I’m just a DIY’er but I still can’t bring myself to buy any wrench set with skips. It’s why Tekton shines to me. I truly believe Craftsman would boost their sales significantly if they stopped skipping sizes.
This are Facom 440 rebrands, Stanley B&D loves to rebrand Facom products across their brands. MAC used to sell them under the "Precision torque" name. Now MAC no longer sell them and the name went to the Facom 440XL rebrand they now offer. The 440 are rebranded under Craftsman V, Usag 285. The V are slightly different as they don't have ASD, The others come with anti slip. If its confusing, yes Stanley is giant interconnected mess of a tool conglomerate. This aren not to be confused for the Facom 440XL, those are rebranded for MAC under Precision torque and Sidcrhome 440. Furthermore the Mac RBRT is rebranded to Facom under the 441OVG, USAG 285X and the anti slip design is applied to the Craftsman overdrive.
Great explanation. I left out most of that in the video as I was afraid it would take too long to explain but yes in short SB&D acquired Facom and MAC and then distributed their products within. 👍🏻
@@ThingsMen The V line has been on sale for at least 3 months now, most of the line is Facom/USAG rebrands. I think the line is a failure in the sales department. I'm assuming Stanley B&D is liquidating the line or something. I was able to acquire most of the line really cheaply, the quality of the tools is outstanding IMO. Craftsman need to revisit and revaluate the pricing/availability.
@@andrestnt yea I picked up some other V-line products at a great discount a while back. I have seen these wrenches fluctuate over the past couple years so I don’t imagine that will change. They Will be back at $39 soon enough. Agree that they are great quality Facom copies at great prices. 👍🏻
@@andrestntwhat I can’t figure out is why the SAE aren’t on sale if that’s the case Also, the Mac PT is longer…. By a not small amount. Lol But I’m pretty sure you know that.
@@gtcam723 Not everything is on sale. The current PT are the 440XL, yes long pattern. The original PT where the 440 with ASD, still sold under facom/usag. I explained that on the comment, Its confusing for sure. Its why you see comment of people mentioning the old MAC PT, then get confused by the current PT's. I'm assuming they made less SAE for the V-line, so that's probably why they aren't on sale. But the other SAE tools where on sale, so I'm not sure what going on there. regardless its a great time to buy the V line. i just acquired the full set of the sockets 3/8 , 1/4, deep/short, a 1/4 flex ratchet, metric hex sockets, the compact 3/8 tool kit, and the 3 in one ratchet screwdriver for around 150$. super please with the quality of the tools, need to buy the wrenches for sure, at 38$ is just dumb not to pick them up.
I had quite a few Mac tools when I worked as an auto mechanic. These wrenches are nice looking and I like the case layout. It's compact so it fits nicely in a portable tool kit or spread out it doesn't take up a lot of space in a drawer. As was the case with the old raised panel wrenches, these wrenches too are on the short side. I consider them to be standard length. I have 3 sets of combination wrenches. Long pattern, standard and stubby to fit different situations. The USAG version is more of a long pattern and less expensive than the Mac. I wish SB&D would do a better job with availability of the V Series. Neither my local Ace Hardware or Lowe's carry the V Series. Warranty is another issue as you can't just walk into Ace or Lowe's and exchange them. It has to be done on line.
All valid points. Yes they are shorter and would be more standard length. Keep your eyes peeled for my next wrench video. You might see USAG pop back up. 👍🏻
I have been disappointed in the new Craftsman tools that are made in China. These wrenches made in Taiwan look great and I would definitely purchase those. Thanks for the review.
The Mac though would be the Precision Torque with the mild anti slip design (not to be confused with the RBRT) at least as far as I know. I just wish the SAE would drop in price lol Also, I’m envious that you presently have time to wrench 😂 between work, my channel, and the garage project I might get to wrenching again this winter.
Correct. I caught that in my editing so hopefully you saw that. SAE will drop again shortly so don’t worry. It’s a tough balance for sure. However my focus is YT second behind my day job. 👍🏻
@@ThingsMen that’s pretty much me too right now. May well be on strike by the end of this upcoming week so, may have more free time soon. But yeah. Work, YT, Shop, other stuff. In that order.
They are really nice wrenches, especially for the price, but they are just to short for most automotive applications. I'm in love with the carrying case though!! I wish every wrench set came in a holder like that. Overall, its a really nice wrench set, but just too short. I have the usag 285X and the facom XXL sets. $40 is a steal though!
@@victorhoyt4352 yes they are a very a well crafted professional set. Their crutch is their length but honestly for basic automotive work and maintenance these are perfect. I’ll be doing a follow up vid on USAG very soon. 😉
USAG makes a set too...pretty much the same as the MAC Precision Torque..those Craftsman V-series are more like long Facom 440 wrenches because the open end is smooth jaws..USAG has the same jaws as MAC Precision Torque wrenches..
@@ThingsMen i have to look closer but it sure looks the same excepting the colors. Now the awful version is the one they use for the two styles black chrome wrenches. THOSE holders are just terrible comparatively. That red is striking.
theyre shorter than the macs, dont have the anti slip design and are slightly thinner. probably the best budget wrenches but definitely not quite the mac. i also bought the ratcheting style and the skips are atrocious but i like them more than gearwrench's style
I threw these in my cart to watch for the sale again. At $40, these look like a great set.
Yea totally worth it. It may take a little time but it will come back around. 👍🏻
I’m just a DIY’er but I still can’t bring myself to buy any wrench set with skips. It’s why Tekton shines to me. I truly believe Craftsman would boost their sales significantly if they stopped skipping sizes.
I get that however 9mm is virtually non existent so it won’t hurt you. 👍🏻
This are Facom 440 rebrands, Stanley B&D loves to rebrand Facom products across their brands. MAC used to sell them under the "Precision torque" name. Now MAC no longer sell them and the name went to the Facom 440XL rebrand they now offer. The 440 are rebranded under Craftsman V, Usag 285. The V are slightly different as they don't have ASD, The others come with anti slip. If its confusing, yes Stanley is giant interconnected mess of a tool conglomerate. This aren not to be confused for the Facom 440XL, those are rebranded for MAC under Precision torque and Sidcrhome 440. Furthermore the Mac RBRT is rebranded to Facom under the 441OVG, USAG 285X and the anti slip design is applied to the Craftsman overdrive.
Great explanation. I left out most of that in the video as I was afraid it would take too long to explain but yes in short SB&D acquired Facom and MAC and then distributed their products within. 👍🏻
@@ThingsMen The V line has been on sale for at least 3 months now, most of the line is Facom/USAG rebrands. I think the line is a failure in the sales department. I'm assuming Stanley B&D is liquidating the line or something. I was able to acquire most of the line really cheaply, the quality of the tools is outstanding IMO. Craftsman need to revisit and revaluate the pricing/availability.
@@andrestnt yea I picked up some other V-line products at a great discount a while back. I have seen these wrenches fluctuate over the past couple years so I don’t imagine that will change. They Will be back at $39 soon enough. Agree that they are great quality Facom copies at great prices. 👍🏻
@@andrestntwhat I can’t figure out is why the SAE aren’t on sale if that’s the case
Also, the Mac PT is longer…. By a not small amount. Lol But I’m pretty sure you know that.
@@gtcam723 Not everything is on sale. The current PT are the 440XL, yes long pattern. The original PT where the 440 with ASD, still sold under facom/usag. I explained that on the comment, Its confusing for sure. Its why you see comment of people mentioning the old MAC PT, then get confused by the current PT's. I'm assuming they made less SAE for the V-line, so that's probably why they aren't on sale. But the other SAE tools where on sale, so I'm not sure what going on there. regardless its a great time to buy the V line. i just acquired the full set of the sockets 3/8 , 1/4, deep/short, a 1/4 flex ratchet, metric hex sockets, the compact 3/8 tool kit, and the 3 in one ratchet screwdriver for around 150$. super please with the quality of the tools, need to buy the wrenches for sure, at 38$ is just dumb not to pick them up.
Just bought this set metric. Nice wrenches!
Yes I’m certain you will enjoy them. Too notch. 👍🏻
I picked the metric set up from Lowe's for $40. Figured a nice inexpensive set to throw in the trunk
Smart move. They are exceptional wrenches. 🔧
I had quite a few Mac tools when I worked as an auto mechanic. These wrenches are nice looking and I like the case layout. It's compact so it fits nicely in a portable tool kit or spread out it doesn't take up a lot of space in a drawer. As was the case with the old raised panel wrenches, these wrenches too are on the short side. I consider them to be standard length. I have 3 sets of combination wrenches. Long pattern, standard and stubby to fit different situations. The USAG version is more of a long pattern and less expensive than the Mac. I wish SB&D would do a better job with availability of the V Series. Neither my local Ace Hardware or Lowe's carry the V Series. Warranty is another issue as you can't just walk into Ace or Lowe's and exchange them. It has to be done on line.
All valid points. Yes they are shorter and would be more standard length. Keep your eyes peeled for my next wrench video. You might see USAG pop back up. 👍🏻
I’ve found you can order them in at Lowe’s
@@gtcam723 correct 👍🏻
I got this set a few weeks ago when it was on sale. I was deciding between this and MAC ratcheting flex version but that has been out of stock lately.
@@nonolabs it’s a quality set. 👍🏻
I have been disappointed in the new Craftsman tools that are made in China. These wrenches made in Taiwan look great and I would definitely purchase those. Thanks for the review.
Their Overdrive wrenches are also really really good. Look at the last Torque Test Channel video on combination wrenches.
Yes these are much better than what they sell in your local Lowe’s. I would consider these professional grade. 👍🏻
The Mac though would be the Precision Torque with the mild anti slip design (not to be confused with the RBRT) at least as far as I know.
I just wish the SAE would drop in price lol
Also, I’m envious that you presently have time to wrench 😂 between work, my channel, and the garage project I might get to wrenching again this winter.
Correct. I caught that in my editing so hopefully you saw that.
SAE will drop again shortly so don’t worry.
It’s a tough balance for sure. However my focus is YT second behind my day job. 👍🏻
@@ThingsMen that’s pretty much me too right now. May well be on strike by the end of this upcoming week so, may have more free time soon. But yeah. Work, YT, Shop, other stuff. In that order.
The overdrive set is basically the rbrt mac set.
@@dr_tal I would agree in its technology but the design and quality isn’t the same.
They are really nice wrenches, especially for the price, but they are just to short for most automotive applications. I'm in love with the carrying case though!! I wish every wrench set came in a holder like that. Overall, its a really nice wrench set, but just too short. I have the usag 285X and the facom XXL sets. $40 is a steal though!
@@victorhoyt4352 yes they are a very a well crafted professional set. Their crutch is their length but honestly for basic automotive work and maintenance these are perfect. I’ll be doing a follow up vid on USAG very soon. 😉
One more wrench! Just one more! and Craftsman could finally claim a no-skip tool set. Whyyy!? lol
@@cblack1863 🤣 so close right!? At least it was the 9mm.
USAG makes a set too...pretty much the same as the MAC Precision Torque..those Craftsman V-series are more like long Facom 440 wrenches because the open end is smooth jaws..USAG has the same jaws as MAC Precision Torque wrenches..
You are correct. Stay tuned for an upcoming video. You might see some USAG stuff.. 😉
I bought myself the ratcheting set of metric wrenches. They’re good, but the i beam design feels strange in my hand. I’ll get used to em
I like the ratcheting set as well. I’ll review those soon but a little bit later as they are also a nice set. 👍🏻
There is a Facom metric only set available in the UK with the same case.
Yes the craftsman is a direct copy of that.
I would buy them just for the case.
I wouldn’t blame you. It’s one of the best compact carrying cases currently. 👍🏻
So, you can buy a case by itself, just not the Craftsman branded one. I’ll have a video up about that sometime this weekend.
@@gtcam723 yes the USAB one. It’s not exactly as nice though.
@@ThingsMen i have to look closer but it sure looks the same excepting the colors. Now the awful version is the one they use for the two styles black chrome wrenches. THOSE holders are just terrible comparatively.
That red is striking.
Did you get the 6 point variation as well ? those are the ones I want
@@Jeff-rk8hq 12 point.
These would be awesome of craftsman would've made these in long pattern sets or atleast a long double box end set.
@@hemi08911 hang tight. In a round about way they did. I have a follow up video coming so stay tuned. 👍🏻
Not on sale on either site they went off as of last night.
Thanks for the heads up. They change all the time. Keep in your cart and wait. 👍🏻
theyre shorter than the macs, dont have the anti slip design and are slightly thinner. probably the best budget wrenches but definitely not quite the mac. i also bought the ratcheting style and the skips are atrocious but i like them more than gearwrench's style
@@shaunclancey1107 correct. I’ll have a follow up video detailing that and more this weekend. Stay tuned. 😉
i have the new milwaukee set and looks like a copy
They are not the same. Not similar either. I have the Milwaukees as well.
Where is craftsman tools made today
Mostly asian and some European imports
Correct. Mostly China or Taiwan. They had some USA products as well again but those may now be gone.
The price is $80 not $40
Sale mush have ended. Keep them in your cart and keep an eye on them. 👍🏻