I have the TS1 irons and they are ok. I bought a TS3 7 iron and there is no comparison! The TS3 is the best feeling iron I have hit in over 50 years of golf!
I play these in 4/5/6 as a combo with the new ts4. I updated from the ts1. Im 51 and currently a 4.8 hcp. The ts3 are buttery and sound more muted and solid and IMO feel softer than the ts1. They have a slightly lower trajectory than the ts1 but still generate plenty of spin. I generally am a fade player but these clubs currently are just slightly draw biased for me, but no complaints. Again my opinion , while i dont know that the ts3 has a "like" competitor for a big brand, i feel that The ts4 is designed to compete with the TM 7MB and are every bit as good. IMO Maltby makes some of the best clubs on the market and honestly after playing TM and Ping for yrs i cant see a reason i would ever go back. Btw...i play their TSW wedges as well and these are just as good as anything on the market today. Here is my full bag... Cobra LTDxLS driver, Cobra LTDx 3w, Maltby KE4 3hybrid, 4/5/6 TS3, 7-G TS4, 52/56 wedges.
Thank you for this review! The Ts3 look really good seem forgiving which is what I like. I have been getting Maltby’s catalog for years, and am fascinating with their products, I do tinker around and replace my own grips and shafted a few clubs as well! I am playing the PXG 0211XCOR2 reg., set, which feel really good for a cast club. I also have a set of Ben Hogan forged Apex Edge vintage 2002ish, really nice in a stiff shaft, traditional lofts, with some off-set, game improvement looking top line, but feel excellent!
It was very tough to choose from the new Maltby line, but I ended up choosing the TS4. I have not tried the TS3, but if you were on the fence about whether you can play a blade, I urge you to try the TS4. I have the old TS1, and it’s a decent iron, but the TS4 is so forgiving for a blade and has superior feel than the old TS1. I had initially intended to get the new TS1 IM, but when I looked at the MPF, the TS4 was higher, so I chose the TS4. I’ll never buy mainstream manufactured irons again.
@@Hunter-zp5hd thanks for your recommendation of the TS-4. Good to know how it compares to the TS-1 (which I still play in one of my sets). It might be time for an upgrade!
9:14 Now I really was digging these and was considering stepping up from my TE Forged, but ooph, that top line is really chunky looking to me. Part of why I love the TE Forged so much was that top line... I wish they did a little bit of a grind on the TS3 to at last give the illusion it isn't as thick.
Awesome review Dave!! How did you find the sole thickness of the TS3? I am really on the fence between the TS3 and TS1-IM - hopefully there is a review of the TS1-IM in the near future.🙂
The sole of the TS3 is not overly wide, about the same as the TE Forged but a little wider than the TS1 (and the TS1-M I would imagine). I would say that it is ideal, but of course that is subjective! I think it might be helpful to decide if you want a solid forging or the hollow head design. If I had to choose one over the other for me, it would be the hollow version.
I don't think so, at least not soon. The TS1-M is not changed enough from the TS1 for me to want to try it. The TS4 is more enticing to me. It just comes down to time and money, really.
I really want to buy these clubs but I feel uneasy about not being able to hit them first. I would be curious to know how they compare to Taylormade Stealth irons.
Hi Dave love your unbiased reviews, word is you might be collaborating with @popeye who s a Maltby fan boy that only gives biased reviews of Maltby offerings that fortify his pro shop business. He and others have been eerily silent after a recent review of the Ke4 Max irons by Let’s play thru. I believe he is an honest example of an unbiased review from someone who does not have a horse in the race. Please keep you station as is-no Popeye with the fake superlatives! Thanks Robb a proud owner of three Maltby iron sets, PTM, DBM, and Ts2 all DIY
Hey Robb, thanks for your comments! I have known Brian (Popeye) for a long time. He is a fan of Maltby clubs and plays them in his bag. I can't speak to his reviews, I come across them occasionally but don't seek them out. But I know him to be a competent club maker and a good golfer. You might see some collaboration in the future, and hopefully you will find it unbiased!
hi Dave I looked back at your previous ts2 update and you had 155 total 7i yards with a 110 club head speed the could you make a comparison of the ts3 vs ts2. thanks
I believe I still have a TS-2 7 iron around. I'd have to build a club for the comparison as I sold that set. I just couldn't live with the thick top line. But I'll do my best to get that comparison data.
As always, I really like your down to earth review of Maltby products. This TS3 review is very encouraging - I always liked the feeling of forged irons and when a dose of forgiveness is added, it has to be a win-win. I happened to notice in an opening graphic that you are using a Garmin R10 launch monitor for shot data. Do you like it? How does it compare to others you have used? I recently was gifted on for Father’s Day (lucky me!) and I was wondering if you have ever tested it’s accuracy with short flight practice balls (if so, what type/brand?). Thanks in advance - John
Thanks John. Regarding the R10, I like it a lot, but preferred my Mevo to it for testing purposes until that started to give me inaccurate spin and club speed numbers. The R10 slightly underestimates carry compared to the Mevo, and I think this is because it estimates spin vs directly measuring it. I really like the R10 for practice, especially when hitting into a net (it is very good if you have 8ft of ball flight). This is because I can see a simulated ball flight, and get face and path numbers (although these are estimates). It is important to make sure it is level and aligned for best results).
@fit2yougolf926 thanks for response. Any experience using the R10 with short flight foam balls, birdie balls or any other limited range balls. Trying to avoid buying a net if possible.....
@@senko000 I've not tried foam or birdie balls. I believe they say foam or wiffle balls won't work with it. The birdie ball might work, I'll have to try that.
Hey enjoyed your video can I ask you how you feel about the Excalibur RT irons to me there intriguing but don’t know anyone who used them, do you like them are they holding up what’s flight like on them
Thanks Dave! How do the P wedge and 9i compare TS1 to TS3? I have the TS1s and love them (3-P) but the P and 9 are just a bit high for scoring irons even after bending down 2°. Been thinking about replacing with the TS3. Thoughts?
I think you would get a lower ball flight with the TS1, just because of the added weight low on the TS-3. But I will try to do a test on a simulator and test that theory. I will report back!
OK, so I tested both the TS-1 and TS-3 PW on Flightscope this morning. Similar shafts, graphite stiff, 85g in the TS1, the other 95g. Identical launch at 31*, both spinning around 7000 rpm. I did not capture the peak height but they were fairly high, consistent with the launch. Desirably high, soft landing.
@@fit2yougolf926Thanks Dave! Interesting. They do have great stopping power. I got them on sale $39/head in September. Such a good club. I appreciate all the reviews you do of GolfWorks equipment. Happy Holidays!
Mine are not sponsored. AJ from Elite Fir Golf is not sponsored. Jim from McGolf is independent. Gabe from Let's Play Thru borrows clubs from viewers to review. I'm sure there are others, those are the channels I am most familiar with. My understanding is that the Golfworks does not sponsor anyone, nor do they provide clubs to reviewers to test.
The Sti2 are great irons. They are similar in length and shape to the TS3. The sole of the Sti2 is slightly wider. I can't imagine that you would see much difference in performance. The only reasons to upgrade would be for the forged feel and cleaner look of the TS3 in my opinion.
TE+ Forged is coming next year (2024). Jacked lofts incoming on it. I think it was supposed to start with about a 45* PW. Not a fan of that. Even their new TS4 blade isn't even a 46* PW.
@@fit2yougolf926 When I asked the exact reply from Britt was "First, we have not decided if the original TE will go away or we will keep around as a legacy model. As far as the specs on the TE+. they will be stronger, similar to the TS1 irons. Although I do understand that some players prefer the more traditional lofts, every year that group gets smaller and smaller. Still, the reason we may keep around the originals." The TS1 (not IM) has a 45* PW, 32* 7 iron, and 22.5* 4 iron. Interesting how the wedge is 2*, middle iron is 3, and long iron is 1.5.
@@nickjohnson8246 good information! Those loft gaps are unusable for most of the golfers I build for. I can't see many average golfers going beyond a 5 iron, maybe even a 6.
@@fit2yougolf926As an update, TE+ will match the TS3 with loft and lies but will keep the constant .100 offset versus the TS3's progressive. No clue on the topline and sole thickness though.
Just my two cents worth.... As long as the TE forged is available, and you are concerned about value, I think it's the best deal out there for a FORGED, very forgiving, very, very good head, especially if you buy it through their Pak deals. It ends up being less than $20 per head. The Recoil shaft is included in one of their Pak deals, and I think that too is a very good shaft for the money.
An updated version is in the works, a more forgiving leading edge more modern lofts for both the TE and DBM. From the preliminary numbers the MOI decreased and the shape looked a bit more squared off.
@fit2yougolf926 As Rob alluded to....is the TS3 a replacement for the TE, or is something in the future a TE replacement? In the beginning part of your video, you were comparing the TS3 and TE, but later in the video, you were comparing the TS3 and TS1, I think. I was a bit confused, but figured it was me since it takes less and less to confuse me these days
@@biggregg5 the TE+ and DBM+ are in the works for sometime this fall or maybe winter as these things go now. Sort of the current design with the PTM sole and lofts.
No, I've never owned the Tour+. I have hit it when a couple of the times I have been out to the Golfworks. I like the feel and performance. The looks aren't my favorite.
Thanks Dave. I live in Columbus, so I was looking at them and the STI2. I think I'm going to make a trip over there to check em out. Love your channel. Keep up the good work.
Yes, but marginally. One reason for that opinion, which I should have mentioned in the video, is how the sole on the TS3 has a radius to it. Better turf interaction in my experience.
I have the TS1 irons and they are ok. I bought a TS3 7 iron and there is no comparison! The TS3 is the best feeling iron I have hit in over 50 years of golf!
Thank you so much for making videos of Maltby products. I play Maltby (24 years old, 3.6 index) and I’ve been looking to update my bag to these irons.
Starting to get back into golf and I always appreciated your reviews in the past. Keep them coming. I think these TS3’s will be my next purchase.
I play these in 4/5/6 as a combo with the new ts4. I updated from the ts1. Im 51 and currently a 4.8 hcp. The ts3 are buttery and sound more muted and solid and IMO feel softer than the ts1. They have a slightly lower trajectory than the ts1 but still generate plenty of spin. I generally am a fade player but these clubs currently are just slightly draw biased for me, but no complaints. Again my opinion , while i dont know that the ts3 has a "like" competitor for a big brand, i feel that The ts4 is designed to compete with the TM 7MB and are every bit as good. IMO Maltby makes some of the best clubs on the market and honestly after playing TM and Ping for yrs i cant see a reason i would ever go back. Btw...i play their TSW wedges as well and these are just as good as anything on the market today. Here is my full bag... Cobra LTDxLS driver, Cobra LTDx 3w, Maltby KE4 3hybrid, 4/5/6 TS3, 7-G TS4, 52/56 wedges.
Thanks for your feedback. I think a lot of the golfers interested in the TS line are seeking user feedback like this.
@@fit2yougolf926 hey glad to offer my 2cents. Just updated my post with a little more info
@@caintiger love the TSW wedges and Cobra clubs don't get the love they deserve.
Dave: Waiting for you to review the TS1 iM irons. Those look really good. Unfortunately not available to us mere mortals until "Spring 2023."
Hope to get your review of the new TE+. Still using my TE forged. About to upgrade into them TE+ after your review, if any. 😅
Thank you for this review! The Ts3 look really good seem forgiving which is what I like. I have been getting Maltby’s catalog for years, and am fascinating with their products, I do tinker around and replace my own grips and shafted a few clubs as well!
I am playing the PXG 0211XCOR2 reg., set, which feel really good for a cast club. I also have a set of Ben Hogan forged Apex Edge vintage 2002ish, really nice in a stiff shaft, traditional lofts, with some off-set, game improvement looking top line, but feel excellent!
The PXG seems like a good performer. I was sorry to see the Ben Hogan company close, they made some nice clubs.
Britt said they are working on TE Forged 2.0!
Yippeeee!! Ive been looking forward to this review.
It was very tough to choose from the new Maltby line, but I ended up choosing the TS4. I have not tried the TS3, but if you were on the fence about whether you can play a blade, I urge you to try the TS4. I have the old TS1, and it’s a decent iron, but the TS4 is so forgiving for a blade and has superior feel than the old TS1. I had initially intended to get the new TS1 IM, but when I looked at the MPF, the TS4 was higher, so I chose the TS4.
I’ll never buy mainstream manufactured irons again.
@@Hunter-zp5hd thanks for your recommendation of the TS-4. Good to know how it compares to the TS-1 (which I still play in one of my sets). It might be time for an upgrade!
9:14 Now I really was digging these and was considering stepping up from my TE Forged, but ooph, that top line is really chunky looking to me. Part of why I love the TE Forged so much was that top line... I wish they did a little bit of a grind on the TS3 to at last give the illusion it isn't as thick.
Yes the top line is thicker than the TE Forged. But not as thick as the TS-2 I believe. Hopefully the revamped TE will retain the thin top line
@@fit2yougolf926 They're revamping the TE? I didn't know that, that's exciting news.
@@jonq8714 that's the rumor!
Awesome review Dave!! How did you find the sole thickness of the TS3? I am really on the fence between the TS3 and TS1-IM - hopefully there is a review of the TS1-IM in the near future.🙂
The sole of the TS3 is not overly wide, about the same as the TE Forged but a little wider than the TS1 (and the TS1-M I would imagine). I would say that it is ideal, but of course that is subjective!
I think it might be helpful to decide if you want a solid forging or the hollow head design. If I had to choose one over the other for me, it would be the hollow version.
@@fit2yougolf926 Thanks Dave. Would you say it’s a bit smaller or same as the TS2?
@@robertvandenheuvel9695 It is a fraction smaller than the TS2. Only noticeable if you compare them side by side.
@@fit2yougolf926 Thank you 🙂
Thanks Dave. Outstanding review. Will you also be doing the TS4 & TS-1M?
I don't think so, at least not soon. The TS1-M is not changed enough from the TS1 for me to want to try it. The TS4 is more enticing to me. It just comes down to time and money, really.
@@fit2yougolf926 Golf works should really be send you sets for free lol
Currently play the Apex CF16 with/XP95 stuff shafts. Looking at getting into TS3 and going graphite. Any shaft recommendations ?
@@CodySR96 the Rapport shaft is excellent, definitely worth a try. The recoil line also might offer something that will feel similar to the XPs.
I really want to buy these clubs but I feel uneasy about not being able to hit them first. I would be curious to know how they compare to Taylormade Stealth irons.
I've not compared the two, but can tell you that these are very forgiving and easy to hit irons. Great feeling as well.
Hi Dave love your unbiased reviews, word is you might be collaborating with @popeye who s a Maltby fan boy that only gives biased reviews of Maltby offerings that fortify his pro shop business. He and others have been eerily silent after a recent review of the Ke4 Max irons by Let’s play thru. I believe he is an honest example of an unbiased review from someone who does not have a horse in the race. Please keep you station as is-no Popeye with the fake superlatives!
Thanks Robb a proud owner of three Maltby iron sets, PTM, DBM, and Ts2 all DIY
Hey Robb, thanks for your comments! I have known Brian (Popeye) for a long time. He is a fan of Maltby clubs and plays them in his bag. I can't speak to his reviews, I come across them occasionally but don't seek them out. But I know him to be a competent club maker and a good golfer. You might see some collaboration in the future, and hopefully you will find it unbiased!
great review on the Ts3 what about the vibration on a mishit is it harsh or not so bad?
Not bad at all. Especially with graphite shafts.
Thanks for the info.
hi Dave I looked back at your previous ts2 update and you had 155 total 7i yards with a 110 club head speed the could you make a comparison of the ts3 vs ts2. thanks
I believe I still have a TS-2 7 iron around. I'd have to build a club for the comparison as I sold that set. I just couldn't live with the thick top line. But I'll do my best to get that comparison data.
TS-2 with a Rapport R flex shaft gave me 153 carry, 160 total and ball speed of 110. Great feeling combination by the way.
As always, I really like your down to earth review of Maltby products. This TS3 review is very encouraging - I always liked the feeling of forged irons and when a dose of forgiveness is added, it has to be a win-win. I happened to notice in an opening graphic that you are using a Garmin R10 launch monitor for shot data. Do you like it? How does it compare to others you have used? I recently was gifted on for Father’s Day (lucky me!) and I was wondering if you have ever tested it’s accuracy with short flight practice balls (if so, what type/brand?). Thanks in advance - John
Thanks John. Regarding the R10, I like it a lot, but preferred my Mevo to it for testing purposes until that started to give me inaccurate spin and club speed numbers. The R10 slightly underestimates carry compared to the Mevo, and I think this is because it estimates spin vs directly measuring it.
I really like the R10 for practice, especially when hitting into a net (it is very good if you have 8ft of ball flight). This is because I can see a simulated ball flight, and get face and path numbers (although these are estimates). It is important to make sure it is level and aligned for best results).
@@fit2yougolf926 If you're hitting into a net go get some Titleist RCT balls. The R10 will measure spin and it makes a HUGE difference!
@fit2yougolf926 thanks for response. Any experience using the R10 with short flight foam balls, birdie balls or any other limited range balls. Trying to avoid buying a net if possible.....
@@senko000 I've not tried foam or birdie balls. I believe they say foam or wiffle balls won't work with it. The birdie ball might work, I'll have to try that.
I have an R10 in my garage simulator and I like it for all things except short chips.
Hey enjoyed your video can I ask you how you feel about the Excalibur RT irons to me there intriguing but don’t know anyone who used them, do you like them are they holding up what’s flight like on them
I really like the RT shafts. I feel like they load better than a typical graphite shaft. I get medium to medium high ball flight.
Are you going to test the Maltby TS1M
Probably not, at least not soon. There are only so many 7 iron heads I can justify having around!
Thanks Dave! How do the P wedge and 9i compare TS1 to TS3? I have the TS1s and love them (3-P) but the P and 9 are just a bit high for scoring irons even after bending down 2°. Been thinking about replacing with the TS3. Thoughts?
I think you would get a lower ball flight with the TS1, just because of the added weight low on the TS-3. But I will try to do a test on a simulator and test that theory. I will report back!
OK, so I tested both the TS-1 and TS-3 PW on Flightscope this morning. Similar shafts, graphite stiff, 85g in the TS1, the other 95g. Identical launch at 31*, both spinning around 7000 rpm. I did not capture the peak height but they were fairly high, consistent with the launch. Desirably high, soft landing.
@@fit2yougolf926Thanks Dave! Interesting. They do have great stopping power. I got them on sale $39/head in September. Such a good club. I appreciate all the reviews you do of GolfWorks equipment. Happy Holidays!
Are there any maltby reviews that r not sponsored by maltby?
Mine are not sponsored. AJ from Elite Fir Golf is not sponsored. Jim from McGolf is independent. Gabe from Let's Play Thru borrows clubs from viewers to review. I'm sure there are others, those are the channels I am most familiar with. My understanding is that the Golfworks does not sponsor anyone, nor do they provide clubs to reviewers to test.
What would you say is the drop off in forgiveness level from the KE4 Max to the TS3?
Noticable, but not significant. Toe hits are more forgiving on the Max
Completely irrelevant question but are you on TRT? You look absolutely incredible for your age!
No enhancement here, but thanks. Just hard work in the gym.
Sorry one more question. I have the Sti2 irons - do you think it’s worth upgrading to the TS3?
The Sti2 are great irons. They are similar in length and shape to the TS3. The sole of the Sti2 is slightly wider. I can't imagine that you would see much difference in performance. The only reasons to upgrade would be for the forged feel and cleaner look of the TS3 in my opinion.
TE+ Forged is coming next year (2024). Jacked lofts incoming on it. I think it was supposed to start with about a 45* PW. Not a fan of that. Even their new TS4 blade isn't even a 46* PW.
That is an aggressive loft increase. Still, I'm interested in seeing it.
@@fit2yougolf926 When I asked the exact reply from Britt was "First, we have not decided if the original TE will go away or we will keep around as a legacy model. As far as the specs on the TE+. they will be stronger, similar to the TS1 irons. Although I do understand that some players prefer the more traditional lofts, every year that group gets smaller and smaller. Still, the reason we may keep around the originals."
The TS1 (not IM) has a 45* PW, 32* 7 iron, and 22.5* 4 iron. Interesting how the wedge is 2*, middle iron is 3, and long iron is 1.5.
@@nickjohnson8246 good information! Those loft gaps are unusable for most of the golfers I build for. I can't see many average golfers going beyond a 5 iron, maybe even a 6.
@@fit2yougolf926As an update, TE+ will match the TS3 with loft and lies but will keep the constant .100 offset versus the TS3's progressive. No clue on the topline and sole thickness though.
@@nickjohnson8246 good information. Glad to know that the new TE's will retain constant offset.
What regular manufacturer irons would you compare these too ?
Hmmm...maybe the Apex from Callaway, or one of the Mizunos.
How would you compare the TS3s against Srixon Zx5 mk2?
I've not hit those. Similar feel to the 585 though.
Just my two cents worth....
As long as the TE forged is available, and you are concerned about value, I think it's the best deal out there for a FORGED, very forgiving, very, very good head, especially if you buy it through their Pak deals. It ends up being less than $20 per head. The Recoil shaft is included in one of their Pak deals, and I think that too is a very good shaft for the money.
I absolutely agree. I'm not getting rid of mine anytime soon. They will find themselves reshafted and put back in the rotation soon!
An updated version is in the works, a more forgiving leading edge more modern lofts for both the TE and DBM. From the preliminary numbers the MOI decreased and the shape looked a bit more squared off.
@@robsmith6668 I can't wait to see that, those changes sound intriguing!
@fit2yougolf926
As Rob alluded to....is the TS3 a replacement for the TE, or is something in the future a TE replacement? In the beginning part of your video, you were comparing the TS3 and TE, but later in the video, you were comparing the TS3 and TS1, I think. I was a bit confused, but figured it was me since it takes less and less to confuse me these days
@@biggregg5 the TE+ and DBM+ are in the works for sometime this fall or maybe winter as these things go now. Sort of the current design with the PTM sole and lofts.
Any chance the TE+ gets a review?
I hope to. But probably not until late winter or spring. I'm interested in comparing them to the TS-3
Dave do you have a review of the KE4 Tour+ ?
No, I've never owned the Tour+. I have hit it when a couple of the times I have been out to the Golfworks. I like the feel and performance. The looks aren't my favorite.
Thanks Dave. I live in Columbus, so I was looking at them and the STI2. I think I'm going to make a trip over there to check em out. Love your channel. Keep up the good work.
Would you say this is more forgiving than the TE/DBM?
Yes, but marginally. One reason for that opinion, which I should have mentioned in the video, is how the sole on the TS3 has a radius to it. Better turf interaction in my experience.
What was the shaft you ended up building the set with?
I went with Excaliber rapid taper 95g, stiff flex. Great combination.