The Many HIDDEN Secrets Of Elden Ring's Most Disturbing Love Story

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
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    Elden Ring's shadow of the erdtree dlc, set to release on june 22nd, is turning out to be one of the most hyped dlc's EVER and in today's video we will be discussing Elden rings most disturbing love story, which holds many hidden DLC secrets
    In more detail we will be discussing in today's video How: The Many HIDDEN Secrets Of Elden Ring's Most Disturbing Love Story!
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  • @theemeraldgecko310
    @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад +7

    Helloooooo I hope you're having a great day!!!!!! If you do enjoy this one, please consider leaving a like and subscribe as it greatly helps the channel :)
    Alot of the music is by the man, the myth, the legend @alex-roe along with various sound tracks from fromsoftwares games.
    The discord for the channel: discord.gg/xv8t5bFSzd

  • @lloydfrazier3682
    @lloydfrazier3682 4 месяца назад +17

    I personally dont think thats miquella in that cocoon... in the dlc trailer, they make sure to show close ups, of BOTH messmers AND miquellas right hand... because thats a right arm sticking out of the cocoon... that hand DOES NOT look like miquellas hand from the trailer... down to the fingernails

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад +1

      Dude I absolutely love this, I beyond love this! So do you think it’s messsmers arm?

    • @nemesisundead83
      @nemesisundead83 4 месяца назад +3

      Miquella is still in the tree, what's in the cocoon is either his child (not likely) or a reincarnation, only reason I say that is well he started watering the tree with his own blood and sooner or later the tree would have been big enough (I say about the size of a minor Erdtree) where he could graft himself inside the tree, the figure in the tree is Miquella and the cocoon could be him but most likely a child or reincarnation of Miquella, but they do say, "Touch the withered arm, and enter the realm of shadow" no name is actually mentioned, but who knows really

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад +1

      Can I just say nemesis I really love this theory? The idea that maybe Miquella has children or that he has reincarnations is super interesting! Fingers crossed we get more info in the dlc 🤞

  • @GBRT23
    @GBRT23 4 месяца назад +7

    I have a hot theory that no one is talking about wich is Melina's connection to frenzyflame, since she is the only one who seems to know what the frenzyflame is, she is the one who talks about it the most and explain things about it such as it does not distinguish life, it only consumes, what about if the Crucible and the Frenzy once were one on the same, what if they were the older elden ring wich looks like a 5 fingered hand image, and guess what, we do have reference about hand splitting in the game, at this point we all know about the two and three fingers, maybe the frenzyflame does have the thumb cuz it means its the half of the hand who activelly opose and it is the half of the hand that is made to complete the cycle of the older elden ring by consuming the life that its other half, the crucible creates, or else it would not be a cycle at all.

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад +1

      I really like this! The crucible was a boiling pot for all life, everything was one.. the frenzied flame seeks for everything to become one with the one great again, it really does seem so similar! A reason why she knows about the friendliest flame might be because she’s so old, but you’re thought definitely could be true too!

    • @marystone860
      @marystone860 4 месяца назад +2

      Also, both Mohg and Morgott went through some pretty extreme mesures, to keep the Frenzied Flame locked up!

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад +1

      Good point Mary!

    • @GBRT23
      @GBRT23 4 месяца назад

      @@marystone860 for real, and they were Omens, the most Crucible related beings on this universe.
      The reason i got so hype with this theory its because Melina seems to be hidding knowlege about Shabriri, also Shabriri tries to concern you about her sacrifice, sounds like he care for her, but all he wants is for her to be spared so he can finnaly finish consuming her soul, since she is already bodyless and her body was burnt, wich means consumed by flames, i think these 2 have a lot of hidden connections to each other, Melina and Shabriri, both sound like they are hidding theyr intentions on the player.

  • @eldenringpvpenthusiast1710
    @eldenringpvpenthusiast1710 4 месяца назад +2

    Miquella's arm reaching up towards the area with eternal darkness, then dipping down, is similar to how those lilies and glovewort grow. Fickle flowers.
    Miquella seems like a hopeful being, while Messmer actively questions his mothers decision.
    While other demigods have sins attached to them, Messmer who questions god is the cardinal sin of despair, loss of faith/hope in god. Could be the one who commit the first cardinal sin. I think he is talking to his mom similar to Marika with Radagon. I think she's making fun Radagon because he is easy to manipulate, like Messmer feels Marika made a poor choice choosing the tarnished to be a lord, but then shows like 7 bad*** tarnished each in the middle of an awesome attack. The tarnished are like the prisoner soldiers the king from berserk sends to get Griffith back, he doesn't care about them, but he knows they get the job done. The pocket army he ddn't tell others about, by keeping the soldiers in prison. Probably fighting each other like arena combatants. Not so different from being a mercenary in armored core.

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад +1

      Really love this theory!!! I haven’t heard this yet, but it makes a lot of sense! God I need to read berserk haven’t got round to it yet!

  • @skywalkersbutido6375
    @skywalkersbutido6375 4 месяца назад +3

    I agree besides at least to me Miquella is not the heroic personality ppl have been expecting him to be
    Miquella is just bewitching everyone and we just might be his latest victim

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад

      Oh no I 100% agree, I’m a firm believer that miquella is going to be a villain of the dlc, have done since Elden ring released :)

  • @Chessheromusic
    @Chessheromusic 4 месяца назад +6

    I like a lot of your theory
    I agree with Mesmer being the older sibling of Miquella n Melania
    In shaded castle there are 3 statues
    Miquella , melania , and it was thought to be radagon
    But the older brother may have been Messmer.
    Mesmer may have been Marikas effort to move on from Godwyns death
    Making messmer
    Thor
    Thor had red hair and was Odins most brutal weapon against the giants
    Goldwyn seems like the baldur of the story
    Baldur was the golden boy his death started the end of the world

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you so much!!
      I honestly am so blown away by this!!! Elden ring takes so much inspiration from Norse mythology so I shouldn’t be shocked, but I am!! Thank you for sharing this it was such a pleasure to read!

    • @Chessheromusic
      @Chessheromusic 4 месяца назад +1

      @@theemeraldgecko310 ohhhh man there is so much i see that I haven't seen any you tuber theory
      About from the game giving all the mechanics of how Marika and radagon being the same person
      To the player character being a mimic of Miquella
      Well they are related
      We learn that mimic tear is from the ancient city of nokron
      The whole story how nokron got confined to underground is hidden
      But basically so this is not too long
      Radagon is a mimic tear of marika
      This satisfies all the confusing questions on how he and her could be the same person and be in 2 different places at once
      A mimic veil has a description that calls it marikas mischief
      Mischief ?!
      Oh I need to correct the statue in the shaded castle was thought to be Godwyn not radagon.
      But you never see marika hugging her children
      But there's is so much I can barely go into anything here
      Let me know if you'd like to discuss these things
      I would love to figure some new from a fresh set of eyes that also looks and thinks about this story intensely
      I also think Mesmer the impaler is a call back to Vlad the impaler who was part of the order of the dragon and had dragon iconography all over his armor
      A count or lord vlad Dracula with the word ... his father being vlad Dracul meaning dragon
      Dracul ya meaning son of the dragon
      Also many references to Count Dracula commanding legions of the underworld or hell
      Like I said I can get lost thinking about this
      Yea let's talk

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад

      @@Chessheromusicthought I couldn’t be more blown away today, yet here I am… amazing theories!!! I would love to talk more about this! Thank you for sharing these, it’s given me a lot to think about!!

  • @michaelbarker6732
    @michaelbarker6732 4 месяца назад +3

    I don’t think Mohg was actually in love with Miquella or had any attraction to him. Most of that comes from the line about how Mohg tried to share his bedchamber but never got any response. In the Japanese text, they use the same word here as they do when they describe it as a cocoon in other places in English. The word theybuse both times is more accurately translated as just “chamber” not “bedchamber,” so I take that as meaning Mohg tried to get in there in his blood form, but Miquella never woke up or responded to him being there, I think he was just trying to get him to wake up.

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад

      I really wish the Japanese translations were done better, so many things get misinterpreted because of the translations! There’s so many possibilities, fingers crossed we’ll get some more answers in the dlc, but knowing fromsoftware it’ll probably just give us more questions!

  • @sethrose1632
    @sethrose1632 4 месяца назад +1

    Hope your procedure went well and you recover quickly! Glad to see more content from you, always, but don't work yourself too hard my friend! All the best 😃

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you! There was a little complication after, but it’s all sorted now, thank you so much for the kind words as always! I hope you’ve been okay?

    • @sethrose1632
      @sethrose1632 4 месяца назад +1

      Doing very well, thank you! I am lucky that, currently, all I need is Shadow of the Erdtree and more lore vids with a ton of fresh source material. I really like this idea that Miquella is behind his own kidnapping, compelling Mohg's affection. That shows such a level of 4D chess that the other demigods, even his sister, may not be privy to.

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад

      I’m so glad you’re well!!!!! I hadn’t thought of that, but you’re totally right! How on earth does Melania play into this!!!

  • @K8theKind
    @K8theKind 4 месяца назад +3

    I’m glad you’re making a happy recovery! Take it easy so you heal properly!

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you!!! I will take it easy, I was worried to be honest that I wouldn’t be up to making a video but I’m so glad I was!!

    • @K8theKind
      @K8theKind 4 месяца назад +1

      @@theemeraldgecko310 me too!!!

  • @dbfzato-1327
    @dbfzato-1327 4 месяца назад +2

    there is in game info saying he's had no response from miquella, i think on moghs remembrance, but maybe he's being compelled into taking him, personally i think hes used the halgetree to enter the shadow lands, godwyns body grew after death with no soul mabie miquella did too, his soulless husk not cursed anymore, like how morgots curse lifts when dying

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад +1

      I really like this theory!! I had no idea that mohg had this item description, I’m going to go check it out asap!

    • @dbfzato-1327
      @dbfzato-1327 4 месяца назад +1

      @@theemeraldgecko310 its such a huge gane bound to miss something, i somehow missed most the staffs my first playthrough n had to lv up to 52 int to use the ones i found past my starting gear lmao
      your thoroy could still be argued is happening without moghs knowledge, its not like all descriptions are from credible sources, sometimes from vause quotes that could be biased or just thoughts on the subject, but he does seem pretty confident in his plan and miquella, so he could very well be being controlled
      the art work in the halegtree, of a guy with a big needle (possibly a vague depiction of older miquella) in front of lots of tortured looking souls, makes me think of Griffith (berserk) i think he's driven by ambition and willing to stand on the lives of others to get it, like melania says hes the most fearsome, and the trailer about using love and nothing being scarier, marika did the same thing!!
      tin foil hat time lol he might even have used ranni (clearly connected she had torrent and the bell, she also puts kali to sleep when you meet her) in his plans n was the real mastermind of the night of the black knifes, each half of the death mark makes a eclipse sign, something he wanted, a few of them protect the tree as well
      also why is rannis soul only half in her face? whats the other half n other set of hands for, mabie her and miquella shared a body, just spit balling now aha
      also melina needs more love in the dlc my guess is she connected to messmer, messmer relates to grafting (the snake in his chest), and radigion with red hair and wanting to be whole but seems he going the dark root aha

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад +1

      ⁠@@dbfzato-1327​​⁠I feel you lmao, somehow I hadn’t got vyke’s spear managed to get it for the first time while doing the video before this one, I absolutely loveeeee it!
      I really do hope the theory turns out to be the case to be honest, I was a big fan lmao. Thank you for telling me about the item description 🙏
      I love the idea that Ranni has a lot to do with this! That’s a really, really good point, where the bloody hell is the other physical part of her spectral body?
      They really need to don’t they? I love Melina’s character, I hope they do more with her!

  • @pavyzone7021
    @pavyzone7021 4 месяца назад +1

    Isn't that a double headed serpent on Miquella's ring if you look closely?

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад

      I hadn’t noticed that, but if that is the case that’d be so cool!

  • @graciesugarbee
    @graciesugarbee 4 месяца назад +1

    I hope the procedure went well and that you are healing quickly and smoothly!

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you :) just a bit sore but it’s slowly getting better :)
      Hope you’ve been okay?

    • @graciesugarbee
      @graciesugarbee 4 месяца назад +1

      @@theemeraldgecko310 I've been okay! Lots going on and I have some more health issues that have popped up but I have to wait about a month before there's any kind of answers for it. So I'm just trying to vibe and not panic! Loved the video btw!

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад +1

      I’m glad it’s been okay, I’m sorry you’ve had some health issues, do they know what exactly it is? Or is it still up in the air? You’ll be okay try not to worry!
      Thank you! So glad you enjoyed it!

    • @graciesugarbee
      @graciesugarbee 4 месяца назад +1

      @@theemeraldgecko310 we aren't sure yet! They found a mass on my liver and I have to have an MRI to figure out exactly what the mass is! Spooky but hoping it's the best case and is just fat!

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад +1

      @graciesugarbee oh god! I know it might sound bad, but im sure it isn’t anything to worry about, try not to worry!

  • @K8theKind
    @K8theKind 4 месяца назад +2

    I’m here for the tea from the lands between!!!☕️☕️☕️💜💜💜😆👏👏👏

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад +1

      Hope the tea was good 🤣☕️

    • @K8theKind
      @K8theKind 4 месяца назад +1

      @@theemeraldgecko310 it was bloody delightful! 🫵😄☕️☕️

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад

      @Luaeria I’m soooooooo glad

  • @alistmaker
    @alistmaker 3 месяца назад

    Has anyone noticed that Moog’s spear is the same one that Messmer has?

  • @Ragnorok657
    @Ragnorok657 4 месяца назад +1

    Mohg was clapping dead cheeks .

  • @marystone860
    @marystone860 4 месяца назад +1

    Wonderful video, as always! I sincerely hope you sre fully well soon! Like I have said before, NEVER worry about the quality of your content, your health and well-being comes FIRST! That being said, like I have been theorizing with you for months, Miquella WANTED to be taken, the Formless Mother is FAR more involved than most realize, like I think she influenced Malenia to go to Caleid, to fight Radahn, so Miquella can be taken by Mohg to Mohgwyn Palace, so he can be turned into a full God! Miquella probably forsaw failure, so, he started his Plan B! He wants to ascend to FULL godhood, first and foremost! For us, Mohg has to die, loose ends and Miquella wouldn't need him anymore, and Radahn has to go too, because Miquella can't do anything, while he's still alive! I think, Miquella isn't above having half-siblings killed, to succeed in his plans! If Miquella REALLY didn't want to be taken to Mohgwyn Palace, he could have had Malenia NUKE Mohg before he got anywhere near the Haligtree! I REALLY think Mohg is telling the truth! Miquella and the Formless Mother WANTED this! Miquella is WAY too powerful, for this to be one-sided! He's a Empyrean, after all, the one most capable to fully ascending to Godhood! He can't do that, while in just a spirit form, in the Land of Shadows. I think Messmer is or was a Empyrean as well, if his power is supposed to be THAT extreme, he's on the same level as Miquella, Malenia, Ranni, and the Gloam-Eyed Queen! It would have been interesting to see how those Council Meetings, with Messmer, went! Malenia just HAD to have been influenced by the Formless Mother, and if you want to go full dark-side, Miquella, to got to Calied and fight Radahn! SHe had NO other reason to be there! WOULD Miquella manipulate hisnown twin-sister to achieve his own ends, well, we might see in the DLC! I think our actions with or against Messmer, is going to dictate how the DLC is going to end! MAN, if we get to TEAM UP with Messmer, to take on a Full God Miquella, who could have a Deathblight/Frenzy Vassal Beast for all we know, and Messmer's Flame could be one of our only shots against that! IF Miquella TRULY wields power on THAT scale, one of the biggest "HOLY S%#@" moments, EVER, up towards, or, during the Final Battle, the Gloam-Eyed Queen frickin' shows up, because it's she (other than possibly Messmer), that can truly combat Frenzied Flame! Just IMAGINE, US, The Tarnished, Messmer, AND the Gloam-Eyed Queen all fighting TOGETHER, against Miquella, the (probable) God of Blood/Frenzied Flame/Deathblight! There is NO WAY, they're going to let what's left of Godwyn, just sitting there, or, the (possible) return of the Gloam-Eyed Queen and her threat, if you get the Frenzied Flame Ending, hanging there! I have heard that there were going to be TWO DLC's at first, but, they then decided to put them together into a BIG one instead! I think the other one was going to be about the Gloam-Eyed Queen! IF Miquella really goes THAT far, no one is going to let all creation burn to the ground! I still think the boss that Miyazaki spoke of, that's supposed to be FAR harder than Malenia EVER was, is Miquella! ESPECIALLY if he fully ascends, or is about to, and has Blood/Frenzied Flame/ Deathblight powers, AND possibly a Vassal Beast mostly made up of what's left of Godwyn! NO WAY, Messmer is the Big-Baddie, it's too simple and obvious, and that's NOT how Miyazaki thinks! He never does anything for nothing! Would it be great to team up with a Demi-God/Empyrean, for a change! Sorry this latest theory went all over the place, that's just how my brain works, lol! Miquella is just really going to pull something, and it's NOT going to be all light and good! I really hope you are fully better soon! Thank You for listening to all my really rambliy theories!

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад

      Thank you! I’m honestly so glad you enjoyed this one! I know, I just worry?
      Really liked these!!! You never need to apologise!!! I really enjoyed them! Would love to see the things you spoke of come to fruition!! Thank you for sharing this with me!
      I hope you’ve been okay?

  • @travman1987
    @travman1987 4 месяца назад +2

    It’s not consentual.
    Miquella was “stolen” from the tree where miquella had intentions of his own.
    Also, that is just miquellas lifeless husk. It’s not really Miquella anymore. Just like Godwyns corpse.
    A corpse can’t give consent lol.
    Mohg is a failure, his dynasty is a failure. He is maidenless and desperate. This is why he placed a ring on Miquellas lifeless finger

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад

      I do get where you’re coming from! I think there’s a big chance it could be a kinda corpse, I was of the same thought as you in regards to that until the dlc trailer dropped, some of the dlc trailer content has me questioning what we originally thought, hence this video :)

    • @zackdoom
      @zackdoom 4 месяца назад +1

      Theres that picture of mogh snd miquella holding hands walking
      No timeline but interesting

    • @travman1987
      @travman1987 4 месяца назад

      @@zackdoom that’s probably fan art

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад

      Zack I had no idea about this, where did you find this?

    • @zackdoom
      @zackdoom 4 месяца назад +1

      @@travman1987 aye i cant seem to find any trace of it now :( may have been but looked very in the style the official art pieces in the intro looked

  • @zackdoom
    @zackdoom 4 месяца назад +1

    I think the ring represents union most of all
    Marriage, the trees, 2 beings in 1 body

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад

      Great idea! There’s so many possibilities, I cannot wait till the dlc!!!

  • @SuperMaster000X
    @SuperMaster000X 4 месяца назад +1

    Sounds like a Hades and Persefone situation. Maybe

  • @juancamiloparrarodriguez8041
    @juancamiloparrarodriguez8041 4 месяца назад +1

    Mogh is just like me fr fr

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад +1

      Dude my insight is going through the bloody roof, too much information 🙏🙏

  • @konigstigerr4518
    @konigstigerr4518 4 месяца назад +1

    elden ring is my favorite toxic yaoi

  • @dredgen7715
    @dredgen7715 4 месяца назад +1

    Mogh gay?

  • @impossibleresult
    @impossibleresult 4 месяца назад +1

    BRO FIX Ur SOUND, I CAN BARELY HEAR YOU, I have my TV VOLUME SET TO 60 ......BLESS

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад +1

      DUDE I THINK THE PROBLEM MIGHT BE WITH YOU’RE TV I MADE SUREEEEEEEEEE IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH AUDIO LEVEL, OR PERHAPS IM JUST GOING DELUSIONAL

    • @impossibleresult
      @impossibleresult 4 месяца назад +1

      @@theemeraldgecko310 nah bro im not trolling..either way i watch your vids and like them all.

    • @theemeraldgecko310
      @theemeraldgecko310  4 месяца назад

      @impossibleresult I hope it didn’t affect the viewing too much 🙏 thank you so much, I’m glad you like them!

    • @BenefitCounterbench
      @BenefitCounterbench 4 месяца назад

      The volume is set to EIGHT (8) on my TV and it's still loud. Yours might have a problem.