This took over a month to make, hope you enjoy it! Plz sub if you did 😅 Watch this next: I Ranked Every SMG in a Tier List for PvP - ruclips.net/video/rEzitrlmqCY/видео.html BTW - Shayura has slightly less range after the nerf, so Thorn isn't quite as close anymore compared to when we wrote that part.
You should try Frontier’s Cry with Adiago it makes it shoots at 153RPM with 15% rate of fire reduction its probably one of few if not the only legendary180 in the game I think that can shoot 150rpm with adagio. I got a Frontier’s Cry with Stats for All and Adagio Arrowhead break and Polygonal Rifling and its my favorite of it’s archetype
I miss my Duke so much. That handcannon actually felt like a handcannon with how dangerous it became with Kill Clip. I hope it returns with a similar or changed perk pool or as a new gun that pays homage to it, maybe even name it something similar to it, like Prince Mk.45 or something of the sort.
All the forsaken weapons were ELITE. Dust Rock Blues, mindbenders, ace, go figure, duke, trust, and retold tale. There’s probably a lot I missed but those were my favorites
Right? I'm a returning player, stopped after Season of the Undying, and the Duke was the first weapon I ever masterworked because it felt utterly brutal. And it was. So bummed to learn about the sunsetting and such, because I've got a collection of them in the vault.
The biggest shame about Waking Vigil being mediocre is that it’s got one of the most unique hand cannon designs in the game. Gorgeous gun in my eyes. Also, I will say that I think Posterity will always be better than people give it credit for. It feels really crispy. Also, it’s kinda silly using Reconstruction in PvE and having 30 shots, which ups the goofy fun factor to me.
I’ve been using malfeasance on warlock with a well of radiance build and ophidians and man I love it. Most people don’t realize they’re getting tagged and then just blow up out of nowhere lol
The musical touch for each weapon was fantastic addition patty really made each segment and weapon feel special. And, yeah. Ancient Gospel hasn't aged very well. I've spent time defending it before but it's hard to compete with a Zaouli's Bane.
Dire Promises model is so nice. I love that model. I wish they would bring back the other Dead Orbit HC, the Agamid. I want to see how that 120 plays in todays meta, with it being updated.
pure poetry is one of 2 120’s that can roll harmony which paired with a good fusion rifle and rain of fire means lots of 2 taps and it’s one of my favourite builds
You can honestly divide the game's entire PvP meta into eras belonging to particular hand cannons, which I think is super interesting. From Thorn to Eyasluna way back in D1, Better Devils in D2Y1, then Spare Rations, through to the era of Palindrome, now I'd say we're living in the empire of crafted Austringer. You can also separate hand cannon users into different tribes, depending on which is their gun of choice. My personal favourite is Timelost Fatebringer. Still not gotten a god roll on it yet, though. My regular pleb Fatebringer will have to do for now.
Nah lumina is trash might as well not be exotic at all it’s dog water limina is never underrated if anything people over rate it cause they want to be unique but it’s just straight trash C tier gun
Got Dire Promise back right before factions were introduced from a cause stash, pairing it with The End, the trials of the nine scout rifle, and the Maxim sniper rifle in the heavy slot. Was my baby for years.
I’m mad about Seventh Seraph. I use it with Timed Payload, which gives it the worst TTK in the game, but makes everyone else’s TTK even worse than mine because I am flinching the living hell out of them at ranges I really shouldn’t be. It’s a niche use case, but it’s funny. And it looks really cool!
The blighting Play style with erianas I believe was strong when Lorelei was introduced, but now it’s evolved to wishender/le monarqe hot swapping, I’ve seen more of wishender in trials though as of late.
What’s that mean? He posted a clip of a guy saying what? That made you laugh so hard that you were in tears? I didn’t find it remotely close to being that funny
If I hadn't already subbed and liked the video by the time you said "Top Spot," I would have subbed and liked right there. Great video. Love the analysis.
I‘m not a fan of this ranking at all but this is some serious editing going on here, very pleasing video to watch! The music is spot on, the way each and every handcannon falls into its spot after the review, the volume is also quite calming. Perfect editing imo
It’s basically what i keep telling my friends, just use Ace (has been the king of handcannons since the day it came out) or get a good Hawkmoon 😂 there’s literally no downside to using any of them. Also thanks for a great and entertaining video 😘
Loud lullaby just feels right to me, it has a cool design, cool shooting sound (very important) and it hits like a truck. Takes some getting used to, and the farming sucked, but it was super worth it to me
D.F.A. with Perpetual and Opening is actually a sleeper pick, 15 stability and handling added to its stats makes it an absolute stat monster. 85 range, 72 stability, 60 handling with a hammer forged roll, those are higher than Pali’s. Pali also only beats it by 3 AE
One thing I've learned this last patch; there's no point using a hand cannon when I can just spam a sidearm and outgun even a submachine gun from range. For longer ranges, i'll stick to pulse rifles as there is no point contesting pulses with a hand cannon right now when the counter to pulses holding a lane was aerial shooting (that they've butchered to the ground) and sidearms are still very accurate in air
HCs are actually in a pretty bad spot bc their effective range is so small. Pulses are better at long range, and smgs and sidearms are better at close range. It’s only between 25-30 m approx that HCs are best
To be honest the cantata you rated pretty accurately but I tried out a decent roll and I would still say it's s teir like I wrecked in crucible I got so many juicy 3 taps. I also feel like the range is crazy!
Love my crisis inverted. It has focused fury, ensemble, ricochet rounds, full bore, and a range MW. Also really like my dire promise with swashbuckler, opening shot, high caliber rounds, and range MW.
I run an opening shot, airborne assault austringer and it's a really fun option for just dueling, you don't really need to be running anything else especially if you run the wings of sacred dawn exotic on warlock, it just let's you become a floating aimbot, it is very fun.
Not the best option at all, but Survivor's Epitaph with slideshot and frenzy is actually viable inside of trials or survival, if you are using a healing rift or a void titan barricade to recover health, you can get a 3-tap quite easily, funny in controle aswell ( before SBMM... )
From the Menagerie, I got 2 identical Trusts that had Opening Shot, Rapid Fire, Full Bore, & a Range mod. I cleaned up with that beastly 180 rpm hand Cannon. Then it got sunset, & quit D2. Haven't been back since. Yet oh how I miss the good 'ole days in D2...
The Seven Seraph is been my go to chill hand cannon, i gotten up to 10kd on pvp, so i think for your play style maybe it doesn't fit, but for mine is wonderful. Also the Hawkmoon is my tear one with the Ace of Spades.
Austringer is the first* hand cannon that I’ve ever actually seen success with and I have a huge soft spot for it because of that. I like to pair it with Duality for a very nice and reliable setup that hasn’t let me down ever since I started using it. *I used Last Word a lot back in the day because it was just really fun, but how much success I actually had with it is questionable lol
My Adept Palindrome has Killing Wind + Rangefinder, Range MW. It sat in my vault for 2 seasons before I started actually playing PvP (slightly) more seriously.
Im pretty sure there is a hand cannon called ‘trust’. Now im getting back into Destiny but im pretty sure you can only get i from Gambit. U might need to rank that since you ranked Bottom Dollar
Handcannon are great, again for another tierlist ! But, its another day, a new video, and i won't stop asking for a Sidearm tierlist :)) (Especially in the current meta, people will see how devastating they really are)
32:28 i personally think that something new is one of the strongest 120 out there. I prefer a Triple Tap Harmonie Roll and IT Just cleans everything 2 Tap with either radient or the new Hunter chestpiece. Its the only 120 that can Roll Harmonie, besides Pure poetry, but is far better then Said Handcanon. I do get why so many people Font Like it, but you have to give this Roll a try. The intrinsic Perk comes also in Clutch when it comes to Multikills and Teamshooting. It has a great peakshoot ability and is Overall great, i would really apreciate it If you could give it a try. I could also Provide you with a Setup for it. But i Gotta say, Overall so far a really great Video and i agree with a lot you Said. Keep Up the good work 💪🏼
Crimson has become my favorite hand cannon over the last month. It's just so easy to use and easy to out duel people. Personally tho I feel like it's not fair to even call it a hand cannon. I have been using bottom dollar often too since I got a rangefinder opening shot roll
Also one thing to keep in mind: 68 stability of stability for ALL handcannons so I HIGHLY recommend you actually try to get 68 stability minimum on ALL your handcannons due to 68 minimizing recoil the most. Stability also determines how fast your AA cone degrades so low stab is gonna make your cones TERRIBLE while high stab is AMAZING
Due to nerve damage that causes my hands to shake I use almost exclusively 180s. My go to hc (which is all I carry in my primary) malfeasance and crimson are awesome. With a crafted bow for my secondary and sword/ rockets for my heavy.
Rose is my new S tier hand cannon. So many God rolls but I got mine. Ace was my last S tier. My rose roll...hammer, accur, rapid, explos, rng mw. It is soooo Godly w the lightweight frame. Man. It needs a spot bro bro. New list incoming!!!!!!
There are a couple things you missed about Judgement. If you run payload + encore it can be a stability monster, and Adagio doesn't technically make it a 120, it makes it something wacky like a 127(?). Its still def B tier tho
I'm surprised you didn't pick a single legendary kinetic for the S tier. I get that austringer, eyasluna, and fatebringer are pretty comparable but with the upcoming nerf to rangefinder I would have expected fatebringer to be placed above the other two.
Hi, I wrote the script and did most of the analysis. Initially, we were only going to rank Ace and Hawkmoon S-Tier, but Patty and I felt like the incredible ease-of-use combined with the extremely high stats - in terms of range and stability as well as airborne accuracy and aim assist - elevates it above the rest. Fatebringer still has bad airborne effectiveness, even if it's partially mitigated by explosive payload.
Once rangefinder is nerfed I feel like hand cannons with explosive or timed payload will have much more value. Timelost fatebringer can get awesome rolls like eye of the storm explosive payload and with mods you can have both good range and stability
@@GMurph2336 oh yeah for sure rangefinder is usually going to be the best pick but it's good it's getting a nerf because other perks like opening shot or explosive have more value now rangefinder won't be quite as good
I remember when they announced Palindrome was leaving the nightfall weapon rotation. They said it would only be gone for a couple seasons, which it's been 2 seasons since its been gone. So hopefully it'll be back next season or the season after next.
My Surplus+EotS Bottom Dollar is beast as hell. I use it on Revenant and don't use my Shurikens so it is always at 2 stacks. Feels like Wraitmetal is always up.
I have always preferred 120 HC's personally. I had a blast during the 120 meta. But, it needed to go for the benefit of the game I suppose. Plus 120's are still a great option, all the way out in season 21 currently, in my opinion.
As a new player and a handcannon lover, this is great! Can I make one point though? Sunshot (and Zauli’s) feels WAY better if you lower your FOV. You’re playing at 105 I assume and that recoil was nasty, I am playing at 90 and it feels just fine landing follow up shots.
40:10 this is vupecula has some pretty good perks for PVE. like i have one with outlaw and multikill clip; pop 3 grapes, quick reload, and mow down everything elce.
Dire promise is still my go to. I love the ascetic of the gun and the loud pop. Kinda feels a little western. I love the look of cantata but for some reason it doesn’t feel good no matter had bad I want it to
Contrary to how it's ranked on here, Vulpecula is one of the only handcannons besides Crimson I can do consistently very well with. I have explosive payload on it (which makes most handcannons pretty broken tbh), 180rpm, with low recoil, it makes it really nice to use.
I haven’t watched the video with sound yet (imma go back and watch the reasoning) but I firmly believe that 120s should be higher, Especially igneous because of the range finder and pulse nerf, and just the high base stats.
Great list, and I would not agree more. Especially about the crisis inverted, I only see people pooping on that gun, but it can slap hard. The stability from the intrinsic perk just makes it feel good to me. Thanks for the great content my dude!
This took over a month to make, hope you enjoy it! Plz sub if you did 😅
Watch this next: I Ranked Every SMG in a Tier List for PvP - ruclips.net/video/rEzitrlmqCY/видео.html
BTW - Shayura has slightly less range after the nerf, so Thorn isn't quite as close anymore compared to when we wrote that part.
Love the content keep up the great work tier lists are always the best could you rank all the aspects pls?
Imo this tier list is very well made but I would put fatebringer s tier just cuz the explosive payload flinch is crazy
Can you rank warden’s law?
You should try Frontier’s Cry with Adiago it makes it shoots at 153RPM with 15% rate of fire reduction its probably one of few if not the only legendary180 in the game I think that can shoot 150rpm with adagio. I got a Frontier’s Cry with Stats for All and Adagio Arrowhead break and Polygonal Rifling and its my favorite of it’s archetype
I appreciate your time and effort on this vid, but it means nothing to me 🤣🤣, posterity survivors vulpecula are my S tier
I miss my Duke so much. That handcannon actually felt like a handcannon with how dangerous it became with Kill Clip. I hope it returns with a similar or changed perk pool or as a new gun that pays homage to it, maybe even name it something similar to it, like Prince Mk.45 or something of the sort.
Agree. The Duke was a HAND CANNON. That's how it felt. I want it back.
Bro rapid hit nd KC was my fav roll on that 120 nd the range with it omg I miss it so much
All the forsaken weapons were ELITE. Dust Rock Blues, mindbenders, ace, go figure, duke, trust, and retold tale. There’s probably a lot I missed but those were my favorites
Right? I'm a returning player, stopped after Season of the Undying, and the Duke was the first weapon I ever masterworked because it felt utterly brutal. And it was. So bummed to learn about the sunsetting and such, because I've got a collection of them in the vault.
same man, one of my favorites. I had it with KC and rapid hit. Shit was deadlyyyyyy
last time i was this early spare rations was s tier
Only reason it isn't is because it was sunset.
@@WayneRoberts72 range sucks now
LMFAO
@@WayneRoberts72 that’s not the reason at all bossman. It’s because the stats are horrendous
Bring back 150s
Props to the editing on this video. Concise and clean with a sprinkles of memes.
I really enjoy the editing you did for this one. I can tell you really put a lot of time into it and it's a great video.
Gotta give that credit to Galactic Bear, he did incredible work on this one!
The biggest shame about Waking Vigil being mediocre is that it’s got one of the most unique hand cannon designs in the game. Gorgeous gun in my eyes. Also, I will say that I think Posterity will always be better than people give it credit for. It feels really crispy. Also, it’s kinda silly using Reconstruction in PvE and having 30 shots, which ups the goofy fun factor to me.
I used to use posterity religiously in pve with rapid hit demo. Now it’s back with voltshot frenzy? Yessir
Yeah waking vigil is my favorite non exotic hand canon
Walking vigil always sucked its design isn’t unique at all it looks like a reskinned bottem dollar , dog water looks and performance
I like how the images of the Hand Cannons bounce slightly as you introduce them
I’ve been using malfeasance on warlock with a well of radiance build and ophidians and man I love it. Most people don’t realize they’re getting tagged and then just blow up out of nowhere lol
The musical touch for each weapon was fantastic addition patty really made each segment and weapon feel special.
And, yeah. Ancient Gospel hasn't aged very well. I've spent time defending it before but it's hard to compete with a Zaouli's Bane.
Dire Promises model is so nice. I love that model. I wish they would bring back the other Dead Orbit HC, the Agamid. I want to see how that 120 plays in todays meta, with it being updated.
pure poetry is one of 2 120’s that can roll harmony which paired with a good fusion rifle and rain of fire means lots of 2 taps and it’s one of my favourite builds
You can honestly divide the game's entire PvP meta into eras belonging to particular hand cannons, which I think is super interesting. From Thorn to Eyasluna way back in D1, Better Devils in D2Y1, then Spare Rations, through to the era of Palindrome, now I'd say we're living in the empire of crafted Austringer.
You can also separate hand cannon users into different tribes, depending on which is their gun of choice. My personal favourite is Timelost Fatebringer. Still not gotten a god roll on it yet, though. My regular pleb Fatebringer will have to do for now.
Sunshot is really satisfying to use once you can overcome the wonky recoil and low aim assist
I need to get used to being flashbanged every time I fire the weapon lmao
yeah it takes a while to get good with it but easily my favourite hand cannon
Ngl, I came back to D2 just for the Sunshot. It just feels so satisfying to shoot, to me
Lower your FoV. Sunshot recoil feels much better on like 90 instead of 105.
@@GMurph2336 wdym? i can't use my quake pro 360fov on destiny nooooooo 😭
I feel like Lumina is extremely underrated
I main lumina and I can agree
Lumima is a great hc
@@Jdtggr You can't main anything people main you!
Nah lumina is trash might as well not be exotic at all it’s dog water limina is never underrated if anything people over rate it cause they want to be unique but it’s just straight trash C tier gun
Let's goooo, hawkmoon s tier (too bad I really only play private matches against friends when it comes to PvP though, lol)
4:02 seems relatable because me and 2 other friends were gambit mains, but now we're crucible mains
Got Dire Promise back right before factions were introduced from a cause stash, pairing it with The End, the trials of the nine scout rifle, and the Maxim sniper rifle in the heavy slot.
Was my baby for years.
I’m mad about Seventh Seraph. I use it with Timed Payload, which gives it the worst TTK in the game, but makes everyone else’s TTK even worse than mine because I am flinching the living hell out of them at ranges I really shouldn’t be. It’s a niche use case, but it’s funny. And it looks really cool!
@@pluto3194 well, it is a 180, so it’s very limited. But I agree it’s probably around B. Seventh Seraph should get C if only for looks and for goofs.
@@pluto3194 no
The blighting Play style with erianas I believe was strong when Lorelei was introduced, but now it’s evolved to wishender/le monarqe hot swapping, I’ve seen more of wishender in trials though as of late.
Bro the cross reference 2:19 is too good 😂
What’s that mean? He posted a clip of a guy saying what? That made you laugh so hard that you were in tears? I didn’t find it remotely close to being that funny
I put this in the background so often
Such dense and helpful info
I've been struggling to get the Legendary Hand Cannon for weeks, but this video showed me some awesome strategies and I finally did it. Thanks a lot!
Adagio Frontiers cry is a lot of fun. But I understand the ranking.
If I hadn't already subbed and liked the video by the time you said "Top Spot," I would have subbed and liked right there. Great video. Love the analysis.
I‘m not a fan of this ranking at all but this is some serious editing going on here, very pleasing video to watch! The music is spot on, the way each and every handcannon falls into its spot after the review, the volume is also quite calming. Perfect editing imo
Rip Duke, didn't even make the list
It’s basically what i keep telling my friends, just use Ace (has been the king of handcannons since the day it came out) or get a good Hawkmoon 😂 there’s literally no downside to using any of them.
Also thanks for a great and entertaining video 😘
Thanks Patty - I really needed this and it’s superb the way you put it together
Loud lullaby just feels right to me, it has a cool design, cool shooting sound (very important) and it hits like a truck. Takes some getting used to, and the farming sucked, but it was super worth it to me
D.F.A. with Perpetual and Opening is actually a sleeper pick, 15 stability and handling added to its stats makes it an absolute stat monster. 85 range, 72 stability, 60 handling with a hammer forged roll, those are higher than Pali’s. Pali also only beats it by 3 AE
With is this editing, you are insane, the editing is so amazing
One thing I've learned this last patch; there's no point using a hand cannon when I can just spam a sidearm and outgun even a submachine gun from range. For longer ranges, i'll stick to pulse rifles as there is no point contesting pulses with a hand cannon right now when the counter to pulses holding a lane was aerial shooting (that they've butchered to the ground) and sidearms are still very accurate in air
HCs are actually in a pretty bad spot bc their effective range is so small. Pulses are better at long range, and smgs and sidearms are better at close range. It’s only between 25-30 m approx that HCs are best
@@spicy_xinger agreed. The one thing HCs were good at aside from peek shooting was jump shooting and that's been buried and dumpstered
To be honest the cantata you rated pretty accurately but I tried out a decent roll and I would still say it's s teir like I wrecked in crucible I got so many juicy 3 taps. I also feel like the range is crazy!
Still loving the tierlists, always will be the best I have seen
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Love my crisis inverted. It has focused fury, ensemble, ricochet rounds, full bore, and a range MW.
Also really like my dire promise with swashbuckler, opening shot, high caliber rounds, and range MW.
Awesome video. I didn’t see the Lunas howl tho! I wonder how it stacks up with everything else!
It's sunset but NF and LH are both decent now, especially NF is feeling pretty good
Really enjoy the effort and editing in this ranking video.
I run an opening shot, airborne assault austringer and it's a really fun option for just dueling, you don't really need to be running anything else especially if you run the wings of sacred dawn exotic on warlock, it just let's you become a floating aimbot, it is very fun.
Not the best option at all, but Survivor's Epitaph with slideshot and frenzy is actually viable inside of trials or survival, if you are using a healing rift or a void titan barricade to recover health, you can get a 3-tap quite easily, funny in controle aswell ( before SBMM... )
nice anotger one Just was about to watch the older one again but this is way better
the Phasmophobia death noise during the Dire Promise section was a great touch LOL
Love the "Whaaatttt" insert of Cross for Annual Skate XD
From the Menagerie, I got 2 identical Trusts that had Opening Shot, Rapid Fire, Full Bore, & a Range mod.
I cleaned up with that beastly 180 rpm hand Cannon. Then it got sunset, & quit D2.
Haven't been back since. Yet oh how I miss the good 'ole days in D2...
The Seven Seraph is been my go to chill hand cannon, i gotten up to 10kd on pvp, so i think for your play style maybe it doesn't fit, but for mine is wonderful. Also the Hawkmoon is my tear one with the Ace of Spades.
Amazing editing and aesthetics
Austringer is the first* hand cannon that I’ve ever actually seen success with and I have a huge soft spot for it because of that. I like to pair it with Duality for a very nice and reliable setup that hasn’t let me down ever since I started using it.
*I used Last Word a lot back in the day because it was just really fun, but how much success I actually had with it is questionable lol
Idk why but i really like your vids not only is your voice just amazing and theres pretty good details
My Adept Palindrome has Killing Wind + Rangefinder, Range MW. It sat in my vault for 2 seasons before I started actually playing PvP (slightly) more seriously.
Sushot was My first exotic way back at the beginning of d2. My favorite gun period
Man i love dire promise, i use it when i want to use duality, aside from last word it has my most crucible eliminations
Im pretty sure there is a hand cannon called ‘trust’. Now im getting back into Destiny but im pretty sure you can only get i from Gambit. U might need to rank that since you ranked Bottom Dollar
bring back old fashioned! love the little countdown timers in the corner!
Hawkmoon is my fav/main primary for PvP and I LOVE it. Decided to get a roll with Eye of the Storm on it
I’ve got a good roll bottom dollar and agree completely, one of my favorite hcs.
Vulpecula is actually great if you get explosive payload and something to make the reload faster.
Or get adagio killing wind to 3 tap people across the map faster than a 140 without needing to reload
The script was 13000 words. My fingers and patty's throat both hurt. You better subscribe!!!!!
Handcannon are great, again for another tierlist !
But, its another day, a new video, and i won't stop asking for a Sidearm tierlist :)) (Especially in the current meta, people will see how devastating they really are)
32:28 i personally think that something new is one of the strongest 120 out there. I prefer a Triple Tap Harmonie Roll and IT Just cleans everything 2 Tap with either radient or the new Hunter chestpiece. Its the only 120 that can Roll Harmonie, besides Pure poetry, but is far better then Said Handcanon. I do get why so many people Font Like it, but you have to give this Roll a try. The intrinsic Perk comes also in Clutch when it comes to Multikills and Teamshooting. It has a great peakshoot ability and is Overall great, i would really apreciate it If you could give it a try. I could also Provide you with a Setup for it. But i Gotta say, Overall so far a really great Video and i agree with a lot you Said. Keep Up the good work 💪🏼
Crimson has become my favorite hand cannon over the last month. It's just so easy to use and easy to out duel people. Personally tho I feel like it's not fair to even call it a hand cannon. I have been using bottom dollar often too since I got a rangefinder opening shot roll
It’s a pulse rifle disguised as a hc
Basically a sawn off red death
Thats why it became your favorite. Its stupidly easy to use and is absolutely busted. Takes no skill honestly
Also one thing to keep in mind: 68 stability of stability for ALL handcannons so I HIGHLY recommend you actually try to get 68 stability minimum on ALL your handcannons due to 68 minimizing recoil the most. Stability also determines how fast your AA cone degrades so low stab is gonna make your cones TERRIBLE while high stab is AMAZING
@Elephantality np
Due to nerve damage that causes my hands to shake I use almost exclusively 180s. My go to hc (which is all I carry in my primary) malfeasance and crimson are awesome. With a crafted bow for my secondary and sword/ rockets for my heavy.
I also love vulpecula with explosive rounds when I want to run la monarch
Rose is my new S tier hand cannon. So many God rolls but I got mine. Ace was my last S tier. My rose roll...hammer, accur, rapid, explos, rng mw. It is soooo Godly w the lightweight frame. Man. It needs a spot bro bro. New list incoming!!!!!!
Nomads cameo made me laugh way too hard 🤣 love Nomad
this is genuinely a fantastic video, great job bro ty for the valuable information
Loved tha Beauclair background music
There are a couple things you missed about Judgement. If you run payload + encore it can be a stability monster, and Adagio doesn't technically make it a 120, it makes it something wacky like a 127(?). Its still def B tier tho
The Aztecross cameo about annual skate had me cracking up
I'm surprised you didn't pick a single legendary kinetic for the S tier. I get that austringer, eyasluna, and fatebringer are pretty comparable but with the upcoming nerf to rangefinder I would have expected fatebringer to be placed above the other two.
Hi, I wrote the script and did most of the analysis. Initially, we were only going to rank Ace and Hawkmoon S-Tier, but Patty and I felt like the incredible ease-of-use combined with the extremely high stats - in terms of range and stability as well as airborne accuracy and aim assist - elevates it above the rest. Fatebringer still has bad airborne effectiveness, even if it's partially mitigated by explosive payload.
Once rangefinder is nerfed I feel like hand cannons with explosive or timed payload will have much more value. Timelost fatebringer can get awesome rolls like eye of the storm explosive payload and with mods you can have both good range and stability
@@JH-vb1wo rangefinder is only losing 20% of its 30% AA falloff. It’s still gonna be really good.
@@GMurph2336 oh yeah for sure rangefinder is usually going to be the best pick but it's good it's getting a nerf because other perks like opening shot or explosive have more value now rangefinder won't be quite as good
So much work into this cheers man
I HEAR PACHELBEL's "CANON IN D" IN PURE POETRY SECTION. That music piece is LITERALLY in almost ALL music, EVEN today
I remember when they announced Palindrome was leaving the nightfall weapon rotation. They said it would only be gone for a couple seasons, which it's been 2 seasons since its been gone. So hopefully it'll be back next season or the season after next.
I think we all knew hawkmoon and ace would be up in s tier, very helpful for me though as I've been looking for a new hc for my hunter I'm building
My Surplus+EotS Bottom Dollar is beast as hell. I use it on Revenant and don't use my Shurikens so it is always at 2 stacks. Feels like Wraitmetal is always up.
I have always preferred 120 HC's personally. I had a blast during the 120 meta. But, it needed to go for the benefit of the game I suppose. Plus 120's are still a great option, all the way out in season 21 currently, in my opinion.
As a new player and a handcannon lover, this is great!
Can I make one point though? Sunshot (and Zauli’s) feels WAY better if you lower your FOV. You’re playing at 105 I assume and that recoil was nasty, I am playing at 90 and it feels just fine landing follow up shots.
Love the tierlist, but I think you forgot to take harmony in mind, which helps something new out a lot
I love how to this day Ace of Spades is still S tier. That hand cannon is my favorite since way back when (out of everything I’ve used).
40:10 this is vupecula has some pretty good perks for PVE. like i have one with outlaw and multikill clip; pop 3 grapes, quick reload, and mow down everything elce.
Dire promise is still my go to. I love the ascetic of the gun and the loud pop. Kinda feels a little western. I love the look of cantata but for some reason it doesn’t feel good no matter had bad I want it to
The pure poetry segment was exactly that 😂
Your videos are always so dang THOROUGH. Well done!
Contrary to how it's ranked on here, Vulpecula is one of the only handcannons besides Crimson I can do consistently very well with. I have explosive payload on it (which makes most handcannons pretty broken tbh), 180rpm, with low recoil, it makes it really nice to use.
Cross yelling about annual skate makes me laugh every time
This is such a S+ tier list!!!! I agree with you all the way!
Well done video. Made some interesting points
I play on console, and thorn feels so good! Ace if spaces does not for some reason. Thorn just feels “smooth.”
Pure Poetry can roll with Swashbuckler and Grave Robber making it fairly good for melee builds
I haven’t watched the video with sound yet (imma go back and watch the reasoning) but I firmly believe that 120s should be higher, Especially igneous because of the range finder and pulse nerf, and just the high base stats.
Great list, and I would not agree more. Especially about the crisis inverted, I only see people pooping on that gun, but it can slap hard. The stability from the intrinsic perk just makes it feel good to me.
Thanks for the great content my dude!
Awesome vid, thanks for making it
maybe bungei brings new perks to ancient gospel, deep stone crypt weapons as a result, maybe garden of salvation weapons in the future
I agree with everything except Austringer, definitely S tier.
I absolutely love my current dfa, opening shot and tunnel vision makes the thing super sticky for me
LES GO THE NEW PATTYCAKES TIER LIST DROPPED!
Great video bruh, but I resent the “mind numbingly degenerate” remark 😂😂 those were fun times
My guilty pleasure hand cannon is cantata with timed payload. I have better rolls, but it's just fun
Another thing is malfeasance has really good ae stat,
on floaty warlock builds its soo good
A couple years ago I got a true prophecy with two explosive charges on it and fell in love. I'm still hunting another.
Ancient gospel deserves a bump because of the sunsetting of drop mag, any rolls with drop mag still on it are insane
Man I want Lightweight Hand Canons back 😭 just realized I have almost completely switched to Submachine guns since they removed them.