When Things Are Going Well, Watch Out | Doug Wilson & Joe Rigney
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- This is the first episode in a 4 part series from Joe Rigney and Doug Wilson discussing the fables of Edwin Friedman.
Watch the rest of the series and more at JoinCanonPlus.com.
😂 If you don't recognize the situation, you are the guy who jumped
God is good. All His works are right. Trying to let go of the rope is one of the hardest things I’ve ever faced as a parent. The timing of this video is just another example of His perfect timing.
praise God!
All the time.
What a great discussion. We now live in a society of villains dressed as victims. Pastor Wilson seems accurate in saying these emotional machinations are rooted in envy. Listening to such great Bible-centric videos makes one realize how much their "church leaders" have let them down by their world-appeasing messages.
My response to the rope analogy above.
Honest working people are on the bridge and most government employees (citizens and businesses dependent on government included) handed us the rope and think we are responsible for saving them! I thought a perfect analogy. And God will be God when we let them go!
AMEN.
INCREDIBLE discussion
Really?!!!! How come, explain?
I’m 7 min into the video and I gotta say thanks to the editing done in this video and doing a split screen. I feel like I’m sitting at the table of discussion now rather than watching teleported to different camera views. Split screen is a great idea
Glad you enjoyed!
I strive to be the kind of man who can make a predicate nominative joke
it is the peak male mind
English, as a language, doesn't care whether the pronoun is Nominative. It only cares whether it's in the predicate position. If it's in the predicate position, it's me.
@@NeanderthalWoman-ou8ev you and me agree
@@Quixote360 It is in the subject position there 🤣
@@NeanderthalWoman-ou8ev Whom are you to correct I?
Amazing talk by 2 Godly men!
Sooo helpful, you have no idea 👌🏻. Thanks for confirming a stance I’ve felt hesitant to take. This is freedom Doug ! Luvya
My first thought is the Tragedian from Lewis' "The Great Divorce".
VERY GOOD, going to listen to more, maybe read Friedman 🤔
the principle of this is so useful.
Didn't have to tell me. I've told myself this many times before. Thanks for the reminder, though. I always forget.
I imagine a world in which he does not let go of the rope. Over time, more and more people see the arrangement, think it's a good deal, and take a jump themselves.
Eventually, most of the world is dangling off a bridge, barely held up by the few who didn't. Eventually, a tipping point is reached where the decision to let go is no longer in the hands of those still standing on the bridge. The weight just becomes too much for them to physically carry and they're forced to let go whether they wanted to or not.
That is our current government now. We need to let go. And as Doug clarifies God will still be God. My income is taxes near 80%, I am letting go.
Blessings on you all praises to our King
Such a helpful discussion!
Fascinating! Thanks for this!
This is awesome
I’ve experienced this.
same
Fun hypothetical and analysis. Would have been nice to hear your take on the “when it’s going well” and how to field said jumpers.
At 17:07, Rigney says that God promises to save children of Christian parents. Where?
Do you all have a series or resource that explains covenant in the way Doug is speaking? I know the basics of the covenants of the bible, but the idea of the way covenant practically affect us, I haven't heard this type of teaching. NOTE: I come from the charismatic camp and newly reformed. Just looking for resources on covenants. Thanks
Joe Big Rigney
So glad this video came into my feed. I hate it, but the last line in the video makes me think of people who have committed suicide-by-cop…..
Thanks for stopping by hanmo654
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Our sheep are dressed like the Wolves likened to those portrayed by Google Gemini's Generation of Culturally Diverse Nahtzees 😂
Only one Samaritan (foreigner) returned to give thanks and praise to the Great Physician 😅 the other 9 Samarians went on thier way 🥺
Let go of the rope...!
Hearing those first 5 minutes reminded me of Atlas Shrugged. Ayn Rand made these point 70 years ago. And made them even better.
It’s new to me so pipe down.
@@Meteorcentric Alright.
Ayn Rand argued for rational self interest. Which is psychotic I'm sure she didn't do this better.
Edit: I didn't explain that well. Let me try if you argue without God as the center and instead while calling it all objectivism your being double minded and inconsistent.
@@person6768
No, rational self interest is what the Bible commands men to be.
It's what Jesus was, according to Hebrews 12, and what He told his disciples to be in the gospels.
Also, there is no such thing as "arguing with or without God as the center".
Anyone can argue that 2+2 = 4 and they will be right, independant of wether they atribute the functionality of math to God. Truth is truth. A is A.
Joe seems to have good insights,
but they are too abstract to understand.
Abstractions only make sense if you know of concrete instances .
Joe, please give specific examples to illustrate the principles you're teaching .
There is only one here, Spurgeon's mom, at 15:00
Another was the teenager threatening suicide
Lol. Let the blue hair go :)
Dare I add another scenario which is somewhat relevant to today's arguments?
What if the hero is a woman, the man with a rope hands her the one end forcebly, she never accepts it but it is forced upon her. Suddenly, he throws a baby off the bridge which is attached to the other end and he runs away, never to be seen again.
A little different because there is three parties. But the concepts are still there.
I think it is incumbent on a person to catch the rope if they can. Evaluate if it was in incident of a bungee jumping brain fart or something. Then upon examination and evaluation of the unique situation... let go.
we should have interviewed you instead christopherthorgesen902!
Do I have a covenant responsibility to maintain a relationship with my narcissistic “bipolar” non-believing elder brother? What about his 3 small children who seem to be used as tools for manipulation.
Wow, tough situation. Prayers of wisdom and courage to you!
This analogy sounds like a wife!
weird take, aramisy.cajigas744!
@@CanonPress It might be weird, but hey, we men need to deal with reality and even suffer for it! Thank you for the lesson!
NOT NECESSARILY. LOOK WHAT GOD TOLD MOSES...
Moses said to the Lord, “See, you say to me, ‘Bring up this people,’ but you have not let me know whom you will send with me. Yet you have said, ‘I know you by name, and you have also found favor in my sight.’ Now therefore, if I have found favor in your sight, please show me now your ways, that I may know you in order to find favor in your sight. Consider too that this nation is your people.” And he said, “My presence will go with you, and I will give you rest.” (Exodus 33:12-14 ESV)
WE SHOULD NOT MAKE A DOCTRINE OUT OF SITUATIONS THAT ARE NOT ALWAYS THE SAME FOR EVERYBODY. THAT IS HERESY.
Wrong, caminandoensurverdad. Couldn't be wronger !
Can anyone help me understand the hate John Piper has for a single man? A man so offensive that he said “Christians communicate a falsehood to unbelievers…when we act as if policies and laws that protect life and freedom are more precious than being a certain kind of person”?
Does anybody out there realize what Piper is saying? He is saying that life itself must take a back seat to being anti-Trump!
And certainly not Piper’s life. Piper was referring to the lives of the millions of children in the very womb of their mothers. Lives that he thinks are disposable as long as Trump is hated.
I simply cannot even begin to grasp the hate that resides in his soul, or his popularity.
So a man decided he's a woman and if you're "good" person you accept that and you must use his/her pronouns.
This is unfair to Doug. The story is too complicated to drop on someone and expect an immediate answer.
I just finished listening to it.
Thought 1. It is a powerful argument for abortion.
Thought 2. It has nothing to do with the good Samaritan. It is almost the inverse of that story.
Thought 3. In prison, if someone offers to do your job, you never take the rope.
Thought 4. We accept inappropriate or insubstantial answers to the question, "Why?"
Thought 5. It shows the shallowness of Christians. The question should not be, why should I take the rope. The question should be, how does this glorify God. If you ask the second question your course is clear.
big yikes, Fred!
"It is a powerful argument for abortion." How so? The unborn child didn't jump into the womb and choose the dependency.
@@truthseeker5179 Just replace the generic "man with a rope" with the generic "unborn man with a rope", and a preacher in Idaho will tell you to let go of the rope. This is why I began by saying it was unfair to Doug. I have not relistened. It is too depressing, maybe later. However, I believe Doug's mind went to Luke 10:25-37. I believe he would have been better served if he had remembered Genesis 3:1-13.
Eve failed to ask how eating the fruit would glorify the Lord.
An abortionist will go to a woman and say something like this: You see! When the context is philosophical the pastors say let go of the rope. However, when it is your life, those hypocrites say hold on to rope.
I watched it last night. As I recall, every time Doug had a question Joe had an immediate answer. I should have added Thought 6. The story is too complicated and too twisty for anyone, other than the author, to give immediate clarifications. I wonder what that was about? On second thought, perhaps it became twisty because of the clarifications.
@@CanonPress Check out my answer to truthseeker.
@@freddavis976 , I appreciate your clarification, and see how you might have seen it that way at an impulse, now. I'm still not sure it holds. Again, the unborn didn't put himself into the place of the victim and try to garner the support of the Christian who thinks the child is getting what they deserve.
Honestly, my first thought was an entitled socialists thinking that its everyone else's responsibility to ensure them a quality of life that they arbitrarily declared they have a right to, though they haven't strove to achieve it, and act like everyone else who did is immorally neglecting to "help" them in spite of numerous people in their life warning them along the way that their poor choices are self-destructive.
I had to let go of the rope.
Enough is enough!
- Villan clothed into Vitim dress
- and crys as Vitim
- it's a disguised villainy
- Karen Grant George
- Bright Lights attract big bugs
- some people who want to Hitch their wagon
- Some wants to help and come along with you
- Some people want to go where I am going
- someone who wants to wreck it hijack
- Cheap knock of `Good Samaritan`
- Force responsibility on you and and responsibility doesn't work that way
- then is it possible for one family member to hand another family member
- Charles and I want you to know at the day of judgment
- when you face Yahuah and He's about to condemn you to hell
- your mother will be there
- and she will say `Amen`
What are you talking about?
It looks like his notes?