Scottish History ’s Unexpected Monument
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2023
- Scottish history has left a string of memorials. Some in more obvious places than others. Scottish history tour guide, Bruce Fummey travels to Orkney to reveal a monument to Covenanters in the most unexpected place.
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As a Scottish history tour guide people ask: Help me plan a Scottish holiday, or help me plan a Scottish vacation if your from the US. So I've tried to give a bit of history, but some places of interest in Scotland as well.
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Great show in Irvine 🎉
Funny interesting and educational for all ages.
Guy in the foyer was talking about
Captain Elizabeth (Betsy) Miller fae Saltcoats
What happened to the ship's captain - did he face any consequences for murder, at the very least of those who made it ashore?
Thank you for this. My 7th great grandfather was one of those who escaped from the wreck. He eventually settled in Ireland and his descendants now live all across the world. I am in Northern Ireland.
HahHahhahahahaha relax weirdo
Wipe yer chin slavours
The most chilling part of this story is the fact that these men had become “insurable cargo” whose deaths could result in a loss payout to the shipowner and the captain. Once again, Bruce, your masterful storytelling brings history alive and presents vital moral questions.
ain't capitalism grand.
@@kenbrown2808 Sarcasm noted. I’d include any personally held belief system, whether economic, religious, ethical, or political, that encourages a person to dehumanize others.
@@gerryphilly53 sadly, far too many people choose their belief system on a basis of what it allows them to do to others.
@@kenbrown2808 All too true.
That's "Human Capital Stock" for you
My Mother’s Grandmother Moodie came from the Orkneys(immigrants to the US in 1888) . My Aunt remembered Scots songs she would sing, and said she was homesick. Mom was proud of her heritage and being Presbyterian. If I win the lottery, I’ll visit the Orkneys.
This is going to sound crazy but you may not need to win the lottery. I live in England but work in Caithness (a long story) but drive past Scrabster, the ferry port to Orkney, whenever I travel north for work. Get to England and I will drive you there. Orkney will take your breath away.
One of your most fascinating, and moving, videos. The echoes of the inhumane treatment of "cargoes" of slaves come to mind.
Growing up in Scotland, I learned rather disjointed nuggets of Scottish History, mostly from a 30-minute schools radio programme, in Primary, with occasional stories of famous explorers, and Cive of India, given no appreciable context. Later, we were taught a little, equally disjointed, English and US History for four years in High-school, where it was combined with Geography (learning details of crops, industries, canals and rivers in places we didn't know in which country of the UK they were located) and comparitive, contempory systems of Government, into one subject, given six, 40-minute periods per week in total. I had no idea the Covenanters were connected to the events of the "English" Civil War, and I never heard this shameful ending.
It never ceases to impress me that your short videos make sense to me of a subject where education never succeeded. Thank you.
If my father hadn’t introduced me to boks of Nigel tranter I would never have discovered many things about Scot’s history
Man’s inhumanity to man at its finest with cruelty and greed being at the fore. Thank you for sharing your stories, Bruce 🌞
My pleasure
The incredibly cruel things that humans will do to other humans never ceases to amaze 😢
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Man’s inhumanity to man is inscrutable, indeed.
And all for money 💰 nothings changed
You are doing very important work. Thank you again.
Sad how we treat each other! If only we can learn from history maybe we be better! Thank you for the lesson Bruce
You do tell a tale well, Sir.
Thank you kindly
These special men need to be remembered. Thank you Bruce.
Nothing would surprise me anymore. We are living through times just now. I never thought I would see. From foodbanks to people thrown aside. Humanity seems along way off even today.
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Makes me wonder how generations to come will look at us. Did we stand back and do nothing. ? Or.
What an amazing story. Thank you, Bruce.
Glad you enjoyed it
Another thought-provoking story Bruce - thank you! The things people do and the divides over seemingly small differences in beliefs never ceases to amaze me. For many years, all across the UK there are these stories of inhumanity because "that guy doesn't believe exactly the same as I". I wonder how much of that was really the case, or if much was a cover to fuel the wider agenda of a few?
I read about this in the Covenanter Stories book. I must say: it wasn't an easy read. Freedom of speech and opinion are so important to the development of the human race. It truly is unfathomable: how far the cruelty will go over contrasting belief systems 😢
Aye, madness
Which is still being suppressed and crushed in this day and age.
@@Taocat1 you're not wrong there
When I was at school in Edinburgh, we studied the Russian Revolution, but absolutely nothing about the history of Scotland or even the UK. Bruce, your videos are bringing a whole new perspective that enables me to understand how my home country developed. Thanks.
Brilliant
The way they died was very similar to the ss londonderry that was on the way to the clyde and Liverpool. The crew battened down the hatches when it left sligo and when it docked in derry 72 where dead.
There is a song on here on YT , Covenanter soldier , not sure who sung it , many Covenanter prisoners were sent as slaves to West Indies , cruel times 😮
Lucy Frazer, Tory MP, joked about this in the house of commons, and her Tory buddies all laughed
Fascinating and quite horrifying. Really appreciate how you highlight and tell these stories.
You've prompted a memory of learning about the Covenanters when I was growing up in Lanarkshire (now South Lanarks.). I didn't know about the monument in Orkney though. Thanks Bruce
Geez that’s a sad story. Us humans are so evil.
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Excellent story as always, Bruce! And again, you have pointed out man's greated failure: the one creature on the planet that can think of compassion for all living things can actually think of our own as cargo! The idea that a human life is worthless unless it is delivered into servitude or dead because you have different beliefs is absurd! I am thankful that there is a monument in Orkney. It's not only a commemorative statue to those who died or lived, it's proof set in stone that we can realize our mistakes and correct them. Living in America, the country that set out to prove it could be done, we have failed and admitted our mistakes several times over. We have worked to correct them as well as remember not to make these mistakes again. I pray that the mistakes we are now making, as well as those who make them the world over, are corrected before we have to to raise monuments to the dead yet again. We must learn to learn from history, not put it on the back burner of school studies! You Bruce, are living proof that it can be taught correctly!
As expected, you delivered an interesting bit of history. Thank you and indeed these men need to be remembered.
Just what I needed on a Saturday morning "in the meantime, let me tell you a story". Me n the wee dug are snuggled in listening now 🏴
I was doing some family history and had just watched several videos on Orkney and the game of Ba, traditions and History of this area. My family, or some, are from these parts while others are part of William Sinclair and Picts. Good vid Bruce!!!
😢 what a sad story Bruce. Thankyou for sharing. When I get to Orkney again I will add this to the list of places to visit.
Please do!
Thanks for sharing another incredible video
Our pleasure!
Well presented again Bruce! The story is beyond shocking!
Thank you Bruce 😞
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I had never heard this story. It was fascinating to learn about it. Thank, you, Sir
My pleasure
why do people say you are the nationality you speak? so does that mean we are all English?
I am not a fan of Covenanters. However, there is no excuse of any sort for treating those men in that way.
As always thank you. The truth is always stranger than fiction. When will it end is what I'd like to know .
Another great story Bruce, thank you. I remember seeing the monument as a young lad on holiday at his great grandmother in Deerness. Now I know the history behind it - thank you.
Oh Bruce Damn I love your car and that was a sweet drive. Thank you.
I thought I knew a reasonable amount about the Covenanters, but this was a totally new and very sad tale to me.
Such a very sad tale,very well told indeed. Those were different time,life then seemed to have little value,those and even later were the years when you could hand for stealing a loaf of bread or watch without pity as peasants died when the potato crops failed and has Humanity learnt anything since ? Sadly no how many time in recent wars have prisoners been allowed to die of the cold or from hunger, too many.
Bruce your description evokes sadness and pity, if only World leaders could appreciate the same emotions.
Was really looking forward to the Orkney videos coming out. Hope you had a great time up here (having to climb up and down the stairs in the Phoenix like a beleaguered mountain goat aside...)!
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Another fantastic video Bruce! Excited to see your show today!
Sad as it all is, I think the answer to your final question is answered in the aftermath of (amongst others) the battle of Philiphaugh, just another example ‘ of man’s blind indifference to his fellow man’.
Gutted I missed your show, so nice seeing someone cover the local area, you should come up and visit again
I'm sure I will
Thank you Bruce. I knew nothing about the covenanters before your channel.
Delighted to help
thank you for another lovely and informative video Bruce :D I like the shot of you getting your swampers on to go roam amongst the green. It makes that over head shot of you approaching the gate even more of a treat. Also: so much cruelty, but I am sincerely grateful for the opportunity you give me every video to learn. History should not be forgotten. Your "nonsequentional environmental" story telling is top notch especially here.
What happened to the Covenanters who survived?
What happened to the captain? Surely the ordinary people were horrified by what he did and many sought revenge?🤔
Great story and monument thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
I’ll bet the captain got away with this murder. May his soul burn in hell.
What a story, hard to believe that people can be so cruel to each other
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Like so many have already said.. very sad, but so well told! And I just have to add one totally unrelated comment... I love, loVE, LOVE your vehicle!!!! 🚙💕
😂I think a replacement is due
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Oh no way.. I love that car!! 🤗💕
Spoiler:
The monument in question at Deerness in Orkney is to the 200 Covenanters, taken prisoner at Bothwell Bridge, who were sentenced to transportation for life but who died in the Crown of London shipwreck on 10 December 1679.
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I love your new minivan.
... 'nother brilliant presentation😎👌
Hollywood always paints the picture playing the Nation besieged and battered by the South...
Then there's reality - 'course, even Culloden (twice as many fighting in opposition to fellow Scots, albeit political adversaries, then ever with)
Talk of Orkney, I remember seeing a program years ago staged up there, where a group of the descendants of many an Orcadian who'd left home for work in the far north (Hudsons Bay Co.) had returned 'home' to have a go, all playing their fiddles with the local musicians.
They were all Indigenous🇨🇦 men 😊
Btw, talk of stereotypical unostentatious Presbyterian modesty, John A MacDonald was laid to rest in a cemetery on the outskirts of Kingston Ontario...
You'd walk right past without hardly ever noticing it🤣
(No mount Rushmores around here)
🤔... he may have actually been an Episcopalian, come to think of it...! 😅
Superb anyway, Bruce😎👍
My family first began as the House Of Rheged.
-Amber Thompson
A'reyt Bruce. Another interesting yet sad tale that is not something you would be likely to hear of down here in England. Beautiful locations though, as always.
As always
I love your knowledge and videos! You are so appreciated!!! #believeitanditwilbe 🙏🏻🕊️♥️🌹📿🎶♾️👑👑
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I saw you walking past Lidl while I was in the van, had to do a comedic double take!
James Montgomery Statue - this might be of interest - since you were in Irvine, there is a statue in Sheffield Cathedral about Irvine born (he was a hymn writer and poet)
The name of the Female Saltcoats sea captain was Miss Betsy Miller
Dunno if you know about them, but it might be interesting for you to take a look at Gaelic speaking Black people. I recently re-read Kipling's Captains Courageous and was made curious by the Black cook, who natively spoke Gaelic, and the Black Gaelic speaking fishing fleet. I did find a short, not much to it, article in The Scotsman but nothing about the fishermen who may have influenced, or informed Kipling.
Scotland's most unsung victims. I love your videos on the covenanters. The Charles' really wore the boot of a Roman Emperor well... Nero
When a man’s life is reduced to only be an insurance claim as a piece of cargo. A disgraceful waste of human life.
Those poor souls didn't deserve that fate.
What a grimly depressing tale of tragedy, greed and inhumanity. All for the sake of a foreign monarch and the invisible sky wizard.
Indeed
49, survived? How horrific!
More Orkney, please!
As soon as you send the travel budget I'll be there
A few years ago, i took the children to walk there,managed to lose the path, and tried to find a shortcut and spent a couple of hour wandering back to the car. Its a cold and bleak place on the wrong day which suits the tale. Thanks for your work
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My wife (the minister) and I came to see you in Irvine last night. Loved the show. Great laugh and interesting history too.
Should we have been sat at home watching the rugby rather than driving through the floods? Maybe. But it definitely wouldn't have been such a great night!
Cheers for that!
Paul & Kristina
Ah brilliant. That was a lovely wee addition to the night having your missus involved
Having heard the story of the covenanters being drowned on their way to a life of slavery before, I did not know there was a monument to mark the tragedy. Such a shame that people suffered because essentially they disagreed with the monarch. That Stuart mob have a lot to answer for. Thank you for another great video. 👍❤️
Aye the mob that followed them had a lot to answer for as well. Folk eh?
If you come to Nova Scotia as planned there is loads of Scottish History there, Cape Breton has a very strong Scottish presence you should visit the Gaelic College there and do some talks there too. Being ex Pats my wife and I love to come and see you in a couple of venues as you have a great knowledge of Scottish history and the ‘craic’ will be great to hear.
Gigs booked in New Glasgow, Annapolis and Halifax
The Captain should have been tried and condemned to a special cell in a sailing ship till he died.
Unbelievable cruelty.
Wow been round the graveyard in Edinburgh a few times. Didn’t know this story.
Every day's a school day
I feel Scotland is one of the most beautiful countries I have ever been to
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Besides bagpipes, could you do another video on Scottish instruments?
Do you know if the captain was charged with murder?
Sorry, I didn’t see your Canadian show dates. Did I miss them on your page somehow?
And Robert Burns has a beautiful statue near Temple gardens near Temple tube station on the Thames in London
How sad...🇨🇦
I know. Don't worry the live Scottish stand up show that I'm bringing to Canada in 2024 will be much cheerier Here's the info 😜www.brucefummey.co.uk/shows.aspx
Oh my goodness my brother and grandfather were William Patterson’s. What a horrific tale it was murder.
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you must come to Fergus Ontario during the largest games and dance festival in Canada. You would do great
I'm coming there, but not during the games. I'm coming at the end of June
Live shows in Canada in 2024. Shows in Halifax, Annapolis, New Glasgow, Moncton, Montreal, Perth , Ottawa, Toronto, Fergus, Seaforth, Calgary, Vancouver and Victoria. Most of the details are here www.brucefummey.co.uk/shows.aspx
When will your Canadian Tour dates and locations be uploaded.
As soon as I can get ticket links from venues. I have dates booked in for Halifax, New Glasgow, Toronto, Ottawa, Perth On, Montreal, Fergus and Calgary at the moment
Shooda been there.
Another sad story about the cruelty humans inflict on each other in the name of religion, amongst other things.
Unlike most people when Greyfriars church comes up in anything my first thought is Colin MacLaurin is buried there. Although I can't remember what The Maclaurin series does after 50 years.
😱 they really use those stinky 🌲 for a “better smells than”??? Of all the better smells in Scotland people still use those stinky smells? Yes I do also love Ur posts. Please keep doing what you’re doing because live for your posts
i hope the visit sparked enough interest for a return visit but i would suggest two, summer and winter, come summer and catch that perfect nigh when its flat calm and the dark doesnt really come, then come winter and see mother venting and see why we have some of the shittiest waters in the world
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I am sympathetic to the jacobites. My ancestor was the John Thompson. If the jacobites would have won then my ancestor was promised by Bonnie Prince Charlie James Stauart that John would rule as king over Wales, Scotland and all ofIisland Of Mann and Ireland. In fact my ancestry also traces back to both King Richard 3rd and Robert the Bruce. I am related To John Thompson who would travel with king Bruce ii to Ireland as well.
I am very much part of Clans Thompson, McAlpine, Macduff, Macbeth, Donald, Bruce, Black, Mcgregor, Lamont, Mackintosh, Macthomas, Macleod, and Maclean. I have watched your channel since your first video. I seen you do stand up comedy and I have loved both.
-Amber Thompson
Hey, just saw you Orkney how much are staying about 2 miles from the covenanters monument…
I filmed in Orkney a couple of weeks back and did a live show in Pickaquoy
Where can we find a list of your dates in murky old England? I only see Scots dates on that link.
Hopefully London and Corhy
Many and sharp the numerous ills
Inwoven with our frame;
More pointed still, we make ourselves
Regret, remorse and shame;
And man, whose heaven-erected face
The smiles of love adorn,
Man's inhumanity to man,
Makes countless thousands mourn.
Aye the words of a wordsmith right enough
Thanks again Brucie fella Coyp and lay off the fifers seriously tho great vid as always
Did I slag the Fifers in this one?
@@ScotlandHistoryTours no you didn’t but I was autopilot
Was the captain punished at all?
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But what about the bloody captain?! Was he charged in any of those deaths?
I don't know. But I am going to guess no. Just as it is today, life was cheap.
See you in Irvine tonight Bruce when " You can tell me a story!"
Wohooo
it was sort of a scottish civel war as well
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Is that the antrax island? 😮
That island is on the west coast.....
@@JamesBarometer-jv9kk did England have an urge to test anything else, since?
Greed rules life.
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Were there any who got away/survived? What's their story?
49 different stories
stuff like this is why I don't watch horror movies, reality is messed up enough
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Do you know much about Pictavia
I don't know much about much
Canada 2024? I do hope there's a stop in New Brunswick!
Moncton
Here's the ticket link for Moncton. I think tickets go live on 2nd November capitol.nb.ca/en/bruce-fummey
Man cannot live by bread alone!
Ye need filling in a sandwich
Maybe beer....maybe 🍺!!