@@JaneSt.Valentine I recognized him too the only problem was that I had forgotten his Fresh Prince of Bel-Air character's name because I haven't watched Fresh Prince of Bel-Air since 2012 and I'd only seen this long after that year.
He's a brilliant Doctor. I sadly dissed him at the time but as I've got older I realised the massive nuances in his performance. He is one of the great Doctors.
It was very easy to be critical of 6th and 7th at the time seeing as the show itself was essentially going down the toilet. Now that time has passed, I feel people can really appreciate Colin and Sylvester without that stigma hanging over the show. They were both great - just a shame that so much was holding their respective eras back.
All shows go through phases like that, they have those episodes that, at the time, we don't appreciate, that a lot of the subtleties and subject matter were written off as nonsense, but later can find the depth in them. Doctor Who was going through a phase at the time, where it was dismissed because the studio and some of the audience were showing fatigue, only to later revisit them and start seeing interesting ideas within it. This is probably one of the earlier episodes where we see the Doctor as being a lot deeper, more calculating, starting to wonder to himself how small things make such big impact.
I'm totally in the same boat as you. I did not like his Doctor at all as a kid, but as an adult I totally get him and his era. I think he was the first Doctor who wasn't actually meant for kids.
Nice Five-ish Doctors reference that in itself is a reference to this video/scene which you are commenting on with a reference to a reference of a reference..............
This is McCoy’s “do I have the right?” moment. The Doctor has arrived on Earth at the start of this story already knowing what he’s going to do but it’s bothering him a bit. He tries to drop in on an old friend (the absent Harry, presumably someone the Hartnell Doctor would have a cuppa and a chat with once in a while), but ends up using this random guy as a sounding board instead, like he just wants a human perspective. All this talk of ripples and sugar is the doctor going “I’m going to blow up Skaro. Is that something I should be doing? what are the consequences of such an act?” It’s so understated and so unlike anything the show had done before or since. I love that the production team was able to make such a subtle scene which is so effective even decades later.
I just got a mental picture of the Tardis Materializing into a random park or forest clearing. Then Jazz getting tossed from it. With either Capaldi, Chris, David or Matt saying "Never mess with time again."
For some reason the ratings went down at that point and people assume he was bad because of this without actually watching his stories which annoys me.
It's just sometimes a bit hard to care about this Doctor, especially at first, what with all that competition from Troughton, Pertwee, and Tom Baker. Of course, this isn't to say I dislike him; quite the contrary! His Doctor was different, and dark. The thing about some Whovians is that details that fly over most heads get agonized over and criticized for, and Doctors who just don't make you fall completely in love with them at first go are hated.
I dunno, he's one of my favourites especially after this story. There are a couple of stories I like in his first season but that's less about him, more about the interesting/cheesy monsters and villains.
I like a lot of the stories, especially the Curse of Fenric and Survival, but a lot of his stories took the weirdness factor to an extreme. I found the characters in general much stronger than the plots. And this is me watching them years later... and there was no way around that for me since I was born the year after Classic Who got cancelled. ;)
I love watching this clip and the "Do I Have the Right?" moment in Genesis of the Daleks. To me, it seems like the Doctor is having the same argument with himself and coming to a different conclusion. "Do I have the right to act?" vs. "Do I have the right to not act?"
Love these little quiet moments and wish they'd come back. Doesn't have to be all bombastic action and breakneck storytelling. Slow down, stop, look, and listen. You're missing so much around you.
@@paddystrongjaw9995 And in the newer series they can't slow down and calm down because then you'd start to think about how absolutely nothing makes sense. At all.
+maverick1520 Honestly, knowing the reputation this story has, now I've seen it, this story really is...UNDERRATED! Its my personal favourite Dalek story and I've seen all of them in the classic show (with the exception of those lost and Resurrection Of The Daleks).
@@meris8486 to me that showed the early days of series 26 showing the dark manipulative side of the 7th doctor, which is why I love him, he's so kind at moments but then he just manipulates people, series 27 would've been so good!
@@tardisglitch547 In truth it's Curse Of Fenric and Death In The Family that has everything I love about the Seventh Doctor. That scene where he tears apart Ace may be one the darkest but most brilliant scenes in the show.
"IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIn West Citadel-ia, born and raised, On Gallifrey is where I spent most of my days. Chilling out maxin' Relaxin' all cool, and doing some science outside of my school, when a couple of Timelords, who were up to no good, started making capsules in my neighborhood. I stole one little TARDIS and The Timelords got scared, they said "You're being exiled to earth and with out knowledge of being able to fly the TARDIS." ...What?
E-SPACE Productions Now this is the Story all about how my timelines got all flipped all wibbly wobbly, and I’d like to take a minute, so just hop in the TARDIS, I’ll tell how I became the Fresh Doctor of Kasterborous.
This was such a great scene. I mean to the overall story, what does this really have to do with anything? Nothing. But in terms of character development it tells so much about both characters and the clerk is only there for a single scene. By the way, its because of this story that Sylvester McCoy is now in my Top 5 Doctors, knocking Peter Davison off that podium.
Actually I might be that he's considering that if he never stole the Hand of Omega from Gallifrey when he stole the TARDIS or even if he never stole the TARDIS none of this would happen
I love the café servers point of life "Lifes like that, just got to get on with it". Nice contrast to the doctors angst at his status and what his decisions could do.
I never never never understood the dissatisfaction people had with him in the role. McCoy was soooo good. One of my favorite doctors and I've seen em all and lll stand by that
Yes, the Doctor - in this seemingly 'nice' chat with a stranger - is self-debating his upcoming decision to commit Dalek Genocide. The 7th Doctor after all these years is still the darkest Doctor in Who history, which makes him one of the most intriguing. He can be affable and nice, but 'nice' isn't the same as 'good' - he often made decisions that were very, very unkind - but ultimately for the cause of 'good'.
@@CrazyHorseTheSiouxW4rrior dude, at the end of this exact story the Doctor convinces a Dalek to kill itself AFTER he tricks Davros into blowing Skaro.
@@CrazyHorseTheSiouxW4rrior that wasn’t him being dark if I’m being honest, that was just the huge amount of grief, anger and resentment caused by the Time War.
I like this scene cause it's slow paced youike in the new who where after 30 seconds the doctor springs into action going " I HAVE A PLAN! QUICKLY CLARA WE ONLY HAVE 10 MINS OF RUN TIME LEFT!!" which "the girl who died" was a perfect example
@@dwtube7895 NuWho is no different to be honest. It has some serious rushed endings especially when its a one part story and the ending of this one was perfect.
I watched this story without realising this classic speech was in it, just before seeing Sylvester at MCM in London. Man did it feel good to do my homework before meeting the legend who said the phrase!
He seemed to actually be interested in what the Doctor was saying to be honest. He was making some interesting points. He clearly saw the Doctor was struggling with some big decision and tried to offer his best advice which was just to get on with it. Obviously, he wasn't aware of the sheer scale of his decision though.
@ Duane Lassiter I showed this to my brother in law, when it came to this scene his jaw dropped and said "Its the Butler.." I got smug and said "yes it is"
This scene is one of my favorite scenes in Doctor.Who ever! It's so brilliantly written, the dialogue is so current, and make so much sense to me what these two characters are talking about. the whole 'what if' thing, works really well. I love it.
It just occured to me that this is the dramatic equivalent of the mustard-argument that Abbott & Costello did. Quite fitting really, for the seemingly clownish 7 to put a profound spin on an old vaudeville routine.
I used this clip with my mate who recently had a family loss. I chatted abt work n he abt his stuff i said lifes like that. Best just to get on with it. And I sent the clip. But thats what i told him. Lifes like that.its better to just get on with it
This is one of the finest pieces of dialogue ever in Doctor Who imo. I would love to Aaronovitch come back to write another story and while it's incredibly unlikely I would love to see a prequel to battlefield.
"What if I could contrrrol people's tastebuds? What if I decided that no-one would take sugar?" "But people do take sugar." "Yes, but what if they didn't?" "But I just told you, they do." "Imagine that they didn't. How would things change?" "I don't understand the question."
I kinda want Joseph Marcell to be the next Doctor. Guy was able to in one small role, give the Doctor good advice. If he can give advice to a conflicted Time Lord imagine how he'd do as said time lord. Plus if Fresh Prince is anything to go by, the man is a master of sass. Something all Doctors have in common.
It's an unfortunate product of the time. Season 24 was a terribly poor introduction for a new Doctor at a point where the show was on its last legs and spiralling down a flight of timey-wimey stairs. It didn't help that the budget was knackered and they had no real script to compensate for Baker's firing, so McCoy was lampooned into being a comedic buffoon to make up for it. Once they got the new writers in and McCoy's advocating for a darker and more mysterious Doctor was heard, we started to ebb towards the 'chess-master' in season 25 (this season) before going full-on awesome mode in Season 26. Unfortunately, the damage was already done - most long-term fans had switched off, with only a few curious people tuning in before the inevitable axing. Shame, because they missed out on arguably the best ever season of classic who, which ironically served as the biggest inspiration for what is now NewWho (no, not the TV movie).
I wonder how people can look at this story, this scene, and not understand that if this was a moment in a 13th Doctor episode, people would be going on and on endlessly about how the show has become "too political".
Hell, can you imagine if any recent incarnation had the "No Coloureds" sign from earlier in this episode? BBC would be melting under the heat of social media flames.
The problem with 13's run isn't that it's too political, at least not in narrative terms. Doctor Who has been pretty left wing political for a lot of it's run time, and IMHO Chibnall's series' haven't pushed that envelope all that much further than we've seen often before. Instead they suffer from the same problem the series has been failing to address (with a few notable exceptions) since series 6 - poor scripts. I think the two issues get conflated because when the political side becomes more obvious AND the scripts aren't cutting it, people tend to assume that the former is being pushed at the expense of the latter.
It's because most people who say stuff like that aren't really fans and haven't watched the old stuff. The rest grew up with it so its normal for them as everything is normal for a child.
@@lapelcelery42 One could argue that in some cases, the Chibnall era actually pushed the show to the right (See "Kerblam" and its suspiciously saintly portrayal of an Amazon-like company)
This was the very first episode of the poster I watched and I liked him right from the very beginning so now i’ve got every single episode of Sylvester and I think remembrance of the Daleks was probably my top number one by far but anything to do with the daleks got to be
Toberman's my favourite character in Tomb, even after partial conversion, he kept in touch with his humanity and his care for Kaftan, who was murdered in front of him. So stoic, yet so caring, and an absolute badass to boot.
"If people didn't sell sugar, I'd probably be a butler in California...life's like that"
...THAT'S where I recognised him from!
More like "If this role wasnt a one episode part I might not have moved to America looking for new opportunities...."
Geoffrey!
@@JaneSt.Valentine I recognized him too the only problem was that I had forgotten his Fresh Prince of Bel-Air character's name because I haven't watched Fresh Prince of Bel-Air since 2012 and I'd only seen this long after that year.
He's a brilliant Doctor. I sadly dissed him at the time but as I've got older I realised the massive nuances in his performance. He is one of the great Doctors.
It was very easy to be critical of 6th and 7th at the time seeing as the show itself was essentially going down the toilet. Now that time has passed, I feel people can really appreciate Colin and Sylvester without that stigma hanging over the show. They were both great - just a shame that so much was holding their respective eras back.
@freddie Underground Shqiptar I imagine them doing a disstrack back them about Sylvester
All shows go through phases like that, they have those episodes that, at the time, we don't appreciate, that a lot of the subtleties and subject matter were written off as nonsense, but later can find the depth in them. Doctor Who was going through a phase at the time, where it was dismissed because the studio and some of the audience were showing fatigue, only to later revisit them and start seeing interesting ideas within it.
This is probably one of the earlier episodes where we see the Doctor as being a lot deeper, more calculating, starting to wonder to himself how small things make such big impact.
I'm totally in the same boat as you. I did not like his Doctor at all as a kid, but as an adult I totally get him and his era. I think he was the first Doctor who wasn't actually meant for kids.
@@DemetriusSorvo He was the first modern Doctor. Not Ecclestone. McCoy was the first.
"Every great decision creates ripples"
"In your tea?"
Nice Five-ish Doctors reference that in itself is a reference to this video/scene which you are commenting on with a reference to a reference of a reference..............
@@SonicTimewarp Life's like that, best thing is just to get on with it
This is McCoy’s “do I have the right?” moment. The Doctor has arrived on Earth at the start of this story already knowing what he’s going to do but it’s bothering him a bit. He tries to drop in on an old friend (the absent Harry, presumably someone the Hartnell Doctor would have a cuppa and a chat with once in a while), but ends up using this random guy as a sounding board instead, like he just wants a human perspective. All this talk of ripples and sugar is the doctor going “I’m going to blow up Skaro. Is that something I should be doing? what are the consequences of such an act?” It’s so understated and so unlike anything the show had done before or since. I love that the production team was able to make such a subtle scene which is so effective even decades later.
The Doctor contemplates his next move in the upcoming Time War.
Geoffrey kicks his ass into action.
"Of course, it'll be twins...' I love these nuances! I will defend 7 until my last breath.
Later in the episode, Uncle Phil tosses Jazz out of the Tardis
If only.
thatll be classic! and what about hilary? i wouldnt trust her going into the doctors wardrobe haha
I just got a mental picture of the Tardis Materializing into a random park or forest clearing. Then Jazz getting tossed from it. With either Capaldi, Chris, David or Matt saying "Never mess with time again."
I get the joke.
@@JayMauLIVE1 She'd either think the Rainbow trench coat would be gaudy or would want it herself.
This, along with Ace finding the NO COLOUREDS sign in the house, were my favorite scenes in these episodes.
Seriously, why do people hate McCoy? Certainly one of the best doctors and his stories after Season 24 were brilliant.
For some reason the ratings went down at that point and people assume he was bad because of this without actually watching his stories which annoys me.
It's just sometimes a bit hard to care about this Doctor, especially at first, what with all that competition from Troughton, Pertwee, and Tom Baker. Of course, this isn't to say I dislike him; quite the contrary! His Doctor was different, and dark. The thing about some Whovians is that details that fly over most heads get agonized over and criticized for, and Doctors who just don't make you fall completely in love with them at first go are hated.
I dunno, he's one of my favourites especially after this story.
There are a couple of stories I like in his first season but that's less about him, more about the interesting/cheesy monsters and villains.
He was great, Ace was great, and Remembrance of the Daleks was great, but beyond that there is nothing significantly good about Doctor Who after 1984.
I like a lot of the stories, especially the Curse of Fenric and Survival, but a lot of his stories took the weirdness factor to an extreme. I found the characters in general much stronger than the plots.
And this is me watching them years later... and there was no way around that for me since I was born the year after Classic Who got cancelled. ;)
I love watching this clip and the "Do I Have the Right?" moment in Genesis of the Daleks. To me, it seems like the Doctor is having the same argument with himself and coming to a different conclusion. "Do I have the right to act?" vs. "Do I have the right to not act?"
Love these little quiet moments and wish they'd come back. Doesn't have to be all bombastic action and breakneck storytelling.
Slow down, stop, look, and listen. You're missing so much around you.
A big part for so much of these quite dialogue heavy moments in classic who is because of the need for padding.
@@paddystrongjaw9995 That's true, though this scene being dialogue heavy helped it a ton imo.
@@paddystrongjaw9995 And in the newer series they can't slow down and calm down because then you'd start to think about how absolutely nothing makes sense. At all.
just saw this story, one word.... OUTSTANDING
+maverick1520 Honestly, knowing the reputation this story has, now I've seen it, this story really is...UNDERRATED! Its my personal favourite Dalek story and I've seen all of them in the classic show (with the exception of those lost and Resurrection Of The Daleks).
+Morbius Fitzgerald I have seen Resurrection of the Daleks, it's... pretty good, kinda rush but not as bad as it could have been.
It's very good. McCoy's era was lukewarm at best but he had a few really good serials.
No way. Geoffrey was in Doctor Who? No wonder no one messes with him. The guy served Tea to a Time Lord.
I can't believe more people haven't noticed that!
ah, so he is Geoffrey. yeah, i noticed him immediately.
He had to take a job in a cafe after the marathon incident, I think the Doctor pulled some strings to get him in with the Banks family…
@@Dugout_Gaming Well the guy did give 7 good advice.
And this is why the Seventh is my favorite Doctor.
Same here.
Watching him convince a Dalek to kill itself is why he's my favourite
@@meris8486 to me that showed the early days of series 26 showing the dark manipulative side of the 7th doctor, which is why I love him, he's so kind at moments but then he just manipulates people, series 27 would've been so good!
@@tardisglitch547
In truth it's Curse Of Fenric and Death In The Family that has everything I love about the Seventh Doctor. That scene where he tears apart Ace may be one the darkest but most brilliant scenes in the show.
God, this story was brilliant.
Probably my favorite classic who story, and one of my favorites of all time.
To think this and Silver Nemesis are in the same season is unreal
Probably one of the most influential TV discussions of my childhood.
"IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIn West Citadel-ia, born and raised, On Gallifrey is where I spent most of my days. Chilling out maxin' Relaxin' all cool, and doing some science outside of my school, when a couple of Timelords, who were up to no good, started making capsules in my neighborhood. I stole one little TARDIS and The Timelords got scared, they said "You're being exiled to earth and with out knowledge of being able to fly the TARDIS."
...What?
I understood that reference.
+OrangeKyle91 Naah?
The Fresh Doctor of Kasterborous.
E-SPACE Productions Now this is the Story all about how my timelines got all flipped all wibbly wobbly, and I’d like to take a minute, so just hop in the TARDIS, I’ll tell how I became the Fresh Doctor of Kasterborous.
I met Sylvester McCoy at a convention today in Connecticut IT WAS AMAZINGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Everything about this scene is just perfect.
This was such a great scene. I mean to the overall story, what does this really have to do with anything? Nothing. But in terms of character development it tells so much about both characters and the clerk is only there for a single scene.
By the way, its because of this story that Sylvester McCoy is now in my Top 5 Doctors, knocking Peter Davison off that podium.
Actually I might be that he's considering that if he never stole the Hand of Omega from Gallifrey when he stole the TARDIS or even if he never stole the TARDIS none of this would happen
+Morbius Fitzgerald He was debating if it's ok to blow up Skaro.
He's in mine because of "the curse of fenric" and "survival". This story did help though.
Who are the other four in your top five?
5) 2/ war
4) 9
3) 12
2) 7
1) 8
I love the café servers point of life "Lifes like that, just got to get on with it". Nice contrast to the doctors angst at his status and what his decisions could do.
And the night cafe man will never know his words greenlit the destruction of an entire species.
Life's like that. Best thing is just to get on with it. Haha lol love it
One of many reasons I love classic Doctor Who. One of my favorite scenes of Doctor Who ever :D
A great bit of philosophical reflection upon the world, the universe and the nature of life.
I never never never understood the dissatisfaction people had with him in the role. McCoy was soooo good. One of my favorite doctors and I've seen em all and lll stand by that
He's actually talking about the genocide of the Daleks
Yes, the Doctor - in this seemingly 'nice' chat with a stranger - is self-debating his upcoming decision to commit Dalek Genocide. The 7th Doctor after all these years is still the darkest Doctor in Who history, which makes him one of the most intriguing. He can be affable and nice, but 'nice' isn't the same as 'good' - he often made decisions that were very, very unkind - but ultimately for the cause of 'good'.
It's a sort of Gethsemane moment... "I'm I really sure I'm doing the right thing when the secindary and tertiary effects are so unknowable?"
@@RopeDrink nah the 9th Doctor is the darkest because of that episode where he met Rusty he was going to kill him but Rose stopped him
@@CrazyHorseTheSiouxW4rrior dude, at the end of this exact story the Doctor convinces a Dalek to kill itself AFTER he tricks Davros into blowing Skaro.
@@CrazyHorseTheSiouxW4rrior that wasn’t him being dark if I’m being honest, that was just the huge amount of grief, anger and resentment caused by the Time War.
*The Doctor makes a philosophical speech about the consequences of decision making*
Man: *Just get on with it and decide if you want sugar*
Hilary: "Jeffery I need you!"
Jeffrey: "Oh lord how I miss the The Doctor..."
Now let me tell you a story all about how a prince came to my former place of employment and got my life turned upside-down...
No.
tell
One of the great philosophical moments from the series.
Love this story and McCoy's Doctor.
The seventh Doctor was amazing!
The Seventh Doctor reflects my personality on a depressing day.
Capaldi's doctor takes this advice to heart, I see.
Definitely one of the Seventh Doctor's best moments.
I like this scene cause it's slow paced youike in the new who where after 30 seconds the doctor springs into action going " I HAVE A PLAN! QUICKLY CLARA WE ONLY HAVE 10 MINS OF RUN TIME LEFT!!" which "the girl who died" was a perfect example
Yes, slow is great for a show like this.
thats only really in SM who. RTD had slow character building scenes like this all the time.
JamesPlaysGames95 Yes we live in short attention span society and I like this scene too. 👍
I feel like many of the endings of Classic Who stories are rushed, however. Idk if that’s just me.
@@dwtube7895 NuWho is no different to be honest. It has some serious rushed endings especially when its a one part story and the ending of this one was perfect.
I watched this story without realising this classic speech was in it, just before seeing Sylvester at MCM in London.
Man did it feel good to do my homework before meeting the legend who said the phrase!
I bet the dude regretted offering him sugar lol.
Nah
He seemed to actually be interested in what the Doctor was saying to be honest. He was making some interesting points. He clearly saw the Doctor was struggling with some big decision and tried to offer his best advice which was just to get on with it. Obviously, he wasn't aware of the sheer scale of his decision though.
Wild when you realize that in this scene he's pondering one of the decisions that leads to the Last Great Time War.
My favourite classic doctor by far is this gem
wonderful scene , wonderful Doctor.
love this scene, I love how it was parodied in 'the five(ish) doctors' if you havent seen it, I suggest you do, it's fantastic :)
I do miss the times when writing like this could be seen on TV
They really took the writing up a gear for the 7th Doctor
McCoy gets better as you get older
The 7th Doctor is soo underrated
I love this scene
One of my favourite scenes from the original series.
@ Duane Lassiter
I showed this to my brother in law, when it came to this scene his jaw dropped and said "Its the Butler.." I got smug and said "yes it is"
This scene is one of my favorite scenes in Doctor.Who ever! It's so brilliantly written, the dialogue is so current, and make so much sense to me what these two characters are talking about. the whole 'what if' thing, works really well. I love it.
This may just be the wisest man in the entire history of Doctor Who; past, present, AND future.
Having listened to him in some Big Finish works, Sylvester McCoy is great as the Seventh Doctor.
"Sylvester, if you don't stop quoting yourself, I'll put you back on the plane myself"
"I think I got it a bit wrong, actually."
"Oh what's the use of a good quote if you can't misquote it?"
"Can I help you?"
"Could you make me a sandwich?"
"... No."
Nah knowing Geoffrey he'd put bread on top of his head and say "There, you're a sandwich."
It just occured to me that this is the dramatic equivalent of the mustard-argument that Abbott & Costello did. Quite fitting really, for the seemingly clownish 7 to put a profound spin on an old vaudeville routine.
I legitimately LOVE 7.
Favourite episode of the classic series and favourite doctor
I had this scene stuck in my head for a while i don't why but i do love this scene and Remmbrance of the Daleks 😊
I used this clip with my mate who recently had a family loss. I chatted abt work n he abt his stuff i said lifes like that. Best just to get on with it. And I sent the clip.
But thats what i told him. Lifes like that.its better to just get on with it
This is one of the finest pieces of dialogue ever in Doctor Who imo. I would love to Aaronovitch come back to write another story and while it's incredibly unlikely I would love to see a prequel to battlefield.
And that comes from a 17 year old guy that is a fan of both the classic and the modern equally and is a fan of every Doctor.
He did. And the writers, starting in this season, started turning the Doctor darker--closer to what we have today.
Wonderful stuff.
It's scenes like this that sets Rememberance apart from most other stories.
This might be my favourite scene in all of Doctor Who.
"hey G can you make me some tea?"
“nOh”
Lovely scene, lovely sentiment.
"What if I could contrrrol people's tastebuds? What if I decided that no-one would take sugar?"
"But people do take sugar."
"Yes, but what if they didn't?"
"But I just told you, they do."
"Imagine that they didn't. How would things change?"
"I don't understand the question."
I’ve said it before and I will say it again - every time Sylv takes his hat off he becomes one of the best Doctors of all.
As what David Collings would say, "The ends justify the means is that what you're saying?" - The Fathom Doctor (Doctor Who Unbound: Full Fathom Five)
I kinda want Joseph Marcell to be the next Doctor. Guy was able to in one small role, give the Doctor good advice. If he can give advice to a conflicted Time Lord imagine how he'd do as said time lord. Plus if Fresh Prince is anything to go by, the man is a master of sass. Something all Doctors have in common.
Remembrance is my favorite Dalek story.
I love the 7th Doctor. McCoy is fantastic, especially here in this scene
I can just picture this in fresh Prince of bell air
Moffat....the doctor can't just change time whenever he gets sad....CAUSE AND EFFECT!
PREACH
Finally! Someone who gets it!
Even before Fresh Prince, Geoffrey served tea to the Doctor :P
wow, McCoy had a heck of a deliver. He could easily recite poetry
Geoffey the Butler from FRESH PRINCE OF BEL AIR interacts with the Seventh Doctor.
Geoffrey from Fresh Prince in Doctor Who! amazing!
Grrrrrrrrr... It grates me how underrated McCoy is!
It's an unfortunate product of the time. Season 24 was a terribly poor introduction for a new Doctor at a point where the show was on its last legs and spiralling down a flight of timey-wimey stairs. It didn't help that the budget was knackered and they had no real script to compensate for Baker's firing, so McCoy was lampooned into being a comedic buffoon to make up for it.
Once they got the new writers in and McCoy's advocating for a darker and more mysterious Doctor was heard, we started to ebb towards the 'chess-master' in season 25 (this season) before going full-on awesome mode in Season 26. Unfortunately, the damage was already done - most long-term fans had switched off, with only a few curious people tuning in before the inevitable axing. Shame, because they missed out on arguably the best ever season of classic who, which ironically served as the biggest inspiration for what is now NewWho (no, not the TV movie).
This was my favourite scene
"Oooh! It's the guy who played the butler in that sit-com"
I wonder how people can look at this story, this scene, and not understand that if this was a moment in a 13th Doctor episode, people would be going on and on endlessly about how the show has become "too political".
Hell, can you imagine if any recent incarnation had the "No Coloureds" sign from earlier in this episode? BBC would be melting under the heat of social media flames.
The problem with 13's run isn't that it's too political, at least not in narrative terms. Doctor Who has been pretty left wing political for a lot of it's run time, and IMHO Chibnall's series' haven't pushed that envelope all that much further than we've seen often before. Instead they suffer from the same problem the series has been failing to address (with a few notable exceptions) since series 6 - poor scripts. I think the two issues get conflated because when the political side becomes more obvious AND the scripts aren't cutting it, people tend to assume that the former is being pushed at the expense of the latter.
It's because most people who say stuff like that aren't really fans and haven't watched the old stuff.
The rest grew up with it so its normal for them as everything is normal for a child.
@@lapelcelery42 One could argue that in some cases, the Chibnall era actually pushed the show to the right (See "Kerblam" and its suspiciously saintly portrayal of an Amazon-like company)
Oh my god, the butler from Fresh Prince. I'm dying!
It drove me crazy trying to figure out where I've seen this guy before
now I know, Fresh Prince
This was the very first episode of the poster I watched and I liked him right from the very beginning so now i’ve got every single episode of Sylvester and I think remembrance of the Daleks was probably my top number one by far but anything to do with the daleks got to be
But.... but.... That's the Fresh Prince butler ! Love him !
"Life's like dat best thing is just to get on with it"
Hillary: GEOFFREY! COME IN HERE I NEED YOU
I like it a lot too. Very inspiring.
This scene is rather chilling when you realize his actions in this episode probably set off the time war.
This was his way of pondering whether it was the right thing to do, and he got his answer. Best to just get on with it and nuke those suckers.
had no idea that Joseph Marcell was actually a British-Jamacian. Thought he was just good at accents on FPOB
Geoffrey form fresh prince of bel air he is my favourite character apart from Carlton banks
"FRESH! Tea" I see what you did there 😯
That retailer is the butler from Fresh Prince, I know it!
Now THIS! THIS is the seventh doctor at his finest.
You are exactly correct!
One of the few times you hear a doctor airs his worries to someone.
Toberman's my favourite character in Tomb, even after partial conversion, he kept in touch with his humanity and his care for Kaftan, who was murdered in front of him.
So stoic, yet so caring, and an absolute badass to boot.
It's fun showing Americans this scene.
Ahh some good writing finally.
McCoy makes me believe that the Doctor could in fact control whether homosapiens take a liking to sugar or not if he really wanted to.
I am sure the children will be along to enlighten us all about it in due course.