instrument isn't just a matter of head knowledge. There are muscles in your hands that need to be developed, but since he's being reverted back to the same body each day, those muscles wouldn't be getting built up. Ergo, he would not be able to play that well even being stuck in one day.

  • @cbuchner6862
    @cbuchner6862 2 года назад

    The director once said the loop lasted about 10 years.

  • @Archipelington
    @Archipelington 2 года назад

    The “why is he familiar” guy is Bill Murray’s brother and is in lots of his films.

  • @XRos28
    @XRos28 2 года назад +1

    Great reaction, as always. :) In every other reaction of this movie they kept the morning music, none got taken down. Think about it... Again, I otherwise enjoyed your reaction. There are many theories as to how many days the loop is. between a few months, years and so on. Someone said that in the original script it was 10,000 days, but someone, obviously, thought it was too much, so it was cut from the actual movie.

  • @spiderfingers86
    @spiderfingers86 2 года назад

    The Mayor of Puxatony is Bill Murray's brother in real life

  • @FreeKentHovind
    @FreeKentHovind 2 года назад +1

    One of the best FEEL-GOOD movies I've ever seen, I wish I could've watched when I was a teenager....!
    MUCH BETTER romantic love story than "Titanic" (1997) too..... xDDD

  • @michaelhawk-fitz7563
    @michaelhawk-fitz7563 2 года назад

    I traveled across the country to buy a car and drive it back home..after driving for 14 hours for the third straight day I got into the shower in a hotel and turned on the water while I was already in it..as soon as the water hit me I realized what I had done..luckily the water was warm-ish..
    all it takes is someone to have recently run the hot water and you're getting scalded..

  • @tomjung4960
    @tomjung4960 2 года назад

    That familiar guy is in a lot of movies and cartoons. For me he's Noah Vanderhoff of Noah's arcade on Wayne's World and the used car lot boss on the Middle

  • @1ButtonDash
    @1ButtonDash 2 года назад

    people did theories on how long it was and it's been estimated upward of 35+ years which is scary AF if you think of it

  • @minnidrake3342
    @minnidrake3342 2 года назад

    Didn’t I comment on this channel before must be deja vu loved the reaction thanks

  • @YoureMrLebowski
    @YoureMrLebowski 2 года назад

    4:15 you've seen him before probably 😉
    that would be a great place for a popup of Brian Doyle-Murray, Bill Murray's older brother

  • @astromanjdh5908
    @astromanjdh5908 2 года назад

    One theory holds that Ned the insurance salesman is the devil “I sure as heckfire remember you!” and that Phil sold his soul by buying the insurance (signing a contract with the Devil) to escape the time loop. Alternatively, and on the bright side, the time loop for 10,000 years (mastering all that knowledge, new skills, and achieving enlightenment is not quickly done for most) was to achieve enlightenment per Buddhist philosophy that allowed his release.s that

  • @wraithby
    @wraithby 2 года назад

    #kayrequests "The Quiet Man" a great classic for St. Patrick's Day, March 17. You reacted to a John Ford Western, "Stagecoach". This is in great Technicolor with a legendary cast, romantic comedy, beautiful Irish landscapes.

  • @russellfarina9099
    @russellfarina9099 2 года назад +2

    Interesting. But stripes is still the bill Murray go to flick for me. Get well soon Kay, we need you and your opinions!

    • @Trusteft
      @Trusteft 2 года назад +2

      Stripes is awesome. Not as good (for me) as Spies Like Us, but still awesome!

    • @tempsitch5632
      @tempsitch5632 2 года назад +1

      Stripes and Fletch is a great sarcastic day.

  • @rickardroach9075
    @rickardroach9075 2 года назад

    12:42 You answered your own question when you wondered if the groundhog had anything to do with the time loop. Phil thought if he killed the groundhog he could end the loop. He was wrong, of course.

  • @barowt
    @barowt 2 года назад

    There's a theory video that adds up time for stuff he does and learns.. it's about 30 to 40 years stuck in the same day..

  • @swanchamp5136
    @swanchamp5136 2 года назад

    From what I understand there is a cut scene involving one of his ex girlfriends casting a hex on him to repeat the same day over and over, apparently that's why he gets stuck in the loop

  • @jonbolton3376
    @jonbolton3376 Год назад

    Great reaction. I recommend my favourite Bill Murray movie, Quick Change (1990).

  • @spiderfingers86
    @spiderfingers86 2 года назад

    It is never mentioned how long that Phil gets stuck on the same day

  • @peterampee-kleisius
    @peterampee-kleisius 2 года назад

    I think they stated somewhere that it's been 10 years in the timeloop.

  • @SACC_
    @SACC_ Год назад

    Happy Groundog Day!

  • @BuhoPnu
    @BuhoPnu 2 года назад

    A professional pianist sat down and calculated that it would take about 10k days to go from novice to what Phil was doing at the party. That’s a lot of days.

    • @BuhoPnu
      @BuhoPnu 2 года назад

      And so you don’t have to figure it out, that’s 27 years.

  • @Gqspeed13
    @Gqspeed13 2 года назад +1

    Feel better Kay!!!

  • @peterkim3370
    @peterkim3370 Год назад

    16:48 The White Death aka Zod

  • @Trusteft
    @Trusteft 2 года назад +3

    As long as I remember from seeing the movie the very first time when it was released, I wanted to meet a woman just like her. In my eyes she was perfect.
    As for the movie, it's a great movie, depressing in some ways and weird, but great.
    The one thing I was wondering was, sure he was stuck in a loop for years, decades, centuries, millennia, who knows...but isn't it the same for everyone else on the planet too? With the difference that he remembered the repeating day and the rest of the world has no memories of it. In a way like an episode of Star Trek.
    Anyway, great reaction as always. Thanks for sharing.
    Happy grounddog day to you too.

  • @seanbumstead1250
    @seanbumstead1250 2 года назад

    The writer's of the film say he did groundhog Day 12,376 times or just under 34 years

  • @matthewmarcinko9157
    @matthewmarcinko9157 2 года назад +1

    THIS IS MY BIRTHDAY MOVIE! I was born on February 2nd, Groundhog Day, and I watch this every year on my birthday! I was lucky enough to go to Punxatawney, PA one year for my birthday and it was FANTASTIC! So much fun! Thank you, Kay, for reacting to this! :)

  • @danieloconnor1005
    @danieloconnor1005 2 года назад

    The mayor is bill's brother

  • @tubekulose
    @tubekulose 2 года назад

    Bood sausage is great. I love it in all of its variations. 👍🧡

  • @GrimdeathGriffin
    @GrimdeathGriffin 2 года назад

    Interesting Tom Hanks was almost going to be the Phil character.I can feel often of having a repeated day and wanting to break that pattern.

  • @edinscot56789
    @edinscot56789 2 года назад

    He was stuck in the cycle for 34 years

  • @writhms
    @writhms 2 года назад +2

    The director (Harold Ramis) said Phil was stuck in the time loop between 30 and 40 years. Though an old draft of the script mentions possibly 10,000 years but that idea was scrubbed.

    • @hafeya
      @hafeya 2 года назад +1

      actually Harold said 10,000 years because he was a buddist and it's supposed to take about 10,000 years in order for the soul to become pure

    • @zimvader25
      @zimvader25 2 года назад +2

      @@hafeya harold never said 10000 years though, that's an internet myth that spread like wildfire. I've the dvd. Nowhere in the commentary does he say 10k years...

    • @tempsitch5632
      @tempsitch5632 2 года назад

      @@zimvader25 thank you. There is no scicne to it. There is no form or program or math to figure out.

  • @YoureMrLebowski
    @YoureMrLebowski 2 года назад

    9:23 he has probably asked before and it worked

  • @jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344
    @jackasswhiskyandpintobeans9344 2 года назад

    11:49 That sentence is very short sighted.

  • @danieloconnor1005
    @danieloconnor1005 2 года назад

    Roundabout by Yes is an awesome song

  • @billyhawk2845
    @billyhawk2845 2 года назад

    Man reading that paper is bill Murrays brother caddy shack and natail Lampoon's Christmas vacation he was in

  • @ryanmichael1298
    @ryanmichael1298 2 года назад

    33 years and 350 days

  • @krisfrederick5001
    @krisfrederick5001 2 года назад

    Bill isn't acting in any of his films it seems. He's just Bill Murraying. All over your face. Watch Office Space, I think we feel the same. So put your little hand in mine 🎵

  • @crocdoctor7581
    @crocdoctor7581 2 года назад

    Kay I feel ya with the hay fever and other allergy’s absolutely the worst! 🤧 I have 1 question what would you do if you lived the same day over and over again?
    #KayRequest George of the jungle 2

  • @michaelhawk-fitz7563
    @michaelhawk-fitz7563 2 года назад

    2 bangers.. #KayRequest Yellowbeard and Clifford..

  • @cessnaace
    @cessnaace 2 года назад

    #KayReacts "The Four Seasons" (1981) w/Alan Alda and Carol Burnet.
    #KayReacts "Silent Movie" (1976) Mel Brooks movie.

  • @chefskiss6179
    @chefskiss6179 2 года назад +1

    Nice one :)

  • @spiderfingers86
    @spiderfingers86 2 года назад +1

    Written and directed by Harold Ramos starring Bill Murray as a weatherman who gets stuck on the same day over and over again with no end in sight. When Harold Ramos was trying to decide which day to use he checked his calendar for the next holiday he could find and Groundhog Day was the best choice

  • @mtdouthit1291
    @mtdouthit1291 2 года назад

    Best movie ever !!!!!!

  • @zzhadeszz4400
    @zzhadeszz4400 2 года назад

    i love that you watched groundhog day thank you for picking it i loved watching your reaction to it, and in the script of the film its stated that his character went through that for years of the same day till he learned his lesson too stop it. see you next time in kayreacts.

  • @_Majoras
    @_Majoras 2 года назад

    BING!

  • @michaelhawk-fitz7563
    @michaelhawk-fitz7563 2 года назад

    "got the shingles real bad senior year almost didn't graduate"..but, teenagers just get chicken pox..

  • @davers59
    @davers59 2 года назад +1

    Don't drive angry.

  • @mwflanagan1
    @mwflanagan1 2 года назад

    #kayreacts Sure wish you would do some W.C. Fields films, since you’re into much of the older stuff. Just ask around for specific movies - they’re all good.

    • @russellfarina9099
      @russellfarina9099 2 года назад

      You can't cheat an honest man. I'd pay for her to review that one! That's a oldie but goodie!

  • @orko714
    @orko714 2 года назад

    I want that robe she has.

  • @buidseach
    @buidseach 2 года назад

    You should watch Kill Phill part one next :)

  • @emilywilhite5807
    @emilywilhite5807 2 года назад +2

    He didn’t look up the french poetry. He was repeating the same day so much he had time to actually learn french. Play the piano. Ice sculpt. Study medicine…. He repeated for decades.

  • @TTPunisher
    @TTPunisher 2 года назад +1

    Great video as allways and a fantastic movie
    This was my fathers favorit movie. It was also the last movie he ever saw. F**k canser!

  • @himbo754
    @himbo754 2 года назад

    So ... gonna watch it again tomorrow?

  • @TheBigTamale
    @TheBigTamale 2 года назад

    Nancy Taylor --- is so gorgeous.

  • @deboraharroyo3047
    @deboraharroyo3047 2 года назад

    Good movie, you should check out the edge of tomorrow.

  • @coldwhite4240
    @coldwhite4240 Год назад

    Great review. You picked up pretty much everything in the flow and meaning of this film. This is probably my favourite film of all time, and I've seen it lots of times. I enjoy it so much, I re-watch it every February 2nd. If you watch the extra commentary on the extended DVD, the late, great Harold Ramis says that Phil was probably stuck in that same day for many, many years, although as with much of this film (like why it happened in the first place), it's left to the imagination of the viewer.
    Sadly, Murray and Ramis fell out during the making of Groundhog Day and didn't talk for years (which is why Bill is not in the 'Making of' features), but fortunately Murray relented and they made up just before Ramis died in 2014. ruclips.net/video/2d7kkecft4w/видео.html

  • @bidoof8361
    @bidoof8361 2 года назад

    you know what I miss I miss RUclipsrs that actually uploaded videos because they were actually passionate about it or because it was their Hobby now RUclips is just become a job for people people just want to sell you something now support me on patreon buy my merchandise the product sponsor of today's video is this was the whole reason I stopped watching television in the first place now I'm going to have to stop watching RUclips because of the greed of the RUclipsrs I mean when people monetize their videos and they have a patron do they really have to have an in video sponsor it's horrible the greed of people nowadays.

  • @44.caliberbrainsurgery63
    @44.caliberbrainsurgery63 2 года назад

    Doesn't he spend like 30 years in the time loop?